1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I feel like one thing you hear a lot when 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: guys come out of high school is the adjustment on 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: the court. 4 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: But what was for you? What was the adjustment like 5 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: off the court? 6 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: You know, in terms of your eighteen nineteen you come 7 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: into millions of dollars, you're famous, you have people I'm 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: sure want something from you throwing themselves at you. 9 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: What was that adjustment like for you? Oh? 10 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: I mean I was always late. 11 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: You't fine? 12 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: Got fine? Every time I stayed at a place, at 13 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: a place that was about too far, it was too 14 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: far from the arena. It was like thirty minutes from 15 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: the arena. And I always tried to factor in all right, 16 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: if I leave, you know, thirty minutes earlier, I'll be 17 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: on time. 18 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: And this is a map quest days right before ways, 19 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: this is be. 20 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: Four ways, this is be four ways, And so I 21 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: would leave, but then I don't factor in traffic. I 22 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: tried to take an alternative route, and it's more traffic, and 23 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: it's during school hours. So I was always late my 24 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: first my first two weeks. And I think for me, 25 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: I had to make an adjustment on first of all, 26 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: where I live, what time I should leave my place, 27 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: and how important it is to be on time. And 28 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: so I start to make those adjustments throughout my rookie 29 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: year of like, all right, cool, I gotta be on 30 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: time for sure. I got to make sure I get 31 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 3: the earl. I gotta try to. I'm gonna move change 32 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: my place where I'm living now to a close location, 33 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: uh so I can be there an hour earlier. And 34 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: so throughout my rookie year, I made all these adjustments, 35 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: and I was always in my veteran's ear. Penny Hardaway, 36 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I was in his ear, Stephan marlbro I was in 37 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: his ear, Tom Googleatta, I was in his ear asking 38 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: all the intricate detailed questions about finances, about how to 39 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: free throws properly, about how to post up, how to 40 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: get positioned to post up. So for me, having those 41 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: great veteran players also helped me to kind of maintain 42 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: a professional mindset even my rookie year. 43 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: Where did you live when you were in New York? 44 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: Because definitely have to you get to figure out out 45 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: fast if you're if you're late late in Phoenix, you're 46 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: definitely late in New York. 47 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was so when I when I first 48 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: when I first got in New York. Uh, everybody lived 49 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: out in Westchester and out of white planes, and I 50 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: was like, man, I need to be in the city 51 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: at that At that time, I was producing a Broadway 52 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: show called The Rock of Ages. I started a company 53 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: called Eboost that was based out of Manhattan. I was 54 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: also a part of this company called Organic Avenue, which 55 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: is like an organic juice, a juice company. So everything 56 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: that I was a part of was in Manhattan, and 57 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: I felt like standing in Westchester or White Plans are 58 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: too far away. So after my first I would say 59 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: a month and a half of being in New York, 60 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: I bought a place. I found a place in the 61 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: West Village. So I moved right before the right next 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: to the Whitney Museums, the Witney Museum now, but before 63 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: it was built, at a place right there at the Payhouse, 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: right there on Jane Street, and it was overlooking the city. 65 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: And it's before the Whitney Museum was built. So I 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: had the whole view of the of the west side, 67 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: and then the rooftop had the entire view. But when 68 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: the Whitney was built, and that a part of that 69 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 3: west side view was taken away, but it was still 70 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: a great spot. 71 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: He was in the mix. 72 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he said, West Villain. 73 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's done there. Yeah, oh yeah. See. 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: And back back in those days, everything was in the 75 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: West Village. You had ab and Arthur, which the owners 76 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: of catch you know what started with Aberarthur Restaurant. You 77 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: had all the bars, all the all the everything was 78 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: right there, and the fashion everything was right there in 79 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: the West Village during those days. So I was, you know, 80 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: definitely in the mix. 81 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean it probably it probably only took up like 82 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 5: an hour to get to the facility. 83 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, practice, I drove. It was good for 84 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: me because I was drive to practice. On my way 85 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: to president morning, all the track was coming into the 86 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: city right for work, so I was I was doing 87 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: the opposite, which is great because on my way home 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: from practice, everyone's leaving going back home from work or 89 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: going back home from work. So I was beating the 90 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: traffic both ways. That's that's that's that's that's that's tough. 91 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: I've done it from I was like Upper West and 92 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, this isn't bad, but. 93 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: West Village is crazy. 94 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: West Village is. But you in the West Village. But 95 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: I'm saying this, especially at the end of the year 96 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: when you don't really have it, you don't really got 97 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: practice like that shoot around. 98 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: So you get out of you get out of a game. 99 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: It's ten eleven pm, finished up media ice bath. 100 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: You got it what fifteen twenty minutes ago? Yeah, for sure. 101 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: And I wasn't driving much, man, I had a made 102 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: bike and I had my driver here. But would you 103 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: have one time at the sixty two s made back 104 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: I was driving, I had my driver with my driver. 105 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: Nice driving in the West Villa's damn brother. 106 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, yeah, you get back and take a nap. 107 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 5: You were you were you were with Gentry in Phoenix. 108 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you liked a g Yeah. 109 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: I had a great time. 110 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: Man. 111 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: It was a great coach. He allowed me to play 112 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: my game in the fullest, the fullest stint, and I 113 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: had a great time with coach Gentry. 114 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Josh had him in New Orleans. 115 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, they you want to talk 116 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 5: about cozy go and let you rock out. He gonna 117 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 5: let you rock Well, you get the rock out anyways, 118 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: but do like me. He was like, man, go ahead, Josh. 119 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 5: I think I was shooting like five six years a game. 120 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 121 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. Then then he left and then I got Stan 122 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: Van Gundy. 123 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's not go down this road for you again. 124 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Now, the funniest thing about this road is that, well 125 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: it's kind of water under the bridge now. But Josh 126 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: and Stan obviously both have platforms, right Stan is now 127 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: it was the on Amazon. 128 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 5: M right, Amazon NBC. 129 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: One of them, I don't know one of them. 130 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: One of them, and they're both pretty vocal about the 131 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: fact that they didn't really like each other. But it's 132 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of like playful at this point. But what Stan, Josh, 133 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: what do you say that one time? And the he 134 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: was like I hated Josh something. He's like, we could 135 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: have been better if I played him more or something 136 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: like that. 137 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: No, no, no, he he he likes me. And that 138 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: was one of the right when I got to New York, 139 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: there was a photo I was in Cleveland and me 140 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: and Tibbs were laughing before a game and that's because 141 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 5: Stan Van Gunny came up to me and was like, yeah, 142 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: as soon as you got traded. I talked to Tibbs 143 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, man, like you're gonna love him. 144 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 5: He's your kind of player. Da da dah. You know 145 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: I love him, but like he hates me, like he 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: hates me. I'm like, you know what, as a coach, 147 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: I hated him. Great person though, one of the one 148 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: of the best, you know, actual people, your meat. But yeah, 149 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: me and him did not see adayas in basketball terms. 150 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: But you know he was your favorite coach, My favorite coach, 151 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: my favorite, My favorite coach I've had was probably, I 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: mean alber Gentry's up there for sure. Mike D'Antoni obviously 153 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: one of my favorite coaches of all time because he 154 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: also was that offensive minded player. He was that position 155 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: as basketball type mind where you just play your game. 156 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: And at first, I don't want to play center. I 157 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: was a natural power forward, sometimes small ford depending on 158 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: the matchup, and then for him to put me at center, 159 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I gotta guard shack. Bro I'm not 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm sixty, I'm sixteen, two forty five man, shack three 161 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen pounds, and so guard those centers. And 162 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: back then you had real centers. You had big guys, 163 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: like real big seven footers what you do now today 164 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: in today's game, but it was just a little bit 165 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: maybe more difficult, and even the power four spot you 166 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: can argue was more difficult even back then, because you 167 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: had Garnet Tim, you had Zach Randolph, you had Carlos Boozer, 168 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: you had Jamaine O'Neil, you had you know, you had 169 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: players every night. The four spot dirt nowinsky you had 170 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: to bring it every single night. So when we start 171 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: playing position less basketball, the matchup for them was an issue. 172 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: So I started using my speed at the five spot 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: to outrun the seven footers. And so Mike D'Antoni was 174 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: the one who somewhat created that type of style where 175 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: we're able to play position less basketball and really create 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: that advantage. 177 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: The Roommate Show was brought to you by Airbnb. 178 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: We still got a lot of games I have to play, 179 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: but my wife keeps going on to Airbnb and talking 180 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: about vacation homes for July. 181 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: That's so funny, so does my wife. 182 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: Anyway, everyone knows by now we went the Grease last 183 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 5: summer together, which was pretty fun. But where do you 184 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: think we should go with the girls this summer? 185 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, but me and Jordan want to 186 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: go somewhere right, anywhere warm with a pool and also 187 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: has a nice kitchen. We all know that we love 188 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: the sunshine pools, so somewhere by beach. And as you know, 189 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: Ali has been in a big cooking phase being all healthy, 190 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 4: and I know it's top party for her to have 191 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: a nice kitchen at her stay. And I always loved 192 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: when we were hanging eating, vibing out us four. 193 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the room we do hang it, it's good vibes. 194 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: It's always great vibes. Man. Well, booking to stay on 195 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 5: Airbnb is the perfect way to decompress after a long season, 196 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: to make you feel right at home with Alli's home 197 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: cooked meals for the four of us. 198 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: So let's do it somewhere warm with the pool by 199 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: the ocean, with a kitchen and cooking. We can see 200 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: who's the better cook. 201 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with that, But we have to have a 202 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 5: good local neighborhood spot because we can't have them cooking 203 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: every meal. 204 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: That's absolutely correct. 205 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: After all our memories you made last summer, now we're 206 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: talking about it again. I can't wait, and I'm looking 207 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 5: forward to our next trip next summer. 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