Speaker 1: Welcome to Nerdificent I am would have of your host
Speaker 1: and Fernandez, and sitting across from me is my co
Speaker 1: host who is currently eating. So I can say your
Speaker 1: name if you Watty Way. Oh no, you know, I
Speaker 1: was just going to show him down, your boy chomping
Speaker 1: down on a choice to choice to choice to a
Speaker 1: toaster Strudle world that I'm trying to say toaster strufuse
Speaker 1: the words together, but you know, hey, where my t
Speaker 1: Strudal said at. Oh no, you're it's pop tarts, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's that great debate. It's the
Speaker 1: Great debate. It's a marvel deep c It's toaster Struddle's
Speaker 1: pop tarts. It's looks like those um was it those
Speaker 1: pastry Ravuli Yeah, Pastry raul. Look, I'm weird, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was, but I think it was
Speaker 1: Carl's Jr. Had a pop Tart ice cream sandwich and
Speaker 1: it was like two pieces of pop tart and an
Speaker 1: ice cream in the middle. Anyways, we are joined up
Speaker 1: top by a host of fangirling on nerd as she
Speaker 1: is also we asked her because she is one of
Speaker 1: the hosts of d C Daily. It is our girl,
Speaker 1: Marquisa McCarty, Hey, yeah, thanks so much for having me,
Speaker 1: and uh for people that do that pop tart versus
Speaker 1: revul thing, which is a real thing. Damn on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, look at the pop Tarts Twitter and you'll
Speaker 1: see people sending them pictures of revel. Oh the shade, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the shade, poor pop You know they're doing fine. College kids, parents,
Speaker 1: busy parents, they're hanging in. I mean the edge pop
Speaker 1: Tarts has over Toast Shroudles is that you can have
Speaker 1: them at any temperature. You know, there's there's too much
Speaker 1: prep for toast of Shrewdle, but I think you know,
Speaker 1: both heated and completed. I'm gonna have to give it
Speaker 1: to the Toasta's trude. But you know, if you're running
Speaker 1: out the door, you're busy. You know, you're like, I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. You can pop a pop tark.
Speaker 1: You can't do that with tous. True, you got an
Speaker 1: ice cold brick. You could suck on it in the
Speaker 1: like pop like a popsicle in the summertime. Marcia, we
Speaker 1: brought you on because we're talking about Aquama. Excellent Aquaman,
Speaker 1: who is a known DC character and also has a
Speaker 1: film dropping December fourteen, starring Jason Momoa. Yeah, already a
Speaker 1: few good reviews out. I know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say better the best DC like Universe movie, and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, there's no way. Yeah, mar knows what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm like, there's no way, but you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, I'm I'm super excited for the direction
Speaker 1: that a DC is going, especially with A with Aquaman,
Speaker 1: with Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: because they're I don't want to say taking the note,
Speaker 1: but you kind of get what I mean where it's
Speaker 1: not we don't just want ready, we want to have
Speaker 1: like that cross genre when it comes to Superhero and
Speaker 1: they've they've given Arthur the nuance that I enjoy him
Speaker 1: having in the comics. You know. Um. One of the
Speaker 1: things I mean in like being off the top with
Speaker 1: like with Aquaman, I think it was basically because of
Speaker 1: Super Friends, he turned into like this joke where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the dude the tugs of fish and he looks like Goadfish.
Speaker 1: It's like what you know, um, And then he had
Speaker 1: a partner, Aqualat that would say things like great guppies. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they all got a you know, Robin, Robin
Speaker 1: was hidden, but that that was funny because because people
Speaker 1: were wondering if it was his power that made him lame.
Speaker 1: But then you have someone like nay More in the
Speaker 1: Marvel universe who has always been dope, like he's always
Speaker 1: been cool, this dude who's like and because and I
Speaker 1: think it goes back to that word you said, which
Speaker 1: is nuance. Where you have someone who is this king
Speaker 1: or in some cases fallen king, or some case forgotten
Speaker 1: king or some case lost king. All the variations of
Speaker 1: someone who is belongs to royalty and is for some
Speaker 1: reason either away from it or stepping away from it.
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of baggage there, and when you
Speaker 1: make him guy who talks to fish, you don't explore
Speaker 1: any of that interesting, fun baggage. But I guess we
Speaker 1: should start, you know, start with the top of the
Speaker 1: deep dive, and then we'll get into our thoughts and
Speaker 1: and and and feelings about Aquaman a k. A. Arthur Curry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't think a lot of people realize how
Speaker 1: far deep the you know, the rabbit hole goes with him.
Speaker 1: I meant, oh, yeah, yeah, he's uh he debuted in
Speaker 1: More Fun Comics number seventy three and nineteen forty one
Speaker 1: November of one, so hey just hit that anniversary, uh uh,
Speaker 1: And he was like a backup feature in DC's anthology titles,
Speaker 1: and he later ended up starring in several volumes of
Speaker 1: the his own comic book series, and then during the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties superhero revival period, which you know is
Speaker 1: known as the Silver Age, he was a founding member
Speaker 1: of the Justice League. Which is interesting because I think
Speaker 1: that the iterations that I think of, because I was
Speaker 1: going to try and make a definitive statement, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna walk it back and make a statement that goes
Speaker 1: from my mind is I know, he started one version
Speaker 1: and then the other version, the newer reboot, it was
Speaker 1: more like the Flash was getting everyone together in the like,
Speaker 1: uh what was it? D C was New fifty two,
Speaker 1: and the New fifty two was kind of the Flash
Speaker 1: who was kind of the leading one. But in a
Speaker 1: lot of iterations, I think it is Batman who's like
Speaker 1: I think, especially in the DC Cinematic universe, it's Batman
Speaker 1: who's wrang letting everyone. So it's interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: you do kind of get a vibe. We're gonna explore this,
Speaker 1: but you do get a interesting vibe based on who
Speaker 1: is starting the Justice League. Like when the Flash was
Speaker 1: doing it in the comics, he was kind of the
Speaker 1: the goofy one who was kind of just being like,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, let's just be friends. Let's you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to work together to save the world.
Speaker 1: And he was the heart of the Justice League, whereas
Speaker 1: like in the cinematic universe, it feels like Batman is,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the tactician version of like, this is
Speaker 1: the most efficient way to handle this. This is why
Speaker 1: we gotta do it, Martha. You know, yeah, it's pretty grim. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so you know, getting into you know, uh, this
Speaker 1: version of the Justice League, which was a little a
Speaker 1: little hokey at first, it is interesting that Aquaman, who
Speaker 1: is like the do good or do goody guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he was created by Paul Norris and more. Uh
Speaker 1: White singer by saying that, right, Um, I read a
Speaker 1: lot of words and a lot of people's names, and
Speaker 1: I think of how it sounds in my head, and
Speaker 1: I just say it that way until somebody else corrects me. Perfect.
Speaker 1: So that's how So apologies to the people that are
Speaker 1: listening to this for the pronunciations that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be doing. Yeah. And so during the late nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: and nineteen sixties, the superhero revival period known as a
Speaker 1: Silver Age, which we went over I think yeah in
Speaker 1: our flash episode. Um, he was a founding member of
Speaker 1: the Justice League. And then in the nineteen nineties, Modern
Speaker 1: Age writers interpreted Aquaman's character more seriously, with storylines depicting
Speaker 1: the weight of his role as a King of Atlantis. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in his nineteen sixty original animated appearance, Uh, it
Speaker 1: ended up leaving a lasting impression which made him widely recognized,
Speaker 1: which I think it makes sense. Oh, nineties Aquaman nineteen No,
Speaker 1: I heard nineties, but yeah, yeah, no, I like the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties one. Um uh for Aquaman. Well, to know
Speaker 1: where the base came from with it, where you have,
Speaker 1: um Atlanta and Tom Curry. You know Tom Curry's uh
Speaker 1: you know, worked in a light house and um, well,
Speaker 1: in the original nineteen sixties one, there was a woman
Speaker 1: that was lost in a hurricane on a raft and
Speaker 1: Tom Curry's the one that saves her. They flipped that
Speaker 1: and you know, um in the latest one in two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, Jeff John's did that one, Jeff Johnson, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say ivan rece r e I S and and that.
Speaker 1: Then they fall in love, and you know, like I
Speaker 1: think a year or two years go by and she
Speaker 1: gets she becomes pregnant, and it's like, oh, but there's
Speaker 1: still something about her. Baby. Uh, there's still something about her.
Speaker 1: You know, she keeps on staring at the sea. What's
Speaker 1: going on? And then you know, baby comes along. And
Speaker 1: then when they're playing one day he finds out, oh,
Speaker 1: Arthur can breathe underwater. What the crap? What's going on
Speaker 1: in Atlanta? Whoa? Whoa? What's happened? You know, because in
Speaker 1: his early Golden age appearances like you said, I'll come in,
Speaker 1: can breathe underwater, control fish and other underwater life for
Speaker 1: up to a minute. I like that. There's a time
Speaker 1: you only got it for him. That. Yeah. After that,
Speaker 1: the fish like, get off my neck. That's how all
Speaker 1: fish talk, by the way, if you didn't know, uh,
Speaker 1: that's why we eat them. Yeah. Nope. But initially he
Speaker 1: was depicted as speaking to see creatures in their own
Speaker 1: language rather than telepathically, and only when they were close
Speaker 1: enough to hear him, which was generally around twenty meters
Speaker 1: and the Knockleman's adventures took place all across the world,
Speaker 1: and his base was a wrecked fishing boat kept underwater.
Speaker 1: Kind of an upgrade now in the movie where he's
Speaker 1: he was staying now in like a kingdom as opposed
Speaker 1: to a wrecked fishing boat. He was originally a dude
Speaker 1: who talked to fish and lived on a boat. Prime
Speaker 1: dating material right there. Yeah, I mean super Friends alone.
Speaker 1: When he's the noise that he would make when he's
Speaker 1: communicating with fish, you just see the wavy lines going
Speaker 1: out into the ocean. Yeah. So during his wartime adventures,
Speaker 1: most of Aquaman's foes were nazi U boat commanders and
Speaker 1: various access villains where he once worked with the All
Speaker 1: Stars Squadron. The rest of his adventures in the nineteen
Speaker 1: forties and nineteen fifties had him dealing with various sea
Speaker 1: based criminals. I like that sea based criminals Arial's father
Speaker 1: King Triton, including modern day pirates such as long time
Speaker 1: arch enemy black Jack, as well as various threats to
Speaker 1: aquatic life, shipping lanes and sailors. You know what they
Speaker 1: need to bring that back. I haven't seen the film.
Speaker 1: Have you gotten to see Aquaman yet? I have not? Okay,
Speaker 1: that I would love because you know, I want to
Speaker 1: see him battling like plastic water bottles, plastic straws, plastic bags,
Speaker 1: about that plastic islands, plastics. I believe it's the Pacific,
Speaker 1: the Pacific or the Atlantic and it's this giant as
Speaker 1: we need Aquaman more now than ever. Well, they did
Speaker 1: have like a little stint during the BP oil spill
Speaker 1: where he like was kind of mad about and he
Speaker 1: was like, see humans always messing up the shoot and stuff,
Speaker 1: and that was Matt Corny, uh but necessary. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you have black Jack, which is his first you know,
Speaker 1: black arch Nemesis because you know black manch this is
Speaker 1: the man who who is like arch Nemesis with Now
Speaker 1: black Jack was Captain Blackjack was a modern day pirate.
Speaker 1: But like everyone when we first said it kind of
Speaker 1: was thinking of like look at me and the captain now,
Speaker 1: you know, but this was this was back in the
Speaker 1: day and to them, modern day pirates were just people
Speaker 1: who dressed like pirates, but exists now because Captain Blackjack
Speaker 1: these like he has like a straight up what is
Speaker 1: the name of the the that pirates sword that you
Speaker 1: always see cutlass, cutlass. Okay, you know, but that's also
Speaker 1: what I'm whipping in. Wasn't there also a female black Jack? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The black Jack was the name used by several characters
Speaker 1: in the in the d C universe. I mean that
Speaker 1: happens like with superheroes, like across the board, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just think how many green lanterns we have. Well, also,
Speaker 1: what I like about looking through his powers and the
Speaker 1: building abilities. This is what I love about all the
Speaker 1: early like silver Golden Age villains is this is usually
Speaker 1: they're they're so corny. Here's Blackjack's power skilled combatant, seamanship, swordsman, leadership,
Speaker 1: a word, that's that's that's your Yeah, that's your power
Speaker 1: set right there. You you are what what is it?
Speaker 1: You went to Toastmasters. That's yours and that's where you
Speaker 1: got you. So it started off. I was in a
Speaker 1: radioactive spill that I narrowly avoided and walked into a Toastmasters.
Speaker 1: I like the seamanship though, because it's like, is this
Speaker 1: like etiquette class or you know, are you like high
Speaker 1: class etiquette with that seamanship? You know all the laws
Speaker 1: of the sea even unwritten, well, like, so you can
Speaker 1: break them all. I mean straight up, because in Blackjack's
Speaker 1: first appearance, his gang stole a yacht full of passengers
Speaker 1: and through the ship's captain at sea. And I feel
Speaker 1: like nowadays that you'd be a hero for that. That
Speaker 1: shows you have times to change back and they eat
Speaker 1: the rich. All right, let's keep this ball rolling, yes, So,
Speaker 1: starting in the late nineteen fifties, new elements to Aquaman's
Speaker 1: backstory were introduced, with various new supporting characters added and
Speaker 1: several adjustments made to the character, his origins, his powers,
Speaker 1: and persona. So the first of these elements was the
Speaker 1: story Aquaman's Undersea Partner and Adventure Comics number two to
Speaker 1: October nineteen fifty six, where his octopus sidekick Topo was
Speaker 1: first introduced. They need to bring Topo back, seriously, this
Speaker 1: and subsequent I'm going to say that throughout the thing
Speaker 1: they need to bring this back is Subsequent elements were
Speaker 1: later after the establishment of DC's multiverse in the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty attributed to the Aquaman of Earth one, I did
Speaker 1: want to say, I don't know if you remember, if
Speaker 1: you When they first tweeted out the poster for the
Speaker 1: current Aquaman film, and um, somebody had photoshopped it to
Speaker 1: look like Lisa Frank, which listener, if you don't remember,
Speaker 1: Lisa Frank was a very big thing in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties of like those psychedelic looking like bear leopards
Speaker 1: and yeah, leopard print, pink glitter, and so someone made
Speaker 1: a bunch of dolphins and it just looked like Lisa
Speaker 1: Frank and I, honest to God, thought that that was
Speaker 1: the poster, and I retweeted it and was also sad
Speaker 1: that it was not, in fact going to be him
Speaker 1: writing pink dolphins. I was like, going for you were
Speaker 1: like genuinely hyped because I was like, whoa, that's such
Speaker 1: a risk. I love it, you know, like I want
Speaker 1: to see Jason Momoa writing rainbows. This is cool. I
Speaker 1: actually enjoyed that because you know, yeah, that all command
Speaker 1: love is there, like that fan art love is there.
Speaker 1: And when you think about it, um, having Aquaman do
Speaker 1: something in a Lisa Frank way in any way shape
Speaker 1: or formed like something as a as a web video
Speaker 1: would be like Thor doing Thor and Darryl, his roommate Darryl.
Speaker 1: It would be like that. So if they went that
Speaker 1: route some plus She's alone a literal fish out of water. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then we had the Silver Age Aquaman who made his
Speaker 1: appearance and adventure comics number to sixty on May nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine. And you know what happened in May nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine, right, that was oh um got his powers? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was I like to give little anecdotes about the
Speaker 1: time when we say them and uh. And May nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine was after the release of Some Like Some
Speaker 1: Like It Hot. It dropped that March also twenty nine
Speaker 1: years before me and Danny were born. And I gotta
Speaker 1: say it was a great year because Aquaman he was
Speaker 1: better than ever. And it was revealed that Aquaman was
Speaker 1: Arthur Curry, son of Tom Curry, grandfather of Tim Curry. Uh.
Speaker 1: Which is a lighthouse keeper in Atlanta, a water breathing
Speaker 1: outcast from the lost underwater city of Atlantis. That sounds
Speaker 1: too much like Atlanta. Now I'm thinking of the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Aquaman cross. You can you can call her Atlanta Atlanta.
Speaker 1: That might help to distinguish shot between that in Atlantis. Yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's see. This is that early age comics where we
Speaker 1: got real lazy with names like Atlanta from Atlantis? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do we all? Does everyone in here? No? Black Bolt's
Speaker 1: real name black Bolt from Marvel Comics. Real name is
Speaker 1: black Agar Bolt. You know that. Scooby Doo's real name
Speaker 1: is Scubert. No, Scubert Scobert. I don't want to believe. No.
Speaker 1: I was going to tweet to Maybe I'll do it later.
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo's full name. I made up the second part,
Speaker 1: but it should be Scubert Dubington. Subert, you always This
Speaker 1: isn't the first time you told me that, and it
Speaker 1: still makes me laugh because the last time he said
Speaker 1: Scubert Dubert Scubert Dubington. Archer decided to use his talents
Speaker 1: to become the defender of the Earth's oceans. It's a
Speaker 1: noble cause. It was later revealed that he had, in
Speaker 1: his youth adventured as Aqua Boy and on occasion met
Speaker 1: super Boy, or only other publicly active superpowered hero at
Speaker 1: the time. When Arthur grew up, he called himself aqua Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this seems like mixed up, because I mean, is this
Speaker 1: a This is where we lean to Marcia, who is
Speaker 1: an expert in d C. So is this Superboy, the
Speaker 1: super Boy that we know today, or is this an
Speaker 1: like the teen Titans Superboy where he's a Superman for
Speaker 1: this silver Age Superboy, I don't believe that it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's from this. Is it the same? Is it the
Speaker 1: same one with a clone background for Superman? Because I
Speaker 1: know that for later on I believe this is different.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Okay, it's just Superman and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: yeah he was super Boy. Okay, so yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you have to think back. It was a simpler time
Speaker 1: in the Silver Age comics. So it's like somebody is younger,
Speaker 1: they'll be called super Boy and then they'll if you
Speaker 1: go into yeah, this is a different one. He does
Speaker 1: not look like a boy. Look at this Markia. Look
Speaker 1: it's a sixteen birthday. That man is hardcore twenty five
Speaker 1: years Is he is Lizzie McGuire sixteen? Yeah? Is Channing Tatum?
Speaker 1: And um what was the one? She's the man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum in that. Yeah, you know, one well grown man.
Speaker 1: One would think that with that kind of mentality, that
Speaker 1: if Bruce Wayne had taken on the cowl, you know,
Speaker 1: at an earlier age as opposed to like training to
Speaker 1: get ready for to take on Gotham. He might have
Speaker 1: been bad Boy eventually been Batman. Yeah, because that's close
Speaker 1: to what I call Superman. Whenever he walks out the
Speaker 1: house wearing something weird, I'm like super Boy. One of
Speaker 1: one of the things that's really great about Aquaman that
Speaker 1: I feel that people don't people don't realize because they think, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the guy that talks to fish kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: His rogues gallery is uh, pretty impressive. I mean, this
Speaker 1: dude stabbed dark Side and the eye with this tritnant
Speaker 1: Aquaman did that, you know that? And like some of
Speaker 1: his other roadus, like for instance, with like continuing with
Speaker 1: silver Age, with um At Lana, she yes, was an
Speaker 1: exiled queen. There was this whole thing where she okay
Speaker 1: with silver Age. It's like comics are hell of a drug.
Speaker 1: There's so much okay. So she was exiled, she had
Speaker 1: author on land um knew that she couldn't bring him
Speaker 1: back with her. She did go back where then she
Speaker 1: was forced forced it was politics by the people, to
Speaker 1: then marry another suitor where she then had another baby
Speaker 1: orm Ocean Master, and one of the between that him
Speaker 1: and Black Manta, I think are like the strongest my
Speaker 1: favorite supervillains for Aquaman. Yeah, so it's good to know
Speaker 1: that that happened when Yeah, it says here Arm disappeared
Speaker 1: after becoming an Amnijack and would resurface years later as
Speaker 1: Aquaman's nemesis, Ocean Master. Yeah, but I think I think
Speaker 1: in Silver Age it was like reverse where I think
Speaker 1: orm was on the sea, not on the sea on land.
Speaker 1: I think it was like that. But there are so
Speaker 1: many like this has been red on so many times.
Speaker 1: I will say, here's my my thing on Black Manta
Speaker 1: is he's the only time in Silver Age DC that
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm glad you called him black Manta
Speaker 1: because because when he pops off the helmet and he
Speaker 1: is black, I'm like, oh, I didn't know. Thanks for
Speaker 1: putting it in your name, bro, Like you don't need
Speaker 1: it for black Lightning. I see, just be lightning, my guy.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's amazing. It was like with um
Speaker 1: this is Marvel where they do black Maria for um
Speaker 1: Luke Cage. You don't you don't have to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can just call her Strong Maria or you know,
Speaker 1: as Maria. But also black Manta is way harder than
Speaker 1: like Manta, but like Lightning. That's like, oh that's a
Speaker 1: good name. Could have been like death Manta or something. No,
Speaker 1: I like black Man because he's like not just so
Speaker 1: you know, so you know who I am under this mask. Uh.
Speaker 1: So during this time, Aquaman's ability to talk with fish
Speaker 1: eventually expanded to full fledged telepathic communication with sea creatures,
Speaker 1: even from great distances. He also retroactively developed a specific weakness,
Speaker 1: again to Superman's vulnerability to kryptonite. Uh. Kind of interesting
Speaker 1: that they kind of a CURATORI ama this. It was
Speaker 1: like going back retroactively, like, oh, by the way, he
Speaker 1: also he's allergic to this. So Aquaman had to come
Speaker 1: into contact with water at least once per hour or
Speaker 1: he would die. Prior to this story, Aquaman could exist
Speaker 1: both in and out of water indefinitely, which I think
Speaker 1: our current Aquaman is like that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel as far as I can gather with what
Speaker 1: they're going forward with it, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: just silly, like adding that ability rather kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: They don't want to make him to opeque, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't Like I can see if his power set because
Speaker 1: you have someone like Daymore who you know, this comparison
Speaker 1: is always going to be coming up because that was
Speaker 1: Marvel's Aquaman. He was the first one. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: super strength, you know, outside, was sexy. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was that dude essential. It's just like an arrogant
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just like yeah, and then and then
Speaker 1: you have Arthur Curry, who's is a good guy, a
Speaker 1: good guy, but he's a king and he's had to
Speaker 1: make a lot of really tough decisions. Like what I'm
Speaker 1: really interested in with with this movie, like what you
Speaker 1: can read in the comics, but depending on who who
Speaker 1: you're going, like Peter David's Aquaman, that's a whole different
Speaker 1: kind of Aquaman than Jeff John's Aquaman. For instance, are
Speaker 1: m Paul North and why Singer So with it, I
Speaker 1: would like for them to do it where they do
Speaker 1: comedic nuance and like building this world like for instance
Speaker 1: Marvel did with Black Panther, because you have that with Aquaman.
Speaker 1: He is a king of the sea, that of the ocean,
Speaker 1: two thirds of the earth, you know right there. He
Speaker 1: has control over that, and there's this whole culture and
Speaker 1: everything that happens underneath there. I think what people don't
Speaker 1: realize is like it's kind of like what they did
Speaker 1: with Black Panther, where he's like he has Waconda in
Speaker 1: its own culture, but he spent a whole lot of
Speaker 1: time in America and in other places, you know, traveling
Speaker 1: with the Avengers and with Arthur Curry. He spends a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time, you know, oh, in America, traveling,
Speaker 1: you know, with the Justice League and say everything like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of what was cool. That was explored.
Speaker 1: So man, I feel like we're talking so deep in comics. Luckily,
Speaker 1: with Aquaman, it's pretty much like he's pretty much stayed
Speaker 1: the same for the most part. You know, he'll lose
Speaker 1: the arm here or there, but like his attitude in
Speaker 1: the nineties totally changed, but he's generally like King of
Speaker 1: the Atlantis, same same person, the same way through. Unlike
Speaker 1: you know, you have Batman, who has tons of red cons.
Speaker 1: He ended up having a son, and then his son
Speaker 1: got killed and his son got back, and then you
Speaker 1: have like Flash where there's like three, four or five
Speaker 1: different Flashes if you go back and listen to that episode.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Green Lantern. Aquaman was pretty untouched. So
Speaker 1: we get to be done for the most part we'll
Speaker 1: go into his powers and abilities, but we get to
Speaker 1: be done with most of the history of it. You know,
Speaker 1: we we could if we wanted to talk about like
Speaker 1: the big moments. But look, if if I'm being an
Speaker 1: off rip and there's gonna be some Aquaman had who
Speaker 1: come at me like there's nothing and you can you
Speaker 1: can let me know. And of course we'll always blast
Speaker 1: you and retweet you if you have like historic Aquaman
Speaker 1: moments like from one I was going to talk about
Speaker 1: mine because I got I got one. We might have
Speaker 1: the same one. I think we'll see, Yes, we will see.
Speaker 1: Right after these messages are doing that, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it. I'm going to do it. Okay, and we
Speaker 1: are back, so I am going to I don't think
Speaker 1: you guys actually are talking about the same moment, but um,
Speaker 1: since Marcia is our guest, I'm going to start with her.
Speaker 1: Of just come on, MARKA, what is the big moment
Speaker 1: for you that really stands out with Aquaman? Well talking
Speaker 1: you know, back in the seventies, like that Aquaman not
Speaker 1: on the two thousand eleven um and on Aquaman, which
Speaker 1: I feel is a that's a whole different kind of Aquaman.
Speaker 1: It's got a different kind of feeling. I really enjoy
Speaker 1: way what is happening, especially with what they're doing now
Speaker 1: with Drowned Earth. James Tynan Jr. The Fourth I can't
Speaker 1: say enough about that. It's it's epic. But for like
Speaker 1: in the seventies, my moment is Dark Destiny Deadly Dreams,
Speaker 1: where okay, so um Aquaman had kind of been on
Speaker 1: hiatus before that, and then he comes back and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do this storyline. It's this is gonna
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. It's good for the fans.
Speaker 1: He's backed by popular demand, is going to bring in
Speaker 1: some more fans, and the and the whole thing of
Speaker 1: it is like, okay, so Aquaman is married to Mara
Speaker 1: and they have a baby. Author Junior, So aqua baby. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know things are going good, you know still
Speaker 1: as politics, you know, Atlantis and such and such. And
Speaker 1: he also has Aqua Lad. Aqua Lad is there than
Speaker 1: Garth and this black aqua Lab it is not, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. It is the same Aqua Lad that becomes
Speaker 1: a founding member of Teen Titans. But yeah, but this
Speaker 1: one like goes and trains in Scotland and all this
Speaker 1: other stuff. Yeah, but in this major storyline where they
Speaker 1: do like Black Manta comes after Aquaman and um he
Speaker 1: gets ahold of Aquaman by getting ahold of Aqua Baby.
Speaker 1: And Aqua Baby can't breathe oxygen, like he can only
Speaker 1: live under the water, so he traps him in this
Speaker 1: like in this sphere and then he slowly fills it
Speaker 1: with oxygen. Oh yeah, yeah, So do you want me
Speaker 1: to tell you what happens or it came out? I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's like seven. So Black Manta's terms are, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill your son or you can kill
Speaker 1: Aqua Lad. So and then Aqua Lads like, ha ha ha,
Speaker 1: that's not going to Aquaman like goes to town and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm sorry, you know it's gonna have to happen. Um.
Speaker 1: So he's battling with Aqua Lad and you know, long
Speaker 1: story short, it gets to the point where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: were we in time too, you know, save Author Jr.
Speaker 1: And then you have this panel like this picture where
Speaker 1: they're just holding the body and no, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they literally brought back Aqua Man and in this storyline
Speaker 1: they killed Aqua Baby. Yeah, so yeah, that was actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: the miss didn't that happen, not like that the Ultimate
Speaker 1: where the kid died too. In the midst he kills
Speaker 1: and then there was help coming right then, right after
Speaker 1: he kills because he like he kills everyone, he's about
Speaker 1: to kill himself. There's not a bullet left, and then
Speaker 1: that's when the help comes through. The miss. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: always that's like, that's like something that Twilight, like Rudd
Speaker 1: Sterling died of black mirror crap was Stephen King, so
Speaker 1: you know he was ready to do So my moment
Speaker 1: is a lot lighter than that, a moment true anguish,
Speaker 1: and I remember that one that is like the moment
Speaker 1: and everyone that you, anyone who who reads comics and
Speaker 1: has read a lot of comics, and you and ask
Speaker 1: you that will be the Aquaman story. That's they'll tell
Speaker 1: you to check out. My story was one that was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Aquaman can be cool, but it didn't it technically never
Speaker 1: it happened, but it doesn't exist. And it was during
Speaker 1: flash Point. Well Flashpoint happened. There was real cool. This
Speaker 1: is one of the only times I went around buying
Speaker 1: So okay, I think I've explained crossover events and comics
Speaker 1: and crossover events are an event that is so large
Speaker 1: it's happening over multiple comic books, and there's usually one
Speaker 1: main story book that you can copy. Uh, And normally
Speaker 1: I just read the main storybook. You you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get me, comics publisher. Now I'm only picking my mans
Speaker 1: and the and the art. So if it happens in
Speaker 1: the books, I'm already again, then I'm reading it. But
Speaker 1: besides that, I'm not going around. And except they did
Speaker 1: one which one was it? Where it was hopping from
Speaker 1: book to book and I was, Uh, so Flashpoint they
Speaker 1: did this cool thing. So what what happened in Flashpoint?
Speaker 1: And I felt they were going to do this with
Speaker 1: the movie. Now it seems like they're not. The Flash
Speaker 1: was fighting the reverse Flash and went back in time,
Speaker 1: messed up the storyline and it caused a moment called
Speaker 1: the Flashpoint that and and uh and it like shifted
Speaker 1: timelines and you know this created new timelines and so
Speaker 1: all the books changed into these new timeline books. Uh,
Speaker 1: A death stroke had a real dope one that was
Speaker 1: him as a pirate and uh the Aquaman and in
Speaker 1: this universe, I think, uh, Bruce Wayne was dead and
Speaker 1: his there was Batman, which was really cool. Yeah, Superman
Speaker 1: was being kept from sunlight and he was a he
Speaker 1: was a being helped by the government under experience. Experience
Speaker 1: and Wonder Woman and Aquaman and Mira were at war.
Speaker 1: There was a world war where like wonder Wan was
Speaker 1: commanding all the Amazonians and they were trying to conquer
Speaker 1: the world and it was so hardcore, like just to
Speaker 1: see like you know, Aquaman like yo, it's it's going
Speaker 1: down and just like seeing that side of it. And
Speaker 1: I really started falling in love with Mira around that
Speaker 1: era too, because during like the Darkest Night stuff, she
Speaker 1: got the Rage ring and like Rage Mirror. I still
Speaker 1: have that action figure at home. It's such a cool
Speaker 1: mir because like she had does it kind of like
Speaker 1: it was a cool way for them to address kind
Speaker 1: of the baggage that she is dealt with, but they
Speaker 1: never get to talk about because it's Aquaman's book and
Speaker 1: she kind of had the rage of you know, losing
Speaker 1: her throne. Not her throne, but she lost a lot.
Speaker 1: It's like losing a way of life. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily lifestyle, it's like losing the stuff that
Speaker 1: you self identify with and then having that just ripped
Speaker 1: away and then all that black Lantern stuff was so
Speaker 1: dope as Nicron, I need to go back and read that.
Speaker 1: I know this was so well worth a reread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you if you ever want to read any DC
Speaker 1: fool like, if you just want to look at crossover ars,
Speaker 1: obviously it's going to be, Um, what's the one, you know,
Speaker 1: the one I'm thinking, Um, you're thinking Dark Knight Oh,
Speaker 1: Final Crisis, Yeah, Dark Knight Metal. Yeah, Dark Knight Metal.
Speaker 1: That's the current running one. Yeah, everyone's been talking about that.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, it really is. There's there's dark dark Days
Speaker 1: and Dark Night I'm hoping that I'm saying it right metal.
Speaker 1: If someone was to bring that up to make sure
Speaker 1: I've read through. Uh, Danny, this is an other thing
Speaker 1: that I read the second half of gosh instead of
Speaker 1: the first half. I will go back and read the
Speaker 1: first half, um, which is Dark Day Metal and this
Speaker 1: is Dark Night Metal. Feel free to correct me if
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. But like, for instance, um, they
Speaker 1: have different Batman like from different alternate you know, the dimensions,
Speaker 1: different dimensional Batman's Like there's the Batman who laughs, it's
Speaker 1: a Batman who went the way of the Joker. It
Speaker 1: is terrifying. Um, and I love that causeplay so hard.
Speaker 1: There were so many either and for talking about like
Speaker 1: what you were saying, if he that is well worth
Speaker 1: a dive into. In fact, I'm Sam Humphreys from d
Speaker 1: C Daily has written one of the Batman. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will because someone literally last week I forget. I wonder
Speaker 1: if it was after episode mentioned that we should read it.
Speaker 1: And it is good. Well, the latter half that I read.
Speaker 1: I need to go back and see where everything started.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to talk about some of Aquaman's
Speaker 1: abilities before we fully, before we move on to other
Speaker 1: other elements of his comics and then eventually the film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's surprisingly Opie. He is, and so I think that
Speaker 1: that's why they made So that's why they made that
Speaker 1: a couple of those changes in some of the comics
Speaker 1: where he needed to have water or needed to be
Speaker 1: around water every hour. Um, they also removed there was
Speaker 1: one comic where they removed his ability to talk to fish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off, Danny, but I found it.
Speaker 1: It was infinite content. Soul brother. He sent me this
Speaker 1: picture and this is from Yes, she's looking at the Batman,
Speaker 1: who laughs. Yeah, it's he's gnarly there. There's one storyline
Speaker 1: in in this Metal series where just after the Metal
Speaker 1: series is actually I'm sorry, it's not the Doubles, it's
Speaker 1: the in any case, I'll remember in a second, but
Speaker 1: they have Lex Luthor trap the Batman, who laughs. And
Speaker 1: then he also as part of his local ball, he
Speaker 1: grabs Joker and all of them because he's trying to
Speaker 1: I don't want to give away what he's trying to get,
Speaker 1: but he puts him like in this is like four
Speaker 1: layers of things to wrap him in the cell. And
Speaker 1: Joker is like, no, he's there because he wants to
Speaker 1: be there. This is not a good idea. And this
Speaker 1: is like the Joker Joker, not like another Joker Joker.
Speaker 1: So the Joker is like literally helping out. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I got to read that. Let's go back to powers
Speaker 1: of ability before we go on this huge Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he has ability to breathe underwater and possesses a superhuman
Speaker 1: physique strong enough to withstand attacks from superhuman opponents and
Speaker 1: resist machine gun fire because of his density. Because he
Speaker 1: basically he you know, do you even lift bro, but
Speaker 1: under the sea you know. There was another hero who
Speaker 1: had the power to control their density UH who existed.
Speaker 1: Nobody is gonna get this reference and his name was
Speaker 1: de Ka Nakam Valiant Vanquished. There was a character Noah
Speaker 1: who had a crush on him, and it was This
Speaker 1: is the most meta inside joke. The ones who get
Speaker 1: it will love it. They'll love it. He can swim
Speaker 1: at very high speeds, capable of reaching speeds of three
Speaker 1: thousand meters per second Damn, and can swim up Niagara Falls.
Speaker 1: He can see in near total darkness and has enhanced hearing,
Speaker 1: granting limited sonar. He's like he's like a bat He
Speaker 1: has more bat like powers than Batman. Although Aquaman can
Speaker 1: remain underwater indefinitely now without suffering any ill effects, he
Speaker 1: grows weak if he remains on land for extended periods.
Speaker 1: They need to get this straight. This keeps going back
Speaker 1: and forth. They keep on changing it. There's so many differents. However,
Speaker 1: when Batman invented Aquaman's water suit, he was able to
Speaker 1: walk on land for an indefinite amount of time and
Speaker 1: was no longer vulnerable to a de humidifier. This weakness
Speaker 1: was later removed from continuity in UH they're just kind
Speaker 1: of mess. You know. You know, he can't be too uh,
Speaker 1: he can't be too op established that he grew up
Speaker 1: on land before learning of his Atlantean heritage, but he
Speaker 1: still runs the risk of dying by dehydration within in.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that he's like one of
Speaker 1: the strongest men ever and he can die from d
Speaker 1: He's just like a regular human. Yeah, it seems like
Speaker 1: he just and he's also as thirsty as the dudes
Speaker 1: in your comments. Oh lord, if he you know our
Speaker 1: friend Nick Ross who was on our show, Um, he
Speaker 1: has a really funny tweet about how humans are, like
Speaker 1: how we're the top of the food chain that can
Speaker 1: also die from a plastic bag, Like isn't that crazy? Like,
Speaker 1: no matter how strong you are, if you have a
Speaker 1: plastic bag over your head for like thirty seconds, no
Speaker 1: matter how strong you are, you can't hold a glass
Speaker 1: of water in your hand straight out to your side
Speaker 1: for longer than I think it was a minute? What
Speaker 1: was a minute too, or maybe it was three minutes
Speaker 1: something like that. Because there's something about the way that
Speaker 1: your muscles are in your arm that you just you,
Speaker 1: no matter how strong you are, you physically can't do it.
Speaker 1: What about people that hold weights and do that, but
Speaker 1: they're not like holding it for you know. Three Ever,
Speaker 1: let's see if the rock is I feel like he
Speaker 1: has uh so maybe what seven minutes before we hop
Speaker 1: into the New fifty two market, can you explain to
Speaker 1: people what the New fifty two was in d C,
Speaker 1: because it's not just Aquaman in effective comics. Oh so
Speaker 1: many like, um, the harlequin that people knew like, um, well,
Speaker 1: she was originally Batman the animated series b t S.
Speaker 1: She didn't exist in comics. So then after having her
Speaker 1: in there, she then you know, existed in comics in
Speaker 1: a certain way, and then she was And that's the
Speaker 1: full harlequin outfit that people see mainly at comic cons
Speaker 1: where you see where she's um, I believe it's like
Speaker 1: half black, half red type of things, like a full outfit.
Speaker 1: Very it's like it looks like it's painted on, looks
Speaker 1: like body paint kind of a thing. Giant hammer. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, the harlequin that started off in
Speaker 1: BTS UM when like, for instance, I'm just using this
Speaker 1: as a character for instance, and the New fifty two
Speaker 1: hit that's when she really became the Harlequin that you
Speaker 1: see now with like Suicide Squad where you have like
Speaker 1: the candy colored hair and the bat um putting necklace
Speaker 1: kind of a thing where it's like really doubling down
Speaker 1: on the relationship between her and Joker, you know, in
Speaker 1: the toxic way that we recognize that it is um
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. So like, yeah, the New Hipty
Speaker 1: two is kind of like just basically, you know, things
Speaker 1: have to shake up every now and again, and some
Speaker 1: it happens. It tends to happen a lot, sometimes um
Speaker 1: too much that people think. But with a New fifty
Speaker 1: two or the Rebirth, they took a lot of characters
Speaker 1: that people had they might have stagnated a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then they just revitalize them in a different way.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people agree with on this there
Speaker 1: on the same page with all of the characters. Like
Speaker 1: some people are not a fan of the new Harlequin
Speaker 1: as opposed to um a classic Harley, and then other
Speaker 1: people are like, no, no, she's definitely you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot more than we can do that. Plus we
Speaker 1: have movies now, you know, Bird of Prey and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth, so you know, mixed bag whatever.
Speaker 1: It's here to stay for right now. It's seven years
Speaker 1: old and so far it's going on, it's continuing. They
Speaker 1: haven't had to reshake things up too much. So yeah.
Speaker 1: So the New fifty two was then revamp and relaunch
Speaker 1: of d C Comics of its entire line of ongoing
Speaker 1: monthly superhero comic books. So this was following the conclusion
Speaker 1: of the flash Point Crossover, which, if you talked about,
Speaker 1: DC canceled all of its existing titles, debut a new
Speaker 1: fifty two series um in September ofleven. And I think
Speaker 1: we have a quote from Jeff John's here, So this
Speaker 1: is from an I g N interview with Jeff John
Speaker 1: in eleven around the New fifty two number one issue
Speaker 1: being released as part of the New fifty two d
Speaker 1: C relaunch of their entire superhero line. Jeff John's Ivan
Speaker 1: Rice and Joe Prado served as the initial creative team
Speaker 1: of the company's new Aquaman series, so the first issue
Speaker 1: was released in September of twenty eleven. The three creators
Speaker 1: remained on the title for the first sixteen issues that
Speaker 1: subsequently led to the first continual Aquaman related crossover known
Speaker 1: as the Throne of Atlantis. Aquaman now struggles with his
Speaker 1: lack of reputation with the greater public, which views him
Speaker 1: as a lesser metahuman. This is like a going joke
Speaker 1: that I've seen in the comics of them, kind of
Speaker 1: like the public making fun of Aquaman. Yeah, the thing
Speaker 1: that I enjoy about Aquaman, and they even Jeff John's
Speaker 1: addresses it really well. UM in like re envisioning Um Aquaman.
Speaker 1: I like UM volume seven, number one, the trench Um,
Speaker 1: but with this, Like, for instance, there's a scene where
Speaker 1: he is sitting in a restaurant. Everybody's like, what you're
Speaker 1: You're that dude, You're the dude that talks to fish,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I do not talk to fish, and
Speaker 1: it's yeah. And he even goes into it where it's
Speaker 1: like it's part of him stimulating the cerebellum and and compelling,
Speaker 1: compelling UM sea creatures to then do what he wants
Speaker 1: to heed what he wants to make it into an
Speaker 1: instinct for the creature. So it's not out of you know,
Speaker 1: it's not out of this step of life for them.
Speaker 1: So it's not him telepathically being like, hey, so what
Speaker 1: do you do on Wednesday? My schedules, clear kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But going back to what you were saying with Aquaman,
Speaker 1: where he is people make fun of him, you know.
Speaker 1: I like that about him. I like that he's in
Speaker 1: the classic outfit. Not everybody agrees with this, but it's like,
Speaker 1: because he is, he's a decent person, He's a good guy.
Speaker 1: With this Aquaman. He does have a lot of the
Speaker 1: personality traits of like the nineties Aquaman, but enough that
Speaker 1: also bounces it out that he's a sure individual that
Speaker 1: puts up with people making fun of him. He makes
Speaker 1: it okay to be who he is. He normalizes being
Speaker 1: authentically you. And that's one of the things that I
Speaker 1: really love about that. And that's why I like that
Speaker 1: they have Jason Momola being Acaban because can you picture anybody,
Speaker 1: just anybody else, being totally chill with being themselves no
Speaker 1: matter what anybody else says, and still being able to
Speaker 1: like lay down the law but with a gentle hand
Speaker 1: if need be. Yeah, Yeah, I'm really glad that they
Speaker 1: picked him. I was going to say in this I
Speaker 1: g N interview, the reporter said, who was He was
Speaker 1: always one of the least interesting characters in the DCU.
Speaker 1: For me, that changed in Brightest Day. What is about
Speaker 1: the character that makes him so attractive to you? And
Speaker 1: Jeff John said that he's the underdog. And then the
Speaker 1: I g N reporters said, how do you see his
Speaker 1: relationship to the rest of the DC universe, And Jeff
Speaker 1: John said, it's very clear an issue number one, what
Speaker 1: his relationship is to the rest of the world. I
Speaker 1: think he's underestimated by everybody, both inside and outside of
Speaker 1: the comics. Uh So with the rebirth, he is uh
Speaker 1: once again a founding member of the Justice League and
Speaker 1: is the main member of the team. That's a huge
Speaker 1: thing to like being one of the main forefront members. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's not there you know, for you
Speaker 1: know the popcorn or you know, for what whatever they
Speaker 1: have in catering. No, it's not that he's there because
Speaker 1: he is abnormally strong. With this with this dense strength,
Speaker 1: he's able to leap so high it says if he's flying.
Speaker 1: He has a type of sonar. He has a trident
Speaker 1: that was um, you know, passed down from the first
Speaker 1: King of Atlantis. I forget if in the new fifty
Speaker 1: two if they keep that particular No, no, actually they
Speaker 1: change that up because his his trident is one of
Speaker 1: seven artifacts. It's like it's some serious power, some serious
Speaker 1: legacy that we're talking about with this, and he can
Speaker 1: you can't drown him. He breathes underwater, and he's a
Speaker 1: king with the king's resources with a Queen Mira, who
Speaker 1: is amazing in our own right. I like like with
Speaker 1: them the New fifty two, they up the stakes with
Speaker 1: like arm and black Man, who I talked about before.
Speaker 1: You can tell a lot from their hero by the
Speaker 1: villains that they fight. What I like, for instance, about
Speaker 1: Orm and what they did with that is that you
Speaker 1: identify with Orm because he's he's basically like because they
Speaker 1: have the the deluge, where's like this hierarchy system that's
Speaker 1: in an Atlantis and there's um these um they call
Speaker 1: themselves bottom dwellers, like it's not a derogatory term um
Speaker 1: with them, and it's like they're they're all pure. They're
Speaker 1: like pure about Atlantis. There's no point in going into
Speaker 1: like um on the land. And with Orm, his whole
Speaker 1: thing is like they're polluting us there one third of
Speaker 1: the planet and they're killing us all. Let's just get
Speaker 1: rid of them, Let's just drown them all. Let's do this,
Speaker 1: and you kind of see where he's coming from, and
Speaker 1: you also see why he's kind of but he's also
Speaker 1: he's also a half brother of authors Arthur, so you
Speaker 1: can't just kill him. So yeah, well that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the recipe for any good villain is one that
Speaker 1: you can see where they're coming from. They might not
Speaker 1: be going about it the right way, but you definitely
Speaker 1: see where they're coming from, because it seems less cartoonish
Speaker 1: when you have a villain that you can reason when
Speaker 1: you're like, I see why you're mad. You This just
Speaker 1: isn't the way to handle this, I want to say.
Speaker 1: So we are going to actually hop into the future
Speaker 1: of Aquaman in this movie right after these messages and
Speaker 1: we're back and before we hop into the film, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about a couple of other Aquaman films. Uh.
Speaker 1: One of them, actually not a film, is the animated series.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Iffy, but Aquaman
Speaker 1: is a filmation animated series that premiered on CBS on
Speaker 1: September n seven and end of June seventy. It's a
Speaker 1: thirty minute version of the super Man Aquaman Hour of
Speaker 1: Adventure and it was repackaged without the Superman and Superboy segments.
Speaker 1: I love that they kept super Boy in there. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there were thirty six Aquaman segments produced for that,
Speaker 1: plus eighteen segments featuring other superheroes. Oh man, Just speaking
Speaker 1: of aquad shows you may not know about. Were you
Speaker 1: aware of the Aquaman pilot that dropped in two thousand seven? Wait?
Speaker 1: So like it aired? So what happened was the Aquaman pilot?
Speaker 1: They were expecting it to debut on the fall schedule
Speaker 1: of two thousand six, but they also had a merger
Speaker 1: with w B and up N, which is what created
Speaker 1: the CW network. So it was supposed to be for
Speaker 1: the w B during like small bills, you know, huge boom,
Speaker 1: but when it turned into the CW, they opted not
Speaker 1: to buy the series and they passed on the pilot.
Speaker 1: But they did make the pilot available online, which is
Speaker 1: cool because that normally doesn't happen. It just disappears. And
Speaker 1: Aquaman was played curiously enough by the person who played
Speaker 1: Oliver Queen and Green Arrow and Smallville, which was the
Speaker 1: actor Justin Hartley. Uh So that would have been weird anyway.
Speaker 1: Which came first interesting crossover? I did want to say
Speaker 1: for the Aquaman the animated series, those episodes have been
Speaker 1: seen as part of Cartoon Networks Boomerang, and then in
Speaker 1: October of two thousand and seven, Warner Home Video released
Speaker 1: The Adventures of Aquaman The Complete Collection on DVD, SO
Speaker 1: which was a two disc set features all thirty six
Speaker 1: Aquaman segments from the series and was presented its original
Speaker 1: uncapped broadcast presentation and original air day. I wonder if
Speaker 1: you're an Aquaman fan at home, let us know if
Speaker 1: you have those and let us know if you have
Speaker 1: those that. It also had a little feature at called
Speaker 1: Aquaman The Sovereign of the Seas, which explores Aquaman's depiction
Speaker 1: in various media and how his character and superhero capabilities
Speaker 1: have progressed over the years. Also, his animation has changed
Speaker 1: as he's been in different Justice League animated one but uh,
Speaker 1: the film, the film that's coming up, Marky, I have
Speaker 1: you enjoyed? So Aquaman was first introduced or are current?
Speaker 1: Jason Momoa run of Aquaman was first introduced in Justice League,
Speaker 1: which I've weirdly forgot if you remember when we were
Speaker 1: talking about Justice League on this podcast and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had the introduction Flash and Cyborg and everyone's like
Speaker 1: and also Aquaman. But it's so funny because Jason Momoa
Speaker 1: has just been like in the Zeit Guy so much
Speaker 1: that I forgot that that was his first introduction. I
Speaker 1: just feel like we knew him as Aquaman for for
Speaker 1: when it was first announced, and like Jason Momoa himself
Speaker 1: just being a part of you know, the nerd fan
Speaker 1: base with Game of Thrones and everything else he's been
Speaker 1: in that, and then when it was announced that he
Speaker 1: was already getting his own film, it just kind of
Speaker 1: he just felt like he was already in there with them. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So, Markia, what has been your take on
Speaker 1: on his Aquaman? I enjoy it. I think it's a
Speaker 1: I think Jason Mamoa well when it clicks, it clicks,
Speaker 1: and definitely does with him. I think he's a really
Speaker 1: good balance of it feels like there's like two extremes
Speaker 1: that it comes with um Aquaman. You know, you like
Speaker 1: you have the type of Aquaman where it's like yes
Speaker 1: and the Goldfish inspired, you know, classic suit and um
Speaker 1: flying around trying to do the right thing, being stalwart,
Speaker 1: you know, type of goody, but still being him, you know,
Speaker 1: nerdy him um. And then you have the other one
Speaker 1: that you have like in the from the nineties, Like
Speaker 1: I said, Peter David's Um Aquaman where it's like hook
Speaker 1: for hands. We didn't even mention. I mean, yeah, where
Speaker 1: he he loses this harpoon. Yeah that was hand. That
Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't his first one, Like um, the Lady
Speaker 1: of the Lake gives him a magic hand. There's he
Speaker 1: also has his hand eating. Do you remember when he
Speaker 1: put it in the piranhas, Well he didn't put it there.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well he lost his um, his ability to
Speaker 1: talk to the we're on the same pace, and then
Speaker 1: the Piranha took the hands and he was off to
Speaker 1: the races. No more pretty boy. Now. It was like
Speaker 1: the long grizzled adventurer you know, you know, kill you
Speaker 1: before you kill anybody in my city type of a thing.
Speaker 1: And I think Jason Momoa is a really great balance
Speaker 1: of the both of those, where you have like that
Speaker 1: long hair, that physique um, which Aquaman always had a
Speaker 1: type of physique, but you know it's it's a mentality
Speaker 1: and the way that you carry yourself, and then still
Speaker 1: being definitely being the type of dude where It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he would play you know, tea party with his daughter
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. So I I love that they
Speaker 1: have this casting for him for Aquaman because we're I
Speaker 1: think that we're going to see him lethal, We're going
Speaker 1: to see him vulnerable. Um, we're gonna see him funny,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see him kill, right. I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah. I loved his comedic moments. He definitely
Speaker 1: adds that, like the humor and comedy to the Justice League.
Speaker 1: I was in a great casting for the balance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for real, I was gonna say so. The development of
Speaker 1: the Aquaman film began back in two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: with several plans falling apart throughout the years, and then
Speaker 1: eventually James One signed on as director in April. It's
Speaker 1: taken a while for them to get the Aquaman film. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, there were some ups and downs that happened
Speaker 1: with things, so I could see why they would be cautious.
Speaker 1: I am very happy with the direction that they're going
Speaker 1: with things, though. I mean with the way that Deucey
Speaker 1: is going, I could see Flashpoint being a real possibility
Speaker 1: for and that would be I think by then when
Speaker 1: that does happen. If it does happen, the public would
Speaker 1: be ready for it, you know, with the post post
Speaker 1: Metal series, post wonder Woman, you know, and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth. It's like get a you know, they
Speaker 1: would trust and be able to expand on the worlds
Speaker 1: that they were creating. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: it looks like slash film because we were talking about
Speaker 1: some of what the critics have said said Aquaman is
Speaker 1: better than expected. Feels like I'm Marvel Phase one movie
Speaker 1: in a good way. It's at its best when it's
Speaker 1: having fun and not taking itself too seriously. Eric Davis
Speaker 1: A Van Dango said Aquaman is a most ambitious DC
Speaker 1: movie to date, a big, sprawling visual spectacle that is gorgeous,
Speaker 1: crazy stuff with terrific action and a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to watch. It's crazy. Yeah, it looks like it's a
Speaker 1: going to be a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Something that I
Speaker 1: also like about Jason Momo is like you could totally
Speaker 1: see him writing a big seahorse like and being and
Speaker 1: making it look cool and then also him stabbing dark
Speaker 1: Side and the Yeah, he's all those things. He's he's
Speaker 1: the rock when he's like boxing and he's also the
Speaker 1: rock when I fall him on Instagram and he's letting
Speaker 1: his daughter paint his nails. So that is Pen's Aquamani.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson content. You know, I enjoy his Instagram feed him.
Speaker 1: Will Smith like all of the motivational off Dad's huh buff,
Speaker 1: Dad's buff. Daddy's Yeah. I think that's a that's it
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