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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not sure how that's taking his hate when

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Speaker 3: all you have to do is understand that I'm saying

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Speaker 3: So you took that as an insult, which is weird

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Speaker 3: But if you check the motherfucker, if you check the numbers,

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Speaker 3: what I said I gonna do, I've already done and

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Speaker 2: You got to check with my people.

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Speaker 3: You got to reach out to my people who when

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Speaker 2: What did I ask you to do reach out to

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Speaker 2: You talked the dog so boom? We did you know

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Speaker 3: Okay, now we brought up the issue with He talked

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Speaker 3: You know how much we pay our guest guess features, Buddy,

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Speaker 3: I ain't no guest feature. Well, I'm the main attraction.

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Speaker 3: What did you talk What did you talk about? I've

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Speaker 3: I'm in completely different lanes and completely different rooms from you.

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Speaker 3: Let's start them, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I think because I

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Speaker 3: and don't really understand what's being done. Over here and

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Speaker 2: And jigging at people.

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Speaker 3: Then you know Cam, he's a Harlem dude. I've been

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Speaker 3: And it was it was a sign of respect because

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Speaker 1: You did what you did, You don't you're not You

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Speaker 4: For real.

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Speaker 3: You have a show to do. You have a he

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Speaker 3: And I understand that. I understand that. But the disrespect,

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Speaker 3: Them, right, But the disrespect like that, and then you

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Speaker 3: No more on this me, What did you talk? What

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Speaker 2: But there's the difference.

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Speaker 1: But see when everybody was coming from you, like I

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Speaker 1: Whoever a podcast, pet, whoever have a podcast. There ain't

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Speaker 1: no reason for us to be beefing Joe Rogan. Ain't

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Speaker 1: They're not beefing with THEO Vaughn. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: we got issues now.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we don't. We don't have no issues.

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Speaker 4: But why we got toss while we got to address it.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you listen this call. You listen to me. This

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Speaker 2: in a respectful way.

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Speaker 3: What there's a misunderstanding because for one, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Well, can we move on now, because I think we've

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Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute. That that's what it's about. That's

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Speaker 2: We love what they do. I love what they do.

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Speaker 3: You feel me, it's a funny show them boys funny.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got our own we got our own thing.

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Speaker 2: A goddamn new house I got to decorate. Now where

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Speaker 4: We're dealing with this topic.

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Speaker 1: We've done with this, so chat, don't jump in there

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Speaker 1: But I do know there's enough room for everybody to

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Speaker 2: So I went, hold on, hold on, come on with

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Speaker 3: There's enough room for everybody to get the piece of

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Speaker 3: There's enough room for the pie, but you know who

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Speaker 1: Your door shines in his first preseason game eleven of nineteen,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and three yards passing two TVs. You know,

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Speaker 1: Coach Prime was fired up time? Yes lord, yes, Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what now? Coach Prime. God is good. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Cook brought her brother for sending us this video.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James even way then that young king. Uh looking

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Speaker 1: good out there, Shador Sanders keep going up, head down

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Speaker 1: and grind and head high to the most and head

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Speaker 1: It's early, but wow, actually shot how good he looks.

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Speaker 1: Nike Football, when you get your opportunity, create the next one.

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Speaker 4: Only matter of time, Yeah, o Jo, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We could look, we can pick two plays, oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: Well damn he missed the Sam Strong safety blitz. Well

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Speaker 1: But you saw that over oute That brock Party throws

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Speaker 1: you see him on the move throw that touch pass?

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Speaker 1: Now the receiver made a great one head to catch,

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Speaker 1: but did you see the touch?

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Speaker 4: Yes, So take off your head listen.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see what Shaud would look like in

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Speaker 3: to be prepared for a game like this, to this magnitude,

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Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks hurt?

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Speaker 2: Can you pick it? Hurt?

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco not playing so the cards that he was

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Speaker 2: Can you be a leader of men? Can you go

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Speaker 2: in calm, show a.

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Speaker 3: Presence of leadership, run the team, command the team, Show

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Speaker 3: that regardless of who's a regardless of who's around you,

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Speaker 3: you can still conduct yourself Like quarterback one. He was

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously that's what film is for, That's what

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Speaker 2: the precist is for.

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Speaker 3: The fix the nooks in the crannies to get him out.

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Speaker 3: He looked like he belonged.

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Speaker 4: He looked different he did.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Barrier, you made the right call. There's a reason

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Speaker 3: dropped as far as he did. You cannot tell me

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Speaker 3: as any scout of those thirty two teams that didn't

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Speaker 3: and we're in.

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Speaker 2: Need of one.

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Speaker 3: Watched film on Sir George Sanders and what he did

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Speaker 3: at Jackson State and we.

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Speaker 2: Did at Colorado, and said, you know what, no, that's

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Speaker 3: The quote you just read from the scout in the

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Speaker 3: AFC North. If you watch film, what did you expect

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Speaker 3: him to look like? He looked exactly like he looked

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Speaker 2: That's what he expected to see.

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Speaker 1: What they expected to see and what some hope to

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Speaker 2: Talk to me, don now hope, man.

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Speaker 1: I show hope, Man, I show hope this happens man

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see. Could he play with poise? Could

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Speaker 1: Could he go through his progressions the pocket collapses? Could

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Speaker 1: he take off? He showed me some of everything. I'm

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Speaker 1: the over route through it on time and gout in

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Speaker 1: He fit those balls ay pressure in his face. The

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Speaker 1: He fits it in, get it in, boom on the move.

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Speaker 1: The touch pass over the top. As I mentioned at

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Speaker 1: the top, the receiver did make a great play. But

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Speaker 1: your door had a nice loft. That's not as easy

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Speaker 1: to throw the mate. He was impressive tonight. Barry and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, they were in the chat last night.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what your door does. Let's see what your

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Speaker 1: door does. Well, hold on.

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Speaker 3: You know what they're gonna say now, Oh, it's the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's not playing against their starters. Oh he's playing against.

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Speaker 1: This He didn't have the starters either. Well, help, hello,

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Speaker 1: I just see Jered Judy, I didn't see Joeku. I

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Speaker 2: No send to chillman. So this is what I have

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Speaker 3: They're gonna move the gold host right, they're gonnas and say, well,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't to go against the Panther starters.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously, if he's not going.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is gonna happen when he has

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Speaker 1: What you think gonna happen where they can try to

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Speaker 1: do the gold post? But I ain't trying to kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal or pat So I'm gonna score anyway,

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Speaker 1: and shr duer Sander's score tonight, I'm gonna give credy

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we can pick a couple of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a strong safety of the Sam Strong safety blitz problem,

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Speaker 1: like you know what. But it looked like he was

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Speaker 1: telling the god bro, I need you to hook up

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Speaker 1: same thing that's not your door, s your door is

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Speaker 4: Ojo tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Tom Brady, but he has the athleticism.

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Speaker 1: That's not what he's known or go ahead.

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Speaker 3: This is then what he lacks in athleticism and inability

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Speaker 3: You can extremely well within the pocket without having to

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Speaker 2: What about the third down? The third down when he scrambled.

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Speaker 3: With the D line random stunt, he was able to

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Speaker 1: I like, you know what I like the most. He

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Speaker 1: what I like. Oh Yo, that's what I like.

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Speaker 4: Oh y'all.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I all know who's supposed to go first and

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Speaker 4: I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: I'm gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what y'all figured out in film study tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But in the mean, in the meantime, I'm about to

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Speaker 1: pick up this, I'm about to pick up the first down.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's played himself.

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Speaker 1: He might have started after four, but after this performance,

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Speaker 1: he can't be number four because he told him something

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Speaker 1: very very interesting. He says, you can't lose your job

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Speaker 1: because of injury, because let me tell you what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: If you get injured and you're out and a guy

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Speaker 1: got injured, is his job?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself with Dylan Gaber before he got hurt, was

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Speaker 1: he playing better than what you doer was than what

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Speaker 4: Okay, right?

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Speaker 3: And the thing about it, what people need to understand

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Speaker 3: have joint practices. It is one thing to practice against

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Speaker 4: Yes, scripted on.

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Speaker 3: Everything is scripted, even defensively in those joint practices at times,

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Speaker 3: because there's certain things they want to work on defensively

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Speaker 2: When you get into the game, nothing, nothing is.

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Speaker 3: Shared from team to team, so it's a green light

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Speaker 3: and everything going as if it's a real game.

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Speaker 2: You're working your scheme, your game plan, and all you

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Speaker 3: Its simplest form, as simple as preseason games are from

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Speaker 3: an offensive perspective, in the way the players are called.

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Speaker 3: And he did that tonight to a hell of a job,

442
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Speaker 3: one hell of a job tonight.

443
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Speaker 2: And this is just something to continue to build off of.

444
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: Clean up.

445
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: There were some mistakes, obviously, they're gonna always be mistakes

446
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: and things you can get better at. And as you

447
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: continue to see different looks, you're not going to get

448
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 3: many looks. Obviously it's the preseason. Everything you see defensively

449
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: will be very vanilla. You know, cover tool sometimes that

450
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Speaker 3: you might throw in, you know.

451
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Speaker 4: Man plays oo, make the plays count.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh and listen, he made him count the night

453
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Speaker 2: on that.

454
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Speaker 1: You have to do when you're a low round draft pick.

455
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Speaker 1: Oo me being a sep no bark being a being

456
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Speaker 1: a low round draft pick. Oho, you're not gonna get

457
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Speaker 1: the plays that a high round draft pick is gonna get.

458
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Speaker 4: So don't go out there thinking that.

459
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Speaker 1: But when it's your time, shine, Yes, when it's your time,

460
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Speaker 1: shine and that Hey you say I don't count time,

461
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Speaker 1: I make time count. Well, I didn't count plays. As

462
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Speaker 1: my brother used to say. Hey, I know you ain't

463
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Speaker 1: get that many reps. Keep your head up because one

464
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Speaker 1: day John Elwig gonna call for you, he gonna look

465
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Speaker 1: for you. You need to make sure you're ready. You

466
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: need to be make sure you where you're supposed to

467
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Speaker 1: be right your door. Didn't get a whole lot of reps.

468
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Speaker 1: But when opportunity presents itself. That's what luck is. It's

469
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Speaker 1: when preparation meets opportunity. Aminson said, some call it luck.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you just said what you just said.

471
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Speaker 3: You just said you didn't get as many reps as

472
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Speaker 3: you should have in practice.

473
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Speaker 2: But he got into a game, and what did he

474
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Speaker 2: do on react?

475
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Speaker 1: But the reps that he did get in practice, he

476
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Speaker 1: made those counts. Because a lot of times I've seen it.

477
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen it on Yo, I've

478
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Speaker 1: seen god. Man, I ain't getting no burn, man, I can't.

479
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Speaker 1: And then when you get out there, youfing up.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my bad.

481
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Speaker 1: Your door says, Hey, these one or two reps I

482
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Speaker 1: might get with thee the threes and fours. I gotta

483
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Speaker 1: make these counts. These gotta be my This has got

484
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Speaker 1: to be my best work of the day. Yeah, because

485
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Speaker 1: you know, whyl Cho, it might be my only work

486
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Speaker 1: of to day. So if it's my only it's got

487
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Speaker 1: to be my best because this is the only time

488
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Speaker 1: they're gonna see me on tape, they see me standing

489
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Speaker 1: behind it.

490
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Speaker 4: You know, Hey, I'm being positive.

491
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Speaker 1: A good throw, a good catch, good run, good job,

492
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: offensive line, good play call coach. But at the end

493
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Speaker 1: of the day, I need to get an opportunity to

494
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Speaker 1: show you what I can do. And when the opportunity

495
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Speaker 1: presents itself, that's what look is preparation meeting opportunity.

496
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Speaker 4: Iminson said. Some call it lucky.

497
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy. I'm happy for young Bull. I'm happy

498
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Speaker 3: for young Bull. This is one of the few times

499
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Speaker 3: I can't think of the last time that everyone was excited, excited.

500
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Speaker 2: About wanting to watch a Cleveland Browns game.

501
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Speaker 1: Did you see all them people in the stands with

502
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Speaker 1: the twelve and with the signs?

503
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Speaker 4: Did you see all.

504
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: That on yoke Cleveland Brown's game on the road.

505
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Speaker 4: Cleveland don't travel like that? Trust me. I was in

506
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: the same division with the Jokers, and guess what we

507
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: used to play.

508
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Speaker 1: Them, saying, say they don't They didn't travel like that. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: and they ain't got no reason to travel because it's

510
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Speaker 1: been bad a long time.

511
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So listen, tonight we saw a very small sample size.

512
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Speaker 3: We saw a very small sam size, yes, of what

513
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Speaker 3: your door sayers can look like the fact that he

514
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Speaker 3: played with the twos, with the threes, maybe against twos

515
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Speaker 3: and threes. Yeah, sure, say I say this to say

516
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Speaker 3: that what happens when he's with the ones having to

517
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Speaker 3: ruin that same offense?

518
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Speaker 4: Right?

519
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 1: And you and you guess what and you go and

520
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Speaker 1: you game plan. I'm just calling plays arbitrally. Oh Jo,

521
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Speaker 1: I'm not game planning. I'm not game planning because we

522
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: normally game plan game three. We go back and now

523
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: the coaches go back and they look at what they

524
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Speaker 1: did last season, and we script the game plan. That's

525
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna be what we think we're gonna see him. First down,

526
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Speaker 1: second down, third down, third and short, third and long,

527
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: just down in distance area of the field, first and goal,

528
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Speaker 1: second and goal, third and goal. Now we're calling plays,

529
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Speaker 1: not just the arbitrarilly called plays. We're calling plays with

530
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Speaker 1: a purpose, for a purpose, and eventually they're gonna get

531
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Speaker 1: to that. But I was in pressed. Look, I understand

532
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Speaker 1: it's the preseason. But for someone that didn't get as

533
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Speaker 1: many reps, made the reps that he did get, he

534
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Speaker 1: made them count in practice.

535
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Speaker 4: And when he got his opportunity to, when the opportunity.

536
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Speaker 1: To presented itself, he took full advantage, Tom Brady, opportunity

537
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Speaker 1: presented itself.

538
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Speaker 2: Would you say, when the rubber meat the what when the.

539
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Speaker 1: Rubber meat, the road man and so, uh your door?

540
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: He should he should be proud of himself, Uh you

541
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Speaker 1: know him being who he is, raised how he was raised.

542
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: I supposed to say, Reard, I guess you raised livestock

543
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and animals, But anyway, be raised.

544
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Speaker 4: How he was raised. He's not gonna be.

545
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna be, he's not gonna get he's not

546
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Speaker 1: gonna get too because of guess what even killed.

547
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean you got to stay even killed.

548
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: You know why, because not only having to deal with

549
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: the noise on the outside, that's one thing, but now

550
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: you got you got to deal with the noise on

551
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: the inside, especially with the owner coming out just last week.

552
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Speaker 2: And that wasn't my pick. Yeah, that's not what I wanted.

553
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 4: How you do it?

554
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: Make sure Andrew Barry gets all the credit, like you said,

555
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Speaker 2: brother has him.

556
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Speaker 3: Don't smile, don't don't even don't say anything, start with

557
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Speaker 3: ass he said that.

558
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Speaker 4: Don't you say the nerve the gall I'm a Paul, Well,

559
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 4: I'm a David.

560
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it what won't time. And this is

561
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: for everybody in the chat. If even if you don't

562
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Speaker 3: like you do it, even if you.

563
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: Don't like him. How do you watch film.

564
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: College film on Shador Sanders and every other quarterback that

565
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: would before him and see what all.

566
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: Of them are done and say, you know what, now

567
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm a pass for him.

568
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: That's not the guy I want right New Orleans Saints,

569
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers.

570
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what other teams that were the need

571
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: of a quarterback? How do you do it?

572
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm just asking from a person that played the game

573
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Speaker 3: of football and understanding.

574
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: I have an eye. I have an eye.

575
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: I played the game for a very long time at

576
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: a very high level. I'm not saying I'm a scout,

577
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: but I know it's supposed to look like in situations

578
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: that are not advantageous for you. I just saw a

579
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: young fella winning Jackson State turned a Colorado pro around

580
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: that when one game, regardless of what his record was

581
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: in his totality twenty three and twelve, whatever may have been,

582
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: I know what it can do.

583
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: When you got the right pieces around him. I know

584
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: what he can do.

585
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: He's a win nerd regardless of what situation you put

586
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: him in. And he showed it again to night, yet

587
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: again to night.

588
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 4: What is back up.

589
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Against the wall?

590
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just has the demeanor to be a quarterback.

591
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: Nothing seems to impact him. He doesn't get too high,

592
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't get too low. He has the utmost confidence

593
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: in himself and most the good ones really do no

594
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: matter how bad and we've seen it, no matter how

595
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: bad it might be going. The really good ones, you know,

596
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: if it's laid the ballgame, they got.

597
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: A chance to beat you.

598
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your doors in the situation where it's like

599
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: doesn't make any excuses, and he always says the right thing. Listen,

600
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Speaker 1: it's not as easy as you think to always say

601
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: the right thing, because you're dealing with the human element.

602
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: Of it, the human element of it.

603
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: No matter how much you have, no matter how little

604
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: you have, no matter how good you've been, no matter

605
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: how bad you've been, You're dealing with the human element

606
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: of it.

607
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: And people have emotions, people have feelings, and so.

608
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes when people lash out and say things like damn man,

609
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: you know you take the amount of time.

610
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: But he hears what's being written about him. Absolutely he's

611
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: he hears, he sees. If he doesn't, he's getting work.

612
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: It's getting back to him.

613
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: But I just love the way the man kept his

614
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: head down, closed off his ears, and just did what

615
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do. He went to work. And

616
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: that's how you that's how you have to approach it.

617
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Don't get mad. I ain't trying to prove y'all wrong.

618
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to prove me right, and in the process

619
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Speaker 1: of proven me right, I'll prove you wrong.

620
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Speaker 4: It was. It was a great job. It was his

621
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: first outing. Like I said, those throws, it was the throat.

622
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't so it was it was the throws that

623
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: he made.

624
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, go back and take a look at that

625
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: overball and we see brock Party throw three or four

626
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: of those game to Iu, can you used to hit breath.

627
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: Devot on those plays?

628
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Speaker 1: You'll kiddle on the over look at how you threw

629
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: that ball, the timing of it.

630
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: Do you do you do you understand the anticipatory skills

631
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: you have to have as back with pressure coming at you.

632
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: There was one, there was one. There was one overthrow

633
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: he couldn't even see.

634
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because on the replay we couldn't even see him.

635
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: We just saw the ball come out.

636
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: So he's anticipating where the receiver was gonna be and

637
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: he just made it throw and put it only where

638
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: the receiver could catch it.

639
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: Yep, that first down.

640
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: You understand when people saw tonight, I don't think they

641
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: understand how difficult the game is.

642
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't think they understand how different the game is.

643
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: But he made it look like he's been doing it

644
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: for a very long time.

645
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: It's his first time, it's his first time in the NFL.

646
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: Game, but he's used to it. Chat Look at his mannerisms.

647
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: Look how you walk on the first down, Okay, he

648
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: almost did the watch it breaks. He said, you know what,

649
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the.

650
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Time, but it ain't time yet.

651
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: And just just everything about him and being quarterback number one,

652
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: just the way he carried itself.

653
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: He was ready for the moment. No matter what they

654
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: no matter what they did, no matter what they said.

655
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Just put me in a situation.

656
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: Just hand me the cards, give me the hand, and

657
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it. And he did that just just

658
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: exactly how we should deny the hand he was dealt.

659
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: He played the hand very well, and it's only gonna

660
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: get better from here. It doesn't go backwards. You don't,

661
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: you don't digress.

662
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited, and this is coming from a Bengal fan,

663
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 3: excited for the Browns to finally maybe have to answer

664
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position after trying thirty five times over

665
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: the years. You know, I man, listen, man, I can

666
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: go on and on about this, but go ahead, you

667
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: got it.

668
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: I think the thing is the biggest thing. And then

669
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: after they can have.

670
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Is the ability to believe that he belonged, he or

671
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: she belongs. I was a seventh round draft pick. She

672
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: do it was a five. There was twelve rounds when

673
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I was a seventh. There are seven rounds. He's a fifth. Yeah,

674
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: but there is not one point in time that I

675
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't feel I belonged on that field. I saw a

676
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of these guys at the bowl games. I saw

677
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: these guys that combined, and I read about them, and

678
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: I remember I remember calling my brother at each West

679
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: Shrine grad. I said, they do not better than me.

680
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: They're not better than me. I don't care what they say. Yeah,

681
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I remember going to the combine and that man, I

682
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: you know what you think you're read? I say, probably

683
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: post six four seven. I said, but they're not better

684
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: than me. They might be faster than me, but they

685
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: not better than me. I belong in the NFL. And

686
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: when I went to Denver, all those guys that went

687
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: before me, I'm like, I ain't no what. I remember

688
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: asking myself, how in that hell did you get drafted

689
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: before me? Yeah, I said, but don't worry about it.

690
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. I said, it won't be long.

691
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: It won't be It was like the cat. Well, girls,

692
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: she say, boy, the cat got his tail caught in

693
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: the washing machine. You know what he said, O Joe,

694
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: He said, it won't be long now, he said, she

695
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was talking about. His tail wouldn't

696
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: be long anymore, or it would be long for it

697
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: all be over, yes, sir, yeah, man, And when we

698
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: put them pants on, ohoe, Yeah, first, I'll never forget

699
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: because you know, the rookies, we went to camp before

700
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: the vets, so we would go like a couple of

701
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: days before the vets, so we would already be practicing

702
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: right in Denver before we headed up to Greeley.

703
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: Right, I saw him.

704
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: They was nervous, o Joe, like a long tailed dog

705
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: with a porch full of rocking cherrys. You know, somebody

706
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: lean back and go be able to take you, don't

707
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: bother about now. I saw they were nervous. I said,

708
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's that's all I need to see, just

709
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: a little fear, just the little fear in the man's eyes, because.

710
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: That's my that's my greatest ability. Yes, another man's fear.

711
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.

712
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: I like it.

713
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: And listen, I know we've been talking about your door.

714
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: But listen, remember I told you. Remember I remember what

715
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: I told you about the panthers. Right, yes, remember I

716
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: told you about the panthers. If there's a if there's

717
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: a dark a chat. Stay with me real quick. If

718
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: there's a dark horse team that I believe in this

719
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: year that is going to creep up and maybe make

720
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: it run at the playoffs, I said it would be

721
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 3: the Panthers. They didn't look bad. Bryce Young didn't look back.

722
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: Jayllen Kober went crazy tonight. T Matt the rookie from

723
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 3: Arizona looked good tonight.

724
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: I know, executive like it. Go'll thrown out getting into

725
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: a little tussle. Listen, I love the passion. It's just preseason.

726
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: That's fixable. That's fixable.

727
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 3: But again, look how the Panthers look early in the game.

728
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: For those I know everybody tuned in to wash your door.

729
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, and I said at first,

730
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: someone that's that's not much of a Panther fan, didn't

731
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: play for the organization.

732
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: They owe me nothing.

733
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm telling you the dark horse team for this season

734
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers, Bryce.

735
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: Young and that receiving hord. I'm telling you what.

736
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: Oh Joe, I ain't never been that hot in in

737
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: the preseason game.

738
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: No, the tussle they were going at it.

739
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't really got no tuzzle in practice, bro, Because

740
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Dan Reeves gonna say, you fighting.

741
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we ain't working hard enough. Mike Shanahan said

742
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: the same thing. Ain't working hard enough. Bro, It ain't

743
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: like it is now, Bro them two hours two and

744
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: a half hour practice.

745
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: Man, please with pats.

746
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: And you had on paths and oh let me take

747
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: that back, o Joe. You have on they call it.

748
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: See what they call shells would show the paths in shorts.

749
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: It's not shells like they call it now. Basically got

750
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: those little little fitted of styrofoam stuff on that was

751
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: not shells. When when I got in the nineties, shells

752
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: would show the paths.

753
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: And shorts shorts.

754
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and you know we hit that they were

755
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: we hit back then Nine on seven was live.

756
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

757
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Team team was a solid thud up. It wasn't no

758
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: touch the guy on his like a two hands touch.

759
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, you put shoulders on him, you put pads

760
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: on him.

761
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: You bet you better come to you better come to

762
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: balance and be ready.

763
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: I remember Dennis Smith, we call him Kahuna and at

764
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Water man, they come down in that box.

765
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: Boy.

766
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 4: We had thumpers back then.

767
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, please, Atwater ain't played with at Water

768
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: coming downhill now and.

769
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Atwater, wasn't the thumper like then Dennis Smith, Kahuna was

770
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: the thumper number forty nine.

771
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa more than water?

772
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: Yes, Les, yes, lord, oh Joe.

773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I saw that Joe a at two o five two ten,

774
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: I saw him sit lineman, sit linman on the ass.

775
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: They pulling. He ain't never go low right up. That

776
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 4: showed in their chest and set him.

777
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: Down at ten at two ten.

778
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Here go back here if y'all can find it, go

779
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: back and check the tape.

780
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: He hit Roosevelt Potts. They both ran. He pots come

781
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: through the hold.

782
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: He hit him. He was out cold.

783
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Uh, Marrion Butts. Hey, if you if you're a Charger fan,

784
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: you know who. Because back then, o Joe, they had

785
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: a big old, big running back. They had big Marion Butts,

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: they had Rod Bernstein. They have a big Joe Carravello,

787
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: big Joe Cox. I mean they are the tight ends

788
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: were like three hundred pounds offensive line, mammoth offensive line.

789
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cohuna run through.

790
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Go back and look at that play with Dennis Smith

791
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: hit Uh, he hit Marrion Buts and he hit Roosevelt Potts.

792
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know who else was the Thumber two.

793
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: Remember Donovan Darius.

794
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I played against d D Double D at

795
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: UH at Jacksonville.

796
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: But that was back back in the nineties. You had Chuck.

797
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Cecil, you had Mark Mark Carrier from Chicago. Boy, back then,

798
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't no nothing defenseless about back. They said, you

799
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: got him and the shoulder pass. What the hell you

800
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: thought was gonna happen? You come across the middle?

801
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're gonna get that work. What you're gonna

802
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: get that work? Rodney Harrison, Oh, ro Rod come with

803
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: all four home every time.

804
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: Hey, I say bro, he say Shaw, just stay out

805
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: my knees. I say, got you. But boy, we tried. Boy,

806
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: we definitely try to hit each other in the mouth.

807
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Hey, that's a hard playing joker. Oh, Joe.

808
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: The biggest story I know is football. But the biggest

809
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: story that we've had in a very very long time.

810
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Portland Trail Blazer's head coach Chauncey Billups in Miami Heat

811
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Garry Terry Rogier were arrested by the FBI in separate

812
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: gambling pros this morning. Phillips arrest is related to an

813
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: illegal poker games tied to the Mafia. According to ABC News,

814
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: WOA tied to the Who, the Mafia, uh if Red

815
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: collect the Bonano, the Gentlevie's, the College Umbio, the Columbia Colombo,

816
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: and the Lukeses. But anyway, assistant coach Tiago Splitter would

817
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: take over for Phillips as Portland New inem coach. Rogier

818
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: is accused of being part of a gambling ring that

819
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: used inside information to make illegal wagers. According to ABC,

820
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: Rosier and Phillips are just two of the names arrested

821
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: in a wide ranging prole called Operation Royal Flush. They

822
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: need to stop that started four years ago. Two indictments

823
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: have thirty four defendants listed. The indictment allegens that Rosier

824
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: told associates he was going to take himself out of

825
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: games during the first quarter on March twenty third of

826
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three against the Pelicans so others could bet

827
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: the underprop bets. This information was sold to others so

828
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: they could also profit. There was a two hundred and

829
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: fifty nine thousand that was wagered on Rosier by a

830
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: group of people with inside information. According to the indictment,

831
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Roger laid under ten minutes in the game. Billips took

832
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: part in a rig poker game in Manhattan. According to

833
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: the FBI, how do you how do you rig a

834
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: poker game? Well, Oho, according they had X ray machines

835
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: built in the tables, so when you lay the cards

836
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: face down, I can see what your hole cards are.

837
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Now I could play contact lenses through glass that read

838
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: marked cards, So you know, Oh, that's the ag that's this,

839
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: that's the secret cameras in card trades. Billips is also

840
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: alledged to have provided inside of information on the Trailblazer's

841
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: injury while team was tanking at the end of twenty

842
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: twenty three season. Former NBA player Damon Jones was also arrested.

843
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: Jones sold information on the Lakers game so others could

844
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: bet on it. According to the indictment, Jones is a

845
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: close friend of Lebron James, who did not play in

846
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: the game in question. The Lakers were named in the

847
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: investigation during the press conference defended in the NBA gambling

848
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: clip case. Has been charged with conspiracy to commit wirefar

849
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundry.

850
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Hey man, listen, man boy, this this is this is big.

851
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: This is huge.

852
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: This is listen. This is like an episode of law

853
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: and order.

854
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: You hear me?

855
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: One, Okay, I understand the gambling part.

856
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: Yes, what grabs me will grabbed my attention is the

857
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: fact that the mafia is still prevalent in today's society.

858
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Not oh listen, I know they ain't never went nowhere, right,

859
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: but they're never visible their presence as opposed to the

860
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: seventy to eighties.

861
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: That's what the real mob does. They're not flashy, yeah yeah,

862
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but they have they have reputable businesses. It

863
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: haves trucking, and they have cement companies, and they have

864
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: delivery services, so they have legitimate businesses to hide behind

865
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: the other things. And people ask, why do this? Is

866
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: why the NFL and the NBA puts out all injury reports. Okay,

867
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: So therefore, because if they didn't put it out, and

868
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: guess what people know, I can get part of that

869
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: information and in what it looked like that what happened

870
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: in the Damon Jones situation.

871
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: He gave them the information before it.

872
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Came out, so they bet before everybody else knew Lebron

873
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: James was a scratch, they had already got the money.

874
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: So now the line is gonna come down, but they

875
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: already got in on the other it's just, oh, let

876
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: me tell your story.

877
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: Oh here go ahead, wait, let me let me get

878
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: comfortable now, because your story has been good.

879
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: This ahead.

880
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: This is why I stopped going to going. We used

881
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: to have the same thing. We had a We had

882
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: a we had to play craps. Yeah, go every Monday night.

883
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: We would go. At first, it was just just guys.

884
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: On the team. Yes, former player that was that. Everybody knew.

885
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: I knew him a long time, yes, sir uh. And

886
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 4: so we would go over there. We would roll dice.

887
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: Everybody month's friend.

888
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: You know.

889
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: We led somebody money.

890
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: The thing was, I wouldn't lend you money, so you

891
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: can bet against me what I look like giving you

892
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, and then you're gonna fade me right right,

893
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: right right, You're gonna fade me with my own money. No,

894
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. But anyway, okay, they started letting

895
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: other people come in.

896
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 4: Oh oh strange other people come came in because we

897
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: didn't care, hey bray.

898
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: At first, if we used to have like ten packs

899
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: of ten packs of dice.

900
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: And sometimes you get holl on the dice.

901
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: You keep the dice for like five ten minutes and

902
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you put the dice in your pocket, say, hey, man,

903
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: these my special dice. I don't want nobody else to

904
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: touch these, right right right well, and behold they let

905
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: other people. They start letting other people come in out, like,

906
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: but who is you?

907
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: Man? I know such and such?

908
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: Oh lord, this no time they came in there with

909
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: some damn trick dice.

910
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Huh man. They came in there with them crooks with

911
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: a loaded dice. And the thing was, O joe. The hardest,

912
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: the hardest points on the dice to hit is ten

913
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: and four because there's only two ways you can make it.

914
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: You can make it five five or you can make

915
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: it six four.

916
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same thing with four you get three to one,

917
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: you get two two, you get flowers, or you get

918
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: a little jo kokomo.

919
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: So that's it, man, that joker throw the dice.

920
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: It rolled ten, So you know ay, so you know, hey,

921
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: everybody go jump on that ten.

922
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: You ain't finn to hit that ten. Hey, I'm gonna

923
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 4: tell you something I don't know. Chad.

924
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: If y'all ever gamble before, but if you want to

925
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: break up a dice game, hit ten of four out

926
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: of saw cars down, exchange hands out of saw a

927
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: lot of ish happen with that ten of four on.

928
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: But anyway, he came out. He hit ten, so you know,

929
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: everybody jump on it. Hey, you know, jump on it

930
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: with both feet. Two You ain't finn to hit that, right,

931
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: So he took a cool two hundred two hundred off meat,

932
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: you know.

933
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, damn.

934
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I said, let me come back, let me come back.

935
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: He rolled a four back to bed, He rolled a ten.

936
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: He kicked the ten O Joe the.

937
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: End was hitting it out the door, So I say,

938
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: what there?

939
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: So I only go over there with like twenty twenty

940
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: five hundred right right right? The dice game up hit

941
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: for about thirty what thirty? What thirty thirty bad? You

942
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: gotta realize it's like fifteen twenty of a sudden. There

943
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: we all NFL players, so we all got red or

944
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: guys would go to the ATM and get money and

945
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: come back.

946
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: Oh a, y'all some was up man.

947
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Oh, Joe didn't know, So I tell my homeboy Burns.

948
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: He had gone out of town because at the time

949
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Michelle was in Virginia. So bye week, you know, not

950
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: a bye week, but he would go home. So he

951
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: would leave that Monday go home, stay Monday night, come

952
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: back Tuesday. Because a lot of times we didn't have

953
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: price we win. We didn't have we didn't have no meeting,

954
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: we have anything.

955
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: Just get back. Wisday right right right.

956
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, he was catching the red.

957
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: I get homes early money in the morning. But anyway,

958
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, man, burn, you ain't gonna

959
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: believe this. I said, dude, broke the game up. He

960
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: said what he said?

961
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: What he was here?

962
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: I said, dude, we had a dude named Reggie, Reggie Hayward.

963
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: He broke the game up. He had the dice for

964
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: like an hour. I ain't never seen nobody getting down hot,

965
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: but it was legit. He had the dice for an hour.

966
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: Every point on the dice he hit, he was seven

967
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: out the door. He lud A that four five? Hey,

968
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: you was talking about burning fifty four died in sixty three.

969
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: What's my point? Na ya yay, gotta hit it, yah,

970
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: y'all what Jesse James Carrey forty five?

971
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: Hey?

972
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: Hey?

973
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 2: He rolled four?

974
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: Him and Smith? Why out the door?

975
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Stayed on the dice for an hour, I said, burns,

976
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: old boy ten and folk had the dice just like that.

977
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

978
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: The next week, the guy house that he was at

979
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: was at he would roll the dice had two grand

980
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: out there, everybody had it.

981
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: He crapped out. He picked the dice.

982
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Up and threw them. They split open. Oh oh, now

983
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: you can see where the weight was. So I go,

984
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't hear about this till the next sold. This

985
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: is a little Monday. They start calling me, man sharp,

986
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna believe this. I said, what man, man

987
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: boy had crooks?

988
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: I said, ye had. He had to wait.

989
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: The dice like, yeah, man, what you think we should do?

990
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what y'all gonna do. I

991
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do nothing because I'm gonna go to jail.

992
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: So I said, look, I'm done. From that point, I said,

993
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm done. I told said, birds, if you want to go,

994
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: He like, you ain't going. I ain't going. But anyway,

995
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: and I started, I look, boy, look here. I started

996
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: to get the dude that vouch for him. I knew it,

997
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: but he we've been cool. You vouched for him, you

998
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: vouched for him, You got the cover here. But anyway,

999
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: dude brought a brand new brought a brand new Maximum

1000
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: get it.

1001
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 4: Out first, a new gear.

1002
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: That's what stopped me from doing That's what stopped me

1003
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: from doing the house game. I got it first of all,

1004
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: it's got to be like us. It got to be us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1005
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: no all. I ain't talking about no Harmbley. I'm sorry,

1006
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh yo, your homeboy, Your homeboy

1007
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: can't play everybody me, you, x y z We and

1008
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: a bell player boot. I believe we're gonna be on

1009
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: the up and up, but somebody come to the game.

1010
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: They know it, they know it's money gonna be there.

1011
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Ye're gonna come in and cheat. The card game the

1012
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: same thing. That's what happened with the online poker. Guys

1013
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: had had the online poker. He had he had the

1014
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: uh you know, it's what they call it. But anyway,

1015
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: he's he he they can see your.

1016
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 4: Cards, so he get crazy.

1017
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: Technology is so advanced. Listen the part that scared me young.

1018
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: I understand Charncey in trouble. I understand Damon Jones in trouble.

1019
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: I understand Terry Rozier for one. I'm not risking it.

1020
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm not risking Listen that I'm in risking it.

1021
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Huh, thank nobody. A lot of this stuff happened in

1022
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: twenty three. It's twenty five. Oh tell you the o Joe,

1023
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: what criminal you know? Make a score and said, I'm done?

1024
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 4: I quit.

1025
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: Well you can't, but you understand when the FBI get

1026
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: it holy in that the FBI they watch it for.

1027
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: They don't let it run. They gotta wait till they

1028
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: get you.

1029
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I can't get you with one charge because

1030
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: you buy your first time of you're gonna get off.

1031
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: I got to get you deep.

1032
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure the hook is set, you got it.

1033
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Gotta build up, they gotta bild up this.

1034
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: This is scary, right.

1035
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: You gotta set the hook because if you don't set

1036
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: it right, a big one gonna get away.

1037
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, But this is the part that scared

1038
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: me though, right like understanding, understanding, Okay, I understand the

1039
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: gathering part. It's the part about being part of the mafia,

1040
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: being entangled into it. Man, listen, that's a no note

1041
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: for me right there. Off back, I don't see any sopranos. Yeah, yes,

1042
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: I done seen Good Fellas. I know it's a depiction

1043
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: of of of a fictional story maybe, but that's real life. Yeah,

1044
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about extortment I'm thinking about once you tied

1045
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: into them, man, that's you.

1046
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: Now you've got a point shade. Now you've got to

1047
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: feed them. Information is what I hate most. Look and

1048
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: I know you listen. I know Chohncey Billis since he

1049
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: was in high school. He went to G Dove in Denver, Colorado,

1050
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: which was about a mile from where I was staying.

1051
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: I used to stay in the breakers. Anybody from Denver

1052
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: know exactly whether breakers are on Mississippi and where? And

1053
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: the uh and where G Dove is? The car wash

1054
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: used to be a Sterling car wash right across the street.

1055
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Chohncey Billis went to G dub. He was sensational, sensational,

1056
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: three time mister Basketball All State all year. So we

1057
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: get that, and so I feel bad for Chauncey u

1058
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: uh uh and I oh, I hope this is what

1059
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: they suggest.

1060
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: But my thing is and I hope this is just.

1061
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: But damon Jones, do everybody knows what Lebron goes through

1062
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: to try to make sure he has no staying No,

1063
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: because what did they put in the paper?

1064
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: They put Lebron James. This man has done.

1065
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Everything he possibly could to keep his nose clean, to

1066
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: make sure he doesn't have the people. Look, Maverick, he

1067
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: grew up with. Rich he met at a very young age.

1068
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Randy he grew up with, So he's insulated himself. Lebron

1069
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of close friends. You see him,

1070
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: you gonna always see Randy. Randon is his sheep of staff.

1071
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: Rich is his agent. Obviously, Maverick handles all the other

1072
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: business inquiries. You put this man in a spot because

1073
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: it's a legend that you sold information that Lebron is

1074
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: not gonna play before it became public. Not And they

1075
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: say they have a text message of something between the two.

1076
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: I just I just hate.

1077
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: I just And obviously the funny thing about that Lebron

1078
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: doesn't know. I mean them them exchanging message, him letting

1079
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: them know. That's like me texting you we finna play

1080
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: the Raiders, but I'm not playing like that's that's no harm,

1081
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: no foul on Lebron part, because he had no idea

1082
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: what's going on exactly.

1083
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1084
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: So, but but the one thing, and when I was

1085
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: talking about about them being dealing dealing with the mafia,

1086
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: understanding these these people have no regard for life once you're.

1087
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: In business with them.

1088
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: That means you got the aldways once they got I

1089
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: need all the answers I need, who's playing, who's coming out,

1090
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: what's the score line gonna be? And what happened when

1091
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: you get it wrong? What happened when you mess up?

1092
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: What happened when when you you you place a bet

1093
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: and you give him certain information and it doesn't come

1094
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: out the way it should and they lose money?

1095
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: Well, all of a sudden you say you're not gonna

1096
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: play it. Then all of a sudden he plays, he

1097
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: a game time and he end up playing.

1098
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: Hold on, what about this? Once you in, once you

1099
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: in with them like that? What about you know what?

1100
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this no more.

1101
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: I don't want I don't know, I want to do

1102
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: it no more.

1103
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: And it's reported that the like he got twenty five

1104
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: hundred dollars so on a fifty thousand dollar bed.

1105
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: I think it was a fifty thousand dollars bed. Wasn't

1106
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: it fifty thousand dollar? Bit? How much?

1107
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't it was over one hundred thousand? They gave you

1108
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred, Now what what?

1109
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: Hold on?

1110
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: They didn't even give you ten percent? They gave you

1111
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: two percent?

1112
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: What the hell?

1113
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do with that, Hey, oh Joe.

1114
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's two billion, I'll take ten, I'll take

1115
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: two percent. But not no, damn one hundred thousand. Nah,

1116
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: absolutely not, I just absolutely not. Hey, Hey, I'm listen.

1117
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: I understand the gambling part right, And the gambling part

1118
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: to me because I've been in that lifestyle. I don't gamble,

1119
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: y'all know my cheap bask noa gamble, I'm saying. I've

1120
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 3: just been in that world for so long and seen

1121
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: so many people gamble, yes, sast thirty years.

1122
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: The part that is that has me stunned and it.

1123
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: Is amazed, is, boy, you're dealing with the mafia.

1124
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: I think. I think people just like letting it go

1125
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: and they hell they read it.

1126
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: Damon Jones, Chauncey, Chauncey and goddamn Terry Rosier is the

1127
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 3: only one that's on the goddamn news.

1128
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Well where's everybody else? What the other thirty name? I

1129
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: got to get the one? Oh Joe, let me ask

1130
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: you a question. When the last time you see somebody

1131
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: post a fish that was this big? They post the

1132
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: trophy fish. They are the trophies.

1133
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you you lose, you lose your job,

1134
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: you lose your career.

1135
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: But you know they're still gonna be making their money.

1136
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they ain't gonna but you know, you know,

1137
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: you know it's not gonna stop, absolutely not.

1138
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: Bro.

1139
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: Look here, and I used to gamble I did.

1140
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: I mean?

1141
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: I used to come to Vegas and gamble I on

1142
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: the plane we played you know, we used to play

1143
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: tonk and we used to play in between. Yeah, pots

1144
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: get up to five ten, twenty thousand, thirty thousand.

1145
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: Dollars American money. Yes, maas shit boy, y'all man, y'all

1146
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: tripping man. Man.

1147
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 4: Look, I took a car for Gud.

1148
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: I felt bad for him because I know if he

1149
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: had to go home, we're gonna get a divorce. He

1150
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: had he had arresto chavel or fifty four Right, black beautiful,

1151
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: you took the pink slip, said, man, give me give

1152
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: me three grand call of the day.

1153
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: Uh, y'all were betting called pink slips.

1154
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 4: Hey, he got to be got in a hole and

1155
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: that's what happens. Oh yo, he was in the whole. Hello.

1156
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: That was a story out here about a dude name.

1157
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: I think his name is Jeffrey Wantonaby lost two hundred

1158
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: and four million dollars lost his family fortune. Read it,

1159
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: go read about it? Uh two hundred, don't read about

1160
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: it a chat?

1161
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 4: No, his name was Terry. I think his name was Terrence.

1162
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 4: Want nabi a chat?

1163
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: Somebody send that to my instagrams or my Twitter please?

1164
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: I got I got to read that. How do you lose?

1165
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: Did you see the movie The Gambler?

1166
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 4: Yes?

1167
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Yes, like I didn't know people had issues like that

1168
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: where they're addicted to gambling.

1169
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Gambling, Yeah, alcohol, drugs. Yes, it's an addition. It's it

1170
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: in endorphins. It's a high, it's a rush.

1171
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: How do you you lose twenty and fifty thousand? You

1172
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: go to the shark and ask for more money too?

1173
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 2: Oh?

1174
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 4: Hold on? Read that a lout? Say what?

1175
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: He was ash two hundred and forty million?

1176
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

1177
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: At what point do you say stop? Or what point

1178
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: do you say No? I lose twenty dollars, I'm gonna

1179
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: lose my mind?

1180
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was up, but see Harr's the thing, Oh Joe,

1181
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: same thing. There was a guy named Arnie at the Benyons.

1182
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: He was up, he was up fifty million, lost it

1183
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: all back. He had every five thousand dollar chip that

1184
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: was in the hotel. The hotel used to have to casino,

1185
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: used to got to come to his room and get

1186
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: the chips because he had them all.

1187
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: He lost it all. You know, I don't understand.

1188
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: I just I cann't.

1189
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: I can't grasp the concept I understand gambling. Listen, I

1190
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: really can't talk now because I just started. I just

1191
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: started playing a little black jack myself. Every time I

1192
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: go to Vegas. I don't go to Vegas often, but

1193
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: they go to the black jack table. You know how

1194
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: much I spend. I take two hundred dollars out of

1195
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: a tim I paid a twenty five dollar hands. Yeah,

1196
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: when that two hundred dollars gone, Man, I'm hurting and

1197
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 3: it's only two hundred dollars. And now you you saying

1198
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: these extraordinary numbers. How the hell you lose two and

1199
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: forty million?

1200
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: When you get down, you try to get it back,

1201
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: because let me tell you how it happens. Okay, I

1202
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: lose fifty, Hey, I lose fifty, better hundred to try

1203
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: to get it back. Now I'm down one hundred and fifty.

1204
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: So guess what I got to do, o Joe. I'm

1205
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna bet two hundred because I'm gonna get all three.

1206
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the two hands that I lost, and

1207
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be plus fifty and before you know it,

1208
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: now you've been in twenty five fifty, one hundred thousand

1209
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: a hand. So how long will it take you? Because

1210
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: if you go on to rush, you're going to run.

1211
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: You could pack. Hey, go back and look. I think

1212
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: it was the MGM, h carry pack with it. What

1213
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: was his daddy name?

1214
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: Packard? He was an Australian billionaire.

1215
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Go read but what he did, what he did to

1216
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: the MGM and how he erected quarterly report, he wrecked it.

1217
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: Yes, when he won, he went on a run.

1218
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: He won, Yes, big time.

1219
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: But lady that was that was serving him. She would

1220
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: bringing him you know his you know, smooth as a

1221
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: water or whatever it was. Right, go get your mortgage.

1222
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay it off for you. Oh he was

1223
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: talking spicy.

1224
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: He did it?

1225
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Carry Packard is yeah, yes, damn Jim, think about it.

1226
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: I know all the stories.

1227
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, gambling. Gambling is an addiction.

1228
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: Uh, absolutely, And listen a lot of people say, stop acting.

1229
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: Na. See there's certain things that I don't know about.

1230
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: There's certain things that I don't know about because it

1231
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: was never It never sparked my interests. That's not something

1232
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: that that. It ain't like soccer. I could take you about.

1233
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: I can talk about boxing, I talked about tennis. But

1234
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: but gambling him.

1235
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: I just started. I just started playing black jack this year.

1236
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was a whale. Those are what they

1237
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: call whales. What did the guy used to be a pinhouse?

1238
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: Uh?

1239
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: One of the guy on pin house?

1240
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1241
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: He was in the wheelchair.

1242
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh damn, I forgot his name.

1243
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 4: I met him one time on.

1244
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: He own hustler.

1245
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, damn, I.

1246
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: Forgot his name. I met him. I met him in La.

1247
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: He passed away. He was a where Larry Flint, Yeah.

1248
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: Mister mister Flint.

1249
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: That's right, man Flint. Yeah, but oh show.

1250
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: The thing is is that, look I played a couple

1251
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: of hands and you know, hey, hey, you know I.

1252
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, how how much you how much you

1253
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: were better? Now I don't mean to be your business.

1254
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 4: But oho, we was at the rio. We was at

1255
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 4: the rio, okay, and it was me.

1256
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: Seven thirty fifty three and crop pot it was us. Yeah,

1257
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: so we're playing So I had like twenty five thousand

1258
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: on me. John John was playing. John was so I

1259
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: had you know, I've won, and he was playing. So

1260
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: he get a card he split, so he got so

1261
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: he split them.

1262
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: Then it was another o the same.

1263
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Cards he split that we had about he had about

1264
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: six cards that was split and then he ended up

1265
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: doubling down. We had like forty thousand on the table

1266
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: and the dealer bus he took all mine because if

1267
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: if the dealer would have hit all my little twenty

1268
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: five thousands gone.

1269
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: He's like, give me your money.

1270
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: I look, wow, whoa hold on? Hit?

1271
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: You mna give you my money?

1272
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: What kind of bull job? Ask?

1273
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: But we won?

1274
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: But it's a oh, ain't nothing like it. It's nothing

1275
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: like sitting there. You played five thousand or ten thousand

1276
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: dollars a hand and then you get black jack. Oh

1277
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: you got tell what gets scary oyo? What gets scary

1278
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: ojo is that when you get a double down hand

1279
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: and you got the five thousand or you got ten

1280
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: thousand on the wood.

1281
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now when you gotta double dad, when you gotta

1282
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: double down hand, you got ten thousand on the wood.

1283
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: What that means you double your money?

1284
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: You doubling it, so you gotta put ten thousand ten

1285
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: more with it, no double it, or you split it.

1286
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: You gotta put ten. Guess what happens on Joe. You

1287
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: get a double down hand, Yeah, you get a split,

1288
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: you get a split hand. So let you get say

1289
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: you get a pair of eights or a pair of

1290
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: nines against a seven or below. Yeah, you're gonna split them.

1291
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: Now you get a three, a two or three. Now

1292
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: you doubling that. So now that's twenty thousand. Now you

1293
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: get this head, you get a split, you get a double.

1294
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Now you double that.

1295
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty thirty forty, that's forty thousand on the wood.

1296
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it ain't worth and you hit me it ain't

1297
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: worth it because I want I'm thinking about the loss.

1298
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the loss. You can't think like that.

1299
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: So you can't go to the table because you can't

1300
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: look at the CHIPS's money. You look at them objects.

1301
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: Now moment you look at him as money, get up

1302
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: from the table.

1303
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: Hey for for one, for one.

1304
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: Unless you make the kind of revenue and you have

1305
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: disposable income, Yeah, shouldn't be gambling, no way.

1306
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you have disposable income. I don't care NFL players,

1307
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't care how much out if you got a

1308
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: fifty eighty million dollar contract.

1309
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: Your ass shouldn't be at no goddamn crap table or

1310
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: playing backjack or no no ro tissery or none of that.

1311
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the what's the one going the circle again?

1312
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 4: What it's called? That's roulette.

1313
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm about rotis about that's a that's a league. That's

1314
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: a gambling league. But anyway, I know what you meant.

1315
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: And plus the new thing now is Backarrock read the

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: field live his story.

1317
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 2: Few ivy famous. I know that name.

1318
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 4: I know he'll he'll a poker player.

1319
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: I know his name.

1320
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: But they went, they went, they went overseas him in

1321
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: a a in a Chinese lady.

1322
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, read about that story. It's good or bad?

1323
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: Uh uh? Well, he won, but they fought because the

1324
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 4: lady could count cards. You can see the imperfections.

1325
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: M hm.

1326
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, that gambling man is, oh Joe. Why

1327
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: you think people be watching the game. You think they

1328
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: really be liking these teams? Some people do. I got

1329
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: fantasy and I got real money. You messing up my party.

1330
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: That's why they call you the N word. That's why

1331
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: it because then you suck. That's why they say you

1332
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: worse than the Hitler. Bro you lost me my money.

1333
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: What the hey?

1334
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: If you can't stand and lose your money, you don't bet,

1335
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: you don't you don't bet.

1336
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: Where you suck man. I'm telling you, Joe, and.

1337
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, that's that's fascinating. It's fascinating hearing the stories,

1338
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: it's fascinating.

1339
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: But I can't put myself in.

1340
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: Position to put my money where I have no control

1341
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: over where that I win and lose.

1342
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

1343
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

1344
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: The house don't let you win. I'd have heard enough

1345
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: horror stories that stay right.

1346
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: You got to be able to see the thing, the how,

1347
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: the reason why the house wins so much. They can

1348
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: weather the storm because guess what, o Joe, if you

1349
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: start winning too much, they'll ask you to leave.

1350
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's enough, mystery, that's enough, mister Johnson. No

1351
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 4: what what you know? You think you? We think you have.

1352
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: You've done enough for tonight.

1353
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: The question is, when you win, can you get up

1354
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: on your own leave because they don't usher you to

1355
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: when you lose it, they don't ask you to leave.

1356
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Can you ask yourself to leave when you lose? When

1357
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: you start, can you leave when you start to lose.

1358
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: Listen this, o Joe, this is what happened. Excuse me,

1359
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: this is what happens in the game and space.

1360
01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean hey, can you imagine?

1361
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: How do you even I'm still stucking them off your

1362
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: part because I understand how.

1363
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: That can end you.

1364
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: Put yo, You're not just putting your life in jeopardy.

1365
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: Everybody get close. They play for keys.

1366
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Now, hey, man, I ain't got man who what you

1367
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: know that there's a there's a certain excuse me, we

1368
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: speaking of gambling. Now, excuse my lack of knowledge. I

1369
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: might be wrong. The greatest player, the greatest basketball player

1370
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: of all time. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, segregrated.

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01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, he's a big gambling Yes, yes, he

1372
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: like yes, yes.

1373
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: Now if now you see where I'm going.

1374
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to say it without saying it because

1375
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: you lost someone very close to.

1376
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 4: Him, but everybody know.

1377
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, there are a lot of

1378
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: people that lost because they chood next to him and

1379
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: feel they got the gambling as much as him. Here

1380
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: the logo, he ain't got to play no more basketball,

1381
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: and he's still gonna get. He gonna get you know,

1382
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: three hundred four hundred million, and he ain't you would

1383
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: last time I could joint dribble the basketball.

1384
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: But see, you do not understand what I'm saying. Didn't

1385
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: he lose somebody closest to him?

1386
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: Yes, based on.

1387
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so you get where I'm going with it. Yes, Okay,

1388
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: see how that's what the reports believe that it had

1389
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: something to do with that exactly.

1390
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: Which is why I don't understand how Chauncey and Damon

1391
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 3: and Terry would even Yo, you're part of who gambo who?

1392
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

1393
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: I can none of that information because at the minute

1394
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: it don't go right, and you can't get to me.

1395
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: You're going to the next closest thing to me.

1396
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't don't want.

1397
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't want that.

1398
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: So that's you know, and and and and reportedly the

1399
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: n b A investigated Terry Rogier and clarity. That's the

1400
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: problem that you got. Yeah, they investigated him last year.

1401
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we briefly touched on bill and they cleared it.

1402
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: Now you see why the NFL. See that's see, that's

1403
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: why you can't do it, o Joe, because guess what

1404
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: these gaming companies they want to be able to bet

1405
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: with the NFL at MLB.

1406
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: So they're gonna turn in. Yeah, absolutely, they're.

1407
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: Gonna turn in because hold on, wait a minute, he's

1408
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: just a guy, and why are we getting all these

1409
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: problems bet coming in on him?

1410
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: And he just oh no, they'll pull it off.

1411
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 2: The board, man, please, goddamn.

1412
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: I look, in situations like this, O, you, you gotta

1413
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: just take your medicine, and and and and and and

1414
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: I just I hope it's not true. I look, I

1415
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: don't really know. I don't really know anybody.

1416
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: The FBI does not come and get you until they

1417
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,520
Speaker 3: have enough evidence to convict you.

1418
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: Well, I can hope, won't your damn you know, hope

1419
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: the people in the people in hell hope they can

1420
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: get some goddamn ice water.

1421
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: Is it coming? Absolutely not.

1422
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: I I'm hoping, well, you know what, I'm hope with you.

1423
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I just I just you know, oh ya, I'm just saying,

1424
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, you don't think. You don't think,

1425
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: oh ya, you know how we're wired. We think we're

1426
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: invincible because think about oh yo, this was twenty twenty

1427
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: three when this was going on.

1428
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: It's twenty five. Oh you dinver forgot about that. Oh no,

1429
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: they don't forget about nothing.

1430
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 4: Now.

1431
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, Oh Joe, you remember your grandma and

1432
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: your mama said, Boma. My grandma said, by I'm gonna

1433
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: tell your tailor when you get home about two three

1434
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: hours go by. Oh she forgot about that. The next thing,

1435
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, she's shutting down on you. Why what what

1436
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: so bad? I just boy, this is this is boy.

1437
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 1: They're about to get They about to get real real

1438
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: real right straight? But that but that no, but that's

1439
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: that's the problem. That's why you see these fans when

1440
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: when their team, what's the first thing they say, Man,

1441
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: you messed up my parlt you messed.

1442
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: Up my fantasy. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I'm not thinking

1443
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 4: about your fantasy. I think about it.

1444
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: I lost us the game.

1445
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were fantasy.

1446
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: They worried about that money.