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Speaker 1: in the top fifteen, and so Sam Darnold, like, listen,

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Speaker 1: the pressure is on him to play well in this

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Speaker 1: spot because to me, that's still somewhat of the elephant

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Speaker 1: in the room. Can't get it done. And it is

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Speaker 1: a little reminiscent of last year Week eighteen when they

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Speaker 1: played that Lions game and the Lions were playing me

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Speaker 1: and you on defense and Aaron Glenn was just throwing

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Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at him and he was really bad

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Speaker 1: and he was really thrown off. Now we're gonna see,

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Speaker 1: like I have a lot of faith in brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: Now brock Purty throws picks every once in a while too,

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Speaker 1: Like brock Purty will make bad decisions, but brock Purdy

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Speaker 1: the moment ain't getting to it. He's played in a

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Speaker 1: ton of big games, going back to Iowa State where

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Speaker 1: he's playing games where they had no business winning, to

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Speaker 1: obviously with the forty nine Ers where he just stepped

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Speaker 1: into a Super Bowl team, and for back to back

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Speaker 1: years played in the biggest games in the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: I would expect him to play well, but it's a

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Speaker 1: really hard matchup because Seattle's defense is really really good,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's just really a fantastic game from a

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Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, from a quarterback storyline standpoint, from this game

448
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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen was kind of a stepping stone for

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Speaker 1: Kyle's career. They played the same thing back then it

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Speaker 1: was only a sixteen game schedule. They played the last

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Speaker 1: game of the season winner got the number one seed

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Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers led by dra Greenlaw, and

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Speaker 1: the last play of the game, he tackled the dude

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Speaker 1: at the one yard line and they won the game

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Speaker 1: with no time left. Guys like Deebo had a breakout game.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is the quarterback. Richard Sherman was on the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and that was kind of one of

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Speaker 1: the last big moments for Russell Wilson, and then his

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Speaker 1: career in Seattle started going the other way, and a

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Speaker 1: couple years later he wasn't even on the team. And

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Speaker 1: you know, this was a huge rivalry fifteen years ago

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Speaker 1: when Jim Harbaugh got to the Niners with Pete Carroll there,

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Speaker 1: and this game should be a lot of fun, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna. You know, does great defense win, does great

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Speaker 1: offense win? I don't know. I mean I don't. I

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Speaker 1: have a bet with Seattle, Pittsburgh, Denver, and New England

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Speaker 1: to all win their division's parlayed one hundred bucks to

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Speaker 1: pay seven g's. I've hit two of the spots. Now

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Speaker 1: if Seattle can do it in Pittsburgh, I have no faith,

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Speaker 1: so there's a decent chance I cash outer hedge. But

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Speaker 1: this is a fantastic football game. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better. And last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: this Pittsburgh Baltimore game, which I do believe should have

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Speaker 1: been Saturday night. And I'm not just saying that, oh

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Speaker 1: middlegg just a nighter Homer. No, it's just these two teams,

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Speaker 1: Seattle and San Francisco are playing for the number one

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Speaker 1: overall seat, and I get like Network's pick number one pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly I didn't read an article exactly how

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Speaker 1: it went. But this game is for the four seed

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Speaker 1: in the AFC, where depending on who they play, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be an underdog in the first round, and

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Speaker 1: most people are gonna predict that they're gonna lose, be

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Speaker 1: one and done, especially the Steelers. But whoever loses this

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday night, someone's got to get blamed. Like

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Speaker 1: you can't miss the playoffs in Pittsburgh or Baltimore, especially

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Speaker 1: when you were a super Bowl preseason the pick to

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Speaker 1: win at all and rightfully so, I mean the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years you've been right there. I mean two

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Speaker 1: years ago the number one seed, best team in football

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Speaker 1: n till Patrick Mahomes came in your building in beach it.

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Speaker 1: Last year. You had no business losing that Buffalo game.

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Speaker 1: Should have won it. You were the better team. Lamar

493
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Speaker 1: obviously had a shitty first half and you couldn't overcome it,

494
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Speaker 1: and then Andrews had the drops. But someone's getting blamed

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Speaker 1: if you lose. Now, you know, most times in sports

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Speaker 1: it's the coach, especially in football, You typically don't fire

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Speaker 1: the players. Right watch the Lway doc. They weren't firing

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Speaker 1: John Elway. They fired Dan Reeves, which was the right

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Speaker 1: choice because they hired Mike Shanahan. But in Pittsburgh, to me,

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Speaker 1: it seems pretty easy because I believe Tomlin's gone when

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Speaker 1: it actually happens, even though I do believe if they

502
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Speaker 1: lost his trade, possibility in candidacy would be the most

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Speaker 1: realistic that it's ever been. But it's pretty clear who

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Speaker 1: would get blamed if they lose, because Aaron Rodgers forty two,

505
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Speaker 1: he's probably done no matter what. DK Metcalf would not

506
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Speaker 1: be on the scene next year like they would, especially

507
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Speaker 1: because they can get out of the money. Like DK

508
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Speaker 1: Metcalf would be done. He would get blamed for this,

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Speaker 1: him hitting that fan, whether the guy said what he

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Speaker 1: said or not. He's given some press conference which is

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Speaker 1: obviously clown behavior. The whole thing is just fucking ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But you know what Pittsburgh would say, why are we

513
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Speaker 1: even in this situation? What are we doing? Why are

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Speaker 1: you gone? We just gave you seventy million dollars guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: we trade a second round pick for you, We depend

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Speaker 1: on you, and now you're disappearing. And obviously, once we

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Speaker 1: blew this Cleveland game, it really comes light because we

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Speaker 1: need you for this Baltimore game. It's why the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are heavy favorites in this game, at least with TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt Like, that's not his fault, right, and who knows,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not even the trainer's faults. It's a freak occurrence,

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Speaker 1: but We'll see if he's able to play this week,

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Speaker 1: but my guess would be if they lose, DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: will not be on the pittsopg Steelers next year. They

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Speaker 1: will cut him this off season because they can get

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Speaker 1: out of his money. And I wouldn't blame them at all.

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Speaker 1: I said at the time when they made the trade,

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense trading a second round pick and

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Speaker 1: giving DK Metcalf that much money. Are you guys crazy?

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Speaker 1: Why are you doing this deal? With John Schneider or

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Speaker 1: John Sneyder's like, are you guys serious? You're really giving

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Speaker 1: me this? And I think in Baltimore, you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people say it's time for Harbaugh, the same

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Speaker 1: thing I'll say about Tomlin. I'll believe it when I

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Speaker 1: see it. There has been some talk like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this Lamar and them is getting kind of weird. I see,

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Speaker 1: under no circumstance, even if Lamar is not healthy enough

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Speaker 1: to play this game, that would be a couple of

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Speaker 1: times over the course of his at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, he hasn't been durable enough. I just think,

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Speaker 1: under no circumstances could you trade him? And if you

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Speaker 1: did trade them, teams would be fucking lined up around

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Speaker 1: the block. I don't really know what they do, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a defendant. What are they going

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Speaker 1: to fire the coordinators? I think the Ravens are just

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Speaker 1: kind of in a spot where you start asking yourself,

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Speaker 1: did we miss our shot? Like we had an absolute

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Speaker 1: loaded team, we had excellent coaching, and we blew it

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and now we're in a

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Speaker 1: situation where we kind of limped throughout the season. We

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Speaker 1: had some moments, but we also had a lot of

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Speaker 1: shitty moments. And now we're missing the playoffs to this

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Speaker 1: crappy Steeler team who would probably if they If the

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Speaker 1: Steelers win this game and they have to play the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas in the first round, I could see the

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Speaker 1: Texans sack and Aaron Rodgers like ten times in that game.

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Speaker 1: I could see that thing being a disaster. So people

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Speaker 1: are gonna get blamed. This is There's a lot on

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Speaker 1: the line in this game, because whoever loses it will

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Speaker 1: feel like the biggest failure of the year. I mean, seriously,

561
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: they're building the next day will feel like they won

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Speaker 1: five games. And right now, if I was a betting man,

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Speaker 1: I have zero faith in Pittsburgh, So why might parlay

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers winning it? Like, I want out of

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Speaker 1: that thing. I'm not feeling good about it because they

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have no passing game. So I think

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Speaker 1: the Steeler thing. You lose this game, it feels like

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Speaker 1: I like this guy, Blake. I have a question regarding

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Speaker 1: why teams seem to play not to lose instead of

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Speaker 1: playing to win. I'm an Eagles fan and watching them

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Speaker 1: this year is in credit frustrated when they get a

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Speaker 1: big lead in the first half, i e. The Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, and the Bills, they play super conservative and

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Speaker 1: either end up losing or making it close. I know

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Speaker 1: Patula is not a good play caller, but other teams

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Speaker 1: do it too. They call run plays or screens and

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Speaker 1: go three and out multiple times in a row, giving

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Speaker 1: the other team a chance to come back. I would

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Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts. Well. I do think the

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Speaker 1: weather factor is in in a situation where it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: You know, once you're at halftime, let's score thirteen to nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be some thirty five to twenty five game, right,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a low scoring at most. You're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get twenty points, so the only way to screw

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Speaker 1: up is to turn the ball over. And you know

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Speaker 1: recently he's had a game, you know, the Charger game

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Speaker 1: where you throw the ball to the other team. You know,

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Speaker 1: in a in a rainstorm, you have balls flying through

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Speaker 1: receiver's hands. So maybe that rattles you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I Jalen was playing fantastic in the first half.

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Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned this to Colin. One of my

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Speaker 1: notes was like, he was excellent, Like he plays like

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Speaker 1: that every game that they're gonna be a major, major problem.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they just it's it's something they consistently do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had a stretch I think in the

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Speaker 1: second half where it was like punt, punt, punt, punt, punt,

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Speaker 1: five straight punts. So they're just too talented to have

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Speaker 1: these moments. And you know, I know Sirianni was feeling

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Speaker 1: himself after the game. It's like, bro, doesn't your own

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Speaker 1: team not let you call plays. Let's calm down a

638
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: little bit. AJ's face at him was like relax, but

639
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: just a bizarre thing. I would say this about the

640
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: Eagles would not shock me, Like they could beat anyone

641
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: in the NFC and we'll see how the seating plays out. Again,

642
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing this before the Rams game, but the Rams

643
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: can't even win the division, so they're gonna be on

644
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: the wild card. How it breaks between them and Chicago. Obviously,

645
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: if youre an Eagle fan, you're rooting for the Lions

646
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: to beat the Bears, and then you win this week,

647
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: and then you know you have the two seed, which

648
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: would be big because that would guarantee you two home games.

649
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you have to win the first one. But if

650
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: you beat you know, as the two seed, the Packers,

651
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: who you did last year, then you're hosting Segon Round,

652
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: which was a big reason you beat the Rams, so

653
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: which could be your Segon Round opponent. So I think

654
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: that the Eagles, it's just a weird year. I think

655
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: part of it is your offensive line is not that

656
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: good relative to how dominant it's been in the past.

657
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of years ago, you know, when

658
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: everyone was healthy with Lane and Dickerson, with Lane Mylotta,

659
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: and when Kelsey was there, I mean, you had arguably

660
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the league. And now you've

661
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: got because Lane's banged up, your interior offensive line hasn't

662
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: been as good. But I don't know. I don't I

663
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: don't really have a take beside whatever they call it

664
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: just doesn't work when they get in those ruts and

665
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: they I mean, I don't know if they still do.

666
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: I haven't checked as of after the last game, but

667
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of weeks ago, they led the league

668
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: in three and ounce, which is insane when you have

669
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: a J Brown, Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddter and Saguon Barkley,

670
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and you got other good running backs and you have

671
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: a running quarterback but he doesn't really like to run.

672
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I believe in Milake Willis has a realistic chance of

673
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: being the next quarterback to find a home like Baker

674
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: or Donald. A destination that crossed my mind and I

675
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: think could make a lot of sense would be the

676
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Panthers on a quarterback competition kind of deal, kind of

677
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: like what the Colts did with Daniel Jones and Anthy Richardson. Well,

678
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: if Milik Willis played like he just did, there's no

679
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: way probably young could beat about zero, just like Daniel

680
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: Jones was never losing that job to Anthony Richardson. I

681
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: do think there are gonna be a lot of competition

682
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: for his services now. We'll see. As I'm recording this

683
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: on Monday, Like, I guess, I'm assuming Jordan Love comes

684
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: back this week. I don't know why I would even

685
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: assume that. So who does. Maybe Milik Willis gets another game.

686
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: They're locked into the seven seeds, so maybe Milik Willison

687
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: just gets another game. Lafour kind of throws him a bone,

688
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: gives him more tape. Who knows. I mean, is he healthy.

689
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: He couldn't finish that last game obviously, you know he

690
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: messed up his shoulder and that one throw is kind

691
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: of weird. But yeah, I mean, I think I've said

692
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: this before. I'm pretty confident. Like my guess on Malik

693
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: Willis again, I feel like I'm being kind of conservative,

694
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: would be like two years, fifty million dollars. Now, again,

695
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: this is the NFL, so contract's kind of fake. I

696
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: would guess like thirty or forty guaranteed he's a better

697
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: player than Justin Fields. Justin Fields Now, granted it was

698
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: the Jets gave him two years and forty million dollars.

699
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's one of the worst contracts I've

700
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: ever seen. It was insane at the time, and clearly

701
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: it aged immediately awful quick, and I root for Justin Fields.

702
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: He's just not that good at playing quarterback. So I

703
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: think Milik Willis is gonna get some money, would be

704
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: my guess. And I think if you wanted to get

705
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Milik Willis as a Panther fan or the Panthers in general,

706
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: they would have to be aggressive financially and basically like

707
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be our starter. Did the Bills coaching staff

708
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: just get themselves fired unless they win it all? I

709
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: think we can all agree that would have been an

710
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: all time snow game if it was cold enough in

711
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Buffalo yesterday. That being said, the Brady screaming what are

712
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: you doing? And throw the ball at Josh from the

713
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: cozy booth was an embarrassment. Also, how does McDermott not

714
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: go for two on the first touchdown to make it

715
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: thirteen to eight, because there's you know, thirteen to eight

716
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: and thirteen to seven. There's no difference than being, you know,

717
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: being down five points. You still gotta score a touchdown.

718
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone when it's thirteen to six

719
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: goes for two in that spot. I think you're pretty

720
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: confident that your guys just gonna hit the pat and

721
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: even when he missed the pat, you're still just down

722
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: a touchdown and a pat, so you still control your

723
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: own destiny to win the game with a two point conversion.

724
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: So I don't think any in this modern day with

725
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: the analytics, I don't think anyone goes for two in

726
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: that spot. Even if the extra point wasn't blocked, the

727
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Eagles can kick a field goal to make it sixteen

728
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: to seven. To me, it's I hear what you're saying.

729
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I have a bigger issue of yeah. I mean, I

730
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: don't even know what my issue. I have no issue

731
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: with kicking the field goal there, and I have no

732
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: issue with going for two there. I don't even know

733
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: is anyone complaining about them going for two seems like

734
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: a kind of a no brainer given their situation that

735
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: they can't win the division. If it was like, win

736
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: that game, you win the division, then you're at home,

737
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: your defense has been playing well. Maybe be a little

738
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: more conservative. But I don't have a problem with what

739
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: they did at the end of the game. I really don't.

740
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: And let's face it, I mean, they had to get

741
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of lucky to even be in that position. They

742
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: hit a hooking ladder, they hit a couple deep bombs.

743
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean their offense just wasn't really working. I mean,

744
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles good when you had Jalen carter back with

745
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Jylex Hunt, Jordan Davis. You know, Phillips got a little

746
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: banged up, but their linebacker play. I mean Cooper dejen

747
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean Brady couldn't stop raving about him because he

748
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: saw it. Like if Cooper Dejeen would have existed in

749
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, there's no chance on guy's green Earth, Belichick

750
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have drafted him. But I feel Josh Allen is

751
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: giving two is given too many passes. No doubt Allen

752
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: is a top the quarterbacks in the league and more

753
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: responsible for the good that happens in Buffalo rather than

754
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: the bat. But time after time, I witness Allan making

755
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: crucial mistakes that heavily affect the outcome of the game,

756
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: and he gets no blame because quote no roster. Sometimes

757
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: it's silly, like the thirty yard sack fumble that easily

758
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: the two point conversion failed. Obviously Buffalo would be worse

759
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: without Allen, But I feel like he's never held accountable.

760
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Uh let me say this, I think think all these

761
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: top guys mahomes lamar Josh Allen. It's football. It's really hard.

762
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: They have some shitty moments, right, some really shitty moments,

763
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: and they get criticized that that was an awful pass

764
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: by Josh Allen. I think he'd be the first to tell,

765
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say, terrible past awful pass to me?

766
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: The sack like sometimes like he's got to make plays

767
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: out of as you know what, so you're gonna take

768
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: some terrible sacks. I have less of an issue with

769
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: the sack running around because he does that a lot.

770
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the equivalent of his version. Barry

771
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: Sanders used to get a lot of TFLs and then

772
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: every once in a while he'd take its sixty. So

773
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: like you gotta take the good with the bad. With

774
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: that specific play now on the pass, like he's got

775
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: to hit that one hundred percent of the time with

776
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: the game online, there's I think he'd be the first

777
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: to tell you he's got to make that pass. But

778
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, he's got to make the pass.

779
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: It's not an indictment of like when other guys don't

780
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: make the pass, you go, is this guy good enough?

781
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: And now I think you go long enough without winning,

782
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: you go is he actually a championship level player? And

783
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: the only way you can ever prove that is by

784
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. But you know, when I worked

785
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I worked with the guys that played

786
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: against Dan Marino, and they said he was like the

787
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: best player in the league right there with John Elway

788
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: went to one Super Bowl in his entire career, never

789
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: won it. So I don't really know, Like when Patrick

790
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a bad game, even like when Lamar has

791
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: a bad game. Now, the difference is Lamar's had awful

792
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs. It's like Lamar is a bad

793
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: game in the regular seasons, like, yeah, it happens. Tom

794
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Brady did, Peyton Manning did, Aaron Rodgers did. Now, I

795
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: think we look at in the playoffs for these guys,

796
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: that's where they're judged, Like we no longer judge Josh Lamar,

797
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers after a while, like regular season games, the great, awesome,

798
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: the bad, like whatever, was on to the next game.

799
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: You get to that level, so you're basically only criticized

800
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: on your playoff performances. But that's the way I look

801
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: at It could be wrong. Maybe we see it differently,

802
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know what to say beside like, yeah,

803
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: she's got to hit the pass. He missed it. Okay,

804
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: what's what do you want to do, Like get rid

805
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: of him, you want to trade him. I talked to

806
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: a buddy in the NFL. He's like, Listen, Burrow's a stud.

807
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Burrow's a stud. But I've evaluated all these teams in

808
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: the league, and their offensive line isn't as bad as

809
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 1: I think. The narrative out there like he holds onto

810
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: the ball for a while because he wants to make

811
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: big plays, like it's not perfect, like when other guys

812
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: do it, they tend to get crushed because they're not

813
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: as good as him. So it's like everyone has some

814
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: of their flaws, Like Josh Allen inherently has some inaccurately

815
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: flawed inaccuracy in his game, stemming back from when he

816
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: was a young player. He's not mister accurate. Same thing

817
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: with Kayleb Williams. Caleb Williams in that game made some

818
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: just throws that are like, holy Canoley, it's my guy.

819
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson would say, just a just beautiful throws as

820
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: good as it gets. And he also missed some laps, right,

821
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: So what do you want to do like qrushing for

822
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: the mislaps. Yes, not ideal. I would like to just

823
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: be able to hit the guy in the flat, hit

824
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: the guy in the out route when you're running to him,

825
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, doesn't happen. Most people aren't perfect players.

826
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Speaker 1: Question for the pod. Say his name and it's just

827
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: a picture of Tyler Schuck. Yeah, I listen. I've been

828
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: giving the guys credit. I'm a Kellen Moore, Doug nuss Meyer,

829
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm a sneaky Saints fan. I root for those guys.

830
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he looks pretty good. Let's be real,

831
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: if you could pick a team right now to represent

832
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: the South, you would take the Saints. They would be

833
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: the most fun because of that quarterback. As a Dieharden

834
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Niner fan, I pride myself on being realistic. I doubted

835
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl after Boson and Warner went down,

836
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: but I still cheered. Now after they're seeing Brock play

837
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: with only CMC as a star, I wonder is a

838
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl win possible. You get the number one seed,

839
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: the math is just in your favor. I mean shit,

840
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: you're one win away from just being in the champion

841
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: hosting the championship game. So I thought it was crazy

842
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago super Bowl win. I mean, that'd

843
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: be'd be pretty crazy if they can beat Seattle, beat

844
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: two more NFC playoff teams, and then beat whoever wins

845
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: the AFC with this defense. But like, if they beat Seattle,

846
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: then yeah, I would say they can get to the

847
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which would be one of the crazier accomplishments

848
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: in league history. When you factor and who's rolling out

849
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: on the defense. They're lasting the league in sacks. They

850
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: have backups all over the place, you know, at linebacker

851
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: and their defensive backfield. They get injuries constantly during games.

852
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean Trent Williams gets injured chasing a pick six.

853
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I just it was awesome, Like that was a cool game,

854
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Like that was thrilling. But does that translate to playoff football?

855
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: You just gotta be able to get some stops. You

856
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: just can't rely on your offense to score like five

857
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns a game. Do you think too many weapons is

858
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: an issue? Sounds dumb, but with all the reads and things,

859
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice to have your go to guys.

860
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Kyle deserves Coach of the Year and you can't change

861
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: my mind. I think the problem is whenever you say

862
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: we got too many weapons, and then you get a

863
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: couple injuries and you're pretty dependent on some random guy

864
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: I think fully healthy. You can have too many guys

865
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: because you're not utilizing a high end talent, you're probably

866
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: deficient somewhere else. Like one thing that stood out to

867
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: me in the Bears game is they are so stacked

868
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: with offensive weapons, right they got multiple tight ends. They

869
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: just draft Luther Burden, who clearly the head coach likes

870
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot. DJ Moore is a well established, high end

871
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: veteran guy, and Rome Adonde was I think the ninth

872
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: or tenth pick in the draft, so they clearly need

873
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: defensive help. You know what hit me, like when I

874
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: was laying in bed and couldn't fall asleep, like I

875
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: would guess this offseason, either DJ or Rome, whoever Ben

876
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: doesn't like more, gets traded this offseason for defensive help.

877
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: Because I Rome was just drafted high. You couldn't you

878
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: trade him. You wouldn't get the ninth overall pick. But

879
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: you can trade him for like a second round pick

880
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: and use that guy on a linebacker or a defensive lineman.

881
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: Which they clearly need. So and who knows, Maybe it's

882
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: DJ Moore because he's an older player, but I would

883
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: guess again, assuming that they love Luther Burden. And when

884
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: I say they, I mean Ben Johnson, which is all

885
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: that matters. I think you trade one of those wide receivers.

886
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes also when you have too many weapons,

887
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you ask different guys to do different things.

888
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes their skill sets kind of compliment each other. I

889
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: think you can definitely have too many of the same thing,

890
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: like if you have redundancy at one player, right, like

891
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: multiple speed guys. When your offense only calls for a

892
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: couple deep shots of game, it's kind of a waste.

893
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: But I think you've got to be very careful. A

894
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: position of depth or strength can become a weakness with

895
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: one torn achilles or a broken leg. How big is

896
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: a coaching gap in the NFL? It feels like football

897
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: is extremely coached dependent. Elite coaches like Kyle McVeigh can

898
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: elevate average talent, while poor play calling can make good

899
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: players look lost. When you compare top tier play callers

900
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: to someone like Tampa Bay's Joe Josh Grizzard. This season,

901
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: the difference feels massive. How much does the gap actually matter?

902
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: And what percentage of a quarterback success do you think

903
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: is driven by the play caller? I think a lot,

904
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: you know. I think once you get to a certain level,

905
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think once like Baker Mayfield or Sam

906
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: darm Right, once they've resurrected their career, they know what

907
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: they're fundamentals, because a huge part, like any person, it's

908
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: like in golf, your alignment, your grip, like the basic

909
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: elements of you standing over the golf ball determines whether

910
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: you're Scottie Scheffler or mir or you. But that's where

911
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: it all starts, right. It's no different than football. Your footwork,

912
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: your delivery mechanics, your just you know, center quarterback exchange,

913
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean basic shit. And once you hammer that home,

914
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: then you kind of build the offense around that. But

915
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: once the offense, the play calling kind of goes to

916
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: crap and you start getting issues. I think, fundamentals then

917
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: kind of slip, so then you're all out of whack, right,

918
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: And I think when you watch guys who are struggling,

919
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: it's the play callings poor and their fundamentals because they

920
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: try to I don't know, overcompensate for the poor play calling,

921
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: but just they just kind of get lost out there

922
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: that everything falls apart. And I think that's what happens

923
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think when you see poor play callers,

924
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: I've said this forever, some people just think about Some

925
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: people just have naturally more innate skills at certain things. Right,

926
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: whether it's whatever industry you're in, sales, finance, chef, I

927
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: don't care what you do. Some people are just naturally

928
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: more talented. Now, maybe that's through your experiences when you're younger.

929
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching the Lway doc Kyle Shanahan's standing

930
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: next right next to Mike Shanahan, who John Elway in

931
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: the documentary said, Mike Shanahan by far as the best

932
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: coach he's ever been around. There's not even a close second.

933
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: It's his fucking dad. So think about you know, for me,

934
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I spend so much time with my dad as a kid,

935
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: driving around on the ranch, going different things, going with

936
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: them to work during the summers. When I was young.

937
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: He was just like, throw you just a ra And

938
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: if I was into that, which I wasn't, My brother

939
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: is you just soak in so much stuff, You're just

940
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: sitting there with like bankers coming in. You're sitting in

941
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the corner. You can just soak up knowledge, and you know,

942
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: you see some of these guys, like I believe most

943
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: of these coordinators, like all love football at the same level.

944
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Like they think about football, they're scheming football, they're watching football,

945
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: breaking down the tape. Some people are just better than others.

946
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: And it's always been like that and always will be

947
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: like that. At the most competitive, highest level of industries,

948
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: people are more talented than their competition. And it's like

949
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: that with players. It's like that with coaches. You know,

950
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: you say players or coaches and players is no different,

951
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Like there are certain things that you possess obviously physically,

952
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: but there is like I mean, watching brock Perty last night,

953
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: there are natural instincts he has as a player that

954
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: clearly make up for some of his physical shortcomings that

955
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: he can't relate to Caleb Williams. He's not as fast,

956
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: he clearly doesn't have the arms, so you have to

957
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: make up for it in other places where if you

958
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: put his ability in the guys with the elite talent,

959
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: they'd be an unstoppable for us. But that's not the

960
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: way it works. You know, Tom Brady had to dominate

961
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: with his mind in accuracy because he couldn't run, couldn't move.

962
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Same thing with Peyton Manning. So they had to beat

963
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: you with their mind. They had to become a coach

964
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: because if they didn't, they would fucking suck. So I

965
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: think part of it is just there's just an element

966
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: of you definitely can improve. But I do think there

967
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: was a cap on some people. You know. And I'll

968
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: just use my own example. I could give find fifty

969
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: people that love sports, fire on a mic and say

970
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: for one month, every single day, you're just gonna talk

971
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: for forty five minutes, right, And by the end, if

972
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: we just ran an experiment, there'd be a couple guys like, damn,

973
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: this guy's pretty entertaining, he's pretty good. And there'd be

974
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: other people like I know a lot about football. I

975
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: watch football, I watched basketball. I love sports. Who just

976
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: are boring you just you can't fake the funk, you know,

977
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: And clearly there are some coordinators who just lack I

978
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: don't know, ability, and some of it's talent around you.

979
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: But you watched Tampa Bay. It's like the receivers look

980
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: pretty good, you know. I saw Liam Cohen look austin

981
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: last year, and now I see him with Trevor Lawrence,

982
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: who I honestly thought was a bust look good. You know,

983
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: win game. They win twelve wins the Jags, So clearly

984
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen is just better than most. Question for the Pod,

985
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: You've talked about some of the other bad teams offseason

986
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: decisions coming up. What do you think a realistic positive

987
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: set of moves that will need to be made by

988
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Adam Peters in Washington? Cause that second round pick loss

989
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: is a backfire for Tunzel and they went old on

990
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: defense another failure. They need to get younger and infuse

991
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: the D with some players, and Daniel's not not to

992
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: be injured consistently, otherwise Quinn might already be looking at

993
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: being fired. I really think they had an opportunity to

994
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: build on last year's success. Congratulations on everything. It's tough, man,

995
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I one of our guys is a diehard

996
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Washington fan. In what game? I was watching the Christmas

997
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: Day game, and I have a lot of respect for

998
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: this player. He's clearly a future Hall of Famer. But

999
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: how is Bobby Wagner still in the field constantly? He

1000
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: can't move in a game that's like a spread, you know,

1001
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: lateral game. Now right, this isn't just like plugging the

1002
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: a gap and stopping the run. How is this possible?

1003
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: And sometimes coach like, well love is mine. It's like,

1004
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: well he can't cover me, so this is going to

1005
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: be a problem, and I just have to wonder. You know,

1006
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn seems like a nice guy. Got lightning in

1007
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: a bottle last year. He's clearly a good defensive coordinator

1008
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: when he has players, But like, I don't know, I mean,

1009
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: could we have overvalued him a little bit? Like is

1010
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: he as dynamic as we think? It was? Just hey man,

1011
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: they made some bad persons, They got old, their quarterback

1012
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: got injured. You know that their path to flipping this

1013
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: thing around. Deebo's a free agent. He's been productive for him.

1014
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: They have to extend Laramie Tunzel, who the Texans just

1015
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: went we don't want anytime people that are good at

1016
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: their job. Take a player who's like a high end guy.

1017
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: John Schneider did this with DK They did this with

1018
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzel and say we don't want to pay them.

1019
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: I would be like, why do I want to pay them?

1020
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: That's what I would ask myself, why do I want

1021
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: to pay them? If they don't, what do they know?

1022
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Because they know the guy better than me that I

1023
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: don't know. And it could be simply like I get it,

1024
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: but we just need a left tackle and this is

1025
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: our easiest path, which there's truth to that. But it's

1026
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna be tough because here's the other thing. The Eagles

1027
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: team is just way more talented than you the Cowboys.

1028
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 1: If they have a solid draft, they got a bunch

1029
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: of picks, like they could just dramatically be much improved

1030
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: on defense and their offense is already good. It's gonna

1031
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: be hard, you know that division? And what if the

1032
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Giants just get a credible coach? What if they just

1033
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: trade for John Harball or Mike Tomlin who their teams

1034
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: might be over. But like for the Giants, that would

1035
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: be a massive, massive win question for the POD I

1036
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: don't understand people aren't sold on Ryan Pols's GM. He

1037
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: has done nothing but filled the organization with talent and

1038
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: really good coaching. One could argue he's been a better

1039
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: GM than Veach. From a furnishing standpoint, Vach is not

1040
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: giving Mahomes adequate receiving running back talent over the last

1041
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: three years. Well, vach is also drafting thirty second. You

1042
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: guys drafted first and then ninth. I mean, you've read

1043
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot high picks. Listen. If he was a big

1044
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: part of convincing Ben Johnson to come, he deserves all

1045
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: the credit in the world. Deserves all the credit in

1046
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: the world, right, But was Ben Johnson coming to them

1047
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: with or without him? Does he get credit for drafting

1048
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: Kleb Williams number one overall? He was also on record

1049
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: to think Drake May couldn't play dead in the Western

1050
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: So I think I'm not gonna crush the guy. He's

1051
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: the GM of a team that just won the division

1052
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, you know,

1053
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: with a division full of Kevin O'Connell, Lafleur and the

1054
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Packers and obviously the Lions who had won the division

1055
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: for several years. So you get credit for that. But

1056
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: when you've sucked for a long time and you pick high,

1057
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: you are just gonna end up with good players. Now,

1058
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: if you tell me he was the salesman that landed

1059
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, then I would give him one hundred credit.

1060
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: He would deserve all the credit. I don't know I

1061
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know him personally. People that I know with the

1062
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: Chiefs have always thought highly of him. I know some

1063
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: people in the league that don't love him, but he

1064
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the business, you know, Beside

1065
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: like a couple people, if you ask ten people in

1066
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: the NFL about person X, you're gonna get some people

1067
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: that hate him. You're gonna get some people that are jealous,

1068
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get some people that have known him

1069
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: for twenty years and like whoever that individual is. But

1070
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: you're the GM of a winning team, you get credit,

1071
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: and you're the GM of a losing team, you get crushed.

1072
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: It's the nature of this business. No one gives a

1073
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: shit about your process. If your name's not Nick Saban

1074
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: leagues about winning and losing. Feach would be the first

1075
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: to tell you did a shitty job. They're probably gonna go,

1076
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders better hope not. You know, they

1077
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: go six and eleven. That means they ruin the Raiders season.

1078
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: But obviously the Chiefs just weren't good enough this year.

1079
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: When it happens, you make bad decisions. But I'd also say,

1080
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, Veach's resume speaks a little bit stronger than Poles.

1081
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: And again, I think those guys are good friends, so

1082
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm pitting these two against each other.

1083
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know who's criticizing Ryan Poles in late

1084
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: December in twenty twenty five. I think he's getting a

1085
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: lot of credit. Meanwhile, the president, who's just laughing stock

1086
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, negotiated got destroyed by Fox and the negotiation

1087
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: deal when he ran the Big ten, is threatening to

1088
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: move to Indiana. You're not moving to Indiana, buddy, no one.

1089
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: I think I saw Nick Wright say this. You never

1090
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: have to worry about a big market ever leaving so

1091
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: they can pretend to move. They would never leave a

1092
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: big market. Why because that's where the money is. You know,

1093
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: That's that's where the cash is. You know. The Raiders

1094
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: left Oakland to go to Vegas. Why because there was

1095
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: more money there for him. The forty nine ers would

1096
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: not have left Silicon Valley for Vegas, just like the

1097
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears will not leave Chicago for Indiana. I can't

1098
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: speak to the chiefs. I don't know all the geographics

1099
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: of Kansas, Missouri. I mean, I've been there before, but

1100
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand it. All. But I know

1101
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: for a one hundred percent fact the Chicago Bears will

1102
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: not leave Chicago. You know that ain't happening. So Poles

1103
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: deserves more credit than and listen, his job's hard because

1104
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: you got to deal with Kevin Warren that somehow has

1105
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: become like the pseudo owner. So it's never He's always

1106
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: in the in the videos behind Ben Jonson, like the guy.

1107
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: The guy likes himself some camera time. He likes to

1108
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: be a star. So if Ryan polls navigating that relationship

1109
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: for a guy who clearly wants the credit when things

1110
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: are going well, Kevin Warren's right there. Shit, if this

1111
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: season had gone south, that guy would be nowhere to

1112
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: be found. So I'll give Ryan Poles a lot of

1113
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: credit on that one. Yeah, well we'll wrap up on

1114
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Speaker 1: that for the night, So audios. The volume