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Speaker 1: Either you're with us or you were with the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: If you've got healthcare already, then you can keep your plan.

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Speaker 1: If you are satisfied with Trump is not the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States, take it to a bank. Together,

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Speaker 1: we will make America great again. We'll never sharender. It's

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Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton, with

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Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. The Donald on the world stage, President United States,

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Speaker 1: traveling abroad for the first time in his presidency. As

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Speaker 1: good ones. I should know. Buck sex in here with

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today. Obviously, Trump's big international trip,

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Speaker 1: President Trump is there today. And then we've got updates

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Speaker 1: how it was a good speech. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: good speech. He did use the term Islamist extremism instead

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Speaker 1: dance and all this other stuff, um, that certainly sends

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Speaker 1: to keep it from becoming a sectarian issue as much

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Speaker 1: sixt of Iraq roughly is Sia, and it's maybe in

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Speaker 1: terms of Arab, sixty percent she Arab, and maybe I

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Speaker 1: think about thirty percent Sunni Arab and then or Sunni

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Speaker 1: rest is a mix. So it is a big issue.

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Speaker 1: playing out before us in a volatile region of the

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Speaker 1: world with a tremendous amount of oil reserves. And also,

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Speaker 1: of course, because all it takes is to get on

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Speaker 1: in this region become a major terrorist threat outside of

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Speaker 1: the region. So we can't just nor it as a

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Speaker 1: security threat. And now with the Internet, you have radicalization

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Speaker 1: going on in the United States, your radicalization going on

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Speaker 1: in Europe where people have never even set foot in

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Speaker 1: this chie hottest ideology. So yeah, we're we're doubling down

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Speaker 1: with the Saudias, Um. But that that's going to uh,

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Speaker 1: am sure, um. The saudiast State, as I said to you,

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Speaker 1: the the stability of the Saudi state right now looks

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Speaker 1: quite secure. But if you go back to Egypt around

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Speaker 1: and you said, well, everything looks good here and Mubar's

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Speaker 1: got this thing under control. It wouldn't have been long

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Speaker 1: that that's for me. That the major policy takeaway is

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Speaker 1: just that Trump is shoring up the Saudias as the

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Speaker 1: main bulwark against Irani and expansionism. Um. But that does

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Speaker 1: look a bit like we are, whether we choose to

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Speaker 1: or not, taking sides in the massive sunny Shiah fight

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Speaker 1: that's going on right now in the Middle East. So

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Speaker 1: there will be policy implications from that, my friends. All right,

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Speaker 1: I want to switch gears and talk a bit about Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into Israel. I think more later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. Actually, um Man, we'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about it. Now, we'll do Israel, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk Mike or General Flynn. And then I've got some

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Speaker 1: other fun stories, including some fake news, some actual fake

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Speaker 1: news from over the weekend, um and all kinds of

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Speaker 1: Stay with me. I am breaking news to share with

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Speaker 1: you all. Uh. It's unfortunately, uh, the nightmarish breaking news

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Speaker 1: Is in the UK. There's an Ariana Grande concert that

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Speaker 1: an explosion at Manchester Arena. There are a number of

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Speaker 1: confirmed fatalities and others injured. Please avoid the area as

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Speaker 1: first responders worked tirelessly at the scene. Details of a

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Speaker 1: casualty bureau will follow as soon as possible. That's from

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Speaker 1: the official Greater Manchester Police account. So it seems very

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Speaker 1: right because on the one hand, there are clearly eyewitnesses

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Speaker 1: who are sharing information about what they what they've seen

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Speaker 1: should they just happen to be wrong on some of

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Speaker 1: as this would seem, people like to just make things up,

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Speaker 1: and we're not sure until we get greater confirmation of

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Speaker 1: what happened here. But it looks very likely um, that

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Speaker 1: there was a terrorist attack of some kind at Manchester.

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Speaker 1: It is not confirmed. I cannot report that that has happened,

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Speaker 1: but we do have the Manchester Police saying there are

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Speaker 1: reports of an explosion and there are confirmed fatalities. So

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Speaker 1: people are dead outside of Manchester or at the Manchester

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Speaker 1: Arena at this Ariana Grande concert. That much we do know. Um,

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Speaker 1: this certainly seems like it is an intentional incident terrorism,

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Speaker 1: although until we get further details, I don't know much

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Speaker 1: more about it. Well, nobody knows more about it right now,

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Speaker 1: who's following it in the news media. But it looks

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Speaker 1: like we have again breaking news here of a possible

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Speaker 1: terrorist incident, an explosion with confirmed fatalities at the Manchester

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Speaker 1: Arena and Ariana Grande concert that was going on there. Um,

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Speaker 1: we will have more for you as as we go,

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Speaker 1: um throughout the show here, I'll be watching this very closely. UM,

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Speaker 1: there will be some tell tales I would assume very

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Speaker 1: this then takes this is perhaps a place where we

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Speaker 1: can transition into what do we do about all this?

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Speaker 1: This is what President Trump said in Saudi Arabia about

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Speaker 1: Je Hottest terrorism and their ideology. There can be no

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Speaker 1: coexistence with this violence. There can be no tolerating it,

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Speaker 1: no ex acepting it, no excusing it, and no ignoring it.

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Speaker 1: Every time a terrorists murders an innocent person and falsely

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Speaker 1: invokes the name of God, it should be an insult

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Speaker 1: to every person of faith. Terrorists do not worship God,

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Speaker 1: They worship death. In fact, that's a very apt description

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Speaker 1: of jihad. To studiology and the philosophy of of jihad.

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Speaker 1: There is a occult of martyrdom, and it's it's different

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Speaker 1: in in the In the Christian conception of martyrdom, we

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Speaker 1: remember this from being in Jesuit school and going to

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Speaker 1: Catholic school for many many years before that. We think

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Speaker 1: of martyrs as people who willingly give their lives for

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Speaker 1: their faith, meaning they will not renounce the faith and

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Speaker 1: they will be um or they have been executed, even

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Speaker 1: burned at the stake, killed us as levers. In the

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Speaker 1: Gee Hottest conception of martyrdom, you try to kill as

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Speaker 1: many other people as you possibly can as you give

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Speaker 1: your life. Uh, this is a this is a very

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Speaker 1: important and very um worthwhile to note distinction. So how

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Speaker 1: we fight against terrorism going forward? I think that the

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration is taking a very well any administration

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Speaker 1: would take a close view of this, right and this

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Speaker 1: is just a first step with Saudi Arabia. This trip overseas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest with you, the analysis of

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Speaker 1: a president's overseas trip really outstrips the policy impact that

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Speaker 1: it has. For the most part. Um, this is a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is for the photo ops and the optics,

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Speaker 1: but some of those, some of those photops and optics

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Speaker 1: are pretty profound. You have President Trump's President Trump visiting

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Speaker 1: the the Western Wall in Jerusalem, for example, I believe

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Speaker 1: the first president to do that. That is there is

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Speaker 1: symbolism that everybody forgets in a day, and then there's

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Speaker 1: symbolism that will remain for quite a long time afterwards.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this, particularly Trump's trip in Israel,

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Speaker 1: will fall into the latter category. Um, but this may

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Speaker 1: turn into um that he may be dealing with terrorism

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Speaker 1: in a way that he as as a policy matter

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Speaker 1: that he had not anticipated on this trip. Based on

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Speaker 1: again that breaking news that I was sharing with you,

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Speaker 1: there is a it is confirmed that there was an

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Speaker 1: explosion and an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester in the

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom, and it is confirmed that there were fatalities.

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Speaker 1: We do not know the cause of the explosion. We

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Speaker 1: do not have more details right now. But the immediate

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Speaker 1: that that sounds like terri terrorism, a crowded public venue,

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Speaker 1: fatalities and explosion. UM. But then again, I do always

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Speaker 1: try to sound a note of caution in the reporting

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Speaker 1: here in Times Square. It would not have been a

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Speaker 1: stretch at all to assume, well, this is similar to

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Speaker 1: in and in UK and in London, um with a

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Speaker 1: vehicle attack. But no, it was just a crazy It

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Speaker 1: was just a crazy person. Without people say, well, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what's the difference between a crazy Why do you say

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Speaker 1: this that's just a crazy person or somebody who's lost

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Speaker 1: it versus you know, Islamic terrorism is something to be

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Speaker 1: more afraid of. Uh Well, Islamic terrorism is part of

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Speaker 1: a broader movement, a broader ideology that seeks to destroy

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Speaker 1: Western civilization. A crazy person is just somebody who's decided

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Speaker 1: because they have a disconnect firm reality or they've had

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Speaker 1: some sort of a breakdown, But they're not doing because

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Speaker 1: they think they're gonna bring down Western civilization and they

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Speaker 1: infrastructure for their acts online and in countries all over

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Speaker 1: the Muslim world. That's that's why there's a distinction, and

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Speaker 1: it is a difference. It matters, um, But that incident

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Speaker 1: was not terrorism. So I want to be cautious on

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Speaker 1: this until we have more details about what's going on

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Speaker 1: at this area in Grande concert. Um. We got to

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Speaker 1: talk about General Flynn coming up here next. The Freedom

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Speaker 1: Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out with Team

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Speaker 1: Buck anytime. Plus get Buck's latest news and analysis go

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Speaker 1: to buck Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com.

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Speaker 1: The Buck is back just because Donald Trump is away.

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Speaker 1: Just because our president is tending to business abroad does

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Speaker 1: not mean the media narrative is going to in any

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Speaker 1: way slow down when it comes to Russia collusion allegations,

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. That's now at the heart of much

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Speaker 1: of the reporting, and of course the fate the future

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Speaker 1: of General Michael Flynn, former National Security advisor for a

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Speaker 1: very short period of time in the Trump administration. He

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Speaker 1: I think he is the way that they can turn

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Speaker 1: liability for the administration. That's Flynn is the key. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what they're focusing in on here. Um. But

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Speaker 1: first I got it, there's a Washington Post story. Trump

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Speaker 1: asked intell We'll get to Flynn in a second. Trump

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Speaker 1: asked intelligence chiefs by this joke, Oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: just broke. I'm we're breaking news for you everybody. This

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Speaker 1: this story. I thought maybe was was up a little

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Speaker 1: earlier today and somehow it had evaded the buck radar,

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Speaker 1: last hour, so I have It was so interesting that

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Speaker 1: the day you almost get the sense it's like that

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Speaker 1: to the prime time news networks that are that are

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Speaker 1: the heart of the anti Trump resistance. So they want

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Speaker 1: to they want to feed you know, Rachel Mattowen, Anderson

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Speaker 1: before they go on air, to make it more exciting,

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Speaker 1: more exciting viewing at night. I don't know, it does

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Speaker 1: seem just maybe it is just a coincidence, But it

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Speaker 1: times that those who listen to the show, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it'll say, well, we got big breaking news here, and

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Speaker 1: you know lost their their favorite sharpey and it was

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Speaker 1: guy myself. I like all dogs for the most part.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the story. Pardon me for the complete

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Speaker 1: non secretary there, Trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back

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Speaker 1: against FBI collusion probe after Comy revealed its existence. I

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Speaker 1: got to read to you a little bit of this

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Speaker 1: and then we will dive into together. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: even gotten the latest on Flynn yet. Here's all preview

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Speaker 1: that I'm I'm word the general. The General's got some

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Speaker 1: some rough stuff ahead. That's my my guest, that's my

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Speaker 1: assessment right now. Okay, hold on, here's in the Washington Post. Though.

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Speaker 1: President Trump asked two of the nation's top intelligence officials

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Speaker 1: in March to help him push back against an FBI

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Speaker 1: investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government.

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Speaker 1: According to current and former officials, Trump made separate appeals

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Speaker 1: to the Director of National Intelligence, Daniel Coates, and to

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Speaker 1: the and to Admiral Michael S. Rogers, the director of

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Speaker 1: the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the

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Speaker 1: existence of any collusion during the election. Coachs and Rogers

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Speaker 1: refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed

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Speaker 1: to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials,

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Speaker 1: who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private

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Speaker 1: communications with the President. Uh Trump sought the assistance of

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Speaker 1: Coates and Rogers after FBI Director James Comey told the

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Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee on March twenty that the FBI was

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Speaker 1: investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there

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Speaker 1: was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: this is uh, this is gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 1: attention now this. There are a few, a few quick

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this that I have, right because this is

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm I just read this in the

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Speaker 1: break and now I'm sharing with you. This is the

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Speaker 1: latest salvo anti Trump. Salve with the latest anti Trump

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Speaker 1: barrage from the Washington Post. Here it is. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're they've got Nixon on the on the brain,

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Speaker 1: my friends. They think that the cover up is where

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Speaker 1: they're going to get the Trump administration. And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe there was an initial quote crime with

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Speaker 1: the collusion. Well not that you should put quotes in

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Speaker 1: the crime, you know what I mean. But I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that there was an initial act here. But if

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Speaker 1: the White House isn't careful, um, they're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: real real trouble if the House falls into Democrat hands

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Speaker 1: in uam, which I think there have to be, twenty

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Speaker 1: four seats would have to switch switch signs, Um, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's not impossible. If the narrative becomes that Trump

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Speaker 1: engaged in obstruction and enough people believe that, or if

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Speaker 1: it looks enough like that happened, and Trump loses the House,

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Speaker 1: he may not get removed via the Senate's procedures, but

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Speaker 1: he may get impeached, which would be bad. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good. Now. I know that's a ways down the line,

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Speaker 1: and I'm jumping a whole bunch of steps, and I

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Speaker 1: understand that, Um, but this, this is, this doesn't look

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Speaker 1: good for the administration. I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that that's not too suggest that I believe

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Speaker 1: it necessarily that this is accurate. If it is accurate, though,

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Speaker 1: can we just state that this president has very few

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Speaker 1: people that he can trust around him. And those who

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Speaker 1: were saying that Trump needed to bring in uh political

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Speaker 1: experts instead of trusted loyalists, well, you know Obama was

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Speaker 1: surrounded by people who were loyal to Obama in the

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Speaker 1: White House. You did not see that was a say

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Speaker 1: what you will about his terrible policies and the destruction

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Speaker 1: at home and around the world during the Obama administration.

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Speaker 1: That was Um, that was a White House that was

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Speaker 1: disciplined when it came to no leaks. You did not

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Speaker 1: hear disparaging leaks from within that White House. You have now,

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis, senior officials who seemed to be

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Speaker 1: Unless you believe that the New York Post, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post in the New York Times are just lying.

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Speaker 1: But you have senior officials who will share their communications

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Speaker 1: with the President United States in the Oval Office, with

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Speaker 1: the press. How can the president conduct his business? How

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Speaker 1: can the president trust in the council of those nonpartisan

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Speaker 1: actors who are part of the executive branch. We're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be helping the president defend this country, protect its interests.

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Speaker 1: Um how can he trust them when he keeps seeing

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Speaker 1: these leaks in the papers. I know that there will

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Speaker 1: be some pundits and analysts, some folks out there who

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Speaker 1: will just say, well, you know, it's all lies. Do

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Speaker 1: we know that. I don't know that. I can't say it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they do lie. Sometimes when they

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Speaker 1: do get it very wrong, they get it egregiously wrong.

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Speaker 1: In fact, later on in the show, I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you about a time that they got it very uh

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Speaker 1: quite obviously wrong. But um, that doesn't mean that they

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Speaker 1: get it wrong every time, and Trump in any way

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Speaker 1: trying to influence members of the executive branch to push

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Speaker 1: on the FBI's investigation even if there's no underlying issue.

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Speaker 1: This is, by the way, why I am so opposed

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Speaker 1: to the Special Council, because that just takes for a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff now goes behind closed doors, so we

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Speaker 1: won't even know very much, Which means that the media

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Speaker 1: machinery of Trump collusion speculation, it plays a much larger

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Speaker 1: role in all of this. And I think that the

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Speaker 1: pressure for there to be convictions that are process convictions

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Speaker 1: of lower level people along the way becomes very high.

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Speaker 1: They so you know the Scooter Libby effect, if you will.

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Speaker 1: But here we have yet another He had another story

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Speaker 1: from the Washington Post saying that Trump did this, and

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Speaker 1: then you have the New York Times. This is this

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Speaker 1: stuff is coordinated. We all get that, right, And there's

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Speaker 1: there's no way that these stories aren't being timed with

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Speaker 1: each other and with the in the news cycle to

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Speaker 1: create maximum damage to the administration. Uh and and foster

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Speaker 1: the kind of political pressure that really creates problems. Um

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Speaker 1: that that that causes a jump in public outrage at

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Speaker 1: the administration, and that also makes the Republicans and the

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Speaker 1: Congress start to get a little well wimpy about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what they're gonna do. So this is the

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Speaker 1: new So the Washington Post got its peace saying that

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Speaker 1: Trump and then it just broke again breaking news from

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Speaker 1: the last hour here that Trump asked intelligence chiefs to

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Speaker 1: push back against the FBI collusion probe after comb he

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Speaker 1: talked about it publicly, which they're gonna say, of course,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know the full context here. In context

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Speaker 1: is very important in these discussions. It's you can't really

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Speaker 1: know what's going on unless you have the context. Um.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't look the story doesn't look good. You can

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Speaker 1: tell me it's fake news. You can tell me you

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Speaker 1: don't trust it. Fine, But this is another one of

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Speaker 1: these stories that's going to get a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: play in the media and a lot of traction. And

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Speaker 1: I think, um, I think the mainstream media believes that

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Speaker 1: they can just wear wear down this administration. Um. They

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Speaker 1: there must be people in some of these newsrooms who

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Speaker 1: think that they will get Trump to resign. And if

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Speaker 1: they make it miserable enough for him. He will just

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Speaker 1: say I've have had enough. And look, man, I I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. I mean, I like a

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Speaker 1: good I like a good and righteous fight when when

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Speaker 1: the time comes. Um, but man, if I were a

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Speaker 1: billionaire and a nice family and I go hang out

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Speaker 1: of a play a lot of golf and you know,

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Speaker 1: read books and hang out, that's at seventy that's what

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Speaker 1: I'd be doing, I would not be So I I

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Speaker 1: give Trump a lot of credit for that. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have to do this. And I know there's

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of theories out there that, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's because he's a megalomaniac and he's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: crazy or whatever. But I don't know. Um it is.

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Speaker 1: It is not fun to be in Trump's role. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's the The Washington Post has a story about

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Speaker 1: the intelligence chiefs pushing back against collusion. Then you got

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Speaker 1: Mike Flynn. And here's what the New York Times says.

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Speaker 1: This also from today, a little earlier today, Um, Michael

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Speaker 1: Flynn misled Pentagon about his Russia ties. This is now,

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Speaker 1: this is from a Democrat. This has been put out

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Speaker 1: their publicly, and the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.

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Speaker 1: So it's politicized, as we all know. But here's what

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Speaker 1: it says. Michael Flynn, President Trump's former national security advisor,

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Speaker 1: misled Pentagon investigators about his income from companies in Russia

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Speaker 1: and contacts with officials there when he applied for a

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Speaker 1: renewal of his top secret security clearance last year. According

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Speaker 1: to a letter released Monday by the top Democrat on

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Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee, Mr Flynn, who resigned twenty four

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Speaker 1: days into the Trump administration, told investigators in February sixteen

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Speaker 1: that he had received no income from foreign companies and

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Speaker 1: had only in substantial contact with foreign nationals, according to

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Speaker 1: the letter. In fact, Mr Flynn had sat two months

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Speaker 1: earlier beside President Vladimir Putin of Russia at a Moscow

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Speaker 1: gala for RT, the Kremlin finance television network, which paid

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Speaker 1: Mr Flynn more than forty five thousand dollars to attend

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Speaker 1: the event and give a separate speech. His failure to

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Speaker 1: make those disclosures and his apparent attempt to miss lead

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon could put Mr Flynn in further legal property.

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Speaker 1: Intentionally lying federal investigators is a felony punishable by up

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Speaker 1: to five years in prison. Uh. Look, also, I also

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Speaker 1: got to put this in the not good category, and

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of uh he said, he said

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Speaker 1: on this because I'm familiar with these forms. I had

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Speaker 1: a top secret clearance. I get it, you know. You um,

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Speaker 1: you go through this whole process and it's all uh,

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Speaker 1: it's all on the record, right. You go through this

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Speaker 1: process and there's a lot of paperwork, so now you

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Speaker 1: get you know, it's It's one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I left the government. I mean, there's just

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Speaker 1: so much of this stuff that you have to do

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Speaker 1: and deal with, and if you really think about every

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Speaker 1: single page you sign and deal with, you you're never

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Speaker 1: going to sleep at night because the moment you become

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Speaker 1: a political target target either within your own agency or

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Speaker 1: I can't speak the military side, but I have friends

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Speaker 1: that have told me stories that are pretty terrifying about

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Speaker 1: when the military wants to make an example of you

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Speaker 1: for process reasons, usually about clearance stuff or whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: it is not fun, it is rough, and you go

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Speaker 1: through all this and it doesn't have the inten The

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Speaker 1: intended effect, of course, is for counter espionage reasons, and

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Speaker 1: they think that this will be. Well, it's that's the

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Speaker 1: whole purpose of the security cleans process, right to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you are one trustworthy and too you're not

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Speaker 1: a foreign spy or being run by foreign spies. Um,

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Speaker 1: if Flynn, I can say this to you. If Flynn,

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Speaker 1: if there was a box that said have you gotten

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Speaker 1: any foreign money on Flynn security clearance forms and he said, nah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten any foreign money. I I that doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound good to me. And I know that we are

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Speaker 1: in a mode here where it is a siege mentality

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Speaker 1: for this White House. The media is being constantly unfair

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Speaker 1: to this White House and everybody in it. I get that,

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Speaker 1: and I try to be completely uh fair to the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration and am an advocate for the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: openly at the same time. Right, So I'm I'm out

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Speaker 1: in the open about that. I I am pro Trump

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Speaker 1: White House. Let's go, let's strain the swamp, let's do

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Speaker 1: all these things that they've been talking about. But if

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Speaker 1: Flynn's signing his name to stuff under penalty of perjury,

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Speaker 1: that is very inaccurate. Um. I know people are gonna say, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you know, come on service country honorably and everything. I agree,

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you this, some much lower level

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Speaker 1: person that did this would be in big trouble, big

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Speaker 1: big trouble, if if, if what I anyway, Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta in a break and run along here eight

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Speaker 1: four two five? What do you think these? Uh? These

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Speaker 1: double this double hit piece here from from two different

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00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: or you know this uh hitting them at both ends

855
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: here from the New York Times, the Washington Post. New

856
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: York Times saying Flynn lied and maybe in legal jeopardy

857
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: on his forms, and the Washington Post sang that Trump

858
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: tried to get Intel chiefs to shut down the Russia

859
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: probe or push back on it. Home, I hit a break,

860
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, team back. I just want to

861
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: update you on the breaking news, terrible stuff out of

862
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom at the Manchester Arena and Ariana Grande concert.

863
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: There are multiple deaths, m many wounded as well. Thousands

864
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: of concert goers fled a what has been reported as

865
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: a large explosion, a massive bang. And so certainly seems

866
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: like we've got a bomb here and um no more,

867
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: no addition, all details beyond that right now. But uh,

868
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: if if this isn't terrorism, I I don't know what

869
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: it could be. Um, so we shall see. We will

870
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: stay on this. Also, I did not mention before and

871
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: I mentioned Michael Flynn. General Flynn has invoked his Fifth

872
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Amendment privilege against self incrimination, so he will not be testifying.

873
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't invoked the Fifth. And of course those who

874
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: believe that Flynn is guilty of something are saying, see,

875
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: he's guilty, and it doesn't help. But I believe there

876
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: was a tweet from Flynn a while back saying that

877
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: only guilty people plead the Fifth. So that's not that's

878
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: not great, that's not great. Look, there are some people

879
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: you can listen to. We're gonna tell you everything Trump

880
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: does is great, no matter what, and everything around him

881
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: everyone does is amazing. I know this is a street fight,

882
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna tell you that during the political

883
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: street fight, you know, when one of our guys takes

884
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: a hit, like hey, he didn't even feel that. No,

885
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: this is bad, this is not This is Michael Flynn.

886
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the member of the Trump administration that is

887
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: that is fed to the fed to the beast here,

888
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: so to speak. I am I I would be concerned.

889
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: I am concerned. Um, I think he's a he's a

890
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: good man with a with a fantastic record of service

891
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: to his country, who may have made some mistakes, and

892
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: those mistakes will be magnified because of the press, and

893
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: they may call for him to pay a much heavier

894
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: price than he would have otherwise. We'll see. I don't

895
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: have a crystal ball here. Maggie and Mississippi w b V.

896
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: What's up, Maggie, Hey, hey, thought, how're you doing today?

897
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm all right, you know, it's a kind of a

898
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: it's a it's a nasty rainy day here in New

899
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: York City and a lot of a lot of rough news.

900
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm okay. I guess it's mask

901
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: and raining down here. But anyway, my my comment is

902
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: about this this whole um Trump asking me intelligence uh

903
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: people that to to push back on the Russia probe.

904
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: Why did it take two months for this to come

905
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: out rather than come out immediately? Plus not only that,

906
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: if Trump did, wouldn't that be considered a felony? Impeding justice? Um? Um,

907
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: impeding justice? Obstruction and justice? Yeah? Yeah, I you know,

908
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good on the laws for a guy who

909
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: never went to law school. Um, obviously, obstruction is a crime.

910
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Uh so does it constitute obstruction. It depends on the

911
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: context of the conversation. And there's a difference between inappropriate

912
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: and illegal, you know, and I hope that we can

913
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: all keep in mind that that's a very important distinction.

914
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: Um but I it's just like the same thing with

915
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: asking Lynn or asking UH call me to to I

916
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: hope you've dropped. Yeah, I know, I know. It's a

917
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: sim is a very similar kind of discussion, a very

918
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: similar place in the argument. Maggie, you ask excellent questions

919
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: for which I don't have clear or readily available answers.

920
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: But let me think on it, and thank you for

921
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: calling in Shields High and team. We're gonna be back

922
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: in just a few blug Sexton with America. Now the

923
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Freedom Hut is fired up as Team Buck assembles shouldered

924
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: as shoulder Shields High. Call in eight four four d Buck.

925
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: That's eight four four to eight to five. Welcome back, Team.

926
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: We have Lucian Wintrich on the phone. He is the

927
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: White House correspondent for Gateway Pundit. He's a political artist

928
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: and commentator. Lucian, thank you so much for giving us

929
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: a ring again. Thank you for having me. Um so

930
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: so you say, I see this is up on the

931
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Gateway pundit dot com that you quote over here, white

932
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: House reporters disparaging Trump. This is not surprising, but oh,

933
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: I want to hear the d else. I mean, it's

934
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: it's incredible. I mean, and this has happened, This is

935
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: going on before nearly every single briefing. The reporters are

936
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: trashing the President, trashing the press secretary um. I mean,

937
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: and then they go off to their radio shows or

938
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: they write their articles and pretend that they're going into

939
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: this without bias. I mean, you know, some of these

940
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: reporters will will out of re scoff while the conference

941
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: itself is even going on. I mean they're they're actually

942
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: it's it's children, It's it's kind of amazing. And when

943
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: you know you have reporters that are all congregating in

944
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: this fashion, I mean, the echo chamber effect is very

945
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: real on campus, meaning that professors know that if they

946
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: don't take a certain line, that others who are their

947
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: peers are going to look down upon them, criticize them,

948
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: even ostracize them. I assume in the White House, in

949
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: the West Wing, it's the same deal for those correspondents

950
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: and reporters Oh, I mean's absolutely They're they are part

951
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: of a very smart little cartel and none of them

952
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: have stepped out of line. They'll basically pay attention to

953
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: what these White House Correspondent board members are saying to do,

954
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: and everything they write, everything they ask is going to

955
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: be a reflection of that. It's humorously transparent. What do

956
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: you think about the reports that there's gonna be another

957
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: shake up that what was it previous? Ryan's previous and

958
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: Bannon I think went home early from the big foreign trip.

959
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: We know that Sean Spicer's name has also been tossed

960
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: around as possibly being replaced in the near future. Is

961
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: that just uh? Is that the press corps as gossip

962
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: columnists or is that is that for real? In your estimation? Yeah,

963
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I didn't know what to think

964
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: at first, because I I do tend to read a

965
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: lot of their focus reports. But I currently do have

966
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: it on good authority that a lot of this is

967
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: just nonsense. The media is trying to spend um there.

968
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: Everything is highly highly exaggerated. There aren't gonna be any

969
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: huge shake up or well whatever they're claiming. And I've

970
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: talked to specific members of the administration who I won't

971
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: name who, Uh yeah, who say it's just absolutely ludicrous

972
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: with their printing. Do you get the sense at all

973
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: that some of the reporters feel like they have and

974
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: and what I mean, I mean specifically those who are

975
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: covering the White House and are in the West Wing

976
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: and engage in these press briefings. Do you think some

977
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: of them do they ever express any misgivings about being

978
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: so clearly one sided and dedicated to to ending Trump's

979
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: time in office? I mean, they it seems to me

980
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of them just want him out and

981
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: anything short of Trump either resigning or being impeached and

982
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: removed will be insufficient for some members of the press. Um,

983
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just it's kind of amazing. You know,

984
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: since day one, since he started, they have had that

985
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: exact same attitude that they're just trying to look for

986
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: any um, non existed smoking gun to try to get

987
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: Trump out of there. Uh. It's I think they're going

988
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: to be very disappointed that that's absolutely not happening. Um

989
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: all these all these accusations against Trump, against the administration

990
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: are just so wildly inaccurate, and you know, half of them,

991
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: half these things that they're acting, Uh if they're the

992
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: most egregious things they've ever heard. Um, happened tenfold under

993
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: the Obama administration. Is there anything that you think is

994
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: not getting enough attention right now that is either that

995
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: is a White House agenda item that are there policies

996
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: that are being other discussed or pursued. I mean, you know,

997
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: if it wasn't just all Trump Russia and o' flynn

998
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: is asserting his Fifth Amendment privilege, what would people be

999
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: talking about down there? You know? I I really think

1000
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: the concentration right now should remain on the on the

1001
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: budget and what's going on in Congress with the budget.

1002
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean that that is something that will affect every American. Um.

1003
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: And that's that is what a lot of people I

1004
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: think are more interested in than these uh steaks scandals

1005
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: that the mainstream media keeps coming up with every other

1006
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: or day. UM. I mean they they their job ideally

1007
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: is to actually report on policy and things that do

1008
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: affect average Americans. Can you shed any light on the claim?

1009
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: I see this in the Hill dot com that info Wars,

1010
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: which is the website and platform of Alex Jones, was

1011
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: approved for White House Press credentials. M one day pass

1012
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: is what I'm reading here. One day passes, not a

1013
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't it's not hard to get, right, No, those

1014
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: aren't that hard to get. Um, it's it's sort of

1015
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: part of a a sort of longer longer I guess

1016
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: effort to get full credential in that actual process takes

1017
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: anywhere from a half year to a year. So yeah,

1018
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: Info Wars right now they're on daily passes. Those are

1019
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: really not that hard to get. Um. I haven't. I

1020
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: haven't met their new uh correspondent yet, but I'm I'm

1021
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: excited to Hey. I mean, I will say as many

1022
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: as many people who aren't part of the mainstream media

1023
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: in that room, the better. I think it's already having

1024
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: a good effect just having other reporters actually keep tabs

1025
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: on these uh partisan hacks who are turning out false

1026
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: stories day after day. We're speaking to Lucian Wintrich. He's

1027
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: the White House correspondent for Gateway Pundit. You can read

1028
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: his latest at the Gateway Pundit dot com. Uh. When

1029
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: do you think it becomes too much with this press corpslution?

1030
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: When do you think, uh, is there a point at

1031
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: which the people running the various news bureaus and news

1032
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: organizations will say, you've got to make it seem a

1033
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: little less hostile, or is just is hostility good for ratings?

1034
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: And so deeply ingrained in most of the people that

1035
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: are supposed to cover this White House that this is

1036
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: the this is not a a bug, this is a feature.

1037
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the thing. If you look at

1038
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: the their ratings. If you look at CNN, nbcum half

1039
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: of these uh NPR. If you look at their ratings,

1040
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: nobody's paying attention to anymore. People know that they're misleading

1041
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: the American public. And I think eventually, um, when it

1042
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: finally reaches that that uh I guess tipping points, there

1043
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: is going to be major reform where hopefully they'll they'll

1044
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: actually get back to being journalists. Lucian Wintrich is White

1045
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: House correspondent for a Gateway Pundit. Lucian, thank you so

1046
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: much for joining and keep on doing your stuff down

1047
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: there in DC. Appreciate it. Thank you. Team eight four

1048
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: four nine dred to eight to five on the phones.

1049
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: We are gonna head into a break. But before I

1050
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Speaker 1: do that, actually, let me just say for a moment,

1051
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: the idea that there's an Info Wars correspondent. I mean,

1052
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: if it's if it's not Alex Jones himself, it's a

1053
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: little disappointed because there is a part of me that

1054
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: that remembers some of you probably what I'm talking about.

1055
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Speaker 1: There was that exchange some years ago between um Piers

1056
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Morgan and uh and Alex Jones. Alex Jones went on

1057
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: went on Piers Morgan's CNN show, which was a terrible show,

1058
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: and I cannot believe that CNN thought that they should

1059
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: pay this guy millions of dollars to show up unprepared

1060
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: and just sort of spout off about American politics, particularly guns,

1061
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: as a British guy who is not, uh we well,

1062
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: completely ignorant on the topic of the of the Second Amendment.

1063
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: But uh, he's there. He's like, you're oh, we have

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones now on the show. Hello Alex Jones. And

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Speaker 1: then you had Alex Jones be like, if you come

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Speaker 1: for our guns seventeen seventy six. Well, he got all

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Speaker 1: crazy on him. That was I was told by somebody

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Speaker 1: at CNN who was a friend of mine at the time.

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Speaker 1: That was the highest rated segment on Piers Working show

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Speaker 1: of all time. It's like you're a very you're a

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Speaker 1: very stupid man. And then uh, and then you had

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones to be like, you know you you come. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones at one point started doing his acted I'm English,

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Speaker 1: my name is piage More and tried to like do

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Speaker 1: an impersonation of him. If you haven't seen the clip

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Speaker 1: of Piers Working and Alex Jones, it's it's some good

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Speaker 1: to TV. I'll say that. Not not high level analysis,

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Speaker 1: but it is definitely amusing. And to have Alex Jones

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Speaker 1: in the briefing room and be like cam Trails Illuminati,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bilderberg's. Excuse me, excuse me, sean sponsor

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Speaker 1: um is it is it not true that that sorous

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Speaker 1: and and the builder Bergs, you know, coming for the

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Speaker 1: people of America. It would be it would be incredible

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Speaker 1: to watch. So here's hoping that at some point, uh,

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Speaker 1: he could see Alex Jones find his way into the press.

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Speaker 1: You don't like, he doesn't know me. I never met

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Speaker 1: the guy, but he doesn't like me, obviously, that smug

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Speaker 1: look before that that's satisfied. You know that this guy's government,

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Speaker 1: he is the government. I could play the whole clip

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Speaker 1: for you at some point maybe I will buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: hiding hiding in plain side. I was like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: like a like a website writer with with a couple

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Speaker 1: of roommates, trying to make a living. But I need

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Speaker 1: to get called out by this. UH. To borrow from

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Speaker 1: what was the term that Trump he used again, nut job?

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Speaker 1: I think he said, um, yeah, allegedly said I should

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Speaker 1: note allegedly of coomy allegedly. Alright, we'll hit a quick

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Speaker 1: break here, team eight four to eight to five will

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Speaker 1: be right back. Team. I want to give you continuing

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Speaker 1: updates here for the breaking news story. Terrible news out

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Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom. At an area on a Grande

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Speaker 1: concert in Manchester, there was an explosion of some kind.

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Speaker 1: I've seen reports from British UH, from British authorities that

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Speaker 1: up to twenty may have our twenty fatalities may have occurred,

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Speaker 1: many wounded. There are lots of eyewitness reports of UH,

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Speaker 1: just people running in terror, gruesome imagery, UH individuals hobbling

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Speaker 1: away with terrible open wounds. It's it's if this is

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Speaker 1: in terrorism, I don't know what it what it could

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Speaker 1: possibly be. I mean I would say it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you're in certain at this point that this is terrorism.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've seen unconfirmed reports as well from from

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Speaker 1: news sources and official accounts in the United Kingdom that

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Speaker 1: this may have been a a nail bomb. Again unconfirmed,

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Speaker 1: So I'll keep updating you as we go here. This

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Speaker 1: is live and breaking as I am on air with you.

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Speaker 1: UM and uh, this is a it's a nightmare situation.

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Speaker 1: You have a concert going on here. I believe the

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Speaker 1: concert had just ended, people were exiting, and that is

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Speaker 1: for those of you who UM don't know. Just as

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Speaker 1: an aside, I was formerly NYPD Intelligence Division for counter

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Speaker 1: Terrorism here in New York City and also part of

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Speaker 1: the CIA's counter Terrorism Center. Uh so this is bringing

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Speaker 1: me back to my uh former life and previous career.

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Speaker 1: A concentration of individuals in x ville or leaving a

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Speaker 1: crowded venue like a concert is from the terrorists perspective,

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Speaker 1: and again it's not yet confirmed that it's terrorism. But

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Speaker 1: from a terrorist perspective, that funnel effect of people leaving

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Speaker 1: a venue, um would be a a very uh high

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Speaker 1: high on the target list. It is a way of

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Speaker 1: increasing the casualties. And so you have a mass casualty incident.

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Speaker 1: I know that when you think of a concert, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, but it's also in a very

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Speaker 1: big space. So just one a bomb that you would

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Speaker 1: smuggle in. Assuming this was in fact a bomb, and

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Speaker 1: I think we can we can assume that at this

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Speaker 1: point based on the reports it was a bomb. The

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Speaker 1: question is just who put it there, and what kind

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Speaker 1: of bomb and all details that the authorities and everyone

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Speaker 1: are are feverish they're looking for right now. Um. But

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Speaker 1: placing a bomb at the end of the concert in

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Speaker 1: a an area of egress where you'd have a concentration

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Speaker 1: of civilians and concentration of targets, um, that would from

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Speaker 1: the terrorists perspective, be be a choice that they would make,

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Speaker 1: UM because the blast radius of it. You want to

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Speaker 1: if you're again a terrorist, you're trying to inflict mass casualties,

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Speaker 1: the blast radius you would also wanted to be in

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Speaker 1: an area that is um not just densely packed, of course,

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Speaker 1: but also with I'm not sure what they haven't seen

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Speaker 1: physically what it looks like in the exit area, though

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Speaker 1: I am looking at footage right now people running away

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Speaker 1: and running away from the explosion, and I would guess

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Speaker 1: that also it was in an interior part of the stadium,

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Speaker 1: where you know, shrapnel would have the most vicious and

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Speaker 1: devastating effect. So in every sense we can see so

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Speaker 1: are it certainly seems to be terrorism. We don't have

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Speaker 1: more details than that, and British authorities are uh feverishly

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Speaker 1: trying to deal with the wounded. The wounded are still

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Speaker 1: streaming out from this incident. Um. I know that there

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Speaker 1: will be a lot of speculation tonight as to the

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Speaker 1: likely likely perpetrator here. Um, just based on the numbers

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Speaker 1: and the choice of target, you'd have to think that

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Speaker 1: some je hottest is the likeliest, although I cannot say that.

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Speaker 1: I I can't assess that yet because we don't have

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Speaker 1: any anything beyond just seems to be a bomb, mass

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Speaker 1: casualty incident at an Ariana Grande concert. Again, this is

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Speaker 1: breaking news. It's all happening right now as I am

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Speaker 1: on air with you. Um. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: news reports coming in. Some of them are going to

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Speaker 1: be inaccurate. That's just the nature of an event like this.

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Speaker 1: The authorities are going to be not only there are

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Speaker 1: not only dealing with the immediate horrific aftermath of this,

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Speaker 1: uh this bombing, but also now you have a search

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Speaker 1: for the perpetrators will be underway right away. Um and

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Speaker 1: a right alongside that in terms of top priorities for

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Speaker 1: counter terrorism in the UK. Uh, the you know their

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Speaker 1: their authorities, they're there equivalent of the of the FBI

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Speaker 1: and um perhaps Domestic Intelligence Service as well. M I five.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're going to be looking at whether there's

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Speaker 1: following attacks plan and trying to prevent. If this was

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Speaker 1: in fact a cell, a terror cell that was operating

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Speaker 1: that planet, this one bomb, there could be others that

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Speaker 1: are in progress right now. There could be other attacks

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Speaker 1: that are in progress. I don't want to go too

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Speaker 1: far down these analytic lines because we just do not

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Speaker 1: have much more information. Um Uh, they're treating it as

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Speaker 1: an incident of I see this now. The BBC is

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Speaker 1: treating it as a possible terror incident. Well, mean that's

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Speaker 1: not it's clearly not definitive, but it certainly looks like

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Speaker 1: terrorism in every respect. And uh you have to figure

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Speaker 1: that this is likely to be an incident perpetrated by

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Speaker 1: either If someone's asking me what what we can speak

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Speaker 1: in probability about that, I can't give you analysis yet

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Speaker 1: because we don't have enough of a fact pattern. But

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Speaker 1: if this was in fact a nail bomb and it uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else it would it would be

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Speaker 1: other than a bomb at this point, and there were

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Speaker 1: if you're wondering what buck, why are you even suggesting

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Speaker 1: could be anything else? There were some uh some early

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Speaker 1: on report saying that the thought it might be some

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Speaker 1: horrific malfunction of electrical equipment. But that's it's not if fatality.

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Speaker 1: Once you're talking about large numbers of fatalities. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's uh, this is not a speak or that short

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Speaker 1: circuited and electrocuted a few people, and obviously it when

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Speaker 1: it exploded. So we're looking at a bomb, and now

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Speaker 1: you have to deal what we have to look at

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Speaker 1: what the possible um scenarios are for who planted this

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Speaker 1: bomb and how it um you know how how it

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Speaker 1: may be the first of several if you look at

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Speaker 1: the night of the Botto Clon massacre in Paris, when

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Speaker 1: keep in mind and again there were suicide bombs in

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Speaker 1: Paris in France that were detonated outside of Stans de France,

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Speaker 1: which is the biggest soccer stadium in in Paris. I

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Speaker 1: believe it might be the biggest soccer stadium in the

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Speaker 1: whole country. And I think that also happened towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, because think about us, all of

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Speaker 1: you have been to sports arenas the different kinds. The

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Speaker 1: end of the game, everyone's they're also tired, they're funneled

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Speaker 1: into certain areas to exit, they're packed in their slow

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Speaker 1: moving if you're looking for a situation ration where you

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Speaker 1: have densely packed soft targets, and it's a horrific way

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Speaker 1: to think about this. But as we're analyzing from the

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Speaker 1: terrorist mindset, to make sure that we also know what

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Speaker 1: may be coming next here, and you know, first you

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Speaker 1: established it as terrorist, and then you've got to figure

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Speaker 1: out what the next target set may be and you

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Speaker 1: gotta get this guy or guys. We don't know what's

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Speaker 1: we don't know how many are involved yet. Um I.

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Speaker 1: I again, I wish I could bring you more details.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at all the news reports here. We've

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Speaker 1: got everybody here pulling this together as quickly as we can.

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Speaker 1: Um But it's almost almost certainly terrorism, very likely jee

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Speaker 1: hottest terrorism. And if you were to ask me on

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Speaker 1: the spot, I'd say, either isis director or an isis sympathizer,

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Speaker 1: so those would be that's the place where analysis is.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Freedom hud On an island of

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Speaker 1: liberty where you're the party and it's full of fellow

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Speaker 1: Patrie buck Sexton kicks it off the team. We have

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Speaker 1: more updates for you on what's going on right now

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Speaker 1: with this incident, um uh. We have stories of from

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Speaker 1: eyewitnesses of carnage and and mayhem and destruction. We have

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Speaker 1: Manchester Police are warning people to stay away, stay away

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Speaker 1: from the scene. A father described seeing quote carnage everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He said, as I was waiting, an explosion went off

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Speaker 1: and it threw me through the first set of doors

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Speaker 1: about thirty feet the next set of doors. When I

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Speaker 1: got up and looked around, there about thirty people scattered everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Some of them looked dead. They might have been unconscious,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of fatalities. My first thing

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Speaker 1: was to run in the stadium and try and find

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Speaker 1: my wife and daughter. When I couldn't find them, I

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Speaker 1: looked back outside and the police, fire and ambulance were there,

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Speaker 1: and I looked at some of the bodies trying to

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Speaker 1: find my family. Luckily they weren't there. I managed to

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Speaker 1: find them outside the arena and get them back to

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Speaker 1: the hotel. That's an eyewitness account being reported here. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is this, this is terrorism, and this is uh

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Speaker 1: a horrific event that we obviously no one's been captured

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Speaker 1: yet there could be following attacks planned. Um. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is an incident. We have to keep a very close

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Speaker 1: si on. All right. Look, uh we are We're joined

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Speaker 1: Israel today, but do you have any any reactions or

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Speaker 1: any thoughts? I mean, clearly, Uh, this is an incident

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Speaker 1: that um is gonna be the focus of of all

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Speaker 1: of the media and everyone around the world now for

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Speaker 1: for at least the next twenty four hours. Yet the

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Speaker 1: thing this absolutely right, buck, and it's going the pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be with you and to be back with you,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really tragic. You know. The atmosphere in Israel

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Speaker 1: today was one that was hopeful, it was it was

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Speaker 1: forward looking. Uh, and and this is something that's kind

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Speaker 1: of thrown the news cycle at UH suddenly world leadership

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Speaker 1: into disarrange. But the themes really overlapped. The themes overlapped,

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Speaker 1: and one one of the themes that UH and of

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Speaker 1: course we we don't know, we haven't confirmed yet whether

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Speaker 1: this is actually a Paris or not, but it's only

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Speaker 1: has all the hallmarks. One of the things one of

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Speaker 1: the themes that came up repeatedly was the President referring

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Speaker 1: to the common fight against atus H. An attack like

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Speaker 1: this certainly at at the hallmarks of an active type attack.

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Speaker 1: Also the fight against Iran, which which is shanta radical ideology,

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Speaker 1: will hear from a different point of view UH, and

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Speaker 1: has much more sub substantial tools even that even than

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Speaker 1: I have had. And of course there's this this is

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Speaker 1: from this administration, that the constant authority which pays the

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Speaker 1: terrorists who have created this type of contage in Israel

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Speaker 1: for decades, that this administration is finally coined on them

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Speaker 1: to still those terra payments that still glorifying these terrorists.

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Speaker 1: But there certainly is a degree of overlast. But I

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Speaker 1: have no question that the positive endments that we started

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Speaker 1: to see at a turution and that's going to be

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Speaker 1: now obscure completely with this great tragedy DVID. We're having

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Speaker 1: a very tough time hearing you, my friend. Can you

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Speaker 1: can you get us back on another line with a

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Speaker 1: better connection because I can barely hear, which means the

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Speaker 1: audience can barely hear hear you as well. So guys,

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Speaker 1: can we try to reconnect with dot with with the

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Speaker 1: clear connections we can talk to him more about well,

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Speaker 1: this this incident and also uh, we can talk to

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Speaker 1: them about what's going on today with Trump in in Israel. UM.

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Speaker 1: I'm still looking at news reports as they're coming in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is terrorism. Um, that much

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Speaker 1: is clear. The report about two explosions I think is

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Speaker 1: noteworthy because it may have been the the first uh,

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Speaker 1: the first incident, the first um, the first bomb that

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Speaker 1: went off may have been intended to force people into

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Speaker 1: an even more condensed area and from there, UM there

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Speaker 1: may have been a secondary explosion meant to increase casualties

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Speaker 1: even further. Because we are seeing reports of two explosions,

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Speaker 1: let me um so UH UK counter Terrorism Unit is

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Speaker 1: treating Manchester incident as possible terror. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this is terrorism. Um So, any more updates we have

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Speaker 1: for you, I I will give you more of my

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Speaker 1: sense of what's going on here. Um but uh, we've

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Speaker 1: got David I Foon back on. He's editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of the Alga Miner. David. Sorry about that. We need

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Speaker 1: to be able to hear you though, sir, um So,

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Speaker 1: tell me about Trump and is real today and if

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Speaker 1: we have any breaking news on the terror attack in

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Speaker 1: the UK, we'll get to that. Well. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much you heard before in terms of what I

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Speaker 1: was saying, but but the atmosphere in Jerusalem was some

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Speaker 1: that was that was very positive. You have the Israelis

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Speaker 1: and the US and on the same page, almost on

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Speaker 1: exactly the same page, on a whole list of issues

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Speaker 1: for the first time, certainly in eight years, and maybe

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Speaker 1: even closer to the same page. But then they were

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Speaker 1: under the Bush administration on issues like Iran, on issues

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Speaker 1: of challenging the extremism in the region, certainly on on

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Speaker 1: an issue like Isis, which said, they've just mentioned the

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Speaker 1: attack that we're seeing now in Manchester has all the

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Speaker 1: whole monks of an IS style attack. And also on

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Speaker 1: the same issue of the Palestine authority payments the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course Israel has has has faced this

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Speaker 1: type of terrorism for a long time. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: the second Departa, we saw these type of attack on

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Speaker 1: a new nightclouds and on young people and and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, public events in this type of setting, it

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Speaker 1: a passover statare, etcetera. And to this day there was terrorists,

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Speaker 1: the perpetrators of these attacks as sitting in Israeli prisons

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Speaker 1: and they're receiving a stipend from the Palestinian authorities. And

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Speaker 1: now for the first time you have a president, President

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Speaker 1: Trump who's insisting that this is something that the Palestinists

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Speaker 1: takes responsibility for. So, as I said, while what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing now coming out of Manchester is gonna cost a

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Speaker 1: shadow over the positive atmosphere that President Trump has brought

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Speaker 1: with him to US relations and and even to study

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Speaker 1: relations and renewing relationships with friends and allied. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: even though the shadow is being cast, there is certainly

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Speaker 1: an overlap and and and some common themes because this

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Speaker 1: is the type of terrorism and of course we have

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Speaker 1: yet for it to be confirmed, but it has certainly

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Speaker 1: looks like it the type of terrorism that's plagued the

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Speaker 1: Middle East for such a long time, and obviously the

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Speaker 1: Israelis have a lot that they can share with the

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Speaker 1: west of the world, with the bridge of the Americans

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Speaker 1: that have a set up to this how to handle it,

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Speaker 1: security UH measures and also responding to this kind of

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Speaker 1: catastroph being chaos, which is very rare for for for

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officials in the North of England. We've got

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Speaker 1: David if Food on the line, who's the editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of the Alga. Minor David. People have been talking

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Speaker 1: a lot today about the peace process, specifically that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump may be able to help. Of course he's not

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Speaker 1: the primary actor in this. It would be Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: net and Yahoo he is really connesced and Palestinian negotiators

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Speaker 1: on the other side. But there seems to be a

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Speaker 1: renewed hope for the peace process. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: first where does the peace process stand? And then then

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about whether you think this

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Speaker 1: optimism is warranted yet. Well, I think, first of all,

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Speaker 1: in terms of where it stands right now, you have

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Speaker 1: a situation where it's in deadlock for such a long time.

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Speaker 1: You had President Obama who moved far towards the Palestinian

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Speaker 1: siders as we've ever seen in the response to that

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Speaker 1: was that the Palestinians couldn't be wholier than the post.

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Speaker 1: So they climbed back up their tree and they disappeared

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Speaker 1: from the negotiating table. Now, just the presidence of a

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Speaker 1: new administration in Washington, and certainly President Trump's rhetoric has

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Speaker 1: brought both sides to a point where they're very eager

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Speaker 1: to please the president, and either of them want to

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Speaker 1: be the first one to say no. So what will

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Speaker 1: the next steps look like? Certainly there are demands from

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Speaker 1: the Israeli sign and their demands on the Palestinian side.

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Speaker 1: At this point, they haven't got to the to the

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Speaker 1: level of specific they're talking. Certainly, the president's talking in

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Speaker 1: much more general terms about what it would look like,

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Speaker 1: what it might look like. Having said that, so so

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Speaker 1: we'll see what the next steps are. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: there are two major changes that this administration has bought

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Speaker 1: at the table. The first change, the first major change,

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Speaker 1: is that the administ station is saying we are not

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Speaker 1: going to impose a solution. We are not going to

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Speaker 1: predetermine what the outcome is going to be. The Environment administration,

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Speaker 1: certainly with its moves in the international arena and in

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Speaker 1: the u N. Had a very specific requirement of what

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Speaker 1: the outcome was going to be, and did everything they

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Speaker 1: could to force Israel's hand, forced the outcome, forced to

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Speaker 1: batton the boundaries and the borders that we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration is saying, we want to be a facilitator,

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Speaker 1: we want to empower, but we do not want to impose.

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Speaker 1: And the second thing, and this is this is actually fundamental,

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Speaker 1: that the fundamental ship is that for such a long

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Speaker 1: time there's been this this ideology or this theory of

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Speaker 1: what we call linkage that the Palestinians really conflict is

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Speaker 1: right at the core of all the chaos in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, because it fuels fundamentalism, it fuels radicalism, it's

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Speaker 1: used as a terror recruiting tool. This was a claim

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Speaker 1: to such a long time, and the State's Department, certainly

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Speaker 1: from the diplomats in Europe who have been making the

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Speaker 1: very same claim. What President Trump was coming to the

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Speaker 1: table today if he made very very clear that Iran

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Speaker 1: is actually the center point of regional instability. Irun is

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Speaker 1: the meddling power, the number one state sponsor of terrorism.

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Speaker 1: And while President Trump would love to see movements on

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Speaker 1: the Palistinian issue. He does not see this as the

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Speaker 1: center point of regional stability. The Iranians are the ones

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Speaker 1: that hold that title under the new administration. And then suddenly,

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Speaker 1: how what what the Israelians have felt to tell for

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Speaker 1: a long time? Speaking of Dovida fun, editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of the Alga, Minor David As, I look at the

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Speaker 1: uh the updates here on this incident, this apparent terrorist

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Speaker 1: act in the United Kingdom during report nineteen killed fifty

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Speaker 1: injured so far in this in this bombing at a

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Speaker 1: at a concert in Manchester, UM, what do you think

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Speaker 1: if if Prime Minister Nan Yahoo was able to and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be able to over the course

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Speaker 1: of the next twenty four hours to trans transmit some

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Speaker 1: some philosophical assistance to President Trump for how to deal

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Speaker 1: with jihadiest terrorism, assuming that's what we find out that

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Speaker 1: has happened in the United Kingdom here, what do you

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Speaker 1: think that would sound like? What lessons should the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration take from the Israeli fight against jihadis um and

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Speaker 1: and terror against civilians? But do you know something pocas

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Speaker 1: such a good question to ask, and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: the truth is that there there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: amazing things that the Israelians have to have exported or

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, irritation and startup culture, and you know,

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Speaker 1: this has all been very well documented. But the truth

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Speaker 1: is and and tragically it's Israel's experience in combating terror

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Speaker 1: over over the last decade that is increasingly becoming one

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Speaker 1: of the most sought after commodities and the gifts that

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Speaker 1: the Jewish state has to give to the world. The

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Speaker 1: first book that Minister that now Ever wrote was on

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Speaker 1: exactly the subject and how to police a threat from

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Speaker 1: with inner society without conturning the freedoms of that society.

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Speaker 1: And it's actually a positive book. It's an optimistic book,

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Speaker 1: and it has uh, you know, a really a really

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Speaker 1: great outline of the approach that law enforcement officials can take.

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Speaker 1: And Israel to to a great degree, has been successful

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Speaker 1: in this regard. But I think the first thing is you,

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Speaker 1: you you, you, you have to be absolutely unforgiving in

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Speaker 1: terms of this kind of ideology, unaccepting, unaccepting of of

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Speaker 1: of it's preaching, unaccepting of it support and to galvanize

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Speaker 1: all groups to be able to address it. I think

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Speaker 1: on the intelligence front. Uh, it's also vital. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Israelians are using now algorithmic intelligence. They're monitoring things

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Speaker 1: on social media. There is certainly a components of profiling.

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Speaker 1: For exam, if you get an Israeli plain, uh, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be profiled your profile, and it's it's effective. I

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Speaker 1: mean that there are there are politically incorrect components to it.

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Speaker 1: When you go to a flight to Israel, they ask

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Speaker 1: you questions about your family and who you know in

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Speaker 1: the country, induce peak Hebrews, and this is how they

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Speaker 1: they analyze who is likely to be a threat and

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Speaker 1: who is not likely to be a Briton. The key

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Speaker 1: is not to worry about political correctness, but when it

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Speaker 1: comes to saving lives and preserving lives, to do what's effective.

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Speaker 1: And the Israelis have really perfected these mechanisms, and they

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Speaker 1: are they are anxious, they're delighted, they're they're always willing

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Speaker 1: to be able to share this with law enforceant agencies

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Speaker 1: around the world. And I hope that those law enfortanmate

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Speaker 1: agent who can recognize it and take advantage of it

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Speaker 1: and stop to implement it, because Lord knows what Israel

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Speaker 1: has been experienced now for decades is only growing in

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Speaker 1: increasing in Western countries domin if Fun is the editor

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Speaker 1: in chief of the Alga Miner uh Dovid always great

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Speaker 1: to have your perspective. Thank you for making the time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Always the pleasure. But UH team to update you. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: dead in Manchester, England. This is breaking news. It's just

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Speaker 1: been occurring and getting updates throughout the show tonight. UM.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen killed fifty wounded in a terrorist attack in Manchester

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Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom. It was at the end of

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Speaker 1: an Ariana Grande concerts. UH just just horrific. UM. Police

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Speaker 1: are scrambling to well first have first well to have

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Speaker 1: first responders deal with the the incident, with the wounded,

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Speaker 1: and also now to find the perpetrators and to prevent

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Speaker 1: follow on attacks. It is a race against time. We

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Speaker 1: will continue to follow this very closely and UM, if

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Speaker 1: you have any any thoughts you'd like to share, our

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01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: phones are open here. We are live eight four four

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Speaker 1: buck eight four four two eight to five. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back right after this break. Breaking news of a terrorist attack.

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Speaker 1: In apparent terrorist attack in the United Kingdom. Nineteen dead

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Speaker 1: at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, Manchester Arena is

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Speaker 1: the largest indoor arena in Europe, has a capacity for

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01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: twenty one thousand people. UM. From what we know, two

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01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: explosions so far based on eyewitness eyewitness reports and nineteen

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01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: confirmed dead by the authorities, nineteen people have already been

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01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: killed in this terrible incident. UM. We all so are

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01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: seeing reporting coming in from eye witnesses that there were

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01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: bolts and nails, so a shrapnel bomb. It perhaps could

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01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: even be similar to what we saw in the Bain

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01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: marathon bombing, where you had a pressure cooker bomb as

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01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: the as the detonation device. UM. We're going to get

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01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: more details on this as as they come out, but

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01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: right now it seems quite clear we're dealing with an

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Speaker 1: act of terrorism and the authorities will be in a

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01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: race against time to try and prevent another incident like this.

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Whenever you have a cell that's gone operational, especially if

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01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:35,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about a jihadest cell, there's a very real possibility,

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01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: very very real likelihood of follow on attack elsewhere. So

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01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: we will continue to follow us as closely as we can. Again,

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01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: my my background is somewhat useful here in the analysis

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Speaker 1: of this. I was a c I A counter terrorism

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01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: officer and kind of terrorism analyst in the CTC, the

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01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: count of Terrorism Center, and also MYPD Intelligence Division here

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01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: in New York City dealing with terrorism incidents. In fact,

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01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:05,440
Speaker 1: I worked the Times Square bombing in where the perpetrator

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Speaker 1: suppies Al shazad Um and his explosive device did not

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Speaker 1: function as intended, Thank thank Heavens, that's why there were

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Speaker 1: no fatalities, no injuries. Unfortunately, can't say the same tonight

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Speaker 1: in the UK. Nineteen dead, fifty wounded and uh, just

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01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: an atrocity at a at a concert at it and

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01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: a concert for people that just try and have a

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01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 1: night out. We really are in a we'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about this in a few minutes. We're in a war

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Speaker 1: for civilization, and we're in a war against savages, um,

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01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: who just have no decency and have embraced darkness and

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01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: have embraced evil. Ed in Ohio, um w h l

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Speaker 1: O ed what are your thoughts? Well, I was just

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01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 1: listening about this territorist attacked in Manchester and years ago

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01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: I read this book by Way of Deception Victor Stropsky Um.

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01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: He was a massaut agent, got disillusion with the system.

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01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: He was talking about this sign him they were Jews,

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01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: they would help a massat agent in any country. And

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01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: he said that like, for instance, you got shot, the

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01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: doctor might not help you, but he would not rat

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01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: you out. So I'm just wondering, Blake, in a mosque

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01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: if you heard somebody planning to blow up the Walmart?

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01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to give everyone benefit of

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01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: the doubt? But what would they do? What would they do?

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01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: What would they rat you out to the police or

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01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: would they just go to the other Walmart? Um, I'm

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01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: not totally clear on on your question. You're asking me

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01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: if if in a mosque somebody over here someone plotting

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01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: to bamba Walmart, what would they hypothetically do exactly? Well,

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01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: it depends on who overhears it. I think. I think

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01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: a vast majority of a vast majority of people, and

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01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: certainly in this county, tree and and around the world,

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01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: if they heard that there was terrorist act and in

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01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: in progress, they would they would report it. Not everybody

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01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,440
Speaker 1: would report it. So I can't speak to a hypothetical

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01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: methanit any more details than than that. But Ed, thank

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01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: you for calling, and we've got to go into break

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01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: here in a second. Um, I don't know, Uh, man,

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Speaker 1: this is it's gonna be a long night in the UK,

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01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 1: and I just think about the it's it's hard you

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: think about the families here. Uh. Nineteen people killed, very

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Speaker 1: likely given the concert that we're talking about here, very

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01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: likely young people, just devastating. We'll go to a break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cover this live. Stay with me. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Freedom Hut on an island of liberty where

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Speaker 1: you're the party and it's full of fellow patriots. Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton kicks it off breaking news of a horrific bombing

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Speaker 1: in Manchester, England. Here's what we know so far. Nineteen dead, uh,

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01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: dozens more wounded. It was at an Ariana Grande concert

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Speaker 1: in Manchester in the United Kingdom. The concert at the

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01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: Manchester Arena capacity twenty one thousand people. The concert had

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01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 1: finished and those in attendance were exiting. While they were

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01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: exiting the stadium, it has been reported that two blasts

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01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: were heard, UH, and then there was a rush of

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01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 1: people terrified as a result of the explosions, UH, to

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01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: try and get away from what has been described as

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01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: a scene of carnage. UH. There's a lot of additional

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01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: reporting right now on social media. Eyewitness reports the various

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01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: news stations of Sky News, the BBC and others saying

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01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: this is being treated as a terrorist incident. UH. It

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01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: is not yet confirmed by the authorities, but we can

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01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: tell based on all the signatures here and what we've

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01:37:56,479 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: seen so far, it is almost be yawned comprehension this

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01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: could be anything other than a terrorist attack at a

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Speaker 1: major concert in the United Kingdom in Manchester. Nine dead,

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Speaker 1: fifty injured is the current report as we see it here.

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01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: So there are also reports coming in of nail of

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Speaker 1: nails and of other shrapnel that were found at the

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01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: scene afterwards. We should make it that make it very

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01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,440
Speaker 1: likely this was a bomb that has been used elsewhere,

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01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: a simple shrapnel effect device intended to wound in maim

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Speaker 1: as many people as possible. UM. Not clear yet what

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01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: the detonator was not clear yet. If this, as we

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01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: saw in the Boston Marathon bombing, involved a pressure cooker

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01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: in a backpack, not difficult at all to put one

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01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: of these devices together if one so chooses to engage

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01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: in a such affect terrorists act UM. We are not

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Speaker 1: yet at the point where there have been any claims

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Speaker 1: of responsibility. If it is in fact, UH, the Islamic

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01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 1: State that is responsible for this, either through a proxy

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01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: somebody who is doing this in the name of ISIS,

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01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: or perhaps al Qaeda or one of its offshoots. We

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01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: would likely hear about this within hours. Usually ISIS does

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01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: claim responsibility for attacks. It has a media wing where

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01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: it will say that this was done and in the

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Speaker 1: name of the Islamic State. We have not yet seen

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01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: any such claim, and UH there was there's now a

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Speaker 1: report of a secondary device found near the arena as well. Now,

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Speaker 1: in a lot of I worked in the CIA's counter

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Speaker 1: Terrorism Center as well as the m Y p d

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Speaker 1: S Intelligence Division for counter Terrorism and UH. In a

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Speaker 1: lot of the incidents that we've seen in the past

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01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: where there's a bomb like this, there'll be report it's

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01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: of a secondary device or additional devices. UM, but that

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01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: can often be not always, and that's what has to

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01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: be treated. Anytime there's even the slightest suspicion, they have

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Speaker 1: to clear the area, make sure all civilians, all personnel

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01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: they're not part of UH police and bomb disposal, get

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01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: out of the get out of the area, get out

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01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: of the any possible future blast radius. But with the

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Speaker 1: sightings or the possible sightings of additional devices. It's oftentimes

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01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: the case that, UH, it's just an abundance of caution

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Speaker 1: that anything that is left behind, any paperback, anything that

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01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 1: could conceal a device and is suspicious maybe cordoned off initially. UM,

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01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: so that there is not there are not additional casualties

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01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: that could have been avoided. UM Again, Buck Sexton here

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01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: with you with the breaking news of an apparent terrorist

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Speaker 1: attack in the United Kingdom, a bomb and an Arianna

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Speaker 1: Grande concert right afterwards. Now looking at the possible uh

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Speaker 1: an analysis of terrorist tactics here, that the bombing would

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Speaker 1: have occurred after the after the concert, would be in

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Speaker 1: keeping with other incidents where the the terrorists would seek

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01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:23,440
Speaker 1: to UH explode the device in a an impact confined

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Speaker 1: area where they also know that there would be a

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Speaker 1: lot of individuals traversing at a certain time. So in

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Speaker 1: a in a concert venue, yes there's a lot of people,

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01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: but they're spread out. And even in an indoor concert

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01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: like this with a twenty thousand plus capacity, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of space. And when you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with explosives and the blast radius and a shrapnel effect, UH,

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01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: the terrorists would seek to have a more condensed targets

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Speaker 1: set here of course, in this case the target set

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01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: being men, women and children's civilians trying to enjoy UM

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Speaker 1: a night out UM. And I'll give you one of

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on this fight and and what we're up

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01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,480
Speaker 1: against in a few minutes, but just on the um

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01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: on the specifics, on the tactics of the incident here

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Speaker 1: of this this breaking news, terrible breaking news out of

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Speaker 1: the United Kingdom that a an explosion has killed nineteen people.

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01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 1: It is being treated now officially I see as a

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01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 1: terrorist attack. It's been clear for some time that that's

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01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: what this is. It looks to be a nail bomb.

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01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: Multiple bombs in fact have been reported, or at least

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01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: multiple explosions have been reported. There are reports of shrapnel

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Speaker 1: found at the scene. This was a deliberate incident, and

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01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: looking at the target set, looking at the target set, UH,

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01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,839
Speaker 1: and the way that they set this up, the timing

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Speaker 1: of it um points to a terrorist act, perhaps a

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01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: a G hottest terror attack, although we'll see about claims

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01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: of responsibility in the hours ahead. But knowing the routes

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01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: and times of individuals at a venue like this and

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01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: when they'll be the densest period of civilian traffic in

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Speaker 1: one area. There are limited exits from a concert venue

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01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: like this, and you know that when the concert is over,

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01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: a vast majority of the people will be traversing through

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01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: those exits, and so there's a funnel effect, and that

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01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: funnel effect means that there will be more people, more

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01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: densely packed nearby. A device like what we've been what's

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01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: been reported here as uh the as as a nail bomb,

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Speaker 1: as a shrapnel effect device. We we don't have more

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Speaker 1: specifics on it yet. We certainly don't have any word

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Speaker 1: on uh it's packaging or or how it was detonated.

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01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: It does not appear to be a suicide incident based

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Speaker 1: on it, and based on all the reporting we've seen

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01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: so far. Uh usually that's that that's apparent pretty early on,

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Speaker 1: especially from eyewitness reports. Oftentimes, if it would be a

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Speaker 1: suicide bombing incident, you would hear about someone yelling, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that if it's a JE Hottest terror incident,

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Speaker 1: which is not yet what authorities are saying this is.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to extrapolate from what we know

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01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: right now. If it were a g Hottest terrorist incident

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01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: and a suicide bombing that would likely already be reports

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Speaker 1: of individuals yelling as they as they do Allahu Akbar

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Speaker 1: before the detonation. Nothing like that has been reported, so

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Speaker 1: that does not seem to indicate that this would have

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01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: been a Gehottest suicide attack. It could still just be

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01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: a a g Hottest incident or could be some other

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Speaker 1: there there is the possibility of another extremist or terrorist

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Speaker 1: group or ideology behind this. Certainly the numbers would point

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Speaker 1: towards this being a Gee Hottest incident based on what

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01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: we've seen in the UK in recent years, but there

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01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: have been other terrorist groups active in the UK in

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Speaker 1: the past. Most likely overwhelming likelihood here is that this

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01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: would be a ge Hottest a Giottes attack, and as

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Speaker 1: I was saying about the of about two explosions at

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01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: the end of the concert, it is similar in terms

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: of the timing to what happened the night of the

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01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: Botta Clon massacre. You'll recall from that multi pronged terrorist

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Speaker 1: attack in Paris over a year ago um which came

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: a matter of months after the Charlie Hebdo massacre, which

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01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: was a Gee Hottest attack against the cartoonist of Charlie Hebdo.

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Speaker 1: Then you had a multi pronged complex attack in the

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:33,919
Speaker 1: city of Paris against numerous venues, the Botta Clon Concert

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Speaker 1: Hall again a concert hall, which there's there's a similarity

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Speaker 1: right there, Um, the Botto Clon Concert Hall where there

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Speaker 1: was the systematic murder and slaughter of of over a

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Speaker 1: hundred people. And you had at the Stas de France

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Speaker 1: a suicide bombing where an individual blew himself up outside

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Speaker 1: of the French soccer stadium on the outskirts of Paris

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01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: and stat de France, so you could see some there,

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01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: and it was at the end of the game, if

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01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 1: if memory serves, if I remember this correctly, was towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the game when people would have been leaving.

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Speaker 1: So uh, there are some similarities we can draw from that. Again.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news here, Um bucks Xton with you live as

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01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: we are following this terrorist attack in Manchester, England. You

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01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: have nineteen reported dead and fifty wounded at the at

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01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: an Ariana Grande concert, reports of two bombs going off

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Speaker 1: at the end of the concert. Um, and we are

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Speaker 1: looking for more details. Were joined. We're joined by my

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Speaker 1: friend Tom Rogan right now. He is a national security

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01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: writer for a National Review UH and counter terrorism analyst

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Speaker 1: as well. Tom good to have you on. Good to

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Speaker 1: be withy Buck. Thanks for having me on, Tom. What

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: do we know so far? Um So, I think the

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01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: focal point to be taking away is that the attack,

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01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: as you suggest, there's a lot of the hallmarks towards

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01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: the hardest organizations. I think two concerns immediately come up.

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01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Number one, the targeting profile. Um you know, a relatively

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01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, semi hardened target in the sense that it's

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Speaker 1: a concert there would be some security, although not as

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Speaker 1: much as perhaps in the United States, in fact, not

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: as much. But there's also a issue in terms of

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Speaker 1: the children who were gathering there and the science of

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01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 1: the explosive device that was clearly used. All that to

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01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: me suggests someone who knows more than the average you know,

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01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: Omar Martine want to be and and and perhaps a

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01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 1: more concerted self structure, especially in the context of this

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01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: being perhaps a bomb that was deployed without a suicide bomber,

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01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: essentially that it was planted to whereas that individual or

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01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: individuals right, it could have been a command detonated device

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01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: between someone could have left something behind and and been

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01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: quite a distance away. UM, not not clear yet on

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01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: on how the detonation or could have been a timer. Well,

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01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: we'll find out more about that as the bomb squad

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01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 1: as the the authorities, emergency authorities in London do their work.

1749
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: By the way, we're joined by Tom Rogan again that

1750
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,879
Speaker 1: we're bringing you up to speed here on this horrific

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01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: terrorist attack in Manchester, England, nineteen dead, fifty wounded and

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01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande concert. Authorities have locked down the scene. They

1753
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: are trying to prevent follow on attacks. First responders are

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01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,520
Speaker 1: dealing with what has described as a scene of carnage,

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01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot of horrific wounds on site as a result

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01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: of what reportedly as a nail bombing incident. And now

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01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: we're also going to turn our attention to the possibility

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01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: of follow on attacks. Tom, what are you what are

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01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: the procedures going to be here from the perspective of

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01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: of British authorities after this up? Do we just we

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01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: just dropped we lost time? Well, I can tell you

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01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: from my perspective on the NYPD side of it, from

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01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: the counter terrorism UH the counter terrorism policies that we

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01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 1: would enact here or the counter Terrorism UH book that

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01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: we follow after this incident, you're going to have a

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01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: an increased security presence at facilities across the UK. In fact,

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01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: even the NYPD now here in New York City or

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01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show, will be on elevated alert at

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01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: standard procedure in a lot of high profile terrorist targets,

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01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: major cities that have had terrorist, major terrorist incidents, and

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01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: our constant target for terrorism to take an elevated post

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01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: elevated security posture in response to an incident like this

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01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: again updating you here with this terrorist attack in Manchester,

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01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:49,759
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande concert finishes up. Two bombs reportedly go off.

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01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: We are being told they were nail bombs or shrapnel

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01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: shrapnel devices intended to create as much chaos, bloodshed and

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: murder and mayhem as possible. Nine dead, fifty wounded. The

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01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: explosions came at the end of the concert when there

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01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: would have been the greatest concentration of individuals near the

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01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: near the ticket booth and exit, which is where the

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01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 1: bombs apparently went off. So the timing of this is

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01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 1: is clearly a part of the target set. And now

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01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: they are, as I said, in a race against time

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01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: to try and stop the next attack from happening. As

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: well as UH find the perpetrators of this one is

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01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: very early on. UM a man hunt, a massive manhunt

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01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: in the UK will no doubt, it is underway already

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: and they're going to be both tending to the wounded

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01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: as as well as trying to piece together very quickly

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01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: a picture of what happened here so they can find

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01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: whoever is responsible and stop them from another incident like this.

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01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: If you have the technical know how to build one

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01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: shrapnel device, Unfortunately, that individual or individuals, if it is

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01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 1: a cell, would certainly be capable of another of placing

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01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: and detonating another device like this. So the authorities are

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01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: under a tremendous urgency and pressure to figure out what

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01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: happened here and move on this as as quickly as

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01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: they possibly can. UM it does seem that the likeliest

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01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:31,879
Speaker 1: perpetrator here would be a GI Hottest, a GI Hottest terrorist,

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Speaker 1: whether an individual or working together as part of an

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01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: active cell. We do not have any confirmation of that.

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01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: If it is the Islamic State or someone acting on

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01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 1: behalf of the Islamic State, it is likely we would

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01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: see a claim of responsibility within twenty four hours or

1805
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: so of this incident. Usually happens quickly within a matter

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01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 1: of days, if not sooner. So UM, we now look

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01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 1: at this and and of course also turn and are

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01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: forced to ask questions. And if you're just joining us,

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: nineteen dead, fifty wounded in a terrorist attack in Manchester, England,

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01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: we've got multiple fatality well nineteen dead. More fatalities may

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01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: be added to that list because of the grievous and

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 1: horrific wounds that were suffered at what we believe at

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01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 1: this point was a shrapnel device and explosive device packed

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01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: with nails and bolts so that the concussive force of

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01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: the blast would not be the only aspect of it

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01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: that was lethal. The the shrapnel um would have had

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01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:37,440
Speaker 1: devastating effect in a packed area of the Manchester Arena. UM.

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01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: Now people turn around and ask questions. They want to

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01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: know why. There's never a good answer to that. I've

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01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 1: worked terrorists cases in the past, and I've worked on

1821
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 1: the intelligence side of trying to prevent trying to prevent

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01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 1: terror international terrorists acts as well as fine terrors so

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01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: they can be taken off the battlefield. UM. This is

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01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: the unfortunate state of the world that we live in now,

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01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: where you have ideologies of hate and mayhem and UH,

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01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: I would say anarchy, but unfortunately they do have a

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01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 1: cohesive worldview. UM. I do not know yet that this

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01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: is a Gee Hottest incident. The numbers would overwhelmingly point

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01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,480
Speaker 1: to a terrorist act like this. Given all the indicators

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01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: and factors that we have, it is overwhelmingly likely this

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01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: was in fact a Gee Hottest terrorist incident. This is

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01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: a reminder. This is a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: we are in a war for the very heart of

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01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: civilization itself when we face enemies Gee Hottest or if

1835
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: somehow this were other extremists, whoever they may be, but

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01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm I am betting it as Gee hottests, and they

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01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: seek to destroy our very way of life. They cannot

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01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: be bought off, they cannot be placated, they cannot be

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01:53:55,880 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 1: negotiated with. They have adopted an ideology of evil that

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01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: seeks to destroy our very way of life and seeks

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01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: UH to create um, divisions and unrest and hatred among

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01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: all of us UH and and to undermine our very societies.

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: They use the freedom from within our free society, and

1844
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: that in the UK and Europe and our allies around

1845
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: the world they use our freedoms against us. UM, and

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01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: that's why this is an existential fight. That is what

1847
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: we face here with with this kind of terrorism, Make

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: no mistake about it. All right, I'll have just a

1849
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: final update for you again, Buck Sexton, coming to you

1850
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: with news, terrible news of a terrorist attack nineteen dead,

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01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: fifty wounded in Manchester, England and area and a Grande concert. Well,

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01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: it's a very dark day unfortunately, with this terrorist attack

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01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: in the UK nineteen dead fifty wounded, that number likely

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01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 1: to rise. UM. I appreciate you giving me your time

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01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: as we keep you updated on this. UM. We are

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: in a war for civilization, my friends. I'll be talking

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01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: to again about it tomorrow. Until then, indeed, shi'll taih