1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: the truth lives here Packed twelve Apostles. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amerson, and this is the 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Pac twelve Apostles. You guys, make sure that you leave 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: a five star rating wherever you listen to podcasts. So 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: don't listen to Ralph from the beginning of this podcast 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: where he was tweaking, and we will read yours on air, 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: and also shoot us an email. 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Yeah, they did the thing, they did the 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: thing you hate the most. 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, a three or four star review. 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: We got ourselves a four star review, which for people 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: who were uninitiated didn't weren't here For the first two 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: seasons of this podcast. George was mad at me all 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: day every day because I said, if you leave a 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: four star review with like something you want to see 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: us change or whatever, like, as long as you come 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: back to make it five stars. Uh what what that 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: turned into was like a truckload of four star reviews. 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: No one ever came back to change and uh yeah, 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: so we got ourselves a four star review. George, Okay, 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: let's go okay, this is from lang Cree. 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: This is a University of Arizona fan and I have 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: some things I take exception to this end, but I'll 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: read it and then we'll get to those. A little 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: off is the title. It's a great title. Love you guys, 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: but tell me you didn't watch the Arizona Mississippi State game. 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: Without telling me you didn't watch the game, Jayden did 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: kill me. But the Arizona defense is much approved. And 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: outside of that first drive where Mississippi State ran eighty 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: eight yards, look at the rushing defense. This was more 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: about Arizona losing the turnover battle, and still this game 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: had a chance to win. At the end of regulation 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: where Teamac stepped out of bounds and then a mistackle 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: in overtime, but four turnovers kept Mississippi or But even 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: though they had four turnovers, Arizona State in this game 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: as fourteen to seven a half time. Let's not delude 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: the fact that Mississippi State has boasted one of the 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: best SEC SEC defense. Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: They were in Starkville. Pretty sure the showing doesn't bode 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: well for most non SEC opponents, and MSU fans were 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: more than clear that they got lucky. Anyway, keep up 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: the good work on the games you do watch. 55 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Also, it was fifty million that packed twelve ohs to Comcast, 57 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: not thirty or seventy forks down and bear down later. 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: All right, so let's address this. Number one, thanks for 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: the review, you know, and I understand where Arizona fans 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: don't feel as served as other people because Colorado's getting 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: a ton of attention Oregon USC Ralph's and Arizona State. Guy, 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: I understand it. I do understand it. But we're watching 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: these games, and I do there are a couple things 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: that we do have to correct. Number One, Mississippi State's 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: defense is not that good. This year, they just gave 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: up forty one to LSU Arizona. Arizona scored twenty four 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: against them and just ridiculous turnovers, and then they gave 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: up seven points to Southeast Louisiana, So that doesn't even count. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: The issue with the reason why Arizona's defense didn't get 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: as much praise as people would have wanted from Arizona 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: is like, yes, is it improved one hundred percent? However, 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: the issue is against Mississippi State. There was only two 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: games of information and Mississippi State's offense is atrocious this year. 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: They are a air raid team built as an air 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: raid team, and they're trying to do something completely different 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: now and they don't have the personnel to do it. 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: The Rogers, who had thrown the ball like six hundred 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: times a season, is on pace to throw about like 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty times this year. They're taking a 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: ball out of his hands. It is against LSU, whose 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: defense is cool, Like it's not you know Georgia from 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: last year they had either ten or eleven consecutive no 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: gain or negative game plays like this. This defense is terrible. 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: So yes, we didn't give Arizona credit that you probably wanted, 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: but that's why. But good showing against you, TEP. Though. 86 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: I take exception to not saying that we don't watch 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: the games because I feel like the mood that I've 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: been in for the last few days is because I 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't all my time watching back twelve football. I definitely 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: watched this game. On the podcast, I talked about how 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: goofy I thought Zach Allen's halftime interview was where they 92 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: asked him, is there gonna come a time where you 93 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: put the ball in the hands of your quarterback? So like, 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: even even people like that are paid to like pump 95 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: up these games, know that Mississippi State is using the 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: toy incorrectly. Yeah, No, I watched, and I feel like 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: what we said was the only reason they were in 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: the game was because of Jaden DeLaura and the only 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: reason they lost the game was because of Jaden Delora. 100 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Correct. 101 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: Maybe we didn't give credit to Arizona's defense. Maybe maybe 102 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: like all can see that they are Herbie looks great, 103 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: that they are much better, and especially the UTEB game 104 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: in there, they are much better. I am upset. I definitely, 105 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: you know what, I definitely spend my entire weekend watching 106 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: Sacramento State be Stanford. Oh, here's when the state scores 107 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: zero points. I do watch these games, and I think 108 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: it's affecting my mental and physical health. 109 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: All right, well as your mental and physical health being 110 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: done a good service by how much DION coverage that 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: there's been, because there are some people who are like, oh, 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: I'm so deonned out. It's I have fatigue, and I'm like, 113 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: clearly people don't. Nine point three million people watch that game, 114 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: fifth most game ever watched on ESPN, and that was 115 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: a ten to twenty kick Eastern Time. And somebody tweeted 116 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: at me when I talked about that. They were like, see, 117 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: oh see, you guys act like people on the West 118 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: coast don't watch football do nine point three And then 119 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: in the hour of eight to eight fifteen, which is 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: eleven to eleven fifteen Eastern Time, there were eleven It 121 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: peaked out at eleven million viewers. You don't just get 122 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: that from West Coast to Loan, baby, you got to 123 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: have the whole coast. 124 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: So this dude, all of Atlanta, you had, all of Jackson, 125 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: Mississippi hate watching it. They're like everybody was too dep 126 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: so see Colorado and the CSU rams play. 127 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: So they have become polarizing. But is this are people 128 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: more wanting Dion to lose or are they wanting like, yeah, 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: are they watching more because they want to see Dion 130 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Lewes because they're watching the pregame shows. Two are doing 131 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: stupid numbers. 132 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: There's To me, it feels very balanced to me. I 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: have two questions for you, because one, it feels very 134 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: balanced to me. I think people want to be part 135 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: of a movement, and this is a movement. This isn't 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: just a college team having success. This very much feels 137 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: like a movement. It feels like a like a populist wave. 138 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be part of it. And if it's 139 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: the only thing that people are talking about and they're 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: enthusiastic about it, then you're gonna have other people weigh 141 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: in just because it's the topic of conversation. All of 142 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: this is completely natural. It doesn't seem out of the 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: ordinary at all. For me, it doesn't seem forced. Part 144 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: of that is growing up in the shadow of Dion. 145 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: Thirty percent of the world is covered in or seventy 146 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: percent of the world's covered in water, and deon covers 147 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: the rest. Like you know at that poster on my wall. 148 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 3: Growing up, I watched Braves games. I saw him and 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 3: Brian Jordan both do double duty. Like Dion has been 150 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: one of the biggest figures in sports my entire life. 151 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: This is not it doesn't feel that different to me. 152 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: But here's here's my question for you. Do you feel 153 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: like it's happening naturally or do you feel like this 154 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: is a forced me? 155 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no, this is natural and 156 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: but there, but it's not Dion doing it all by himself. 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: It's other people adding to the fire. Like there's no 158 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: way nine point three million people watch that game if 159 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Jay Norvel does not make that comment, right right, because 160 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: that just boosted and people wanted to see if Colorado 161 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: was going to get blown out. And then as soon 162 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: as it was like twenty fourteen seven or fourteen zero, 163 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: people were like, oh, oh oh, I'm tuning in to 164 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: see what what what happens? And uh yeah yeah, people 165 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: were like tuning in to see what happens. 166 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you had the rock there. You had an 167 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: offset being interviewed during offsetting penalties, which is one of 168 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: the funniest things I've ever seen. You had Kawhi Leonard 169 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: pull up. Someone tweeted that he doesn't pull up to 170 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: Clippers games, which is an incredible post. Yes, Lebron James 171 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: has fifty two million followers on Twitter alone, and he 172 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: was posting about it. People are gonna want to know 173 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 3: what Lebron's talking about, what he's interested in. It's all 174 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: that people are talking about on the shows that are 175 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: typically dedicated to only talking about Lebron James. So you 176 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: know it. I don't know. None of this surprises me, 177 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: and I think the thing that upsets me the thing 178 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: that upsets me. Everything upsets me, but the thing the 179 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: thing that upsets me is I feel like for a 180 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: lot of episodes of this podcast last year and early 181 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: this year, I was like, Hey, do you think Dion's 182 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: the missing piece to getting us a new TV deal? 183 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: Because people will actually be watching Pack twelve games and 184 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: the idea of ownership over those PAC twelve games would 185 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: make these TV executives salivate. And I won't say that you're. 186 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: The only person that told me no, but you told 187 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: you told me no, Yes I did. 188 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm not right about very many things. If if that 189 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: media deal was on the table right now, there'd be 190 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: a bidding war. 191 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Now, yes and no, right if they got assurances. 192 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: Watch the winless Colorado State Rams, winless Colorado State Rams 193 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: nine point three million, two in the morning on the 194 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: West coast, people watching an overtime college football game. You 195 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: could sell them so many mypillows or whatever. 196 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I would tell what I would say 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: is what I would say is is once USC and 198 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: UCLA left, right, So if this Dion thing happened prior 199 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: to that, right, uh, then then it would have been 200 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: a different scenario. If if this had happened before UCLA 201 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: and UCLA left, USA and UCLA left, Yes, one, everything 202 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: would have been fine. The problem is is that after 203 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: UCLA and USC level And that's why I was saying 204 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: that it won't change. Not that Dion won't have a 205 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: big impact, but it was just more that that wasn't 206 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: gonna be the thing that determine whether we got a 207 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: deal or not. 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: That what about now? What about that deal was on 209 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: the table right now? Thirty one million for school right now? 210 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: I think that they would have to get that, the 211 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: networks would have to get some assurances from Dion that 212 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: he wasn't going to pick up and leave for X 213 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: number of. 214 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: Years, Larry Scott was trying to give away ten percent 215 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: of the network, ten percent of the conference. 216 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Nobody cares what Larry Scott was trying to do. Bro. 217 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: They did they needed to give away to give the 218 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: PAC ten coaches as they're in place as long as 219 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: they're employed. 220 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: If they leave, they surrender it one percent of the conference. 221 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: Revenue as their salary. 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: No. 223 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: In addition, man, if you don't get the hell up 224 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: out of here, No, absolutely not f off, No way, 225 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: that's that's outright, dude. That's like, uh, what do we 226 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: what are we talking about? 227 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: Fine, it's just the end of our podcast. 228 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 229 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: You're right, No, let's let's not daydream about what could 230 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: have been done. Let's just accept our fate. Well, nine 231 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: point three million people watch the winless csu Rams take 232 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: deonto overtime and not go for two. What are you doing, Jay, 233 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: what are you doing? 234 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Well? He was behaving like he thought his team was 235 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: the better team. That's what that's what better teams do 236 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: in that in that situation. But you know, oh, okay, 237 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: so the the infamous hit, the Blackburn hit. Yeah, I 238 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: hate the death threats and and honestly, in sports, sometimes 239 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: we get the ugliest side of people. It's crazy because 240 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: sports brings people together, but it also at times. I 241 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: don't know if there's anything like, like anything uglier than 242 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: what sports fans do. Sometimes it was ugly week. 243 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: Henry Blackburn got called every name in the book. He's 244 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: from Boulder. That's tough. That's tough because it was a 245 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: dirty hit. Dirty hits happen, though people act like when 246 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: you say like it was a dirty hit, that you're 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: saying a crime was committed. No, no, it was a 248 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: dirty hit. 249 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: Shouldn't go to jail, but he should be suspended for 250 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: as long as he's hurt. And the narrative that I 251 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: got back was, oh, you're only saying this because he's black. 252 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: You're only saying this because if Travis Hunter had hit him, 253 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have said a thing. That's not true. I 254 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: would have said the exact same thing. I've been calling 255 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: for this for years. This wasn't to protect Travis Travis 256 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: Henry Travis Hunter. This was to protect players in general. 257 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: We've seen dirty cheap shots in sports, and I believe 258 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: that if a cheap shot reserve that it's if it's 259 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: clearly malicious, like in this case, the ball had hit 260 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: the ground. Yeah, and you do and Travis and Travis 261 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: Hunter has slowed up and he just took a shot 262 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: that he should be suspended as long as Travis Hunter 263 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: is out, like period. 264 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: I did see a lot of comments from like from 265 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: Oregon fans. So I assume Oregon fans know you and 266 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: they've seen your content online for the past like a 267 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: dozen years. And they were saying that the only reason 268 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: you were going after Henry Blackburn is because he was white. 269 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: And they were responding to a video that you posted 270 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: about how Kareem Jackson should be suspended for as long 271 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: as it takes for Logan Thomas to get healthy. It 272 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: was very, very very confusing, the things that people get 273 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: in their head and then they choose to say out loud. 274 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: And I also want to bring up I can't let 275 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: this go that you accidentally almost said Travis Henry. 276 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: That's what I was correcting. And and he's got a 277 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: son who's really good that plays wide receiver to the 278 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: late Travis Henry. Yes, oh wait, no, no, oh my 279 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, no, I was thinking that, no, not, 280 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: that's Chris Henry's son. Travis Henry was the running back 281 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: with all the kids from Denver who went to jail 282 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: for drugs. 283 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: I just wanted to point out that I've never heard 284 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: Travis Henry in protection in the same sentence before, and 285 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: you almost wow wow. So anyway, oh. 286 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: And then and then people pointed out they were like, well, 287 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: should should or stuck his hand in the kids' face mask? 288 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: How about that nobody got got hurt. If if he 289 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: had got his corny a scratch, get him out of 290 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: their suspension. 291 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Like I'm I think I think it's reasonable. 292 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: Do I think it will happen. No, I don't think 293 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: there'll be mirror suspensions, but I think it's completely reasonable. 294 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: It was a dirty hit, but there were a lot 295 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: of people that don't watch I feel like a lot 296 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: of college football that were tuned in for this that 297 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: don't realize that, like maybe every third game has a 298 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: hit like that. And people were reacting to the result, 299 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: which was a lacerated liver for Travis Hunter. But Travis 300 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: Hunter's cool with it. Deon Sanders cool it. Deon Sanders 301 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: called it a tremendous hit that probably shouldn't have happened. 302 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: But he called it a tremendous hit because Dion grew 303 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: up playing in the era of Sports Center doing jacked up, 304 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: we used to celebrate this exact hit, which was always dirty. Yeah, 305 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: we used to celebrate it, right it And you've talked 306 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: about like that. You feel like they're doing some stuff 307 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: to take the football out of football, with targeting and 308 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: everything like this. When you get an obviously dirty play, 309 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 3: you get people thrown out for targeting, But for this 310 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: is just forty five feet that's all you get for 311 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: a hit after the play. But Henry Blackburn shouldn't be 312 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: getting death threats. I appreciate that Deon came out and 313 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: said that it's very tough for him that his hometown 314 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: is Bolder. The thing that frustrated me the most is 315 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: that some idiot found an article saying that in Fairview 316 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: High School a football player was accused and convicted of 317 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: sexual assault. And they put that article out there without 318 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: any name attached, and then all of a sudden, you 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: had thousands of people calling Henry black for an a rapist. 320 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: Guess what article wasn't about him? Yeah, So now like 321 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: he's got his Twitter locked down, he's in hiding, and 322 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: I just want to put out there for people the 323 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: hit was dirty. You never know the result of a 324 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: hit like that. Those hits happened all of the time. 325 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: There's not really a place for it in football, except 326 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: there is. And you can't base the results of what 327 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: happens to somebody on the level of vitriol that you expressed. 328 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: It was a great hit. It should have been penalized 329 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: more than it is, but the rules don't allow for it. 330 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he should die or be 331 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: accused of crimes that could commit. And if you don't 332 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: have the ability to process that information, you probably shouldn't 333 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: be left alone to watch TV late at night anyway. 334 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Correct, Oh, for sure. And you shouldn't be allowed to 335 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: watch cable news either. 336 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: Somebody should be chewing your food for you. 337 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of people who need their food chewed 338 00:18:53,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: for it. The appole voters, the sixty two AP voters, 339 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: these are smart football people. So I want to preface 340 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: this by saying this. These are people who know football, 341 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: who watch football, who study football. They're also a basketball 342 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: voter like these are knowledgeable people in sports. So it 343 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: is frustrating to me when the AP pole does not 344 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: reflect what's happening on the field. When it is reflecting 345 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: recruiting rankings, expectations, what you expect to happen later in 346 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: the season, because there is no reason Georgia should be 347 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: ranked number one at this point in time, no reason. 348 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: There's nothing that they've shown on the field that says 349 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: that they should be number one. And Michigan has not 350 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: played anybody of consequence. They've played UNLV bowling Green in 351 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: East Carolina. They scored a maximum I think of thirty 352 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: five points. I think they scored thirty, thirty one and 353 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: thirty five, Like it's not and they're number two in 354 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: the country for what when Texas has beaten Alabama? But 355 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: then there's another problem is why is Alabama still ranked thirteenth? 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: They don't know they got a quarterback problem. They're getting 357 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: pushed around and they got smoked. Like what's if that 358 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: happened to a Pac twelve team, it'd be over. And 359 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: if the Pac twelve had eight teams ranked like well, 360 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: if the SEC or Big ten had eight teams ranked 361 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 2: like we do right now, do you know what would happen? 362 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Do you know what they would be saying, cancel the 363 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: rest of the season, give them the championship and all 364 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: of that, and you know how bad it is if 365 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm caping for Washington because Washington should be number one, two, 366 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: three in the nation at this point in time. On 367 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: my poll, I have Florida State one, Washington two, USC three, 368 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: Texas four. That's what I got, and I feel like 369 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: it's a realistic representation of of what we've seen in 370 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: terms of dominance displayed, schedule played, and quality wins. And 371 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: that's what you got, and you can't base it upon 372 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: oh man, George is so good. Though I know they'll 373 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: figure it out, it doesn't matter they haven't figured it out. 374 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: Hence why I have Utah ranked around twenty. It's not 375 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: because I don't think Utah is a really good team, 376 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: because in the preseason I had them like in the 377 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: top ten or twelve. It's not that it's that based 378 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: upon what we have seen on the field, Well, Cam 379 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: Rising will be healthy. Well, when Cam Rising is healthy, 380 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: they will adjust. And my rankings that are not dependent 381 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: upon somebody else losing. For you to move up, you 382 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: can move up regardless of what everybody else does. And 383 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: that's the way I believe that the AP poters voter 384 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: should do re rank it from scratch every single week 385 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: instead of oh, well, well, team one one Okay, they're good. 386 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: Team two to one, they're good team three one, they're good. 387 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: Okay seven seven loss. Okay, now let's see who we 388 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: can move into that spot. 389 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're not only are you right, but like 390 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: the AP voters are supposed to be the ones that 391 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: give us relief from the culture of fanboy media, right, yep, 392 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: we're out here as part of i'm I went to 393 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: Arizona State, you went to Oregon. I do love the 394 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: PAC twelve, I do, but like I went to Arizona State, 395 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: you went to Oregon. It shows up in the things 396 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: that we do and it's not anything that we're ashamed of. 397 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: But the AP voters they are they can be fanboys, 398 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: and you pointed this out in a video you put 399 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: out on your YouTube channel today. They're fans of themselves, 400 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: like they try to justify the guests they made at 401 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. At absolutely every turn, the 402 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: information presented to you in the self contained capsule of 403 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: this season and this season alone should be what you 404 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: were looking at. And my biggest fear is because there's 405 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: a big ten bias, because there's an East Coast bias, 406 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: and it's just the truth. At this point, you know, 407 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like the people that just 408 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: constantly whine about it. It's just true. So assuming that 409 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: it's true, assuming that more emphasis is placed on the 410 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: level of competition in the SEC, even in the ACC 411 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: when the ACC is good look at Clemson, uh, you know, 412 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: and definitely the Big ten. What you're gonna see this 413 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: weekend is if Notre Dame beats Ohio State. You pointed 414 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: out the fact that people do that checklist the way 415 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: on down. But if Notre Dame beats Ohio State, it 416 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: would not surprise me to see Notre Dame jump both 417 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Washington and USC. 418 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would not surprise me at And that doesn't 419 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: make it. 420 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: It does not make sense to me because what would 421 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: be especially if if Notre Dame really gets them, We're 422 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: and this probably won't happen. But like I'm talking two 423 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: three scores, then what that should tell you is the 424 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: truth about Ohio State, not that you were right about 425 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 3: Ohio State. Therefore we must adjust what we think of 426 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. No, it means you were wrong about Ohio State, 427 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: and maybe Notre Dame isn't all that great, which means we. 428 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: Have What they do though, is Notre Dame is one 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: of the best teams or House they still really really good. 430 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: But Notre Dame though like that, Yeah, that's the way 431 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: that it goes. 432 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: And I don't see them giving like if u c 433 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: LA beats Utah, I don't see them being like Utah 434 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: is still really good. 435 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: But I know they're they're gonna say Utah was overrated 436 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: the end. 437 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: Florida smashed Tennessee. Yes, smash Tennessee. 438 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: And how is Tennessee still ranked in front of Florida 439 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: when Florida's only lost is to a team that the 440 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: Apeopole has? What eleventh? How does that? 441 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: Because it's because they started out the year saying Tennessee 442 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: was twelve and Florida was forty two. They are trying 443 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: to justify their initial guess instead of just re examining 444 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: the data as it comes. That one's simple though one 445 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: team smashed another, How did the a P voters not 446 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: take that into account? 447 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: Especially when Utah when Florida's only lost is to a 448 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: team that you have extremely high top twelve? 449 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Right? Yes, eleventh? 450 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: Yes? Make it make sense? 451 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: No? And because and because there's sixty two of them, 452 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: it's really hard to like deliver a message that changes 453 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: one person's mind at a time, the group of them 454 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: absorbs the criticism. 455 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 456 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: It's just like when people criticize the NCAA, your target 457 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: is really two or three idiots, but when you say NCUBA, 458 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: they're protected by the fact that you're attacking this. 459 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: Yes, the organization unization. Yeah, all right, speaking of shadowy organizations, USC, 460 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: they are dude, you've just been helping these segues super easy, bro. 461 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: So USC has decided that they are going to suspend 462 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: one of their that they are suspending one of their 463 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: young journalists. And this young man wrote an article about 464 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: something that he heard the team, you know, that was 465 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: that was going on with with the team. And according 466 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: to USC's rules, that you can only write about or 467 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: talk about anything that has to do with what you 468 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: that what you hear while you're in designated media areas. 469 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: That's it. That is all you are allowed to write 470 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: or talk about. Now, there are other schools like Arizona 471 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: State where Jade and Rashata and other people were hurt 472 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: this week, and they decided that they were going to 473 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: ensure well. And their rule is that they want to 474 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: make sure that nobody is talking about injuries because they 475 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: don't want to give an advantage to the other team. 476 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: They want to make sure that they have, you know, 477 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: the advantage. So nobody reported that Jade and Rashata was 478 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: hurt even though he was. And that's a little bit 479 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: of an issue for people. And you even had Chip 480 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Kelly being asked about it yesterday and saying, all right, well, 481 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: well guys, are you Chip, have you ever suspended anybody? 482 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Is there anything that can get you suspended here at UCLA? 483 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: And Chip was like, bro, I didn't even know you 484 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: could suspend reporters. He was like, what are you guys 485 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: talking about? And they told them and they said something 486 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: happened across times like whoa, whoa, listen, I'm not getting 487 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: another people's business. I just know that like that, that 488 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: this is not the way that this is not the 489 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: way that you're supposed to do it. And and I 490 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: am surprised that that that's the case. So Ralph, there's 491 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: a big war now between the media out here in 492 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: La Plaski and everybody else and Lincoln Riley of course, 493 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: the school was going to back him up. And you know, 494 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: we saw Chip Kelly's reaction, so we Chelsea, I mean 495 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: this is This feels kind of soft to me. 496 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll put a couple of things in here. 497 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Number one. Number one, this is la so media members. 498 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: First of all, they're all gonna if it seems like 499 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: they all just assembled like the Avengers, uh to attack 500 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, it's because they did your livelihood. Yeah, it's 501 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: this will happen if you, if you take on the media. 502 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: This is why it always felt like it was Trump 503 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: versus the media, right like he and it was it was, 504 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: but he very much knew that. Like there's a subset 505 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: of people that doesn't like the media, doesn't trust the media, 506 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: even though I personally believe there's not really such a 507 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: thing as the media until the media becomes the media. 508 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: It's really its own little things with its own little agendas. 509 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: But if you attack one, then like everybody takes offense. 510 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: And it's it almost feels like the writer's strike, right, 511 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: Like you got that the Writer's Guild, the actors Guild, 512 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: then you got the Holly producers. They all work together 513 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: on a daily basis, but all of a sudden they 514 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: hate each other and they just say bad things but 515 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: each other, like if you if you, if you attack 516 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: the media, and they feel like in any way their 517 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: freedom could slip, or that first Amendment that they very 518 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: much value is slipping. They will all come together. So 519 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: that's the reason that you're you're seeing everybody come out 520 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: for a two week suspension of Luca Evans. That's the 521 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: first thing I want to say. So, yeah, if it 522 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: seems ridiculous, it's because it kind of is. But this 523 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: has happened every time throughout all of history. The second 524 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: thing is this is l a. These people weren't afraid 525 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: of Phil Jackson, they're not afraid of the bus Family. 526 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: They're not afraid of. 527 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah this ain't this, ain't this ain't Oklahoma, buddy. Yeah 528 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: they there there's other games in town, and and as 529 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: long as you're winning, of course. But the but the 530 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: problem is as you don't want to make enemies out 531 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: of these people, because as soon as something goes goes wrong, boy, 532 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: they will roast show ass like you weren't even yeah. 533 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 3: And there's people who will hear that and be like, well, 534 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: then the media is not unbiased. We're talking about columnists, right, 535 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: We're talking we're talking about the because the biggest voice 536 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: in media are the people who are like the columnists, 537 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: and then you have like all the Beat reporters and stuff, 538 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: and Luca Evans trying to be a Beat reporters very 539 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: early on in what he's doing. This is the third thing. 540 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: Beat reporters are different than columnists. Yes, beat beat reporters 541 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: typically are going to be way more favorable to a 542 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: team than a columnist is necessarily. 543 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, beat reporters going to be like, uh, this person 544 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: was wearing this cover cleats today, and a columnist is 545 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: going to be like, did this person wear this color 546 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: cleats because they're a racist? Like that's two different worlds, right, 547 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: But like, so here's the third thing, and I think 548 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: this is the most important thing. Lincoln Riley says that 549 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: they're enforcing the rules. Right. He overheard one player talking 550 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: about shyness in front of the media and he printed 551 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: that quote about how a player over it's a puff piece, 552 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: big time puff piece. But Lincoln Riley was like, the 553 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: rules are black and white. These are the rules. We 554 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: have to follow the rules or else this reporter has 555 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: to suffer the consequences and get suspended. And to Lincoln Riley, 556 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: and I hope that he hears this. I just want 557 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: you to hear from me. You don't want to live 558 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: in a world of black and white. No, you, no, 559 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: head coach of USC, do not want to live in 560 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: a world of black and white. Because I'm going to 561 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: tell you something about the media have been protecting your 562 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: program because it is a net benefit to the thing 563 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: that these libs. They want to see the players get paid. 564 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: They're on the side of the worker, right. They have 565 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: been protecting your program. Who has not been doing things 566 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: inside the lines or black and white. They've been protecting 567 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: your program because of the net benefit that it has 568 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: to the student athlete. Because almost everybody in the media 569 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: is on the same page on the idea that they 570 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: want these athletes to revenue share. And so let's put 571 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: it this way, the puff piece had a net benefit 572 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: to your players. Yes, therefore, suspending this reporter probably shouldn't 573 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: have been your main priority. Correct, because the way that 574 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: USC has amassed their last two rosters in particular, has 575 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: had a net benefit to a lot of student athletes, 576 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: but it hasn't exactly been inside the rules. Corell know 577 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 3: this to be true. It's not rumors. Your own quarterback 578 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: slipped up at media Day and said that he saw 579 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: Dorian Singer was having a good game on the other 580 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: side against USC when he played for Arizona and asked 581 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: his coaches to go get that player. What do you 582 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: where's Dorian Singer now? 583 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: Uh at USC catching? 584 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: What happened? Yeah, Jordan Addison was on the pitt roster 585 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: when Adam Brenneman reported that he was going to be 586 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: at USC next. Where did Jordan Addison finish his college career? Oh, 587 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: that's interesting, very interesting. ASU's punter Eric Gentry, Christian Roland Wallace, Marshawn, 588 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: Lloyd Bear, Alexander Do you think that these were all 589 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: black and white transfer portal editions or do you think 590 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: that you had coaches reaching out to players that were 591 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: on other rosters, which. 592 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: Is illegue, Ralph, they would never do that. They would 593 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: never do that, right. 594 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: Guess what? And there's all this media but no one's 595 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: looking into it, and it's because they don't care. Don't 596 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: make them care, correct, do not make them care? Lincoln, 597 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: don't do this. 598 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: I just yep that that's a good line. Don't make 599 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: them care? 600 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you you, Lincoln Riley. You do not want to 601 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 3: live in the black and white world that you were 602 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: trying to create to protect your program. I know you 603 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 3: did this stuff at Oklahoma, you're trying to do it 604 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: here in LA. You got to let something slide because 605 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: if the media was actually doing their job, your whole 606 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: program would be in big, big, big trouble. And I 607 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: don't want your program to be in trouble. I like 608 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: the players are getting paid. I hate that it comes 609 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: at the expense of my school, of University of Arizona, 610 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: of University of Colorado, you know, of all these other programs, 611 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: but it is what it is. Until everybody's on the 612 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 3: same page with nil, you got to kind of color 613 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: outside the lines, and you are coloring outside the lines, 614 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: and everyone knows it. No one's doing anything about it, 615 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: and you should like it to stay there way. 616 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: All right. Now, on to the games. We had a 617 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: bunch of games, some of them non competitive, but it's okay. 618 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: We will get through them. Number one North Carolina Central 619 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: at UCLA. I believe Jarmond UCLA's ad. He went to 620 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 2: North Carolina Central. That's how they got this game. By 621 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: game probably got him a million dollars to come across 622 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: and get smacked up fifty nine to seven. UCLA put 623 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: out a graphic one hundred and one player's play one 624 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: hundred and one hundred and two. However many was that 625 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: means that means everybody on scholarship who was healthy, and 626 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: every walk and likely close to every walk on that 627 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 2: was healthy, played, so pretty much every single healthy player play. 628 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: Jerry new Heizel might have got some snaps. 629 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there were no big stats. There was nothing 630 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: to be gained about Dante Moore. He didn't throw the 631 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: ball to the other team which was and had a 632 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: high completion percentage. That's all you wanted to see. Everybody 633 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: got carries. 634 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: And seven different players score touchdowns. 635 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 2: Yep, and we figured out that Chip Kelly is the 636 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: same as Sean Payton. He has fallen in love with 637 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: his version of Taysom Hill, which is Cooson Yankoff, who 638 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: is returning kicks, running back, playing tight end. This is 639 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: literally Taysom Hill. So I told Ralph I would bet 640 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: a paycheck that he ends up in the NFL. And 641 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't even have the stats or any enough film 642 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: that you He. 643 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Got ten yards of carry against North Carolina Central. 644 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: Listen, Okay, it probably hurt you a little bit. 645 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: More to better paycheck than me, So I'm gonna protect 646 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: you and not take that. 647 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Bet, all right. Next game up Washington at Michigan State. 648 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: Washington's getting no credit for this win, granted the Mel 649 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: Tucker's situation, but I don't think this game would have 650 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: been any different had Meil Tucker been there. I mean, 651 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: if we're being honest, Michael Pennick Jr. Still assaulting the 652 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: record book. Four hundred and seventy three yards, four touchdowns, Roma, Dunze, Dude, 653 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: this team is incredible. Like the amount of yards they 654 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: threw for five thirty because Dylan Morris came in and 655 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: threw the ball some more. Two you had. I'm surprised 656 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: that Dylan Morris is still there, which is which is crazy? 657 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: You have they ran for one hundred and seventy seven 658 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: yards to that what's that six seven hundred yards to 659 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: total offense. 660 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 3: Seven thirteen Yeah, twenty eight first downs. 661 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: And Michigan State looks atrocious. But but this may have 662 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: been It's funny how things happen in sports, because this 663 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: may have been the worst thing that happened to Washington 664 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: was to have Kaitlin de Boord on display at Michigan State. 665 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: Because Michigan State is used to playing run and punt 666 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: offense and thanks to Kenneth Walker, the deep. The offense 667 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: looked really good for a year and it looks atrocious 668 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: right now. Atrocious. So they are going to win a 669 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: big offensive coach, somebody who's going to put big numbers up, 670 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: or at least hire people who are going to put 671 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: big numbers up, because they that's the only way they're 672 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: going to be able to compete against USC, Oregon, Michigan, 673 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: Ohio State. You got to be able to score Penn 674 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: State if you want to be able to win. So 675 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: Michigan State has to put something together or they're going 676 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: to be a middling to you know, they're going to 677 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: be Wisconsin, which I mean is fine for Wisconsin, but 678 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's what Michigan State wants to be, 679 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: especially since they're a powerhouse in basketball. They are, you know, 680 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: like they definitely don't want to be the little brother 681 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: to Michigan. So Kaitlyn de Boor is probably going to 682 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: be on that short list, along with Jonathan Smith. But 683 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: I do believe that Kaitlyn de bor is going to 684 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 2: stay at Washington. He's just going to get a massive raise. 685 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: And Jonathan Smith maybe one of them people that they're 686 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 2: looking at and people will say, George, he's so loyal, 687 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: he'll never leave Morgan. Yes he will. Bro, they're going 688 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 2: to the Mountain West. They're not going to have enough 689 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: money to support the coaching salaries and the escalation. And 690 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: he's got assistant coaches. He's got to be honest with then. 691 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: And if they're paying him, somebody's offered him seven eight 692 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: million dollars a year and an assistant pool of seven 693 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: eight million dollars a year. Bro, he's gone. That means 694 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 2: he can bring assistance with him. He can bring support staff, 695 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: all sorts of people, so everybody levels up. 696 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: I feel like Craig Bowl is one of the highest 697 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: paid coaches in the Mountain West, and I think he 698 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: makes around two million. So that should just go to 699 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: show you the drop off that would happen if three 700 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: years from now, Oregon State has to be part of 701 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: that conference, they're not going to have the funding to 702 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 3: afford Jonathan Smith and his staff anyway. Like I fully 703 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: expect that to be the case, but I also look 704 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: out and it's not Michigan State that I worry about 705 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: for Kaitlyn de Bor. It's the La Chargers and the 706 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. When you put up five hundred and thirty 707 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: eight yards passing. Fine, that's college offense. But when you 708 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: put one hundred and seven ty seven years rushing on 709 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 3: top of it, that's gonna have NFLGM salivating, right, Yeah, 710 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: because your offense works in every possible way. Hey, I 711 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: got a question for you. 712 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: Yep. 713 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: What's the difference between mel Tucker and University of Washington's 714 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: offense on Saturday? 715 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 716 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: University of Washington's offense only spent twenty nine minutes ruining 717 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 3: Michigan State season with the flick of a wrist. Wow, okay, 718 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: so seven minutes is you're all right? 719 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: Utah? Thirty one we were State seven. Utah Nate Johnson 720 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: is clearly their quarterback for right now until Cam Rising 721 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: comes back. I dropped them from, you know, being much 722 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: higher in my poll to twenty because they just look okay, 723 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: And people will say Brent Keithy's out, Cam Rising out, Yes, exactly, 724 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 2: But my pole is fluid. Other people don't have to lose. 725 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: I still think very highly of Utah. Let me get 726 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 2: some good film, put a good game together this week 727 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: with Cam Rising if he's playing, and we're fine. But yeah, 728 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: this this team looks solid, but they don't look special like, 729 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: they don't look like they can beat the upper echelon 730 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: teams in the conference or in the nation with what 731 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 2: they've done well. They beat Florida, they jumped on Florida 732 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 2: early Florida. They were in a hostile environment, new quarterback, 733 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: they didn't respond well. And then you held on for 734 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 2: dear life. You looked you often look stinky booboo against Baylor, 735 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 2: and then the fourth quarter, yeah, and then you because 736 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: of turnovers, and then you beat Weaver State thirty one 737 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 2: to seven. So what are we supposed to make of this? 738 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: So Utah fans, we still love you, We believe the team, 739 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: but we got to see something different because you don't 740 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 2: believe that with Nate Johnson at quarterback and Brent Keathy 741 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: out and the rest of your injuries that that you're 742 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 2: gonna win nine or ten games or win the conference. 743 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: It ain't happening. 744 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, one fourth of the season is over. One fourth 745 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 3: of the season is over. So you can look at 746 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 3: the one fourth of the season that's over judge Utah 747 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: and not based on what they might could do, but 748 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: what they've actually already done. And then with the way 749 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 3: that you do your rankings. I don't undertand why anybody 750 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: would be mad at you if cam Rising comes out 751 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: they torch UCLA and you're like, all right, no, I 752 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: see it now they're top ten because you're not. You're 753 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: not doing your rankings based on like you know, prior 754 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 3: bias or anything like that, or you're not you're not 755 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: trying to prove yourself right, You're just judging what you've seen. 756 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 3: I totally understand that they ground Weaver State to dust. 757 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 3: They're happy to do that. They don't care. They very 758 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 3: much just see a W as a W. But eventually 759 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 3: that type of stuff comes back to bite you if 760 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: you if you can't because there's teams in this conference 761 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: that are gonna score on even Utah's defense, Yes, you're 762 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to be able to keep up. You can't 763 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: depend on what happening. It's Baylor or Weaver State, some 764 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 3: team somewhere is going to score on you and you're 765 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: going to have to keep up. And when that might 766 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 3: happen this. 767 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 2: Week yep, yep, one hundred percent. Now on to the 768 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: next game. Northern Colorado and Washington Washington State, excuse me, 769 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: Washington State sixty four. Northern Colorado twenty one. Cam Ward 770 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: looked amazing twenty for twenty six for three, twenty four 771 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 2: four touchdowns. He looks so much better than he did 772 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: last year, so so much better, and their defense is 773 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: still doing a pretty good job. I am cautiously optimistic 774 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: about this team. I've moved up significantly and well we 775 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: moved them up significantly in the PAC twelve Power rankings, 776 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 2: and now they got to go go and show it 777 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: this week and in the coming weeks. 778 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think every uh. And You've made fun of 779 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: me plenty for for this in the time that we've 780 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 3: known each other. But I tend to adopt a quarterback 781 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 3: before they've shown that they they can compete at the 782 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 3: highest level. Yes, and then no matter what, I'm right 783 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: or die with them. And I feel that way about 784 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: cam Ward. We we really really highlighted the issues that 785 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 3: he had last year. They were they were very easy 786 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 3: to point out. He's just off schedule all the time, 787 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: but you could you could see it. If he could 788 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: fix those things that then then he might be an 789 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: NFL caliber quarterback. I feel like he is proving that 790 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 3: right now. He's got he's got the size, he's got 791 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 3: the arm, he's got the mobility and it feels like 792 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 3: he can he can run a complicated offense. And Washington 793 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 3: State's defense is legit. And I know that this is 794 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 3: northern Colorado and shout out to their quarterback's former University 795 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 3: of Washington quarterback. It is it. It's not jacob Servon, 796 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 3: that's the no. 797 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, right, yes, correct. 798 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but so they got the former Washington quarterback. They're 799 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 3: not terrible, and they did score a couple of times. 800 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: But I Washington State did exactly what they're supposed to 801 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 3: do in this game. I think they're at forty three 802 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: to seven at half time. Cam Woard looks great, running back, 803 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 3: running game looks a little better, and to me, the 804 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 3: defense looks solid. It has me very excited about about 805 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: the game coming up this weekend and makes me think 806 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: they should be the favorite. 807 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: Hmm hey, that that is interesting as well. All right, 808 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: we got we have Oregon State and San Diego State. 809 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: Oregon State twenty six, San Diego State nine dj Uyangalle 810 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty four yards, one touchdown, two picks. 811 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 2: Are are we concerned about this at all? 812 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 3: I part of me wants to chalk it up to 813 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 3: a bad day, but his bad day looked a lot 814 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 3: like his first three years at Clemson, very low percentage. 815 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 3: It felt like they just really wanted to get the 816 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 3: passing game going, so they were kind of forcing it 817 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 3: all game long. The running game was working San Diego State, 818 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 3: Like the score doesn't reflect how down bad they were. 819 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 3: It just felt like they wanted to get him going 820 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 3: in this game. I think San Diego State's got a 821 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 3: good coaching staff that three games in knows that they're 822 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: not what they usually are. They're not the Boogeyman anymore, 823 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 3: but they do have the ability to make some adjustments 824 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 3: on defense. They are talented enough to gum up the 825 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 3: works a little bit. I want to say no, but 826 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: we have this three year history at Clemson. You know him, 827 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 3: you know the family, Like, what are your feelings on this? 828 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 2: I believe that the kid is. 829 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: Good. 830 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think he's like generational or great. I think 831 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: he's a really good quarterback, like a college quarterback that 832 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: he has that Oregon State as much better off this 833 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: year with DJ at quarterback than they were last year 834 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: at quarterback. Yeah, I don't think he's a you know, 835 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: a potential high draft pick like his like his brother Matteo, 836 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: who is at Oregon kid is there comparing him to 837 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: to Keevon Thibodeaux. So he is absolutely amazing. But at 838 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: the same time, I think that you know that there's 839 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: a ceiling to it, and there are levels, like he's 840 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: not Trevor Lawrence, he's not Deshaun Watson, but that doesn't 841 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: mean that he's not a good quarterback and you can't 842 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: win with him. 843 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 3: They're sure running the ball well over there, though, I mean, 844 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 3: I yes, and I know they don't want to be 845 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 3: that team anymore. They don't want to be that team 846 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 3: that like our quarterback struggles, so we have to like 847 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 3: set him up for success to only throw in third 848 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: and short situations and whatnot. But at some point you 849 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 3: just got to do what it takes to win. We're 850 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 3: gonna find out. We're gonna find out that they won 851 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 3: this game. He was responsible for two touchdowns that he 852 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: ran for one through for one. It's not like he 853 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 3: hurt them. He just didn't have a good game. Not 854 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 3: every game is gonna be great unless I guess you're 855 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix or Bonnicks who never gets sacked ever. 856 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, never never gets sacked. It's easy to play quarterback 857 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: when nobody's touching you. But only I do like that 858 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 2: the defense held San Diego State to nine points because 859 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: this is not a good football team offensively, but only 860 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: scoring twenty six points a little bit of a concern, 861 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: all right. Colorado State, Colorado Colorado forty three, double overtime, 862 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: Colorado State thirty five. I thought we learned even more 863 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 2: about Shador Sanders, the dude. He keeps coming up aces. 864 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: Came up aces in the clutch against TCU, came up 865 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: aces again when it mattered the most against Colorado State. 866 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 2: And people are pointing to because I said that I 867 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: believe that he could rival Caleb Williams for the number 868 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: one overall pick. Talk to two NFL coaches I'm sorry, scouts, 869 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 2: and an NFL coach. They all said, listen, you're you're 870 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 2: not wrong about their potential NFL future. But Caleb is 871 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: probably still going number number one no matter what happens. 872 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 2: But that Caleb, but that if they were betting their 873 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 2: career on a player, they would go with Shadur because 874 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: they think that the floor is higher, even though caleb 875 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 2: seiling may be a little bit higher, that the floor 876 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: is higher with shauduur. 877 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: Are these imaginary friends? 878 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: No, they're not imaginary friends, They're real friends. 879 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Bro. 880 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: Okay was making sure you you didn't have one of 881 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 3: the hottest hot takes I've ever seen in my life 882 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 3: on Twitter, and then I had to go to the council. 883 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand what is what is hot takey about that? 884 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is going to be the number one pick 885 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 3: if he comes out, has a press conference tomorrow and 886 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 3: says that he's giving up football for ice skating. 887 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? 888 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 3: Bro? What is wrong with me? The Cardinals were up 889 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 3: twenty eight to seven late in the third, remembered Caleb 890 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 3: Williams exists and lost to the Giants. Like this is 891 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 3: this is this is uh, this is a tank of 892 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 3: thought like it's happening in the NFL. And Week one, 893 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 3: I've never seen this before. I've never seen I've never 894 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: seen somebody go into Week one being like, oh man, 895 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 3: we could either get Caleb or like whatever trade Hall 896 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 3: would would would give us the most to trade off 897 00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 3: this pick for Caleb. 898 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 2: Hey, and if if you notice, Kyler put out a 899 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: video he's working out, he's looking he's he's looking good, buddy, 900 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 2: so you better watch out watch it, y'all. Everybody better 901 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: watch their mouth about Caleb Williams right now. I mean 902 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: about Kyler Murray because he ain't playing around with y'all 903 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: fools right now. 904 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: What's that saying though, Like if they if they cheat 905 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: with you, don't be surprised if they cheat on you. Yes, 906 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 3: then the Cardinals draft Kyler Murray when they had picked 907 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 3: the first round of the previous year in the top ten. 908 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, they did. 909 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 3: I'm not saying as a Cardinals fan, I want that 910 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 3: I think it's time to move on from Kyler Murray. 911 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying we could sure get him a lot of 912 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 3: help if we had the number one and number two 913 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: pick and let's play two quarterback offense. Let's do it. 914 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm I don't know that. 915 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 3: I just I think Caleb Willams gonna be the number 916 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: one pick no matter what. I understand what you're saying. 917 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: And Shaduur has looked incredible. We're gonna find out more 918 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 3: about him on Saturday. But he he does, he has 919 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 3: it all. He really has it all. But people are 920 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: so ingrained in this like and I know that there's 921 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 3: been years where like people went in thinking Brian bram 922 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 3: was gonna be the number one pick and then he 923 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 3: was like a sixth rounder. But that's not this. Kayleb 924 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 3: Williams won the Heisman and then all he's done is 925 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 3: prove it, prove it, prove it. And he's probably gonna 926 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 3: prove it again at Arizona State on Saturday. You know, 927 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 3: he's he's been nothing short of perfect. He's been almost 928 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 3: perfect as a quarterback. The big complaint about him is 929 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 3: that maybe he holds onto it a little bit too 930 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 3: much sometimes, that's the biggest complaint. Like I don't see 931 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 3: anybody eclipsing him, So that's why it felt hot taking 932 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 3: of me. But I see, I see what you're saying. 933 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 3: I just refuse to acknowledge that it's based in reality 934 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 3: at all. 935 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, all right, well and all right 936 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: we have well Colorado still they got to get there. 937 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: They rushing game together, they got to get their rushing 938 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 2: defense together, and. 939 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 3: They can't play man coverage apparently. 940 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 2: And they have to tackle people. 941 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 3: Like so you know, Colorado State had thirty five receptions 942 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 3: spread out amongst four players. Yeah, have you ever seen 943 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 3: a stat like that? 944 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 2: No? Nope, nope, no, absolutely not. That is outrageous. 945 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, man, coverage is tough. Can't stop the run, 946 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 3: can't uh can't run the ball. I don't know. Now 947 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm talking myself into Shador being Superman. 948 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, brother, all right, Idaho at Cal. First of all, 949 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 2: Cow trying to change their name to like Cal Berkeley. 950 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: That's a whole nother Cow conversation for another day, which 951 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 2: is annoying. But Idaho was up in this game seventeen 952 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 2: to fourteen at halftime. They were up ten to nothing 953 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 2: after the first This looked a little bit scary, Ralph, 954 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: this looked a little bit scary because Cow's offense is 955 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,720 Speaker 2: still not doing the things that you would have thought 956 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 2: and would have expected. Because we were all excited after that, 957 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: Oh was that fifty five points and fifty eight versus 958 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,240 Speaker 2: North Texas and week one and then in against Auburn 959 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 2: had come back and scored ten points against Auburn ten. 960 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 3: But then that one was tough because it's like, oh, 961 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 3: they missed like thirty four field goals in one quarter, 962 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 3: so should they have actually scored fifty plus two weeks 963 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 3: in a row? You know, this game was scary, Yeah, 964 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 3: because it was late in the second quarter, seventeen to nothing. 965 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: No Jade and not Sam Jackson didn't look like he 966 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 3: had any comfortability back there. He got hurt for a minute. 967 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 3: Ben Finley came in, but a fonse They're running back 968 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 3: who I tried to hype up in Week one. Then 969 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 3: he had a bad Week two. He's a tough, tough 970 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 3: runner and they ultimately they ended up wearing down an 971 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 3: FCS team. They scored I think on two straight possessions 972 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 3: at the end of the second quarter and then came 973 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,479 Speaker 3: out dominated the third and that was all they needed. 974 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 3: They won thirty one seventeen. But Idaho was out there 975 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 3: playing with swag, and like cal fans that came out 976 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 3: to the game were witnessing themselves being down seventeen to 977 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 3: nothing late to an FCS team that really played with 978 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: a lot of guts and is very, very talented. And 979 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 3: I know you saw Hayden Hatten out there and put 980 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 3: him on. 981 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: I don't know where he's gonna play next next season though, 982 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Where's Hayden hadden't going going to play? 983 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 2: Because the kid is an absolute dog. Let's pay per 984 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 2: rock scissors for him exactly. Next game up Sacramento State 985 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 2: Stanford Ralph. This was a sad This was Stanford being 986 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 2: last year's Pack twelve, not this year's Pack twelve losing 987 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 2: to Sacramento State. This is actually this is like two 988 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 2: years ago Washington losing to Montana, you know, BYU and 989 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 2: San Diego State just tearing the conference apart, and now 990 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 2: Sacramento State, Troy Taylor's old team is on the schedule 991 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: and they serve him up as a big sky l 992 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,879 Speaker 2: thirty to twenty three. 993 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 3: I had three four takeaways from this game. Number one 994 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 3: is Cayden Bennett is a dude. The gutsy performance, played hurt, 995 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: beat them hurt. The other thing is Stanford's linebackers are 996 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 3: maybe the most unathletic I've ever seen in this conference. 997 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 3: Anybody that's running crossing routes or any any running back 998 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 3: that gets to the second level, like it's just gonna 999 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 3: it's gonna be messy. The other thing is Stanford played 1000 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 3: for a played for a field goal down twenty to seventeen, 1001 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 3: Like they ran the ball on third and nine late 1002 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 3: in the game, and it was like right then where 1003 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I don't know if they want 1004 00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 3: to win, and yeah, I don't know. I mean I 1005 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 3: could go on and on and on. This was embarrassing. 1006 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 3: You don't want to make excuses against an FCS team, 1007 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 3: but the final play of the game was a pass 1008 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 3: interference that went uncalled. Should have been called. 1009 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: But you can't even be in that position versus an FCS. 1010 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. And 1011 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 3: the five or six Stanford fans that were still there 1012 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 3: at the end of the game to complain about it, 1013 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 3: they have a legitimate complaint. But at the same time, 1014 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 3: how were you in that position? 1015 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, nobody wants to hear about your bad 1016 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 2: call because they were like, well, you shouldn't have been 1017 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 2: in that spot anyway against Sacramento State, So nobody's gonna 1018 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: feel sorry for him. They have a long season ahead 1019 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 2: of him, brother, they have a long season. Yeah, I 1020 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 2: only them struggling to find wins. 1021 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh, me too. And the only thing that is going 1022 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 3: to help them in the future is that they're still Stanford, 1023 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 3: because if they came to you or me and said 1024 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 3: we want your kid to play here, we might take 1025 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 3: the pen out of their hand and sign the document. 1026 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 2: So they've already played usc who's ranked right, they still 1027 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 2: have Oregon Colorado, UCLA, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State, and 1028 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. That sty still have seven ranked teams left. 1029 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, and they're thin anyway, so I could 1030 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 3: say maybe they could sneak up and win one, but 1031 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 3: by the end of the season, when they're even more 1032 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 3: depleted than they are now, I don't know. It's gonna 1033 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: be a long year. And they've already made a change 1034 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 3: at quarterback. 1035 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 2: At least for now. I mean, it didn't go well, 1036 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 2: so I don't know who's gonna start. They're still searching. Yeah, 1037 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 2: and with the transfer portal, they can't even remake this 1038 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 2: team quickly. 1039 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:57,959 Speaker 3: I can't. 1040 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: You could hire Nick Saban and they would still be 1041 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: in the same spot because you can't get kids in school, 1042 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: can't get transfers in maybe one, maybe two a year. 1043 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: Maybe Bro, this is this is a five six year 1044 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 2: fix if it can be fixed. But them joining the 1045 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: ACC hopefully that that does something, all right. Hawaii Utah 1046 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 2: fifty five to ten, Hawaii organ Yeah, Hawaii Oregon fifty 1047 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 2: five to ten. Bo Nixon crew showed up played extremely well. 1048 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 2: Both the Hawaii's points came off of penalties, which after 1049 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: they got a stop then there was a penalty. It 1050 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: was just I'm mad about the ten points. But this 1051 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: Oregon team there, why are you last? 1052 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 3: I would have loved to score ten points this weekend. 1053 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 2: Listen this this team is gonna get a test this 1054 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: week against Dion and we'll talk about that in a minute. 1055 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, Ty Thompson, Yes, Ty Thompson looks confident. 1056 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 2: He looks like he looks like he got some energy 1057 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,919 Speaker 2: around him. I'm like, okay, okay, he's not just out 1058 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 2: there right now. I like it. I like it all right. 1059 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Fresno State, Arizona State. We'll save this for next to 1060 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: last because the way we can't go on it too long. Okay, 1061 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: twenty nine The awkward thought of twenty nine to zero 1062 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 2: eight turnovers, eight turnovers. So that means that we have 1063 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 2: to salute the Arizona State defense because to get to 1064 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 2: give up eight turnovers and only give up twenty nine points. 1065 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Brobo, they didn't ball out. They did ball out. 1066 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: They should have lost by seventy. Imagine if they give up. 1067 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Imagine if you give up eight turnovers to Washington or 1068 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 2: USC or Oregon, how's that gonna work? 1069 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 3: They does a scoreboard have three digits? 1070 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 1071 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if you might find out, I don't know. 1072 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 3: I Roe Torrance is an NFL player. Bj Green one 1073 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 3: of the quickest defensive linemen I've ever seen. Jordan Clark 1074 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 3: bawled out, Chris Edmonds bawled out that they've got a 1075 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 3: very good defense and it's gonna be completely wasted this year. 1076 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 3: And on top of that, there was a ninth almost turnover, 1077 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 3: a fumble that Trenton Borgay tried to pick up and 1078 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 3: get rid of, and in the process of picking it up, 1079 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 3: turns his ankle, and then Drew Pine comes in, turns 1080 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 3: the ball over four times, gets hurt. And then Jacob Connver, 1081 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,479 Speaker 3: the fourth string who doesn't get reps in practice, comes 1082 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 3: out at the very end of the game throws an 1083 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 3: interception of his own. It was the ugliest offensive performance 1084 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: of I've ever seen. It was like the first time 1085 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 3: as he's been shut out at home since like the 1086 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 3: late eighties. And now Kenny Dillingham wants to take over 1087 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 3: play calling three weeks into his tenure. 1088 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Dude Carman was like Cartman's tweet. He was like, so 1089 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 2: you told me it was the worst that you had seen, 1090 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 2: And then Cartman was basically just like hands in his head, 1091 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 2: and he was just like, I don't know, there's no 1092 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 2: words for what we just witnessed. And I've never been 1093 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 2: that low before. But so I can't sympathize with you. 1094 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 3: But I congratulations. 1095 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Oregon's that down in the dumps was like 1096 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 2: one year where they won four or five games and 1097 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 2: then I mean, because they've only had since I got 1098 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 2: there in ninety nine, I think only two losing seasons 1099 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 2: mm or three. 1100 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 3: Maybe it sounds nice, so fun. 1101 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 2: But like double digit but double digit, double digit win 1102 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 2: seasons and to national championship appearances. Yeah, a lot of. 1103 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 3: Okay, you're in a I didn't realize you're an accountant. 1104 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 2: And and and a bunch of New Year's six bowls 1105 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 2: and wins. So yeah, I was. 1106 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 3: Just it's nice that you even get to count. I can't. 1107 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: I got to count to zero, zero. 1108 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: And zero National championship. 1109 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 3: Is it really for Kenny Denhand to be yanking play 1110 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 3: calling duties back? Yes, Yes, feels like a nervous action 1111 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 3: to me. 1112 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 2: It does because of the amount of injuries, because the 1113 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 2: quarterback situation, the like, yeah, I'm not sure, I mean, 1114 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: but I guess he's gonna be like, I'm gonna show 1115 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 2: y'all how to do it, and if if it looks 1116 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 2: bad again, he might be like, hey see, I was tripping. 1117 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: That's my bad. 1118 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 3: I worry because that the famous phrase of it, and 1119 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: it's a man thing. It's not a woman thing at all. 1120 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 3: But like the famous phrase before most men like really 1121 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 3: get humbled is watch this, watch this, And I feel 1122 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 3: like this is a watch this moment. So hopefully they 1123 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 3: can put points on the board against USC. 1124 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but taking his play calling duties that means you 1125 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 2: have to fire him after the season. 1126 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh that's rough. Yeah, and it looks like Jane rashins 1127 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 3: out for a long time. 1128 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 2: I think Kenny is he's hoping for microwave results where 1129 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 2: there are none to be found. I think he expected 1130 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 2: better at this point, but it's clearly not there. 1131 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 3: I think he's preaching patience and he's preaching culture, but 1132 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 3: the best preachers are preaching to themselves. And he speaks 1133 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 3: with a lot of passion. You can tell he's trying 1134 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 3: to convince himself that this might take a little longer 1135 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 3: than anticipated. God, we should move on to something else. 1136 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, Arizona Utip, You damn dirty Wildcats. 1137 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 3: Only your only loss of the season on your on 1138 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 3: your picks against the spread so far. 1139 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 2: Yes, only lost. Good job, fellas good job, but actually 1140 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 2: good job though Jaden delord Dial turned the ball over. 1141 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 2: But I should have known this because so they won 1142 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 2: by twenty one. It was a seventeen and a half 1143 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 2: point spread. I should have known that after the debacle 1144 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 2: that was the Mississippi State game, that he was going 1145 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 2: to bounce back. I love t Mac and not this 1146 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 2: upcoming draft, but the following draft people will be saying, Yo, 1147 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 2: who is this team Mac McMillan, kid out of Arizona. 1148 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 2: Why is he projected as a potential first rounder or 1149 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: second rounder? 1150 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 3: Why? 1151 01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: And then because nobody's watching, but everybody will find out 1152 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 2: because he's an absolute savage. 1153 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 3: He's got the body of a high jumper. He doesn't 1154 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 3: look the part at all. But then you get him 1155 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 3: out on the field, no one can cover him. It's crazy. 1156 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely, And if you notice, they're they're starting to 1157 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 2: get Noah Fafida in the game a little bit more. 1158 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see that. 1159 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Just I want to give a just in case, just 1160 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 2: in case, he has a blow up game. They listen 1161 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 2: another one of them four turnover games. You will see 1162 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 2: Noah come in. 1163 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 3: It just sucks that you have to wait to see 1164 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 3: that happen because once you're there, it's too late. Right. 1165 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 2: But well, Jane's a good starter, so you can't like 1166 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 2: just just be just yanking him out because yes he's 1167 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: j R. Smith. 1168 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 3: Uh. I want to give a shout out to Martel Irbie. 1169 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 3: He like retired from football at U c l A. 1170 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 3: I think something to do with mental health reasons. And 1171 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 3: now he's like one of the highest graded corners in 1172 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 3: the whole PAC twelve this year and looks really good 1173 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 3: for the University of Arizona. So it's I love a 1174 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 3: comeback story, and I think that's a really really good one. 1175 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 2: All right, Well it is time for our PAC twelve 1176 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Power rankings because I well, well it was my turn 1177 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 2: this week to send out the rankings, and just so 1178 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 2: you know, we sent I'll make the rankings. Ralph has 1179 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 2: the opportunity to make two corrections, and then after his 1180 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 2: two corrections, I can make two corrections then if I want, 1181 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 2: and then those are our consensus rankings. Well, last week 1182 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 2: he did it perfectly. He went first and third, but 1183 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 2: there was no need to go third because he got 1184 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 2: it right, and this week, same thing. I sent it 1185 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 2: to him and then he sent back a quote. Here's 1186 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 2: what he said to quote Tupac. I see no changes 1187 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 2: to also quote Tupac as an ASU grad. Wake up 1188 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,959 Speaker 2: in the morning, and I asked myself, it's life worth living? 1189 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 2: And should I blast myself? It's bad, bro, I was. 1190 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 3: I was in my feelings, all right, what are the rankings? 1191 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Number one the Washington Huskies, so you know they must 1192 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 2: be freaking good if and plant and deserving of that 1193 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 2: because I'm an honest man. Number two the USC Trojans, three, 1194 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks, four, Washington State, five, Oregon State, six, Colorado seven, Ucla, eight, Utah, nine, 1195 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 2: Arizona ten Cow eleven Arizona State, and twelve Stanford. And 1196 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 2: uh and yeah, rankings were really good this week, Ralph. 1197 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve, thirteen Stanford. 1198 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 2: And I know that Utah people are like number eight. 1199 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: We already explained to you why. But you can jump 1200 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 2: back up in the top three if you do, if 1201 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 2: you do your job over the next week or two. 1202 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 2: If Cam Rai is back, or Nate Johnson just all 1203 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden looks like Cam rising. 1204 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 3: But difference between eight and one isn't that much either. 1205 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 2: No, no, this is the tightest thing ever. 1206 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 3: Eight could beat one. It's feasible full strength for sure. 1207 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, all right, number Now on to this week. 1208 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 2: This week the action starts. We got one, two, three, 1209 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 2: three games against ranked opponents. So this is the time 1210 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 2: when the comp when the the AP poll voters can 1211 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 2: can do their thing where they can start snaking the 1212 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 2: back twelve for all of these ranked games. Okay, So 1213 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 2: first game up, twelve thirty UCLA at Utah. Dante Morgants 1214 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 2: his first hostile experience and he's going to rice Eco Stadium. 1215 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 2: Utah's favored by six points and it I was three 1216 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 2: and a half, yep, and now it's fifty two and 1217 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 2: a half over under the I believe that Utah being 1218 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 2: favored by six points means that Cam Rising is absolutely playing. 1219 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 2: So I am going to take It's not saying more, 1220 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 2: gonna throw a bunch of picks in this game. 1221 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 3: I this is one of the things I'm most excited 1222 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 3: to see. Actually, how's he going to handle Rice Echos. 1223 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 3: He hasn't been in an unfriendly and he's. 1224 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Only been at home. Yeah, yeah, all right, give me 1225 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 2: the over because that gives them both like if they 1226 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 2: if it's twenty seven, oh, twenty seven to twenty four 1227 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 2: is a loss, twenty eight to twenty four is a loss. Still, 1228 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm still taking it over and I am going to 1229 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 2: go with the Utah utes. 1230 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I think a one touchdown win is fair. 1231 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. 1232 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't love it though. If Dante Moore was a sophomore, 1233 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 2: I would probably that. Yeah, I'd probably take UCLA in 1234 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 2: this game. 1235 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm I'm all about if cam Rising is healthy. I 1236 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 3: think they are more than a one touchdown favorite. I 1237 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 3: think it could be a ten point game. But there's 1238 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 3: nothing about Utah's defense so far that has shown me 1239 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 3: that they can give up even like a in three 1240 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 3: touchdowns in a game, So thirty to twenty would be 1241 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 3: an under. I'm gonna take Utah on the under. 1242 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, all right, give now. Next game up, Colorado Oregon. 1243 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 2: Oregon is favored by twenty one points and the spread 1244 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 2: has been all wrong versus with Colorado all year and 1245 01:11:54,920 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 2: all their three games over under sixty nine. There's gonna 1246 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 2: be fine in Eugene. Give me the over. Wait, actually, 1247 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 2: so if Oregon scores fifty and they score twenty. That's 1248 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 2: a win. All right, give me the over, yep, give 1249 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 2: me the over and give me Colorado. Twenty one is 1250 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 2: just a lot of points. 1251 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 3: I like forty nine twenty eight Oregon. No, Travis Hunter, 1252 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 3: who that give? Would be? 1253 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Push? 1254 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 3: Would it? 1255 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1256 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,759 Speaker 3: Forty nine to twenty one. The over. Runner's not sixty 1257 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 3: nine and a half, it's seventy. 1258 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 2: No, it's sixty nine. It's sixty nine on the dot. 1259 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 2: So I am going to take the over and Colorado 1260 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 2: because I don't want them to get blown out. I 1261 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 2: want them to lose by like two touchdowns. I don't 1262 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 2: want them to lose by like six. 1263 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going forty nine twenty eight. I think that's 1264 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 3: seventy seven. So that's the over, and that's Oregon cover 1265 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 3: as well. 1266 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 2: Forty nine to twenty eight. Oh yes, yes, that is 1267 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:13,719 Speaker 2: definitely an over and a cover, all right, USC Arizona State. 1268 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,679 Speaker 2: USC's favored by thirty ninety thirty four and a half points, 1269 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,560 Speaker 2: and they over under his sixty two and a half. Oh, 1270 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 2: this team scored a donut last week. I mean, there's 1271 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 2: no way that this defense is better than the defense 1272 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 2: last I mean that last week's defense is better than 1273 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 2: this defense, so hope. I mean, the quarterbacks did practice 1274 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 2: last week. They don't know who it's gonna be. 1275 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,759 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Drew Pine. To be fair 1276 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 3: to Drew Pine, who had the worst game I've ever 1277 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 3: seen in my life. He did throw for three hundred 1278 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 3: yards three touchdowns against USC last year at Notre Dame. 1279 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So then in that case, give me the over 1280 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,080 Speaker 2: and give me. Arizona State brought us too many points 1281 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 2: for me. There's too many points. I can't I can't 1282 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 2: do it. I can't do it. They got to at 1283 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 2: least score two touchdowns, which will put which means that 1284 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 2: USC has to at least score forty nine points for 1285 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 2: me to lose forty nine to fourteen. Damn, that could 1286 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 2: really happen. 1287 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 3: God, I think we're looking at forty one to fourteen USC. 1288 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 3: So that's going to be Arizona State in the under. 1289 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yep, Arizona State in the under for me too. 1290 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:39,639 Speaker 2: Oregon State at Washington State. Oregon State's favored by three points. Sorry, Beefs, 1291 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 2: Sorry Beefs, your your pack. Two people are going to 1292 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 2: be the ones to give you your first l this 1293 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 2: week give me the Coogs. The Koogs coo g s 1294 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 2: and so the over under is fifty eight and a half. 1295 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 3: I will take the under. I am well, I'm with 1296 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 3: you again. This is great, great minds, I guess. But 1297 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 3: Makaiah Tongue is out for the season for Oregon State. 1298 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: He's a wide receiver turn linebacker, very very talented. I 1299 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna hurt their defense in the long term, 1300 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 3: but I do think it'll be enough this week. Like 1301 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 3: with cam Ward, cam Ward is again, I imprint on 1302 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 3: a quarterback every year, so you're gonna hear his name 1303 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,679 Speaker 3: a bunch this cam Ward Legacy game. 1304 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, well listen, Yes, it definitely would be 1305 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 2: the knockoff number fourteen. That'd be major after he had 1306 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 2: a chance to knockoff Oregon last year and couldn't I 1307 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 2: do it. Arizona Stanford, Dude, if you had told me 1308 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 2: prior to the season that Arizona would be favored, actually 1309 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: even a year ago, that Arizona would be favored in 1310 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 2: a Pac twelve game by twelve and a half points, 1311 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 2: where you know the team wasn't just decimated with injuries, 1312 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 2: I would have laughed in your face. But they are 1313 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 2: twelve and a half favorites point favorites at Stanford and 1314 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 2: Jaden Delora has eight touchdowns five picks on the year 1315 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 2: in the three games. He was great last game. He 1316 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 2: can't throw the ball away this game. He can't do it. 1317 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 2: He can't, he can't, he can't. So give me Arizona 1318 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 2: minus twelve and a half. But I'm going to take 1319 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 2: the under at sixty one. 1320 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Uh what's the sound of the air hoorn? The lot 1321 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 3: of the week. I I'm fresh off of watching that 1322 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 3: Stanford game, so I would take this if it was 1323 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 3: double taking it twenty four twenty five. I think Arizona's 1324 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 3: going to kill Stanford. I think it's going to be 1325 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 3: ugly that. Like I said, they're just super unathletic, and 1326 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 3: Stanford has to run the ball to be effective. We 1327 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 3: just watched Mississippi stru do that. 1328 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't run the ball. 1329 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 3: Right, and that they they've had. They had some success 1330 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 3: running off left tackle, but they were down like forty 1331 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 3: at the time doing it against against USC. 1332 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 2: So then they're playing soft coverage and all of that. 1333 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take the under. I think 1334 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 3: it's like forty to ten or something. Like that. I 1335 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a huge Wildcats win. 1336 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 2: All right. Last game up Cal at Washington. Washington is 1337 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 2: twenty and a half point favorites over under fifty nine. 1338 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Washington might score all fifty nine points. I'm taking Washington 1339 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 2: minus twenty and a half and the over. 1340 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't love the over because Cal might be 1341 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 3: able to eat up some yards. I haven't really seen 1342 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 3: anybody try to really run the ball against Washington, so 1343 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,839 Speaker 3: I'm guessing that Cal will be able to do something 1344 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 3: with ot because he'll be back this week and a fonse. 1345 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 3: They say they don't know who they're playing at quarterback, 1346 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 3: but you have to figure it's Sam Jackson since he 1347 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:56,679 Speaker 3: can actually run. 1348 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't land any to pretty much all the 1349 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 2: reps in the last game. 1350 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty and a half is so many points for 1351 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,679 Speaker 3: two teams that always have weird games against each other. 1352 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 3: So to be contrarian, I will go Cal and the under. 1353 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that I think it will be close. 1354 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,560 Speaker 3: I just think it's going to be a weird. 1355 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 2: Game, all right. And now the last time we got 1356 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 2: is our PAC twelve Player of the Week, and uh, 1357 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 2: I think I'm winning here. 1358 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 3: Ralph yeah, you're up four to nothing. You took the 1359 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 3: cheap point last week with Michael Pennix, who you can't 1360 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 3: use again for the rest of the season. And the 1361 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 3: rules for this are, if we each put a player 1362 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 3: out there, whoever is the better week. If it's a quarterback, 1363 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 3: you get one point. Position player you get too, if 1364 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 3: it's a defensive player you get three. You are up 1365 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 3: four to nothing, And because you won last week, that 1366 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 3: means I get to pick right. Yes, okay, well I 1367 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't even have to think about this Bucky Irving against 1368 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 3: Colorado because I need to come back. I can't be 1369 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,160 Speaker 3: using quarterbacks to get cheap points yet, I'll start because 1370 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 3: you you wasted Caleb Williams, you wasted Michael Pennix, and 1371 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:06,879 Speaker 3: you a wait. 1372 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 2: Wait, I used Caleb Williams already in your first week. 1373 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 2: Isn't that how you went up one nothing? I might 1374 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 2: have wait no, wait, wait, wait wait wait who did 1375 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 2: I use? 1376 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 3: I use? I had t Mac. I can go back 1377 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 3: and check, but I think you've already burnt. 1378 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 2: It's still got Nicks, yes, bro, I still got I 1379 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 2: still got plenty of layofs, buddy. But you know who 1380 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm taking this week? Who I'm taking t Mac. All right, 1381 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 2: that's the first effort. That's the first repeat receiver. Because 1382 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 2: we both took Damien Martinez. You won with him, I 1383 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 2: lost with him, Thanks Damien. So I'm gonna get so mad. 1384 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be one of those people that sends like 1385 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 3: hateful messages in people's MS, the fantasy players or whatever. 1386 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey on T MAC. I need you to come through, brother, 1387 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 2: need you to come through, because if you come through 1388 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 2: this weekend, I go up five and. 1389 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,799 Speaker 3: Oho, you'd be six. If you say yes, six. 1390 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,600 Speaker 2: Bro, you you will be in a hole of holes 1391 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 2: like you will be. 1392 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 3: I just love the idea of you rooting against Bucky Irving. 1393 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not gonna be rooting against him. 1394 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:20,759 Speaker 3: I will. 1395 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 2: I just want him to have a great game. Well actually, 1396 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 2: but I just want the I want Bucky Irving to 1397 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 2: have a fantastic game, but I want T Mac to 1398 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 2: have an incredible game. 1399 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 3: I'm imagining you like Bucky Irving breaks a run down 1400 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 3: the sideline, trips and falls at the one and on 1401 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 3: the next play, Bonick sneaks it in and you're like. 1402 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't bad. I mean, but then we may have 1403 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 2: to judge like which one is better one hundred and 1404 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 2: eighty yards no touchdowns, or like in dominant play, or 1405 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 2: like nine catches for ninety eight yards and two touchdowns. 1406 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we might have to be like PPR Fantasy Stats 1407 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 3: on this thing to figure out. 1408 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 2: To figure out, it'll probably be obvious. And you, guys, 1409 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 2: though it is obvious, it is quitting time here on 1410 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: the pack twelve apostles. You guys, keep it locked, send 1411 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 2: your emails, tweet us, and leave a five star review. Thanks, 1412 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 2: peace out, Catch you guys later