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Speaker 2: Are they two teams going in different directions? The Jags

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs final hour in the program. Glad to

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Speaker 2: speaking of Peacock, it's Big ten Saturday Night Michigan and

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Speaker 2: USC Michigan USC. Is that right? That's NBC in Peacock.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Saturday Night presented by Discover. So USC then

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Speaker 2: has Notre Dame next week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Michigan at USC this weekend. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 3: USC slightly favored.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: And then they go to South Bend and we'll be

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Speaker 2: there a week from this Thursday. We'll be outside the stadium.

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Speaker 2: And do we know the name of the bar. We're

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Speaker 2: Bar Pub that's right there, Todd Legends, Legends.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be right outside Legends in the big parking

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Speaker 5: lot there, right near the stadium.

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Speaker 6: So it should be.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Okay, and we're going to have They're going to

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Speaker 2: allow us to have an audience there. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the weather's going to be like, but you know,

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Speaker 2: come out and have some fun. And once again, anybody

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Speaker 2: who shows up and if you stay, we will get

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Speaker 2: pictures and autographs after every show. That's something that we've

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Speaker 2: started at Super Bowls. And if we get the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: you guys make the effort, then we'd love to say hello, Yes, Paul, well.

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Speaker 3: Heather, it looks good. We're right in the shadows of

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Speaker 3: the stadium. Great place to be. Folliage time Midwest.

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Speaker 2: Oh peak foliage, Yes, peak foliage. So that'll be big

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Speaker 2: ten Saturday night in Michigan against USC eight seven to seven,

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Speaker 2: three DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your

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Speaker 2: phone calls. I don't know if they're two teams headed

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Speaker 2: in opposite directions, but I will say maybe that gap

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Speaker 2: between the Chiefs and everybody else in the AFC is

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Speaker 2: not as wide as it used to be. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: two and three through five games for just the second

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Speaker 2: time in the last ten years, and then you have

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Speaker 2: the Jags are four and one, their best start since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven when they started out four and one.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs had their opportunities, a bad kickoff by Harrison, Butker

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Speaker 2: put the Jags at the forty and give credit Trevor

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Speaker 2: Lawrence had a couple of dimes there and then the

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Speaker 2: stumble Rooskie. It sounded like this, Trevor under center.

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Speaker 1: He literally fell down.

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Speaker 7: Trevor fell down on the play.

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Speaker 8: Charn't you to.

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Speaker 5: Play run cut down down?

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Speaker 9: He got up under the play.

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Speaker 2: I got Tampa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence, Okay, they didn't have

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Speaker 4: He was probably gonna spike the ball.

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Speaker 2: Stop the I don't know if the call matches the

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Speaker 2: actual play because Lawrence makes way. It makes something out

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Speaker 2: of nothing because his guard comes back and then trips

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Speaker 2: a little opening and scores the touchdown. Patrick Mahomes through

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Speaker 2: a pick six. He's never won a game when he's

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Speaker 2: thrown a pick six, zero for five in the regular

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Speaker 2: season and owen one in the postseason. All right, Seaton

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Speaker 2: Poll question for the final hour of the program. Christopher

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Speaker 2: mad Dog Russo will join us in about twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: from now.

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Speaker 8: Let's see, we got a new one here from Polly

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Speaker 8: uh Next fall, Bill Belichick will be dot dot dot

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Speaker 8: North Cary four. Oh, okay, the North Carolina head coach

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Speaker 8: working for an NFL team, working in the media or unemployed.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody and somebody that I respect in the business,

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Speaker 2: who said, could you see Bella going to the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: I go, I would say.

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Speaker 2: No, but I don't like Miami's ready to move on

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Speaker 2: from Mike McDaniel. But maybe And I said, wait, are

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Speaker 2: you talking about now? And he said no, at the

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Speaker 2: end of the season. Could you see Belichick just going

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he has the enthusiasm to do this.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not college like, there's nothing college like him.

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Speaker 2: He's not one of those raw ra guys. I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine him recruiting. Cannot imagine, you know, meeting with parents

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Speaker 2: get him fired up. And just I can't The reason

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Speaker 2: there is an article w r A L sports anchor

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Speaker 2: and reporter Pat Welter. Multiple sources with knowledge of the

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Speaker 2: inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say North Carolina's football

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Speaker 2: losses a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized

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Speaker 2: coaching staff, and a failure to communicate. Now, when you

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Speaker 2: say a divided locker room, that's because you have players

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Speaker 2: who came in transfer portal seventy players and then you

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Speaker 2: in did get nil money. Multiple sources with knowledge of

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Speaker 2: the inner workings of Belichick's program say results in the

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Speaker 2: field or a product of a divided locker room. It's

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Speaker 2: an unstructured mess. A source with firsthand knowledge of the

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Speaker 2: program told WRAL there's no culture, no organization. It's a

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Speaker 2: complete disaster for a guy who made his reputation on

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Speaker 2: being a defensive guy. And North Carolina's program was being

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Speaker 2: sold as the thirty third NFL team. Through five games,

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Speaker 2: the tar Heels rank one hundred and twenty eighth in

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Speaker 2: points allowed per game. Do you realize there's only one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six NCAA Division One football programs in FBS,

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Speaker 2: so they're one twenty eight out of one thirty six.

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Speaker 7: STATA the J start of the J we love your.

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Speaker 8: Statu, the day stata, the j stata, the j oh

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Speaker 8: damn give us.

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Speaker 4: Say thank you? Thank you? Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 3: You know, usually great college coaches that go to the

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Speaker 3: college because it worked. Like Nick Saban when it didn't

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Speaker 3: work out with the Dolphins, there was a line to

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Speaker 3: doesn't work out. Who wouldn't want to bring in Steve Spurr.

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Speaker 3: Does it not feel that way with Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 3: the NFL, Like it feels like it's the flame out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's because of his age too. Nobody's going

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Speaker 2: to take on his seventy three year old guy. How

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Speaker 2: long is he going to coach for? How enthusiastic is he?

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Speaker 3: I disagree a little bit because, like Pete Carroll gets

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Speaker 3: another job, if Nick Saban announced today he wanted to

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Speaker 3: work again, he would have fifty teams calling. I just

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Speaker 3: think that the brand of Belichick has been so hurt

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Speaker 3: the past year and a half that it's not even

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Speaker 2: Well, Pete Carroll has enthusiasm. Pete Carroll, you know he

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Speaker 2: think he'd be successful? Well, how long? Where's he going?

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Speaker 2: And you know the turnaround time. It's not like Mac

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Speaker 2: Brown ran a terrible program there. They reached for the

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Speaker 2: stars and they got Belichick. I don't think Bill was

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Speaker 2: getting hired any other place. The Falcons didn't hire him Welkins,

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Speaker 2: So I don't think he's I can't see him coming

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Speaker 2: I just want to know if he's all in like

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Speaker 2: that would be. It feels like they thought this was

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Speaker 2: in the ACC. I mean it's not the SEC and

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Speaker 2: it's not the Big Ten.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, I think post tom Brady, his reputation really

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Speaker 10: took a hit right after Tom Brady left because a

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Speaker 10: lot of people this is the great coach, Like, we

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Speaker 10: don't want to put up with this if we don't

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Speaker 10: have Tom Brady and win all these championships.

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Speaker 11: We're only putting up with this.

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Speaker 10: Because we know we'll get to a super Bowl or

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Speaker 10: at least content for one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he doesn't have his quarterback. He brought in

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Speaker 2: one that got injured. Now he's got Brad Johnson's son

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Speaker 4: You're just watching it.

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Speaker 2: They just don't seem like there's any pulse, like there's

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Speaker 2: no excitement. They almost feel that it gets to the inevitable.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna lose, but by how much. But as far

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Speaker 2: as Belichick, I'm going to give him the respect that

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Speaker 2: he's coming back for one more year. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know what his personal life is like. Is he excited

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Speaker 2: about being a coach. That would be the one thing

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Speaker 2: I would wonder. And you're bringing in all these transfers.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to bring in transfer no matter if you're

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Speaker 2: an established coach or not. Bill hasn't coached in college,

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Speaker 2: not as a head coach, and you're bringing in seventy players,

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Speaker 2: new players, and then a quick turnaround.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pulling Deon Sanders did this exact same game plan

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Speaker 3: with transfers in twenty twenty three. They got a lot

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Speaker 3: of pub They were only four and eight that year,

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Speaker 3: but the following season he had a lot of talent.

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Speaker 3: They were nine and four and for Colorado fans, nine wins.

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Speaker 3: They were begging for that for fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not exactly playing a you know, a

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Speaker 2: tough schedule. You got your son as your quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: you got Travis who is the best player in America.

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Speaker 2: I mean they were going to improve and then they

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Speaker 2: got an offensive line and then they were formidable. But

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Speaker 2: this isn't happening with Bill. I mean, Dion's gonna sell now.

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Speaker 2: He's got a personality. Bill doesn't have that. Bill doesn't

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Speaker 2: He's not doing that. You're lucky to play for him.

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Speaker 2: It's not he's lucky.

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Speaker 4: To have you. Aiden in Utah? Hi, Aiden? What's on

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Speaker 4: your mind?

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Speaker 12: ADP? Good morning? I got two things real quick. First thing,

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Speaker 12: Fritzy twenty thirteen Super Bowl Denver Seattle. When Seattle scores

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Speaker 12: their seventh touchdown, how do you want Broncos radio network

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Speaker 12: to react to that? You want them to have some enthusiasm.

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Speaker 6: They probably do not have enthusiasm. You have to recall

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Speaker 6: it as it is.

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Speaker 5: But I understand the emotion has to be you know,

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Speaker 5: you have to consider the emotion when you're doing a

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Speaker 5: local game.

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Speaker 6: But there's got to be a little bit of a

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Speaker 6: happy medium.

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Speaker 4: It's you're not getting out of this. You know that

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Speaker 4: I'm not getting out of it. No, you're not.

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Speaker 6: You stuck that enthusiasm What I mean everyone's jumping on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was looking for the word there that you

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Speaker 4: were finding the word. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Well then now somehow acknowledging a big play by the

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Speaker 5: other team that but not enthusiastically. There's got to be

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Speaker 5: another word for that, not reveling. You're not cheering for

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Speaker 5: that to happen.

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Speaker 2: Rody in New Mexico. Hey, Rody, By the way, if

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Speaker 2: Belichick would go to the Dolphins, then he could become

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Speaker 2: the all time winning his coach while doing it with

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Speaker 2: Don Shuler's team. If that would actually happen. Okay, Hey Rody,

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan, good more, good morning.

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Speaker 9: So I got two things I'm allowed Fritzy, I'm a

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Speaker 9: Denver Bronco fan. Last Friday he said I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 9: Denver probably lose to the Eagles or something like that.

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Speaker 9: We got to stick together, we got to have better attitudes.

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Speaker 9: And another things, Dan, is the Chiefs are they getting

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Speaker 9: Are they worse? Or is the rest of NFL learn

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Speaker 9: how to play them to beat them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that was a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: There weren't going to be these big plays. So they

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the phone call, But yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that they defense has figured out this is the

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul the new coach to the Jaguars co and

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Speaker 2: Buck Well, they didn't know where he was. And then

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Speaker 3: He was goofy's but it's good when he's when you're winning,

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's see Kinsley in Indiana. Kinsley, Hi, hey Kinsley.

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Speaker 13: For ten eighty three pounds.

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Speaker 4: All right, what's on your mind? Kinsley?

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Speaker 13: I'm homesick with my dad watching the show. We're just

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Speaker 12: What building?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're going to be outside.

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Speaker 2: Now you would probably have to take off from school,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul I sent a sore throat coming later next

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Speaker 2: Sell it kid, if you would like to come out

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Speaker 2: All right, then you're good. We'll see you there in

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Speaker 2: and I hope you feel better.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's that's Kinsley.

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Speaker 6: That's adorable.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, Todd. We have two people who are

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, do any of you guys? I know the answer.

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Speaker 3: But have a memory where your dad pulled you out

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Speaker 14: No, none, no, wow, All right back to you, Marvin,

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Speaker 14: I know no, yeah, Mark, Marvin, definitely, definitely, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 6: I had the opposite happened to me.

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Speaker 5: I could see the little field from my apartment building,

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Speaker 6: The game that I was was repitching it.

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Speaker 4: You could have shut him down.

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Speaker 5: We probably still would have got killed, but it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: You were Clayton Kershaw before Clayton Kershaw, weren't you.

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Speaker 6: I had my moments.

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl between the Giants and the Broncos. Chris,

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Speaker 2: good to see you again. Finish this sentence. If the

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Speaker 17: Yeah, big embarrassment. Good job, Danny, why's a pleasure? Bull's

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Speaker 17: going nowhere? I think you could have made a case

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Speaker 17: You know, I'm the Yankees will probably chuck it up

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Speaker 17: This is the Yankees, who have the biggest payroll in

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Speaker 7: Because I do think you and I probably you love

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Speaker 7: But I don't think there's going to be any drastic changes.

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Speaker 17: I think they're relatively pleased with how the year went

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Speaker 7: I think they're chalcoling up.

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Speaker 17: They ran into a buzzsaw in his Blue Jay team.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this in the first hour of the show.

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Speaker 2: There have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches of

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Speaker 7: That is analytics, Danny. And there's too many relievers.

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Speaker 17: You know, it was so much fun to see Scruble

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Speaker 17: They've ruled the aspect of it, the entertainment aspect of it.

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Speaker 7: That's why it was good to see the Yankee.

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Speaker 17: Watching him perform late in these playoff games when you

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Speaker 2: But you know, the dog your starting staff has been great.

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Speaker 17: comes out, they got a four up in lead, and

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Speaker 17: you know, if they don't make a great play in

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Speaker 17: that bunt, who knows, they might lose a historically bad

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Speaker 17: game blowing a full one lead in the ninth, and

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Speaker 17: maybe they show some vulnerability together a little nervous Philadelphia

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Speaker 17: feels good about themselves.

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Speaker 7: They get to split it home.

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Speaker 17: And you know, we have a situation where the Dodgers

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Speaker 17: gonna get kicked off. Now you know they're up to Oh,

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Speaker 17: they're going to figure out a way to win another

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Speaker 17: game and they're.

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Speaker 7: Gonna win that series.

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Speaker 17: The Dodgers issue, as you just said, is that short

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Speaker 17: relief in that seventh, eighth and ninth inning. And now

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Speaker 17: we'll see maybe this twenty one year old is going

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Speaker 17: to be the answer. They spend the game two on

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Speaker 17: and fifty million, and he did a great job in

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Speaker 17: Game one, so maybe they have corrected that too. I

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Speaker 17: mean the Dodgers are you know, they don't. They're a

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Speaker 17: great team. I mean, Dan, think about their team. They

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Speaker 17: are top three in the lineup, is tremendous. Then you

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Speaker 17: got Taoscar Hernandez, kik Hernandez gets big hits, Will Smith,

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Speaker 17: who's hurt.

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Speaker 7: We all know how good he is. Let's throw on

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Speaker 7: Max Muncy.

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Speaker 17: And then they have, you know, guys like snell Yamamoto,

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Speaker 17: Old tany Oh.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, here's Glasno making two in a

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Speaker 7: million a pitch him in Game four. I mean, they

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Speaker 7: are a great, great team.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Christopher mad Dog Russo mad Dog unleashed on Sirius XM

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Speaker 2: channel eighty two and he is one of the host

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Speaker 2: co hosts of ESPN's First Take. I thought about you

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Speaker 2: on this topic that we use championships as a metric

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Speaker 2: for greatness for quarterbacks and NBA players, but we don't

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Speaker 2: do that for baseball players.

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Speaker 4: Why yeah, I.

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Speaker 17: Mean, because you know Ted Williams never won a title,

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Speaker 17: but he only gets up four times a game, and

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Speaker 17: is it his fault?

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Speaker 7: That they never had any tremendous starting pitching.

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Speaker 17: You know, cob never won a title with Detroit, and

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Speaker 17: he's one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 7: Never won a title, lost a couple of World Series. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean it is a little tricky. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: know Madden, he never won a championship with the Yankees.

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Speaker 17: I think it's because the pitcher dominates so much. So

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Speaker 17: if we look at baseball from from an eight man perspective,

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Speaker 17: we don't look at it that.

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Speaker 7: Way because there's not as much impact they can have

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Speaker 7: on a game.

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Speaker 17: With the baseball debate about the great Hall of Famer

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Speaker 17: in the big spot, we do with the pitching because

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Speaker 17: he's going to get the ball a couple of times

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Speaker 17: in a short series. And that is where I have

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Speaker 17: always had some trouble with Kershaw because Kershaw he's won

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Speaker 17: of I and Kershaw is a tremendous regular season pitcher,

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Speaker 17: but if you look at Kershaw in the postseason.

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Speaker 7: He's been very mediocre.

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Speaker 17: He's got a four to four to five ERA, he's

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Speaker 17: given up thirty home runs in his postseason starts, and

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Speaker 17: he has never been a great postseason performer.

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Speaker 7: That is the one.

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Speaker 17: Guy that you can label like the quarterback, like the

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Speaker 17: center in basketball, that for whatever the reason, his regular

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Speaker 17: season prowess doesn't translate into the postseason. And he did

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Speaker 17: win a title in twenty twenty in the in the

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Speaker 17: pandemic and beat Tampa, and he pitched pretty well in

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Speaker 17: that run. He pitched good in Game five. But we

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Speaker 17: don't look at it the same way because the everyday

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Speaker 17: player Danny, as you know, doesn't have the same influence

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Speaker 17: on a game as the starting pitcher has. So when

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Speaker 17: we look at it in baseball, if you want to

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Speaker 17: grade the starting you know, Maddix was never great in

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Speaker 17: the postseason.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 17: Three, seven, four, lifetime, all right, never great in a postseason.

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Speaker 7: And that's why a guy like Smolts and that's.

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Speaker 17: Why a guy like you know, to a certain degree shilling,

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Speaker 17: that's why you know you'd like to have them in

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Speaker 17: a big game because you're confidence in them in a

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Speaker 17: big spot. Their regular season isn't as good, but you

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Speaker 17: know what a big game you can rely on it.

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Speaker 17: So I think it's more the pitcher that you discussed

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Speaker 17: more than the everyday player.

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Speaker 2: I got into it with Peter King. We kind of

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Speaker 2: went back and forth on the Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 2: we were talking about, you know, that is Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: playing himself out of the Hall of Fame, And I said,

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Speaker 2: you know, Matthew Stafford has one Super Bowl win and

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Speaker 2: I think he was a pro bowler one time. Russ

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Speaker 2: got to two Super Bowls and he was a pro

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Speaker 2: bowler ten times. So his regular season stats are better

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Speaker 2: than Eli Mannings. But so it feels Manning's going in.

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Speaker 2: People don't debate that, but Russ is playing his way

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Speaker 2: out of the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a very that's going to be a very

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Speaker 17: close vote. I think that pass hurts him too. The

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Speaker 17: interception against the Patriots. You know, with Malcolm Butler one

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Speaker 17: of the worst.

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Speaker 7: It hurts Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 17: It's one of the worst players of all time, and

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Speaker 17: he throws a pick which would't won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 17: I think that is a little bit of a factor.

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Speaker 17: You know, he's been on a million teams. Now, you know,

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Speaker 17: Denver didn't work well, the Giants hasn't worked well, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 17: didn't work well, ended poorly in Seattle. I think that's

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Speaker 17: a problem too. I think your point about Stafford is fair.

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Speaker 17: He's very underrated historically. I mean he was on a

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Speaker 17: bad Detroit team. I understand, you know, God played well

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Speaker 17: for the Lions, but he was on a bad Lions team.

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Speaker 7: He's done a great job for the Rams. He plays

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Speaker 7: well in big games.

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Speaker 17: You know last year they had the Eagles beat he

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Speaker 17: played great, played well in the Super Bowl, played well

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Speaker 17: two years ago in Detroit in the playoff game. Stafford's

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Speaker 17: very underrated historically, and he's going to be a Hall

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Speaker 17: of Famer. And Manning, Danny is about five games, Let's

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Speaker 17: be honest. Manning is about a game in two games

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Speaker 17: in Green Bay. It's about a game in San Francisco,

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Speaker 17: and it's a two games against Brady.

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Speaker 7: That is Manning's career.

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Speaker 17: Now, five heroic games beat Brady, especially the second one

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Speaker 17: you know, got beat up against the Niners was great,

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Speaker 17: you know, green Bay and minus two degree weather, he

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Speaker 17: out played far he and he won two titles.

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Speaker 7: So and he did it in New York, which you

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Speaker 7: know is a big factor too.

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Speaker 17: Very few quarterbacks outside of Plunkett, you know who didn't

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Speaker 17: get He's not going to make the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 17: But if you win two Super Bowls, chances all you're

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Speaker 17: gonna make it.

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Speaker 7: And he did it in New York, and he beat

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Speaker 7: Brady twice. But his career, if.

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Speaker 17: You look at Manning and you be fair about it,

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Speaker 17: his career comes down to five games.

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Speaker 7: Now they're postseason games. They come down to five games.

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Speaker 17: Wilson's a better regular season quarterback than Manning, but not

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Speaker 17: the postseason success. Stafford is a better quarterback than Manning,

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Speaker 17: but not the postseason success too. And you and I

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Speaker 17: probably if my life came down to it, I would

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Speaker 17: definitely take Stafford over Manning. Would you take Wilson over Manning?

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Speaker 17: Game the win field life? Who would you take Wilson

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Speaker 17: or Manning? I'd probably take Manning. I probably would.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me throw this out.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it, stef If David Tyree doesn't make

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Speaker 2: that catch, Chris, they don't win the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so like that's he didn't go to the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame.

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Speaker 7: I agree with you. Excellent play and the and the.

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Speaker 2: And the first win in the Super Bowl was the

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Speaker 2: defensive front. They crushed.

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Speaker 7: That was it. Yeah, they and he won the MVP

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Speaker 7: in that game, Manning.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, but he shouldn't have been you know, that

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Speaker 2: should be in the defensive line.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, very much like Grady's first year against Saint Louis.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he shouldn't have won the MVP either, ven A

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Speaker 7: Terry could have wonted.

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Speaker 17: The defense did a great job on Warner, but the

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Speaker 17: quarterback gets to break.

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Speaker 7: But you are one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 17: You can make a very strong case that David Tyree

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Speaker 17: is the reason.

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Speaker 7: Eli's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, because one super Bowl would not do it.

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Speaker 7: It would have.

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Speaker 17: Taken It needs the eaty, his body of work needs

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Speaker 17: a second title, and he got it, and he got it.

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Speaker 7: That turned out to be his first title, but he

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Speaker 7: got it. Now.

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Speaker 17: He did a great job in the play. He dodged

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Speaker 17: the rush. He you know, he found the open man.

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Speaker 17: He did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter with

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Speaker 17: his offense. They would you know it was what was

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Speaker 17: the score? I think it was seven to three, maybe

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Speaker 17: whatever the score was. I mean he did have two

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Speaker 17: drives in the fourth quarter, Kevin boss Court, the t

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Speaker 17: you know.

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Speaker 7: The tight end quarter pass.

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Speaker 17: But you're right one hundred percent now, But that goes

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Speaker 17: back to the original question.

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Speaker 7: You had a game of Dan Patrick had a game

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Speaker 7: for his life. Would you take Manning or would you

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Speaker 7: take Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: If if I get Russ Seattle, Seattle, Russ, I would take.

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Speaker 17: Him because of his run and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was the best player on the field in

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Speaker 2: that game, that Super Bowl that he lost.

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Speaker 4: New England had no answer for him. He was unbelievable

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Speaker 4: in that game.

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Speaker 2: And it's you know, do you agree that Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: and Darryl Beble wanted him to be the MVP and

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Speaker 2: not Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 4: You call the pass.

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Speaker 2: Play, it's like we blame Russell instead of crediting Malcolm

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Speaker 2: Butler with an unbelievable play and Russ, why you would

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Speaker 2: call that instead of a run pass option, Like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: But you know.

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Speaker 7: If you well, Pete Carroll, I agree with you on

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Speaker 7: that point. Pete Carroll's a number one goat of that game.

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Speaker 7: It's not Wilson.

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Speaker 17: I mean, they called the wrong play and they got

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Speaker 17: more Shawn Lynch sitting there, So you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 7: Wilson is not that, but he's number two or Bevil's too.

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Speaker 7: Take your pick.

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Speaker 17: The coaches are one and then the quarterbacks two. But

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Speaker 17: I think that your other point is a good point.

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Speaker 17: I think they're a look at mat but he had

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Speaker 17: a bad back.

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Speaker 7: But you get the idea. Sometimes how you.

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Speaker 17: End your career, if you're a borderline Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 17: is more important than what you did in your career.

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Speaker 17: And Wilson is going to end his career, you know,

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Speaker 17: in a way that is not impressive, and that is

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Speaker 17: going to be your lasting memory of him against you know,

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Speaker 17: the Steelers and the Giants and Denver and Peyton and

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Speaker 17: Sean Payton got him out of there, and he didn't

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Speaker 17: finish well in Seattle, and I think because of that,

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Speaker 17: we seem to forget for an eight or.

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Speaker 7: Nine year period he was a great quarterback, and you

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Speaker 7: are right, he was.

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Speaker 17: Great, but the last three or four, four or five

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Speaker 17: he's been very average. Manning ended his career with the

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Speaker 17: same team, and the lasting impression of Manning in a

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Speaker 17: lot of ways and Troy Aikman, we even brought it

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Speaker 17: up last night, was the Mario manningham pass which beat Brady.

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Speaker 17: He mentioned it in the game last night. So as

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Speaker 17: a result of that, I.

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Speaker 7: Think that you know, I think Manning, you know, you

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Speaker 7: don't have a bad taste in your mouth. Now, do

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Speaker 7: you agree with me go back to pitching for a second.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 17: I know everybody loves Kershaw, but do you agree with

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Speaker 17: me that Kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been

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Speaker 17: so good in the regular season and the average baseball

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Speaker 17: fan doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason pitcher.

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Speaker 17: You think I'm being too harsh there, or do you

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Speaker 17: think there's a good point to be made.

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Speaker 2: I heard you say this on your show and it

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Speaker 2: felt like you were going out of your way to it.

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Speaker 7: Did you felt that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, Maddix and Glavin weren't good postseason pitchers.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and we don't mention that very often about

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Speaker 2: those two guys. And Maddix won three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: four games, I mean Kershaw, Yes, that that is bad,

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Speaker 2: bad numbers, bad numbers, but when you win that title,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Maddox, they won one World Series, so that's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Hershaw just I don't understand this.

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Speaker 2: There's certain guys that were great in the postseason and

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Speaker 2: they were good in you know, Jack Morris or Smoltz

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Speaker 2: or Shilling. They just love the moment and I you know,

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Speaker 2: I just have great appreciation for them. But yeah, it

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Speaker 2: did feel like you were.

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Speaker 7: Well, I gotta be careful with that. Dad just said that.

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Speaker 17: I take when you tell me that, I'll be careful

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Speaker 17: and I'll be fair about Kershaw.

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Speaker 7: And well, I know you got to run, but I'll

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Speaker 7: be fair on Kershaw. You know the old eye.

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Speaker 17: You know what happened in Game five in twenty and

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Speaker 17: seventeen again juice, I mean, supposedly that's when the Astros

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Speaker 17: are cheating folks with your cans. And supposedly they laid

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Speaker 17: to Tom Praducci to me this, and he would know.

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Speaker 17: Supposedly they laid off thirty eight sliders in the game

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Speaker 17: and he got bombed. In that game they lost thirteen twelve.

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Speaker 17: They laid off thirty eight sliders. Now did they lay

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Speaker 17: off thirty eight sliders or they know where they were coming.

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Speaker 17: If that's the case, maybe you give Kershaw a big break.

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Speaker 17: I don't know how you feel about it, but that's Chris.

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Speaker 2: I ran into somebody who in the Astros organization this

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Speaker 2: summer and he said that Kershaw was tipping his pitches.

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Speaker 2: So yes, he said, we knew because I talked about

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Speaker 2: the cheating. He goes, No, Kershaw, who's tipping his pitches?

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Speaker 2: I said, but you guys still cheat it. He said, yes, yes, well.

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Speaker 17: Then you gotta trust So then the question becomes, do

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Speaker 17: you trust a guy who told you that or is

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Speaker 17: he trying to protect his team from not taking something

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Speaker 17: away from that?

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Speaker 4: Great, it is great to see you. Thanks again for.

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Speaker 2: That's Christopher mad Dog Russo you'll see him on First

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Speaker 2: Phil Simms and Kyle Brandt. Take a break, last call

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Speaker 2: We started out the show, we were talking about Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: He's going to make his quote unquote second decision and

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Speaker 2: would this be.

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Speaker 4: About his retirement and I was saying.

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Speaker 2: No, this is going to be something that is product related. Well,

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Speaker 2: here is Lebron James talking about making his second decision.

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Speaker 18: Well, everyone's on pens and needles. Across the country. You

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Speaker 18: ready to go, Lebron, where's the powder left it at home? Lebron?

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Speaker 18: Fans want to know where you're taking your talents this year.

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Speaker 18: What's your decision In it's fall, man, this is tough.

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Speaker 1: In it's fall, I'm going to be taking my talents

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Speaker 1: to HENNESSYVSOP VSOP.

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Speaker 18: And this was the conclusion you woke up with this morning.

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Speaker 11: That was a conclusion I woke up with this morning.

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Speaker 10: Why I feel like it's gonna give me the best

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Speaker 10: opportunity to win more at hosting.

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Speaker 11: Not only that, win a signature cocktails. We're not having

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Speaker 11: a good time. We had a pressing guests, ween at.

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Speaker 10: Making memory, we at making it look easy, win at

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Speaker 10: leaving people wanting more.

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Speaker 2: Hmm Okay, well it went as I thought it would.

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Speaker 2: That they would kind of mock the Jim Gray decision

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Speaker 2: and when he took his talents to South Beach, so

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Speaker 2: kind of went as scripted. Didn't know what the product

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Speaker 2: was going to be. But now it's it's Hennessy.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul had the opposite effect on me and pick

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Speaker 3: up some more Hennessy after the show. It worked if

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Speaker 3: I could buy more and buy.

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Speaker 4: More okay, all right, Uh, Marvin, how would you grade that?

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Speaker 11: Laugh?

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Speaker 4: Todd? How about you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I found it a little cringey. Didn't love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seating exactly what thought it was going to be. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's not announcing his retirement like this. Slightly embarrassed for

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Speaker 4: even paying attention to it. Really from being here. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: As soon as he started, you know, they did the

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Speaker 4: well where's the powder?

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Speaker 2: I no, okay, Well, you know, maybe Hennessy's getting what

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Speaker 2: they wanted. You got publicity here, yes, Mormon.

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Speaker 11: I know Michael Jordan wouldn't do this, couldn't help us.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, alrighty.

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Speaker 2: Final results of the poll questions, Seaton, if you'll run

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Speaker 2: through those this day in Sports History, last call for

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Speaker 2: phone calls. Mike Greenberg. Greeney is going to join us

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Speaker 2: on the program tomorrow, Get Up and Uh. Jimmy Raw

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Speaker 2: former Philly he's doing some TV work while rooting for

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Speaker 2: the Phillies during the Phillies Dodgers series, So he'll join us, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Satan.

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Speaker 8: Seventy percent of the audience, Ay, Trevor Lawrence's career is

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Speaker 8: going to be disappointing rather than great, and next fall,

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichick will be unemployed. That's fifty two millions, followed

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Speaker 8: by working in the media.

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Speaker 4: I don't get that.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe in a studio role, but can't see

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Speaker 2: him breaking down games during a game moves too quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Do you think Bill Belichick in that situation would be

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Speaker 8: more likely to be fired or quit if he's no

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Speaker 8: longer at North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it'll be a buyout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So maybe a combination of we don't want you, okay,

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Speaker 2: pay me, and then I'll leave.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Tom, Yeah, I see that mutual parting of ways,

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Speaker 5: which we all know was never fifty to fifty down

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Speaker 5: the middle of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how much enthusiasm he has for this.

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Speaker 2: I just I never get that feeling.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's priorities appear to have changed a little bit this

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Speaker 2: day in sports history, Paul, just.

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Speaker 3: One of our favorites. Nineteen eighteen, Georgia Tech football beat

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Speaker 3: Cumberland College two hundred and twenty two to zero. Georgia

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Speaker 3: Tech ran the ball every play for nine hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy eight yards, not one.

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Speaker 2: Pass, okay, and then they named the Heisman after John Heisman,

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Speaker 2: who was the head coach at Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, front runner.

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Speaker 2: What happened to sportsmanship? Yes, like John Heisman scheduled Cumberland College.

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Speaker 3: Cumberly got a payout check though big payout.

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Speaker 2: Oh they did ah huge? Yeah yeah, yeah they're nil.

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Speaker 2: Players didn't step up back then, Todd? Would you learn today?

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Speaker 5: You don't know how good his team is going to be,

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Speaker 5: but you're calling it seven five point center?

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Speaker 6: Wendy will be the NBA MVP this coming season.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I forgot that? I said Luka

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Speaker 2: don Chik would be the MVP, so I have to

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Speaker 2: go with that. But Wemby will finish second, all right,

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Speaker 2: Seaton stumble Rooskie is a new play. Yeah, the stumble Rooski. Marvin,

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Speaker 2: what did you learn?

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Speaker 11: Apparently going to a cookout is a punishment?

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Speaker 4: Paul? What did you learn?

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Speaker 3: It's Tennessee time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Todd, what did I learn?

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Speaker 6: We all learned?

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Speaker 5: You got caught up in Cooper flagging all the NBA

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Speaker 5: preseason action last night that was going on.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody. We'll be back tomorrow. Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick's Show,