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Speaker 1: Fisher Jets podcast is presented by win Bet. Betting is

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Speaker 1: a team sport butt together win Bet. Eric Allen here

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Speaker 1: at one Jets Drive, joined by the man backer, Bart Scott.

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Speaker 1: Part's unknown. We don't know his whereabouts this Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: We do know it is raining still and for Jets fans,

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Speaker 1: they've been very upset over the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: So let's break this down overall thirty thousand foot view takeaway, Bart,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the Jets fifteen to ten

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Speaker 1: loss of the Patriots?

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Speaker 2: Not good enough? Not good enough on the offensive side.

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Speaker 2: Got to do a better job and establishing some type

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Speaker 2: of rhythm you know, you have to have You have

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Speaker 2: to decide what you are personnel and right now I

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Speaker 2: think everything's on the table. You have to consider maybe

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Speaker 2: mkole Harmon trying to figure out ways to get guys

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Speaker 2: the ball in space, how to protect I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think you go back and you have to start it over.

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Speaker 2: You have to devise something that what does Zach do well?

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Speaker 2: How can we establish some type of momentum? And on defenses?

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Speaker 2: You know, you learn their lessons and you feel like

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Speaker 2: you have to be perfect, but you shouldn't be. You

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Speaker 2: think I look at the big play just a rule

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Speaker 2: of thumb. As defenders, when you guys are comboing guys,

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Speaker 2: you always want to be on different levels because if

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Speaker 2: something happens and somebody gets behind you, if you're on

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Speaker 2: the same level, it's no recovery. And it was a

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Speaker 2: miscommunication between white Head and Sauce, and that was a

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Speaker 2: big explosive play to a player that shouldn't have much

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Speaker 2: production based on you know, his previous resume. And those

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Speaker 2: are things you have to learn like in those situations,

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Speaker 2: and this has to be something that everybody learns from.

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Speaker 2: Whenever we have you know, limbos or we call them

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Speaker 2: banjos or whatever you want to call it, you never

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Speaker 2: want to be on the same level flat because if

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Speaker 2: you guys mess up, nobody can help make up the mistake,

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Speaker 2: so they have to go back to the table. This

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Speaker 2: is a tough one, man, because you know the fourteen

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Speaker 2: in a row, how difficult that was to swallow. And

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know that you have better personnel than

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, but the results still come and

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Speaker 2: seem to fall short every time.

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Speaker 1: I know it's just three games in this season, but

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Speaker 1: if you are a defender, in that locker room and

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Speaker 1: you just gave up thirteen points. Yeah, the takeaways weren't there,

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots were still converting a decent amount on

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Speaker 1: third down, But how do you keep your hat off?

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Speaker 1: I was very impressed with CJ. Moseley yesterday the way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody's holding on to the rope and

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Speaker 2: everybody is standing in the boat, standing in the wheelbar,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. But you know, we all understand that

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Speaker 2: it's got to get better, right And what you don't

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Speaker 2: want is to happen what happened to this defense last year.

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Speaker 2: Their snaps get up, they started to wear down and

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Speaker 2: break down later in the season, and the defense that

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Speaker 2: guys get fatigued and because it's overexposure. You talk about

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Speaker 2: playing complimentary football, that means, you know, also being able

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Speaker 2: But they was able to do in that punt to

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Speaker 2: give the Jets opportunity to win that game. Was impressive

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Speaker 2: and He's a weapon, but you can't you know, really

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Speaker 2: the season can go, you know, by the wayside, very fast.

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Speaker 2: The schedule. We know what the schedule is coming up,

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Speaker 1: What was different about the drive in the second half

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Speaker 2: The Patriots was playing the odds. They were playing soft

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Speaker 2: just did a good job. Zach did a good job

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Speaker 1: How difficult job is this right now for Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 1: because you come in you think you're going to be

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Speaker 1: working with Aaron Rodgers. Of course that doesn't happen one

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Speaker 1: I have to imagine that what goes through your mind,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has to dig into his bag. And

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna feel sorry for you, just like nobody feel

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Speaker 2: will be consequences. That's just the nature of the business.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna feel sorry for you. You have good enough pieces

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Speaker 2: And that's the process, right, And that's that's why coaches.

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Speaker 2: welcome edition. They have to do more of that, you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, So everybody focuses on Zach's weaknesses. Can you

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Speaker 1: talk about Wilson's ranks, what you see here as far

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Speaker 2: Well, you look at you look at what the Patriots did.

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Speaker 2: They made sure that they didn't get past quarterback depth

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Speaker 2: They didn't give him those quick escape routes, and so

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Speaker 2: it'd be an easy dump over pass after everybody's run out,

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Speaker 2: You have to have a system where Zach can know that,

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Speaker 2: no matter what, you're always going to have a checkout,

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Speaker 2: would love to see Mikole Harmon get in the game

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Speaker 2: and use some of that speed to blow the top off.

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Speaker 2: I feel like teams are playing the Jets horizontally because

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, for as good as he is, he's not

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Speaker 2: you don't look at him like the Tyreek Hill. Right,

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Speaker 2: remember who McCole Harmon was brought in his league to replace.

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Speaker 2: He's brought in his league to replace Tyreek Hill, and

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Speaker 2: he had success playing over forty percent of the snaps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're gonna get to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's going to continue to get stronger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Rutger had only one or two snaps,

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Speaker 2: I thought, I thought the Jets offensive line was was

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Speaker 1: The mental game is so important in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: You're telling them, Hey, we're giving you an opportunity and

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Speaker 2: I absolutely do. The issue is that all the places

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Speaker 1: What about everything being magnified in New York. You played

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't. You can't. You can't embrace and welcome

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Speaker 2: Same thing, make you laugh, make you cry, and right

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Speaker 1: Hey. Some takes throughout the League. Let's focus on the division.

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Speaker 2: this year with what they were able to do last year.

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Speaker 2: And remember, these packages are growing. Everybody's kind of understanding

436
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: the concepts, and you know this year they have these

437
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: new wrinkles with the motion straight out to number one

438
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: and creating space, and they have so much speed out there.

439
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: And you know the fact that they got rid of

440
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Speaker 2: a guy like Mike Gaesicki that was playing for the Patriots,

441
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: so that they get a guy that can block better

442
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: at the tight end position because they want their offense

443
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: to go through their running backs but also through their receivers.

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Speaker 2: I thought, I think Mike McDaniels is doing an outstanding job.

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Speaker 2: I think he's early front runner for Coach of the

446
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Year with what he's doing. He's so smart and so

447
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: innovative when he comes to game planning and play and

448
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: play design. That I think there's somebody to be reckoned with.

449
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: But you know, everybody knows that if Tool gets hurts,

450
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: that's what everybody is afraid of. Because they were on

451
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: their way last year. As far as the offense, they

452
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Speaker 2: have a big matchup coming up, I think against the Bills,

453
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Speaker 2: and we'll get a greater assessment of who they are

454
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Speaker 2: because we know that the Broncos are are a mess

455
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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the Bills. I mean the Jets scored

457
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Speaker 1: that big win Week one, and Buffaloes kind of study

458
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Speaker 1: the ship against inferior opponents when you're talking about the

459
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Speaker 1: Raiders and the Washington Commanders. But that defense looks like

460
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Speaker 1: they're taking it up the level. So that match up

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Speaker 1: between Miami and Buffalo is going to be interesting in

462
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Speaker 1: Week four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Dolphins defense isn't great. I'm still missing

464
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Speaker 2: Ramsey and you know, you know that Josh Allen can

465
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: put up points and now I don't know if he

466
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: can put up points at that pace. But last year

467
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, really what the Dolphins did well was

468
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: run the ball against They run the ball against them

469
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Speaker 2: surprisingly and I think they can do that even to

470
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Speaker 2: another level. Now that you know, you look at Milano,

471
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: who's outstanding playing you know, outstanding football, but also when

472
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Speaker 2: you look at you know, no Edmonds there, I think

473
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Speaker 2: it leads a little bit to be desired for his

474
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Speaker 2: backup and his replacement mcdames. They can run that ball

475
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Speaker 2: with those home run hitters moster in the rookie. That's

476
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Speaker 2: a lot of speed. You saw they put up almost

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Speaker 2: two hundred yards rushing yesterday against the defense that traditionally

478
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Speaker 2: was a top tier defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they have more than three hundred yards rushing. Listen, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about Jets Chiefs briefly. Sunday night football.

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna come out with an inspired effort.

482
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Speaker 1: Everybody in the nation is going to be watching. Again. Defensively,

483
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Speaker 1: what's the game playing against Mahomes and Kelsey and.

484
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: Company getting off the fill on third down? And you

485
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: have to understand that you have to stand your lanes

486
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: because if you decide to rush and play cover one,

487
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: or or if you decide to rush for Mahomes this

488
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: year and last year beginning has hurt teams tremendously with

489
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Speaker 2: his legs he's not the most athletic guy, but you know,

490
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Speaker 2: four man rush allows two lanes for the quarterback to

491
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Speaker 2: run through, and he's been killing guys with that. He's

492
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Speaker 2: just taking whatever they give if you want to get

493
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: all this tremendous depth, and he sees that he's not

494
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Speaker 2: gonna hesitate the run because he knows that you're going

495
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Speaker 2: to get a double team on on Kelsey. Maybe you

496
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: do some unique things where you, you know, play sauce

497
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: and I know you don't like to move, but play

498
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: sauce on Kelsey because not because it's size, but because

499
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: it's length, it's ability to have a huge defense radius.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the best matchup that they can put out there

501
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: to really try and slow Kelsey down, especially when he

502
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Speaker 2: split away from the offensive line. Maybe you want to

503
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: match up and bring in another corner because I think

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00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: Valdell Scanley and these other guys aren't the same nearly

505
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: the threat that Kelsey is.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to see that saw us on Kelsey?

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I mean you think about size as

508
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: far as hype. He's probably one of the tallest defensive

509
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Speaker 2: backs that you guys have, if not the tallest. He's

510
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Speaker 2: definitely the best with his feet and he's great at

511
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Speaker 2: playing the ball. I remember last year, you know him

512
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Speaker 2: being a rookie playing Mark Andrews really well. So I think,

513
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: you know, Mark Andrews is a faster version of Kelsey.

514
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: Kelsey's just a little bit more crafty. So I think

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Speaker 2: that would be a good matchup other.

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Speaker 1: Side of the ball. How do you contain the game

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Speaker 1: rocker who is Chris Jones.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's only going to get stronger, getting more

519
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: and more reps. You just have to listen. This tough sledding.

520
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: You you challenge your offensive line, you gotta say, hey,

521
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: we got to run into this guy. Yeah. I think

522
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: the the the hard and soul is bowling. The middle

523
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Speaker 2: linebacker who's I've always loved coming out of Missouri. He

524
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Speaker 2: plays with his hair on fire. He kind of plays

525
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: like Quincy and he's been playing at a high level

526
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: man and that's been the biggest difference that they have

527
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: great linebacker play between him and Gay. They have a

528
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: lot of team speed. Specnola has done a good job

529
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna they're going to try and attack attack Zach,

530
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Speaker 2: and Zach has to be prepared. And this is one

531
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Speaker 2: of those things that if you don't come out there

532
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: on your a game. You may be embarrassed and you

533
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: know all your peers and everybody's watching, and then there's

534
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: really nowhere to hide, you know, because the entire nation

535
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: is going to come out because they're going to be

536
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Speaker 2: focused on your game.

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Speaker 1: What you say, attack Spag's gonna be sent on all

538
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Speaker 1: sorts of blitz packages at him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna dare him to find the open read.

540
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, you know what I mean? And

541
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: I know this would be personal game for m coole

542
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: Harmon because they decided to move on from him. And

543
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, if he's sitting there not involved in the packages,

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: I think you know, he could hurt morale a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's send on a positive no here bro

546
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Mostly and Quincy. How good of those two ben throughout

547
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: the first three games? And how much do you, as

548
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: a dude who played the position of enjoy watching them play.

549
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean they's played that they played at a high level.

550
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: I think Quincy has really took it up another notch.

551
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: I mean I can even argue those can argue that

552
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: maybe he's underpaid right with the level play that he's playing.

553
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: But he's playing at a level that's elite. He's seeing

554
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: the field well, and he's starting to try and find

555
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: that balance between playing reckless and playing out of control.

556
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I think me, I'm me

557
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: under control of reckless. He's finding that fine balance where

558
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: he's taking the shots. He's a physical presence for them.

559
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Speaker 2: I think he sets the tone and CJ. It's just

560
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: a general out there, you know, being able to control

561
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: all the troops and let them know the situation.

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00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't piss them off either. That Juju shot

563
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: seem to really get under his skin all over the place.

564
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you talk about your cheap shots,

565
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: you talk about sauces getting hitting the family jewels. I mean,

566
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: that's that's what makes things. That's what makes it hurt more.

567
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that you you let a

568
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: team like that off the hook where they had no

569
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 2: reason to beat you. They talked about not giving up

570
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: that big play, but having that type of chance. That's

571
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: what really gets underneath your skin.

572
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: But the rally cry this week's got to be hey, listen,

573
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: nobody expects you guys to win this game. Let it

574
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: all hang out here.

575
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it should be that every week It has

576
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: to be that, right because I think the sentiment that

577
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: the Jets are a playoff team has changed where they

578
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: went from the hated team to the team that people

579
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: have empathy and nobody wants to have people feel sorry

580
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: for you, you know what I mean. And you know you

581
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: got people out there, You've got you got teams that

582
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: are getting injured all over the place, and everybody's having

583
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: these same conversations that we have to step it up,

584
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's you know, the backfield with the

585
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: Ravens rather you talk about you know, Nick Chubb being gone,

586
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's it's this is football,

587
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: and every year you have a you have a string

588
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: of injuries that could either make or break your season.

589
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: It's about what you do after it, right Dallas is

590
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, having to figure out what they're doing with

591
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: their with theirselves as well as they they got an

592
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: adults in reality and realize that it's not easy when

593
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: you lose a major component, major part of your team

594
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: and how that changes things.

595
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Speaker 1: It was legg day for Bart Scott today. Don't piss

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Speaker 1: him off. Subscribe rate and review, also crush that like

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. We'll be talking to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Brother, look forward to it,