1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Castro alleged DJ Bucky back with you, Buck. How you doing, man, Man, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm good. I can't complain. Man. It's always fun time 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: as we get close and close to the draft. Uh, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: it is a busy time, to say the least. We've 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: been grinding away here. I think if you turn on 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: the television as the chance you're gonna see one of 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: not both of us at this point in time and 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: in the year cranking out the content for you as 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: well on NFL dot Com, and more importantly, we get 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: to have these chats here together on Move the Sticks. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Um today, Buck, we we've got kind of a shorter episode, 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: but it's gonna feature a conversation with I think, really 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: I would say a rising star went in the football 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: world in terms of developing the most important position. Yeah. 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: John Beck has been a fascinating guy to watch. Um. 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, having had the opportunity to talk to him, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's interesting for me is 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: I scouted him. I remember we was at b y U. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: I remember going through there before you embarked on a 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: nice solid NFL career and Watchington played the quarterback position. 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: He has now taken all that knowledge and expertise and 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: he's now pouring into young quarterbacks, and we will talk 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: about the guys that he's currently training, Zach Wilson and 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and some others. He is really helping these 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: guys not only work on their mechanics, but learn how 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: to play the game. So I'm fascinated to hear this conversation. 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: You just heat it up beautifully here. Um, I have 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: since this conversation, I had a chance to talk with 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: John on the phone, so I'm I'm excited to listen 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: to this for the first time because I had I'm 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: sure I had a lot of the same questions that 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: you did. But one of the more fascinating guys when 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: it comes to the quarterback position is John Beck. So 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: here's Bucky's conversation with the up and coming Let's throw 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: it on him quarterback guru. Hey man, you guys obviously 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: have a loaded class. You have a couple of good 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: quarterback prospects to get to. But I kind of want 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: to talk to you about making the transition from being 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: a former NFL orter back to now being a quarterback trainer. 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: How did you go along that path? Well, you know, 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: when you when you play quarterback, it's obviously because you 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: love the position. You love the investment of time, sacrifice, 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: you love just the craft that goes into trying to 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: become the best player you can be, and so it 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: was an easy transition for me quite frankly. You know, 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: of course, there's nothing like playing the game, There's nothing 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: like being the guy out there. But I think the 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: second best thing is helping the guys that are out 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: there and kind of taking my experiences that I've had 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: and then using that to help them be the best 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: they can be. You know, it's funny because you played 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: at b BY you had a terrific career by you, 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I played with some b y U players, Todd Depmer 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and Jim McMahon both we spent time together in Green Bay, 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and it's always been a thing where b YU develops quarterbacks. 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: What is it about your experience is at b YU 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: that enabled you to not only play in the National 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Football League, but to now pass on that knowledge to 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: others who aspire to play at that high level. Yeah, 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: it is a special group there There's been a lot 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: of great quarterbacks at the come through, and I know 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: in my time there, with that legacy of quarterbacks that 65 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: have gone before me, you want to be a part 66 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, there's a high expectation that's 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: there when you're the quarterback of that university. But it's 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: exciting to be a part of it. It's a great challenge. 69 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: And when things are good, it's usually because the quarterback 70 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: position is rolling there. And we see we saw this 71 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: last year with Zack Wilson and the great job that 72 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: he did, and now it's an exciting thing for him 73 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: to come out of b y U and be another 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: one of those guys. And and then in terms of 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: how I helped the other quarterbacks, I think every quarterback 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: has to be able to deal with expectations. They have 77 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to be able to do with that pressure and that standard. 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: So some of those lessons that I've learned of coming 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: from a place like that playing for some organizations in 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: the NFL that have had great quarterbacks as well, it's 81 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: just being able to recognize how special it is to 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: be a part of that legacy of quarterbacks. And then 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: also just there is always an expectation there's an expectation 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: of performance, of efficiency, and it's part of the job 85 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: that you have to be able to just handle each 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: and every day you go out there. But it's exciting. 87 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: It's a part that I quite frankly miss, but it's 88 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: exciting that I get to help these guys, uh take 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: on that challenge themselves. Well, it has to be extra 90 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: excited when you're able to see someone really blossom right 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: in front of your eyes at your alma mater. Zack 92 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Wilson really had a breakthrough season in talk a little 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: bit about your relationship with him. Where you guys first 94 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: met and how do you kind of have developed this 95 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: relationship over the past few years. Yeah. I had a 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: chance to meet Zack during his freshman year. He graduated 97 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: high school early. He was one of those early graduates 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: that in Rose in January. The way I met Zack 99 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: was his uncle was actually bringing his son out, Zack's 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: cousin doing some work with us, and he just said, Hey, 101 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I really think that my nephew needs to come out 102 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: here and take a look at this. And so I 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: got to meet him right after springballers freshman year and 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: he's been training with us for I think it's coming 105 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: up on three years now, and it's been great. It's 106 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: been great to see his development as a player. He's 107 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: always been really special in terms of athleticism and how 108 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: much he loves the game, his approach and his drive 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: towards becoming the best can be. But it's been cool 110 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: to see that maturation process in terms of decision making, 111 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: also in terms of just rising to even becoming a 112 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: better player. Each year he always set out with I 113 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: want to improve in these areas and how to kind 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: of tie in his athleticism and all those things and 115 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: his arm talent, and each year see how that's kind 116 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: of like jumped the level, jump the level. And then 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: this year, I mean quite frankly, he went out there 118 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and put together an amazing year. And it's been cool 119 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: to see because it's been three years. It's not something 120 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: where in years past, I meet a guy in January 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: where they play their final bowl game or playoff game, 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: I meet them in January and we start working. This 123 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: has been different. This has been knowing him since he 124 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: was eighteen years old, and to to see that kind 125 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: of dream come to life and now he's going to 126 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: be a top draft pick has been really cool. You know, 127 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: it's really cool, Oh Maya in as an evaluator, is 128 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: there really see the light come on for him when 129 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: you watch him this season? You see him make remarkable 130 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: plays and you also see his confidence bill week after 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: week after week. How have you seen him mature since 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: you guys have worked together and how did it really 133 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: come together this year? I think some things really fell 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: in place in terms of alignment there at the university. 135 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Right it's the same offense. He was able to have 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Grimes and Aaron Roderick as offensive coordinators, wide receiver 137 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: coach Uh Fessie. That was there that really keeping that 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: system in place allowed him to grow within the same system. 139 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: He wasn't needing to relearn an offense or have new 140 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: philosophies or concepts. So it was this continual let me 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: put something out during the season, and then he's the 142 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: type of guy that's gonna go back and watch every 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: single game three times and he's gonna go and take 144 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: notes every single time of all, right, here's what I did, 145 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: then what can I do now? And to see that 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: coupled with every day he came out here and worked 147 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: with us, it was always about what can I do? 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: To improve my game, to take myself to the elite level. 149 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: He wasn't just trying to be better than average. He 150 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be elite, and he was the same way 151 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: when he was a freshman and sophomore. But you know, 152 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: he had to battle through some things. He had a 153 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: surgery that he had to kind of work through, and 154 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: that makes it tough when you when you're trying to 155 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: prove as a player and you have to either learn 156 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: a new offense, overcome some type of injury through rehabilitation, 157 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: it's just not the same as when you get an 158 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: offseason to kind of come in and really just focus 159 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: on improving as a player in the same system. And 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: I think that coupled with the fact of having some 161 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: really good players around him. He had a really good 162 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: group of wide receivers. The running backs did a great job. 163 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: He had a great offensive line. Any quarterback knows if 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I want to play well, I depend so much on 165 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the guys around me. So you know, there's a lot 166 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: of areas that you can point a finger and say 167 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: it's because of this, it's because of this, it's because 168 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: of that, and it's the guys around him, it's the 169 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: coaches around him, and then right in the nucleus of 170 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: all that is how Zach approached everything. He has a 171 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: great approach to the game, and things really came together 172 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: for him this last year. Man, did it ever come 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: together for him? When I wrote in my notes while 174 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I was evaluating, I wrote down the natural because when 175 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I look at him, I think he plays a game 176 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: in a very natural fashion, meaning he could play on 177 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: script or off the script. He can make big boy throws, 178 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: but he also has the discipline to kind of take 179 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: things underneath. How hard is it to be a very 180 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: talented player but harness it and just take what the 181 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: defense gives you. How hard did you work with him 182 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: on that part of the game? Well, I think, you know, 183 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: in my in my job, there were some conversations, but 184 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure that his coaching staff, they're, like I said, 185 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the coordinators, they probably spent far more time discussing decision 186 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: making within a play. Um. You know, there were times 187 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: in the offseason that we would talk or sometimes even 188 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: in season, about just being smart. Sometimes very talented guys 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: when they're young, they want to do so much. They 190 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: have such a confidence in themselves and they haven't really 191 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: had those scars yet of you know, trying to do 192 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: too much, and so they're always willing to like go 193 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: for it, to push to to try to make the 194 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: great play. And I love that about Zack. And that's 195 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: where you when you talk about maturation as a quarterback, 196 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you see that that I'm learning how to be smart. 197 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm learning how to play within the downs. I'm learning 198 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: what can pay. I don't need to take that chance 199 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: right now because I know I can still do this. 200 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: And then when you couple that with his athleticism, at 201 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: any time time, he can make that game breaking play. 202 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to force that ball on second down 203 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: play to live another down, because you never know within 204 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: the game when that opportunity is to come, is is 205 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: going to come to just capitalize, And he's got all 206 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: the tools to capitalize in those big play moments. He's 207 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: got the mobility, he's got the arm strength. Like you said, 208 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: he's a natural player when it comes to throwing and 209 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: playing off platform. Opportunities will arise for him to make 210 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: great plays during a game. And you can see that 211 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: throughout his freshman and sophomore years. Just at times there 212 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: were those decisions of trying to do too much, and 213 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I think as I look at this last year, man, 214 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: he just seemed like in such control of managing games, 215 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: of knowing when to take those opportunities and knowing when 216 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: to just let me live to play another down. You know, 217 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: it's funny because you mentioned his confidence um when you're 218 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: working with them on it, Like what is that? What 219 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: is this confidence level? Like when you watch him practice 220 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: and then when you watch him perform. Yeah, you know, 221 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I get to see him an environment here during his 222 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: off seasons. I watch all the games, but I don't 223 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: get be around him during the week in preparation for 224 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the season. But out here you get this sense that 225 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: he just always is so willing to push through, Like 226 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: give me the next challenge, give me that tough throw, 227 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: because even if I don't get it today, I'm gonna 228 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: work on it and I'm gonna be aware of what 229 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I need to do, and when I come back, I'm 230 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna want to show you that I can make that throw. 231 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing that I really loved about the way 232 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: that Zack approached things. It was just this uh, this 233 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: excitement for give me that challenging throw, because he has 234 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that confidence of believing that, hey, I think I can 235 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: do it, and he's got that little bit of swagger, right, 236 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: He's got that little bit of like that that fine 237 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: line between cocky and confident. And I love that, and 238 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I think anyone that's played in the NFL knows that, 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Like you got to have that. So I loved in 240 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: our opportunities to work together to be able to push him, 241 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: like I push a lot of the pros. Sometimes you 242 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: get collegiate guys in there trying to figure it out, 243 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: and then you get that cool opportunity to work with 244 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: guys that you see so much of what you see 245 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: in the pros, where the guys that are succeeding at 246 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the next level they want that same challenge, Like I 247 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: have so many cool opportunities to work with guys, and 248 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I just I see that in their workouts. Push me, 249 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: push me, push me. They want it. They want to 250 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: be pushed to be that best. And Zack demonstrated that 251 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: from a young player all these years he's been with us. 252 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about Zach Wilson and how long 253 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: he's been with you guys, but you guys are also 254 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: working with Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields. Would have been 255 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: your impressions of Justin since you guys have connected. He's 256 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: been great. I've enjoyed every day I've had Justin out there. Um, 257 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, from the minute he came in. I didn't 258 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: have a chance to work with him before. So like 259 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: most times, you know, I watch a guy played during 260 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: the season, I see him playing this huge game against 261 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: Clemson and just absolutely just take over the game and 262 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: play amazing and do it through injury as well. And 263 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: you watch it on tape and you're wowed by a 264 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of things. And then you get to see him 265 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: in person, you get to meet him, and he's focused, 266 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: and he's determined, and he works hard, and he comes 267 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: out here, he competes, and it's been a really cool 268 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: situation to have Zack Justin. We also have Kyle Trask, 269 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: and these guys get out here every single day. And 270 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: we have k J. Costello as well, the Stanford transfer 271 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to Mississippi State. But these guys get out here and 272 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it is just a competition every single day. 273 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: And you can see why a guy like Justin Fields 274 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: was able to play on such a big stage. You 275 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: can see why when he goes in a playoff game 276 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: verse Clemson, Uh, he wants that he wants those moments, 277 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: And it's been an awesome experience for me to be 278 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: around him, to be in the film room, to get 279 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: up on the white board and talk through everything. You know, 280 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: the team that gets Justin is gonna really like what 281 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: he brings to the table. You know, it's funny you 282 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: bring you bring that up about the competitiveness between uh, 283 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: not only Zach Wilson and Justin, but the other guys 284 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: that are they are Kyle for asking kJ Costello, Um, 285 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: what is the one thing that might have surprised you 286 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: about Justin upon meeting him? I did not know that 287 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Justin had a background in baseball. And Justin's a very 288 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: athletic guy, Like you watch him on tape and you 289 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: just see this strong, powerful, like so hard to bring 290 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: down on the pocket. I was so impressed when I 291 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: got to talk through with him what he was going through, 292 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: what he's having to process, and then his ability to 293 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: make plays. And I mean, he just looks the part 294 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: of a guy that when he walks in the locker room, 295 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: you're like alpha. That dude just looks apart. But it 296 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: was so cool for me to know the backstory of 297 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: his life, just how involved he was in baseball, how 298 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: much baseball. He played to me right off the bat 299 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: that just as a coach, I see, Wow, there's so 300 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: much I can do with that background. All all these 301 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: guys that come from other sports. Immediately you know, oh 302 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, if he has this in his background, here's 303 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: what I can do if he has this in his background. 304 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: So it's been really cool to know that about Justin 305 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: and push him in some areas because he can make 306 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: those off script, you know, sliding left, make those tough 307 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: throws because of that background that he has. And so 308 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: to me, that was a really cool thing to figure 309 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: out and then apply that to our practice fielding some 310 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: of our workouts, you know quickly, uh cow trashs kJ Costello. 311 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: How has the training gone with him? What have you 312 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: learned from watching each of those guys kind of grow 313 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: up under your your watch a lot? Yeah, I've been 314 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: so impressed with all of him. I mean, Kyle has 315 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: just been so consistent every single day. He's a grinder. 316 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean I was just talking to a team two 317 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: nights ago and they're asking me about Kyle, and I 318 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: just said, look, you want to do that's gonna show 319 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: up grind, sweaty back. I mean he's out here just 320 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: ripping balls. I mean, Kyle has been great to get 321 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: out here and work. And kJ is a guy that 322 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: I've known since he's been in high school. He's been 323 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: with us for a while, so it's great to see 324 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: him step out. And you know, those other guys have 325 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: the big names right now, right but between Zack, Justin 326 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and Kyle, those guys these last year, they were able 327 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to go out and do a lot. And kJ is 328 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: a guy that jumped out on the scene that first 329 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: game against L s U. But then through injuries, through 330 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: changes and all that stuff. He doesn't have the name, 331 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: but he steps out every day working with these guys, 332 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: pushing himself. It's been great, right for guys like like 333 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I had watched him, you know, through these 334 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I knew about him when he 335 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: went to Georgia, but I don't have that interaction with 336 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: him until he gets here, and just watching the way 337 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: that he approaches things. He's already approaching things like a 338 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: true professional. Uh. He's here early. He asked to get 339 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: extra time in. You know, he gets an opportunity to 340 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: to to prepare for his interviews, and he calls me 341 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: on the phone and says, hey, can you help me 342 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of prepare this offense? Can you can, like, can 343 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: we go over this again? Because I want to nail 344 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: it um and he's handling things the right way. Kyle 345 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Trask I was so amazed with some of the games 346 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: that he played. The game that he played against Alabama, 347 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean he almost stole that game away. I mean 348 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: he played a great game. And if he doesn't have 349 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: that game where the where his team doesn't win against 350 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: L s U, he could be very well the Heisman 351 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Trophy winner. It's been really cool to Also, my favorite 352 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: part about all this is when I sit down with them. 353 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: When I first get with them, I get to watch 354 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: their tape and it's tell me what you're processing here, 355 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Tell me what your coaches are asking of you. Tell 356 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: me how you got to this, tell me everything that's 357 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: led up to this play. I want to know where 358 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: it's coming from, in your mind, your body. I love 359 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: diving into their offenses and they're they're mental makeup with him. 360 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: And then part of the thing that we do here 361 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: at three d QB as we jump into also the 362 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of the support mental performance side of things. We 363 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: jump into the mental emotional What makes these guys tick? 364 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: What behaviors have they demonstrated throughout their college career that 365 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: are going to help them be successful? And then what 366 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: are some of the things that they face. You know, 367 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback faces a lot of challenges, and I believe 368 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: so much of their success depends on the tool kit 369 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: that they have. And we don't know how this draft 370 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: is gonna shake down, but all these guys are gonna 371 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: go to different teams, and who knows who's going to 372 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: get the great situation of a solid defense and it's 373 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: a great run game, and who may get where it's 374 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: not as solid as a defense. There's holes and the 375 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: run game isn't great, and they gotta win on third 376 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: down and it as tough as a young player to 377 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: drop back on third down to win. What are those 378 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: guys gonna face and how can we help him get 379 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: the tools to succeed? I love that part about this process, 380 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: and they've all they've all been great and how they've 381 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: been open to allowing me help them, and I so 382 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: much want to see them just go out and have 383 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: great opportunities, great situations, but it doesn't always work that way. 384 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: So they've got to be ready for the tough stuff. 385 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: The one thing that I do know is when they 386 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: have their opportunity to shine at their pro days and 387 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: when they finally step foot onto a field and many camps, 388 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: they can be ready because of the work that you, 389 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: John Back and three d QB have been able to do. 390 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, John, It's been terrific 391 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: getting your insight on these quarterbacks. Thanks, Bucky, enjoyed the time. Well, Buck, 392 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: that was interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of the same things, uh, 393 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that I've had conversations with with John Beck and recently, 394 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: and to me, it's it's fascinating when you hear and 395 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: hear the stories there of Zach as well as with 396 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: with Justin Um again, two guys I think our top 397 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: ten picks in any draft. Yeah, no, just and talking 398 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: about both of them and talking about the natural talent 399 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: that both of those guys display, But it's beyond their talents, 400 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: their willingness or their desire to want to really dig 401 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: into what makes a great quarterback. How do you become 402 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: a great quarterback? What do you need to do? How 403 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: do you dig into the prep time and study and 404 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: those things. And I think for Zach Wilson and justin fields. 405 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: They have shown that. You know, I think this class 406 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: in general, we look at it, uh DJ, we're looking 407 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: at gas. We really want to be quarterbacks who have 408 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: the maturity that it's not just about like the stardom 409 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: of in the QB one. But these guys really really 410 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: love the craft and they've taken into it because the 411 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: reports that we've gotten back from their work, ethic and 412 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: those things reflect that. And so John Beck was able 413 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: to share some light on two of the top prospects 414 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: in the draft. He'll tell you what he did. A 415 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal job with Justin Herbert, you know, the Justin Herbert 416 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: that he began working with and that Justin Herbert he 417 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: handed off to the Chargers. I mean, tremendous, tremendous job 418 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: with him really from the ground up, um all the 419 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: way up to how he you know, sees the game 420 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: and reacts to the game. I give John a tremendous 421 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: amount of credit for that. Really, uh one again, a 422 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: bright star. He's really a bright star. And if I 423 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: was an NFL team and had a quarterback that I 424 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: didn't have access to in the off season, particularly when 425 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: the discussion is are we going to have a virtual offseason, 426 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: send him out there. I'm sending him out there. Let 427 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: him go work with John. Um. You know, if if 428 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: you've got John, you've got Jordan Palmer. Both those guys 429 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job out there. Um. You know, Quincy 430 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: does a great job there in Atlanta. You've got options 431 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: of places you can send these quarterbacks. And to me, 432 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I'd want to be communicating with with guys like that 433 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: and so we can be kind of working in tandem. 434 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: If I can't be around my quarterback, I want them 435 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: with one of those guys. Well, yeah, and you're seeing 436 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: that happen UH more often, not only guys leading into 437 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: the draft, but as they continue to work each and 438 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: every offseason that guys are dispatching their quarterbacks to these 439 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: UH gurus to really help them advance their training, master 440 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: more techniques and come back to the look at Josh Allen. 441 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Workout what Jordan Palmer did for Josh. Like and we're 442 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: seeing the growth and as more people become I would 443 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: say like four time three in six day worker bees 444 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: at the position. You're seeing this growth and this not 445 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: a coincidence that we're seeing so many young quarterbacks have 446 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: success in the league because they are working with these 447 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: gurgules on the outside who are showing them how to 448 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: play the game, how to play the game, and how 449 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: to excel at the position. No doubt. Um, all right again, 450 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: I said it was a quick one today, but I 451 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Fascinating conversation there with John Beck. 452 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Anything you want to add before we get out of here, Buck, 453 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: No man, DJ. I think this is a unique time, 454 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: and I know we always get caught up in the quarterbacks, 455 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: and it's always more fun for us from a content 456 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: producing standpoint where quarterbacks are involved at the top of 457 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: the draft. I think this year, though, we're talking about 458 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: special quarterbacks. I think guys will be talking about for 459 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: a long time, no doubt. Well, there you go. Hope 460 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you guys have enjoyed that, enjoyed that conversation. Play more 461 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: content coming your way here. I'll move the sticks. 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