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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. On today's episode, will be joining

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Speaker 1: my brother Stack five and my brother Kean Dueling. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to them, I want to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about these new NBA owners. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: with Patrick DeMont, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, who

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago made one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: trades in NBA history. You can agree or disagree whether

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Speaker 1: it's a good trade bad trade for any team, and

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Speaker 1: this by no means is demeaning any either player in

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Speaker 1: the situation. But what I had a hard time with

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Speaker 1: was him trying to kick Luca on the way out,

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Speaker 1: disrespecting him every step of the way. And this is

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Speaker 1: a guy, from everything we research, has no history in sports,

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Speaker 1: and particularly no history in basketball. This guy married into

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Speaker 1: money and was gifted this position. We've all known and

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Speaker 1: loved Dallas for a long time. Obviously, Mark Cuban's going

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Speaker 1: to go down as one of the greatest owners in history.

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Speaker 1: It's always been a destination and always been one of

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Speaker 1: the best ran organizations, not just in the NBA but

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Speaker 1: in professional sports history. But of late, it almost seems

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Speaker 1: like things have been crumbling. You know, over two thousand

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Speaker 1: Dallas Map subscribers have dropped their subscription. Uh, there's been

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Speaker 1: protests at the arena. They've bought graves to the arena,

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Speaker 1: you know, fans of you know said there there issues

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Speaker 1: with the trade. Jason Kidd didn't speak to the media

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Speaker 1: after the first game.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of been a mess. Fans were thrown

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Speaker 1: guess jeopardizing or disrespectful towards management. And it seems like

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Speaker 1: once an organization that was once highly touted and and

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Speaker 1: organizations is slowly crumbling in front of us. When Patrick

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Speaker 1: DeMont talked to the Dallas media, he said that Luca

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Speaker 1: just really doesn't fit the shape almost of the greats

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Speaker 1: before him, the Jordan's, the Birds, the Shacks, the Kobe's.

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Speaker 1: Spoke on his work ethic and him kind of being

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Speaker 1: a lazy player and all kinds of again, just disrespectful

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Speaker 1: things you normally don't hear from an owner. But does

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Speaker 1: this surprise you? This kind of reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: guy sitting in the Oval office right now, always disrespecting,

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Speaker 1: always kind of take low shots at people. But to

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Speaker 1: no surprise, this leadership of the Dallas Mavericks donated one

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Speaker 1: hundred million to Trump. So maybe they took a page

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Speaker 1: out of his book on the disrespectful tip. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that Luca doesn't have a lot to work

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Speaker 1: just his energy overall. But let's not forget this guy

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Speaker 1: is twenty five years old. This guy is taking his

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Speaker 1: team to the NBA finals last year. Took him to

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals two years ago and dropped seventy

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Speaker 1: three points, which is the fourth highest total in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league and second highest in this era,

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Speaker 1: right behind Kobe's eighty one. The owner has an issue with, again,

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Speaker 1: just the way Luca carries himself. I always thought this bit,

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Speaker 1: this situation was above Nico. I always thought this had

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Speaker 1: to be coming from the top. We all know this.

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Speaker 1: This new ownership tried to come in and do the

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Speaker 1: whole casino thing and it just didn't pan out. Then

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Speaker 1: they tried to make a jump to Vegas and that

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Speaker 1: didn't pan out. So when their pan was empty and

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Speaker 1: they made a bad trade. Now all they can do

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Speaker 1: is try to talk shit about Luca. But we've all

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Speaker 1: seen Luca and again he does is he has some flaws.

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Speaker 1: I think every player has some flaws. He has some

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Speaker 1: things he needs to work on, absolutely, But it tried

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Speaker 1: to demean and disrespect one of the greatest players in

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest players in history. I just think

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Speaker 1: it was very poor taste. Also, the Mark Cuban angle

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Speaker 1: is interesting because when he sold the team, we all

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Speaker 1: caught word that he'll still be in on basketball decisions.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was a promise given by new ownership that

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Speaker 1: they didn't follow through with. But when Cuban heard about this,

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Speaker 1: he tried everything he could to stop it, but it

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Speaker 1: was too late. Luca is loved and be loved in

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Speaker 1: the city of Dallas, in a state that's known for

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Speaker 1: old Stlovenian kid that has come over here and taken

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Speaker 1: the crowd to show his support the one and only

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Speaker 1: legendary Dirk Nowitzki. Mister Deumont, take a step back, take

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Speaker 1: a seat. You know nothing about hard work or what

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Speaker 1: it takes to be great. You married into money. Sit

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Speaker 1: with this trade that you made. Hopefully Anthony Davis gets

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Speaker 1: healthy and I wish Dallas Mavericks the best moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But shut the fuck up, man. We all know how

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Speaker 1: good Luca is. We don't give a fuck what you

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Speaker 1: have to say. Just sit back and be an owner.

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Speaker 1: And now to dive a little bit deeper into this conversation,

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome my brother Stephen. You listen, s

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Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson and keon the beak doing.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're doing today. That's what we are.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Obviously all three of us are are are very big

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Speaker 1: on respect. And Jack I'll start with you. What kind

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Speaker 1: of presidents does this start? You know, as a new

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Speaker 1: owner there doesn't really know shit about basketball, you know,

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Speaker 1: kicking Luca on the way out. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: when you hear that? Will that deter other stars to

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Speaker 1: wanting to actually go to Dallas?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, and no, I mean it's it's kind

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Speaker 4: of similar, you know with how Pat Roley hand to

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Speaker 4: handle Jim in situation.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, people don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I might want to go deal with Miami because I

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Speaker 4: handle Jim, and that's kind of the same with Dallas.

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Speaker 4: But I look at it different. You know, we all

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Speaker 4: on the outside looking in at one. Let's get that understood.

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Speaker 4: We all on the outside looking in. But one thing

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Speaker 4: we one thing we can see we can't see as

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Speaker 4: players from the outside looking in, is that louis the

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Speaker 4: highest paid player on that team, but he doesn't give

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Speaker 4: the highest paid player effort every night.

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Speaker 2: And that's no knock on him. That's just what we see,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's what we see.

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Speaker 4: And I think these days, especially when you got a

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Speaker 4: and played a one hundred ten percent every night un team,

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Speaker 4: he can't play no more, you know, I think you

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Speaker 4: know that, And with a guy like Nico that Nico,

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Speaker 4: Nico is cool with a lot of the dogs in the.

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Speaker 2: NBA, he ain't cool, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Everybody that got Nico got his respect from real people

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Speaker 4: in basketball, from a lot of the top names and

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Speaker 4: a lot of the dogs. So you know, when you

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Speaker 4: got a guy like that, especially, times are changing. When

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Speaker 4: you got a guy like that, You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: that that's possibly finish. Get three hundred and something million,

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Speaker 4: and we can't depend on you to be on the call,

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Speaker 4: We can't depend on you to work, We can't depend

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Speaker 4: on you to lead, not just on the court, but

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Speaker 4: in the weight room and practice and stuff like that. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that will bother some people. You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it would bother me if

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Speaker 4: I if I owned the team and I got to

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Speaker 4: pay you three hundred million and you not leading the

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Speaker 4: way you should lead. As far as what I seen

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Speaker 4: from Tim Duncan, he's the first one in the weight room,

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Speaker 4: the last one to lead practice. He gonna lead by example.

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Speaker 4: He gonna make everybody better. That's what you spect from

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Speaker 4: a guy like that. And we all know Luca's not

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Speaker 4: that guy. Is he a great offensive player? He's probably

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Speaker 4: the best, one of the best offensive players we've ever

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Speaker 4: seen play this game, no question. But when you a

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Speaker 4: guy that you asked for three hundred million, it's more

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Speaker 4: as expected from you, too.

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Speaker 2: Too much is given, more as much as required.

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Speaker 4: And if you're gonna if you're gonna ask for three

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Speaker 4: hundred men, you better go out there be the first

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Speaker 4: person in practice, the last one to leave. You better

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Speaker 4: be out there playing defense, dying for boss and being

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Speaker 4: that player they expect you to be. But we all

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Speaker 4: know Luca's not gonna be that guy. So if they're

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Speaker 4: gonna give three hundred men to somebody, they want to

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Speaker 4: give it to somebody like that. And then they got

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Speaker 4: a chance to move Luke and get Anthony David. Somebody's

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Speaker 4: gonna give way more effort. As you see, even though

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Speaker 4: he had his entry kicked back in the first game,

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Speaker 4: you've seen what he can do. Like, I would rather

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Speaker 4: a guy like that me personally than a guy like Lucas,

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Speaker 4: who's a who's a bigger worldwide star and a greater

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Speaker 4: great offensive player, but not giving me everything everything I

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Speaker 4: need as the star on my team.

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Speaker 3: K Yeah, man, I mean I think this says precedents, right.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a part of it that you know

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Speaker 5: when you got new ownership, right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: They don't know the lay of the land, they don't

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Speaker 5: know the customs, they don't know the value of guys, right,

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Speaker 5: They just you know, kind of see it like you know,

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Speaker 5: as a spectator somewhat, but when you're in it, you

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Speaker 5: know the value of the player.

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Speaker 3: I think this is bad, you know what I mean

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Speaker 3: in a sense.

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Speaker 5: Where max players have a driven revenue, driven ticket sales,

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Speaker 5: driven fan bases, and Luca has really connected with that

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Speaker 5: city in a way that had you hadn't really seen

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Speaker 5: since Dirk, you know, And so I think there's a

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Speaker 5: there's a part of that fan base it's hurting, right,

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Speaker 5: But also on the other side, I see that.

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Speaker 3: It's a business.

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Speaker 5: It is a business, and ultimately the NBA wins. It's

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Speaker 5: a win win for the NBA. Now Luca misses out

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Speaker 5: on that Supermax.

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Speaker 2: Right, you can't.

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Speaker 5: He can't get that back, you know, through the CBA,

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Speaker 5: through the collective bargaining, but he'll probably you know, earn

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Speaker 5: it back with reputation, Jersey sales, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, and brand equity out in you know,

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Speaker 3: La La Land. Right.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, man, this this sets a precedent, you know,

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Speaker 5: for players to be more in power, right, you know,

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Speaker 5: we can't. We got to have that same energy when

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Speaker 5: players make a decision to go to teams that customize

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Speaker 5: their situation, that fit their situation. You know, we got

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Speaker 5: to have a little bit more leniency for when players

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Speaker 5: make the decision, because teams are doing that now, right,

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Speaker 5: We've seen some of the biggest names in basketball come

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Speaker 5: up in trade rumors.

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 5: Trade, an epic trade. It's an epic trade. And ultimately,

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Speaker 5: I still think the game benefits, you know, having your

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Speaker 5: superstars and big markets, having global superstars and big markets,

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Speaker 5: having Luca and Lebron on the same team, and then

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Speaker 5: having a d still right, still good enough in his

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Speaker 5: prime to be an All NBA player, To have Kyrie,

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Speaker 5: who's a guy who is a bona fide superstar, to

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Speaker 5: have j Kidd and have that experience.

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Speaker 3: They didn't throw the whole they didn't throw it all away.

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Speaker 5: But it also empowers the players to be able to

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Speaker 5: go out and make those decisions when free agency comes,

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Speaker 5: when trade demands comes.

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Speaker 3: You gotta respect it. It's got to be a two

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Speaker 3: way street.

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Speaker 4: what I mean. That ain't no surprise. I think, like

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Speaker 4: what Bron said. Bron said, told him, don't fit in,

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Speaker 2: And I think I think he's gonna get to that.

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Speaker 2: We know what Luca can do. Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, he coming back from an injury. So, like

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Speaker 4: We're just anxious to see that get that dose big,

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Speaker 2: See how that's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: I think he has someone to hand the keys off.

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Speaker 1: But Bron last night showed you don't motherfucker, don't forget

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, man, I mean I think Luca's gonna be

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Speaker 5: believe it or not, man, I think Lebron is humble

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Speaker 3: It's hard playing when everybody's loading up on you.

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Speaker 5: right those picking rolls up high or those side picking

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the spotlight can make some nervous. But I

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Speaker 1: He built that.

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Speaker 3: He's been doing it since he was fourteen years old.

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Speaker 3: But there's still room for improvement with him.

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Speaker 5: You'll have to like kind.

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Speaker 1: You know, Katie, I like the point you made about

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Speaker 1: think if you're on this Laker staff with JJ and

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Speaker 5: You got to create the habits right, Like, you know,

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you really gotta get the buy

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Speaker 3: Uh uh, He's had a lot of great coaches.

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Speaker 3: So you gotta get buy in.

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, their role and their responsibility

435
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,439
Speaker 5: to the team, especially on the defensive level, on the

436
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 5: defensive end, because offensively, Luca and Lebron they're talented enough

437
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: to figure things out. They're smart enough. They can pass,

438
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 5: they can dribble, they can shoot, they can post up,

439
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 5: they can they can do everything. And so it's the

440
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 5: buy in really that that that's that's gonna have to happen,

441
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 5: and that's that's what He's gonna have to look in

442
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 5: the mirror and tell himself, Luca has got to get

443
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 5: better on the defensive end.

444
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: He's got to give himself to the game holistically.

445
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,640
Speaker 5: Even if you don't have your legs on the offensive end,

446
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 5: being out there sometimes you know you can you can

447
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 5: be that facilitator, you know what I mean, you can

448
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 5: just being out there, can you know, call spacing issues.

449
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 5: So Luca's really just gonna have to buy in on

450
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 5: the defensive level. I know JJ's, you know, losing a

451
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 5: lot of sleep. I could see he's aging already. That's

452
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 5: my young boy too, And you know, I think he'll

453
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 5: put them in a position to be successful. But like

454
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 5: like I said, man, it's a cheat code. Up up, down, down, left, right, left, right,

455
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 5: VA select star. It's a contra cheat code.

456
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 1: When you have that's thirty lives. That's thirty lives. This

457
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: team is sitting at fourth in the West. They won

458
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: sixth straight. Obviously, the Mark Williams trade fell through, and

459
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 1: I just think, and I already and I don't even

460
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: want to be up here talking bad, but just what

461
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: a what a piece of shit move by the Hornets.

462
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: You mean, you knew what the deal was you try

463
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: to pull a fast one. And this is not a

464
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: knock on the players at all, but I just I

465
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: was already thinking that the Hornets are just such a

466
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: bad organization, and you know, this kind of just shines

467
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: a spotlight, you know, on that. I thought adding a

468
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: Mark Williams, who is a lob threat, who is a

469
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, nearly a double double guy, a young kid too,

470
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: could have really set them up, you know, for him

471
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: to play his role in this team to achieve what

472
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: they need to achieve. That trade is rescinded. You know,

473
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: all jokes aside Jackson Hayes is are only big guy

474
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: right now. They don't have money to really go out

475
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: and get people in the buy out market. Keon, you mentioned,

476
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard is sitting at home,

477
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: and there's some other people sitting at home right now,

478
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: jack Where does this team go to try to find

479
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: some frontline depth? Again, Jackson Hayes there, but he's still

480
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: young and I'm not sure if he's someone you can

481
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: count on yet in the playoffs. Where do you think

482
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: they go to sure up that front line, or at

483
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: least sure up that front line for the remainder of

484
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: this season them.

485
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 4: I mean Javel again, Dwight, how Dwight, Howse on people

486
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: I can think of. But regardless of what they do,

487
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna win it this year. In my opinion,

488
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: they need to. They got to make a whole bunch

489
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 4: of moves. You know what I'm saying. They can make

490
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: it entertaining. Yeah, they can see you know, get Dwhite

491
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 4: or Javel mcgeeze. I think those two guys give them

492
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 4: the presence they need right now to make a run

493
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: and to look and to make it look good.

494
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Because those guys are experienced.

495
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 4: They know they know the role they need to play

496
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: to come in which with Lebron and Luca protect the room,

497
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 4: catch libs, all that type of stuff, sat screens role,

498
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 4: they know all that type of stuff. But at the

499
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: end of the day, man, whatever they're doing is just

500
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 4: spinning their reels. Right now, I think this summer they

501
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: really can open open up what they got, you know

502
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, see how they can make moves. I

503
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 4: think this summer is really when you I mean next season,

504
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: it's really we're gonna see this Lakers team be the

505
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: team it could be.

506
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: But right now, everything's just for nothing.

507
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think they have a

508
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: lot of really good pieces. I mean I like Finny Smith,

509
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: I like Hachie Mora, obviously, I love Reeves. I think

510
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: it's the front line that needs to shure up. And

511
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: again to your point, Stack, I mean, there's there's guys

512
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: that have been contemplated retirement are the only guys that

513
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: can really go after So those are just to be

514
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: the plug hole this year. But again, you know, to

515
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: take a look under the hood, I don't think they

516
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: need a ton I think going into this summer they're

517
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna need frontline help and depth. And I think outside

518
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: of that, they got a lot of other good pieces.

519
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Jack.

520
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier this Kevin Durant situation with matt Ishbia

521
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: and and and the new ownership. And you know, Bob

522
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: Myers came out and talked on NBA today or was

523
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: it NBA or with it today NBA today.

524
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 6: So I saw Kevin at a football game a few

525
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 6: weeks ago and I asked him before all this, and

526
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 6: I said, hey, are you good?

527
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: You happy?

528
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 6: And he said to my face, I don't want to

529
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 6: go anywhere else. I don't want to be traded. He

530
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 6: I'm and I believe it, and I believe he has

531
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 6: felt that way all along. But then when you hear

532
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 6: your name being mentioned out of for him, at least,

533
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 6: I think it was a shock.

534
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: He was kind of like, I didn't.

535
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 6: I didn't push for this, I didn't ask for this,

536
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 6: And then to hear all the people spec your on

537
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 6: the Warriors. I actually think the Warriors did the right

538
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 6: thing by honoring Kevin's request. Kevin could have gone anywhere

539
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, any team he wanted to go to,

540
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 6: he could have went to.

541
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: He went to the Warriors.

542
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 6: And he's the only person in that whole equation that

543
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 6: took criticism for it. I didn't, Joelacob didn't, Steve Kurr didn't,

544
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 6: Steph Curry didn't, Draymond Grad didn't. Only Kevin was the

545
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 6: one that faced scrutiny. So whatever Kevin would want, had

546
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 6: I still been with the Warriors, Kevin would get. He

547
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 6: brought two championships, tried for a third, ended up getting

548
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 6: hurt in that pursuit two finals MVPs. So I liked

549
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: that the Warriors said we hear you, we wanted you,

550
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 6: We respect that you don't want to be here, that's fine.

551
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 6: But now if you're Kevin right to your question, yeah,

552
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 6: you're sitting there going, hang on a second, here, I

553
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 6: am doing what you pay me to do. I'm playing basketball.

554
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 6: I'm playing at a very good high rate. And now

555
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 6: I hear my name being mentioned. So he's a human being.

556
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 6: You know, we try to mytholog mythologize.

557
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: He's got he's a guy, So kurk.

558
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 6: You know him when you played. I'm not a player,

559
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I imagine as a human being.

560
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: You're kind of shaking up talking about how Kevin was

561
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: completely blindsided that he was being fished around or shopped

562
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: around to anybody because he had, you know, hadn't made

563
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: a you know, inquiry about wanting to be traded or

564
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: needed to be traded. He was very content and happy

565
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: where he was. And actually our boy Rich Climban retweeted

566
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: that and then deleted it because it just made it

567
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: seem like KAD was happy to be out in Phoenix.

568
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: But again my point about these newer owners not understanding

569
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: the lay of the land. Would you we all agree

570
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: that KD has done enough in this league too. If

571
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: this is going to be what you want to do

572
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: when I respect it because of that, As you said, KD,

573
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: it is a business. Could you at least give me

574
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: a heads up?

575
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, they damn social it gave him a

576
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: heads up.

577
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean, god damn. He didn't have to come there.

578
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: He had options before he signed with Phoenix. You know

579
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he can't. He did, y'all solid,

580
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: and with everything that's going on with Bradley Beal, with

581
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: everything that's going on with that team, he's the only

582
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: thing solid him book or the only thing you got

583
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: siled and two guys that you are lucky to have

584
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: at the same time, two of the best shooters ever

585
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: played the game. So I don't like how they handled it.

586
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 4: But I know how KD is. Kd's a real one,

587
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: and he don't.

588
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: He don't like disrespected shit and shady shit like that.

589
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, he don't like it. So

590
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: I know in the back of his mind. I hope

591
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: in the back of his mind.

592
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say, I know, I hope in the

593
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 4: back of his mind this summer that he get the

594
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: fuck on and go somewhere else and get him a

595
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: couple more championships.

596
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: When we get out of here.

597
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 5: KD thoughts, Yeah, I look, I think there's a certain

598
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 5: level of respect and communication and responsibility that the superstars have.

599
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: Attributed to the game.

600
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: Right.

601
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 5: The game got bigger on their watch, The money pole

602
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 5: got bigger, the pot got bigger, our fan base group

603
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: on their watch.

604
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: And so it's like, these guys.

605
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 5: Are legendary players, and when you have an opportunity, uh,

606
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: you know, to make a move or make a trade

607
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: or have a conversation, I think those things need to

608
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 5: be had along the way.

609
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Some guys earn that, right.

610
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: We also understand that it's a business, but some guys

611
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 5: supersede the business.

612
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: Some guys are bigger. It's bigger than Nino Brown.

613
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: It's bigger, you know what I mean in basketball in

614
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 5: a certain sense. Man with Kevin Garnett, I mean, excuse me,

615
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 5: but Kevin Durant, he's one of those transformational, you know,

616
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: players for the last ten years.

617
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you do want to have those conversations.

618
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: And I think they had those conversations, but retroactively after

619
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 5: already kind of doing some shot act, you know, And

620
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: it hasn't worked in Phoenix.

621
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: It has not worked. It just hasn't worked out.

622
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 5: You know, they had some they got a big three,

623
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: they got some pieces to the puzzle, but it just

624
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: hadn't all come together. And I don't believe the basketball

625
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: God's reward. You know, fractures in organizations. It's the ones

626
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: who are willing to have the hard conversations, lay it

627
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 5: all on the line, have.

628
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: Some disagreements, you know what I mean.

629
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: Sometimes you know, you you know, whatever it come, whatever

630
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: comes with that, those are the ones who get over

631
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: that hump. And I just don't think they have the

632
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: capacity in Phoenix right now. Are the infrastructure in place

633
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 5: to be able to have those kind of conversations and

634
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 5: to have and build and respect Kevin Durant as he

635
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: should be respected.

636
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I think it starts at the top. You know, winning

637
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: starts at the top, and that's with ownership. And we

638
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: all know that Kevin will never let this shit that

639
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: happened affect his on the court play. But we also

640
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: know Kevin is someone who holds grudges. Oh yeah, And

641
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: we don't know why he didn't want to go to

642
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: go back to Golden State, but we understand that there

643
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: was some shit that went on at Golden State. So

644
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: that's something in the back of his mind. So this is,

645
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, to Matt Ishpia and Phoenix management, you guys

646
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: need to fix this during the season because what you

647
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: did is obviously more than enough for him to want

648
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: to bounce. So to that organization, if you appreciate Kevin

649
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: Durant and what he's done and what he can still do,

650
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys need to fix that shit. And then I

651
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: think the other point is to Bradley bial I think

652
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: that was just a and I like Bradley bial I

653
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: just think it was a horrible move. And I said

654
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: it when he came over. I thought it was a

655
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: horrible move to send him to Phoenix because all those

656
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: guys do the same thing, and he has this big

657
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: old crazy Washington contract that gives him power of attorney.

658
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: You always want the power, I mean, so I'm definitely

659
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: not mad at him just taking any goddamn deal. But

660
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I think it started back when they signed Bradley Beal

661
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: to bring him to Phoenix, because they could have got

662
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of other pieces that would have complimented your

663
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: two superstars that were already there. With football over the

664
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: NCAA basketball is heating up, some would say, and there's

665
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: some young prospects, young prospects that'll be you know, top

666
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: of the board in this upcoming draft. Kdie breakdown who

667
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: you think the top five men's college prospects are in

668
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: this year's draft.

669
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think it's a young boy draft, you

670
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

671
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 5: Like all the guys who I feel like are the

672
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: top five prospects are freshman's you know, and not to

673
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: you know, throw dirt on any of the seniors and

674
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: guys who've been putting in working college ball for a while.

675
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: But man, these young boys.

676
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: They got it.

677
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: They got the holistic package. I think you have to

678
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: start that off with.

679
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: Cooper flag right, you know, reclassifying coming in at seventeen

680
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: years old, putting in work, getting his body in condition.

681
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: He was, he was cramping early in the in the season.

682
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: He got an opportunity in the summertime to play against

683
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: the USA basketball team, showed up and showed out. And

684
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: I just think from from a time and standpoint and

685
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: from a fan based standpoint, Cooper's timing is impeccable, you.

686
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

687
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: We need that demographic, you know, to be engaged and

688
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: be able to see a piece of themselves.

689
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: Katie, Katie, what what what demographic is that we need.

690
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: We need to we need we need our we need

691
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: our fan base.

692
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

693
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: We need we need you know what I mean.

694
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 5: Like you know, like when Larry Bird and Magic was there,

695
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, the.

696
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: Game grew, you know, like we need you know, the.

697
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Fan base, Melanie.

698
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 5: We we need some white from the United States, of

699
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 5: the of America, of the America, you know what I mean,

700
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: because like this is our game, right, it's our game.

701
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: It's it's you know, a lot of the of the

702
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: white players come from international, so there's not that feel

703
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: that you can feel if you're up in the Northeast,

704
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: or if you're from the Midwest, or if you're from

705
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, certain regions of our country.

706
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: And so Cooper will allow a fan base to see

707
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: a piece of himself the same way King McCarg as,

708
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I think that'll and

709
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: and he's got it, He's got all the two. So

710
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: I think he's the biggest draft prospect we've seen in

711
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: quite some time, not only from a playing standpoint, but

712
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: also just from a growth of the game, you know

713
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: what I mean.

714
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: Here domestically, like Cooper will be very very good for

715
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: our game.

716
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: And he's got a motor, he's got a skill set,

717
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 5: he's got swagger, he's got confidence, he got dog and

718
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: I'm loving everything and I'm loving his growth and his

719
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: evolution as he progresses.

720
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Who else you got in that mix?

721
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, man, it's uh, it's so funny

722
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: because there's so many of our.

723
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Guys who played in the league who got sons coming

724
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: up crazy.

725
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: But like Dylan Harper, you know, I know he's been heard,

726
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: but man, he's a combination of like Jalen Brunson and

727
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: like Ramone Sessions as far as in pick and roll right,

728
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: because he's got a big body, he's a lefty, he's

729
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: got an incredible pace. I think he's somebody who has

730
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: a lot of upside. His game will translate very very

731
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: easily to the next level. And he plays on both

732
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: ends of the four. And he's got he's cut from

733
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: that pedigree, right, you know what I mean? O g

734
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: Ron Harper was a beast back in the days. He's

735
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: got a teammate over there who's extremely talented in Ace Bailey.

736
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: Ace has got it, man. He doesn't need a lot

737
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: of dribbles to get a shot off. He can make

738
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 5: tough shots. He's got to become more efficient right in

739
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: his game and play more with the motor. But man,

740
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: he's got a skill set at six nine to sixteen,

741
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: can shoot, can dribble, can pass. I think he's an

742
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: extremely talented player. There's this kid out of Baylor. He's

743
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: freaking nature VJ. Edgecombe. He's a freaking nature athletically kind

744
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: of like Scoop Henderson, Dwayne Wade, like cut from that

745
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: athletic cough had a really really good summer with the

746
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: Bahamian team internationally and has really emerged man in the

747
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: last two three weeks at Baylor, and so he's one

748
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: of those guys man that is super athletic, super quick,

749
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: got a good feel for the game. I think his

750
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: game will be better suited for the NBA, especially with

751
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: not being able to touch, with being able to get

752
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 5: out in transition, and not necessarily, you know, having to

753
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: play against all those four arms in college. I think

754
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: edgecomb Is will also be somebody you'll probably see in

755
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: the top five, top seven picks in the draft.

756
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: I man, at that.

757
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Jack Cooper Flag is the coldest white boy since what m.

758
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: He's the coldest white boys since until we see Larry

759
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: bird Son.

760
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: He ain't got a son. I don't think that kid's

761
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: his son. But yeah, when they say he plays like him.

762
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that motherfucker there. I've been watching them a three

763
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: months now. Man.

764
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: He's nice.

765
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's nice. There's a white boy that they said,

766
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: they say it's Larry sub but I don't think it is.

767
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it is either. But this motherfucker

768
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: is the truth.

769
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta check him out.

770
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: He's still this since LB. Huh. Hey, before we get

771
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: you guys out of here. Super Bowl just happened this

772
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: past weekend. Eagles beat the dog ship out of Kansas City. Man,

773
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: so it happens when Trump roots for your team, you

774
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: get cursed. But outside of the actual game the performance,

775
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: Kendrick's performance has been met with love, hate, uh, frustration,

776
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: admiration uh. And I feel like, personally, I feel like

777
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: this was one of those performances that we're going to

778
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: be dissecting for the next two to three weeks to

779
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: find out all the different meanings and and and and

780
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: reasoning behind. But what I will say is he came

781
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: out here and he made a statement for hip hop,

782
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: for the black culture during Black History Month, and really

783
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: kind of. I think Jermaine Dupriez said it best and

784
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people took what he

785
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: said the wrong way. He said he was glad that

786
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: people had an issue with it because we've all thrown

787
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: music like it was gumbo and it's supposed to be

788
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: Rap ain't supposed to be for everyone. That performance wasn't

789
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: for you, Jason Whitlocke. You're a white man stuck in

790
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: a black man's body. That's why I don't expect you

791
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: to be fucking with that, and that's why I expected

792
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: you the next day to coon like you cooned. But

793
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: outside of that, what did you guys think about Kendrick's performance?

794
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, for me, it was the dope shone

795
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 4: some of the dober shit I've ever seen.

796
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: Matt, I ain't we even lie. I enjoyed every bit

797
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: of it. Man.

798
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: You know what I mean to to some to have

799
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: somebody one of us, you know what I mean that

800
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: come from the backgrounds and the culture we come from,

801
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: to get on that and to and to not go

802
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: up there and just to make it about uh, cars,

803
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: clothes and money, but to have the biggest moment, uh

804
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: that he's ever had, and to make a statement and

805
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: speak for all of us. You know that that means

806
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: something to me, bro, because I've that you know what

807
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I put myself in a position for for

808
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 4: all our people. So for him to take his moment,

809
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: his biggest moment and to the choice of songs everything

810
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: the way he did it with Samuel Jackson with the

811
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: flag I had, I had to break it down, mat

812
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: to see a lot of stuff, even with the kid

813
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: man on the like, you know.

814
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff.

815
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: It's lot of stuff people saying that, you know, but

816
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: I think I think it was super dope, man. And

817
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: like like like a lot of people say, you don't

818
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: have to not like Drake or or to do mean

819
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: Drake to like this performance. This performance was dope. So

820
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 4: just just just learn how to appreciate Kendrick being the

821
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: boss right now hip hop. It's his time. He's doing

822
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: it the right way. He's doing it like nobody else

823
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: has ever done. And you gotta just you got to

824
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: just take your hat off of somebody's being great, bro,

825
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: because we don't see shit like this often, especially in

826
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: the rap game.

827
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Doc Man is He's amazing. He's an

828
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: artistic performer. And you know what I mean, Like his

829
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: show is just not him on the mic. It's constant movement.

830
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: It's constant symbolism that you have to dissect and dco.

831
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: It's total energy, it's voice command, you know what I mean.

832
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: It's it's the right fits. Sinsy came out there wearing

833
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: that thing owner. You know what I'm saying. You know,

834
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: all that's done, you know what I mean?

835
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Like it to me?

836
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: You know, it was entertaining, but it wasn't divisive in

837
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: my opinion, it's inclusive. Like a part of our American

838
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: history is the black experience, and you know when we

839
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: have voices and people who share that through symbolism, through song.

840
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: We've always used song and music to express what we

841
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: endure and what we feel and our experience in this culture. Right,

842
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: and to have the super Bowl, have him on that platform,

843
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 5: and for him to take it, you know, to so

844
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: many levels, right and bring so many different local cultures

845
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: from California because he was riding in his gn.

846
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: X, you know what I mean, to bring you know,

847
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 3: the red, White and Brew, to bring Uncle.

848
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 5: Him in there, right, you know, and you those parallels,

849
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: but then also to bring a part of hip hop

850
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: culture like I'm still gonna I'm gonna look at this

851
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: camera and I'm gonna still do this disc on shit, right,

852
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Because a part of hip

853
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: hop is competition. It's not always beef. It's competition. The

854
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: same way we grew up in competition, the same way

855
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: we competed against each other. Y'all had to match up

856
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: against each other. And y'all love each other, y'all give

857
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: money together, y'all go on vacation together. But guess what

858
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: in between those lines, y'all was gonna knuckle up by

859
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: his competition, right, And hip hop is about that. And

860
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: so I think he embodies that. It was impressive performance.

861
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: Me and my family we watched it. We showed out,

862
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: we did all the dances. And then he patty too,

863
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: like he got.

864
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: To he is Petty Serena coming out doing her thing.

865
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: I just thought it was a It was a very

866
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: cool concept, and I think he delivered, you know what

867
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 5: I mean. And for all those naysayers when the music

868
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 5: went down and you heard everybody say a like get involved.

869
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: With the whole world set that the people in the

870
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: building were feeling.

871
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Fucking with it absolutely. I mean from the PlayStation control

872
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: to the game over old crowd. I don't think we

873
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: talk enough about what Samuel L. Jackson meant to that performance,

874
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: because he was the He was the He was the

875
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote white opinion. Oh you you brought your homies

876
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: for the culture. That's one less life, you know what

877
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean? He you know, you guys are too ghetto.

878
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: He was all the bullshit that is talked towards our culture,

879
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: not just Kendrick, but towards our culture as a whole.

880
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: He was the one and it every time he says something,

881
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: Kendrick had of answer for us. I just thought, very well,

882
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: put together, very creative. If I'm not mistaken. One hundred

883
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: and thirty three and a half million people view that,

884
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: which would put it at the top, Which would put

885
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: it at the top. Man, So man, shout out to

886
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: the whole TDD family, Shout out to Kendrick, and again

887
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: and again to love what to love what Kendrick did.

888
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you hate Drake.

889
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: Exactly a Matt, But no, I want to say one

890
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: thing too. You know, it was the thing about this

891
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: whole thing to me, like it's a video. It's it's

892
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: a rapper name a Z A Z Cheek. I think

893
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: something like that. He on a song called Peekaboo. He

894
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: didn't make the super Bowl, but it's a video on

895
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 4: him and his family watching Kendrick sing part of his verse.

896
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: Bro And if you've seen the joy and him and

897
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: his family watching Kendricks.

898
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: But that that that made me feel good because that's

899
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: that's how your patn is supposed to put you on.

900
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We all know it was

901
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: a limited amount of people that Kidrick can have. But

902
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: if I can't get my pot, let me wrap his

903
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: verse while.

904
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think that was the

905
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: dope shit about the whole thing to me, But he.

906
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: Gave he showed respect to a lot of different things,

907
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: whether it be cities, people, culture. It was dope O KD.

908
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Man.

909
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, definitely looking.

910
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: Man, appreciating your week. Let's keep it up.

911
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you know what Jack NBA All Star twenty

912
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: twenty five, San Francisco, California. We'll be heading out there

913
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: in two days.

914
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Man.

915
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You know this is a place where you

916
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: know you and I really started our brotherhood and our

917
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: friendship back in the day. We have a great run.

918
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: And then in the mid two thousands, and you know,

919
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: now it's back out here in our company. That that's

920
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that sounds good to say. Our company is going out

921
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: there to set up a flag.

922
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: Man.

923
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about All Star coming up

924
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: this week?

925
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Always gonna be good to be back in the Bay Man.

926
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: So many memories, I think some uh, definitely some of

927
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: my best years playing basketball. Uh, some of the best

928
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: fans I got, some of I think the relationships that

929
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: I built while I was playing.

930
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those relationships I built out

931
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: there I still have today.

932
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: So I think Oakland, Oakland, San Francisco is a is

933
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: a special place in my heart. Is gonna be It's

934
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: gonna be good to bring our show back. I think

935
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 4: not only for us, but the city, the whole Bay

936
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: Area been asking us to come for so long. I'm

937
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: getting so many cars and texts, texts trying to get

938
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: to the show. How can I get tickets and all

939
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: this type of stuff.

940
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: Bruh. So it's gonna it's gonna good to be back

941
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: with family. Man. I think I think it's only right there.

942
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: We bring all the smoke back and playing our flag

943
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: there because that is one of our homes.

944
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Mm.

945
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, We're blessed to have the run TMC. So

946
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Tim Men and Chris with the

947
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: run TMC team and then also man a Rebelieve reunion

948
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: with some of our brothers. Man, I'm really looking forward

949
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: to that. So those are gonna be two live shows

950
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're doing a brunch on Sunday honoring Too

951
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Short and He forty with Larussell Cure rating. Are welcome

952
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: to All Star Live Show with Kevin Garnett. You know,

953
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett was our first live show at All Star.

954
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Was that All Star sixteen twenty twenty, twenty twenty, the

955
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: Pandemic All Star. So we're gonna catch up with him

956
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: with some special guests dropping through that show our welcome dinner. Man,

957
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: it's it to me again. And I think I've said this.

958
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean for us to be able to play out

959
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: there and me be from you know, our way from there,

960
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: but for us to go back there, man, damn here

961
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: twenty years later, almost twenty years later as a business

962
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: as a company. Man, I'm really proud of that and

963
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: obviously couldn't have done that without you, bro. So I

964
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you and I love you. I'm definitely looking forward

965
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: to having some fun out there.

966
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, me too.

967
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap for this week unplugged. We appreciate

968
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: you guys tuning in.

969
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: Have a good week.

970
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kendrick Man, even shout out Drake. He's

971
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: out there doing this thing right now in Australia doing

972
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: his thing, and memory to love one, you don't have

973
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: to hate the other. Make sure you guys catch us

974
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

975
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.