1 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Welcome. He Late Caick is live. It is Sunday night. 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: It is March twenty ninth, the year of Our Lord, 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We've got a jam packed show tonight. Colin 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: I would consider this show jam packed if we were 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: in the middle of the football season. We're in the 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: middle of quarantine. It is still the central personnel only 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: mode here at the studio. But Colin and I are 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: pretty essential, as essential as it gets right now, at 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: least on these premises. So we're happy to have you 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: with us. 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By the way, it's one of those old 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: will must champ less Miles type questions, So we'll get 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: to that towards the end of the show. Also, I 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: wanted to let you know that for another week, we 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: are on schedule, So we're doing a show right now 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Nut We're gonna do another show on Thursday night, 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: and it's a week to week deal. Right now, we've 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: got to find out if we can get in the studio. 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: So far, so good, So let's get started here. And 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to a debate that I don't 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: think is a debate, or at least I don't think 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: it should be a debate, even though sadly it is. 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: The debate I'm talking about centers around Georgia football, and 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: the debate specifically is the people who take Kirby smart 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: and then compare everything he's done to Mark Richt and 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: everything that he did and all of a sudden you 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: get folks who want to say on better than the other, 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: and maybe you get another camp that says, oh Man, actually, 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart may be a little bit overhyped. So I'm 46 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: not gonna fall really into either category. But I'm gonna 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: acknowledge both camps, and I'm gonna tell them that they're 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: both right and wrong in ways. So let me get 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: into it. A lot of times, we'll have greatest Teams 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: of All Time debates in college football, and you'll have 51 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: folks that throw around some of these recent Alabama teams. 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you, from now into eternity, the twenty 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: nineteen LSU team should be included. There. You'll have like 54 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: the two thousand and one Miami Hurricane team that sent 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: like one hundred million guys to the NFL Draft. But 56 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: inevitably there's gonna be some guy. He's usually sitting with 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: his legs crossed over here in the back corner, and 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna say, what about that nineteen forty one Army team? 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: Have you seen the stats? And out of respect, you'll 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: be quiet and you'll let him tell you about nineteen 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: forty one Army and how many shutouts they pitched, and 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: what kind of rushing numbers they had and how much 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: they dominated the competition, all the while knowing the twenty 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: nineteen LSU team would commit a hate crime against nineteen 65 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: forty one Army if they were to meet on the 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: same field. The point is it's irrelevant because they're not 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: in the same eras So nineteen forty one Army doesn't 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: have access to the same nutrition, they don't have access 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: to the same street, the conditioning. Nothing about nineteen forty 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: one Army matters within the context of twenty nineteen LSU. 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: It's the same way when you talk about Barry Bonds 72 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: versus Babe Ruth irrelevant, totally irrelevant. I also feel the 73 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: same way when we compare coaches across different eras well. 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: What does this have to do with Georgia and especially 75 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: what does it have to do and why do I 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: think that these comparisons are relevant when we're talking about 77 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart or Mark Richt, Because it's not just decades 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: separating two entities that make a debate irrelevant, because there 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: is no time that separates Mark Richt and Kirby Smart. 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: One got fired that being Mark Ricked. Of course, and 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: then the other being Kirby Smart immediately took over. Yet 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: there's a grand canyon's difference and the Georgia job that 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Mark rict and the Georgia job that Kirby Smart has 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: right now. So let me explain to you briefly about 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the two camps that have kind of formed here. You've 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: probably heard him. I know if you're a Georgia fan, 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: because I got a lot of you who text me 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and message me and whatnot. And I appreciate that by 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the way, some of you guys, in fact, the vast 90 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: majority of you guys follow on Camp A and Camp 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: A is Kirby Smart is superior to the product that 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: we were putting on the field. Kirby Smart superior as 93 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: a coach, and the product that we were putting on 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the field back then has been far surpassed by the 95 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: product that we're putting on the field now. Recruiting is humming. 96 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: No one can deny that. I don't think the energy 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: around the program is at an all time high. The 98 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: energy around Georgia is such now. It's not just that 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: they create a raucous home environment. I have been to 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of Georgia games, I cover them, have covered 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: them for a number of years now. I was at 102 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame game in South Bend. I've been at 103 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: the games in Niland and poor Vanderbilt a couple of 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: years ago, maybe last year. They've gotten to the point 105 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: where they take over opponent stadiums, so the energy is 106 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: at an all time high. The profile of the program 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: that capital g there has shifted from being a really 108 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: solid regional brand to now started to mushroom, have started 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: to balloon a little bit. They're not the University of 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Southern California in terms of branding, yet they're not Alabama, 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: they're not Ohio State, but they're bigger in national scope 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: than what they were. All of these things have only 113 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: recently occurred really under Kirby Smart. But then you have 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: the other camp. And here's what the other camp says. 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: The other camp pulls out a piece of paper on 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: you or either they haven't memorized already, and they say, okay, 117 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: all those things are well and good. But once Kirby 118 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Smart's got all that, once he's got the energy, once 119 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: he's got the recruits on campus, what does he do 120 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: with him. I'll tell you what he does with him. 121 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: And then they bring out the first four years comparison, 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: and you know how it goes. Georgia fan Kirby Smart 123 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: first four years forty three to twelve one sec title, 124 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: mark it first four years forty two to ten one 125 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: sec title. That's where the comparisons end for me. Now, 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to play both sides against the middle here, 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why neither wins, because they're 128 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: both irrelevant. Here's why I would shake my head all 129 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: day and twice on Sunday if you tell me that 130 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the Georgia program's in a better place now than it 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: was under Mark rickt The short answer is just because 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: it is. But here is why it is. These stats 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: here don't tell the whole story. It's not like Mark 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Rick's SEC and Kirby Smart's SEC was a vacuum and 135 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: the only thing that changed was the man who was 136 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: the head coach at the University of Georgia. I want 137 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: you to understand I can't prove this. This is strictly hyperbolic, 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and I understand that, but I want you to understand 139 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: at least what I strongly believe Kirby Smart's teams, most recently, 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: if I were to take them the old grab claw 141 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: machine I like to use, and I were to drop 142 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: them into early two thousands Southeastern Conference. Keep in mind 143 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Rick's first four years, when we were talking about a 144 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: period where the SEC does not even have it's seven 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: straight national championships. Yet the landscape is burgeoning, but the 146 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: landscap's a lot different. These Kirby Smart teams would smoke 147 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: folks in the SEC fifteen sixteen, seventeen years ago. Now 148 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: that is a product of a high tide raising all boats, 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: in some cases because they've been on board, and in 150 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: other cases just by necessity. These Kirby Smart teams today, 151 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: I feel are much better than a lot of the 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: products that were winning the conference in the early to 153 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: mid two thousands. Now, there are a number of reasons 154 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: for that. Nick Saban's one of them, and that's part 155 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: B here. This man Kirby Smart lives in a Nick 156 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Saban SEC mark Rick's first four years. Yes, Saban was 157 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: in the SEC at LSU and then left LSU LSU. 158 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Even as they won a national championship, the overall scope 159 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: of that program had not been built because Saban hadn't 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: had time really to build a true perennial monster at 161 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: LSU like he's built at Alabama. But I want you 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: to think about this too, not just Saban, Okay, because 163 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: you can argue me on that. What else has Nick 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Saban done to the SEC? In order to avoid drowning, 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: Everyone's had to raise their game. The overall collective game 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: in this conference is at a level and has been 167 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: for about the past seven or eight years. The likes 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: of Witch College football's never seen by necessity. That's the 169 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: world Kirby Smart lives in. That was not the world 170 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: during Mark Rick's first four years. And so while these 171 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: records look comparable, Kirby Smart's probably had a little bit 172 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: tougher road. But now let me tell you why this 173 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: is no knock on Mark Rick. And I'm gonna tell 174 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: you why. If everyone wants to praise Kirby Smart and 175 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: hate on Mark Richt in the process, I think you're 176 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: just as incorrect. Guys. Here is what Kirby Smart has 177 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: gotten that Mark Rick didn't get enough of, and that 178 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: is one word, three letters. Yes. Kirby Smart has gotten 179 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Yes answers to a lot of requests and a lot 180 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: of demands that Mark Rick used to get those too. 181 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I've said this and I've only said it because I've 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: had people who are really close to the Georgia program 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: tell me this. The best win and the biggest win 184 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart ever got at Georgia was before he ever 185 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: coached a game. And that was vincing Georgia and a 186 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: bunch of folks who thought they were fully committed that 187 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: they weren't fully committed. In the interview process, in the 188 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: hiring process, Kirby Smart vetted Georgia just as much as 189 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Georgia vetted Kirby Smart. And he looked. He had been 190 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: at Alabama over a decade. He knew what it took 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to be all in. He had worked in a machine 192 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa. So now you are trying to hire me 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: in Athens. And the biggest win Kirby Smart ever got 194 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: was before he ever coached a game, because he looked 195 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: them in the eye and had the stones to do 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: it because he had a good job to fall back 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: on and said, you guys think you're all in, but 198 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: you're not. I'm coming from a place that's all in. 199 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: And if you're going to demand that kind of expectation, 200 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: if you want me to meet that Alabama standard on Saturday, 201 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you can't do like you did Rick Sunday through Friday 202 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: and tell him yes, no, no, no, yes. I need 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: an army of support staff. I gotta triple this recruiting budget. 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I need the infrastructure, I need the new facilities. I 205 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: need all this stuff that they have if you want 206 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: to be who they are. Mark Rick didn't get yes 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: as to that. Kirby Smart's the biggest win was he 208 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: convinced Georgia, we got to answer yes to all these 209 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: before I ever give you that kind of result. And 210 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: so Mark Richt used to be held to that standard. 211 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: I used to watch it all the time. Okay, he'd 212 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: fall short of expectation, and then everyone would look at 213 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Alabama and they'd look at Saban or that look at 214 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: urban Meyer and that say, why aren't we doing what 215 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: they're doing? Well the answer, And a lot of you 216 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Georgia insiders know this to be true. A lot of 217 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: the answers weren't answers that you really wanted to give. 218 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to just blame the dude who's 219 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: face you see every Saturday. It's a lot harder to 220 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: blame the face in the mirror, not individually but collectively. 221 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: The Georgia face that was staring back in the mirror, 222 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: had a lot of folks involved there that didn't quite 223 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: want to step over the creek. That guy wanted to 224 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: dip their toe in in a little bit. They didn't 225 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: want to go all in. And Saban had forced Alabama 226 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: to go all in. He did that, or he wouldn't 227 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: have taken the job smart going to Georgia. He got 228 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: all those yes is, or he never would have taken 229 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: the job because he knew what the expectation was going 230 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: to be, and they had a A plus expectation and 231 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: they should. The difference at Georgia now that wasn't the 232 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: case when Rick was there is they got a plus resources. 233 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: You see that recruiting budget, you check out that army 234 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: of support staff. They'll be headlines from time to time 235 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: come out of Athens and they won't catch anyone attention 236 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: because they're not, in and of themselves a big deal 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: to you. It's not signing five star quarterback, it's not 238 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: hiring a new defensive coordinator every now on. Then they'll 239 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: be an article in the AJC or something like that. 240 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Dogs twenty four to seven dot com and Jake Rower, 241 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Rusty Manzielde'll say, Georgia adds five new support staffers. Do 242 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: you know what that means? That means that there are 243 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: five more warm bodies in that athletic complex that are 244 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: working in various aspects of the football operation day to 245 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: day that weren't there before. Do you know how big 246 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: a difference five more human beings or ten or twenty 247 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: or forty You know how much a difference that makes 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: over the span of a month, six months, and a 249 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: year recruiting, film staff, analysis breakdown, getting advanced scouting done. 250 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Do you know how big a difference that is? When 251 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: there's other machines in Columbus, Ohio, or Tuscaloosa or Clemson, 252 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: there are other machines already operating like that, it is 253 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: a necessity for you to operate like that too. So 254 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: now you're in a situation in an environment there where 255 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: everything's peaking at a ten as it should, and that's fair. 256 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: It's completely fair to hold the head coach at Georgia, 257 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: who is right now, Kirby Smart, to as lofty as 258 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: standard as you want to. I didn't necessarily think it 259 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: was fair back when Mark Rick was there, because he 260 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: was being given in some cases only a fraction in 261 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: very vital departments of his football program that his competitors 262 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: were being given. So that was my take there. Let 263 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: me refresh this right quick. All right, let's move on. 264 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: I've let me mute that too. So Colin and I. 265 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Colin's the director of the show, for those of you 266 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: who ask, I was in the control room, which is 267 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: also a kitchen, before the show tonight, and we were 268 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: looking through comments in the live chat and looking through 269 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: comments from previous shows. And I've gotten a lot of 270 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: dms from you guys this past week, past couple of weeks, 271 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: really talking about the stories that we've been telling on 272 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: the air. A lot of you love these things. I 273 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: knew you would because I'm just like you, and I 274 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: used to love listening to stories. I thought Colin Cowherd 275 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: used to do his best work. Back in the middle 276 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: late two thousands, I used to work. I was working 277 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: in a fabric warehouse in Columbus, Georgia at the time, 278 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: and so every day from ten to one when his 279 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: show would come on, I'd listen with an earbud In 280 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and he'd give a lot of behind the scenes stories 281 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: and access and he'd have the kinds of guests on 282 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: his show that would pull the curtain apart just a 283 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: little bit, and that'd give you a peek behind the scenes. 284 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: It's always the kind of content i'd love. I feel 285 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: like I know our audience pretty well. It turns out 286 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: it's the kind of content that you love too. And 287 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: so what I've been doing is I've been mixing in 288 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: stories that probably you had not previously heard, because I 289 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: feel like I'm uniquely qualified to give them to you 290 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: because they are my personal lot observations. And I've done 291 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: it the last two or three shows. You guys have 292 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: really loved him. So I was going to do it 293 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: again tonight. And I've got a whole mountain of these stories. 294 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: So no matter how long quarantine protocol lasts, I think 295 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: we'll have enough material in the barrel. So I wanted 296 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: to take you back to twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen, Alabama 297 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: went on a pretty incredible run. I've been around Alabama 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot. They played in a lot of big games. 299 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: They've been the most important program in America for the 300 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: past fifteen years now. So in my role, when you're 301 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: going to the biggest game in the SEC every week, 302 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: you tend to see a lot of Alabama. Remember twenty 303 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,239 Speaker 1: fifteen brief lead up in case you've forgotten. September nineteenth, 304 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Ole miss comes into Tuscal loose, and we 305 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: were at that game too. They beat Alabama forty three 306 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: to thirty seven. That's the year following BAMA being upset 307 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: in Oxford. This was a game where Cooper Bateman was 308 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: announced as the starter. Jacob Coker came back in afterwards. 309 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Bama is minus five turnovers, they lose the game, and 310 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: that leads me to the game that I'm actually going 311 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: to talk It's a good picture there, Colins. That leads 312 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: me to the game that I'm going to talk about. 313 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And that was two weeks later. So there we are. 314 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: It's October first and October second, and there is a 315 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: big game in Athens, Alabama at Georgia October third, and 316 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the forecast looks miserable. And I don't know about you. 317 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: I used to love playing sports in the rain. I 318 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: don't like watching sports in the rain. But it became 319 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty obvious there was a tropical system off the Atlantic 320 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: coast and we were going to be in a situation 321 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: where two to four interies of rain were falling over 322 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: the span of an afternoon, and that forecast verified, as 323 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: they like to say in the meteorological industry. So here's 324 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: what happens. Alabama is a point spread underdog for the 325 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: first time in seventy two games. That afternoon, they are 326 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: a two point dog I think at Georgia. Irony not 327 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: lost on me. There's first time they've been an underdog, 328 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: by the way, since the nine SEC championship game. They 329 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: won that one pretty convincingly. So they end up blowing 330 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Georgia out thirty eight to three. That's not what I remember. 331 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: What I remember is it was thirty eight to three, 332 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: like early to midway through the third quarter, So you 333 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: would call that garbage time. I mean, you, as a 334 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: fan are probably watching saying, let's just get out of 335 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: this thing healthy. Really both ways, because Georgia had to 336 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: go to Tennessee the next week. I mean, Alabama still 337 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: got a season left to play, so let's just get 338 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: out of this healthy. Well, the Alabama sideline was not 339 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: of that mentality, obviously. I mean, they're the actual football team. 340 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: So what happens is Nick Chubb had a consecutive games 341 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: streak where he had rushed for one hundred and more 342 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: yards and he was well below one hundred and then 343 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he breaks won eighty three yards 344 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: to the house touchdown. I was in the end zone 345 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: that he was headed towards, and so I'm filming with 346 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: a garbage bag around my camera. Mind you, I'm filming him. Boom. 347 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb runs right into my living room. Footage that 348 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: we don't have to not unfortunately, and all right, all's well, 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: and good extra point up and good commercial break. During 350 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: the commercial break, that's when media on the sideline used 351 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity to walk behind the bench and then you 352 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: go down to the other end zone because you want 353 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: to be in the end zone the offenses working towards. Obviously, 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm walking behind the Alabama bench. There's a big commotion there. 355 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: At first, I think it's just a position group meeting, 356 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: but then I look up and Jaren Reid has his 357 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: hands Jared Reid was a defensive lineman for Alabama at 358 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: the time, has his hands around the throat of an 359 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: Alabama linebacker who shan't be named here tonight. And there 360 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: are about ten support staffers and half of the starting 361 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: defense that are having to pull Jaren Reid off of 362 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: afore mentioned Alabama linebacker, and so there's a big fight 363 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: during the commercial break on the Alabama sideline. I figure, 364 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: because it's such a big commotion in front of me, 365 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: that the CBS cameras must be capturing this, and certainly 366 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: they're going to show this on air. So I didn't 367 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: think anything else of it. I just assumed everyone had 368 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: seen it. When I got home that night and then 369 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of wrung out all my clothes and I watched 370 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: the replay. The only thing they wanted to talk about 371 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: was this pregame nonsense where Alabama's coming out of tunnel 372 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: and George's jumping up and down. That's not a fight. 373 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: People who've never been in a fight loved to call 374 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: that a fight. That's not a fight. There actually was 375 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: a fight during the game, and it was friendly fire, 376 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: and yet no one ever saw it. So that was 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: part one, Part two. A few months down the road, 378 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: we're in Glendale, Arizona National Championship game, Alabama versus Clemson. 379 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Alabama's up like forty five to thirty. It's fourth quarter 380 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: and it's under a minute to go. So Deshaun Watson 381 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: was playing out of his mind for Clemson. This was 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: the year before they beat Bama with one second to go. 383 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: So Watson hits Jordan Leggett with like ten seconds left 384 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: on the clock. He hits him a perfect pass into 385 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: double coverage across the middle, and Clemson scores. What is 386 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: a garbage time touchdown? I think it helped him cover 387 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the spread, so it wasn't an irrelevant touchdown. But there 388 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: were five seconds to go on the clock, so Alabama, 389 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: I think we're covered an on sidekick. They let the 390 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: clock run out. Ballgame, Alabama wins the National championship. Sure enough. 391 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: There I look on their sideline this time, the game's over, 392 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: and there's confetti raining down and there are Alabama defensive players. 393 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I kid you not, as confetti is raining white and crimson. 394 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Confetti is raining down on a team that just won 395 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: the National championship, and they've got defensive players who are 396 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: having to be separated. I want to say Jonathan Allen 397 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: was one of them. And Jonathan Allen at that time 398 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: was about to come back for his senior year. But 399 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: they had guys being separated as the confetti felt. And 400 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: I had someone with Alabama tell me afterwards after the 401 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Ole Miss loss, this was the easiest coaching job relatively speaking, 402 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: that Saban had ever had. Because what happened is you 403 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: had what you ought what every coach hopes to happen, 404 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: and that is a critical mass of your upper classmen, 405 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: your leaders, the glue of your team. They buy in 406 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: and they take control of the wheel and they drive 407 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: the ship, and you know you're there to sort of 408 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: guide it. But the guys in the locker room, the 409 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: guys on the field, the guys going toward those are 410 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the guys who drove the ship for Nick Saban. And 411 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: as it turns out, the lost ole miss may be 412 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: one of the best things that happened to him that year. 413 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: But I will never forget that. Because there were two 414 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: fights between BAMA players on their own sideline, one in 415 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: a blowout win at Georgia, one in a National championship 416 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: win later that year. I never saw either one talked 417 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: about publicly. Don't know how people missed it. Maybe they 418 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it. I found it fascinating, though. 419 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Let us move on. You guys got a big question here. Actually, Uh, 420 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: Chris Tippodeau has a question right now. I should have 421 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: swiped some purple and gold T shirts from that fabric shop. 422 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: How do you know I didn't, Chris. I'm talking about 423 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: the YouTube chat for those of you listening on the podcast. 424 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you'd like to listen to 425 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: the podcast, there's a link in the show description below 426 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Late Kick podcast, so you can 427 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: listen to us driving to work in the morning. Unless 428 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: you're a quarantine like everyone else is right now, then 429 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: you can just listen to your apartment. We're in boxers 430 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: at like ten thirty am. But a lot of you 431 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: have another question, not the one that Chris just asked, 432 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: and that question pertains to the Clemson Tigers. Just mentioned 433 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: them back in twenty fifteen. Well, as it turns out, 434 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: the story goes that Clemson would win the national championship 435 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the next year, then they'd get another one a couple 436 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: of years after that. So they've already got two under 437 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: their belt and it looks like they're not slowing down 438 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: anytime soon. So the big question, of course, right now, 439 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: extending well beyond just the Atlantic Coast Conference, is who 440 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: could step up and challenge Clemson. Now, to this point, 441 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: the only answers have been outside of the ACC. So 442 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Ohio State or Georgia or Oklahoma, Alabama. 443 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, is there anyone in the ACC now 444 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: or two, three, four years in the future that we 445 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: see potentially putting together a challenge to Clemson right now 446 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: because it's Clemson, and then there is I don't know 447 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: how to accurately describe the width of the gap. There's 448 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: a very very very sizeable gap between Clemson and whoever 449 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: is number two. But I'll tell you where there's not 450 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: a sizeable gap, and that's the gap between two and three. 451 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Because your guess is as good as mine right now 452 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: as to who holds those spots down. So there's one 453 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: question that's who could quickly ascend to number two? And 454 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: there are a number of candidate that I'm going to 455 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: point out, But then who could ascend from two to one? 456 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different bridge, and I don't think 457 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: we're crossing that one tonight. I will tell you this, though, 458 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm willing to buy into North Carolina, I'm willing to 459 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: take him seriously for a number of reasons. I listen, 460 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: I doubted that mac Brown was ever going to get 461 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: back into coaching at the D one level. I thought 462 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: mac Brown was going to be a guy to take 463 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: over maybe one of the A or Texas high school programs, 464 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: and that would have been fun to watch too. He 465 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: takes over North Carolina and he's got it figured out. 466 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: He's holding down sort of that quasi CEO. Let me 467 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: hire a legit staff role and then also let me 468 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: hire a staff that can recruit lights out? How lights out? Well, 469 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: we're not talking basketball, guys. North Carolina football currently has, 470 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: per the twenty four to seven Sports team rankings, the 471 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: number four class in the twenty twenty one cycle. Yes, 472 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: we're frozen right now. It's a dead period. Everyone's quarantined, 473 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and we still had a long way to go into 474 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: National Signing Day, early signing period and regular signing Day. 475 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: North Carolina's recruiting very well, and Barton Simmons I saw 476 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: pimp put up a piece on twenty four seven Sports 477 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: earlier today talking about the different dynamic and recruiting right now. 478 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: And for the tar Heels, they got a loaded in 479 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: state crop and I think all but one or two 480 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: of their current commits that are rated four or five 481 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: stars are from the state of North Carolina. So they're 482 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: doing a really, really good job in state. It's one 483 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: of the most underrated states in recruiting. I don't know 484 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: why in the world more people don't hone in on 485 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: North Carolina. But whatever, it's not mac Brown's problem because 486 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: they're getting done right now. They are set at quarterback. 487 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Here's what's really important. They're recruiting well, but they're set 488 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: at quarterback right now. They've got Sam Howell entering what 489 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: will be his true sophomore season. But they also flipped 490 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: Drake May elite twenty twenty one quarterback who was committed 491 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: to Alabama no longer now he's flipped to North Carolina. 492 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: It's always important to get these guys on board early 493 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: because they are the cornerstones of your recruiting class, not 494 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: to mention what they can do on the field for 495 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: you when they actually get on campus and end up 496 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: playing elite players. Gravitate towards the elite quarterbacks, offensive and 497 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: defensive guys. As for FSU in Miami, I don't know 498 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: how anyone in the FSU or in the Miami fan basis. 499 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: I hear from you guys a lot, but I'm asking 500 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: you just be honest with me. If you had to 501 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: take your paycheck and put it on the line right now, 502 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: and I told you over under two and a half 503 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: seasons before you're capable of beating Clemson either straight up 504 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: on the field regular season or in the ACC title game. 505 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Where are you putting your actual money? What are you 506 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: saying to me? You're saying you're going to be there 507 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: in two and a half years. I'm not saying definitively 508 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: you won't be. I'm saying I have no confidence in 509 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: saying you will be. And that's why I'm still in 510 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: wait and see mode with FSU or Miami. Now, I'll 511 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: tell you one that's way off the radar. I did 512 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: a video I think this time last year about Georgia Tech. 513 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech is in the left field right now. They're 514 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: not even on the fringes of this conversation, and I'll 515 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: grant you that I think they will be because I 516 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: love Georgia Tech's coaching staff, really like Jeff Collins. I 517 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: love more so than anything, that they get how Georgia 518 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Tech football should be branded. They came in and immediately, 519 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: of course, you're coming off the Paul Johnson era and 520 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: you're in a position. You know, I lived an hour 521 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: south of Atlanta, but I would listen to and consume 522 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta media on the regular. Georgia Tech was a complete 523 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: non factor in their own city. And think about what. 524 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: It's not Bessemer, Alabama, it's not Ozark. It's Atlanta, Georgia. 525 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: So the capital of the South, a city that has 526 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: accurately marketed itself as the capital of college football. You 527 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: got College Football Hall of Fame there, you got the 528 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: SEC Championship there, you got a ton of recruits there. 529 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: It's the intersection of the SEC and the ACC. And 530 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: you had a D one program, you had an FBS program, 531 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: a Power five program right there in the heart of 532 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: downtown Atlanta, and no one even talks about him up there. 533 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: So that was the first thing you had to change, 534 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: and Jeff Collins has started to do that. Now it's 535 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: a complete roster rebuild. They're going to be two years 536 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: into it right now. I think because of the number 537 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: of returning starters that they will have this coming season, 538 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: combined with the fact that no one will have had 539 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: any spring practice time, conditioning time is going to be limited. 540 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Told you this couple of shows ago. I think some 541 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: team like Georgia Tech, just from the sheer benefit of 542 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: having a bunch of returning starters, could be uniquely positioned 543 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: to pop some people that maybe they wouldn't be expected 544 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: to pop early. But the other thing you can do 545 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech is you can take what people call 546 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: a weakness for you, academics and academics being the standard 547 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: being as lofty as it is at Tech, turn it 548 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: into your advantage. David Shaw did this at Stanford. Why 549 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: in the world can't you If you can get kids 550 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: into Notre Dame and you can gets into Stanford, just 551 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: figure out a way to do it in Atlanta. I 552 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: know because I went down this road last year and 553 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I had a lot of really really sharp folks from 554 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech explained to me exactly what the missions process 555 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: is and how we don't bend for football. And I 556 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: know that I understand. I'm I'm not ignorantly talking about this. 557 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is when you've got as many 558 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: elite kids in the Southeast and the ability to recruit 559 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: nationally because of the brand of Georgia Tech in the 560 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: engineering program, when you've got all that, you don't have 561 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: to sign one hundred kids per year. You got to 562 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: sign twenty five or thereabouts per year. You can find 563 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: twenty five per year that meet those standards and can 564 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: play ball. And once you start to trend up, then 565 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people don't look at you as 566 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: an afterthought or a fallback option. People look at you 567 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: and say, oh you. I mean, I can go there, 568 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: get a world class education, and I can compete for 569 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: an AEC championship and therefore put myself in the college 570 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: football playoff conversation. You shake your head at that right now, 571 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: because Georgia Tech hasn't been that new generation. I don't 572 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: shake my head at it because if history has shown 573 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: us anything so that if you get stuff figured out, 574 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: doesn't take long. It's not a four or five year 575 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: process anymore. With the way that transfers work, and with 576 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: the way that the game has become so quarterback centric 577 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and what one superstar quarterback can do for you, you get 578 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: that in the door at Georgia Tech. Watch and see. 579 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: But the biggest hurdle for Clemson, despite everything I just said, 580 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: is and in the foreseeable future, will always be Clemson. 581 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: And here's what I mean. I think Clemson there is 582 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: such a gap that they have detached themselves from their 583 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: conference right now, and I feel that the biggest thing 584 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: they have to guard against, and so far it has 585 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: not been a problem for them, to the immense credit 586 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: of that coaching staff. The biggest thing you have to 587 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: guard against any time you start getting success at a 588 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: program like Clemson, Clemson, drop my pen. That's why I 589 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: don't need to draw anyway. Clemson is not or was not, 590 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Rather this national power where that tiger paw was synonymous 591 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: with like the Notre Dame logo and the Ohio state logo. 592 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Now it means everything to Clemson folks, and that's wonderful. 593 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: All I mean when I say that is Clemson football 594 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: ten years ago didn't move the needle a whole lot 595 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: in the state of California. Well now it does. And 596 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the reason it does is not because people in Calabasas, 597 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: California all of a sudden became privy to the magic 598 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: that is Clemson South Carolina like you guys know it 599 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: to be. They want to come there because they can 600 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: win and go to the NFL, just like they want 601 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: to go to any other powerhouse. So that's a good 602 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: thing for Clemson, not a bad thing, don't get me wrong. 603 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: But what you have to guard against is the blueprint 604 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: and the identity of Clemson football. Everyone can see this 605 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: on display every time they play. The identity and blueprint 606 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: that they've used to get to the mountaintop has been 607 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: a program full of kids with a what can I 608 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: do for Clemson mentality. That's the way they play, that's 609 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: the way they've built and branded themselves, and good for them. 610 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: But now when you get kids coming in from all 611 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: over the country. I'm not saying it will happen, because 612 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it has yet. The only thing you 613 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: have to guard against. One of the consequences of success 614 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: becomes going from a locker room full of kids that 615 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: say what can I do Clemson? To maybe kids from 616 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: all four corners of the country and everywhere in between 617 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: coming in and saying I'm here, what can Clemson do 618 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: for me? Where does that manifest itself? Well, it manifests 619 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: itself when, for example, you are driving in a National 620 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: championship game and you got precious few seconds left on 621 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: the clock and you need intangible things to go your way, 622 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: and you maybe need kids that weren't rated five stars 623 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: coming out of high school to just come through, grit 624 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: their teeth and show up for you. You never know 625 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: when you don't have the exact right combination of mentality 626 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: in your locker room, all those intangibles that have to 627 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: fall into place, you never know how it manifests itself 628 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: on the field to cost you when you would least 629 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: expect it. That's the biggest hurdle for clar As much 630 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: as I may believe in the future of North Carolina 631 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, I'm willing to take a flyer on FSU 632 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: and Miami. I pray that they get their act together. 633 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: They're not catching Clemson without some help from Clemson. I 634 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: challenge anyone to prove me wrong on that, because I'd 635 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: be happy to listen. You want another story, I got 636 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: one for you. This one is from the just Pinch Myself? 637 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Am I really witnessing this file? This one is very 638 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: very You know what I love to do is I 639 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: occasionally glance over to the chat and I see someone 640 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: that says something that's very very common sensical. I don't 641 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: know what necessarily the statement means. Anyway, This past January, 642 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: I was in New Orleans for the National Championship Game. 643 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: I was in the LSU tunnel. In fact, on Twitter 644 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: the other day I posted some footage that I really, 645 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, didn't think a lot of 646 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: you were going to even pay attention to when we 647 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: were down there. I had some new equipment, so I 648 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: was trying it out. So I did a walk from 649 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: the LSH you locker room as a superdome, Superdome is 650 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: a massive building, so there's a little walk between the 651 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: locker rooms, and you got a couple of turns down 652 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: the tunnel and then you get onto the field. And 653 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: I put that up empty stadium, empty tunnel, think out 654 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: like twelve thousand views. So that shows how desperate people 655 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: are for content right now. But what I also did 656 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: was I went right back to that same spot in 657 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: the thirty twenty to fifteen minute lead up to the 658 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: National Championship Game now to again set the seam. Secret 659 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: Service was all over the place. There's a totally different 660 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: protocol when you're at a game that the president's at. Obviously, 661 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: especially for us, we got to get there like six 662 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: seven hours early, which I don't mind, cous to be 663 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: honest with you, In a championship setting, I make the 664 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: building my office for the day anyway, So I would 665 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: have been in there regardless where the President was going 666 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: to be in town. But he was in town and 667 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: so what happened was got Secret Service all over the place. 668 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: And as it's been explained to me, see, I have 669 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: an earpiece in my ear, so in a way, I'm 670 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: like the Secret Service. And as it was explained to me, 671 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: there are different routes that the Secret Service can take, 672 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: and they don't really know which one they're going to 673 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: ta until boom, coin flip, here's where we're going. And 674 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: it's the same way in a stadium. There are multiple 675 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: ways that they've decided that they can get the president 676 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: from point A to point B to point C. So 677 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: you never know which way is going to go until 678 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: they make the call in their ear. And so here's 679 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: the setup. I'm outside the LSU locker room. I'm going 680 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: to film their walk down the field and down the 681 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: tunnel to the field for the start of the National 682 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Championship game. As is often the case, the camera and 683 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: the red light on the camera that is pointing right 684 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: in the direction of the head coach tells them when 685 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: to walk. And so you've got a producer behind a 686 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: camera man that you never see on TV that tells 687 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: them stop, stop stop, Okay, let's go. And that's why 688 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: sometimes if you're watching on TV, you'll see guys standing 689 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: in the tunnel and you'll wonder, well, I'm watching, obviously 690 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: they're back live. Why aren't they going Well, it's because 691 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: the coach probably isn't looking at the producer telling them 692 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: to go overkill. I digress. So here's the situation. I'm 693 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: outside the LSU locker room and to my immediate right 694 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: is Edward Zaran and his team is standing behind him, 695 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: and it is a very surreal situation. The President at 696 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: this point is out on the playing surface because the 697 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: national ath them is being played, and so everyone is 698 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: in a holding pattern. There's no movement inside the entire building. 699 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Everyone's on hold, including us. And there is an elevator 700 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: right here to my immediate left, and that is one 701 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: of the potential access points to take the president from 702 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: the field up to wherever in the world. He was 703 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: going to say, I don't even know where he went 704 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: that night, but that's not the way they chose. However, 705 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: it could have been the way they chose. And so 706 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: we've got an army of secret service to my left, 707 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: We've got LSU's team to my right, and they're out 708 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: of their mind. They are going crazy like you normally 709 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: would okay. This is when they actually finally started to walk. 710 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: But before this moment, you had LSU acting exactly how 711 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: LSU does before a game. Very very unique identity that 712 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: team has. And then to the left you got a 713 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: bunch of secret Service folks. Now you think, to your mind, 714 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: secret service folks have probably seen some stuff in their life, 715 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: and they're all wearing their sungline even though they're indoors 716 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: and it's like nine o'clock at night. But I look 717 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: at them as I'm watching LSU. I've been around LSU, 718 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: so I'm used to what I'm seeing, but they haven't, 719 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: and so they're not quite used to it. And you've 720 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: got some pretty seasoned secret Service guys. Once you get 721 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: on the presidential detail, you've been around for a while, 722 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: and they're kind of they're kind of cutting their eyes 723 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: over and pull glasses down a little bit. They didn't 724 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: know how to process what they were seeing anymore than 725 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma had a couple of weeks before. And so I'm 726 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: sitting there in mind you a decade before this, I'm 727 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: the kind of person who would have paid hundreds and 728 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of dollars to be able to just 729 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: sit in the stands for a game like this, And 730 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: yet through blessing, hard work, a lot of help from 731 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: other people, all those combinations of things have gotten me 732 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: to the point where now I get to be paid 733 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: and fed very handsomely to cover this stuff for a living. 734 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: And I'm standing here in the middle of this team 735 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: which is about to win the national championship, and they're 736 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: on a historic pace. And then I've got secret service 737 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: over here, potentially with the President and his detail coming 738 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: up this tunnel. And all the while I'm asking myself, 739 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: how is it that, out of the entire media contingent 740 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: everyone in this building, I'm the one who's standing right here, 741 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: and yet I was the one standing right there. I'll 742 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: tell you what would have made the video really good 743 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: is if they would have chosen the LSU tunnel to 744 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: come up. That's what would have made the video really good. 745 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: So maybe next year, Colin, That's all I have. Man, 746 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people watching tonight. Hey, by 747 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: the way, I was telling Colin, so I was doing 748 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: a little reading this weekend, and it turns out that 749 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: when we're on live, you see this little thumbs up 750 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: button for those of you watching live right now, I 751 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: think it's a forty eight right now. When we get 752 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: to fifty likes. For whatever reason, fifty is the magic 753 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: line in the sand. It massively helps us out in 754 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: the trending sections on YouTube, both live and then in 755 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: the immediate replay that gets posted. And you know, I 756 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: got to go in there and edit some stuff out 757 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: so you don't watch fifteen minutes of what a lot 758 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: of you think is very bad lead up music. And 759 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: I think we're going to do something about that soon. 760 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: But I say all that to say this, Please click 761 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: that thumbs up button. Show's about to be over, so 762 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: we're about to head out for the week. But if 763 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: you will click that thumbs up button, whether you're watching 764 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: live or on the replay, I see a lot of 765 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you just did right now. Actually I really appreciate it. 766 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: And the one other thing that I ask you to do, 767 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: even if you don't listen to podcast, look at the 768 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: link in the show description or go search for the 769 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: Late Kick podcast wherever you download podcast, give us one 770 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: of those five star reviews and a quick comment in 771 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: the comment section. Cause, boy, that massively helps us out too, 772 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: really really big push for that, So I appreciate you 773 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: joining us wherever you may be, Stay safe, stay clean. 774 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: This week, I'm always looking at the comment section for 775 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: any of you who have anything that you want talked about. 776 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: And I did tell you that I would get to Tom. 777 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: Who is it Thomas Hollman's comment because he super chatted us. 778 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: And even though it's two bucks, it's two bucks more 779 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: than a lot of you gave us the show tonight. 780 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't beg for money, but we do take it 781 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: when you want to offer it. Could we at the 782 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: University of South Carolina replace mus Champ with less miles? 783 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: It's a good poll question, actually, Thomas, So I would 784 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: just ask game coop fans right now and I'll see 785 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: it in the comments afterwards. If you were given the 786 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: option right this second, would you trade will Must Channel 787 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: for less miles? No Caban, that's the trade, one for one. 788 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I'll be watching this week and we'll see you back 789 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: here again Thursday night, same time. Until then, I'm Josh 790 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Pate for Colin, for Aaron for everyone else here. This 791 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: has been the late K Kevin Great