Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. What's up, Good Wednesday to you. Welcome
Speaker 1: into Talking Cowboys inside the s WBC Mortgage Studio. I
Speaker 1: am Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones. Brian broad Us
Speaker 1: as always across the table from me. Hello, Hello, Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola's my right, Good morning, Kit Garrison the Garrison next
Speaker 1: door producing as always. Hi Ken Audi, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: he's out there, Yes, gig him and welcome back to practice,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. It's a regular week for once, although that's
Speaker 1: gonna change next to change, not for long. It's gonna
Speaker 1: change for a couple of weeks with Thanksgiving coming up
Speaker 1: and then another Thursday game after that. But normal Wednesday
Speaker 1: practice getting set for the Atlanta Falcons, a noon kickoff
Speaker 1: in Atlanta this Sunday outdoors and the Frozen Tundrum today. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: looks like they're set up for that. Huh. Soun's out surprise,
Speaker 1: he's practicing outside today. I was they playing indoors. I
Speaker 1: was a little disappointed that he was sall water bottles
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, why
Speaker 1: do you think he's doing that. It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and but he's he's practiced indoors before, you know, this year. So,
Speaker 1: but I just with an with an indoor game this weekend.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of wondering why he would because
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is this guys are gonna bundle up
Speaker 1: and they're probably not gonna bundle up during the game.
Speaker 1: So you kind of wonder, you know, if you were
Speaker 1: if you were to play indoors, maybe you could be
Speaker 1: a little bit more how you're gonna dress for a game.
Speaker 1: Just my thought there, they'll probably be inside Thursday and Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as is their custom. He'll say it's a beautiful day,
Speaker 1: and he's not wrong. It's a beautiful day. Hey, any
Speaker 1: you know, any day to you practice football outside and
Speaker 1: it's not one hundred and five degrees, you know, why not?
Speaker 1: But I know it just kind of it's a little
Speaker 1: it's something a little bit different to think about. It's football, right,
Speaker 1: Rob gotta play in the elements. That's right, he's gonna
Speaker 1: They're not gonna play in the elements, though, they're gonna
Speaker 1: practice in the elements. Is it? Is it a toughness thing? Hey,
Speaker 1: it's thirty degrees, but we're you know, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: go run inside. Well, I can understand it. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play getting ready for the Giants, or
Speaker 1: if that Eagles game was later in the year, you know,
Speaker 1: or having to go to Washington again, something like that,
Speaker 1: I can get it. I just kind of like to
Speaker 1: I would practice in the conditions that I think that
Speaker 1: my team's gonna play in. That's just me. But he's
Speaker 1: a head coach. I'm not so that's fair. Uh. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from Jason Garrett AT's ten thirty five Central Time
Speaker 1: directly after this show. We don't know what the injury
Speaker 1: situation will be, but do you have an idea Mick
Speaker 1: of guys that might be limited or sitting out or
Speaker 1: coming back? Oh? I thought you had the release. I
Speaker 1: don't get the release. What happened? I was counting on
Speaker 1: you for that. I was gonna go for that. Huh.
Speaker 1: I never came came in last night. Not to my
Speaker 1: Oh the Atlanta released, I haven't seen it. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the deal? Okay, we got ours they're being secretives, you
Speaker 1: think so Yeah, either that or our departments not doing
Speaker 1: a very good job, or I didn't take the time
Speaker 1: to go like search for it. Uh injuries. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you expect from practice today? I don't think much
Speaker 1: changes from last week at all. I mean I haven't
Speaker 1: trying to think of who, Well, Taco is a guy?
Speaker 1: Who Taco would be a guy? We need to ask
Speaker 1: about Taco. I think that's the key one, because everything
Speaker 1: had to it was like a chess match moving guys
Speaker 1: around with him missing, right, I bet Connor needs another week,
Speaker 1: I think so well. I mean Randy Gregory missed two
Speaker 1: weeks with the scope he was I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was as bad as this. He didn't practice, You're right,
Speaker 1: he didn't practice for two weeks. Now he was a
Speaker 1: game time decision regardless, but right he did warm up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe so especially with another I mean same,
Speaker 1: everybody's not the same. And you know Williams was walking
Speaker 1: around I thought a lot better than Randy was after
Speaker 1: the first week. I can't imagine David. I mean we
Speaker 1: haven't seen David Irving, have we No, So I can't
Speaker 1: imagine he's it's kind of his career, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I did see him at lunch. I think you did. Yeah, boot,
Speaker 1: he's still in a boot. I think that was him
Speaker 1: off the scooter. Yeah, he was walking around, So that
Speaker 1: was him, which he's kind of hard to miss him.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was him. I was from distance,
Speaker 1: and I don't I mean, Sean Lee. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: he makes it till Thanksgiving, right, Yeah, you need to
Speaker 1: worry about the calf injury too with Ross, right, because
Speaker 1: that's a defensive tackle again, that causes you have to
Speaker 1: move guys around as well. Tyrone Crawford's just hey, play
Speaker 1: where he has to play. Yeah, that's I mean, he
Speaker 1: started a defensive end, then he had to move inside
Speaker 1: when Maliek Collins went down because Ross wasn't there either.
Speaker 1: By the fourth quarter, he was back at right end,
Speaker 1: and then he had to go back to right end
Speaker 1: because Collins came back right and DeMarcus Lawrence, who normally
Speaker 1: gets somewhat of a break, got no break. He played
Speaker 1: fifty six of fifty nine snaps and Armstrong had to
Speaker 1: go to the right side. Then, um, so, yeah, that
Speaker 1: his injury affected and I bet Randy Gregory and I
Speaker 1: know he played forty snaps. I bet that's a season high,
Speaker 1: and so that everybody got a little bit extended in
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. Best game he's played, you think, Randy Gregory, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he had a sack, but yeah, I know what else,
Speaker 1: just being active being around them. See, that's he's had
Speaker 1: some games. I think he had a four tackle game
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, or he had three tackles for
Speaker 1: loss or something like that. I'm trying to remember that
Speaker 1: game off the top of my head. In more limited
Speaker 1: snap but he didn't have the sacks, but he had
Speaker 1: he had a tackle for loss a few of them,
Speaker 1: and you know, so yeah, to me, I'm just I've
Speaker 1: always kind of been waiting for Randy Gregory. I've always
Speaker 1: you know, that's another one of those that I'm glad
Speaker 1: he's back. I'm glad he's got his life in order,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I hope he continues on the path
Speaker 1: he does. But maybe maybe I thought too much of
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, you know, maybe I thought too much of
Speaker 1: the ability and and uh, you know, and what he's
Speaker 1: done but again he's he's back. He you know, that's
Speaker 1: something that I never thought it would happen to begin with. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe some of it's that that Outliers book. You know,
Speaker 1: you got to have the time on task to be yeah,
Speaker 1: fulfilling your potential. I love the sack, you know, two years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the sack, But I mean I'd like to
Speaker 1: just see more. I'd like to see, you know, and
Speaker 1: if he plays forty plays, made me remember five of
Speaker 1: those plays, don't make me remember one, you know, so
Speaker 1: i'd have to say that, you know, to me, they
Speaker 1: need him out there though, I mean they need him
Speaker 1: as part of they need Taco out there too, as
Speaker 1: part of the rotation, because I don't to me, I
Speaker 1: think I think it affects I think it affects uh,
Speaker 1: Lawrence when Crawford's not inside, you know that they can
Speaker 1: team up together and get sacks, you know, the way
Speaker 1: they had the push and the and the and the
Speaker 1: twist stunts and things like that. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that that hurts That hurts Uh, That hurts Lawrence a
Speaker 1: little bit. You know. I don't know if I don't
Speaker 1: know if if the shoulder thing is really hurting him
Speaker 1: as he do you think, you guys, you think he's
Speaker 1: played as well. I mean, I'm not saying as well.
Speaker 1: I think he's played well, but I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: hasn't had the pressure of the sack, you know, with
Speaker 1: since we've kind of found out about this shoulder injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look at the Tennessee game where a lot of
Speaker 1: the pressure they got in the sacks they got were
Speaker 1: based off of his push, his push inside. I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure about this game. I think he's been pretty Yeah,
Speaker 1: the sacks aren't there as they were last year. I
Speaker 1: forget where he's at right now. Five and a half, Yeah, DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: he's six and a half, six and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: I still think he's been productive. And I think you
Speaker 1: spoke this the other day. He's he's relentless against the
Speaker 1: run and that doesn't always show up. That's incredible how
Speaker 1: he plays against the run. Yeah, that is incredible hype.
Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, when you start talking about
Speaker 1: paying complete guys, you know, and he say, oh, what
Speaker 1: does he do well? He plays to run and the pass.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you would pay that guy. They
Speaker 1: love his motor and he never takes a playoff, and
Speaker 1: I think it's Mickey said he almost played the whole
Speaker 1: game the other night. Usually that you know, his snaps
Speaker 1: are in the you know they worked fifty Yeah, they
Speaker 1: rest him during the week too to try and keep
Speaker 1: him fresh. He's got ten tackles for losses, leads to
Speaker 1: team in that category. Yes, really, And here's the perspective
Speaker 1: on it. The next guy with the most tackles for
Speaker 1: losses that Jalen Smith, was four. Yeah, so uh, he's
Speaker 1: done a heck of a job with that. Twenty seven
Speaker 1: total tackles, so that's the most by any of the
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. And six and a half sacks. Yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: quarterback pressures, by the way, which also leads the team.
Speaker 1: That's good. And Gregory second with thirteen. So he needs
Speaker 1: to just start cashing in. He needs to, yeah, finish
Speaker 1: a few of those. That's where I mean, Like I say,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great rush the other day
Speaker 1: that he had. You know, Jason pier did exactly what
Speaker 1: you have to do against Jason Peters. Take him out,
Speaker 1: take him outside and then bring him back and then
Speaker 1: you know you do that to him, you got a shot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would like to think that. Okay, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, have some have some stats, have a couple
Speaker 1: more tackles for loss, have a have a sack or
Speaker 1: two more. You know, those kinds of thing I think
Speaker 1: would would would help, you know me look at him
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then in that light, speaking of
Speaker 1: tackles for loss, did you see who won NFC Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Week. That was my next question because
Speaker 1: I checked it last night and wasn't up yet. Well,
Speaker 1: finally came out, tell us, no, I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't upland I'm guessing it was Layton vander Esh.
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh is the first Cowboys rookie since twenty ten
Speaker 1: to win that award, and that's, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty distinctive honor. That's the best player in the entire
Speaker 1: conference on the defensive side of the ball. According to
Speaker 1: Coach's film, nineteen tackles he was credited with. That's the
Speaker 1: most ever given to a Cowboys rookie defender. So the
Speaker 1: NFL Jesus site had him for thirteen for the game, right,
Speaker 1: so somewhere they found six more. They found assists. He
Speaker 1: had thirteen solo credited by thirteen solo and then that
Speaker 1: went to fifteen and then he had four assists. Okay,
Speaker 1: did you get to the bottom of how he got
Speaker 1: more tackles? Did they cheated him the week before? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's why the member I told you the table wasn't right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you thought maybe he got he really got twenty two, right,
Speaker 1: it was nineteen and there was three tackles the week
Speaker 1: before that. He didn't get credit for that. When they
Speaker 1: went over the coaches film, they filled in those. So
Speaker 1: so that's why the total didn't add up. Huh, he's
Speaker 1: it's amazing how he's played ninety six tackles already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing how he's played and that, you know, that
Speaker 1: is a it's a credit to him, it's a credit
Speaker 1: to the scouting staff. They you know, we talked about
Speaker 1: guys like Jason Witton and back in the day that
Speaker 1: you had a vision for what the player is. They
Speaker 1: obviously had a vision for what this guy. Was the
Speaker 1: rookie record for tackles in a single season Dexter Cokeley
Speaker 1: in ninety seven. He had one hundred and thirty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if he keeps playing the snaps, he's playing with
Speaker 1: seven more games to go. Yeah, he may get there.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need him to have every one of them too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the third most, which he'll probably get soon. Michael Downs
Speaker 1: and eighty one had one hundred and ten as a safety.
Speaker 1: Do you think was he their guy kind of all
Speaker 1: along in the pre draft process? I thought so. They
Speaker 1: identified him pretty early. It was I think we were
Speaker 1: having draft shows in March and I and I got
Speaker 1: to the point where I just said, they're taking vander Esh.
Speaker 1: It's just too much. I mean I remember you saying no,
Speaker 1: and I did it kind of in a in a
Speaker 1: flippant way, you know, just saying they're gonna take Vanderesh.
Speaker 1: And then the more you dug in, you know, it
Speaker 1: started adding up. You know, the visits and the pre
Speaker 1: draft visits and the workouts and you know, and him
Speaker 1: visiting at the Combine and all that, and you're just
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, Okay, where does Vanderesh fall on the
Speaker 1: board if you rank the guys of where they fell.
Speaker 1: Where they took him is right where a lot of
Speaker 1: people had him. And so to me it was, you know,
Speaker 1: it was pretty evident. I just think there were too
Speaker 1: many things pointing to him being the pick. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then but then the the over line thing was the
Speaker 1: thing with Sean Lee. You know that that that they
Speaker 1: just couldn't they couldn't be held hostage anymore with that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I love Sean Lee, but you know,
Speaker 1: playing playing ten games, playing eleven games every you know,
Speaker 1: you can't those six games. I mean there's a difference there.
Speaker 1: There's five or six, there's a difference there. You need
Speaker 1: him and you need somebody and I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: the fact, it's been a perfect combination for him because
Speaker 1: look what they've really done back to back with these linebackers.
Speaker 1: If you look at the last couple they've drafted with
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Jaylen Smith has played. You know, he
Speaker 1: didn't get enough credit for how well he played in
Speaker 1: that game. I know, Layton Vanderish made a rookie or
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the week, but oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: j Alen Smith was just as good. You know, coverage,
Speaker 1: coverage task well, I mean he was just you know,
Speaker 1: there there are things that the fourth down, the fourth
Speaker 1: and one play, who may that stop right there? I
Speaker 1: mean he's he's a pretty pretty special player as is.
Speaker 1: So if you were to and by the way, we
Speaker 1: got calls in camp wondering already is he was he
Speaker 1: a good pick? Is he a bust Vanderesh? Because of well,
Speaker 1: Brian makes a great point about Sean. They had to
Speaker 1: project the fact that injuries are a part of his history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of fans thought, well, maybe
Speaker 1: Vanderesh isn't gonna play a lot as a rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you need to, you know, you're trying to win. Now,
Speaker 1: can you find a guy that can help you? Well,
Speaker 1: especially when this team didn't have anybody at receiver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then all of a sudden and again
Speaker 1: you're gonna play against the guy last this next week
Speaker 1: or this week that you had a chance to to draft.
Speaker 1: So that's where the questions, and especially how fast Calvin
Speaker 1: Rudley started this year, you know. Yeah, and the fact
Speaker 1: that they didn't have a receiver. I think that's where
Speaker 1: the questions were coming from. Well, they told you what
Speaker 1: the plan was, no one wanted to believe it. Well,
Speaker 1: I think a play that we're going to have three
Speaker 1: linebackers to play two spots and not over extend anybody.
Speaker 1: And at that time, you still hadn't seen Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: and there was no assurance he was going to play
Speaker 1: the way he's playing right now. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: In April, yep, you still had to see it. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he blossomed by May
Speaker 1: and June and then worry about you know, and they
Speaker 1: started the scene. And remember he missed quite a bit
Speaker 1: of time in training camp, right, and the preseason games.
Speaker 1: I think he only played in one May. Yeah, the hamstringing,
Speaker 1: right growing yeah yeah, San Francisco. Yeh, tackle on the
Speaker 1: sideline because when we came back here for practice, when
Speaker 1: they carried camp over here, I don't think he took
Speaker 1: part in no thing here. And so you didn't see him.
Speaker 1: But did you notice in the first game he was
Speaker 1: out there and they started that little bit of rotation,
Speaker 1: not as much as they did the second, third, and
Speaker 1: fourth game, and they started doing it. Uh, and you know,
Speaker 1: unfortunately there's only I mean, you got to play Sean Lee, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and it gets hurt, but now it's paying off.
Speaker 1: You know, Sometimes you just gotta wait and not jump
Speaker 1: to instant conclusions like you got a microwave in your head. Answer.
Speaker 1: See if Mickey'll answer the question about our meant what
Speaker 1: our mailbag was about Jalen Smith. We had a question
Speaker 1: this morning. Go to Dallas Cowboys dot com to read
Speaker 1: me and Brian's answers. But Jalen Smith's progress. Do you
Speaker 1: get the feeling or have you been told that he
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent now coming off that knee injury
Speaker 1: from college? You know, I haven't asked since because it
Speaker 1: hasn't been an issue, right, right, That's kind of what
Speaker 1: we said. I mean, it would almost be scary if
Speaker 1: he's playing at ninety or ninety five. Mean, he's got
Speaker 1: five percent more of physical ability in him. I wrote
Speaker 1: it that way. I mean I still think there's things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, I bet it's not one hundred percent. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it is either. I think there's I
Speaker 1: think there's room for him to even be better. I
Speaker 1: really do. It's good enough that he has told us
Speaker 1: in the past. You know, he'll tell you he's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Well, he said that he's not. Watch him
Speaker 1: play it. I mean he was, he isn't. He was
Speaker 1: an unbelievable player at Notre and he's developing in you
Speaker 1: start to see those traits you saw it Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: the Combination Nation of the recognition with just that elite
Speaker 1: athleticism that he has for his size, you know, and
Speaker 1: we're seeing it, like some of the coverage that he's
Speaker 1: he's doing. His movements are better. I know, it's good
Speaker 1: enough that he's told us in the past. I'm not
Speaker 1: getting checked for the regeneration of the nerve anymore, right,
Speaker 1: which I wonder if they do, though, Well that's what
Speaker 1: he says. I bet you he has follow ups and
Speaker 1: every once in a while, yeah, maybe see where it's at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not how it used to be though, And he's not
Speaker 1: wearing the brace anymore, which clearly I think that probably
Speaker 1: restricted him a little bit and turned to this movement.
Speaker 1: It's like wearing a ski boot, you know. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that big though, Yeah, no, but it was just kind
Speaker 1: of but you tape, you tape that thing up, and
Speaker 1: it looks like they use seven rolls at tape to
Speaker 1: get his shoe on, you know, And that no telling
Speaker 1: what else they have to do inside the sock, you know,
Speaker 1: or outside the sock whatever they're doing there. So I
Speaker 1: can't feel great. Yeah, yeah, clearly there were times he
Speaker 1: had problem. I mean, the burst wasn't there, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, he said all those baby steps to take
Speaker 1: a big step. Now he doesn't do that. Anything goes
Speaker 1: to the credit of doctor Cooper and Britt Brown and
Speaker 1: those guys, and to credit to him the player. You know,
Speaker 1: they they had a plan for what they were going
Speaker 1: to do and they and they said it. They had
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen was going to be the start of what
Speaker 1: you were going to see with Jalen Smith. And they're right.
Speaker 1: John Smith clearly is a better football player than he
Speaker 1: was last year. And last year I thought he made
Speaker 1: incredible strides. This year, he you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: the things he could do, the coverage, the blitzing, the tackling,
Speaker 1: the physical point of attack play. You know, that's why
Speaker 1: you draft a guy like that. Man, they took a
Speaker 1: huge risk, huge risk, and you had to you had
Speaker 1: to also factor in last year, he hadn't played football
Speaker 1: for a year and three quarters. Yeah, basically, if that
Speaker 1: injury was in the first of January and a start
Speaker 1: playing in September, that's a long time. The next year,
Speaker 1: not that year. The next year. Yeah, I mean what
Speaker 1: we were told was anything he gives you in twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen is kind of gravy. Yeah, because this is the
Speaker 1: year and this has been a year. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think he can even get better. Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1: And you watch him play and there's some incredible things
Speaker 1: he does right now. But you're thinking, oh man, he's
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna get that feeling back again? Did he?
Speaker 1: And he's starting to? He really is. And I could
Speaker 1: say Vandersch gets a lot of credit and we'll deserved.
Speaker 1: For last week. I think Jalen Smith was just as
Speaker 1: good as he was playing a linebacker last week for
Speaker 1: the college. Didn't win Offensive Player of the Week. I
Speaker 1: guess not. I didn't see who won it. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: yeah he's up for the FedEx Ground Award. Chubb when
Speaker 1: that maybe the guy from Cleveland. I watched him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had one run of ninety five yards. I saw that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get you in ninety nine though, no, it's not quite
Speaker 1: Tony d But that was against Atlanta, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sunday's opponent. Let's let's take our first break. Talk a
Speaker 1: little Falcons. Maybe that's why they're thirtieth against the run.
Speaker 1: Maybe so? Or was it against the past? I can't
Speaker 1: remember what they were really bad in one cat that too?
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Speaker 1: that one in Yeah he did, and they blew those
Speaker 1: guys off the ball. I don't ever get to write
Speaker 1: much about quarterback sneaks, but I got to write a
Speaker 1: little bit about that one that was pretty good. That
Speaker 1: was good. And the blocking on the one yard run too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: between I think it was Martin and u Ola Wally
Speaker 1: I saw make a block. Yeah, Ola Wally, that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's a first for him. How are you? Oh,
Speaker 1: he had a nice he had a block. Another that
Speaker 1: was a great game for him because he had a
Speaker 1: block on the on the fake punt. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if now to me. When they
Speaker 1: snapped a ball to Heath, Heath kind of made a determination.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not going to be stopped here. I mean,
Speaker 1: he put his head down and was going to get
Speaker 1: those two yards. But I asked him afterwards, I said,
Speaker 1: were you worried about getting a pedalty? And he said,
Speaker 1: as many times as I've been rammed by somebody who's head,
Speaker 1: they'd better not. Yeah, he put his head down. But
Speaker 1: Ola Wally got the key block right there. He and
Speaker 1: March Lillard really nice job. A matter of fact, I can't.
Speaker 1: I think if we get our studio back today, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna break that one down for everybody. So we go, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to tell him to flash
Speaker 1: it up there right now. No, Maan, I'll break it
Speaker 1: down for you on dallascotwits dot com. I could do
Speaker 1: it right now, but we'll do a full film room session. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do full film room to today today. I look
Speaker 1: forward to that. We had a little power out. It
Speaker 1: just yeah, we did. We got our show in here,
Speaker 1: but it was a little later than we're pretty much
Speaker 1: the only thing that we could do yesterday was podcast. So,
Speaker 1: oh man, here's to everyone that stuck with us through
Speaker 1: all that. Yes, thank you Kent for the help and
Speaker 1: the crew. Ola Wally, do you also have a seal block? Did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The long run on the left sideline though, you got
Speaker 1: Oli Wally got a block and actually Rico Gathers got
Speaker 1: a block on that. About that, Rico magic, know what?
Speaker 1: I think I saw Rico in there for a play
Speaker 1: that he was the only tight end in there. That
Speaker 1: was the play was that it Yeah, it was twenty
Speaker 1: it was twenty one personnel, all right, and that was
Speaker 1: and they said, okay. But the thing about it, the
Speaker 1: play was initially I think it supposed to go to
Speaker 1: the right and had Rico on the left, but with
Speaker 1: the vision all the way back. But hey, give Rico credit.
Speaker 1: He turned his guy, turned his guys out. That's what
Speaker 1: she gotta got, ten snaps, turn it out. He's coming
Speaker 1: along better than Noah Brown. See that's last night we had.
Speaker 1: We had Noah Brown discussion last night, Nicky's least favorite
Speaker 1: draft pick of the last of the modern century, I
Speaker 1: mean draft pick. It was everybody was talking about how
Speaker 1: good he was because he blocks, and then he maybe
Speaker 1: it was because he hadn't played for a whole year.
Speaker 1: He had a couple penalties. I appreciate somebody else being
Speaker 1: credit and at miss blocks. He was getting crushed on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Wasn't his best game, hadn't played
Speaker 1: all year, I know, and I give him that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like him. I'm sure they're gonna keep giving him opportunities.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, but when you saw him come
Speaker 1: in the game, what did you think was going to
Speaker 1: happen a run? Okay, Garrett tells us something. It's pretty
Speaker 1: interesting though. He'll tell you sometimes tendencies are a good
Speaker 1: thing because somebody will guess and then they guess wrong. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And they don't do that every time he's in the game,
Speaker 1: but he does. He has. If you want to talk
Speaker 1: about something he's done well as a rookie, he was
Speaker 1: a good run blocker in the run game for Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? It's a big pan that
Speaker 1: that cracked toss, so they had that thing blocked well.
Speaker 1: But the exception of his block, yeah, I mean, they
Speaker 1: had everything done the right way and he goes in
Speaker 1: there and holds you can't do that though, false start
Speaker 1: too right, yeah, terrible for well, he motioned illegally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he headed towards the line of scrimmage. He thought he
Speaker 1: was playing in the CFLs Like, what's he doing San
Speaker 1: Jose Sabor casts? Yeah, the Sabor casts versus the Rattlers forward.
Speaker 1: It was. It was like one of those things that
Speaker 1: Nate never watched in the studio and Nate and Nate,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, oh, he's going towards the line.
Speaker 1: Ate screams, and I'm like, yeah, the official hurd him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nate was like, why is he going to? The law
Speaker 1: is yelling at him. So y'all had a spirited happy
Speaker 1: hour yesterday. Huh. Yeah. They had a lot of people there,
Speaker 1: but we didn't get to talk to him that we
Speaker 1: could hear it. No, No, except that people listening on it,
Speaker 1: it might have been good. Yeah, yeah, y'all get into
Speaker 1: it a bit fun a little bit. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: going to be spirited. You know, when you talk about
Speaker 1: this team, there's things that they do well, there's things
Speaker 1: they don't do well. I mean, hell, if we all
Speaker 1: agreed about this team would be a sad show every day,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's you don't want a sad show.
Speaker 1: And did you notice going back to brown is that
Speaker 1: they changed that up? Yeah, they decided it's better to
Speaker 1: go too tight end let's get back in the trail
Speaker 1: personnel receivers than one blocker out of those three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they made an adjustment. Yeah, John's that's your transition to
Speaker 1: last year's Atlantic game. Oh no, do we have to
Speaker 1: talk about that one, by the way. Yeah, the eight
Speaker 1: sacks giving up were obviously the most Dak has been
Speaker 1: sacked in his young career. People say it was broken
Speaker 1: after that, you believe that, bhy in of that. I
Speaker 1: don't think a guy with that type of mental toughness
Speaker 1: is broken. But it did signal the downfall of that season.
Speaker 1: And they haven't found a consistency offensively yet this year. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, you talk about what they've done well,
Speaker 1: what they need to do better? Yeah? Did you see
Speaker 1: enough from this last game that they can carry this
Speaker 1: over and possibly get a second straight win for the
Speaker 1: first time this season? Oh? You know, if you think
Speaker 1: about what Atlanta does defensively, you know, I mean, Mickey
Speaker 1: gave you the numbers thirty against thirtieth against the pass.
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten the pressure that they have in the past.
Speaker 1: You know that was that was one of those strange games.
Speaker 1: That's never seen a game quite like Gail Sears was
Speaker 1: a great player. He scored six touchdowns one time in
Speaker 1: the game. Man, that's a strange one. Yeah, strange game.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean this is to me, you know, Dallas,
Speaker 1: if it gets back to where okay that you know,
Speaker 1: with you got Sue Filo playing guard, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: physical upfront. You're gonna get You're gonna get Mary Cooper
Speaker 1: going again. It looks like these receivers are kind of
Speaker 1: finding a little bit of the stride right now. Quarterbacks
Speaker 1: standing there throwing the ball. We've seen it. Mickey's been
Speaker 1: calling for when the quarterback is protected, he can throw
Speaker 1: the football. And I think that that you know, this
Speaker 1: is a crew that last year. Yes, did they beat
Speaker 1: you up, but you had a lot of problems on
Speaker 1: that offensive line. You know that at that time with
Speaker 1: that left tackle, you know that was a big, big,
Speaker 1: big gag problem. But and they didn't help him quickly enough.
Speaker 1: They'll admit that, they'll admit it, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that that. You know, to me, you handled Vic Beasley,
Speaker 1: you handle a tank McKinley, You handle those guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that's where to me that this game is
Speaker 1: really gonna kind of hinge, you know, block those guys,
Speaker 1: because to me, I don't see I don't see the
Speaker 1: Falcons playing great coverage. I don't as Robert Alford that
Speaker 1: they have is you know, he played well in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He gives up a lot of plays. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of plays, and I'm gonna take my
Speaker 1: chances if I've got I went back and watched all
Speaker 1: these receivers play against them, all the big time receivers,
Speaker 1: the AJ Greens and those guys in the world. He
Speaker 1: can't cover those guys, and I damn sure believe he
Speaker 1: can't cover Amari Cooper. So you know, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: my chances there, and I'm gonna take my chances at Cole.
Speaker 1: Beasley's gonna match up well, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna get gallop going. And you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: some things. We've seen some positive things from that Philip.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia game gave me some encouragement, but their ability
Speaker 1: to throw the football, because we talked about this Philadelphia
Speaker 1: secondary was compromised. Well, the secretary doesn't look for him
Speaker 1: very good either. How many sacks you think they have
Speaker 1: right now Atlanta as a team, Uh, twenty two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say twenty. So they had eight against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: last year, right, right, they go, I bet they got seventeen.
Speaker 1: Here we go, where's that rank? Not high? I haven't
Speaker 1: got damn near the bottle thing to be last? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm saying they had eight. Yeah, find a way
Speaker 1: to block these guys. Six of them went to New England, right,
Speaker 1: they're missing Adrian Clayborne. Yeah, career performance by him that day.
Speaker 1: He had four going into the game. No, I think
Speaker 1: in the game. Or do you have six six? Six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: five against Chaz Green I believe, or five against Green?
Speaker 1: And then another one or two against Byron Bell? And
Speaker 1: then they had playing well at guard for another loop inside. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's the shoulder shrug emoji. You know that he's playing
Speaker 1: well at guard Byron Bell, believe it or not. It's
Speaker 1: playing well at guard for can't believe that for the
Speaker 1: Packers he is. I watched a little bit of him
Speaker 1: the other day. Did they lose a whole bunch of guys?
Speaker 1: And oh no, they were down to they were down
Speaker 1: to it and he's kind of coming there and give
Speaker 1: him a little bit stability. So it's kind of a
Speaker 1: that's the NFL pay in the Redskins seemed to have
Speaker 1: the most offensive line problem. They always seem to be
Speaker 1: banks upfront. Giants as well. Cowboys are the year too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had their share, you know what. And speaking of
Speaker 1: their past defense, I'm looking right here. They're giving up
Speaker 1: almost three hundred yards passing a game, two ninety four
Speaker 1: point four. Yeah, I said yesterday, six six games, I
Speaker 1: believe that they've given up three touchdown passes and we're
Speaker 1: in a row. So they're struggling. They're struggling the back end,
Speaker 1: and you know that's you got to take advantage of
Speaker 1: that though. You know, if you've got now, if you've
Speaker 1: got this receiving corps the way it is, you got
Speaker 1: it paired down, it's looking good, it's running routes, it's
Speaker 1: catching the football, it's finishing. Go go take this game
Speaker 1: from these guys. And teams have completed seventy percent of
Speaker 1: their passing against them. They're they're saving grace is their offense.
Speaker 1: That's that's the flip side of this thing. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: outscore yeah, you know, they they did not play well
Speaker 1: against Cleveland offensively, but before that we've talked about how
Speaker 1: good Washington has been defensively. Yeah, they dominated Washington, and
Speaker 1: so with sarks and in his second year as the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator over there, they're starting to look like what
Speaker 1: they were doing a couple of years ago going to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, that worries you. Yeah, n Nate
Speaker 1: made a good point last night though, and it's taking
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's taking more time. When when they
Speaker 1: had Shanahan as a play caller, I mean he was excellent.
Speaker 1: He and Matt Ryan were boy lock step. The way
Speaker 1: they they they called the game and the way he
Speaker 1: executed the game. Sarkisin has taken a little bit more time,
Speaker 1: I think, And you know, you're right the second year,
Speaker 1: but there's just so many weapons. You know, you're dealing
Speaker 1: with that Julio Jones and snow and then they draft Ridley.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a really nice player that I mentioned,
Speaker 1: the tight end Austin Hooper. I think he had several
Speaker 1: catches against the Cowboys last year. You got to worry
Speaker 1: about him on the waggles and the boots. You know,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan still is a very very capable quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: he'll surprise you with his ability to move the move
Speaker 1: in the pocket and make throws. So, you know, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, this could very well be a game that
Speaker 1: ends up like I watched the Cincinnati Atlanta game where
Speaker 1: it came down to the last possession and both teams
Speaker 1: are in the thirties scoring, and you know, you hear
Speaker 1: I'm saying the Cowboys in the thirty scoring, But you
Speaker 1: know they're capable of with now, with what we've seen,
Speaker 1: you know, so I just feel like though it's a
Speaker 1: lot of this game is going to be about can
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get one or two extra stops? You know,
Speaker 1: that's where you can't let him just score at four
Speaker 1: drives and score three times. You got to have, you know,
Speaker 1: if you get And the Cowboys have been playing really
Speaker 1: well in the red zone if or down when you
Speaker 1: took gold the gold situation too, so that saved him
Speaker 1: in some of these games. So hopefully they can continue
Speaker 1: to do that because they've been getting off the field too. Mick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know better, except for that Tennessee game, which was yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was bad. But you go ahead, well
Speaker 1: you look at Atlanta and they're converting. I think they
Speaker 1: were converting over fifty percent of their third downs and
Speaker 1: their third and lungs was like half half of them.
Speaker 1: They're completing. Yeah, so that's and that's what Tennessee did
Speaker 1: to you. Yes, you got a third away seven plus
Speaker 1: they were Yeah, you gotta find a way to get
Speaker 1: off the field. So the misconception is because the score
Speaker 1: ended up twenty seven seven, right, it was ten seven
Speaker 1: at halftime. Yeah that last year its Atlanta. Yeah that
Speaker 1: they just you know, just had gobs of yards and
Speaker 1: Ryan only passed for two hundred and fifteen yards two fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had three thirty six total yards. Now he was
Speaker 1: twenty two of twenty nine. Yeah, but you know it
Speaker 1: wasn't like they just smoked him. Yeah, they had Hooper
Speaker 1: guy had six catches for forty nine in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So you have to be if you're the if you're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and after and I know Zecheranz is a
Speaker 1: special player, don't get me wrong, but if you're the
Speaker 1: Atlanta you're thinking, Okay, how can we match up? What
Speaker 1: are they doing tied end wise or what are they
Speaker 1: doing coverage wise? Is this gonna be a game where
Speaker 1: you're gonna see again. Is it gonna be Jeff Heath,
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Xavier Woods? Is it gonna be linebackers?
Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you play against Hooper?
Speaker 1: Because he's on the move a lot, and that's when
Speaker 1: you get a guy that's on the move, then it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to cover that guy because if he's stationary,
Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, that's our guy. But if he's moving,
Speaker 1: if he's you know, they run traps when they do it,
Speaker 1: like they do with Jef Swing, they run traps with him.
Speaker 1: They bring them across the formation, they run the waggles,
Speaker 1: the boots, they'll sit him down in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. You know, there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: they do with this guy. Did they did you see
Speaker 1: from watching them this last week game against Cleveland? Did
Speaker 1: they do anything to try to take Khalil away? Did
Speaker 1: they play more cover too? Try to try allow underneath
Speaker 1: stuff with that? But that's what they were trying to do,
Speaker 1: That's what they really you know, they now like to
Speaker 1: say where and Mickey's described this as well too, when
Speaker 1: they play that cover two stuff and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you're having to carry that mic linebacker because you're
Speaker 1: playing your safety's wide, you know, instead of playing him
Speaker 1: on the hash, you're taking your safeties and you're playing
Speaker 1: them out to try and help on the deep outside, right,
Speaker 1: you know, to carry those guys. Yeah, and now and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden it opens the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. And the thing that Matt Ryan will do
Speaker 1: is he will take some shots in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. You know, get ready for the cross or
Speaker 1: a cross or a cross, or get ready for the picks,
Speaker 1: get ready for the deep down the field shots, you know,
Speaker 1: and he'll throw the ball in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: So if you know, I don't think you could give
Speaker 1: these guys free access and routes. If this was the
Speaker 1: old if this was the old Rob Ryan's scheme, you
Speaker 1: would probably see you would probably see Byron Jones traveling
Speaker 1: with Julio Jones in this game. But these guys, Chris
Speaker 1: Rochard and Rod Marinelli more about play your side and
Speaker 1: play that way. So for Julio Jones, would you take
Speaker 1: if he caught six passes for fifty seven yards? Would
Speaker 1: you take that? No touchdowns? Right? Because he's he's touchdowns
Speaker 1: his last two games, which has been a touchdowns last
Speaker 1: year against the Cowboys, the touchdowns were too hardy. Is
Speaker 1: that a tight end to Justin Harden number fourteen? Cooper
Speaker 1: and then Coleman had a one yard run. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he only had six. I don't know how they covered him.
Speaker 1: I don't remember six for fifty seven. I'd take that
Speaker 1: right now. He averaged nine and a half yards a catch,
Speaker 1: So all that stuff was underneath. The problem was they
Speaker 1: weren't getting any pressure on Ryan. He got sacked once
Speaker 1: and they only had four pressures. Yeah, out of twenty
Speaker 1: nine snaps. Yeah, gotta do better than that, no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. All Right, let's take our final break when
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Speaker 1: I was expecting some kind of different finish from you there. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just go straight here for this. Good job just
Speaker 1: reading that liner. Appreciate it. Welcome back to Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Morgan studio. Rob Brian Mickey kent for
Speaker 1: a few more minutes, and let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1: Jim in Pasadena, you're up first. What's up man? Good morning, Rob?
Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you? I'm good, Hey,
Speaker 1: looking at tape and just letting the condensed copy go
Speaker 1: and know how to letting the game run. And holy cow,
Speaker 1: the first half, I can't say that our offense did
Speaker 1: play well. I think DAK had a horrible first half
Speaker 1: and its an open Beasley and Zeke and Cooper down
Speaker 1: the sidelines. I think it went until the last drive
Speaker 1: that we even got Zeke going. And then I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the second half and it's a totally different game.
Speaker 1: DAK really had a good second half, and I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if there was changes in the play calling. It seemed
Speaker 1: like Cooper kept us in the game first half, and
Speaker 1: then I'm noticing on defense some of your thoughts, please,
Speaker 1: When we blitched, we got no pressure. It was Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith up the middle and they had it stoned. And
Speaker 1: then in the secondary we can't seem to stop the
Speaker 1: play action scene pass. They just killed us with that
Speaker 1: and maybe five or six times in the course of
Speaker 1: the game. Your thoughts on that, how do we defend that?
Speaker 1: And if you got any thoughts on what do we
Speaker 1: want to make Matt Ryan do and what do we
Speaker 1: want to take away from them? Thanks guys, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call. Jim, you feel like a whole pregame show there.
Speaker 1: Let me write it down. What was the last one
Speaker 1: about how Ryan Ryan unaffortable? Yeah? The scene pass stuff too,
Speaker 1: is you know that that's something that has been that's
Speaker 1: all year, right, that's been all year. That's something that's
Speaker 1: not new. And that's when we talk about playing the
Speaker 1: Cover two stuff. That's why you play. You know, people
Speaker 1: you play Cover two to try and kind of take
Speaker 1: away that, you know, putting a guy on the hash.
Speaker 1: But if you play, you play the guys wide, then
Speaker 1: that's going to kind of open up some space. They
Speaker 1: play a ton of single high, which means that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, you're gonna have to make a
Speaker 1: determination which way the safety. You know, now you'd like
Speaker 1: to say, okay, cheat if a guy's killing you in
Speaker 1: a game, you'd like to cheat his way. But that's
Speaker 1: something I mean, that's something that when they play that
Speaker 1: single high that's that's been a problem, you know. But
Speaker 1: I think again though, that's a that that player, that
Speaker 1: player that that you had to face in Philadelphia, he's
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league when it comes
Speaker 1: to running that stuff. Though, going up the middle of
Speaker 1: the field like that. I'll agree on Dak and missing
Speaker 1: some passes early. Uh, you know, I think there's a
Speaker 1: couple that he'd like to have back. I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, the past that bothered me the most was
Speaker 1: the one that went up the sidelines to uh Alamari Cooper,
Speaker 1: because Cooper did a great job of escaping to get
Speaker 1: open and then you saw the exceller ration and the
Speaker 1: burst and all that to get past would have been
Speaker 1: a touchdown, would have been a touchdown, you know. I was.
Speaker 1: I was kind of critical of the pass he threw
Speaker 1: to uh to Elliott in the flat that was behind him,
Speaker 1: because I thought he should have thrown it up the field.
Speaker 1: If he thrown it up the field, then I thought
Speaker 1: he would have scored a touchdown. But watching I think
Speaker 1: philadelph watching again on table, Philadelphia would have probably tackled
Speaker 1: him right around the one or the two yard line.
Speaker 1: But it had given you an opportunity to maybe go
Speaker 1: for it if you wanted to at that certain situation.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, second half. You know, you know, Mickey
Speaker 1: talked about this as well. Philadelphia became compromised in the secondary.
Speaker 1: He started losing guys. They were down anyway, So what
Speaker 1: did you do? You took advantage of, you know, bad
Speaker 1: players out there trying to play his zone coverage. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at the route that Alan Hearns ran, you
Speaker 1: mean free access inside, you know against Rashul Douglas. You know,
Speaker 1: Douglas had no chance in this game. He's the one
Speaker 1: that got beat by Yeah, that got beat earlier with
Speaker 1: a with a Cooper. You know, on the pass it
Speaker 1: should have been been should have been caught or thrown
Speaker 1: to the long pass. But I think that to me,
Speaker 1: that I mean, I think to Scott Lenahan actually called
Speaker 1: a really good game here. I mean I've been I've
Speaker 1: been critical of him. I've been critical of you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Garrett, I think Garrett can do this.
Speaker 1: I think Garrett, you know, But Scott did a nice job.
Speaker 1: I thought he had. I thought he had a good plan.
Speaker 1: I thought he had he had an idea of how
Speaker 1: to how he wanted to attack Philadelphia. I think it
Speaker 1: wasn't overly run heavy, but but the runs he did
Speaker 1: call were timely, well executed blocks. You know. I thought
Speaker 1: he got in the right personnel groups, you know. And
Speaker 1: I thought that the quarterback, you know, that that that
Speaker 1: drive that they had right before half would mind me,
Speaker 1: very reminiscent of what happened in Green Bay, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, in twenty sixteen. You know,
Speaker 1: right before half, they're backed up in their own end
Speaker 1: and then they drive it out and they get a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and that really flipped the game around. So I give
Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for staying aggressive there. What
Speaker 1: was the score at halftime, thirteen three thirteen three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they basically in one half hit their road average
Speaker 1: very much, okay, and I thought they should have buried
Speaker 1: them though they should have had perfect right when perfect,
Speaker 1: but it was better. Yeah. And and then as for
Speaker 1: the defense, they gave up twenty points. I know, they misplays,
Speaker 1: they gave up twenty points. Yeah. I mean, well, I
Speaker 1: will say say that Philly got going offensively in the
Speaker 1: second half, but I kind of had, you know, the
Speaker 1: kind of have a feeling they would They had some
Speaker 1: opportunities in the first half and just couldn't cash in themselves. Um,
Speaker 1: Cowboys played well again down there, you know, and you
Speaker 1: get in scoring they make them kick fuel goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they made kick a field goal. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: key right there. Those four point plays, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: difference in games. Right now. They held Philadelphia to two touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the expectations for this defense have raised.
Speaker 1: I mean you're saying that, I think people were expecting
Speaker 1: them to be you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen points, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Brian's right that that that drive before the half
Speaker 1: change momentum and Dallas got the ball too to start
Speaker 1: to have I know they didn't do anything with it,
Speaker 1: but at least you had the comfort of no one
Speaker 1: you get another crack at it, right, you know, you
Speaker 1: wish you'd come down there and done something with that,
Speaker 1: but you know, Dallas had gone into the game, into
Speaker 1: that game, and I think I'm right about this stat.
Speaker 1: They had yet to score a touchdown or yet to
Speaker 1: score points in a two minute drive. Is that right?
Speaker 1: I think that's I think, if I'm not mistaken, that
Speaker 1: is that going. I know I was looking at some
Speaker 1: some numbers and stuff, but Dallas didn't think had a
Speaker 1: had a any type of points in a two minute
Speaker 1: drive all season until that one in Philadelphia. And Jim
Speaker 1: mentioned the two minute offense and we got that was
Speaker 1: our other male bad question we got asked about Dak
Speaker 1: seems to execute, feel comfortable when they're in that tempo
Speaker 1: type setting. Now, it's not something they're gonna do all
Speaker 1: the time, but he does. Yeah, seem comfortable. Okay, to
Speaker 1: make it they had points in a two minute drive. Well,
Speaker 1: the end of the Detroit game, they drove down and
Speaker 1: kicked a field goal. Yeah, and when you're behind time
Speaker 1: expired behind against Washington they finally got going a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a touchdown that they had. I don't know,
Speaker 1: so I thought it was something that they had not. Okay,
Speaker 1: my battle one one I remember was Detroit two minute
Speaker 1: though it was the last the time inspired that's true,
Speaker 1: it was true minute and he drove them down against Washington. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: wasn't his fall he hit the upright miss. I think
Speaker 1: that the stat I heard was they haven't scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown on an opening possession yet of a game that
Speaker 1: that used to be something they did all the time,
Speaker 1: at least that points. Yeah, but they marched right now.
Speaker 1: Why they're deferring now? Yeah, Dak in the two minutes
Speaker 1: or Dak in the two minute stuff. I think it
Speaker 1: a lot has to do with getting the right personnel
Speaker 1: on the field now there. I think they're more comfortable
Speaker 1: playing with they put. They put Gallop out there, Beasley
Speaker 1: out there, and Cooper out there, because the way to
Speaker 1: make a two minute offense work is not change personnel,
Speaker 1: you know, keep keep the same personnel on the field
Speaker 1: and then keep rolling along. Find what you're happy with. Fine, fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: go with the guy. Keep Zeke on the field, keep
Speaker 1: your three receivers on the field, keep your tied in
Speaker 1: on the field, if that's what you want to do,
Speaker 1: and then play that way. Then you then you can
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, by substitute and you're kind of
Speaker 1: hurting yourself a little bit there. But I think they
Speaker 1: got guys that could play now in a two minute
Speaker 1: offense and keep them out there and they don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about them. Yeah, because you don't want to substitute, No,
Speaker 1: because then they get the substitute and they can drag
Speaker 1: their butts absolutely there and absolutely absolutely you don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. You want to just keep keep the
Speaker 1: good personnel you have on the field and keep going.
Speaker 1: I mentioned before the break the two changes they've made.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Cooper his effect. You said, statistically, they're
Speaker 1: up in a lot of categories since he's been back,
Speaker 1: even though they lost to Tennessee. There's no question he's
Speaker 1: had an impact. And the other thing I thought, second half,
Speaker 1: we saw this offensive line do what they've done in
Speaker 1: the past, and that's kind of gets stronger as the
Speaker 1: game goes on. And I think I think Mark Colombo
Speaker 1: is having a different impact on these guys in terms
Speaker 1: of a more of a physical, aggressive approach. I think
Speaker 1: it's working so far. No, there's no question, you know,
Speaker 1: and I believe I don't know if it was last night,
Speaker 1: but or one of the show mightbe yesterday. Mickey mentioned
Speaker 1: there's somebody mentioned that that Dak and Zeke both by
Speaker 1: name called out Mark Colombo in that game. You know
Speaker 1: they said, hey, you know, and that's I think as
Speaker 1: a line coach, you have to appreciate, you know, if
Speaker 1: you guys, your players are noticing your heart. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody's worked. Nobody works harder than Mark, trust me. I
Speaker 1: mean you watch practice out there, you could tell he
Speaker 1: is totally into it. He's bought in, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: they asked him to do, he's you know, the adjustments
Speaker 1: they've had to make. And in the second half of
Speaker 1: that game, I thought were good, you know, with without
Speaker 1: blocking and what they were gonna do blocking wise, so
Speaker 1: you know, they protected, they ran the football. Well that's
Speaker 1: all you can ask for your line coach to kind
Speaker 1: of get those guys go in the right direction. They'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do when Connor Williams
Speaker 1: is ready to play. Yeah, and and there may be
Speaker 1: another game to just evaluate what Suaphilo can do. We'll see,
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see if Connor can get back into
Speaker 1: practice this week. And he's a different type of player,
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. He's a he's a bigger
Speaker 1: guy and you know so uh, but they drafted Connor
Speaker 1: Williams to be that guy and Mickey's right, we'll see
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's a I think you know,
Speaker 1: it would be very hard for me if in fact,
Speaker 1: you know, you got in the Atlanta game and things
Speaker 1: where you ran the ball well again, you protected Dak,
Speaker 1: were comfortable in the pocket throwing the football, and you
Speaker 1: know those things, those positive things. You know, the short week,
Speaker 1: do you want to turn around say okay, well we're
Speaker 1: gonna put Connor Williams back, even though Connor Williams has
Speaker 1: played what seven games right for you? So I think
Speaker 1: though that if if things roll along well, you might
Speaker 1: not want to change that. You might not want to
Speaker 1: change what's going on at least you know, through through
Speaker 1: the you know, through the Thanksgiving time of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point because with a short week, even
Speaker 1: if Connor came back, he's going to get basically one
Speaker 1: practice in. They're not going to practice gonna be really
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the Wednesday practice they had after
Speaker 1: the after the Money Night game, and then the next
Speaker 1: week you would have a full week. So if if
Speaker 1: he's just not horrible in this next game, I think
Speaker 1: you ride with it. I don't know that you have
Speaker 1: to go with it long term. I mean Steven answered
Speaker 1: the question and he talked about how much they like
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, and yeah, he's a rookie and you know
Speaker 1: he needs to play, but when you put him in
Speaker 1: might have to do with the schedule and and the
Speaker 1: short week. Yeah, you know, we spoke to Suaphilo yesterday,
Speaker 1: this very professional guy. Had anybody talked to him until
Speaker 1: last week? Uh not? I don't think on the record,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's he's held court in
Speaker 1: there before. And this is a guy that what day
Speaker 1: does he douse? He didn't have a dozen dated day yet.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Tuesday. I don't know he did that. Somebody said,
Speaker 1: I don't talk today. What they were Matt Lair, the
Speaker 1: former guard, He told somebody, I don't only talk on Wednesdays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, Uh that was the
Speaker 1: way bad as like two thousand and four. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a former second round pick that he said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had to deal with a lot of disappointment. I
Speaker 1: mean he got cut, you know, and what he's been
Speaker 1: able to do, what he was able to do last
Speaker 1: week with you know, very minimal time on tasks. You know,
Speaker 1: that's impressive. I mean that last week was his first
Speaker 1: week to get rep Yeah, right, that that shared him
Speaker 1: with and he did, Yeah, he did. He did not
Speaker 1: get he just not. I mean, trust me, he's playing something.
Speaker 1: He's looking he's playing somebody else's guy. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: playing the you know, the the guy from the Titans
Speaker 1: or the guy from the Texans or the guy from
Speaker 1: you know. And I would as a former alignment, I
Speaker 1: would imagine that's a little more difficult for alignment because
Speaker 1: continuity and communication is probably more important than you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a wide receiver and you're you're stepping into
Speaker 1: a show. There's nobody that's had to deal with more
Speaker 1: change than Tyrann Smith. You know, there's nobody that's had
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one guy that they How many
Speaker 1: guys have you know since since We'll think about just
Speaker 1: last year, think of all the different guys that have
Speaker 1: played guard. Started off with Chaz Green at guard and
Speaker 1: then what happened? Then you went bell at sometime Cooper
Speaker 1: was in there. Uh did Joe Looney ever get a
Speaker 1: little bit of war? And I mean, I mean you
Speaker 1: know that it was Lyell in the past, it was
Speaker 1: Colin it was Leary than Collins, than Leary, than Green
Speaker 1: than Cooper Bell went in there, and now it changed again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See that's what I'm saying that this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: when he was when when when Smith was really kind
Speaker 1: humming along there, you know, he had a big strong
Speaker 1: guy next to him. You know, he had Ron Leary
Speaker 1: next to him there, and that's a you know, something
Speaker 1: that you could kind of Again, I trust Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: and what he's saying here that if they're going to
Speaker 1: get Connor Williams back in there, good for him. But
Speaker 1: also you have to think about the football team, you know,
Speaker 1: and and how you how are you playing presently? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How are you know? If Suefielder goes out there and
Speaker 1: lays a big fat egg against Grady Jerald or Grady
Speaker 1: Jarrett excuse me, then you know, then he'll be a
Speaker 1: little bit easier to make that switch. You got about
Speaker 1: a minute left, Steve in New York, quickly, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind, sir? Hey guys, just real quick? Uh Rett Maha.
Speaker 1: I'm not overly concerned about the field goals, but all
Speaker 1: the kickoffs seemed to be short on Sunday night. There
Speaker 1: was he being instructed to do that. No, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was. I asked that question. He was not. He was.
Speaker 1: He was told to kick it out of the end
Speaker 1: zone and that's that was on him. And but and
Speaker 1: I also I said, but, hey, you guys did a
Speaker 1: nice job of covering. They said, yeah, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. You want to kick that ball.
Speaker 1: That's why I was a little bit surprised. And Steve,
Speaker 1: there was no win whatsoever. Their guy was having no
Speaker 1: problem putting it five eight yards deep. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was surprising. I'm not sure what happened. I thought
Speaker 1: the first one maybe they tried it, but then all
Speaker 1: the barely reaching the end zone. Yeah, yeah, I asked that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, guys, got you not a health issue that
Speaker 1: we know of. He's not on the injury report. Let's
Speaker 1: hope he didn't hit the wall. Yeah, but he's missed
Speaker 1: three of his last five kicks, three misses in the
Speaker 1: last three games. That yeah, that two games, right, it's
Speaker 1: been three, but that's it three Yeah. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: were talking about you're trying to make a run. Close games.
Speaker 1: They play a lot of close games. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: have that, can't I can't give up points because he
Speaker 1: missed two. Did he missed two against Washington? His kicks
Speaker 1: of these missed have all been outdoors, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they need to get him off there. Did he
Speaker 1: miss one at the Tennessee game? Or was Tennessee not Walton?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Why don't you how do we miss
Speaker 1: the one in Washington? How don't you look up that
Speaker 1: stat and tell us tomorrow? I'm talking Cowboys? We are now,
Speaker 1: we're struggling with our knowledge today him sorry, sorry, thanks
Speaker 1: to miss one in each of the last three games.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Thanks, good, Well, you're up. Yeah,
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