Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. On today's episode, will be joining
Speaker 1: my brother Stack five and my brother Kean Dueling. But
Speaker 1: before we get to them, I want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about these new NBA owners. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with Patrick DeMont, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, who
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago made one of the biggest
Speaker 1: trades in NBA history. You can agree or disagree whether
Speaker 1: it's a good trade bad trade for any team, and
Speaker 1: this by no means is demeaning any either player in
Speaker 1: the situation. But what I had a hard time with
Speaker 1: was him trying to kick Luca on the way out,
Speaker 1: disrespecting him every step of the way. And this is
Speaker 1: a guy, from everything we research, has no history in sports,
Speaker 1: and particularly no history in basketball. This guy married into
Speaker 1: money and was gifted this position. We've all known and
Speaker 1: loved Dallas for a long time. Obviously, Mark Cuban's going
Speaker 1: to go down as one of the greatest owners in history.
Speaker 1: It's always been a destination and always been one of
Speaker 1: the best ran organizations, not just in the NBA but
Speaker 1: in professional sports history. But of late, it almost seems
Speaker 1: like things have been crumbling. You know, over two thousand
Speaker 1: Dallas Map subscribers have dropped their subscription. Uh, there's been
Speaker 1: protests at the arena. They've bought graves to the arena,
Speaker 1: you know, fans of you know said there there issues
Speaker 1: with the trade. Jason Kidd didn't speak to the media
Speaker 1: after the first game.
Speaker 2: With a d.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of been a mess. Fans were thrown
Speaker 1: out of the games for bringing posters that were I
Speaker 1: guess jeopardizing or disrespectful towards management. And it seems like
Speaker 1: once an organization that was once highly touted and and
Speaker 1: and looked at as one of the strongest and best
Speaker 1: organizations is slowly crumbling in front of us. When Patrick
Speaker 1: DeMont talked to the Dallas media, he said that Luca
Speaker 1: just really doesn't fit the shape almost of the greats
Speaker 1: before him, the Jordan's, the Birds, the Shacks, the Kobe's.
Speaker 1: Spoke on his work ethic and him kind of being
Speaker 1: a lazy player and all kinds of again, just disrespectful
Speaker 1: things you normally don't hear from an owner. But does
Speaker 1: this surprise you? This kind of reminds me of the
Speaker 1: guy sitting in the Oval office right now, always disrespecting,
Speaker 1: always kind of take low shots at people. But to
Speaker 1: no surprise, this leadership of the Dallas Mavericks donated one
Speaker 1: hundred million to Trump. So maybe they took a page
Speaker 1: out of his book on the disrespectful tip. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that Luca doesn't have a lot to work
Speaker 1: on when it comes to the way he carries himself
Speaker 1: towards the refs, his lack of effort, his complaining, and
Speaker 1: just his energy overall. But let's not forget this guy
Speaker 1: is twenty five years old. This guy is taking his
Speaker 1: team to the NBA finals last year. Took him to
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals two years ago and dropped seventy
Speaker 1: three points, which is the fourth highest total in the
Speaker 1: history of the league and second highest in this era,
Speaker 1: right behind Kobe's eighty one. The owner has an issue with, again,
Speaker 1: just the way Luca carries himself. I always thought this bit,
Speaker 1: this situation was above Nico. I always thought this had
Speaker 1: to be coming from the top. We all know this.
Speaker 1: This new ownership tried to come in and do the
Speaker 1: whole casino thing and it just didn't pan out. Then
Speaker 1: they tried to make a jump to Vegas and that
Speaker 1: didn't pan out. So when their pan was empty and
Speaker 1: they made a bad trade. Now all they can do
Speaker 1: is try to talk shit about Luca. But we've all
Speaker 1: seen Luca and again he does is he has some flaws.
Speaker 1: I think every player has some flaws. He has some
Speaker 1: things he needs to work on, absolutely, But it tried
Speaker 1: to demean and disrespect one of the greatest players in
Speaker 1: the game and arguably someone who will go down as
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players in history. I just think
Speaker 1: it was very poor taste. Also, the Mark Cuban angle
Speaker 1: is interesting because when he sold the team, we all
Speaker 1: caught word that he'll still be in on basketball decisions.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was a promise given by new ownership that
Speaker 1: they didn't follow through with. But when Cuban heard about this,
Speaker 1: he tried everything he could to stop it, but it
Speaker 1: was too late. Luca is loved and be loved in
Speaker 1: the city of Dallas, in a state that's known for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The biggest star was a twenty five year
Speaker 1: old Stlovenian kid that has come over here and taken
Speaker 1: the league by storm so much that in Luca's debut
Speaker 1: game Lakers versus the Jazz, guess who was sitting in
Speaker 1: the crowd to show his support the one and only
Speaker 1: legendary Dirk Nowitzki. Mister Deumont, take a step back, take
Speaker 1: a seat. You know nothing about hard work or what
Speaker 1: it takes to be great. You married into money. Sit
Speaker 1: with this trade that you made. Hopefully Anthony Davis gets
Speaker 1: healthy and I wish Dallas Mavericks the best moving forward.
Speaker 1: But shut the fuck up, man. We all know how
Speaker 1: good Luca is. We don't give a fuck what you
Speaker 1: have to say. Just sit back and be an owner.
Speaker 1: And now to dive a little bit deeper into this conversation,
Speaker 1: I want to welcome my brother Stephen. You listen, s
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson and keon the beak doing.
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing today. That's what we are.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Obviously all three of us are are are very big
Speaker 1: on respect. And Jack I'll start with you. What kind
Speaker 1: of presidents does this start? You know, as a new
Speaker 1: owner there doesn't really know shit about basketball, you know,
Speaker 1: kicking Luca on the way out. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: when you hear that? Will that deter other stars to
Speaker 1: wanting to actually go to Dallas?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, and no, I mean it's it's kind
Speaker 4: of similar, you know with how Pat Roley hand to
Speaker 4: handle Jim in situation.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, people don't want to.
Speaker 4: I might want to go deal with Miami because I
Speaker 4: handle Jim, and that's kind of the same with Dallas.
Speaker 4: But I look at it different. You know, we all
Speaker 4: on the outside looking in at one. Let's get that understood.
Speaker 4: We all on the outside looking in. But one thing
Speaker 4: we one thing we can see we can't see as
Speaker 4: players from the outside looking in, is that louis the
Speaker 4: highest paid player on that team, but he doesn't give
Speaker 4: the highest paid player effort every night.
Speaker 2: And that's no knock on him. That's just what we see,
Speaker 2: you know, it's what we see.
Speaker 4: And I think these days, especially when you got a
Speaker 4: coach like Jay Kidd who played a number of years
Speaker 4: and played a one hundred ten percent every night un team,
Speaker 4: he can't play no more, you know, I think you
Speaker 4: know that, And with a guy like Nico that Nico,
Speaker 4: Nico is cool with a lot of the dogs in the.
Speaker 2: NBA, he ain't cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Everybody that got Nico got his respect from real people
Speaker 4: in basketball, from a lot of the top names and
Speaker 4: a lot of the dogs. So you know, when you
Speaker 4: got a guy like that, especially, times are changing. When
Speaker 4: you got a guy like that, You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that that's possibly finish. Get three hundred and something million,
Speaker 4: and we can't depend on you to be on the call,
Speaker 4: We can't depend on you to work, We can't depend
Speaker 4: on you to lead, not just on the court, but
Speaker 4: in the weight room and practice and stuff like that. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that will bother some people. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it would bother me if
Speaker 4: I if I owned the team and I got to
Speaker 4: pay you three hundred million and you not leading the
Speaker 4: way you should lead. As far as what I seen
Speaker 4: from Tim Duncan, he's the first one in the weight room,
Speaker 4: the last one to lead practice. He gonna lead by example.
Speaker 4: He gonna make everybody better. That's what you spect from
Speaker 4: a guy like that. And we all know Luca's not
Speaker 4: that guy. Is he a great offensive player? He's probably
Speaker 4: the best, one of the best offensive players we've ever
Speaker 4: seen play this game, no question. But when you a
Speaker 4: guy that you asked for three hundred million, it's more
Speaker 4: as expected from you, too.
Speaker 2: Too much is given, more as much as required.
Speaker 4: And if you're gonna if you're gonna ask for three
Speaker 4: hundred men, you better go out there be the first
Speaker 4: person in practice, the last one to leave. You better
Speaker 4: be out there playing defense, dying for boss and being
Speaker 4: that player they expect you to be. But we all
Speaker 4: know Luca's not gonna be that guy. So if they're
Speaker 4: gonna give three hundred men to somebody, they want to
Speaker 4: give it to somebody like that. And then they got
Speaker 4: a chance to move Luke and get Anthony David. Somebody's
Speaker 4: gonna give way more effort. As you see, even though
Speaker 4: he had his entry kicked back in the first game,
Speaker 4: you've seen what he can do. Like, I would rather
Speaker 4: a guy like that me personally than a guy like Lucas,
Speaker 4: who's a who's a bigger worldwide star and a greater
Speaker 4: great offensive player, but not giving me everything everything I
Speaker 4: need as the star on my team.
Speaker 3: K Yeah, man, I mean I think this says precedents, right.
Speaker 5: I think there's a part of it that you know
Speaker 5: when you got new ownership, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: They don't know the lay of the land, they don't
Speaker 5: know the customs, they don't know the value of guys, right,
Speaker 5: They just you know, kind of see it like you know,
Speaker 5: as a spectator somewhat, but when you're in it, you
Speaker 5: know the value of the player.
Speaker 3: I think this is bad, you know what I mean
Speaker 3: in a sense.
Speaker 5: Where max players have a driven revenue, driven ticket sales,
Speaker 5: driven fan bases, and Luca has really connected with that
Speaker 5: city in a way that had you hadn't really seen
Speaker 5: since Dirk, you know, And so I think there's a
Speaker 5: there's a part of that fan base it's hurting, right,
Speaker 5: But also on the other side, I see that.
Speaker 3: It's a business.
Speaker 5: It is a business, and ultimately the NBA wins. It's
Speaker 5: a win win for the NBA. Now Luca misses out
Speaker 5: on that Supermax.
Speaker 2: Right, you can't.
Speaker 5: He can't get that back, you know, through the CBA,
Speaker 5: through the collective bargaining, but he'll probably you know, earn
Speaker 5: it back with reputation, Jersey sales, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, and brand equity out in you know,
Speaker 3: La La Land. Right.
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, this this sets a precedent, you know,
Speaker 5: for players to be more in power, right, you know,
Speaker 5: we can't. We got to have that same energy when
Speaker 5: players make a decision to go to teams that customize
Speaker 5: their situation, that fit their situation. You know, we got
Speaker 5: to have a little bit more leniency for when players
Speaker 5: make the decision, because teams are doing that now, right,
Speaker 5: We've seen some of the biggest names in basketball come
Speaker 5: up in trade rumors.
Speaker 3: This is a.
Speaker 5: Trade, an epic trade. It's an epic trade. And ultimately,
Speaker 5: I still think the game benefits, you know, having your
Speaker 5: superstars and big markets, having global superstars and big markets,
Speaker 5: having Luca and Lebron on the same team, and then
Speaker 5: having a d still right, still good enough in his
Speaker 5: prime to be an All NBA player, To have Kyrie,
Speaker 5: who's a guy who is a bona fide superstar, to
Speaker 5: have j Kidd and have that experience.
Speaker 3: They didn't throw the whole they didn't throw it all away.
Speaker 5: But it also empowers the players to be able to
Speaker 5: go out and make those decisions when free agency comes,
Speaker 5: when trade demands comes.
Speaker 3: You gotta respect it. It's got to be a two
Speaker 3: way street.
Speaker 5: We can't just have it where you know, ownerships and
Speaker 5: gms and presidents can make these decisions and then players
Speaker 5: get thrown under the bus for making those same decisions.
Speaker 2: I think I want to ask you a question after
Speaker 2: you finished too, man.
Speaker 1: No, I just think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the house always wins, you know, like the casino, the
Speaker 1: house always wins. The NBA won one thousand percent with
Speaker 1: Luca going to the Lakers and Jack, I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: My only knock is because we've all played that. We
Speaker 1: were all balls to the wall, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We went out and gave everything. And I think that's
Speaker 1: one thing that Luca, if there is a knock, that
Speaker 1: is the because you've seen him be lazy and complain
Speaker 1: and not hustle. But I think one thing that will
Speaker 1: change about that as being in in La because the
Speaker 1: magnifying glass is going to be on you every single day.
Speaker 1: Every news outlet talks about the Lakers, so you can't hide.
Speaker 1: And another thing, and this is not even to make
Speaker 1: an excuse, I don't feel like Luca outside of Dirk,
Speaker 1: and Dirk was there one year with Luca, he ain't
Speaker 1: really had no vets to kind of be in his ear.
Speaker 1: And I think him playing with Lebron, who is his
Speaker 1: favorite player, and Lebron is someone who leads spokenly but
Speaker 1: also most importantly by example, and I think that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna wake Luke up. I mean, look, Dallas has always
Speaker 1: been and we can all agree one of the best
Speaker 1: organ organizations ran in the NBA, and it almost seems
Speaker 1: like it's crumbling. I mean, viewership. What was the thing
Speaker 1: with the viewership? Yeah, mav TVs over two thousand subscriptions.
Speaker 1: They protested before a game, Jay kids not talking after
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I think, and again, I got
Speaker 1: a lot of love for Nico. You know, I've known
Speaker 1: Nico for a long time, but I think this decision
Speaker 1: was bigger than him. I think this was ownership. Who
Speaker 1: you know, Jack, You and I sat down with Mark
Speaker 1: last year and had discussed kind of him transitioning on
Speaker 1: and Dallas becoming, you know, somewhere where there's casino and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff around the game, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like that's happening. And and Mark was hurt. You know,
Speaker 1: Mark sat down and did an interview on Mark was
Speaker 1: very surprised and hurt and tried to stop the trade,
Speaker 1: but it was too late. So I just kind of
Speaker 1: look at this new ownership coming in and to your point, Katie,
Speaker 1: not knowing the lay of the land, and Jack for
Speaker 1: every reason why you said it's okay, I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with that, but at the same time, I still think
Speaker 1: he's twenty five and there's a chance to learn. If
Speaker 1: you think about this kid, had his team in the
Speaker 1: finals last year, Western Conference Finals two years ago, has
Speaker 1: the fourth highest scoring game in NBA history. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That says a lot. And he's only
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, so you know he's going to
Speaker 1: get better. So I just think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a very interesting time. Only time will tell, you know.
Speaker 1: I think we all agree hopefully Ad can get healthy
Speaker 1: as these teams are built with this particular trade. To me,
Speaker 1: Dallas is a better off team as long as AD
Speaker 1: can get back healthy because right now they're built to win.
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that the long run, the
Speaker 1: long term play with the Lakers was you know, Luca
Speaker 1: being able to step in those shoes of Lebron and
Speaker 1: carry the torch for another uh ten years. Jack, you
Speaker 1: said you were gonna ask me something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with with all this noise now, with KD being
Speaker 4: upset that that his name was in trade rumors, he
Speaker 4: can ask for a trade this summer.
Speaker 2: How would you like seeing him in Dallas? Him?
Speaker 1: And that's that's another interesting thing. And Jack, that's to
Speaker 1: my they got But what who that's another young owner,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's kind of coming in
Speaker 1: and obviously we're gonna discuss this later in the show.
Speaker 1: But you know, you're dangling your best player without even
Speaker 1: asking them, you know what I mean. And I think
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant uh deserves a little bit more respect thing that.
Speaker 1: But that's suddenly definitely we're going to get to Let's say,
Speaker 1: you know, last night, Luca made his debut against one
Speaker 1: of the bottom dwellers, unfortunately, the Utah Jazz, one of
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league, UH, and just came
Speaker 1: out and got his feet wet. Twenty four minutes, fourteen points,
Speaker 1: five rebounds, four assists. The one thing I saw, and
Speaker 1: I only saw the first half because I had to
Speaker 1: go somewhere, was just you know, it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: feeling out process, you know. I think Luca doesn't want
Speaker 1: to do too much. Guys want to make sure he
Speaker 1: gets off. Guys don't want to do too much. So
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, obviously, this was a it's
Speaker 1: the first game. I know, it's it's going to get
Speaker 1: better from here. But what did you guys think of,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing that number seventy seven? And that shit
Speaker 1: was all over Stable Center too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you should have known that Jersey sales
Speaker 4: gonna go crazy. Every shit I want one, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. That ain't no surprise. I think, like
Speaker 4: you said, Matty tried to fit in. But it's good
Speaker 4: what Bron said. Bron said, told him, don't fit in,
Speaker 4: fit the fuck out.
Speaker 2: And I think I think he's gonna get to that.
Speaker 2: We know what Luca can do. Man.
Speaker 4: You know, he coming back from an injury. So, like
Speaker 4: you said, he's trying to get his feet wet. But
Speaker 4: we know what to expect. We know what we're gonna see.
Speaker 4: We're just anxious to see that get that dose big,
Speaker 4: that big game he has and him and Lebron have
Speaker 4: a big game together.
Speaker 2: See how that's gonna work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick before you go, KDI. I love the
Speaker 1: fact and I think we're all agreeing. So that Lebron
Speaker 1: has been trying to hand the keys off to someone.
Speaker 1: I think he has someone to hand the keys off.
Speaker 1: But Bron last night showed you don't motherfucker, don't forget
Speaker 1: about you know, I'm still him, It's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be ye, I'm still here.
Speaker 1: But I like again and this is not a knock
Speaker 1: on a d because I think over the past two
Speaker 1: or three years we've been saying Bron's been trying to
Speaker 1: hand the keys off. So I think Bron is gonna
Speaker 1: happily hand the keys off and allow Luca once he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy or is close to one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: to carry a majority of the low. But like you said, Jack,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a consistent all the time Lebron.
Speaker 1: Lebron can kind of you know, kind of know it's
Speaker 1: a marathon, not a sprint. Katie, what were you saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, man, I mean I think Luca's gonna be
Speaker 5: great in LA. I think they gotta get they got
Speaker 5: to surround him with the right pieces. I think, you know,
Speaker 5: believe it or not, man, I think Lebron is humble
Speaker 5: enough at this point in his life where he wants
Speaker 5: to have somebody in the drive receipt right, and he
Speaker 5: can play a different kind of way.
Speaker 3: It's hard playing when everybody's loading up on you.
Speaker 5: When you have to create, when you have to score,
Speaker 5: when you have to motivate, when you have to inspire,
Speaker 5: when you have to rebound, when you have to defend,
Speaker 5: when you have to do all these things, so Luca's
Speaker 5: gonna take the pressure off of him with that. I
Speaker 5: can't wait to see them getting to those two man games,
Speaker 5: right those picking rolls up high or those side picking
Speaker 5: rolls where they force double teams, and I think what
Speaker 5: we'll see is we'll see the game being played a
Speaker 5: different way because when you can kind of put those
Speaker 5: two in pick and rolls and create that mismatch, you'll
Speaker 5: see some more logo post ups. You'll see some more
Speaker 5: double teams in the logo post up area, and so
Speaker 5: having the right pieces around them is gonna be really important.
Speaker 5: I still think they need a lot threat. They gotta,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: They gotta go in that bag and find, you know,
Speaker 3: a lob thread, a big body.
Speaker 5: And there's some older guys out there who are serviceable,
Speaker 5: who've actually had success with the Lakers that I think
Speaker 5: could be a good fit right now. But more so
Speaker 5: than anything, man like, I think Lebron is gonna get
Speaker 5: the potty train Luca on routine on regiment on like
Speaker 5: how big and how much this game, how much you
Speaker 5: owe to the game when you're in that spot, when
Speaker 5: you're in k.
Speaker 1: Not to interrupt, not to interrupt, but we all know,
Speaker 1: because kat you played here on the down the hallway.
Speaker 1: Playing in La is a lot different, man. So I
Speaker 1: like what you're saying about the potty training and routine
Speaker 1: and regimen. But also these Laker lights are brighter than
Speaker 1: any other motherfucking lights you'll ever get on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the spotlight can make some nervous. But I
Speaker 5: think Lucas built for this shit.
Speaker 1: He built that.
Speaker 3: He's been doing it since he was fourteen years old.
Speaker 5: He's done it on a high level in a lot
Speaker 5: of different scenarios and situations.
Speaker 3: But there's still room for improvement with him.
Speaker 5: He's gotta give more to the game holistically, especially on
Speaker 5: the defensive side, especially with the complaining and the and
Speaker 5: the and the pandering to the refs. He's got to
Speaker 5: get locked in more. He's gonna have to drink some
Speaker 5: hot sauce. He's gonna have to go get you know,
Speaker 5: we're gonna give ross out there, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: You'll have to like kind.
Speaker 1: Of maybe not maybe not roscos. Let's get him some
Speaker 1: vegan shit.
Speaker 2: We got to take him to the east side, let
Speaker 2: him hang with turn by the week Ship.
Speaker 1: You know, Katie, I like the point you made about
Speaker 1: the x'es and o's, and we all know that's one
Speaker 1: of JJ's strengths. I mean, and when you think the
Speaker 1: pick and roll game, obviously Katie, you sat in the
Speaker 1: coaching chair in the NBA, you think about the pick
Speaker 1: and roll game that goes two ways. I mean that
Speaker 1: has Bronze said and picks and Lucas said and picks yea,
Speaker 1: and they're both going to be double So what's that
Speaker 1: throwback look like? And then that that's to your point,
Speaker 1: it's important building this roster around with guys that can
Speaker 1: handle those type of situations, someone that could put a
Speaker 1: raw threat on the rim off of space for shooting,
Speaker 1: and then you know slashers. But kd as you guys
Speaker 1: think if you're on this Laker staff with JJ and
Speaker 1: as things start flowing, I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 1: great problem to have. I don't even call it a problem.
Speaker 1: But you got Lebron, James, Luca, and let's not sleep
Speaker 1: on Austin Reeves, who's playing the best basketball of his career,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's a great third option.
Speaker 1: And before Lucas, someone who was running the running the
Speaker 1: team in crunch time, when when Lebron didn't have the ball.
Speaker 1: So as a coach, what are you trying to communicate
Speaker 1: to your team and get across to your team to
Speaker 1: have those three particularly jail habits.
Speaker 5: You got to create the habits right, Like, you know,
Speaker 5: you gotta be serviceable in the defensive schemes, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you really gotta get the buy
Speaker 5: in from the superstar players if it's gonna trickle down
Speaker 5: to the whole roster. And a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 5: JJ's been a part of a lot of great coaching.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, He's had a lot of great coaches.
Speaker 5: Doc Rivers saying Van Gundy coach k a lot of
Speaker 5: those guys.
Speaker 3: So you gotta get buy in.
Speaker 5: You have to get those guys to buy in and except,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, their role and their responsibility
Speaker 5: to the team, especially on the defensive level, on the
Speaker 5: defensive end, because offensively, Luca and Lebron they're talented enough
Speaker 5: to figure things out. They're smart enough. They can pass,
Speaker 5: they can dribble, they can shoot, they can post up,
Speaker 5: they can they can do everything. And so it's the
Speaker 5: buy in really that that that's that's gonna have to happen,
Speaker 5: and that's that's what He's gonna have to look in
Speaker 5: the mirror and tell himself, Luca has got to get
Speaker 5: better on the defensive end.
Speaker 3: He's got to give himself to the game holistically.
Speaker 5: Even if you don't have your legs on the offensive end,
Speaker 5: being out there sometimes you know you can you can
Speaker 5: be that facilitator, you know what I mean, you can
Speaker 5: just being out there, can you know, call spacing issues.
Speaker 5: So Luca's really just gonna have to buy in on
Speaker 5: the defensive level. I know JJ's, you know, losing a
Speaker 5: lot of sleep. I could see he's aging already. That's
Speaker 5: my young boy too, And you know, I think he'll
Speaker 5: put them in a position to be successful. But like
Speaker 5: like I said, man, it's a cheat code. Up up, down, down, left, right, left, right,
Speaker 5: VA select star. It's a contra cheat code.
Speaker 1: When you have that's thirty lives. That's thirty lives. This
Speaker 1: team is sitting at fourth in the West. They won
Speaker 1: sixth straight. Obviously, the Mark Williams trade fell through, and
Speaker 1: I just think, and I already and I don't even
Speaker 1: want to be up here talking bad, but just what
Speaker 1: a what a piece of shit move by the Hornets.
Speaker 1: You mean, you knew what the deal was you try
Speaker 1: to pull a fast one. And this is not a
Speaker 1: knock on the players at all, but I just I
Speaker 1: was already thinking that the Hornets are just such a
Speaker 1: bad organization, and you know, this kind of just shines
Speaker 1: a spotlight, you know, on that. I thought adding a
Speaker 1: Mark Williams, who is a lob threat, who is a
Speaker 1: you know, nearly a double double guy, a young kid too,
Speaker 1: could have really set them up, you know, for him
Speaker 1: to play his role in this team to achieve what
Speaker 1: they need to achieve. That trade is rescinded. You know,
Speaker 1: all jokes aside Jackson Hayes is are only big guy
Speaker 1: right now. They don't have money to really go out
Speaker 1: and get people in the buy out market. Keon, you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard is sitting at home,
Speaker 1: and there's some other people sitting at home right now,
Speaker 1: jack Where does this team go to try to find
Speaker 1: some frontline depth? Again, Jackson Hayes there, but he's still
Speaker 1: young and I'm not sure if he's someone you can
Speaker 1: count on yet in the playoffs. Where do you think
Speaker 1: they go to sure up that front line, or at
Speaker 1: least sure up that front line for the remainder of
Speaker 1: this season them.
Speaker 4: I mean Javel again, Dwight, how Dwight, Howse on people
Speaker 4: I can think of. But regardless of what they do,
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna win it this year. In my opinion,
Speaker 4: they need to. They got to make a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of moves. You know what I'm saying. They can make
Speaker 4: it entertaining. Yeah, they can see you know, get Dwhite
Speaker 4: or Javel mcgeeze. I think those two guys give them
Speaker 4: the presence they need right now to make a run
Speaker 4: and to look and to make it look good.
Speaker 2: Because those guys are experienced.
Speaker 4: They know they know the role they need to play
Speaker 4: to come in which with Lebron and Luca protect the room,
Speaker 4: catch libs, all that type of stuff, sat screens role,
Speaker 4: they know all that type of stuff. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, man, whatever they're doing is just
Speaker 4: spinning their reels. Right now, I think this summer they
Speaker 4: really can open open up what they got, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, see how they can make moves. I
Speaker 4: think this summer is really when you I mean next season,
Speaker 4: it's really we're gonna see this Lakers team be the
Speaker 4: team it could be.
Speaker 2: But right now, everything's just for nothing.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think they have a
Speaker 1: lot of really good pieces. I mean I like Finny Smith,
Speaker 1: I like Hachie Mora, obviously, I love Reeves. I think
Speaker 1: it's the front line that needs to shure up. And
Speaker 1: again to your point, Stack, I mean, there's there's guys
Speaker 1: that have been contemplated retirement are the only guys that
Speaker 1: can really go after So those are just to be
Speaker 1: the plug hole this year. But again, you know, to
Speaker 1: take a look under the hood, I don't think they
Speaker 1: need a ton I think going into this summer they're
Speaker 1: gonna need frontline help and depth. And I think outside
Speaker 1: of that, they got a lot of other good pieces.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier this Kevin Durant situation with matt Ishbia
Speaker 1: and and and the new ownership. And you know, Bob
Speaker 1: Myers came out and talked on NBA today or was
Speaker 1: it NBA or with it today NBA today.
Speaker 6: So I saw Kevin at a football game a few
Speaker 6: weeks ago and I asked him before all this, and
Speaker 6: I said, hey, are you good?
Speaker 2: You happy?
Speaker 6: And he said to my face, I don't want to
Speaker 6: go anywhere else. I don't want to be traded. He
Speaker 6: I'm and I believe it, and I believe he has
Speaker 6: felt that way all along. But then when you hear
Speaker 6: your name being mentioned out of for him, at least,
Speaker 6: I think it was a shock.
Speaker 2: He was kind of like, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't push for this, I didn't ask for this,
Speaker 6: And then to hear all the people spec your on
Speaker 6: the Warriors. I actually think the Warriors did the right
Speaker 6: thing by honoring Kevin's request. Kevin could have gone anywhere
Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, any team he wanted to go to,
Speaker 6: he could have went to.
Speaker 2: He went to the Warriors.
Speaker 6: And he's the only person in that whole equation that
Speaker 6: took criticism for it. I didn't, Joelacob didn't, Steve Kurr didn't,
Speaker 6: Steph Curry didn't, Draymond Grad didn't. Only Kevin was the
Speaker 6: one that faced scrutiny. So whatever Kevin would want, had
Speaker 6: I still been with the Warriors, Kevin would get. He
Speaker 6: brought two championships, tried for a third, ended up getting
Speaker 6: hurt in that pursuit two finals MVPs. So I liked
Speaker 6: that the Warriors said we hear you, we wanted you,
Speaker 6: We respect that you don't want to be here, that's fine.
Speaker 6: But now if you're Kevin right to your question, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're sitting there going, hang on a second, here, I
Speaker 6: am doing what you pay me to do. I'm playing basketball.
Speaker 6: I'm playing at a very good high rate. And now
Speaker 6: I hear my name being mentioned. So he's a human being.
Speaker 6: You know, we try to mytholog mythologize.
Speaker 3: He's got he's a guy, So kurk.
Speaker 6: You know him when you played. I'm not a player,
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I imagine as a human being.
Speaker 1: You're kind of shaking up talking about how Kevin was
Speaker 1: completely blindsided that he was being fished around or shopped
Speaker 1: around to anybody because he had, you know, hadn't made
Speaker 1: a you know, inquiry about wanting to be traded or
Speaker 1: needed to be traded. He was very content and happy
Speaker 1: where he was. And actually our boy Rich Climban retweeted
Speaker 1: that and then deleted it because it just made it
Speaker 1: seem like KAD was happy to be out in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: But again my point about these newer owners not understanding
Speaker 1: the lay of the land. Would you we all agree
Speaker 1: that KD has done enough in this league too. If
Speaker 1: this is going to be what you want to do
Speaker 1: when I respect it because of that, As you said, KD,
Speaker 1: it is a business. Could you at least give me
Speaker 1: a heads up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, they damn social it gave him a
Speaker 2: heads up.
Speaker 4: I mean, god damn. He didn't have to come there.
Speaker 4: He had options before he signed with Phoenix. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he can't. He did, y'all solid,
Speaker 4: and with everything that's going on with Bradley Beal, with
Speaker 4: everything that's going on with that team, he's the only
Speaker 4: thing solid him book or the only thing you got
Speaker 4: siled and two guys that you are lucky to have
Speaker 4: at the same time, two of the best shooters ever
Speaker 4: played the game. So I don't like how they handled it.
Speaker 4: But I know how KD is. Kd's a real one,
Speaker 4: and he don't.
Speaker 2: He don't like disrespected shit and shady shit like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, he don't like it. So
Speaker 2: I know in the back of his mind. I hope
Speaker 2: in the back of his mind.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say, I know, I hope in the
Speaker 4: back of his mind this summer that he get the
Speaker 4: fuck on and go somewhere else and get him a
Speaker 4: couple more championships.
Speaker 1: When we get out of here.
Speaker 5: KD thoughts, Yeah, I look, I think there's a certain
Speaker 5: level of respect and communication and responsibility that the superstars have.
Speaker 3: Attributed to the game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: The game got bigger on their watch, The money pole
Speaker 5: got bigger, the pot got bigger, our fan base group
Speaker 5: on their watch.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, these guys.
Speaker 5: Are legendary players, and when you have an opportunity, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, to make a move or make a trade
Speaker 5: or have a conversation, I think those things need to
Speaker 5: be had along the way.
Speaker 3: Some guys earn that, right.
Speaker 5: We also understand that it's a business, but some guys
Speaker 5: supersede the business.
Speaker 3: Some guys are bigger. It's bigger than Nino Brown.
Speaker 5: It's bigger, you know what I mean in basketball in
Speaker 5: a certain sense. Man with Kevin Garnett, I mean, excuse me,
Speaker 5: but Kevin Durant, he's one of those transformational, you know,
Speaker 5: players for the last ten years.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you do want to have those conversations.
Speaker 5: And I think they had those conversations, but retroactively after
Speaker 5: already kind of doing some shot act, you know, And
Speaker 5: it hasn't worked in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: It has not worked. It just hasn't worked out.
Speaker 5: You know, they had some they got a big three,
Speaker 5: they got some pieces to the puzzle, but it just
Speaker 5: hadn't all come together. And I don't believe the basketball
Speaker 5: God's reward. You know, fractures in organizations. It's the ones
Speaker 5: who are willing to have the hard conversations, lay it
Speaker 5: all on the line, have.
Speaker 3: Some disagreements, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you know, you you know, whatever it come, whatever
Speaker 5: comes with that, those are the ones who get over
Speaker 5: that hump. And I just don't think they have the
Speaker 5: capacity in Phoenix right now. Are the infrastructure in place
Speaker 5: to be able to have those kind of conversations and
Speaker 5: to have and build and respect Kevin Durant as he
Speaker 5: should be respected.
Speaker 1: I think it starts at the top. You know, winning
Speaker 1: starts at the top, and that's with ownership. And we
Speaker 1: all know that Kevin will never let this shit that
Speaker 1: happened affect his on the court play. But we also
Speaker 1: know Kevin is someone who holds grudges. Oh yeah, And
Speaker 1: we don't know why he didn't want to go to
Speaker 1: go back to Golden State, but we understand that there
Speaker 1: was some shit that went on at Golden State. So
Speaker 1: that's something in the back of his mind. So this is,
Speaker 1: you know, to Matt Ishpia and Phoenix management, you guys
Speaker 1: need to fix this during the season because what you
Speaker 1: did is obviously more than enough for him to want
Speaker 1: to bounce. So to that organization, if you appreciate Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant and what he's done and what he can still do,
Speaker 1: you guys need to fix that shit. And then I
Speaker 1: think the other point is to Bradley bial I think
Speaker 1: that was just a and I like Bradley bial I
Speaker 1: just think it was a horrible move. And I said
Speaker 1: it when he came over. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: horrible move to send him to Phoenix because all those
Speaker 1: guys do the same thing, and he has this big
Speaker 1: old crazy Washington contract that gives him power of attorney.
Speaker 1: You always want the power, I mean, so I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not mad at him just taking any goddamn deal. But
Speaker 1: I think it started back when they signed Bradley Beal
Speaker 1: to bring him to Phoenix, because they could have got
Speaker 1: a lot of other pieces that would have complimented your
Speaker 1: two superstars that were already there. With football over the
Speaker 1: NCAA basketball is heating up, some would say, and there's
Speaker 1: some young prospects, young prospects that'll be you know, top
Speaker 1: of the board in this upcoming draft. Kdie breakdown who
Speaker 1: you think the top five men's college prospects are in
Speaker 1: this year's draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think it's a young boy draft, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like all the guys who I feel like are the
Speaker 5: top five prospects are freshman's you know, and not to
Speaker 5: you know, throw dirt on any of the seniors and
Speaker 5: guys who've been putting in working college ball for a while.
Speaker 3: But man, these young boys.
Speaker 2: They got it.
Speaker 3: They got the holistic package. I think you have to
Speaker 3: start that off with.
Speaker 5: Cooper flag right, you know, reclassifying coming in at seventeen
Speaker 5: years old, putting in work, getting his body in condition.
Speaker 3: He was, he was cramping early in the in the season.
Speaker 5: He got an opportunity in the summertime to play against
Speaker 5: the USA basketball team, showed up and showed out. And
Speaker 5: I just think from from a time and standpoint and
Speaker 5: from a fan based standpoint, Cooper's timing is impeccable, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: We need that demographic, you know, to be engaged and
Speaker 5: be able to see a piece of themselves.
Speaker 1: Katie, Katie, what what what demographic is that we need.
Speaker 3: We need to we need we need our we need
Speaker 3: our fan base.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We need we need you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like you know, like when Larry Bird and Magic was there,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, the.
Speaker 3: Game grew, you know, like we need you know, the.
Speaker 1: Fan base, Melanie.
Speaker 5: We we need some white from the United States, of
Speaker 5: the of America, of the America, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because like this is our game, right, it's our game.
Speaker 5: It's it's you know, a lot of the of the
Speaker 5: white players come from international, so there's not that feel
Speaker 5: that you can feel if you're up in the Northeast,
Speaker 5: or if you're from the Midwest, or if you're from
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, certain regions of our country.
Speaker 5: And so Cooper will allow a fan base to see
Speaker 5: a piece of himself the same way King McCarg as,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I think that'll and
Speaker 5: and he's got it, He's got all the two. So
Speaker 5: I think he's the biggest draft prospect we've seen in
Speaker 5: quite some time, not only from a playing standpoint, but
Speaker 5: also just from a growth of the game, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Here domestically, like Cooper will be very very good for
Speaker 3: our game.
Speaker 5: And he's got a motor, he's got a skill set,
Speaker 5: he's got swagger, he's got confidence, he got dog and
Speaker 5: I'm loving everything and I'm loving his growth and his
Speaker 5: evolution as he progresses.
Speaker 1: Who else you got in that mix?
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, man, it's uh, it's so funny
Speaker 5: because there's so many of our.
Speaker 3: Guys who played in the league who got sons coming
Speaker 3: up crazy.
Speaker 5: But like Dylan Harper, you know, I know he's been heard,
Speaker 5: but man, he's a combination of like Jalen Brunson and
Speaker 5: like Ramone Sessions as far as in pick and roll right,
Speaker 5: because he's got a big body, he's a lefty, he's
Speaker 5: got an incredible pace. I think he's somebody who has
Speaker 5: a lot of upside. His game will translate very very
Speaker 5: easily to the next level. And he plays on both
Speaker 5: ends of the four. And he's got he's cut from
Speaker 5: that pedigree, right, you know what I mean? O g
Speaker 5: Ron Harper was a beast back in the days. He's
Speaker 5: got a teammate over there who's extremely talented in Ace Bailey.
Speaker 5: Ace has got it, man. He doesn't need a lot
Speaker 5: of dribbles to get a shot off. He can make
Speaker 5: tough shots. He's got to become more efficient right in
Speaker 5: his game and play more with the motor. But man,
Speaker 5: he's got a skill set at six nine to sixteen,
Speaker 5: can shoot, can dribble, can pass. I think he's an
Speaker 5: extremely talented player. There's this kid out of Baylor. He's
Speaker 5: freaking nature VJ. Edgecombe. He's a freaking nature athletically kind
Speaker 5: of like Scoop Henderson, Dwayne Wade, like cut from that
Speaker 5: athletic cough had a really really good summer with the
Speaker 5: Bahamian team internationally and has really emerged man in the
Speaker 5: last two three weeks at Baylor, and so he's one
Speaker 5: of those guys man that is super athletic, super quick,
Speaker 5: got a good feel for the game. I think his
Speaker 5: game will be better suited for the NBA, especially with
Speaker 5: not being able to touch, with being able to get
Speaker 5: out in transition, and not necessarily, you know, having to
Speaker 5: play against all those four arms in college. I think
Speaker 5: edgecomb Is will also be somebody you'll probably see in
Speaker 5: the top five, top seven picks in the draft.
Speaker 2: I man, at that.
Speaker 1: Jack Cooper Flag is the coldest white boy since what m.
Speaker 4: He's the coldest white boys since until we see Larry
Speaker 4: bird Son.
Speaker 1: He ain't got a son. I don't think that kid's
Speaker 1: his son. But yeah, when they say he plays like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that motherfucker there. I've been watching them a three
Speaker 2: months now. Man.
Speaker 3: He's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's nice. There's a white boy that they said,
Speaker 1: they say it's Larry sub but I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it is either. But this motherfucker
Speaker 2: is the truth.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta check him out.
Speaker 1: He's still this since LB. Huh. Hey, before we get
Speaker 1: you guys out of here. Super Bowl just happened this
Speaker 1: past weekend. Eagles beat the dog ship out of Kansas City. Man,
Speaker 1: so it happens when Trump roots for your team, you
Speaker 1: get cursed. But outside of the actual game the performance,
Speaker 1: Kendrick's performance has been met with love, hate, uh, frustration,
Speaker 1: admiration uh. And I feel like, personally, I feel like
Speaker 1: this was one of those performances that we're going to
Speaker 1: be dissecting for the next two to three weeks to
Speaker 1: find out all the different meanings and and and and
Speaker 1: reasoning behind. But what I will say is he came
Speaker 1: out here and he made a statement for hip hop,
Speaker 1: for the black culture during Black History Month, and really
Speaker 1: kind of. I think Jermaine Dupriez said it best and
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people took what he
Speaker 1: said the wrong way. He said he was glad that
Speaker 1: people had an issue with it because we've all thrown
Speaker 1: music like it was gumbo and it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: Rap ain't supposed to be for everyone. That performance wasn't
Speaker 1: for you, Jason Whitlocke. You're a white man stuck in
Speaker 1: a black man's body. That's why I don't expect you
Speaker 1: to be fucking with that, and that's why I expected
Speaker 1: you the next day to coon like you cooned. But
Speaker 1: outside of that, what did you guys think about Kendrick's performance?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, for me, it was the dope shone
Speaker 4: some of the dober shit I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Matt, I ain't we even lie. I enjoyed every bit
Speaker 2: of it. Man.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean to to some to have
Speaker 4: somebody one of us, you know what I mean that
Speaker 4: come from the backgrounds and the culture we come from,
Speaker 4: to get on that and to and to not go
Speaker 4: up there and just to make it about uh, cars,
Speaker 4: clothes and money, but to have the biggest moment, uh
Speaker 4: that he's ever had, and to make a statement and
Speaker 4: speak for all of us. You know that that means
Speaker 4: something to me, bro, because I've that you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I put myself in a position for for
Speaker 4: all our people. So for him to take his moment,
Speaker 4: his biggest moment and to the choice of songs everything
Speaker 4: the way he did it with Samuel Jackson with the
Speaker 4: flag I had, I had to break it down, mat
Speaker 4: to see a lot of stuff, even with the kid
Speaker 4: man on the like, you know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: It's lot of stuff people saying that, you know, but
Speaker 4: I think I think it was super dope, man. And
Speaker 4: like like like a lot of people say, you don't
Speaker 4: have to not like Drake or or to do mean
Speaker 4: Drake to like this performance. This performance was dope. So
Speaker 4: just just just learn how to appreciate Kendrick being the
Speaker 4: boss right now hip hop. It's his time. He's doing
Speaker 4: it the right way. He's doing it like nobody else
Speaker 4: has ever done. And you gotta just you got to
Speaker 4: just take your hat off of somebody's being great, bro,
Speaker 4: because we don't see shit like this often, especially in
Speaker 4: the rap game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Doc Man is He's amazing. He's an
Speaker 5: artistic performer. And you know what I mean, Like his
Speaker 5: show is just not him on the mic. It's constant movement.
Speaker 5: It's constant symbolism that you have to dissect and dco.
Speaker 3: It's total energy, it's voice command, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's it's the right fits. Sinsy came out there wearing
Speaker 3: that thing owner. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 3: all that's done, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it to me?
Speaker 5: You know, it was entertaining, but it wasn't divisive in
Speaker 5: my opinion, it's inclusive. Like a part of our American
Speaker 5: history is the black experience, and you know when we
Speaker 5: have voices and people who share that through symbolism, through song.
Speaker 5: We've always used song and music to express what we
Speaker 5: endure and what we feel and our experience in this culture. Right,
Speaker 5: and to have the super Bowl, have him on that platform,
Speaker 5: and for him to take it, you know, to so
Speaker 5: many levels, right and bring so many different local cultures
Speaker 5: from California because he was riding in his gn.
Speaker 3: X, you know what I mean, to bring you know,
Speaker 3: the red, White and Brew, to bring Uncle.
Speaker 5: Him in there, right, you know, and you those parallels,
Speaker 5: but then also to bring a part of hip hop
Speaker 5: culture like I'm still gonna I'm gonna look at this
Speaker 5: camera and I'm gonna still do this disc on shit, right,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Because a part of hip
Speaker 5: hop is competition. It's not always beef. It's competition. The
Speaker 5: same way we grew up in competition, the same way
Speaker 5: we competed against each other. Y'all had to match up
Speaker 5: against each other. And y'all love each other, y'all give
Speaker 5: money together, y'all go on vacation together. But guess what
Speaker 5: in between those lines, y'all was gonna knuckle up by
Speaker 5: his competition, right, And hip hop is about that. And
Speaker 5: so I think he embodies that. It was impressive performance.
Speaker 5: Me and my family we watched it. We showed out,
Speaker 5: we did all the dances. And then he patty too,
Speaker 5: like he got.
Speaker 3: To he is Petty Serena coming out doing her thing.
Speaker 5: I just thought it was a It was a very
Speaker 5: cool concept, and I think he delivered, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And for all those naysayers when the music
Speaker 5: went down and you heard everybody say a like get involved.
Speaker 3: With the whole world set that the people in the
Speaker 3: building were feeling.
Speaker 1: Fucking with it absolutely. I mean from the PlayStation control
Speaker 1: to the game over old crowd. I don't think we
Speaker 1: talk enough about what Samuel L. Jackson meant to that performance,
Speaker 1: because he was the He was the He was the
Speaker 1: quote unquote white opinion. Oh you you brought your homies
Speaker 1: for the culture. That's one less life, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? He you know, you guys are too ghetto.
Speaker 1: He was all the bullshit that is talked towards our culture,
Speaker 1: not just Kendrick, but towards our culture as a whole.
Speaker 1: He was the one and it every time he says something,
Speaker 1: Kendrick had of answer for us. I just thought, very well,
Speaker 1: put together, very creative. If I'm not mistaken. One hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three and a half million people view that,
Speaker 1: which would put it at the top, Which would put
Speaker 1: it at the top. Man, So man, shout out to
Speaker 1: the whole TDD family, Shout out to Kendrick, and again
Speaker 1: and again to love what to love what Kendrick did.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you hate Drake.
Speaker 4: Exactly a Matt, But no, I want to say one
Speaker 4: thing too. You know, it was the thing about this
Speaker 4: whole thing to me, like it's a video. It's it's
Speaker 4: a rapper name a Z A Z Cheek. I think
Speaker 4: something like that. He on a song called Peekaboo. He
Speaker 4: didn't make the super Bowl, but it's a video on
Speaker 4: him and his family watching Kendrick sing part of his verse.
Speaker 2: Bro And if you've seen the joy and him and
Speaker 2: his family watching Kendricks.
Speaker 4: But that that that made me feel good because that's
Speaker 4: that's how your patn is supposed to put you on.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We all know it was
Speaker 4: a limited amount of people that Kidrick can have. But
Speaker 4: if I can't get my pot, let me wrap his
Speaker 4: verse while.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think that was the
Speaker 2: dope shit about the whole thing to me, But he.
Speaker 1: Gave he showed respect to a lot of different things,
Speaker 1: whether it be cities, people, culture. It was dope O KD.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, definitely looking.
Speaker 3: Man, appreciating your week. Let's keep it up.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you know what Jack NBA All Star twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, San Francisco, California. We'll be heading out there
Speaker 1: in two days.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You know this is a place where you
Speaker 1: know you and I really started our brotherhood and our
Speaker 1: friendship back in the day. We have a great run.
Speaker 1: And then in the mid two thousands, and you know,
Speaker 1: now it's back out here in our company. That that's
Speaker 1: that sounds good to say. Our company is going out
Speaker 1: there to set up a flag.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about All Star coming up
Speaker 1: this week?
Speaker 2: Always gonna be good to be back in the Bay Man.
Speaker 4: So many memories, I think some uh, definitely some of
Speaker 4: my best years playing basketball. Uh, some of the best
Speaker 4: fans I got, some of I think the relationships that
Speaker 4: I built while I was playing.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those relationships I built out
Speaker 2: there I still have today.
Speaker 4: So I think Oakland, Oakland, San Francisco is a is
Speaker 4: a special place in my heart. Is gonna be It's
Speaker 4: gonna be good to bring our show back. I think
Speaker 4: not only for us, but the city, the whole Bay
Speaker 4: Area been asking us to come for so long. I'm
Speaker 4: getting so many cars and texts, texts trying to get
Speaker 4: to the show. How can I get tickets and all
Speaker 4: this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Bruh. So it's gonna it's gonna good to be back
Speaker 2: with family. Man. I think I think it's only right there.
Speaker 4: We bring all the smoke back and playing our flag
Speaker 4: there because that is one of our homes.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, We're blessed to have the run TMC. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Tim Men and Chris with the
Speaker 1: run TMC team and then also man a Rebelieve reunion
Speaker 1: with some of our brothers. Man, I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to that. So those are gonna be two live shows
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're doing a brunch on Sunday honoring Too
Speaker 1: Short and He forty with Larussell Cure rating. Are welcome
Speaker 1: to All Star Live Show with Kevin Garnett. You know,
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett was our first live show at All Star.
Speaker 1: Was that All Star sixteen twenty twenty, twenty twenty, the
Speaker 1: Pandemic All Star. So we're gonna catch up with him
Speaker 1: with some special guests dropping through that show our welcome dinner. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it to me again. And I think I've said this.
Speaker 1: I mean for us to be able to play out
Speaker 1: there and me be from you know, our way from there,
Speaker 1: but for us to go back there, man, damn here
Speaker 1: twenty years later, almost twenty years later as a business
Speaker 1: as a company. Man, I'm really proud of that and
Speaker 1: obviously couldn't have done that without you, bro. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you and I love you. I'm definitely looking forward
Speaker 1: to having some fun out there.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, me too.
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap for this week unplugged. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys tuning in.
Speaker 2: Have a good week.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kendrick Man, even shout out Drake. He's
Speaker 1: out there doing this thing right now in Australia doing
Speaker 1: his thing, and memory to love one, you don't have
Speaker 1: to hate the other. Make sure you guys catch us
Speaker 1: on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network.
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.