1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Daybak podcast, available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Tuesday, the seventh of 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: May here in London. I'm Caroline Hepkin and. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 4: UBS smashes past profit estimates in the first quarter as 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 4: it prepares to complete the Credit Suite merger this month. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Israel rejects a cease far proposal backed by her Mass 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: and vows to continue its military operation in Galza. 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 4: And change is good except when it isn't. Why moving 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 4: jobs doesn't always make you happier. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: UBS has returned to profit after two quarters of losses, 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: but is warning of further costs from its integration of 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Credit Suites. The Swiss banking giant reported first quarter net 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: income of almost one point eight billion dollars, three times 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: what analysts were expecting. The outpufore moments was driven by 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: its investment bank and wealth management divisions, but UBS is 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: expecting to book one point three billion dollars in expenses 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: linked to the Credit Suisse merger in the coming months. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: The legal tie up with its former rival, is due 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: to be completed on the thirty first of May, and. 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: Just breaking earnings results this hour, BP reporting first quarter 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: adjusted net profit that missed expectations at two point seven 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: two billion dollars, so that some two hundred million dollars 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: less than had been expected. The company also announcing a 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: share buyback in the first quarter of one point seventy 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: five billion dollars. 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Now to the Middle East, Israeli troops have taken control 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: of the main border crossing into Gaza, blocking aid trucks 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: and people entering from Egypt. The move comes a day 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: after Israel told residents in parts of Raffa to leave 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: ahead of a possible attack on the city. Israel's war 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: cabinet has unanimously rejected a Gaza ceasefire proposal backed by Hamas, 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: saying that it does not meet the country's necessary demands. 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Jonathan Panikoff of the Atlantic Council's Middle East program says 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who is facing increasing pressure 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: from inside Israel. 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 5: Domestically, it's a real challenge. Hostage families and Israelis as 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: a whole have been calling for his temporary ceasefire for 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: months now that would bring another set of hostages. Pon 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: the November release of hostages seems like a lifetime ago, 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: and really there's an increasing pressure in Israel for Benjamin 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 5: DETTANYAHUO and the coalition to make progress on the hostages 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: being released. 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: Jonathan Panakoff's comments come as Israel said that it would 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: send a delegation to meet with mediators to exhaust the 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: possibility of reaching an agreement. It's understood that any deal 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: would include the release of Israeli hostages held in Gaza 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: in exchange for Palestinians detained in Israeli jails and a pause. 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: Infighter Seatingping has called on France to help prevent a 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: new Cold War. China's president told his French counterpart, and 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Manuel Macron, that the two countries should be fostering closer 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: economic ties rather than decoupling. Bloomberg's chief North Asia correspondent 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: Steven Angel says this comes as the EU has been 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: more robust in its trade relations with China. 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 6: Clearly, he has a mission to offer the Europeans China's 58 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 6: economic benefits. The European Union is sort of aligning itself 59 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 6: more towards a US position. Towards China on trade on 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 6: a number of issues and potential tariffs on evs and 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: the like, and also, of course the security threat with 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 6: the war in Ukraine into its third year right now, 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 6: and that is at front and center. 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: Angel adds that China's no limits friendship with Russia has 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: stirred distrust in European capitals. Francis Macron responded to she, 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: saying that there cannot be security in Europe without security 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: in Ukraine. 68 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: Now on earning this morning, Aramco will pay thirty one 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 2: billion dollars in dividends to the Saudi government and other 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: investors despite lower profits. The world's biggest crude all exporter 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: made a first quarter profit of twenty seven and a 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 2: half billion dollars, but that missed estimates. Aramco's generous payouts 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: are becoming increasingly important for the Gulf state as all 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 2: prices remain below the levels that it needs to balance 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: its budget. The kingdom needs oil at around one hundred 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: and eight dollars about to balance the budget with which 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: is more than twenty dollars above the current trading price. 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: Richmond Federal Reserve President Thomas Barkin says the full impact 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: of high interest rates is yet to come. The voting 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 4: policymaker added he still expects to hit the central banks 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: two percent inflation target without further hikes. It comes as 82 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: the central bank speakers like New York Fed President John 83 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: Williams continue to signal caution over murky economic data. 84 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 7: Do we have the maximum employment and price to building goal? 85 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 7: From my perspective, see all the data and information speaks to. 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: All of that. 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 7: And really, you know, as the data come in, hopefully 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 7: we'll be moving in the direction we want to see 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 7: both on inflation in terms of restoring balance to the economy, 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 7: and then we'll make our decisions based on that. 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: John Williams speaking there. 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: Both Williams and Barkin joined other right setters and voting 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: unanimously to keep US rates at a two decade high 94 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: last week. 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: Now, the UKAI startup Wave has raised a billion dollars 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: in funding for its self driving technology. It's one of 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the largest cash injections for a European AI venture on record. 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: In Vidio Softbak and Microsoft are three of the key 99 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: investors in Wave, which was founded by CEO Alex Kendall 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Although no valuation was disclosed, the company 101 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: says that it should be its last major funding around 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: as it starts to get profit from commercial deals. 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: And job seeker is looking for a happier work life 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: with a new employer may find the grass isn't always greener. 105 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: That's according to new research in the United States that 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: shows recent switchers are less satisfied. 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: Than those who stayed. Pot Bloomberg's Tea Adabio has the details. 108 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 8: Once a sure fire away to make workers happier, switching 109 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 8: jobs is now leaving them more miserable than before. A 110 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 8: survey from the US Conference Board found that in twenty 111 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 8: twenty two, recent hires had greater job satisfaction, but just 112 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 8: a year later that trend has reversed. Lucrative pandemic pay 113 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 8: bumps could be to blame for the change, encouraging job 114 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 8: hunters to ignore other factors like culture and training. Despite 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 8: the dip in new highest sentiment ratings for overall job 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 8: satisfaction are still at their highest since nineteen eighty seven. 117 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 8: In London, tiwa ad a Bio Bloomberg Radio. 118 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: In a moment, we will bring you our interview with 119 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: the UBS CEO, Sodio Ramati and also talk about the 120 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: latest developments in the Middle East. But another story that 121 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: cod aur I this morning now, Havier Blastom Bomberg opinion 122 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: is the person that you want to be reading if 123 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: you're worried about the cost of important goods going up. 124 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: He's our commodities experts. He flagged quite a long time 125 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: ago at the soaring cost of olive oil, very important 126 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: if you're a heavy consumer. 127 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: Now he's worried about coffee. 128 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is also he has a lovely kind of 129 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: line about how his favorite breakfast foods are going up 130 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: in price because hea'ts bred with a dash of olive 131 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: oil and a coffee. Now, the issue is that there 132 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: is it's not just weather that is affecting. And we 133 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: have talked, for example about the sawing price of cocoa beans. 134 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Again that's the kind of weather climate change related issue, 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: but it's also to do with the fact that China 136 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: is affecting the price and what growers actually plant, as 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: well as rather falling in love with coffee themselves and 138 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: so pushing up the price of Arabica and other coffee 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: blends that are so important in the West. 140 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely worth there is. If you've got time this 141 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: morning in China's need love of coffee is coming for yours. 142 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: Have of last's latest piece FM Bloomberg Opinion. 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: Now let's get more on our top story, the bumper 144 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: results from UBS these UK based lender return to profit 145 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: after two loss making quarters. The robust set of results 146 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: will be a boost for Sergio and Moti, the CEO, 147 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: as he grapples with a tightening regulatory outlook in Switzerland. 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: Sergio Motti has been speaking to our editor at large, 149 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: franc In Laqua, and Moti began by highlighting the strength 150 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: in the bank's recent performance. 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 9: First of all, we are making very good progress on 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 9: our integration plans, but also it was great to see 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 9: a very strong return to profitability both on a reported 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 9: basis but also very strong underlying profits. We also see 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 9: a good momentum with clients with inflows across our businesses, 156 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 9: and our capital is strong, so allowing us to continue 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 9: to pursue our capital return plans. 158 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 10: And also the investment bank was actually quite strong, better 159 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 10: than expected. Again, what does it tell you about what 160 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 10: you can see in the future. Is it a one 161 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 10: off or actually is a path ahead better? 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 9: Actually, it's a good momentum. You may remember in the 163 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 9: four quarter. We also had a very strong performance in banking. 164 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 9: As we integrate a new colleagues from Credit Switch on 165 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 9: our platform, we start to see the pipeline developing we 166 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 9: are able to execute and so it's very much aligned 167 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 9: with our expectations of improving the mix between our markets 168 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 9: business and our banking business in the investment bank. 169 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 10: So in the investment bank where you see the biggest 170 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 10: strength and know we also heard about possible job losses 171 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 10: in Asia. Is Asia at the moment weaker than, for example, 172 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 10: parts of the US and investment bank. 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 9: No, I think that we reinforced our franchises globally. I 174 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 9: think that, of course, we are still going through across 175 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 9: the entire bank. We are still a lot of work 176 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 9: to be done to res structure the businesses and to 177 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 9: bring them back into even stronger profitability. So I think 178 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 9: that is a good momentum. We achieve almost a ten 179 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 9: percent return on CT one, which is still a third 180 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 9: or fifty percent away from our final targets, so still 181 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 9: work to be done. We always say that twenty twenty 182 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 9: four is an important year, and as we now approach 183 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 9: the end of May, we're going to execute on our 184 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 9: legal entity mergers which allow us to unlock in the 185 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 9: future further cost settings. 186 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 10: An important year twenty twenty four because it's also more 187 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 10: difficult year to twenty twenty three. 188 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: No, because is the. 189 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 9: More First of all, we have two huge milestones, the 190 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 9: merger of our legal entities and the second one we 191 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 9: start to do the migration of clients from the credit 192 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 9: switch platforms into the UBS platforms. So this is very technical, 193 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 9: still requires a lot of support and. 194 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: People to do that. 195 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 9: But as we start to do that, we can unlock 196 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 9: some cost savings, but also unlock capital savings, funding savings, 197 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 9: and therefore you know, achieving our final targets to achieve 198 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 9: thirteen billions of savings by the end of twenty twenty 199 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 9: six forty this year we do expect half of that 200 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 9: being achieved, so six and a half billions. 201 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 10: So when you look at global wealth, I mean the 202 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 10: outlook talks about interest rate cuts. Again, how do you 203 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 10: worry about you know, things that are outside. 204 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 9: Your control, well, things that are side our control. You know, 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 9: we always need to wonder what can happen on the 206 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 9: geopolitical front, what can happen on any sudden change in 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 9: the macroeconomic pictures. So I think that we do indeed 208 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 9: a factor in our outlook for NII. For example, three 209 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 9: rate cuts in the US, two rate cuts in Switzerland. 210 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 9: This can change. If it changes, may be beneficiary to 211 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 9: our NII, but maybe the underlying macroeconomic event is not 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 9: so positive. So you know, we need to always assess well, 213 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 9: we are prepared for any scenario. We stay focused one 214 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 9: on our plan, but also we have you know, a 215 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 9: balance sheet for old seasons, allowing us to really manage 216 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 9: any unexpected event. 217 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 10: So when you look at market volatility, it's a little 218 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 10: bit unusual to see this much market volatility or even 219 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 10: pricing on the fact. How do you describe the. 220 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 9: Markets, Well, it's a kind of market volatility around bonds 221 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 9: and ten years. But if I look on effects, I 222 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 9: look at equities and many other anset classes, the volatility 223 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 9: is not there is more subdued. We saw more client 224 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 9: and activity, but let's not forget that there is a 225 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 9: little bit of seasonality factor in the first quarter. So 226 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 9: we need to really see how in the next quarter 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 9: things are going to play out. We have to remember 228 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 9: that we are still facing in the in the in 229 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 9: the foreseeable future, big elections coming, and how this is 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 9: going to then play out into the sentiment of clients. 231 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 10: Still still open, and that will be very regionally. Again, 232 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 10: if you look at pipelines, did you see a difference. 233 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, very origionally, but you know nowadays things in every 234 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 9: region can affect others, so I think that things are 235 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 9: quite fluid. 236 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 10: Is Europe weaker than the rest of the world, Well, 237 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 10: Europe is. 238 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: Still not growing. 239 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 9: If I look at our businesses, of course, it's still 240 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 9: somehow clear that the real growth is mainly driven by 241 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 9: the US and in Asia. I'm also very pleased with 242 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 9: our performance in Switzerland, but when I look at Europe 243 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 9: in general, it's still not so constructive. 244 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: So that was the UPS Group CEO Searge and mostly 245 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: that's wee into Bloombogs Francine Laqua. Of course, the Swiss 246 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: authorities warm systematically important banks to hold more capital. That's 247 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: one major issue. In terms of the tea live blog 248 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: that is live on the Bloomberg Tumil, you can follow 249 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: all of our experts speaking about the UBS results. Now, 250 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: jan Patrick Barnett, a senior reporter, talking about UBS shares 251 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: indicated higher three percent this morning, so that on one 252 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: of our key earning stories. 253 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: Well, let's turn two events in the Middle East. Next, 254 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: and Israeli troops have taken control of the Rafa border 255 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: crossing area in Gazo, with Hama saying that all aid 256 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: flows from Egypt saying have stopped. 257 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: It's the latest development. 258 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: Is Hamas and Israel been negotiating via cut Our Egypt 259 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: and the US on a ceasefire, hostage and prison and 260 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: agreement for weeks. Now joining us with more is Our 261 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: EMEA Ands director rasalind Mathis and Raz Good morning to you. 262 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: First of all, what do we know about what's been 263 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: happening at Rafa this morning and how significant is it? 264 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Well, what we know is that there were actually strikes 265 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: in the Rafa area by Israel air strikes overnight and 266 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: then today we've got news that troops have moved into 267 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the Rougher crossing area and that's the first time since 268 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: the war broke out since Hermas attacked Israel back in October, 269 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and they've secured that crossing and they've blocked it off 270 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: and so that means that no aid at all people 271 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: can move back and forth between that and that is 272 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the conduit between Egypt and Gaza and has been a 273 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: major port of operation for aid to go into Gaza 274 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: in recent months. It's not the only crossing into Gaza, 275 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: but there's only a few, and you know, they've been 276 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: pretty troubled throughout and so it's really going to raise 277 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: questions about the flow of aid into Gaza. It also 278 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: points to the fact that Israel is very determined to 279 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: push ahead with some sort of offensive in Rufa, whether 280 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: that's within weeks or days or whatever. They're making preparations 281 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: for it, and so they're picking up their activity there 282 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: and that's really a sign that despite the talks that 283 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: are still going to go on towards the ceasefire, that 284 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: Israel sees its primary goal as going to rough for 285 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: at some point. 286 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, those negotiations expected to continue today. What do 287 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: we know about the cease far proposal and a possible deal, 288 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: you know, talks of Hamas backing a deal and a 289 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: rebuttal from Israel. 290 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Well we know that Hamas that accepted the deal that 291 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: was proposed by cut Her and Egypt, of course facilitated 292 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: also by the US, and Israel says that's not good enough. 293 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: And it seems to be a continuation of disagreement over 294 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: felling minor wording in the end, but it's really about 295 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: what this deal might mean in terms of setting the 296 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: pathway for a full end to the war. A Hamas 297 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: wants it to be a pathway to an end to 298 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: the war. Israel wants to prevaricate on that because they 299 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: want to have the option to keep fighting if needed, 300 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: And it's really about the language that that might bake 301 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: in to that. 302 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: Agreement at this point. 303 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Israel says they will show up for further talks, 304 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: but they've also said that's going to be on the 305 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: same track as they continue their preparations for Rafa, and 306 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: so for the US in Europe and cut Her in 307 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: Egypt and others. It's really about a matter of time, 308 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: the race the clock here to try and get a 309 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: deal sealed on before Israel does proceed with Ruffa. 310 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: How much of a risk is this for Israel in 311 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 4: terms of attention Nasha relationships, because of the pressure that 312 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: they've been facing from their allies like the US to 313 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: not go ahead with this, the fans. 314 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: Of in Rauffa, well, there is that incredible pressure on Israel. 315 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: But as also have we seen throughout You've seen Benjamin Netanyahu, 316 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: you've seen other members of the leadership, the war Cabinet 317 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: and so on, really saying they're undeterred because they see 318 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: their goals as being ultimately two things. One is to 319 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: try and get the release of the remaining Israeli hostages. 320 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: But also they don't want to be in a position 321 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: where they feel vulnerable to Hamas again, and that's a 322 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: really existential thing for Israel. And so despite the many 323 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: phone calls again a phone call yesterday yet again with 324 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: the US President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 325 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: where Joe Biden said, if you go into Rafa, it's 326 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: a full offensive with civilians at stake. That's a mistake, 327 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: he said to him, those words, it is quote. But 328 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the rhetoric from Israel doesn't change, and that again because 329 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: they see it as fundamental. Of course, there has been 330 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: a hard tack to the right in politics, so Benjamin 331 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Netnio is bound a bit by members of his own, 332 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, in a circle, who are pushing him on 333 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: this front. But the reality is also is that despite 334 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: all the retoric, the US is not going to stop 335 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: sending weapons to Israel. They've made clear they want to 336 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: support Israel militarily, and so the leverage the US has 337 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: and others have in Europe and elsewhere, is arguably limited. 338 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 4: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 339 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 340 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 341 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 342 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 4: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 343 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 4: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 344 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 345 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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