1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Show Wednesday edition of the program. Senator Ran Paul will 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: join us on the bottom of the program here at 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, about one thirty five on 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the East Coast, and we may have some fireworks coming 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: out of that. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: We have got a bunch of. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Different storylines that are worth paying attention to. But Buck, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to start there. Seems to be I know 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: we haven't talked much about Iran lately, but meaning in 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the first hour, we've talked a lot about Iran over 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. The degree to which Israel 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: has infiltrated the top echelon of the Iranian leadership. They 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: took out another couple of guys overnight. Not a good 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: time to be an Iranian leadership. And Buck, did. 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: You see this story? 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I read this as a New York Times that top 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Masad agents are now calling Iranian leaders and saying we 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: know who you are, we know where you are, and 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: we will kill you if you do not immediately stop 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: supporting this government. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: And they are now able to. 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what that's like with everything 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: going on, to have your phone ring pick it up, 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: and it's a Masad agent and he's saying, hey, just 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: want you to know we know exactly where you are, 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: and we are willing and able to take you out. 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: And I saw, and I was reading in the Wall 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Street Journal this and I thought you would appreciate this, 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the degree to which Israel is able to now target individuals. 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: One of the guys was killed sleeping in a tent 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: in a park where he thought he could not be found, 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and they were able here. Sorry, I said, is the 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: New York Times. Here is the quote from the Wall 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Street Journal front page story. The journal reviewed the contents 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: of one call between a senior Iranian police commander and 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: an agent of the Masad. Can you hear me? A 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Masad agent can be heard speaking in FARSI. We know 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: everything about you. You are on our blacklist and we 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: have all the information about you. Okay, The commander said 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: in the recording, I called to warn you in advance 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: that you should stand with your people's side, and if 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you do, you will and if you will not do that, 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: your destiny will be as your leader. 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: Do you hear me? 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: And then the man responds, brother, I swear on the 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Qur'an I'm not your enemy. 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm a dead man already. Just please come help us. 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think, just from an operational standpoint, 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: that Massad would be so embedded that they would be 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: able to be calling individuals and letting them know you're 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: next on our list. Impactful, non impactful? How do you 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: see this going? 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: Well, it shows how much they've mapped out the human 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: terrain even inside of Iran and have an understanding of 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: command and control, any ability to directly. It's one thing 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: to know who's in charge. It's another thing to say, oh, 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: you're in charge, whoop, not anymore? Who's up next? Yes, 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: that's a whole other level of capability in a battlefield situation. 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: And I think, will this be you know, I don't know. 61 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: I mean, this is where you get into. Do we 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: think that this will be enough to start to push 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: things toward a new future for the Iranian people? Clay? 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: I just I've seen this play out and now you 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: could say, well, look what happened in Egypt with the 66 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: Arab Spring. Although that didn't really turn out the way 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: everybody was home in some ways, it's possible that this 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: starts to have a domino effect it's hard, it's an 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: uphill battle. You still have a lot of people that 70 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: are even lower, Like, here's the problem. How far down 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: the chain of command do you have ideological hardliners who 72 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: don't want an end to the conflict with Israel. I mean, 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: they obviously don't want to get bombed continuously, but you 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: know they want to continue the Islamic revolution that Komani began. 75 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: How many how deep does it go? I don't think 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: anybody has a really good answer to that. You know, remember, 77 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: this is a country that we haven't had the kind 78 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: of day to day interaction and news coverage with you 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: have in a lot of other places. Our insights into 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: Iran are always limited by the fact that it's a 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: totalitarian molocracy, a dictatorship of sorts, and we don't have 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: open access to what's going on, and we haven't for 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: what's the matter forty something years. So that's where it 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: is right now. I think with the Israelis, a lot 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: of this is also they know people that were involved 86 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: in very bad stuff against Israel. They know who was 87 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: making sure that Hezbollah was trying to kidnap or kill Israelis. 88 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: They know who was working with jimas I mean, they 89 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: have a pretty good sense of all of that, and 90 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: it's score settling time for a lot of them after 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: a long time. 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Here's the other part of that article that I wanted 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to hit you with because I did think it was interesting. 94 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Israel. 95 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: They say this is according to the Wall Street Journal, 96 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: got a tip from ordinary Iranians. They're saying, I don't 97 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: know if this is just disinformation or designed to make 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: people even more nervous, that Iranians are now calling in 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: location of people in the country to get taken out. 100 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: But the guy's name Sola Miane Solamani. I don't know 101 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: if he's related to the guy that we took out before. 102 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: They say, I'm reading was holding up with his deputy. 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: He's in a tent in a wooded area in Tehran, 104 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: and they've now taken out so many of the physical 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: locations that the guys have gotten nervous about being in 106 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: any sort of intelligence building, right because there's been so 107 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: many of these taken out. Guys hiding out in a 108 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: tent in a park in Iran with his subordinates. They 109 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: took them all out, so he thought, Hey, maybe I 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: can just hide out in this tent. Presumably he's trying 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: to avoid all detection, and they were still able to 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: take him out. And every morning when I wake up, 113 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: I check the news and it feels like Iran has 114 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: had another leader taken out. To your point, I think 115 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: the challenge is how far down do you have to 116 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: go and how long does it take? Right, Because if 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: let's say, you have to knock out the first three 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: hundred people on the list of commandos before you get 119 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to people who want to negotiate. I think the Iranian 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: perspective is America in particular is going to run out 121 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of interest in continuing this, and so you just kind 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: of have to hold on until the actual attacks end 123 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: up ending. Right, That's the I would imagine that's the 124 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: best strategy of the Iranians right now. 125 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: They're really hoping, I mean, the the IRGC and what's 126 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: there of the Iranian regime still in place to whatever 127 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: degree that's the case. They're just hoping that domestic political 128 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: pressure helps bring a faster end of this, as in 129 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Trump doesn't want to burn too much political capital and 130 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: so say all right, we've done it, We've done enough. 131 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: We've showed them whose boss so to speak? What is 132 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: oil now? Clay it just spiked up, right, We and 133 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: the Israelis hit a gas field in Iran. 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I think that's their. 135 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Entire goal at this point, is to make the price 136 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of oil and gas go up high enough that the 137 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: United States decides to pull back. I'm hitting it right now, 138 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars a barrel. It got up to one twenty. 139 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: The crude oil futures that I'm looking at right now 140 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: is up about a dollar fifty today at ninety seven dollars. 141 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: It's spiked to one twenty last week. Uh uh, and 142 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: so far it's around ninety seven. 143 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: It was a couple hours ago it was one hundred 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: and ten dollars, so according to the journal right now, 145 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: looking at so, I mean, it definitely has had a 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: bit of a run up. Wow. Can you imagine being 147 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 3: on an oil trading desk right now, you know, oil 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: futures and everything else. 149 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: No, every time there's a new tweet, every time there's 150 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: a new tweet, you're reacting to try to figure out 151 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: what the legitimacy of it. 152 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: Is, and and and all of all of those angles. 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: All right, we told you we would play this, So 154 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to update you on a ran that is 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: the latest that is going on there. Let me hit 156 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: you with this. This was center Mark Wayne Mullen on 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: this program. Let me make sure. I want to get 158 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: the date right. The team went and tracked it back down, 159 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: so we're. 160 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 3: Going to have grand throw something out there while you're 161 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: looking this up. I just want everyone to know we're 162 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: as soon as Senator Mullin is through his confirmation hearing, 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: hopefully at that point he'll be DHS secretary, or we 164 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: believe he'll be DHS secretary. We'll invite him on the program, 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: want to hear about what his priorities will be. And 166 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: he's welcome to also respond to this Senator ran Paul situation. 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: Because we're having Senator ram Paul on today, so we're 168 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: this is a big public fight between two Republicans. They 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: both should be able to have their say. I think 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Senator ram Paul is going to be a no vote. 171 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: We'll ask him this. I think he's going to be 172 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: a no vote on Mark Wayne Mullen. 173 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't remember Senator Paul taking shots at Mark Wayne 174 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Mullen on this program. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but 175 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: this is for sure, Mark Wayne Mullen, this is back. 176 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: The team pulled this November seventeenth, twenty twenty five. I 177 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: remember this conversation vaguely. I'm actually interested to hear it 178 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: as well. Mark Wayne Mullen taking shots at Senator ran 179 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Paul over drug boat strikes again a few months ago, 180 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: three four months ago, cut thirty. 181 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to just pivot back for a second to 182 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: the drug boat strikes twenty one so far over eighty 183 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: people killed. Senator ram Paul, your Republican colleague, is very 184 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: against these. He has recently said things like color. 185 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: Rand as the Republican colleague is pretty loose slipped. 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: He is a Republican colleague. You know, we can talk 187 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: about how you feel about that, but he definitely is 188 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: a Republican senator. So what do you think about the 189 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: concerns about legality when it comes to these strikes. 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: That's well within his constitutional authority to do so. And 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: so for Ran Paul to quote that, what I always 192 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: say is say, okay, give me in the constitution where 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: it's not in his authority to do that. Pull out 194 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: the part that ram Paul is talking about. But this 195 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: is the same Ram Paul that it doesn't vote with Republicans. 196 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: Jophen government. He just recently was trying to support his 197 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: plan to THFC levels for consumption in drinks because he 198 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: thought it was good for Kentucky's not joking, good for 199 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: Kentucky's industry, for himp industry. This is the same Ram 200 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: Paul that is constantly looking for an opportunity to run 201 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: against the President of the United States, and so he's 202 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: looking for an opportunity anytime he can to distance himself. 203 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: I would be a lot better off if ram Paul 204 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: just called himself what he is. He's a libertarian. I'm 205 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: perfectly okay with that. But he can't get elected as 206 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: a libertarian in Kentucky, so he decides to run as 207 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: a Republican. You know, I have more respect for Thomas 208 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: Massey than I do Ram Paul, because at least Thomas 209 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: masseew owns who he is. Ram Paul is just whoever 210 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: he feels like to be that day. 211 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: So this is again, Buck, I think he nailed it. 212 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: This is not a political disagreement at this point, it's personal. 213 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: So there have been fireworks from the DHS confirmation hearings, 214 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Ram Paul. We played you cuts from that, and Senator 215 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Paul will be with us at the bottom of the 216 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: hour and we'll hear from him what he wants, what 217 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: he wants to say, how he wants to respond, and 218 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: all of you guys can judge that as well. We're 219 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: just talking about the situation that is going on right 220 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: now in the Middle East, in Israel and Iran everywhere, 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: and our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and 222 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Jews make a tremendous difference when it comes to helping 223 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: people in their time of need, whether it's building new 224 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: bomb shelters, whether it is setting up food banks, whether 225 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: it is even putting a hospital in a parking garage 226 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: beneath the beneath the hospital itself to protect everyone, all 227 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: of the patients, from the dangers of missiles that might arrive. 228 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: All of these things are tremendously important. They have to 229 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: do with just protecting the innocent, in particular all over Israel, 230 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: and it's what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does. 231 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: We would like for you to join us as well. 232 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I've seen the work that these individuals do. It is fantastic, 233 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: it is phenomenal, it is truly life changing for so 234 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: many people there. And if you have the opportunity, we 235 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: would love for you to join us and help support 236 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: the IFCJ. At IFCJ dot org. I know the organization. 237 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I know the work that they're doing. Eight eight eight 238 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: four eight eight if CJ that is IFCJ dot org 239 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: one more time, IFCJ dot org. 240 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: You don't know what you don't know, right, but you should. 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: On the Sunday Hang with Play and Buck podcast. 242 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay in Buck. We're supposed to have 243 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: Senator Rampaul joining us in a few moments, and I 244 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: think a lot of you are going to want to 245 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: hear it because things got very testy. Let's be honest, 246 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: things got a bit personal up on Capitol Hill on 247 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: the in the hearing for DHS Secretary nominee Senator Mark 248 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: Wayne Mullen. So we will hear from the other senator, 249 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: Senator Paul about where he stands on all this. I 250 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: also think depends on how much time we have. We 251 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: can talk to him a bit about the Save America Act, 252 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 3: which in a lot of you have questions or thoughts 253 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: on I should say more thoughts than questions like why 254 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: the heck aren't they passing this? Clay and I are 255 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: not senators, so we can't vote for it, but doesn't 256 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: look like it's going to happen for a whole range 257 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: of reasons we've discussed on the show. Let's get to 258 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: some of your thoughts here. Let's start with be Kenneth 259 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: from Melbourne, Florida, hit Bee. 260 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: One question I'd like to ask Rand Paul is why 261 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: did he decide to go soft on this guy after 262 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: he about killed him? 263 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: I mean, quickly not. 264 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 5: Pressing charges, never heard anything about it anymore. You know, 265 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: we're all supporting you, Rand Paul, and we want to 266 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: see this guy prosecuted for assault, and you weren't having it. 267 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: Why does that have to look up? 268 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: I thought that there was a prosecution and the guy 269 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: got punished. 270 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was charged by authorities and convicted for the 271 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen attack. Rand didn't press charges himself, but he 272 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: expressed satisfaction with the felony conviction and jail time that 273 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: the individual served. But he only served thirty days in jail, 274 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: so I mean, you know he was the guy was 275 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: was probably felony, went to prison. I had to pay 276 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: Rand Paul five hundred and eighty thousand dollars in damages. 277 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I don't think it's a 278 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: fair line of criticisms to say Ran Paul didn't you 279 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: know what going to go after and he had to pay. 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: What else is supposed to happen? 281 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 282 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: I think he should have got more time in prison 283 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: personally for an assault like that. I agree, I think 284 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, look, it's funny, actually, Clay, I was even 285 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: texting with a friend of mine yesterday who was a 286 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: long time violent violent felony prosecutor in New York just 287 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: attorney's office there. I was asking him about something that 288 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: happened where guy punched a guy. We didn't talk about 289 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: this fifty five year old who likened a fifty five 290 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: year old fell and died, hit his head. And in 291 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: these things they get very into the specific facts like 292 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: was it completely unprovoked? Did they square off? Did the 293 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: guy raise his hands? Did the other guy raise his hands? 294 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: Was it a sucker punch? Did he you know? Is 295 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: it a senior citizen? And all these things come into 296 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: the equation because people, a lot of people who have 297 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: never been involved in physical violence don't realize first of all, 298 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: how ugly it gets quickly, and also how it can 299 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: escalate into something very dangerous. Even more so than either 300 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: party wants it to. I had a friend who was 301 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: in college and someone that he knew got punched on stairs, 302 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: fell back, hit his head, slipped into a coma and died. Oh, 303 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: so that stuff can happen. 304 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: When I was in college, the kid's in Georgetown got 305 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: into a fight Georgetown. One kid punched the other. When 306 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: he fell, he yet his head and he died. It 307 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: was a huge story when I was an undergrad. You know, 308 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: there's a when you're a lawyer, young lawyer, just you 309 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: study a case. It's basically like the thin skuld Plainiff case. 310 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: And for those of you out there that probably have 311 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: not heard of this case, one of the things that 312 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: they examine is to what extent are you libel when 313 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: someone has a unique physical condition which you didn't know about. 314 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: This thin skuld Plainiff, my recollection died because of it 315 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: what should not have been a death blow. But to 316 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: the point you're making buck, when you strike someone, you 317 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: don't really know what the overall outcome is going to be, 318 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: and the outcome can be deadly, even for things you 319 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: don't think are particularly deadly in nature. 320 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ran Paul almost died from that attack on him, 321 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: and that is established by the medical record. So these 322 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: are you know, this is these are the facts of 323 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: that of that case. But he did bring it so 324 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: rather they did bring felony charges and the person was convicted. 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Based on the questions, it doesn't sound like 353 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: you're going to be voting for him to. 354 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Be head of DHS. And if is that true? 355 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: And if so, why will you be voting against him? 356 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 6: You know, I guess I'm concerned about anger issues someone 357 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: leading ice and border patrol issues that basically advocated and 358 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 6: celebrated the violence that was committed about me. I was 359 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 6: attacked from behind several years ago, six rigs broken, three 360 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 6: of them separated, completely damaged my long multiple pneumonia's had 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: part of my long remove nearly a year year and 362 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 6: a half later, And I guess I don't think that's funny. 363 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 6: I also don't think that that's something to be celebrated. 364 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: And I wonder if someone thinks that that is to 365 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 6: be applauded, should they really be in charge of ICE 366 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 6: and CVP, who I think they need a better role model, 367 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 6: also has a history of brawling. I mean he got 368 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 6: up to them a committee hearing, threatened someone who was testifying, 369 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: said he would jump over the table and follow up interviews, 370 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 6: he said, yeah, people just deserve to me sometimes be 371 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: punched in the mouth. He said, well, yeah, there's a 372 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 6: historical precedent for this. You know, we had dueling and 373 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 6: we've had canings, and so I asked him that today 374 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 6: and he said, oh, yeah, we've had duelings. And I said, 375 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 6: when you realize it was still llegal one hundred and 376 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 6: seventy years ago. It's certainly illegal now, but it was 377 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: illegal even back then and frowned upon, and people actually 378 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 6: had to travel either to other states or countries to 379 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 6: do dueling because we dis approved of it. Even one 380 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: hundred and seventy years ago. But the fact that he 381 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 6: would still think that we should settle our political differences 382 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 6: through violence, I think makes him really unfit to hold 383 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 6: anything a position like this. So I will vote against. 384 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: Him, Senator Paul. Just to be clear, because we played 385 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: some of the back and forth audio, Senator Mullen has 386 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: never apologized for what he said. Is that correct? That 387 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: has never happened. 388 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: He called me in one discussion and he said, well, 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 6: he said what he said today. I hope we get 390 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 6: aside our political differences. Well, our political differences are you know, 391 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: we disagree on funding refugee welfare. I'm against giving any 392 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 6: more money for refugee welfare. I would end the programs. 393 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 6: He's for it. That's a political difference. But if I 394 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: say that I wish harm on his family or I 395 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 6: wish harm on him, that's not a political difference. That's 396 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 6: an advocation for violence. And Franks, I've been on the 397 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: receiving end of violence, and I just don't think it's 398 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: good for our country and it's not a good example 399 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 6: for somebody who leads law enforcement where there's been some 400 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: questions about the use of force. And so no, he's 401 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 6: never apologized. He was given a chance today, I think 402 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 6: a normal person would have taken that chance and apologized 403 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 6: and said. He continued to this bizarre rat that somehow, 404 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: when he was an House of Representatives he told this 405 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 6: to my face because he's, you know, such a macho guy. 406 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 6: I don't think I ever met the guy when he 407 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 6: was mouse. I don't remember ever meeting with him, and 408 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 6: I certainly would remember if someone walked up to me 409 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 6: and told me that I deserved to be bushwhacked, you know, 410 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 6: in my yard. So no, I never I'd never met 411 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 6: him before he got to the Senate, and he's never 412 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 6: set it to my face. But it's interesting what he 413 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 6: took umbrage with. He took umbrage with the fact that 414 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 6: I called him a liar, but he didn't never come 415 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 6: out and say, oh, yeah, you know, I was angry 416 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 6: about this vote, and you know, in retrospect, maybe I 417 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 6: shouldn't have. You know, thought that it was a great 418 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: idea that this violence was committed against you. But it's 419 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 6: that it's his brawling and Senate committees, it's his referring 420 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 6: to dueling and caning. I asked him if he knew 421 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 6: who Charles Sumner was. I don't think he does. But 422 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 6: Charles Sumner was caned nearly to death. He was came 423 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: till he was unconscious. And the reason that that it 424 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: kept going is one of the Preston Book's colleagues in 425 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 6: South Carolina came over with a gun and he kept 426 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: the others. I always wondered, you know why the senator's 427 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 6: not intervened. The reason they didn't intervene help him. He 428 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 6: was unconscious, bleeding from the mouth, fleeting from his ears, 429 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 6: his skull being crushed by this guy with the cane, 430 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: and nobody helps him. But it's because another thug friend 431 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: of Preston Brooks was holding a gun to the senators, 432 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 6: keeping them at bay. So, but he brings us up 433 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: as a justification. He brought it up again today. He says, well, yeah, 434 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: there is dueling, and I said, well, yeah, it's been 435 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: illegal for one hundred and seventy years, including at the 436 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 6: time even when they had dueling in the eighteenth early 437 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 6: nineteenth century, most time it was illegal, and most time 438 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: they went to some kind of venue to escape being 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: caught doing doing because it wasn't approved of by most people. 440 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: Senator Paul, can I ask you, do you have any 441 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: sense that there are any other Republicans who have serious 442 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: concerns about this confirmation of the DHS secretary, or is 443 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: it your sense that you stand alone among Republicans on this. 444 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 6: Probably in the committee, I will be the only one, 445 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 6: you know. Frankly, I suffered for a year or two 446 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: with this had part of my lunger move, so I 447 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: do take it kind of personally. I do think though 448 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 6: it's more of a generalized problem because I think his 449 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: resorting to fists and his idea that people sometimes just 450 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: deserve to be punched in the face. I think that 451 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 6: kind of attitude would worry me where we you know, 452 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: this is what we had with Bovino. When Bovino was 453 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 6: up there in Minneapolis. It was a disaster because he's 454 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 6: marching around with the bulletproof vest, brandishing his weapons and 455 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: showing how Tafias and everybody got this sort of macho 456 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: complex up there. Tom Holman, who's not a shrinking violet, 457 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: went to it and said if any agents misbehaved, they'll 458 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: be punished, and he started pulling people off the street 459 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 6: so they weren't in public confrontation every day. You really 460 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: haven't seen it in the news, and that's sort of 461 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: what good leadership would be. But I don't know what 462 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 6: kind of leadership you get from a guy who advocates 463 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: fighting in a you know, in the middle of the 464 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 6: Senate hearing. 465 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: Why home in the DHS secretary By the way, that's 466 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: a whole other. 467 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean, I think that's an interesting question, 468 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul with us right now talking about the Mark 469 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen hearing and his potential taking over the DHS. 470 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Many people in this audience, I guarantee you, Senator Paul, 471 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you're going to hear it from the 472 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: people you represent in Kentucky will say Democrats are wrong 473 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: on so much? Why fight internally here over who the 474 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: president wants as DHS secretary? How would you respond to 475 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: that question or that criticism? 476 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: You know, I've supported virtually all the nominees. Christy nom 477 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 6: came forward. I did hers in record time, even though 478 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 6: Mullen I don't think, don't like, and don't think he's fit, 479 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 6: and really I think he's just a person. But I've 480 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 6: gotten this nominee done quicker than any other nominee's ever 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 6: gotten it. So I'm giving him fair treatment and sense 482 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 6: that he got a hearing in less than two weeks. 483 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: He's going to get the vote tomorrow and then all 484 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: Likelihod will be approved. But the thing is is, you know, 485 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 6: if this, if this were you, I mean, do you 486 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 6: have uh you know it, would it be your conclusion 487 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 6: to say, well, yeah, he did say the assault, I 488 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 6: mean it was justified. I'll just kind of let that go, 489 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: not say anything about it. Well, I don't think there 490 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 6: are many people that would let it go. I'm kind 491 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 6: of actually surprised that more people don't see the glorification 492 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 6: of violence as a real danger to having someone lead 493 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: ice who really thinks resorting to fist is the way 494 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 6: we hear this real. You know, if this is a 495 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: badening way to do it, we used to do it 496 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 6: the right way, with dueling and gaining. And you know, 497 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 6: when I first read the story of Charles Summer, I 498 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 6: was horrified by it. 499 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 5: I wasn't. 500 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 6: I never never crossed my mind that these were the 501 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 6: good old days, These were the days when men were 502 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 6: men and they you know, cross each other's skull with sticks. 503 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 6: I don't know, that never would cross my mind. But 504 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 6: that apparently is his point of view, and even when 505 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 6: confronted with it, both privately and in public. He refuses 506 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 6: to apologize, doesn't back down, and says basically, yeah, he's 507 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: it's completely understandable that I was attacked from behind. You know, 508 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 6: six ribs, broken lung damage, multiple pneumonias, part of my 509 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: lung removed. I don't know. I don't get that. I 510 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 6: guess I'm not willing just to say, oh, let's let 511 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 6: bygones be bygones. You know we're all adults here. Well, 512 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 6: if you want let bygones be bygones, you might start 513 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 6: with an apology for what he said. 514 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: What happened to your attacker? 515 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: We had a couple of people asking us, and Buck 516 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: and I did a quick research. 517 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: We're live on the air. 518 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, was he severely punished to what 519 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: you thought he should have been that level? 520 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: Or what was the result of that case. 521 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 6: Initially, they all the judges in Kentucky recused themselves, which 522 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: created a problem because then they have to look for 523 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 6: a judge. They found one in Detroit who came down 524 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 6: and prejudged the case and gave the guy thirty days. 525 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: The government appealed it and went to the sixth Circuit. 526 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 6: And this doesn't happen very often appealing a criminal ruling 527 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: of a judge because it was outside the sentencing parameters 528 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 6: and didn't meet the minimum, and they came back and 529 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: gave him another ten months, so he served about a year. 530 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: He lost the civil suit. He's a convicted felon, hopefully 531 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 6: as not voting anywhere in the country anymore, and hopefully 532 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: has received some punishment for this. But you know, it 533 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 6: was misreported from the very beginning, and everybody's, oh, yeah, 534 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: just a dispute which we had never talked to the guy. 535 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 6: I mean I talked to maybe ten or fifteen years 536 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 6: before we're gone. A lot our kids used to carpool, 537 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 6: but there was no personal animus that I knew of 538 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: between the guy other than that I learned that he 539 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 6: was the hater of Donald Trump and a hater of 540 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 6: me politically when we looked at his online presence, But 541 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: wasn't like we'd ever had words. Really, I don't know. 542 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: Those who think it's either funny or should be justified, 543 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 6: I think are sick people. 544 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: Franklin Senator Ran Paul with us now and Senator if 545 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: I could. I mean, I think we've covered pretty and 546 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: pretty good detail here what happened today in your exchange 547 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: with Mark Wayne Mullen. We are in the midst of 548 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: what we have been telling everybody is a war and 549 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: thousands of people are dying, and it is a big deal. 550 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 3: I know there's been a little back and forth on 551 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: what we should call this, and it's you know, there 552 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: seems to be a little bit of a minimization feeling 553 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: around it in some quarters my senses, and this is 554 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm speaking for myself, and Clayton can weigh in with 555 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: his sense. This is just going to end sometime in 556 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks and we're going to say 557 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: mission accomplished with having destroyed the Iranian military. What do 558 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: you make of all of this? I mean, I know 559 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: you're not for it, but what's the goal here as 560 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: you see it? And what are the lessons that we're 561 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: learning as we go? 562 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the sooner it's over the batter war 563 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: really isn't good for you know, us as a people, 564 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 6: not good for those who die, and really it needs 565 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 6: to be the last resort, not the first resort. I 566 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: think this war was a war of choice, and I 567 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: didn't agree with the choice. Now, whether they call it 568 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 6: a war or not sounds legalistic but it's a way 569 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 6: of getting around the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress 570 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: initiates war or declares war. Now, the President's Legal COUNTIL, 571 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 6: the Office of Legal Council, argues that you'll will tell 572 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: you when it's a war, but we have to wait 573 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: a while and we'll add up the casualties. We have 574 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: to know the duration, the extent, and the scope of 575 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: the war to tell whether it's a war or not. 576 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 6: And I guess the problem with that kind of argument 577 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 6: is that if Congress is supposed to initiate or declare war, 578 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 6: but you can't tell whether it's really war until a 579 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: number of dead, you know, it would be sort of 580 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 6: Congress coming after the fact and then declaring war after 581 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 6: the war's over. You know, with the Iraq War, we 582 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 6: declared war in advance. We didn't know how many would die, 583 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 6: but we ended up I think losing about forty four 584 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 6: hundred soldiers and maybe ten or twenty thousands significantly wounded. 585 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 6: But we did actually authorize it. You know, I have 586 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: some complaints with George W. Bush, but he came to Congress, 587 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 6: made the case, and they authorized it, and the same 588 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 6: thing after nine to eleven. And I would have voted 589 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 6: for the nine to eleven you know the response after 590 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: nine to eleven, because we were attacked, that's when we really, 591 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 6: you know, should have a war. But I don't think 592 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: we've done it in a constitutional way. I think in 593 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 6: the end it's it's really this isn't the primary reason 594 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 6: to oppose it, But I think it's also going to 595 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: be very, very damaging for the Republican ability to hold 596 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 6: on to either House or Senate in the fall because 597 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 6: of the economic repercussions. I think oil prices go up quickly. 598 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: I think they're sticky on the way down, and as 599 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: more infrastructures damaged over there, as the people are having 600 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 6: more trouble getting shipped through because of insurance and danger, 601 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 6: I don't think that quickly resolves itself. So even if 602 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 6: the war ended in a week or two, I think 603 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 6: you could still have pricing increases that could last well 604 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: into the election. 605 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: Last question for you. 606 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: This is a VIP email and I'm going to read 607 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: it from one of our listeners. 608 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: Matt. 609 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: You probably have heard of this quite a lot. Eighty 610 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: percent of all Americans support voter ID. I'll be extremely 611 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: pissed off and deflated if the save Act fails, especially 612 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: if it fails due to GOP and fighting. I think 613 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: the country is doomed if we can't get voter ID passed. 614 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: That's a VIP email from Matt, one of our listeners. 615 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: What's going to happen with the Save Act? What should 616 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: happen in your mind? 617 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: You know, I'm for it, I'm a co sponsor of it. 618 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 6: Voted yesterday to get on it. We got on it 619 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 6: with fifty one votes. I am told my leadership there 620 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 6: are not fifty one votes to perpetually stay on it. 621 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: You know, the whole idea of the talking filibuster, but 622 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 6: there aren't fifty one votes to do that. I'm also 623 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 6: told that one of the sticking points of doing citizenship 624 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: park that you might get fifty three of us. You 625 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: might even get a Democrat or to if adjusted citizenship 626 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 6: when it adds in the mail balloting forbidding mail or 627 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 6: discouraging mail balloting, which I am for, I think that's 628 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: really almost as important as the citizenship part, because I 629 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: can people cheat through the mail in balloting more than 630 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 6: any other form of voting. But the problem is that 631 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: you have these Western states, I mean, Utah has everybody 632 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: gets a ballot in the mail. They may get multiple ballots. 633 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: Arizona's the same way, and they've had Republican legislators out there, 634 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 6: but they haven't anything about it because frankly, Republicans out 635 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 6: there like mail in balloting, the same with their same 636 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 6: with Oklahoma, I mean not Oklahoma, Alaska. And so while 637 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 6: I am you know, in my state, I helped, you know, 638 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 6: get the state legislature, encourage them to pass. And almost 639 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 6: everybody votes in person. It's like ninety eight percent. It's 640 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: of sellony. If you lie you're reasons for a need 641 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 6: to vote by mail. It's almost everybody votes in person. 642 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 6: We have paper ballots. We keep the paper ballots, and 643 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 6: I think they have pretty secure elections. We have we 644 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 6: have IDs to be shown. So some states do it. 645 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: So now there's about five Republican states that don't. So well, 646 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: I voted for the national and we'll continue to support 647 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 6: the national pollution ability we ought to have as a 648 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 6: party goal getting the five or six Republican states that 649 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 6: do mail in balloting, convincing them at the state level 650 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 6: not to do it. 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I also would like 687 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: to talk about, Clay, if we can make time for today. 688 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: The amount of money that's spent by New York City 689 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: on homeless Yeah, this is a crazy vigualat I. I mean, 690 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: we're at the point now where some of these bureaucracies, 691 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: these nonprofits that are funded with taxpayer dollars would be 692 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: so much we'd be so much better off just giving 693 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars, which is what the number is to 694 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: people who are homeless every year. Yeah, So then people 695 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 3: who are working hard for eighty thousand dollars would say, 696 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: wait a second, often more than less than eighty thousand dollars, right, 697 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: let's w Yeah, we're I mean, people who are working 698 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: hard for fifty grand are saying, hold on a second, 699 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna give homeless you know, addicts eighty grand. Well, no, 700 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: we're not giving homeless addicts eighty grand. We're spending eighty 701 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: thousand dollars per homeless addict and they're not stopping the homelessness. 702 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: What the heck is going on? So I think that's 703 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: an important story to get into New York. It's elsewhere 704 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: as well, And we'll take your thoughts on the Rand Paul. Look, 705 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: it's a feud, Rand Paul, Mark Waynemulan, let's call it 706 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: what it is. Where do you come down on that one? 707 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: Talk backs, emails, light us up, be right back to 708 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: you