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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ. Bucky

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Speaker 2: back with you on a I think it's dry. Is

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Speaker 3: Buck?

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Speaker 2: It's been crazy out here, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I know like we're gonna sound like, uh, we're having

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Speaker 2: It was terrible, man, just like the river.

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Speaker 3: Goodness it was. Yeah, it was terrible. I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: It was bad. It just broke.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it just to see some sunshine. Jeez,

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'll tell you what I was. I've been

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's not Southern California's not equip for that. Man,

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Speaker 2: We're not equip for the Ring.

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Speaker 1: No, certainly not bill for So hopefully this is enough

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Speaker 2: No question. All right, So today we are going to

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Speaker 2: I've got five teams that I think will at least

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Speaker 2: as these guys are getting announced Hall of Famers, they're

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Speaker 2: So the names of the guys. We got Randy gradisch Er,

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Speaker 2: we've been around a lot of these guys, Buck, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, DJ, this is crazy because now you are talking

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Speaker 2: They were two of the more physical football players of

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Speaker 2: He was the best tight end in the league for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's shocking because they keep the classes so small

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Speaker 3: He's wearing number forty nine. So DJ, I want you

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Speaker 1: But it was just fascinating to watch an undrafted free agent,

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Speaker 3: So I just want to make sure we shouted him

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Speaker 2: I talked to a coach one time, a coordinator one time,

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting. On Freeena. Yeah, No, he was Goley.

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Speaker 2: after this, all right, Buck, I don't want episode to

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Speaker 2: I was looking at it, looking at the draft order,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying how they have their boards decked,

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Speaker 2: If we're going to assume, and I really do believe this,

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Speaker 2: said and done, and we'll see and you can make

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Speaker 2: a strong case it would be wise for all three

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Speaker 2: there's still you know, they have options. You look at

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Speaker 2: And then you look at the New England Patriots. To me, man,

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Speaker 2: be the most likely, the most you know, the most desperate,

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Speaker 2: So I'll give you the teams, and I'll give you

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Speaker 2: I don't get the sense that he's that they feel

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Speaker 2: seventy nine. Obviously, you're talking about making these trades, you're

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Speaker 2: they have just a pick and every round, no extra picks.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at those teams, the Giants at six,

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Speaker 3: Well, look, man, I think Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: To throw somebody in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that that one makes a lot

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Speaker 2: Now we think of fields with Chicago. No, No, I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: I can. I can probably get fields for pick thirty four.

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Speaker 2: So I get picked thirty four, and now I can auction.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get fields for pick thirty four. Now

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Speaker 2: test sweat this year, So they would go let's say

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Speaker 2: they would go kleb bit one. They could take his

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Speaker 2: high school teammate in Olufashanu, the tackle from Penn State

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Speaker 2: and nine and they come back get like with pick

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Speaker 2: thirty four, they get from New England, they could get

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Speaker 2: a guy like Troy Frank you know, Mitchell whatever receiver

438
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Speaker 2: that you like here, it's there at pick thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Now you've you've you've kind of really you're cooking with

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Speaker 2: some gas there. But I think New England, I think

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Speaker 2: that's an interesting, interesting scenario.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think for some of these teams. So we'll

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Speaker 1: use the Patriots as the example. Uh, for some of

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Speaker 1: these themes. You have to look at this class in

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Speaker 1: comparison to Justin Fields and what else may be available

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Speaker 1: on the market. Right, So I would think Russell Wilson

447
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Speaker 1: would be in the conversation all those other things, like

448
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Speaker 1: you have to kind of pick and choose.

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Speaker 3: But we'll use Justin Fields as the example.

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Speaker 1: What we're saying is it's not just how do we

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Speaker 1: rank those guys, because let's just do this Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: in this draft class, where would he slot? So we

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Speaker 1: talked about Kaylor, Williams, Drake, made jayde and Daniels. Then

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Speaker 1: is Justin's field's versus wherever the break is O Nicks,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, JJ McCarthy. That's how the Justin Fields conversation

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Speaker 1: plays out. He's included in this draft class because you're

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Speaker 1: trying to look.

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute, if I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Get a quarterback, would I'd rather have JJ McCarthy in

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Speaker 1: the twenties or Justin Fields in the second round. That's

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Speaker 1: how it will go. And so the scenario that you

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Speaker 1: bring up with the Patriots does make sense. If they

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Speaker 1: like Justin Fields, if they can do the deal early

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Speaker 1: get him in he's on campus, we give up the

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Speaker 1: second round pick. We're open for business at three. Whoever

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Speaker 1: wants to come and get the third quarterback, Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Drake May whatever, what are you willing to give us,

468
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Speaker 1: because now we're going to reset our team with all

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Speaker 1: the draft capital that you give us in exchange for

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Speaker 1: the third best quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 2: And to me, it makes sense that if the team

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Speaker 2: that gets Fields, because the price, you know, from a

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Speaker 2: money standpoint, is going to jump way above what you

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Speaker 2: would be paying you know, quarterback four, five or six

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Speaker 2: in this draft. So to me, the team that gets Fields,

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Speaker 2: it makes the most sense for a team that's in

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Speaker 2: position to then trade down with their first round pick

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Speaker 2: to then say, okay, well, i might be spending more

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Speaker 2: on the quarterback than I would if I drafted one,

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Speaker 2: but I've got all these picks, which is going to

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Speaker 2: give me four five cheap starters to help offset the

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Speaker 2: money that I would pay Fields versus the money that

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Speaker 2: I would pay the draftable team. Which is why the

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Speaker 2: team that makes the most sense right there is New England.

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Speaker 2: New England that makes the most sense because they can

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Speaker 2: put him in and then they can have all these

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Speaker 2: other picks to try and put cheap, cheap, you know,

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Speaker 2: valuable players around him. That to me is what would

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Speaker 2: make a lot of sense there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because you're going

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Speaker 1: to have to do that because his his thing is real,

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Speaker 1: and he'll probably have to do something similar like the

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Speaker 1: team that acquires him. We have to consider doing something

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Speaker 1: like the Packers did with Jordan Love in terms of

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Speaker 1: kind of like a little stock gap deal to kind

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Speaker 1: of freak out kind of a bridge what it's going

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Speaker 1: to be so you can be able to move forward.

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Speaker 1: But dj it is going to be fascinated and so

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Speaker 1: that's why it's like taking a three or four dimensional

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Speaker 1: view at the quarterback positions. Not just as static as

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Speaker 1: here are the quarterbacks in the twenty twenty four class,

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Speaker 1: let's rank them from one to five? Is oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: we got to put justin fields in this conversation, and

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Speaker 1: some we got to put some of these other guys

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Speaker 1: in the conversation because the other guy, and the reason

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Speaker 1: why I would mention Russell Wilson is because the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos are going to have to eat up most of

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Speaker 1: that contract. So your conversation, even as Russell being an

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Speaker 1: older player, well, if we're getting Russell on a minimum

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Speaker 1: or a slightly above minimum deal, are we willing to

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Speaker 1: take that or we can go with a younger quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Like all these things, all these discussions have to kind

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Speaker 1: of enter the meeting room.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other part to me that's interesting, and I

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Speaker 2: have you know, teams have done this homework. I haven't

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Speaker 2: done it obviously, yet there's not and things quarterbacks emerge

517
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Speaker 2: every year. There is no buzz or excitement on next

518
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Speaker 2: year's quarterbacks. So in other words, if you are the team,

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Speaker 2: if we're talking about teams trying to if you're the

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Speaker 2: team that trades off of one of these top three

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Speaker 2: guys this year, you better have another quarterback. Like that's

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Speaker 2: why the Fields thing makes so much sense, because okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll trade out, we'll trade off, but then I still

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Speaker 2: have my quarterback here. I don't think it makes sense

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Speaker 2: like if you're Washington to say, okay, we're gonna trade

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Speaker 2: pick two and we're gonna go down to you know,

527
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Speaker 2: eight or eleven or twelve, and then we're gonna build

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Speaker 2: up our roster. Then we'll get our quarterback next year.

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Speaker 2: Like nobody seems to be excited about your options next year,

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Speaker 2: and you don't want to punt on getting one of

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Speaker 2: these guys this year if we don't know when that

532
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Speaker 2: next group is coming and if you're going to be

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Speaker 2: in a position to get those guys. So that's why,

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Speaker 2: like I when you go through these scenarios, like the

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Speaker 2: one team in the top three that could trade out

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Speaker 2: New England is the one that makes the most sense.

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Speaker 2: And it would be because they could somehow get Fields,

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Speaker 2: you know, with the with the second pick, with their

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Speaker 2: second their second round pick.

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Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, no, it's it's interesting because I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get like a little peek ahead with the

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Speaker 1: numbers in names and so just likely. So the guys

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about when yours should do or say Andrews, man, you.

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Speaker 2: Got Penn State, Your Penn State kid, you got Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Hugh Aller, Carson Beck, Yeah right now.

546
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Speaker 2: And I haven't done a work up on them, So

547
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be I don't want to No, no, no,

548
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Speaker 2: it's their reputation. But I'm just saying their teams haven't

549
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Speaker 2: done this homework and are not super excited comparing this.

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Speaker 2: They are much higher on this crop of quarterbacks versus

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Speaker 2: the crop that's coming next year. That's what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that and that will impact the decisions.

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Speaker 1: And so when we talk about front offices being in lockstep,

554
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Speaker 1: as the general manager being able to tap into the

555
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Speaker 1: knowledge and insight of the college scouting director to be

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Speaker 1: able to say, hey, man, what does twenty twenty five

557
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Speaker 1: look like?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's gonna be an answer there.

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Speaker 3: There's not a surefire one.

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Speaker 1: We're coming into this year that Kayler Williams was going

561
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Speaker 1: to be the bill the ball.

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Speaker 3: He was deprised.

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Speaker 1: We also knew that Drake May was going to be

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Speaker 1: in the conversation as one of those crown jewels.

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Speaker 3: Jane Daniels emerged as the third guy. The buzz is not.

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Speaker 1: The same when it comes to twenty twenty five, which

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Speaker 1: will impact the way that teams look at the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four class.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Look, everyone that may take shots at bo Nick's and

571
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and those things, you got to compare those

572
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Speaker 1: guys to what the next class looks.

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Speaker 2: Like, no doubt, buck. I mean that's why you know,

574
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Speaker 2: as a personnel department, you've got to be doing your

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Speaker 2: homework not only on what's in front of you in

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Speaker 2: the free agent class, in this draft class, but you've

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Speaker 2: got to be looking ahead of what's coming down the road,

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Speaker 2: and I think that informs your decision. So it's going

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Speaker 2: to be fascinating. I think there are no shortage of

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Speaker 2: teams that would be interested in trying to go up

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Speaker 2: and get one of these guys. It's just about whether

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Speaker 2: you can find a dance partner. And to me, the

583
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Speaker 2: Patriots the one that makes the most sense. But again,

584
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Speaker 2: we'll have months and months to jump into this. Here,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the combine. Here, we'll get some more information.

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Speaker 2: Free agency will inform what's the direction that some of

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Speaker 2: these teams are going as well. All right, let's say

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Speaker 2: quick break. Let's jump back in after this break, and

589
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Speaker 2: we'll get you your super Bowl preview.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the MCS Game of the Week, presented

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Speaker 1: by Draft King Sportsbook. This week it's the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Body nine Ers versus the Chiefs. This spread is minus

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Speaker 1: to favor the Niners. The over under is forty seven

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Speaker 1: and a half DJ. This is one of more compelling

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Speaker 1: matchups that will get I.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is this is a tough one, man.

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Speaker 1: This is a tough one to the handicap is a

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Speaker 1: tough one to break down because you talk about a

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Speaker 1: team in the forty nine is that have been like, look,

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Speaker 1: the best team arguably outside of the Baltimore Ravens the

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Speaker 1: entire season. And then we have a Chiefs team that

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Speaker 1: has been struggling offensively, but the defense has been lights out.

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Speaker 2: Does this feel weird? And we'll get into all the

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Speaker 2: positions here, but does this feel weird?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: I don't feel it doesn't feel like either one of

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00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: these teams are sprinting. Like normally you get into this

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Speaker 2: game and you're like, whoa, they are on a run? Man,

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Speaker 2: they look good and this team comes in hot, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think either one of these teams is really

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Speaker 2: clicking on all cylinders. Kind of a weird that's what

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Speaker 2: kind of makes this a weird super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it the weird super Bowl, I would say.

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Speaker 1: Of the two though, the King City Chiefs are definitely

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Speaker 1: clicking more than the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, they've been lights out.

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Speaker 1: I think they're holding the appoint it's to only thirteen

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Speaker 1: and a half points per game in the postseason. And

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Speaker 1: then offensively, they has done a great job of not

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Speaker 1: turning the ball over.

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Speaker 3: They've played keep away, they haven't turned it over.

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Speaker 1: They've been efficient and effective playing from in front, and

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Speaker 1: that's been enough for them to kind of make their

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Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl. On the other end of

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers offensively some slow starts. Defensively, they

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Speaker 1: can't stop the run. They've fallen behind. The effort hasn't

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Speaker 1: been up the par but when you look at the talent,

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Speaker 1: they've been able to get it done just on the talent.

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Speaker 1: So if you think about the talent, with better effort,

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Speaker 1: effort and execution should result in better play. It's just

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Speaker 1: hard to bet against the Kan City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Let's go, let's go

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00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: position by position and then we'll just go who has

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00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: the edge, and then we'll make our selections on this game.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure if you've been watching TV or listen to

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Speaker 2: any football related content, you might even be super bowled out.

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Speaker 2: So we're not going to go a long time on this.

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00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: But let's go position by position. Let's start with the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It seems like we're pretty obvious at which direction you

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Speaker 2: go there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean Mahomes, It's always gonna be hard

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00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: to bet against. Two time MVP, two times Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: He gets it done in the clutch. His record is

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00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: second to none when it comes to his postseason success.

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Speaker 1: He's a special player because he's a rare combination of

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Speaker 1: that gun slinger who has learned and evolved into being

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Speaker 1: a manager when he needs to do it. But I

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Speaker 1: think we need to give brock Purty some love. And

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Speaker 1: I think what has happened, you know, the dependentalan swing

650
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: so far in each direction when it comes to brock

651
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Purty right there, people that are maybe trying to give

652
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: him too much credit for the nine of success there

653
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: are people that are trying to take.

654
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Away any of the contributions that he's made.

655
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: And what I will say is this, once the draft

656
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: is done, the draft is nothing more than pole position

657
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: in terms of how you enter the league. I think

658
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: people need to wipe away rock Purity, being mister irrelevant,

659
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: being the seventh round pick, and really just great him

660
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: for what he's been.

661
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: If you look at the numbers and you.

662
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: Watch him play, Brock Purdy plays like a top five,

663
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback in this league. It's not all like

664
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: the physical dimensions and those things, but in this offense,

665
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: he plays like a top five player. He's good enough

666
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers to win this game. He's

667
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: good enough for the forty nine ers to run away

668
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: with this game if he's on if he's on point,

669
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: if he's in a rhythm, and he's dealing.

670
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: I think the challenge for brock Predy in.

671
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: This game would be if they jammed in the middle of

672
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Speaker 1: the field and they forced him to consistently make throws

673
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: outside the numbers, and Brock pretty deal and make.

674
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: Dime after dime outside of the numbers.

675
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: He hasn't had an issue today, But this is where

676
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: in these high games. These a you're facing off against

677
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: QB one in the league. If he breaks out into

678
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: a shootout, does he have enough stuff to knock off

679
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: the guy into.

680
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay corral Bill, And I think on Brock to wrap

681
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: that one up. I think he's got to have some

682
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: confidence coming off for these two comebacks. And I think

683
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan putting his faith in him shows you that

684
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: he's confident in him as well. So I give Brock

685
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: all the credit in the world. On the other side

686
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: of Mahome real quick, Buck, these all time debates, which

687
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: if Mahomes wins this game, the all time debates are

688
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: going to crank up. I feel like it's going to

689
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: be fascinating because I don't know if we've had this

690
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: since and you know, if you, I don't even want

691
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: to say the name, but it's a basketball player that

692
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: that maybe went to your school. But the when you

693
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: look at the debates, we've always talked about the debate

694
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: between the guys with the accomplishments and then the guys

695
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: with the ability, like it goes in any era, like

696
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: if you think Backley was like, well, Dan, you can

697
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: tell me that Joe Montenna is better than Dan Marino,

698
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: Dan Marino. Look at all the ability ye have, but

699
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Joe Montena has all the accomplishments. Mahomes has a chance

700
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: to marry him, has a chance to say I am

701
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: the most talented guy and I'm stacking up all the accomplishments.

702
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: Like that's the end of the argument, man.

703
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't be the end of the argument.

704
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I think the best comparison you talked about the basketball debates,

705
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: I think it's more of the golf debate Tiger Woods

706
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: and Jack Nicholas yep, because at the time, prior to

707
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Tiger's injuries, he was closing fast on the Golden bearra

708
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: and it was the marriage of Look, man, this is

709
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: the most talented golferd that we've seen, and the hardware

710
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: matches the dominants that we thought that we would project

711
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: based on how we entered the arena for Pat Mahomes,

712
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: it would be that three super Bowls early in his career,

713
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: the level of dominance that they've had over the last

714
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: five years. Projecting that out in the many iterations of

715
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: the team as it could unfold with him at quarterback, yeah,

716
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: you begin to you begin to think, like, I mean,

717
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: he might be the only guy who has a reasonable

718
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: chance at knocking off Tom Brady as.

719
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 2: To go to the position, no question, All right, running

720
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: game Pacheco's been has been rolling. But I mean, I

721
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go San Francisco on that one. How

722
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: about you?

723
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh No, I'm gonna go with San Francisco, even though

724
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: the Niners have had a tough time stopping the run

725
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: and distribute some vulnerability that the Chiefs can exploit. Christian

726
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is exactly what you wanted running back in this

727
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: game in terms of like he's a runner receiver, he

728
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: can do it a bunch of different ways.

729
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: DJ when you go look at the numbers, right and.

730
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: It's Scrimmageyard's leader Christian McCaffrey, rushing leader, Christian McCaffrey tied

731
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: for the most total touchdowns.

732
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: He's all of that.

733
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: And at a time when we were talking about the

734
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: running back has to be an offensive weapon as opposed

735
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: to just a running back, Christian McCaffrey is a perfect example,

736
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and if he's able to do it, it has shed

737
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: light on Hey, you can take a running back, but

738
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: you're running back better check off a lot of boxes

739
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: and your team better be well.

740
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: Positioned to utilize them when it's time.

741
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: No, dounb't. Uh yeah, I'm gonna go San Francisco. There,

742
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: offensive line, I'm having it as a push. I just

743
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't think to be honest with you, I don't

744
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: think either offensive line is great. I don't think that.

745
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, look, you're missing some pieces. Joe Toney not

746
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: more than likely not playing is a big deal. I

747
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: don't think the tackles are great for Kansas City. I

748
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: think the sum is greater than the parts. They play

749
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: well together. Trent Williams a Hall of Famer at left tackle,

750
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: but the rest of that offensive line, to me, there's

751
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: a lot of average players up there. So I just

752
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: said as a push.

753
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I can see that because I think it is that

754
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: because the blue chip player of all them, we talked

755
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: about the blue chipper.

756
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: The blue chipper is Trent Williams in a major way.

757
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: Good players in kan City.

758
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: You talk about Tray Smith's Green Hundrefrey Go Touney, like

759
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: those are good players, not quite on Trent Williams level.

760
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is a push because the tackles.

761
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Are vulnerable for the Kan City Chiefs Donovan Smith and

762
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: Jawan Taylor, and there's not a notable player on the

763
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers outside of Trent Williams, and

764
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: so I can say, yeah, it's even as a push.

765
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Pass catchers, this is a maybe the most heavily advantaged

766
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: spot here. To me, even with Kelsey we throw him

767
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: into the mix, I still think the depth and the

768
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: talent San Francisco has I think that I don't think

769
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: that's very close.

770
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's close because Brandon now Yuk quietly,

771
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: he's just the quietest thing.

772
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 3: Do have thirteen hundred yards DJ? He has these.

773
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: He has the third most big plays by wide receiver

774
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: this year. He has twenty eight receptions of twenty yards

775
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: of more Tyreek Hill and CD Lamp. We talk about

776
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel all the time and the freaks Brandon Ayuk

777
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: and so the passing game that the forty nine ers

778
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: have with Ayuk, Samuel and Kittle gives them an advantage

779
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: over the Kansaity Chiefs.

780
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Yep, we go over to the defensive side of the ball.

781
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: Defensive line. I mean, I love Chris Jones and Carl

782
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: Offtics has done some nice things. They got some good

783
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: players there. But to me, it's over it's just a

784
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: overwhelming depth and talent that they have in San Francisco.

785
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the depth and talent is there. You got to

786
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: get them to play hard. They haven't played hard. They

787
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: haven't played with the same energy and effort that you

788
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: are accustomed to seeing from the Niners team. But from

789
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: top to bottom they had I mean, they have dudes

790
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you know each about Bosa and Armstead and even young

791
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: hard Grave Hardgrave. They haven't and so the scales are

792
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: tipped in the niners favor, even though they haven't played

793
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: up to the standard that you would expect to see

794
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: from a team that talented.

795
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: San Francisco's linebackers are the best in the league. I

796
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: love Nick Bolton, I love Drew Trankqule. I don't know

797
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: if Willy Gate is going to play in this game.

798
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean that the Kansas City is really good. But

799
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: to me, I can't go away from Warner in Greenlaw.

800
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: No. I mean, I mean those guys that we talked about,

801
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, we talked about the Baltimore Ravens

802
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: and the San Francisco forty nine ers or teams in

803
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: the championship game, because they have like the best.

804
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: Combo of second level defenders that you can find. Doesn't change.

805
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Green Law and Fred Warner are outstanding playmaker sideline, the

806
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: sideline ministers. They get this one in.

807
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: This debate secondary. I'm gonna go case C on that

808
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: one where you leaning.

809
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: No, I'm with Casey.

810
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Snead is a legitimate number one player on the

811
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: back end. They've done a really good job. Trent McDuffie

812
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: has been as advertised as a first round pick. Justin

813
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Reid is the one that is even better than I

814
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: thought when they signed him. I was like, man, you know,

815
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he is, but he's terrific.

816
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Man. He's been outstanding. He can thump, he can play

817
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field.

818
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: He does a lot of different things for them. That's

819
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: the advantage. The weakness of the Niners will be this secondary.

820
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: But would the King City Chiefs be good enough to

821
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: be able to attack.

822
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: It special teams? I'll go Casey again there. Butker versus

823
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: Moody to me, that's that's a no contest.

824
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Bucker.

825
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: And also the other thing that you'll talk about Kansas

826
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: City being able to come up with big time returns

827
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: in key moments.

828
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Going all the way back to the last.

829
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when they were able to get a big returns.

830
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: Tony and the AFC Championship Game of yeargo.

831
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: They were able to do it like they have a

832
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: knack of being able to pull off big things in

833
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the kicking face advantage goes to the King City Chiefs coaches.

834
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Indy on that one.

835
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Andy's done it for so long. It's funny.

836
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: Like listening to the pressers all week. Andy just talked

837
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: about the experience of being in this game and when

838
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: you get to this game, you can't change it up.

839
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: You can't switch it up. You've got to trust what

840
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: you've done to this point and you got to do it.

841
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: I think for Kle Kyle.

842
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Shanahan and is with a little more pressure on him

843
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: just because of the last two Super Bowls, one as

844
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: a offensive coordinator, the other as a head coach.

845
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: He had ten point leads in the fourth quarter, didn't

846
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: get it.

847
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Done, had a ten point lead last year in the

848
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, didn't close it out. So you take

849
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: that factor a can Kyle Shanahan close it out? Then

850
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you go when you look at his record in the

851
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, win trailing. They only have one win out

852
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: of thirty two games when behind.

853
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: Man, that's a lot.

854
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: So now you're telling me you question whether I can close,

855
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and you question whether I can.

856
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: Come back DJ, I don't care how strong you are.

857
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: That noise Georch is in and so because of that,

858
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: I just worry about him being a little distracted by

859
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: trying to prove himself as opposed to doing it where

860
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: Andy's just coming in. All you gotta do is win

861
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: the game. And Andy has proven that he will be

862
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: willing to switch styles to win the game. He's proven

863
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: it this postseason. That's a huge advantage in the playoffs,

864
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: just that experience. He knows how to get it done.

865
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: So if you're scoring at home, that's four for Kansas City,

866
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Speaker 2: that's four for San Francisco, and that's really push.

867
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: It was even push.

868
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Speaker 1: It seemed like he was going in the Niners action like,

869
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: oh man, it's just so much, so much.

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Speaker 2: It's because k C. We gave k C the secondary,

871
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: the special teams, and the coaches to go along with

872
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback. So here's my thing. If this is I

873
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: ended up picking Kansas City twenty four to twenty one,

874
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: I think something like that. But if we're going to

875
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: say that, it's actually pretty even. These teams are pretty even.

876
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: And then you tell me I get the quarterback and

877
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: the coach, it always goes to that, I'll go with

878
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

879
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: It always goes to that.

880
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Like no matter what, no matter what we say, if

881
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: we talk about being true to what we said, uh

882
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: makes a championship teams we talk about three things. Head coach, quarterback,

883
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: pass rush two to one in Kansas City's favorite.

884
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

885
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: That's that's how we break down two to one in

886
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: their favor. But when you have the head coach and

887
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback, it's hard to bet against that.

888
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: And you can go against one game.

889
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that they if you're going

890
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: to get the Chiefs, I almost thought the AFC teams

891
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: had to do it. I thought Buffalo had a chance

892
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: to do it. I thought Baltimore had a chance to

893
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: do it, couldn't get it done. And so yeah, I

894
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: do I think. You know, I think the Chiefs win

895
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: this game. But take heart, because I've picked the Chiefs

896
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: to lose the last two rounds and they've won, so

897
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: now I'm picking them to win. So that should give

898
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: forty nine er fans a lot of hope that they

899
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: can figure out a way to get this thing done.

900
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: Man, hey, man, are you on this? Are you on

901
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: an eight hour show on Sunday? Are you on game? Oh?

902
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: Thank god, I'm not. I get a date. I've been

903
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: doing that all year, but I don't have to do that.

904
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: But I'm with you on on our game day preview. Yeah.

905
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you're doing. I'm doing halftime.

906
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: Are you get to stick around and do the halftime thing?

907
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 3: No, I'll be on the fiel with Usher, like yeah.

908
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: No, No, Why would you want to wash Usher when

909
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: you can flip over and watch me and Red handle

910
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: the halftime highlights on the network. Huh, come on over,

911
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: come hang with out one over?

912
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

913
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Usher will be seeing confessions and you can see

914
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: me talking about Kyle us Check's conversion on third and four.

915
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: I love it fighting. All right, We've got uh, we've

916
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: got a little business to take care of on the

917
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: way out or here? Oh buck, what do we Oh?

918
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,920
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Speaker 3: There.

926
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Speaker 2: We had to do a little business there at the end.

927
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: That was a That was a fun episode.

928
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Man.

929
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: We covered a lot of different ground again as we

930
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: go forward, we will recap the Super Bowl and then

931
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: it is full speed ahead to the off season, to

932
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: the draft and free agency, the combine all that good stuff.

933
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: We have a cool thing. I haven't even showed you

934
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: this yet, but I've had Jack working on this project

935
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: and we are going to we are going to dig

936
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: into the teams. We do so much player stuff. We're

937
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: going to do more on the teams as well this year.

938
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked about that championship formula where

939
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: you need to have you know, three playmakers, the two

940
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: pass rushers all. We are going to take every team

941
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: and we're going to run them through that formula to

942
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: see not only do they have those positions filled, but

943
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: then we're going to categorize them in terms of like

944
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 2: the age the future value there and whether they should

945
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: be in the market for you know what area and

946
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: those critical factors that we feel like build a championship team.

947
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. That should be fun. Looking forward

948
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: to doing that project.

949
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun again. Jackson on he's on it.

950
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: He's working hard on that. So we'll have that come

951
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: in your way shortly. Okay, hope you guys have enjoyed

952
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: this one. We'll be back Monday and we will recap

953
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and have all that information for you

954
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: and we'll start jumping into even more draft discussion right

955
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: here on.

956
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: Move the sticks