1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A to 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: b a q a. What you said, the b a 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: q a not Manday, but the b a q eight 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: with tifin a, the b a q a with Bernard A. 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: We're feeling around, were like, how we're gonna do this is. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Gonna be okay. We have a guest in the Berna 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: and not. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: She's got this new amazing book called Money Out Loud. 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: If you didn't listen to the prior episode, which you 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: want to, because it's amazing. Bernad is a new author, 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: but she's not new to the game. She's ruse of 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: the game. Her book is amazing and awesome. It came 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: out about a month and a half ago. It's available everywhere. 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: But I said, Bernard, come to the stew with us 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: today and answer some one helped me to answer a 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: financial question. And then two, Berna low Key high key 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: is one of my mentees. And so she's gonna ask 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: me a business question, which I don't know what she's 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna ask, and so we'll answer that in the second half. 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: So let's get start. 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Bernard, I'm acting like I didn't 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: introduce you to the people. But that was the last, 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, the last. Let me introduce Burner. She's not 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: just some you know, She's not just some girl off 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the street. Okay, anyway I am. She's an award winning producer, speaker, 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: podcast host, and rich auntie in training and financial hype women, 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: which is her made up way of saying. She creates 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: financial education media all over the Internet. Born and raised 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: in the Bay and a prowd and a proud Okay, 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: I don't know why because I'm like Filipina. I don't 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: know why. I'm like, I know, but you know it 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: because the app has thrown me off. Anyway, Filipina America. 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: It's perfect. It's perfect. 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Hey, daughter of immigrants, she taught herself how to pay 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: off over fifty thousand dollars of debt and then did 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: what any millennial would do yelled about it on the Internet. 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Bernard's work has been featured on platforms like Forbes, New 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: York Times, and BuzzFeed. She received a Pollutus Award for 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Most Entertaining Financial Content Creator. The Pollutice Awards are like 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: the Ammys of the Oscars of the financial education space. 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Big deal, and she did it not one year, but 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: two years in a row and was named abs. She 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: was named the Global pinoy Idol. What year was that 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: was that recently? 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: This was I want to say twenty twenty A little bit, 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: no matter. 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: But you can find bernerd online at hayberner on all 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the platforms, in heyburner dot com or curled up with 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: her nieces watching. 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: The office the office scene. 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Now, Oh, so Berna's in the still and we're going 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: to take a question and Berna's gonna help me answer it, 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: and then Berna's going to ask her own business question. 54 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Few questions for you. I need a little change. At 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: fifty three? Am I too old to buy a home? 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: Too old to change careers? The new career would be 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: in LPN, which is a type of nurse. I believe, girl, 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: don't give me the line. She also says that it's 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: being said that the US dollar is losing value? What 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: does that even mean to us? Should I even try 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: to buy a home anymore? Should people leave the US? 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Sounds like prices or skyrocketing even more? This is not flacking. 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, girl, getting nervous. Just in My blood 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: pressure is going up. 65 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Bleed, bleed. I just thought of something else. 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, mL said I'm exploring housing options and condos, 67 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: then mobile homes starts to show up. I've seen some 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: beautiful ones. Do you know if they earn equity? Is 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: that a waste of money? Do I even consider it? 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: M L has like this like ten questions. 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: Here, it's EML is spiraling, EMIL is spiraling up down 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: around spiring. 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: So let's help perus O Berner, what would you say? 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Just like initial reaction to ML's fifty one questions. 75 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: Fifty one thousand questions exactly, I'm like, we ask twenty 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: one question? Is that a fifty cent Yeah, I'm like, 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: and this is also what I would have said to 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: fifty cent at the beginning of that song breathe, hold up. 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Let's like a collective breath in and out, because I 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: feel like when someone has this many questions, what they 81 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: really have is one question, and like this question, all 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: these little questions stem from the top question, and my mind, 83 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: the top question is like I feel insecure financially? 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: What do I do? 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: And I'm that annoying person that's always like when you 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: have a question, I have seven back to try to 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: like get all the way to the bottom of it. 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: But to me, it sounds like mL is at a 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: place where she's like, I I'm panicking. I want to 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: make options to change my financial situation. And the thing 91 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: that my brain latched onto first is am I too 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: old too? Because it sounds like I need a life 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: change at fifty three? That's the question. I need a 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: life change at fifty three. Now where do I go? 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: Because now mL is like do I change my career? 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: Do I buy a mobile home? Do I leave the country? 97 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: Like do I start learning about the economy? Like I 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: think the life change question needs to be dealt with first, 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: and so my brain is chewing on what's the first 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: step if if it's just there, I just need a 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: life change at fifty three. It sounds like the rest 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: of these questions have to do with not so much 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: that mL is like, oh no, I need to like 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: I absolutely need to earn more money, or like I'm 105 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: covered in debt. 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: What do I do? 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: It's like they're looking at a lot of options to 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: just like bring a financial change. So that's where my 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: brain is at first. 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: I'm like, let's start there. 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: Where do we go? 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: I love that? 113 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: And you're right, I think that mL to Bernard's point, 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: and I get it. We've all been here when like 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: one thing leads to another thing leads to another thing, 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and it just feels so overwhelming. You know, what I 117 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: read in here is uncertainty based in fear, and certainly 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: that's not a judgment because it does feel like scary times. Yes, 119 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, we just came on the tail end of 120 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic, a mini recession, a potential looming recession. It's 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: been very up and down. But I'll say this emil 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: into anyone listening who might be feeling like everything's going 123 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: to hell and back. That the economy is cyclical, Yes, 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: meaning every ten to twelve years or so we hit 125 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: a recession without fail, and about every I don't even 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: know longer than that there's a depression, which is two 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: consecutive years of recession, and meaning that it is normal 128 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: for economies to be up and money is flowing to 129 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: be down and money is tight and something in between. 130 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: So there are things that are beyond your You have 131 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: not done anything. Just by nature of living, you are 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: going to live through ups, downs and in between. 133 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: That's just how it goes. 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: And so you know that you know that where we 135 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: said like where we are right now, they're always saying 136 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the dollar is down, the dollar is up, and we 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: will see it again in another twenty years, and another 138 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty years after that, another twenty year, you know, And 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be so afraid of the super specifics 140 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: of now other than take knowledge, Oh, this is part 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: of the normal cycle of the economy. And if you 142 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: want to ease yourself, you can literally say to yourself, 143 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: let me actually, maybe I'll google a YouTube video about 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: the cycles of an economy so I can understand. Ah, 145 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: it's almost like your kid is crying, you know, like 146 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: like you have a newborn and they're crying, you know, 147 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: at like two am, and you can focus that in 148 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: the moment they're crying at two am, or just know, 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: like connestly, my kid cries every morning at two am 150 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: because they're a newborn. This is part of the life 151 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: cycle of like what it looks like to raise a kid. 152 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: It's not that something is wrong. Certainly is it nerve 153 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: wracking because you know who loves crying at two am, 154 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: But understanding it's a natural part of growth of babies 155 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: that you know they say to be up back, tell yeah, 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: that's what So let's start. There is to like acknowledge 157 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: that what you're feeling is normal, but to acknowledge that 158 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: it is part of a larger cycle that we have 159 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: been through before and we will be through. 160 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: Again, Yes, one hundred percent. 161 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's hard not to panic because every 162 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: time you turn on the TV, you go on social media, 163 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: there is new reason to think that we are legitimately 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: in the apocalypse, like the world is. And I feel 165 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: that same tension in this message from mL all around 166 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: me of just like it feels like everyday things are 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: getting worse or things are so bad, and even just 168 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: hearing this from youtip and like pulling my head out 169 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: of the two am crying baby and being like we've 170 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: said these things before, especially in terms of the economy. 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Of course, things are happening in the economy that are 172 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: different from the last recession, but recessions are It's literally 173 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: part of the life cycle of our economy. So I'm like, oh, yeah, 174 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: I think I got caught up a little bit in 175 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: ML's panic, and I'm like, she's. 176 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: Right, what do we do? I'm waiting, I gotta go. 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: I was I'm one of many people who just in 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: the last few months contemplated, like do. 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: I need to go do I need to get the 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: heck up out of here? 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: But to take that breath like you said, like we 182 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: were talking about, and go like this is normal. This 183 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: is cyclical because when you make decisions from that place 184 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: of panic, that's when people mess up their investments. That's 185 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: when people like rip money out of their fore or 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: one K. That's when people ignore things kind of building 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: block things like having an emergency savings, what does your 188 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: retirement fund look like? What's your high interest debt look like? Like, 189 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: let's take care of our basics. People ignore that and 190 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: go like I'm moving a Portugal. 191 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: Literally all the financial people girls are who to Portugal? 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: Bye? What? How are you starting a commune? 193 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: Like I didn't get the invitation, but you said something 194 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: that is that. 195 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be so helpful for m now, 196 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: which is when things get rough. 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: Yes, you should get down to the basics. 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: And my budget in do I have savings? 200 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 201 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Am I maintaining good credit? Am I managing my debt 202 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: in a responsible way? 203 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: Am I? 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Do I have an income that I'm earning and I'm 205 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: pretty confident that I can continue to earn that Like 206 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: these those are the core fundamentals. So when things get 207 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: really rough, I ask myself, let me review my fundamentals. 208 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: My budget could be a little tighter. M okay, my savings, 209 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: you know what, let me see if I can, if 210 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I could save a little bit more. The scores looking 211 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: good now currently I don't have any credit card debt. 212 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: That's good, you see. 213 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: And so like getting down to the fundamentals and then too, 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: like once you can allay some of those fears, especially 215 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: if you have your foundation strong, I want instead of 216 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: you making decisions from a place of running away from yes, 217 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, I want you for EML and anyone listening 218 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: to ask my ask yourself, what can you run towards? Yes, 219 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, like something joyful like mL. Do you want 220 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to be an LPN If that sounds awesome to you, 221 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: run toward that. You know, do you want to be 222 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: a homeowner because it's something that you're excited about, Then 223 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: run toward that versus I want to do that because no, no, no, 224 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Not what do you 225 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: feel like you're forced to do? 226 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: You know? 227 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: And so that's just that's the space we want you 228 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: to make financial choices from. 229 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: Like like I did. 230 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: This earlier, like with in our previous episode with Berna, 231 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: where I ask kind of like, where do you see 232 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: yourself in two to five ten years? 233 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: You know, I want you to. I call it dreamscaping. 234 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Sit out on the couch, look out the window, play 235 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: your favorite music, and ask yourself, Oh, man, if I 236 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: could just come up with my ideal life, it would 237 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: look like this and this and this, and then you 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: could start to ask yourself what do I need to 239 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: do financially to support that life? 240 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: Because that's from a place of. 241 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Joy and excitement, you know, an adventure versus like, you know, 242 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: a place of fear and shame and uncertainty. And so 243 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: that's what's so drop down to the fundamentals budgeting, savings, debt, credit, earning. 244 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: Look at all your fundamentals. Are they strong? If they're not? 245 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Money Out Loud is a great book to help you 246 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: to start to get you You see what I did there? 247 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: I did get good with money too? Also good with money? 248 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: Can we play? 249 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: All? 250 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: Right? 251 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: So you get that book to start to bring that, 252 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, to get yourself to this financial, financially fundamentally 253 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: sound place and then start making you know, start dreamscaping 254 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: and then aligning your financial choices with those. 255 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: Dreams exactly exactly we were saying this before and reviewing 256 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: the question of that, it's like, it's it's never too 257 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: late to make these kinds of life changes. But I 258 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: love what you're getting at, and I think it gets 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: at that. What is the umbrella question, which is ML's 260 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: first question, I need a life change at fifty three? 261 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Why what is the life change? Right? Like, I feel 262 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: like that's the kind of questions I would ask myself 263 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: if I were mL and I was sitting on my 264 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: couch dreamscaping. Do I need a life change because I 265 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: need excitement because I feel insecure financially? Like, what is 266 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: what is the problem that we're trying to solve? Because 267 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: buying a condo and running away might not solve it 268 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: when originally the question, like the solve is just I 269 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: just need to shake things up, or like like you said, 270 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: I would be interested in a nursing career, but it's 271 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: hard to make those distinctions when we're in a place 272 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: of panic and scarcity. So I'm like, I want to 273 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: curl up on the couch next to mL too and 274 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: be like, what's what feels expansive? And I think what 275 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: I like what you were getting at earlier too, is like, yes, 276 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: you're fifty three, let's not make decisions from a place 277 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: of like, oh god, time is running out. You're fifty three, 278 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: You've got decades ahead of you. If we look at 279 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: these joyfully like you like make it feel I'm just 280 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: like I've got all this time? What do I want 281 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: to do with this time? Like that sort of like juicy. 282 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: That's why I love called dreamscaping, where literally it's like landscaping, 283 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: so you're like designing what your external life looks like. 284 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: But with dreams that's why I call it dream I'm 285 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: literally like, ooh, I. 286 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: Could see myself on the. 287 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Beach like this, like literally like I get excited and 288 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm like you know, and so like that is as 289 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: an awesome place to make decisions from. So am I 290 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: hopefully that was helpful. I forgot to say b a 291 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: QA listeners. If you have a question, ask it. You 292 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: can go to brannibisionpodcast dot com. Email us at Brandambision 293 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Podcasts at gmail dot com. We are Brown Ambition Podcasts 294 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: on ig You can send us a message there. You 295 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: could tweet us at the BA podcast and yeah, but 296 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: remember we are not your financial advisor. Well, I'm not 297 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: your mom, mom, I'm not your doctor, your turney sue, 298 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: somebody else. Take what we say with the smallest of 299 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: the smallest of grains of salt. Okay, we're gonna take 300 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: a break, and then we're gonna come back with a 301 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: business question, because, as you know, Berna is one of 302 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: my mentees, and so I don't know what question she 303 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: has for me, but I'm gonna try to lead her 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: down the path as best as possible. 305 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: This see back in a moment, and we're back and 306 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: black and brown and baqaing. We have Berner. 307 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Anna's in the stew, the new author of Money Out Loud, 308 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: an awesome book to help you wich Auntie and your 309 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: little niece's and Nessy Nephie poos as they navigate their 310 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: financial journey, but from the place of fond and lightheartedness, 311 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: but also financial education. 312 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: So Berna is in the stew And y'all know that 313 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: I mentor especially women of color and just business. I've 314 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: been in business for fifteen years. You know. 315 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: We've been able to scrape together over forty million dollars 316 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: in revenue, so much of which we poured right. 317 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: Back into the people that we serve. 318 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm proud that I get to have a 319 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: business that you know, makes income, but most importantly makes impact. 320 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: And so I get a lot of young women and 321 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: young as in like young in business asking me questions. 322 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: And so I have some like people who I get 323 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: to chat with, like Berna, but I just get so 324 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: many requests I was like, I can't take them all on, 325 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: and so I started this Patreon, which is this platform 326 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: where I can mentor literally there's like I think I 327 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: have like thirteen hundred mentor mentees there now, and if 328 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: you'd like to join us, it's ten bucks a month 329 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: my mentor Tiffany dot com. But the thing is, Baqa 330 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: comes out on Friday tomorrow, I believe tomorrow morning. The 331 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: price doubles from ten bucks a month to twenty. But 332 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: if you lock yourself in at ten bucks a month, 333 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: you will always pay ten bucks. 334 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: So the twenty is gonna be for the new people. 335 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: So if you're interested you want to dip your vaper 336 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: toe in, now is the perfect time because my mentor, 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Tiffany dot Com will be doubling tomorrow. 338 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: So all right, Burton, your. 339 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: Question is what okay? 340 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: So to lay out some context, Tiffany has taken the 341 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: last like year to give me the keys to the kingdom. 342 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, you're writing a book. You wanted to 343 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: be impactful. Here's literally everything that I did. And if 344 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: you know Tiffany, you're one of her mentees, whether you're 345 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: like in person mentee or you're on her patron you 346 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: know that like Tiffany's all about giving the keys to 347 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: the kingdom. There is like no gatekeeping ever. And so 348 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: I first want to just say that, like my book 349 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: launch is the way that it is and was the 350 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: way that it was, like largely because of Tiffany's guidance 351 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: as to like, here's what to do strategically, but also 352 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: here's how to enjoy it in a way that is 353 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: fulfilling with your community. And so it's been legit, like 354 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: no joke, the best two months of my entire life 355 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: up until now, Like it's just been so incredible. And 356 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: my question basically the umbrella over it is like now what, 357 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: who know what? 358 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 359 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: And we talked a little bit about like the now 360 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: what emotionally on our the main Brand Ambition episode. But 361 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of in terms of leverage, you know, like 362 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: now I'm proud of the book. I'm proud of the 363 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: impact it's made, the reviews and feedback that's coming in. 364 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's exactly how I wanted to hit. And 365 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: this summer I'm taking, you know, some time off to 366 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: sort of recalibrate and reset myself on my nervous system 367 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: and stuff. In the fall, I'm doing a school tour, 368 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: like university tour. I'm touring again so that I could 369 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: try to get this book in front of as many 370 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: young b ipoc as possible, and of course, like have 371 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: the universities buy things and have donors by things I 372 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: want to I would like to know from your perspective, 373 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: besides sort of touring and selling the book itself. 374 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, what do I do next? 375 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, like, how do I leverage the fact that 376 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: I've I feel so successful with this book. How do 377 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: I leverage it into what I want to do next? 378 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: And what I want to do next. I want to 379 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: do more on camera stuff. I want to do more 380 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: video stuff, and I also want to have more of 381 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: what we've been talking about, which is more just sort 382 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: of like not so much passive income, but things that 383 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: don't also don't require me to be on camera and 384 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: in front all the time, like how do I leverage 385 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: now the success of this book into the business goals 386 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: that I want, but also like aligned with the softer 387 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: life of not not sprinting anymore, not doing as much now. 388 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: I love this question, and honestly it's a question that 389 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: it shows maturity in business, you know, because typically I 390 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: can tell where you are, but the kind of questions 391 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: you ask so typically you know, very very very newbies 392 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: and business was there's nothing wrong with it. It's really 393 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: like how do I not make enough money to survive? 394 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: You know? 395 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: Like how do I just make money in general? You know? 396 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: So I know, like, okay, this is a new person 397 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: in business. I got to get you to your first 398 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: five hundred to one thousand bucks a month, yes, you know, 399 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and then it's like, okay, how do I make enough 400 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: money to actually like to like be okay? And so 401 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: the fact that you're asking this question shows like, oh, 402 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, you're a little teen in business. 403 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: I grow I'm living, which I love. 404 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: And so what I would say first and foremost is 405 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: that I want you to ask yourself like I mean, 406 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: you've got you give me a little bit of clarity, 407 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: but I want more clarity on how in general do 408 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: you want life to look so like the next I 409 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: would say, like five years, So are you okay with 410 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: being on screen and being face forward for the next 411 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: five years or you're like, hmm, girl, I got about 412 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: another year of me and I kind of want to 413 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: be behind the scenes because that's critically important with like 414 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: how you want to payvot. So what would you say 415 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: to that, like in the next five years, how much 416 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: do you want to still be like on camera? 417 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: Great question, I think honestly, I have the kind of 418 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: personality where I think I'll probably want to be on 419 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: camera until God takes me out, Like really truly, I 420 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: love being on camera, but I want that to be 421 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: like a joyful choice I get to make, as opposed 422 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: to here I am again, like five years from now, 423 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: if I have to be on camera every single week, 424 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: then I'm going to be that's too much for me. 425 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: Dollar exactly. 426 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: I don't want to be dancing for a dollar in 427 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: five years, Like guys, don't feel like I'm doing my 428 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: dancing for a dollar for sure, But in five years 429 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: I'd like it to be like selective speaking gigs or 430 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: one or two weeks of filming something that then gets distributed, 431 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: you know, throughout a season or streamed. I'd like to 432 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: be selective about the camera stuff and and be more 433 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: in five years, definitely be more behind the scenes. And 434 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: by behind the scenes, I mean like napping and traveling. 435 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, I love that. 436 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: This is kind of the transition that I've been making 437 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: with the budget said, because I was like, I don't 438 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: want to dance for a dollar anymore. So what I 439 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: would say is this, and this is what I've done 440 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: over a budget staid with the team is you are 441 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: in which is really smart. 442 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: You are in pre pivot mode. 443 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: So most people wait until they're forced to pivot and 444 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: then they turn and then but you're doing it, like 445 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: now earlier, from a place of panic, place of rush, 446 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: to a place of uncertainty. So really, really, really really 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: smart business owners learn to see the thing before the thing, 448 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: before the thing, getting pivoting and turning the boat way 449 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: before the iceberg is visible. Yes, so by the time 450 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: it gets here, you're like, oh, I'm so glad I 451 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: pre pivoted, because you know, we're basically almost already turned. 452 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: So hey you saw you got me you down? 453 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, take another Titanic out, not 454 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: me exactly right. And so what we're doing at Budgetista 455 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: now is I had told my team this years ago. 456 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: I knew. 457 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: I was like saying, like, you, you know, I've got 458 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: a big personality, love to be face forwarded, but I 459 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't gonna last forever. So I said, we 460 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: have to start to identify ways that we can make 461 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: money that don't require my face y. That's what I said, exactly, 462 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, And so you have to start to lay 463 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: out for yourself. So one of the reasons why, like 464 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I am I like Patreon when I do like my 465 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: my my mentee like right, So that I mean that 466 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: was kind of like just like a test, but it 467 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: turns out. 468 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: It makes really good money. 469 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: You know. 470 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: You figure, I've got like thirteen hundred people ten bucks 471 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: a month. You know, it was kind of accidental. It 472 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, let me pour back into these women 473 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: that keep asking me questions. But now it's a good chunk, 474 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: like you know, of like some money that we make. 475 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and I go live once a month. 476 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: But then the mentees also help each other. I enjoy 477 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: having dinner with them and doing other in person things, 478 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: and so I say that to say that, like, that 479 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: was one of my okay, pivoting moments where I get 480 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: to do the thing I like, which is I'm like, 481 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: I grew up with four sisters, so I'm like a 482 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: girl's girl, you know, so I get to do it. 483 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh wow, this actually makes some really 484 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: great money coming in. So that's part of my pre 485 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: pivot le. I always had kind of like a blog, 486 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: but I had not really leaned into it, you know. 487 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: But what I love about a blog is that, like 488 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: old school brands still very much want to be featured 489 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: on your blog, so they'll pay for that, you know. 490 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Like there are products that I really enjoy and that 491 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I used to I remember there was this one bank 492 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: account that I love so much and I sent like 493 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: three thousand people opened up bank accounts with them. And 494 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know they had an affiliate program for twenty 495 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: five bucks per person do thed. I was like, we 496 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: what I know? And this was very early on in 497 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: my career. I wept because I had no money. It 498 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: was like fifty thousand dollars. 499 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Like wait, whatzy no work for you too? 500 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, so then so now I started to lean 501 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: into like affiliate things, like so I have a list 502 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: of maybe like four or five things that I already love, 503 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: I use, and I like and I trust, And then 504 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I reached out to the companies that they didn't have 505 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: it already kind of like on their site, like do 506 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: you have a program because I use, like and trust 507 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: you guys, and I would love to share you with 508 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: my audience, but girl, a kickback would. 509 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: Be cute, you know, yes, And so you're. 510 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Always honest obviously when you share like these things like hey, 511 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: you know this is a tool or resource that I use, 512 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: but know that I also get paid every time someone 513 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: signs up. 514 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: So that's just the law. But also too, it's just 515 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: good practice. 516 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: So affiliates were one of the ways something else too 517 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: that we started to I still do some spokesperson work, 518 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: speaking work, but that was like seventy percent of our 519 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: income last year, and so this year those far, it's 520 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: only been twenty five percent, which is great. 521 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Wow, that's where I'm trying to that's my five year goal. Yeah, 522 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: I want to cycle that. 523 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: So it's not been easy because you know, it's like 524 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: we've I might not make as much money this year 525 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: as I did last year because of that pivot, you know, 526 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: so I'm always keeping. 527 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: An eye on that prize. 528 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: So one of the things that we did is before 529 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: we made that pivot, knowing that we might drop an income, 530 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: we have six months of money saved of operating expenses, 531 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: so that's payroll and all of our bills. So in 532 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: case something gets tight, like this month we didn't make 533 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: enough to cover our bills, but we have six months, 534 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, because next month I have some things coming 535 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: in that's gonna be enough to cover bills for five months, 536 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: so we'll be able to put the money back in 537 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: our you know, our emergency savings and then be good 538 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: for the next like five months. But so do you 539 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: see that even in the pivot, it might look like 540 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: a drop down, So do you have the money set 541 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: aside for that? 542 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: So prepare for that, you know. As well. I'm trying 543 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: to think some other things for doing a budgetista. 544 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: So it's affiliate, it's the blog, it's Patreon, and then 545 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: we're coming up with like some courses, you know, because 546 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: like courses that people can purchase and by so we're 547 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: looking at that, but even other things I'm looking to think, like, 548 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: you know, are there some sort of partnerships where their 549 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: overhead is not so high, Like, for example, maybe I 550 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: can put out a white paper. 551 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: This is something I was considering, Like I. 552 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: Have two million, specifically black women that where you know, 553 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: it's like why do black women navigate? They do with 554 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: their finances, and I have the ability to like have 555 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: people like ten thousand people in two days do a 556 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: survey and then put out a white paper to say, 557 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: here's why black women navigate. Y'all know, child, look at 558 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: that commercial, it's whack. Here's why black women do the 559 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: way because I know this is what they've shared with 560 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: me why they do what they do. So that's potentially 561 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: something too where people, you know, brands might say you 562 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to do so ethical 563 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: obviously you're not sharing people specific information, but in general, 564 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: like basically I can be a trend spotterer, you know, 565 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: because I have my ear to the streets and say, hey, honestly, 566 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: like bank, they don't mess with you because we don't 567 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: like the way you talk to us, Yes, and so 568 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: like here's the language they're wanting, here's the interest rate 569 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: that they're wanting. Is that something that you can provide? 570 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And so that's something that 571 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 3: that's been swirling around in my head. 572 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: And so I just say, for you, you want to 573 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: get really clear about first things First, how do you 574 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: want life to look? Because if you start externally, you 575 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: end externally. You want to start internally to say, I 576 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: want my life to look like this. I want to 577 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: be to do no more than two lives a month. 578 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just making it up, you know. 579 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: I want to not have like I only have a 580 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: team meeting every two weeks. This is me And when 581 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: I do sometimes it's a walking team meeting where I'm 582 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: walking in the park. That was something that I really 583 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: wanted to be able to go outside every single day 584 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: as long as weather permitting. You know, I wanted a 585 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: team that did not need to be babysad. So I 586 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: have to be very intentional of hiring and letting go. 587 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: I had to let go more than half my team 588 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: of people who did not need to be babysad. Then 589 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: they're fully autonomous. They had the agency. And so you see, 590 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: like if you're wanting a thing in business or otherwise, 591 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: it's really the foundational component that's going to allow you 592 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: to have it. And maintain it. And so do you 593 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: have the savings, do you have the team? Are you 594 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: clear about how you even wanted to look? And then 595 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: you put it into practice. So I get to live 596 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: the very thing that was in my head, which is 597 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: like all this time available to me, a team that 598 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: doesn't need me to babysit them, you know, like people 599 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: work joyfully. I make good money, although maybe less than 600 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: last year because we're making that pivot. But the pivot 601 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: does not require me to be on a plane every week. 602 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: And so I'm living the thing that I intended then 603 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: build a foundation for and then work through. And so 604 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: first it starts with your intention, Berna, like I want 605 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: this to be the thing. 606 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: What foundation do I need? 607 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: And then you have to take it to the streets 608 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: and practice it and then adjust as you go, knowing 609 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: that like it might look like I make a little 610 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: less temporarily, but that's part of the pivot, and the 611 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: sooner you can get to pivoting, because eventually what happens 612 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: is you will burn out and then you're to force 613 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: yourself to pivot and it's not going to be clean 614 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: and easy. So if you can pre pivot now on 615 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: your own, you know, from your you know, from a 616 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: place of like no panic, of like calmness. Then by 617 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: the time the you know, maybe that you're a little 618 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: bit over it, you're like, oh, thank goodness, I put 619 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: that stuff in place because it's only twenty five percent 620 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: of my income or five percent of whatever comes from 621 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: me being face forward. Thank goodness, I put that stuff 622 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: in place five years ago. 623 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, so exactly. 624 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: That's this is exactly what I needed to hear and 625 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: like kind of the blueprint that I needed because I 626 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: understand now that I feel like a strike while the 627 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: iron tot It's kind of a little bit of a 628 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: panic at the moment because my book just came out right, 629 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: and there's like lots of like there's more media than 630 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: usual about like what I'm doing, and then there's more 631 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: eyes than usual on like what my work is. So 632 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: I feel a little bit of panic of of that pivot. 633 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: How do I how do I pivot these eyeballs and 634 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: this attention now and also in the fall, when there's 635 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: we're going to do another media cycle again and touring again. 636 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: What am I going to point people towards that will 637 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: unlock like the tools of this pivot, which is you know, 638 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: do I point people towards a membership a Patreon? Do 639 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: I point people towards courses that I made? Because and 640 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: I need to sketch this out, Like you said, what 641 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: is my five year vision of? Like what do I 642 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: want my life to feel like in five years? I 643 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: want that, like I have a team that I trust 644 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: that I'm I don't. I honestly, I've seen this through practice. 645 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm an amazing people manager. I want 646 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: a team that I can trust with a person who 647 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: manages the team too, a person that I can trust 648 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: to manage the team that I want to be able 649 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: to be selective about being on camera a few times 650 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: a quarter or producing fun things like a few times 651 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: per quarter and not every single day. I'm getting on 652 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Instagram and being like, you know, pills or whatever I want. 653 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: And like I was saying before, I want enough space 654 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: to check out for the summer so I could be 655 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: that summer camp on tee and whatever passive tools are 656 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: in place are like working for me through the summer 657 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: so that when I get back in the fall, I'm 658 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: not like, oh. 659 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: My, we got to run around and make money again. 660 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: This is so great, Like now I want to I 661 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: know exactly what I want to chew on the summer 662 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: of basically yourself. 663 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: Like what is the return on investment? 664 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: So the questions I ask my team every time you 665 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: meet is the same, I say, you know, like first 666 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I ask them, how's your weekend? Like this is I 667 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: just had this meeting this morning, so it's super fresh. 668 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: It's my CFO, my content manager and director, my like 669 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: logistics manager and like project manager. 670 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: So we get on a call, you know. 671 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: I always ask them how because and you say you're 672 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: not a good people manager, and I certainly was not 673 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: at first, but you grow to that, like you want 674 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: that's a skill set that's really important to develop, you know, yeah, 675 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: because you have intrinsic kindness, like that's the first start, 676 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: which I'm much better now. And so anyway, so I 677 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: always ask me, know, how's your weekend, how was yesterday? 678 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: Whatever? 679 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, just to connect and share how mine was. 680 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: Then I asked basic questions, what are you working on? 681 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: So cause I want everyone to hear what are you 682 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: working on? What is working you know? What challenges might 683 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: you be having? And most recently I started asking is 684 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: it worth it to continue? 685 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: Is the juice worth the squeeze. 686 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh, because I found out that we'd be working on 687 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: something and the person working on it would be like, 688 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: this is not even worth it. But they're like Tiffany said, 689 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: we doing it, so we're doing it. And I'm like, no, girl, 690 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not emotionally tied to that thing. If 691 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: it's not worth it, we could. I tell them all 692 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the time, I don't care. If we're at ninety nine 693 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: percent completion and you're like, girl, this lift there's no 694 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: real return on impact or income. 695 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Then we can stop. Today. We are the queens of 696 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: the castle. I'm always empowering them, like you literally get 697 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: to decide. I'm here to just say. 698 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and so what are you working on, what's working, 699 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: what's like, what's not working? 700 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: And is the juice worth the squeeze? Those are the. 701 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: Four questions that you know, I asked them, and in 702 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: doing so, what it allows us to do, especially when 703 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: you're in a pre pivot, that is the juice worth 704 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the squeeze? 705 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: So important? That return on investment, you know, Like I'll 706 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: give you an example. 707 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I was hosting these things called wealth walks, which were great, 708 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: and I I said something offhanded and I said, oh, 709 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: you know these walthwalks. I love doing that because such 710 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: a lightlift, you know, because I just got to show 711 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: up at the park. We walk and then we sit 712 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: on the blanket we talked. The first one we did 713 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: was like fifty. 714 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: Women showed up. 715 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Oh and I was saying it to 716 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: like one of my team members. I just was talking 717 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: to her on the phone, just checking on her. How 718 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: the kids da da da, And I said, oh, yeah, 719 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: the Wealthwalk was so fun. I can't wait to the 720 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: next one. She was laughing. I said why. She was like, oh, 721 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: it's always funny when you say something is a lightlift. 722 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, wait what. 723 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: She's like, Oh girl, it's not like live right here 724 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: like the team has to do. 725 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: I was like, wait what. She was like, oh yeah, 726 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: she was like, wait, you didn't realize. I'm like, she said, 727 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: it's not a lightlift. My heart dropped, and I'm like, 728 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my already stressed team. 729 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: I'm stressing them out because I want to walk in 730 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: the pork with the girls. 731 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: You're like, let's do this three times a week. 732 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, those Wealth walk I 733 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: mean it's free, there's no return, there's no, I mean, sure, 734 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: is there impact for the fifty women that are there, Yes, 735 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: but there's also no income. And I was like, oh 736 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: my goodness. And so I went back to the team. 737 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I was like, is this That's when I added is 738 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: the juice worth the squeeze? 739 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: Right? 740 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: And they were like it's not. 741 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: I was like, then we stop now we have one 742 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: schedule and we're like we have this one more schedule 743 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: which we're going to do, but we stop now. But 744 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: do you see how important it is to like you 745 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: have to check in and depending like we if we 746 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: were making hell of money and like that is like, 747 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: like we're super good, like the budget says in transition. 748 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: So if it was all this money that was just flowing. 749 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: In automatically, then we have time for a little wealth 750 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: walk because we're not busy. 751 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: Let's just do it. It's cute. No. 752 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Right now, we are in pre pivot mode and so 753 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: everything we do has to make impact and income. We 754 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: cannot wait on both. We have to do both, you know, 755 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: we can't wait like, oh, the impact is not for 756 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: two years. No, we need to make impact now. All 757 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: the income you know we'll see in six months. No, 758 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: we need to make income now. And so just keep 759 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: that in mind as you're you know, making this pre pivot, 760 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: like does this thing make sense? Is it making the 761 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: impact I want from audience? And isn't making the income 762 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: that I'm needing, you know, in order to have my 763 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: goals be met? And then once you know, you might 764 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: think to yourself, oh, when I'm in the summer, Like 765 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: I challenge you to think that, like do I have 766 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: to make money during the summer or do I make 767 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: enough money before. 768 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: The summer to see me through? You see what I mean? 769 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: Like if I'm like, oh, okay, because when I was 770 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: a school teacher, that's what happened, Like we worked ten months, 771 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: but I didn't get paid in the summertime. They used 772 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: to literally pull money out of our paychecks. And if 773 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: we can get money, so that money. So it's like, 774 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, it would be like I don't know, you know, 775 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: you take an extra whatever twenty percent and in the 776 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: summer I got that money from the school district to 777 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: see me through the summertime. 778 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: You see what I mean? 779 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: So you can do that for yourself as well, because 780 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: sometimes we'll get tied up and like this is what 781 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: it has to look like. It's like, no, what are 782 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: you actually really saying, You're really saying, I just want 783 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: to have enough money to see me through. And so 784 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: and I'll end on this that this is something I 785 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: was talking. So I have the CEO of my online 786 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: school of the Literature Academy, but I also mentor Tammer too, 787 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: because I was a CEO there for like the last 788 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: six years. And so we were talking this morning, and 789 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: we're pivoting there as well, and like I had an 790 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: aha moment of it. It's something new that we're going 791 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: to be doing that's going to really transform our business. 792 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: And I told her, I said I, and I tell 793 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: you listening to and you Burner, then what you will 794 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: find is that the better the question you ask, the 795 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: better the answer. So what that means is that in 796 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, like when you're first trying to 797 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: like suss out like what change should I make? What 798 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: should I be doing next? That question what should I 799 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: be doing next? Is like it's a good base question, 800 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: but the answer is going to be only as vague 801 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: as a question is. 802 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: So it's going to be like huh. 803 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: So as you ask more questions, your questions are going 804 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: to be clear and clear and by nature of there 805 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: being a question, the answer is born simultaneously. 806 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 3: There are twins. 807 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and so if you can say it's 808 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: so you want to get to the point where you're 809 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: not asking like it's a good place to say what 810 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: should I be doing next? But you want to get 811 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: to the point you're literally asking what's what's one plus one? 812 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: Because then the answer is too very. 813 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Definitive answer that's out there for you, and so for you, 814 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: like you know, start working your mind into more, like, 815 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: you know, in general, how do I want life to go? 816 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: How do I specifically want business to go on this way? 817 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: How could I make this amount of money? 818 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: You see? 819 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the question then becomes how 820 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: do I make reoccurring income in a way that that 821 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: I can make enough money? Then all of a sudden, 822 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's an answer to that because that 823 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: question is so specific, and so the better the question, 824 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: the better the answer. And there's nothing wrong with having 825 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: the bag question. That's how you start. Yes, But I 826 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: told Tam today, I said, you see the answer that 827 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: we just received because we've been asking the question for 828 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: a year and getting better and better and chipping away 829 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: at the unnecessary parts of the question. And so now 830 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: we have a such a clear question that we finally 831 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: got a really clear answer about what we're supposed to 832 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: do next, right, And so that's just like, yeah, the 833 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: better the question, the better the answer. Just know that 834 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: if you can get clear about the question, its answer 835 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: was born simultane Now awll you got to do is 836 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: go find it. 837 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's what's funny is even as I'm sitting here, 838 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm outlining more specific parts of the question 839 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: for myself, Like the umbrella question is what do I 840 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: do next? And in my mind I'm like, well, like, okay, well, 841 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: what's the amount of income that I can make so 842 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: that I can take off summers to be at summer camp? 843 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: So how many months am I working? How many months 844 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: am I not working? What does that income look like? 845 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 2: What then would lead to that income? How much of 846 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: that do I want to be passive? How much of 847 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: that do I want to be on camera? Like, this 848 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 2: is what's going on in my brain as you're talking, 849 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: and again, like asking the umbrella question and talking it 850 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: through you, I'm like, oh, what you came out of 851 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: this was more questions, But it's almost like a worksheet 852 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: now as opposed to like a theory. Now it's like, oh, 853 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: when you fill in this blank, will fill in this blank, 854 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: will fill in this blank, and then it's a plan. 855 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: And that's like more of what I'm working towards. 856 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: I know that now. 857 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: Now, like this summer is the like bit hit the 858 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: big reset button for me. 859 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: So it's a big question time. 860 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: But I can already see of just like well, I'm 861 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: thinking even by the end of this summer, end of 862 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: this like next quarter, I'm going to have more of 863 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: a like almost like mad libs of just like in 864 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: order to for my life to look like X, I 865 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: need to earn why. Here's the lever I'm gonna pull 866 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: for this and this to earn why. Like I'm like, yeah, 867 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: like because it's empowering. 868 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: You're like, I'm not I'm not a victim in this. 869 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like this bystander, Like I am actively making 870 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: the thing happen, you know. 871 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: And then if you go step by step, yeah, like 872 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, business, this is the question. I'm like, Oh, 873 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: I can and finding too. As I'm answering asking those questions, 874 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm like I can find the answer to that questions. 875 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: And then once I have that question. If I just 876 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: do the math, I can find the answer to the 877 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: next question, Okay, and it like it starts to branch out. 878 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: So I'm just like it's I'm like having like a 879 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: Jimmy neutron. That's so yeah, Like my brain's going like, oh, okay, 880 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: we can do this. 881 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 4: We can do this. 882 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: We just need to like take the time. 883 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: That's the favorite part of business, honestly, because the thing 884 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: is that people don't understand that when business is good, 885 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: it's hard. When business is bad, it's harder, yes, you know, 886 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: and so business is not easy, but it doesn't mean 887 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: it's not joyful. 888 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that has to be overwhelming or overworking 889 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: or whatever. 890 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: You know. 891 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying, is that like we're not 892 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: being hard, I mean challenging, but in a good way. 893 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, it grows you all of a sudden. You're like, 894 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: you know, you're going to become a better leader. It's 895 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: only just the last couple of years, after fifteen years, 896 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: that I've become like a leader that I think, like, Okay, Tiffany, 897 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: I would give myself a solid. 898 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 3: Bee in leadership. It's been fifteen years, you know, and 899 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: so like business really grows you up. 900 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: It allows you to have unlimited potential income for yourself. 901 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: You know. 902 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: It allows you to participate more easily on lifestyle design. 903 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: You know, potentially, it can allow you to look after 904 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: your family if you so desire. You know, it can 905 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: allow you to pour right back into your community. You 906 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: can really shape your world when you're a business owner. 907 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: It's certainly not easy, but the benefits are that, and 908 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: it's not for everyone to believe me, Yes, you know, 909 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: the benefits are that because there's also a lot of 910 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: risk involved. And so I just like, I'm just like 911 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: to watch you grow and blossom and learn and your 912 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: reason know, I'm always here for you, just a phone 913 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: call or text or whatever away. But no, I love that. 914 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: So as you get like, as your questions get more 915 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: and more concrete, you know, I'm one of the resources 916 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: you can reach out to to say, Okay, So I 917 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: thought about what you said, what about this, this and this, 918 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: and what I love with a good mentor that a 919 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: good mentor is not just they don't have all the answers. Instead, 920 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: a mentor is also like a like a sponsor, you know, 921 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: and a connector. 922 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what I don't know. 923 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: Let me talk to my friends such and such, or 924 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to connect you with my friend such 925 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: as such. 926 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: And she's going to talk to you, you know, and 927 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: so like. 928 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: So if y'all look it for a good mentor, I'm 929 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: just saying my mentortivity dot com. 930 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 3: The price is doubling, but not for you. Oh it 931 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: is like you know, you lock it bucks. 932 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: You're gotta worry about the twenty bucks a month because 933 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: tomorrow is the last day. Then the price goes up. 934 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. 935 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 3: I live in Hawaii and I didn't know. It's like 936 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: it's over. You know, you can still pay twenty bucks, 937 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: but why pay twenty week? You pay ten? The link 938 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: for my mentor Tiffany will be in the show notes. 939 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: But also and we have a book. Berna a not 940 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: she's been here. Not only a businesswoman, she is a 941 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: financial educator and one that is one of my favorites 942 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: because she is fun, she is aligned, she is authentic, 943 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 1: and she's just really smart. 944 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 3: Money out loud is available whoever books were sold, but 945 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna find you and the book. Berna. 946 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm having a funny moment right now because I've straight 947 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: up forgot that recording a pod. 948 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: We're recording a podcast. 949 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: But I'm just I'm like, all these people are witnessing 950 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: like incredible mentorship convers like, this is what it's like 951 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: to be a mentee with Tiffany. I again, can I 952 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: just double click if you're wondering what you would get 953 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: inside of my mentor Tiffany. I can't guarantee that you're 954 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: gonna have one on one, long, beautiful recorded conversations with Tiffany, 955 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: But like I forgot that we're recording fo this is 956 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: how magical the mentorship is for me, and to just 957 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: get a piece of that, it is so worth it 958 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: at ten at twenty, like please don't be don't be ridiculous, 959 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: do it. I'm I'm living sitting proof that her mentorship 960 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: is magical. But I can be found at Hayburna everywhere 961 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 2: on Instagram most principally, I'm like the most annoying on Instagram, 962 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: and then you could find the book. You can find 963 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: the book at Hayburna dot com. Anywhere that you buy 964 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: the book. I always go and tell people by local 965 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: hit up hit up bookshop dot org because that's where 966 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 2: you can support indie bookstores It took me a minute 967 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: to get back into like talking to other people in 968 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 2: the mic mode because I'm like, it's not a phone call. Okay, Sorry, 969 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, Hi, Hi, and by forgot y'all are there? 970 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh Bernida the awesomest thank you so much for coming 971 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: on again. 972 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 3: Oh so we'll have you on again. 973 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: But yes, if you guys have a question for Baqa again, 974 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: brannonbistionpodcast dot com. Click contact button Brown and Bishpodcast at 975 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. You can email us. We're a brown 976 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: a Vision podcast. On Instagram, you can said it's a 977 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: d of the MS and the B eight podcast. On Twitter, 978 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: you can tweet us a question and we won't answer 979 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: them about career, business, money, and just anything else you 980 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about. 981 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 2: But I'm like, Tiffany is very much alike. She could 982 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: think the word jump and I'm already I've hit the ceiling. 983 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 2: So if if anyone is gonna come sideways at Tiffany, 984 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lose. 985 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 3: So dope, honestly, yes, all right, y'all until next week, Bye, yes, 986 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 3: bye bye, Hey ba fam. 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