WEBVTT - Episode 36: Intro to Aquaman 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.040 Welcome to Nerdificent I am would have of your host 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.560 and Fernandez, and sitting across from me is my co 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.960 host who is currently eating. So I can say your 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:21.919 name if you Watty Way. Oh no, you know, I 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.680 was just going to show him down, your boy chomping 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:27.120 down on a choice to choice to choice to a 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:32.080 toaster Strudle world that I'm trying to say toaster strufuse 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:37.440 the words together, but you know, hey, where my t 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.920 Strudal said at. Oh no, you're it's pop tarts, man. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.879 I mean, I guess there's that great debate. It's the 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:50.000 Great debate. It's a marvel deep c It's toaster Struddle's 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:55.480 pop tarts. It's looks like those um was it those 0:00:55.520 --> 0:01:00.400 pastry Ravuli Yeah, Pastry raul. Look, I'm weird, Like I remember, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.720 I forgot what it was, but I think it was 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.960 Carl's Jr. Had a pop Tart ice cream sandwich and 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.560 it was like two pieces of pop tart and an 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.000 ice cream in the middle. Anyways, we are joined up 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.000 top by a host of fangirling on nerd as she 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.920 is also we asked her because she is one of 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.399 the hosts of d C Daily. It is our girl, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.600 Marquisa McCarty, Hey, yeah, thanks so much for having me, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.200 and uh for people that do that pop tart versus 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.560 revul thing, which is a real thing. Damn on Twitter. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.320 Um yeah, look at the pop Tarts Twitter and you'll 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:37.200 see people sending them pictures of revel. Oh the shade, Yeah, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.679 the shade, poor pop You know they're doing fine. College kids, parents, 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.759 busy parents, they're hanging in. I mean the edge pop 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.680 Tarts has over Toast Shroudles is that you can have 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.040 them at any temperature. You know, there's there's too much 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.240 prep for toast of Shrewdle, but I think you know, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.960 both heated and completed. I'm gonna have to give it 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.840 to the Toasta's trude. But you know, if you're running 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.440 out the door, you're busy. You know, you're like, I 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.720 gotta get out of here. You can pop a pop tark. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.280 You can't do that with tous. True, you got an 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.920 ice cold brick. You could suck on it in the 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.600 like pop like a popsicle in the summertime. Marcia, we 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.359 brought you on because we're talking about Aquama. Excellent Aquaman, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.240 who is a known DC character and also has a 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:27.560 film dropping December fourteen, starring Jason Momoa. Yeah, already a 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.200 few good reviews out. I know, I don't want to 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.400 say better the best DC like Universe movie, and I 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:39.480 was like, no, there's no way. Yeah, mar knows what 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.440 I'm talking about. I'm like, there's no way, but you know, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.400 we'll see. Yeah, I'm I'm super excited for the direction 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.920 that a DC is going, especially with A with Aquaman, 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.600 with Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman and so on and so forth, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.000 because they're I don't want to say taking the note, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.840 but you kind of get what I mean where it's 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.200 not we don't just want ready, we want to have 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.440 like that cross genre when it comes to Superhero and 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:09.520 they've they've given Arthur the nuance that I enjoy him 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.840 having in the comics. You know. Um. One of the 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.040 things I mean in like being off the top with 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.640 like with Aquaman, I think it was basically because of 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.799 Super Friends, he turned into like this joke where it's like, oh, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.120 the dude the tugs of fish and he looks like Goadfish. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.280 It's like what you know, um, And then he had 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:34.560 a partner, Aqualat that would say things like great guppies. Well, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.040 you know, they all got a you know, Robin, Robin 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.120 was hidden, but that that was funny because because people 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.960 were wondering if it was his power that made him lame. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.720 But then you have someone like nay More in the 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.640 Marvel universe who has always been dope, like he's always 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.840 been cool, this dude who's like and because and I 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.720 think it goes back to that word you said, which 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.120 is nuance. Where you have someone who is this king 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.280 or in some cases fallen king, or some case forgotten 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.440 king or some case lost king. All the variations of 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.840 someone who is belongs to royalty and is for some 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.760 reason either away from it or stepping away from it. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.200 There's there's a lot of baggage there, and when you 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.640 make him guy who talks to fish, you don't explore 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.599 any of that interesting, fun baggage. But I guess we 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.839 should start, you know, start with the top of the 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.160 deep dive, and then we'll get into our thoughts and 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:33.080 and and and feelings about Aquaman a k. A. Arthur Curry. Yeah, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.640 because I don't think a lot of people realize how 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.960 far deep the you know, the rabbit hole goes with him. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.440 I meant, oh, yeah, yeah, he's uh he debuted in 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.000 More Fun Comics number seventy three and nineteen forty one 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:52.440 November of one, so hey just hit that anniversary, uh uh, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.800 And he was like a backup feature in DC's anthology titles, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.960 and he later ended up starring in several volumes of 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.280 the his own comic book series, and then during the 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.200 fifties and sixties superhero revival period, which you know is 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.440 known as the Silver Age, he was a founding member 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.440 of the Justice League. Which is interesting because I think 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.440 that the iterations that I think of, because I was 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.640 going to try and make a definitive statement, but I'm 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.840 gonna walk it back and make a statement that goes 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.120 from my mind is I know, he started one version 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.680 and then the other version, the newer reboot, it was 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.320 more like the Flash was getting everyone together in the like, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.120 uh what was it? D C was New fifty two, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.880 and the New fifty two was kind of the Flash 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.360 who was kind of the leading one. But in a 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.159 lot of iterations, I think it is Batman who's like 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.400 I think, especially in the DC Cinematic universe, it's Batman 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.880 who's wrang letting everyone. So it's interesting because you know, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.840 you do kind of get a vibe. We're gonna explore this, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.080 but you do get a interesting vibe based on who 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.240 is starting the Justice League. Like when the Flash was 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.680 doing it in the comics, he was kind of the 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.359 the goofy one who was kind of just being like, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.760 come on, guys, let's just be friends. Let's you know, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.000 you know, we need to work together to save the world. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.480 And he was the heart of the Justice League, whereas 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.200 like in the cinematic universe, it feels like Batman is, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.840 you know, doing the tactician version of like, this is 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.719 the most efficient way to handle this. This is why 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:25.640 we gotta do it, Martha. You know, yeah, it's pretty grim. Yeah. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:30.839 So so you know, getting into you know, uh, this 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.920 version of the Justice League, which was a little a 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.200 little hokey at first, it is interesting that Aquaman, who 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:41.000 is like the do good or do goody guy. Yeah, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.000 so he was created by Paul Norris and more. Uh 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.480 White singer by saying that, right, Um, I read a 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.800 lot of words and a lot of people's names, and 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.599 I think of how it sounds in my head, and 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.200 I just say it that way until somebody else corrects me. Perfect. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.520 So that's how So apologies to the people that are 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.480 listening to this for the pronunciations that I'm going to 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.680 be doing. Yeah. And so during the late nineteen fifties 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.720 and nineteen sixties, the superhero revival period known as a 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.400 Silver Age, which we went over I think yeah in 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.160 our flash episode. Um, he was a founding member of 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.800 the Justice League. And then in the nineteen nineties, Modern 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:19.560 Age writers interpreted Aquaman's character more seriously, with storylines depicting 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.240 the weight of his role as a King of Atlantis. Yeah. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:29.080 And in his nineteen sixty original animated appearance, Uh, it 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.600 ended up leaving a lasting impression which made him widely recognized, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:40.400 which I think it makes sense. Oh, nineties Aquaman nineteen No, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.880 I heard nineties, but yeah, yeah, no, I like the 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.640 nineteen sixties one. Um uh for Aquaman. Well, to know 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.120 where the base came from with it, where you have, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:58.360 um Atlanta and Tom Curry. You know Tom Curry's uh 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.120 you know, worked in a light house and um, well, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.520 in the original nineteen sixties one, there was a woman 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.600 that was lost in a hurricane on a raft and 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.080 Tom Curry's the one that saves her. They flipped that 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.600 and you know, um in the latest one in two 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.920 thousand eleven, Jeff John's did that one, Jeff Johnson, I'm 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.120 gonna say ivan rece r e I S and and that. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.520 Then they fall in love, and you know, like I 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.520 think a year or two years go by and she 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.040 gets she becomes pregnant, and it's like, oh, but there's 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:32.520 still something about her. Baby. Uh, there's still something about her. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.880 You know, she keeps on staring at the sea. What's 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.440 going on? And then you know, baby comes along. And 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.120 then when they're playing one day he finds out, oh, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:46.000 Arthur can breathe underwater. What the crap? What's going on 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.760 in Atlanta? Whoa? Whoa? What's happened? You know, because in 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.560 his early Golden age appearances like you said, I'll come in, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.679 can breathe underwater, control fish and other underwater life for 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.560 up to a minute. I like that. There's a time 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.600 you only got it for him. That. Yeah. After that, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.520 the fish like, get off my neck. That's how all 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.760 fish talk, by the way, if you didn't know, uh, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:16.000 that's why we eat them. Yeah. Nope. But initially he 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.640 was depicted as speaking to see creatures in their own 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.959 language rather than telepathically, and only when they were close 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.280 enough to hear him, which was generally around twenty meters 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.880 and the Knockleman's adventures took place all across the world, 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.440 and his base was a wrecked fishing boat kept underwater. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.840 Kind of an upgrade now in the movie where he's 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.440 he was staying now in like a kingdom as opposed 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.720 to a wrecked fishing boat. He was originally a dude 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.880 who talked to fish and lived on a boat. Prime 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.360 dating material right there. Yeah, I mean super Friends alone. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.640 When he's the noise that he would make when he's 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.480 communicating with fish, you just see the wavy lines going 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.359 out into the ocean. Yeah. So during his wartime adventures, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.080 most of Aquaman's foes were nazi U boat commanders and 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.719 various access villains where he once worked with the All 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.480 Stars Squadron. The rest of his adventures in the nineteen 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.800 forties and nineteen fifties had him dealing with various sea 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.880 based criminals. I like that sea based criminals Arial's father 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.760 King Triton, including modern day pirates such as long time 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.240 arch enemy black Jack, as well as various threats to 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.000 aquatic life, shipping lanes and sailors. You know what they 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.959 need to bring that back. I haven't seen the film. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.240 Have you gotten to see Aquaman yet? I have not? Okay, 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.080 that I would love because you know, I want to 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:41.120 see him battling like plastic water bottles, plastic straws, plastic bags, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.920 about that plastic islands, plastics. I believe it's the Pacific, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.560 the Pacific or the Atlantic and it's this giant as 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.880 we need Aquaman more now than ever. Well, they did 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.520 have like a little stint during the BP oil spill 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.600 where he like was kind of mad about and he 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.920 was like, see humans always messing up the shoot and stuff, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:07.160 and that was Matt Corny, uh but necessary. Yeah, but 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.240 you have black Jack, which is his first you know, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.800 black arch Nemesis because you know black manch this is 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.040 the man who who is like arch Nemesis with Now 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.840 black Jack was Captain Blackjack was a modern day pirate. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.680 But like everyone when we first said it kind of 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.480 was thinking of like look at me and the captain now, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.880 you know, but this was this was back in the 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.560 day and to them, modern day pirates were just people 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.480 who dressed like pirates, but exists now because Captain Blackjack 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.520 these like he has like a straight up what is 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.480 the name of the the that pirates sword that you 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.800 always see cutlass, cutlass. Okay, you know, but that's also 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.040 what I'm whipping in. Wasn't there also a female black Jack? Yeah? 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.360 The black Jack was the name used by several characters 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.240 in the in the d C universe. I mean that 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:07.000 happens like with superheroes, like across the board, like yeah, yeah, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:12.280 I mean just think how many green lanterns we have. Well, also, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.160 what I like about looking through his powers and the 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.680 building abilities. This is what I love about all the 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.200 early like silver Golden Age villains is this is usually 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:29.640 they're they're so corny. Here's Blackjack's power skilled combatant, seamanship, swordsman, leadership, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.880 a word, that's that's that's your Yeah, that's your power 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.400 set right there. You you are what what is it? 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.160 You went to Toastmasters. That's yours and that's where you 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.720 got you. So it started off. I was in a 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:48.400 radioactive spill that I narrowly avoided and walked into a Toastmasters. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.319 I like the seamanship though, because it's like, is this 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.840 like etiquette class or you know, are you like high 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.040 class etiquette with that seamanship? You know all the laws 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.920 of the sea even unwritten, well, like, so you can 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.720 break them all. I mean straight up, because in Blackjack's 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.239 first appearance, his gang stole a yacht full of passengers 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.560 and through the ship's captain at sea. And I feel 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.080 like nowadays that you'd be a hero for that. That 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.480 shows you have times to change back and they eat 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.760 the rich. All right, let's keep this ball rolling, yes, So, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.920 starting in the late nineteen fifties, new elements to Aquaman's 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.200 backstory were introduced, with various new supporting characters added and 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.240 several adjustments made to the character, his origins, his powers, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.319 and persona. So the first of these elements was the 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.839 story Aquaman's Undersea Partner and Adventure Comics number two to 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:45.840 October nineteen fifty six, where his octopus sidekick Topo was 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.839 first introduced. They need to bring Topo back, seriously, this 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.160 and subsequent I'm going to say that throughout the thing 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.000 they need to bring this back is Subsequent elements were 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.640 later after the establishment of DC's multiverse in the nineteen 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.640 sixty attributed to the Aquaman of Earth one, I did 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.200 want to say, I don't know if you remember, if 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.840 you When they first tweeted out the poster for the 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.720 current Aquaman film, and um, somebody had photoshopped it to 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.480 look like Lisa Frank, which listener, if you don't remember, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.640 Lisa Frank was a very big thing in the eighties 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:26.400 and nineties of like those psychedelic looking like bear leopards 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:31.160 and yeah, leopard print, pink glitter, and so someone made 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.520 a bunch of dolphins and it just looked like Lisa 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.240 Frank and I, honest to God, thought that that was 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.160 the poster, and I retweeted it and was also sad 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.360 that it was not, in fact going to be him 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.080 writing pink dolphins. I was like, going for you were 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.440 like genuinely hyped because I was like, whoa, that's such 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.880 a risk. I love it, you know, like I want 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.280 to see Jason Momoa writing rainbows. This is cool. I 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.920 actually enjoyed that because you know, yeah, that all command 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.120 love is there, like that fan art love is there. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.600 And when you think about it, um, having Aquaman do 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.880 something in a Lisa Frank way in any way shape 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 or formed like something as a as a web video 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.320 would be like Thor doing Thor and Darryl, his roommate Darryl. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.480 It would be like that. So if they went that 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:22.920 route some plus She's alone a literal fish out of water. Yeah. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.920 Then we had the Silver Age Aquaman who made his 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.200 appearance and adventure comics number to sixty on May nineteen 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.040 fifty nine. And you know what happened in May nineteen 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:39.440 fifty nine, right, that was oh um got his powers? No, no, no, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.600 that was I like to give little anecdotes about the 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.000 time when we say them and uh. And May nineteen 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.440 fifty nine was after the release of Some Like Some 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.120 Like It Hot. It dropped that March also twenty nine 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.400 years before me and Danny were born. And I gotta 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.760 say it was a great year because Aquaman he was 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.600 better than ever. And it was revealed that Aquaman was 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:11.080 Arthur Curry, son of Tom Curry, grandfather of Tim Curry. Uh. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.560 Which is a lighthouse keeper in Atlanta, a water breathing 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:19.280 outcast from the lost underwater city of Atlantis. That sounds 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.080 too much like Atlanta. Now I'm thinking of the Atlanta 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.320 Aquaman cross. You can you can call her Atlanta Atlanta. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:31.760 That might help to distinguish shot between that in Atlantis. Yeah, like, yeah, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.440 that's see. This is that early age comics where we 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.560 got real lazy with names like Atlanta from Atlantis? Uh? 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.600 Do we all? Does everyone in here? No? Black Bolt's 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.360 real name black Bolt from Marvel Comics. Real name is 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:52.680 black Agar Bolt. You know that. Scooby Doo's real name 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.840 is Scubert. No, Scubert Scobert. I don't want to believe. No. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.720 I was going to tweet to Maybe I'll do it later. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.560 Scooby Doo's full name. I made up the second part, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:08.480 but it should be Scubert Dubington. Subert, you always This 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.240 isn't the first time you told me that, and it 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.320 still makes me laugh because the last time he said 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:18.879 Scubert Dubert Scubert Dubington. Archer decided to use his talents 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.880 to become the defender of the Earth's oceans. It's a 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.960 noble cause. It was later revealed that he had, in 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.240 his youth adventured as Aqua Boy and on occasion met 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:34.760 super Boy, or only other publicly active superpowered hero at 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.440 the time. When Arthur grew up, he called himself aqua Man. Yeah, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.879 this seems like mixed up, because I mean, is this 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.480 a This is where we lean to Marcia, who is 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.159 an expert in d C. So is this Superboy, the 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.320 super Boy that we know today, or is this an 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.639 like the teen Titans Superboy where he's a Superman for 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:04.080 this silver Age Superboy, I don't believe that it is. Yeah, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.879 it's from this. Is it the same? Is it the 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.080 same one with a clone background for Superman? Because I 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.680 know that for later on I believe this is different. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:19.919 I think you're right, Okay, it's just Superman and yeah, exactly, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.640 yeah he was super Boy. Okay, so yeah, I mean 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.680 you have to think back. It was a simpler time 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.520 in the Silver Age comics. So it's like somebody is younger, 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.359 they'll be called super Boy and then they'll if you 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.720 go into yeah, this is a different one. He does 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.720 not look like a boy. Look at this Markia. Look 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.840 it's a sixteen birthday. That man is hardcore twenty five 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:45.720 years Is he is Lizzie McGuire sixteen? Yeah? Is Channing Tatum? 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.400 And um what was the one? She's the man? Yeah? 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.560 Channing Tatum in that. Yeah, you know, one well grown man. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.000 One would think that with that kind of mentality, that 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.480 if Bruce Wayne had taken on the cowl, you know, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.119 at an earlier age as opposed to like training to 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.439 get ready for to take on Gotham. He might have 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:10.400 been bad Boy eventually been Batman. Yeah, because that's close 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.720 to what I call Superman. Whenever he walks out the 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.320 house wearing something weird, I'm like super Boy. One of 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.040 one of the things that's really great about Aquaman that 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.680 I feel that people don't people don't realize because they think, oh, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.440 it's the guy that talks to fish kind of a thing. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.800 His rogues gallery is uh, pretty impressive. I mean, this 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.320 dude stabbed dark Side and the eye with this tritnant 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.119 Aquaman did that, you know that? And like some of 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.720 his other roadus, like for instance, with like continuing with 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.960 silver Age, with um At Lana, she yes, was an 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.879 exiled queen. There was this whole thing where she okay 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.960 with silver Age. It's like comics are hell of a drug. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:57.240 There's so much okay. So she was exiled, she had 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.840 author on land um knew that she couldn't bring him 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.760 back with her. She did go back where then she 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.680 was forced forced it was politics by the people, to 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.520 then marry another suitor where she then had another baby 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:17.120 orm Ocean Master, and one of the between that him 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.760 and Black Manta, I think are like the strongest my 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.080 favorite supervillains for Aquaman. Yeah, so it's good to know 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.359 that that happened when Yeah, it says here Arm disappeared 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.320 after becoming an Amnijack and would resurface years later as 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:37.320 Aquaman's nemesis, Ocean Master. Yeah, but I think I think 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.800 in Silver Age it was like reverse where I think 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:44.200 orm was on the sea, not on the sea on land. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.520 I think it was like that. But there are so 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.200 many like this has been red on so many times. 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.639 I will say, here's my my thing on Black Manta 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.960 is he's the only time in Silver Age DC that 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.439 I'm like, yeah, I'm glad you called him black Manta 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.439 because because when he pops off the helmet and he 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.560 is black, I'm like, oh, I didn't know. Thanks for 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.399 putting it in your name, bro, Like you don't need 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.200 it for black Lightning. I see, just be lightning, my guy. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.200 You know. Yeah, it's amazing. It was like with um 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.280 this is Marvel where they do black Maria for um 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.240 Luke Cage. You don't you don't have to do that. Yeah, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.159 you can just call her Strong Maria or you know, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.200 as Maria. But also black Manta is way harder than 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.879 like Manta, but like Lightning. That's like, oh that's a 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.920 good name. Could have been like death Manta or something. No, 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.119 I like black Man because he's like not just so 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:39.840 you know, so you know who I am under this mask. Uh. 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.600 So during this time, Aquaman's ability to talk with fish 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:47.720 eventually expanded to full fledged telepathic communication with sea creatures, 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:52.639 even from great distances. He also retroactively developed a specific weakness, 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:57.520 again to Superman's vulnerability to kryptonite. Uh. Kind of interesting 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.359 that they kind of a CURATORI ama this. It was 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.960 like going back retroactively, like, oh, by the way, he 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:07.080 also he's allergic to this. So Aquaman had to come 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.280 into contact with water at least once per hour or 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.959 he would die. Prior to this story, Aquaman could exist 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.440 both in and out of water indefinitely, which I think 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:20.280 our current Aquaman is like that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.000 I feel as far as I can gather with what 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.600 they're going forward with it, I feel like that was 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:30.560 just silly, like adding that ability rather kind of a thing. 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.680 They don't want to make him to opeque, but he 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.160 wasn't Like I can see if his power set because 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.720 you have someone like Daymore who you know, this comparison 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.840 is always going to be coming up because that was 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.040 Marvel's Aquaman. He was the first one. Yeah, he had 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.800 super strength, you know, outside, was sexy. Yeah, oh yeah, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.240 he was that dude essential. It's just like an arrogant 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.320 Oh yeah, it's just like yeah, and then and then 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.320 you have Arthur Curry, who's is a good guy, a 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.439 good guy, but he's a king and he's had to 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.640 make a lot of really tough decisions. Like what I'm 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.040 really interested in with with this movie, like what you 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.199 can read in the comics, but depending on who who 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.639 you're going, like Peter David's Aquaman, that's a whole different 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.280 kind of Aquaman than Jeff John's Aquaman. For instance, are 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:16.680 m Paul North and why Singer So with it, I 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.120 would like for them to do it where they do 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.879 comedic nuance and like building this world like for instance 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.440 Marvel did with Black Panther, because you have that with Aquaman. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.520 He is a king of the sea, that of the ocean, 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.520 two thirds of the earth, you know right there. He 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.239 has control over that, and there's this whole culture and 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:40.280