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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, it's Jaden Sanity

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Speaker 1: media mania.

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Speaker 2: All right, we review the Browns game. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: keep breaking history, a lot of fun stuff to review.

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Speaker 1: It is. We're previewing one of.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this game, the Baltimore game, and

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Speaker 3: then we got.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell no. It all starts right out. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with

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Speaker 2: Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and guys.

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Speaker 1: Are we like a.

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Speaker 3: Really good football team? Are the Commanders like?

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Speaker 1: Is that? I want to believe? I mean no, well no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Because you're acting like the fan base right now, where

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Speaker 4: you unsure if we're good or that, like stopping.

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Speaker 1: And just I didn't think that's the question though. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about it? I feel great.

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Speaker 4: I'd be smiling in my sleep every day, Like listen,

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Speaker 4: I love a little smile.

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Speaker 1: He first out, there's no easy wins in NFL.

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Speaker 4: Started starting off four and one, and it ain't just

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Speaker 4: before and one as high as being done. We're doing

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Speaker 4: it with a young quarterback that seems to be fearless.

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Speaker 4: We're doing it with a young quarterback that seems to

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Speaker 4: be poison a way that nothing bothers him. And I

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Speaker 4: think the team is taking that identity. Like you know,

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Speaker 4: belief is everything, and I think these guys believe any

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Speaker 4: field they step on, we are capable of beating whatever

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Speaker 4: steps in front of us.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they well belief. Just speaking of belief along, I

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Speaker 1: think you know, they're taking on the identity of the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff won the head coach and Dan Quinn or

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Speaker 1: for so many years of playing against him and watching

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Speaker 1: him coach on teams that this team actually played against.

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Speaker 1: It was a It was something unique about the way

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Speaker 1: those guys flew around the ball on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of they played happy. I saw it in Dallas, talked

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Speaker 1: about this last week. I saw it in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 1: damn show saw it in Seattle. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at the things that we're doing now, I just talk

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Speaker 1: about the new years. The last three years in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: we knew playing this team, we had no fear of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It always was a big riber because of

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Speaker 1: whatever the past, you know, history was about our game.

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Speaker 1: But until he came there, that defense was totally different

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Speaker 1: and it was impossible almost to go on that that

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Speaker 1: building or play them here and beat them, and I

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Speaker 1: us as a team, not just on defense, as a team.

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Speaker 1: We just talked about it briefly. How to receive was

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Speaker 1: a running down field trying to block for the other guys.

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Speaker 1: That's a mindset that he speaks about this all the time,

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Speaker 1: the brotherhood, being together, having your brother's back. All that

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Speaker 1: stuff is coming to forefront, and I think it's because

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Speaker 1: of what he's been preaching and teaching for since, you know,

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Speaker 1: since they won.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I asked the question because there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions coming into the season. You know,

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Speaker 2: some you know, offensive line questions, defensive line questions, talent

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Speaker 4: The side of greatness at the time, and said we

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Speaker 3: Can we can we check that out?

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Speaker 1: I say so?

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Speaker 2: First off, I think Tann and I were the ones

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Speaker 2: who said that specific thing. I said, because of scheme,

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Speaker 2: will be better. And now you're just trying to take.

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Speaker 4: Tail last you know that will I literally told you

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Speaker 4: I said the offensive lad gonna be better than peak.

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Speaker 1: Because I told you that. Because I told you that,

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Speaker 1: we told each other. How about we just do it?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so and then all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 2: but they're objectively playing good.

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Speaker 1: They playing dominate, let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: And I thought jayde Daniels was going to be good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to talk about the Browns game

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Speaker 2: I knew the defense was going to improve because the coaching,

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Speaker 2: it's the culture of the mindset. It all happens so quickly.

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Speaker 2: How many times have we had a new coach come

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, it's gonna take us four years incorporate.

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Speaker 1: We need to do. No.

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Speaker 4: They came in here business on their mind, and then

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Speaker 4: I think I had a lot to do with the

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Speaker 4: fact that you up rooted the whole roster, so there's

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Speaker 4: no lingering.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: That goes back to tennis point too though. You you said,

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Speaker 3: these are the guys.

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Speaker 2: This is the type of guy we want, is the

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Speaker 2: If you're not this guy.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. They not hunt talent, they they hunt types, types, characters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and definitely when you go to the stadium, it

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Speaker 2: the product on the field is different, but the crowd,

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Speaker 2: the environment, it all feels.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I was doing them on my my own feet of

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Speaker 4: this sun shines on nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Statement listen to me. Listen the energy it felt right.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking trash the Brown fans and it was the

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Speaker 4: best trash talking session about because when you talk trading

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Speaker 4: somebody they know, Like the Brown fan was looking at me,

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Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best. Like they're not

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Speaker 4: Like teams are saying, you know what, Washington, we got

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Speaker 4: to bring our hard hats. That's what they're saying, so

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Speaker 4: forget with how we feel in here. You can always

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it, I think when you

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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, that good, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess you can say some confidence in confidence what

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Speaker 1: that have right, we're electrified.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to say it, we have an offense that's

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Speaker 1: I have I have been a part of this team.

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Speaker 1: I have watched this team At no time in my career.

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Speaker 4: It ain't no time over the last twenty years I

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Speaker 4: ever thought that every time our office tested the field.

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Speaker 1: Like we go score like I feel they feel it.

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Speaker 4: I feel that every time like transweigh my this will retire.

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is I have never been as confidence

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Speaker 4: as I been over this last couple of weeks watching

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Speaker 4: I was even condenced out the temple and then why

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Speaker 1: I was not low like everybody else. I was like, dude, man,

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Speaker 1: this was our first time. Yeah, we said we also

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Speaker 1: lot of good out there, man, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know every on all twenty twelve

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Speaker 2: and feel similar. I'll tell you this right now. This

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Speaker 2: were really good in twenty twelve about finding exposive places.

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Speaker 1: Had to hit right.

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Speaker 4: We had to hit right and then and y'all molded

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Speaker 1: But I would say this when we had to. When

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Speaker 1: a tradense, traditional offense with a drop of the game.

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Speaker 1: It shows you then, too, what this offense could be

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Speaker 1: now was more of that John Elway style. Basically, you

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Speaker 1: Like it shows you that this office could be what

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Speaker 1: it wanted to be. You know. It's just you know,

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Speaker 1: these guys are great at coaching and putting it in place.

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Speaker 1: Who's the who's the quarterback? You know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But I think my my point there is that obviously

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Speaker 2: that's a great offense. We love that offense, Coyle's offense.

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Speaker 2: But the efficiency of this offense, the dynamism, that's a word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the dynamis love this. Yeah, it's a word. Looking up,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you did leave a comment. If it's

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Speaker 2: a real word, look it up. Not for fred dynamism,

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Speaker 2: but it's more dynamic, it's more efficient, And to me,

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Speaker 2: it all goes back to the play caller. They're not

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Speaker 2: all that stuff is really special.

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Speaker 1: But if you.

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Speaker 2: Want to, you guys can come to home games, and

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Speaker 2: I think you should come to home believe, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: we have tickets for the Panthers game, and we have

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Speaker 2: like a special what is it special event? Maybe is

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Speaker 2: the word We're going to use special ticket promo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a discount if you do these themes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so there's a link of the description and use

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Speaker 2: that link and as the promo code, use.

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Speaker 1: One of our names. So use.

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Speaker 3: First. I think you gotta write Santana the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of letters to write.

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Speaker 1: Say, Logan is a great names. Write that in and

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Speaker 1: then Fred.

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Speaker 4: Fan base, use free. It's the shortest to three. Listen,

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Speaker 4: I am the fan favorite. Use free it. It's an

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Speaker 4: easy way to get a come. I think you get

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Speaker 4: like a lot of money off of these tickets.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. That's a question for Jason C.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't expect anyone to vote for me,

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Speaker 2: So please vote for Fred or Santana.

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Speaker 1: They're doing it. Do a great job.

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Speaker 2: It's the same discount for everybody, the voter you want

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Speaker 2: to vote for. But yeah, the environment's electric. It's a

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Speaker 2: special opportunity. FedEx Field has been remodeled. Event your Northwest Field.

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Speaker 1: Sorry house.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's make sure you guys get out there

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Speaker 2: and check it out and if and if not for

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Speaker 2: the fact that you can see Fred in his element,

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Speaker 2: I have never seen a man more excited and just knows.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, every person at the Southwest Northwest, Southwest,

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Speaker 1: The Fed House, I do, I personally do.

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Speaker 1: It once to become repentitive. You do know everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible, yes, Jason.

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Speaker 4: Dynamism, dynamism, dynamism, dynamism, dynamism, so right or not?

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Speaker 4: Some of the best college unit points, always on point.

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Speaker 3: Mask, aren't you guys? Terrible this year too?

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Speaker 2: That quarterback man especially special, specially man especial. We have

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Speaker 4: Fans, please help us out with Fred Jayden sanity sounds weird,

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Speaker 1: When we do our previous with you, we will have

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Speaker 2: If that Cleveland offense had had any juice, those three

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Speaker 2: We can't run the ball we won on one, we

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Speaker 1: I can.

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Speaker 2: I can run versus zero, I can run versus man looks.

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Speaker 1: out there and really say, Okay, let me rewrite whatever

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00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: I did the first those first two series. Let me

440
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: write my wrongs right now. The defensive gave me chance

441
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: to go out here and do so. So that's that's

442
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 1: a great thing too, because we haven't seen that in

443
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: the past. We see on one side do their job.

444
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: On the other side, don't come out and do nothing.

445
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: You lay and then before you know it, the game

446
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: is out of hand because now the defense played it

447
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: behind off for a whole half. Offense hadn't caught up yet,

448
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,719
Speaker 1: or vice versas offense doing that thing. Defense can't stop anyone.

449
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: Before you know it, that team stuck around and then

450
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: now you letting them win the game. So to play

451
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 1: the way we've been seeing these guys play. We can

452
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: sit here and praise the offense for being what they

453
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: have shown us the last five weeks, but the only

454
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 1: way they can do what they do is the defense

455
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: out there doing what they've been doing for the last

456
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Speaker 1: five weeks two and that's playing. I want to get

457
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: coaches some love special team to the special teams is

458
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: flying around and then it ain't just one person. Man,

459
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 1: every time I look up, somebody peeling somebody's cap on

460
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: the kickoff team, on the punt team, and it's a

461
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: different person at free time.

462
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 4: Man, get some love of their special teams. People don't

463
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: like to talk and give them love.

464
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Speaker 1: I got give but we're talking about the culture and

465
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: that's part of the coach. I mean, you look from

466
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: every aspect of what we're doing out there on that field.

467
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 1: The team has the same mentatity. Every player is playing

468
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: with the same kind of aggression, the same tenacity. It

469
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: don't stop from a receiver to the running back to

470
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback, like that pass that he threw to Dayami

471
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: watched the sideline watch wash Cliff come on that field

472
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: and talking that like everybody has. They have the personality

473
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: of the guys that's out there and that's what you

474
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: want me, that's what you want to see. Swag bag.

475
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you mentioned the special teams like you get

476
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: Nick Bloor, you get Colson, Yankov, Bryce and Tremaine Jeremy.

477
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: Like they're taking they're taking times, they're playing, they're taking.

478
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: Turns, and they're playing so hard, like when you're on

479
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: the sideline. When I'm on the sideline watching the game,

480
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: it's it's physical, man, It's a physical mindset play. You

481
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: can see the defense playing with the same approach. You

482
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: mentioned the receivers. You know, on b Rob's touchdown, the

483
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: way Luke McCaffrey blocks that corner. It's got to be

484
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: four seconds, Like so b Rob breaks the tackle, right,

485
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: he's kind of standing there, his guy's on his leg.

486
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: Usually that corner comes up and closes in and it's

487
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 2: a four yard game or whatever. But what makes it

488
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: special is the effort is the effort of Luke to

489
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 2: just kind of hang in there.

490
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: Fight fight, fight, fight fight.

491
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 2: Then there's Terry running down the field on Austin Eckler's

492
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: run blocking Miles Garrett. Yeah, you know that was crazy

493
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: watching him run down the field like a huge deer, Like.

494
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: Listen, he's a monster, speaking of a guy who's coming

495
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: to save the day. That run that I'm not sure

496
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: if it was the screen or to run it was.

497
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: It was a big run, big run. Is the key

498
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: is done him. He doesn't get that fumbled. What they do,

499
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. So it's just like it was

500
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: forty fifty yards down the field, there's a key. He

501
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: came from the other side of the field.

502
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: So and to talk about something special like I remember

503
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: watching you probably remember Sanda like watching film with Kyle

504
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. He was like the reason that this

505
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: team is special because everyone is playing to the whistle,

506
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: and so he'd show a clip of Pierre or like

507
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: busting hump. He's the backside receiver, he's blocking the post safety.

508
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: You know, d Y just cutting the fo you know,

509
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: like everyone was playing for each other at a high level.

510
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: And the thing that gets me so juice and Tann

511
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: has talked about this already a ton is Obviously the

512
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: offenses are different, the defenses are different from twenty twelve

513
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: to two thousand and twenty four. But the energy that

514
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm getting from this team feels very, very.

515
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Very similar, and the confidence is very very similar.

516
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: And so you talked about it wasn't clean, but the

517
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: ability to be like, I'm confident enough to handle this adversity, yeah,

518
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: and getting here to make plays.

519
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it's also really cool. And no, I you know,

520
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I've said is that nauseum at times throughout my career

521
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: when I was asked, you know what was it about,

522
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, being a receiver and London, all the talk

523
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: about Tan why you want a diva? Because I guess

524
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: because I learned how to play football on both sides.

525
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: I tell you I played defense a whole time growing up,

526
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: and I play offense. But when I got to the

527
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: offensive side, even though I'm a receiver and not only

528
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: can function or be the guy who I want to

529
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: be at receivers getting the ball, you still have to

530
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: play football. It's still a job. It's still a task. Look,

531
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Wayne Krebbet told me something when I was a jet

532
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: about blocking, and I have been blocking all my life,

533
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: but he said, bro, it feels so good when you're

534
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: the key block to the runners backs touchdown. It almost

535
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: felt like your quarter, that quarter touchdown pass. I remember

536
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: playing Seattle five years or later, and I had been

537
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: blocking my behind off since since, you know, since my

538
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: early years of playing ball. But I remember having nothing,

539
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: no effect on the game, you know, receiver wise, I

540
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: wasn't catching no passes. I wasn't getting no passes thrown.

541
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: It was jewelry out there. Royce Hulou ran the ball

542
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: we needed to score to go up, and I went

543
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: in there and I ain't have to crack nobody. I

544
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: just went in there and put my body in a

545
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: way and make sure that I gave him the path

546
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: to run off of my behind. And he scored that touchdown.

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: And the first thing Karle said was, how does that feel?

548
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: And I say, like, I just like we just had

549
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: it won a super Bowl because it was my block.

550
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm getting from these guys. I'm seeing

551
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: these guys all bez Man. They flying around trying to

552
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: make a difference in every play. You know, we're talking

553
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: about winning your down and winning it down. Oh you

554
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: know what, you my guy, I ain't getting the ball.

555
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: I'mna make sure that you're not in the plate. You're

556
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: not going to be on the tackle. So that's what

557
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm living about it because I think that alone right

558
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: there is allowing you to have the success that this

559
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: team is happening. And I my brother's keep Yeah. And

560
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: you just reminded me of something.

561
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: You remember your touchdown in twenty twelve against the Giants

562
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: where you cut that tunnel screen and score.

563
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and use my block.

564
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we ran that play probably five times in that game.

565
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: And so my job on the backside tight end, I

566
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: got to run a block the far safety. You gotta

567
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: run a block them every single time. So we run

568
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: it probably five times. So the whole game you're busting

569
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 2: hump over there, and it's tackle for five six our game.

570
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: And so the one time you do it yeah, it's

571
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: like it matters the most. And I think that's the thing.

572
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: Is like, obviously we're pointing out these moments where there

573
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: were tremendous plays happening. But if you watch even the

574
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: most boring, mundane plays in this offense, now with the

575
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: with the commanders, you see guys doing giving that extra effort,

576
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: going that extra mile, and that's where you get. You

577
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: make the consistency of the offense more acute, which is

578
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: really special. So obviously there was a lot going on here,

579
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: and let's talk about the complementary football thing because I

580
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: think that, to me is maybe the biggest point of

581
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: this game. It started off slow, defense came out with

582
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: the hair on fire. Cleveland's offense is I don't know

583
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: how to say this, maybe maybe the worst offense I've

584
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: seen in the NFL.

585
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: No, it is the worst. Ain't no, Maybe maybe I'll

586
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: be king to mom. I'm telling you is the worst.

587
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: DESHAULN.

588
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: Watson I was a fan as when he was young.

589
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: I have never seen a player they played with so

590
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: much unhappiness.

591
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's not physical with him, I mean a

592
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: magic going. I mean, let's just be honest. Look, I'm

593
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: a fan too, I'm gonna sit here and be the

594
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: first to tell you the magic gone.

595
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: I mean whatever it was played with them in Houston,

596
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: player with the Houston he was the best player I

597
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: ever played with. And you get in the huddle like

598
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: this guy is, You're gonna make some happen. He's gonna

599
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: make something happen. We believe that he was a great leader.

600
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: Obviously there's the off field stuff, but he was. There's

601
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: a reason he was the third best quarterback in the

602
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: NFL in two thousand. He was amazing.

603
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: And I just don't see any of that players in

604
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: there no more. Yeah, you know, his soul is missing.

605
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: It's not I don't know what it is. I just

606
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, as players, you know, we superstitious.

607
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: It's all I know. And you know how we play games.

608
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: We say, you know, we had that little game Bouret

609
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: and something happened in the game and he's like, oh

610
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: the boot guard football guard shining on him differently. Now,

611
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what what made it happen

612
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: this way. Maybe it's something of that stuff that he

613
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: went through legally, you know, off the field. But the

614
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: football guard just ain't in his favor no more. And

615
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I think you see it so much to the point

616
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: where even the simplest throws he's not making them. I mean,

617
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: he got outside the pocket and the guy was right

618
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: there and he knew it five yards behind him. And

619
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, tanna.

620
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: I had never seen so many balls overthrowing it by life,

621
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: overthrown under every.

622
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: Time I look up, the ball bouncing off the ground

623
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: like this was like, it's to the point now I

624
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: feel like the I like the Brown staff is just like,

625
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: we gotta play because we we we he he can't.

626
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: The King's Ransom got play fairly.

627
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Ownership was like, you have to play them. That's the

628
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: rumor right now. And I'm not reporting anything. That's the

629
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: rumor around the street.

630
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: You can look into you because they don't because they're

631
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: not happy. I'm watching the coach. I'm like, man, they

632
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: want this dude out of there right now.

633
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: And that on the sideline, I'm talking some of the

634
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: worst body language you've ever seen from him, from the

635
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: old line, from every receivers. And so that being said,

636
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: defense came out did its thing. I thought back the

637
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: secondary played well, Saint juiced. I mean, he's getting better

638
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: each week, just confident quandnfidence want fly into the ball,

639
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: flying to the ball.

640
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: A lot of fun to watch, Sat shocking me playing some.

641
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: Good ball man.

642
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Well he might be. Arguably he might be. I best

643
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: go on him and then Sanders Shill. I thought this

644
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: was his best game as a commander. Apple tackles a

645
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: couple of pbu's great job there, I mean the middle

646
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: of this defense.

647
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: So frank you, Bobby Wagner manas many and double we

648
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: need a due. Yeah, that dude, what.

649
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: We gotta start doing in the fan in the stage.

650
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: I used to live when y'all see it, my next food,

651
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: all this one. So now we got to switching to.

652
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: It might sound it might sound too much like Luke,

653
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: because Luke got his own thing. Now they say I

654
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: started less. I say, Luke Manye how many five weeks

655
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: he got? I say, ship Man. That is amazing man.

656
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that was really cool.

657
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: But I mean, frank you, Louvu the physicality on the blitzes.

658
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: I thought the run fits were much better. Again Cleveland

659
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: didn't do So what's what is?

660
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: What is?

661
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: This team had our time with him, had our time

662
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: with counterpower, trap anytime up of pullers. They didn't pull

663
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: anybody until like midway through the third quarter. It was

664
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: a twenty five yard game, so I don't know what

665
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: they're doing on that side of the football. Butt you

666
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: got to take the test that's given, and they did

667
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: a great job. Run fits were much better. Tight run

668
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: fits physical John Deran.

669
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: The defensive line was very disruptive. YEA, Like sometimes that's

670
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: saying what you need. I need you to get people

671
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: off of a spot. I need you to get running

672
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: back clothes dirty, and I need you to punch tight

673
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: ends in the face. Yeah, and this is what they need.

674
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: I think they did there for four quarter. This is

675
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: probably the best group session I've seen from the defensive line,

676
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: Like all of them was getting at there.

677
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: And I thought you'd appreciate this, Fred, Like they were

678
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: running a lot of Tampa tuo and these third long situations,

679
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: and I thought the corners did a great job of

680
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: getting we round, getting depth in their Tampa two so

681
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: that you can't throw the corner.

682
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: I've come back down too. Yeah, we're going to rally

683
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: and tackle.

684
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: It.

685
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Did a great job with that.

686
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: The blitz packages by Joe Wood Junior were awesome, like

687
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: the cross dogs internally with Frankie and Bobby were great,

688
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: so lots of really positive things, and it allowed the

689
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: offense to kind of find its geared to just kind.

690
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Of but that's what good teams do.

691
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it this quarter, you take it the next,

692
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: all right, Like that's what teams do.

693
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: They got each other back. Everything we've been in.

694
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: The Cinderella world for because the stuff we've been doing

695
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: is so record breaking, so we know honestly can't stay

696
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: that high.

697
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: But our new norm is somewhere in between. And that's

698
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: what we need to understand.

699
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: Like with a quarterback like this, the new norm is

700
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: anytime it's four quarters of football being played, we got

701
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: a chance.

702
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Today. Coach said that he has a slogan and I

703
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: don't know I'm gonna correct it, but like he said,

704
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: anybody anytime, anywhere, however he put in place any place

705
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: like that's how you watch it, that's how they play,

706
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like and then you know,

707
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: just talking about the new norm is, you know, we

708
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: come out the second half and we fumbled the ball.

709
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Terry gets hit the ball, and the defense back out

710
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: there say, now we're gonna be got you back. You

711
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, got you back? That's that's the

712
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: new norm. You these guys have each other's back. That's

713
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: the brotherhood that we and these guys play with.

714
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, even after the interception, they get a three

715
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: and out, they punt. It's a short field. They drive offense,

716
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: drive down, score touchdown. And you don't get that if

717
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: they don't get a three and out. Let's say they

718
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: get two first downs, they're on the thirty yard line,

719
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: they punt. I means you're getting that ball back on

720
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: your twenty. And that's how it's hard to score that way.

721
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: And said you get the ball in the fifty, go

722
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: score touchdown. Yeah, And so that's get's complimentary football. That's

723
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: something I'm really excited about. And just to give it

724
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: some contact. So the last two games, Washington has more

725
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: than doubled the opponent's total yards, more than doubled seven

726
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: seven and thirty two yards the three sixty three.

727
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: That's absolutely insane.

728
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: And we just talked about how bad Cleveland, but still

729
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: that's an NFL football team, it is. So that's something

730
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: else that I just is these last two games have

731
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: been crazy from a complimentary football standpoint. Now, the thing

732
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: that I want to kind of we're going to kind

733
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: of bleed in here to Baltimore. All right, this is

734
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: going to be maybe the biggest challenge of the entire year.

735
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: When you look at the schedule, this is the best

736
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: team they play. Yes, sure, right this Baltimore.

737
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: No, even like look at the rest of the well,

738
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Tampa was was a pretty tough out.

739
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: What I'm saying after this, we've got like New Orleans,

740
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: You've got the Panthers, We've got the Giants, We've got Philly,

741
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: we've got the Bears. This is this is a super

742
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Bowl team. Yah, Baltimore, right, and this it's gonna be

743
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: much harder to keep the game flow that we've had

744
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, I don't think.

745
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: So, Okay, let's talk about it. This is why I

746
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: say we're talking to a team about a team now.

747
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: And one thing we can say about Baltimore is they

748
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: identity for a long time has been we're gonna hit

749
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: you in the mouth on the offense, and then defense,

750
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna shut you down.

751
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: They have not been that shit down defense all right.

752
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: Passing they ranked thirty first, now they ranked high and

753
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: stop of the run because people are not they don't

754
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: need to run against them.

755
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: They're throwing the ball against them.

756
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: So this is not your daddy's Ravens defense right here.

757
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: They're having problems. They're playing bad in the back end

758
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: right now. They have no pass rush. And if you

759
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: have no pass rush against a guy like Jaydon Daniels,

760
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: he eventually might not be the first quarter, but eventually

761
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: he's gonna score points at the end of the day.

762
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: This is a New World Order situation. This ain't your

763
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: grandmama's Washington. Commanders were coming in here, we coming to Baltimore.

764
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, tell the people in Baltimore, Oh my

765
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: coming to town. We coming Oh ma, oh my, you

766
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: don't know Omar from Newaiian.

767
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh I got you, O my coming to town.

768
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Sometimes when I feel

769
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: like he's cutting like a wrestling promo, it.

770
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: Did sound like that. I was. I was almost getting geeked.

771
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: Oh it's your mama's Washington.

772
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 4: I feel when somebody in Baltimore run down the screen

773
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: and say, hey, oh my coming.

774
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: You don't know what that new to me? Now I

775
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: feel free. I think for so many years Baltimore has

776
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: bully bully folks, you know what I mean. They've been

777
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: the bullies of the NFL. They found the way to

778
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: punch in the mount on the defensive side of the ball.

779
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: They got after you. They were so aggressive. They played

780
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: with the same kind of you know, our hair on

781
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: fire type of attitude that our defense is playing with

782
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: right now. And then offensively, they have that secret weapon

783
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: that we have right now that you can't really you

784
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: can't really dictate nothing with him because you have a

785
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that can he can pull it and do

786
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: what he can do. And when twent he's throwing the ball,

787
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: if it ain't clear to him, he always found a

788
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: way to be you know, magical, you know, found a

789
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: way to do something with his feet. I think we

790
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: have that going for us. I think what what makes

791
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: this an interesting game for us? One, Yes, Baltimore might

792
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: be the best team that we're probably gonna be facing,

793
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, in this early twenty twenty fourth season. I

794
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: think Tampa can give him a run for the money.

795
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Me with that, me too, But so far from the

796
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: last few weeks, Baltimore stands out. But I feel like

797
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: we have the right kind of team to stop through

798
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: what they do best. They're gonna run the ball with

799
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: King Henry. We got two guys on our second level

800
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: of defense that don't care. Don't bring him over here.

801
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: We chop down trees. Let'll show you how we do that.

802
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Then they have a guy that's electrifying that quarterback. Guess what,

803
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: don't come out here with that, but we're gonna hit you.

804
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna hitch in your mouth from our cornerbacks, my

805
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: safeties and our guys are run. And then it's to

806
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: me where their handicap at, which is I'm not saying

807
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: handicap the receiver position. That's where it's. That's where they

808
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really you know, benefit them, because don't get me wrong,

809
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have I can't say the best

810
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: secondary in the world. But what I've seen from my secondary,

811
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: they took what happened to them earlier this year and say,

812
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: guess what, We're gonna build off of that, and we're

813
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: gonna learn how to play together because we play more

814
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: together now, we can be as one and we can

815
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: stop guys. Individual guys like guys like the Jamar Chases

816
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: and guys like the t Higgins of the world. They

817
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: don't have one of them. They have capable guys. They

818
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: have a little they have a little likely, and that's

819
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: what to me, I think more than anything likely would

820
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: be the I want to see how we match up

821
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: with him. Do we bring a safety down, do we

822
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: want to put a corner in and stick him? Because

823
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the guy that if

824
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: they get him going, that's what we're going to kind

825
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: of shift and make.

826
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: Us at this team and take take the take the

827
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: bird off to him. We got a great quarterback, they

828
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: got a great quarterback. They got a great running back.

829
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: That's way it stops, right. They got two great tight ends.

830
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: They're not utilizing one of them to great. The offensive

831
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: line is not what they used to be. They're not

832
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 4: depending on the pass game like they usually do because

833
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: King Henry is running the ball.

834
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: They have a defense that's up and down.

835
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: And Justin Tuck, the most perfect kicker in the world,

836
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 4: is having a down year.

837
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: So to give some guy, I think that's the great

838
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: analysis by both you guys should give you some context

839
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: of this. This rushing offense is the number one rushing

840
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: offense in the NFL.

841
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: Don't shocked, right, doesn't shock yet?

842
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: They run the quarterback, They've got justice Justin Hill, really

843
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: explos explosive, fast, scap back. They've got three hundred pound

844
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: full back Patrick Ricard, They've got Derrick Henry, they've got

845
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: a great blocking tight end and Charlie Kolar. They can

846
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: get after you in the run game kind of however

847
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: they want. You watch the Bills game, they were like,

848
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: put your mouth piece in. We're gonna put the fullback

849
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: in the game and you guys won't be able to

850
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: stop us. You watch the Dallas game. We're gonna run

851
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: a lot of zone read. We're gonna get to the perimeter,

852
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: and then the change ups Derrick Henry. They've got a

853
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: lot of ways to run the football. And I look

854
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: at some of the things that this team has struggled

855
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: with the Commanders, it's stopping the run, and you're gonna

856
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: get multiple different schemes. You're gonna get GT, you're gonna

857
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: get counter, you're gonna get power, you're gonna get outsidezone,

858
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: you're gonnat inside zone. You're gonna get zone read, you're

859
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: gonna get RPOs.

860
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: It's all on the table.

861
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: And I think it's just what it does is they're

862
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: so predicated with the quarterback run scheme. It makes you

863
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: really flat, gets you really horizontal, equal, it makes you

864
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: really horizontal. Now, I will say to Tennis point, I

865
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: think this is a great point by him. They don't

866
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: have a lot of vertical speed on the outside, so

867
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: you can feel comfortable playing flat with them. However, when

868
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: you watch the Bills game for example, excuse me, they

869
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: started using Z flowers to kind of create that vertical

870
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: stretch and it started to open up Isaiah Likely it's

871
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: you know, Bateman, these other receivers underneath, they are problematic. Now,

872
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: I will say this also when you watch Lamar against Cincinnati,

873
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: they're not very efficient down to down when they're not

874
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: running the football, they don't they're not very efficient, so you.

875
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Can kind of win them.

876
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: But then, like Tennis said, I think Lamar is probably

877
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in the NFL right now.

878
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: It's easily and nobody's.

879
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: Going to second best quarterback in the NFL like he's

880
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: straight balling, So you always have to negotiate that. So

881
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: even though they're not the Baltimore Ravens of.

882
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: They got a new way of winning.

883
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but their offense is their offense is I'm going

884
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: to say the best offense they've played this year would

885
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: terms of like it kind of being this team's kryptonite from.

886
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: A defensive standpoint, could you agree me on this one?

887
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: If we start out fast, they are not what I

888
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: call a get back in the game team, because.

889
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: Now you take the running game out.

890
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: If we get to Baltimore and we jump out fast,

891
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: like we're like we tend to do with teams, we

892
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: race their game plan.

893
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Now that he got to pass the ball.

894
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying, if we start fast, I don't

895
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: then they can't be Baltimore.

896
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think you even have to start fast.

897
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: If we go punch for punch, they're gonna try to

898
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: change it up then too, because if you're saying, okay,

899
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: well damn, they score and we scored, we scored, they

900
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: scored again. Now they're gonna say, okay, let's let's slow

901
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: it down or let's let's do something different, because it

902
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: seemed like they're going to toe for toe. Because all

903
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: you need, you know, you know how these games are

904
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: won when you have two teams that's similar or that's

905
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: you know, not even similar far as how we play,

906
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: but that can play. That's good enough to go out

907
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: there and score with you. When you have a team

908
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: that can do that. The other thing that decides these

909
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of outcomes is one turnovers and penalties. You see

910
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, which we've been clean on one of

911
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: the things. One of the things that we've been good

912
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: with is being efficient enough when it comes to taking

913
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: care of the ball and not having so many miscues.

914
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: So that's to me, it's gonna be where I think

915
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: this game is won and loss that league. You're going

916
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: into somebody's backyard. It's gonna be loud. They probably gonna

917
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: have that black on. They're gonna proper had that purple

918
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: pan with black. Don't take over that stadium. I got faith.

919
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I got faith.

920
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: We're gonna go up that Bellway and it's gonna be

921
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: burning in go all over there.

922
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm listen. I'm ready to see it.

923
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: Because what the fan base probably ain't failed like we

924
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: had a legit chance to go up there and showed

925
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: them what we got.

926
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: In years we on fire.

927
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: You look at Arizona went took over the stadium, Tampa

928
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: went took over the stadium. So I wouldn't DoPT the

929
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: fans that we don't take over Baltimore.

930
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: The other thing, I so you mentioned game flow and

931
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: they were down by ten to the Cincinnati Bengals last week.

932
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: And they came back in one again. Lamar was kind

933
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: of sleeping. That's a divisional gay. I don't like to

934
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: the division.

935
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: So this is where I get concerned, is what if

936
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: they come out and we're having a hard time stopping

937
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: the run and there defensively, now, I know they're not

938
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: what they've been, but Kylevin Oil leads the team in

939
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: sacks and thing he's got like six sacks this year

940
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: is able to create pressure. Da fey Alway great pass

941
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: rusher for Penn State. What's his name is? Because a

942
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: lot of pressures.

943
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of pressure, but he can and I

944
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: don't even know how to say.

945
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: They're who's their guy? They just paid in and bok.

946
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing a great job in terms of running,

947
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: stopping the run, being physical. Travis Jones, the guy from

948
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: Yukon a couple years ago, physical inside, They.

949
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Have pieces up front.

950
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: What if we have a hard time stopping the run

951
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: their defense, because they do bring a lot of these

952
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: kind of weird zone pressures that are really hard to diagnose.

953
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: James flummixed the game. Flow starts like it did versus Cleveland,

954
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: but instead of getting three and outs on consecutive drives,

955
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: it's fourteen to zero. What does that do to us offensively?

956
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Because we've all think about it every game this year.

957
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 2: We've been in a very favorable game. We've been able

958
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: to run the football, we've been able to do exactly

959
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: what we want to do.

960
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: So that's my question is what is this?

961
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: Because you mentioned we talked about they run like a

962
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: little bit of a bumpy road, right, unpaved road against Cleveland.

963
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this could become a.

964
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: Third road, gravel, sand pit road here versus this team

965
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: because of how talented.

966
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: That well one, I ain't gonna say that that that

967
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I'm gonna say. I'm not gonna

968
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: put it out in the air. I feel what you're

969
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: saying asking the question question is like what if? What?

970
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: How do they respond? You know, well, I think you,

971
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you have you have the key. I mean,

972
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: I think the kids went with Jaden. I think one

973
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: of the things that have stood out to me thus

974
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: far as he finds a way, you know what I'm saying.

975
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: He finds a way to get us going even when

976
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: things are bumpy, even when things are great. And that's

977
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: what I love about him. Like if it ain't there

978
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: when he drops back. Guess what, man, I know how

979
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: to play this game. It's about moving the change. I'm

980
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna get us close enough to where we can take

981
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: advantage of this. Like one of the things I think

982
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have going for us, which they do well,

983
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: which they have been known for doing well, that's stopping

984
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: the run. I think we got. We got a three

985
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: headed monster. Man. The way they're using our run game,

986
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: it's not you know, for so many years was the

987
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: run game was predicated on how you put stuff that

988
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: ball and that running back billy and let him go

989
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: out there and get his yars. It's not that no more.

990
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: We can do it many different ways. We can put

991
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: them in screens to do it every way, they can

992
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: do it. Every way they can do it. So I

993
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: feel like that's what we have going for us this

994
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: year when things are not going well. If things get

995
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: to the point where they're not going well, we have

996
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: enough playmakers on this team that we can say, hey, Jaden,

997
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to do nothing special. Take what you

998
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: take what you see, take what they give you, and

999
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: we'll be all right. But give these guys the ball

1000
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: and let them do work. And I've been bro I've

1001
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: been sitting back in awe watching Echolo. The way he

1002
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: runs the ball at the opportunities he's getting it almost

1003
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: reminds me. And I don't want to just say this

1004
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: because it's me, but remember in twenty twelve when my

1005
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: position changed and I was more of a third down guy,

1006
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: every time I got that ball thrown to me, I

1007
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: made I made it count. And that's what I'm seeing

1008
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: from Ekler. Every time he gets a change. He might

1009
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: not be the starter, but when he gets the opportunity

1010
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: to touch that run, he makes it count. So that's

1011
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: what we have going for. We have guys out there

1012
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: that's want to lay it on the line when that

1013
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: number is called, and I think, you know, if and

1014
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: when it gets great, we have the answer for it.

1015
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1016
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: I think we talked about the culture a lot against

1017
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and how that's been cool to see

1018
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: and this is going to be I think a really

1019
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: coach and hick. Yeah, I think so this is this

1020
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: is a super team. You need this type of game.

1021
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: I love it and I think, you know, I was

1022
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: thinking Cincinnati was kind of the same thing. And they met,

1023
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: they met that they met the challenge. Yeah, going toe

1024
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: to toe with Joe Burrow put up a lot of

1025
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: points and there was a lot of adversity in that game.

1026
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: This is going to be a different type of adversity,

1027
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: I guess, is what I'm saying. The other thing I

1028
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: want to ask you, Fred, because you're a defensive guy,

1029
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: is they face a very similar rushing attack to ours

1030
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: with the quarterback run stuff. Do you think that gives

1031
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: them an edge with some of our quarterback design runs.

1032
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Give both of us as seeing the same thing. Get practice.

1033
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: They see a runner, we see a runner, I'll run.

1034
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: It just happened to be to meet a tad bit

1035
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: more of a touch passes being it.

1036
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: But it is crazy because like I wasn't I don't

1037
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: want to like because Lamar's a beast, But watching the

1038
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: last couple of games, I think Jaden's a little bit

1039
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: more efficient through.

1040
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: Let's just say this, Jaden entered the league a better

1041
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: passer than Lamar was when he entered the league.

1042
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Let's just say that, all right.

1043
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I think both

1044
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: both defenses are gonna say we practice against this, but

1045
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: we still don't know how they finish attacks, Like, are

1046
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: we gonna get a gigantic dose of King Henry. So

1047
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: they if I'm Baltimore and I see what we're doing,

1048
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 4: the first thing I'm gonna say is, all right, Henry,

1049
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: we got to keep this ball off the field. We

1050
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 4: got we gotta keep this Jadon Daniels off the field.

1051
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: We figure you about thirty times, because then the game

1052
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: is ugly, it's marked up. I would guess what what

1053
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: if we thinking the same thing, b Rob, We need

1054
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: to keep Lamar Jackson off the field. So this game,

1055
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: for everything, everybody think it could be fireworks.

1056
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: This could easily be a ten to seven game. I

1057
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: think I think Lamar's a phenomenal talent period. You know,

1058
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: I've always thought highly up and I watched him in

1059
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: Louisville I'm talking about I thought he was a better

1060
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: throw then they gave him, you know, you know, yeah,

1061
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying far as

1062
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: you know they didn't give him that, saying that he

1063
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: can do both. But I've always looked at him as man,

1064
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: This man can do whatever they ask him to do.

1065
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, he has a phenomenal It might not be

1066
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: as accurate as we saw, and some guys especially like

1067
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: a guy guy like Jayden. I think that's what Jayden

1068
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: has more going for it self, more than anything, but

1069
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: his talent where he can go with his game alone.

1070
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: It is always going to put you in that situation

1071
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: where you have to be mindful of that. You have

1072
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: to be mindful that, hey, man, this man if he

1073
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: want to say today, I'm going to tuck this ball

1074
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: and go out there and be that and be that

1075
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: playmaker of oh, which I'm sure they don't want to,

1076
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, you know, they don't want to have their

1077
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: game run through his legs. He can do it, though,

1078
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: But with all that being said, I want to see

1079
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 1: us be able to say, Okay, King Hearing is gonna

1080
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: have to beat us, because if he don't, now they're

1081
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to drop back and through the ball. And

1082
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: then that's what it's going to come. Not to say

1083
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: that Lamar canthrow, because he can. But if you, if you,

1084
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: if you're playing the kind of defense that we've been playing,

1085
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: disrupt the butt front sticky enough on a sticky enough

1086
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: on the outside. Now the precision part up is going

1087
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: to have to come in and play. Can't he be

1088
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: accurate enough to get that ball from out of my hand,

1089
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: but he got me at the time and tires. What

1090
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying again, you know what I'm saying. So I

1091
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: think that's what's going to probably gonna be the thing

1092
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for the most. Can we put them

1093
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: in one of them kind of games where hey be

1094
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: the thrower that you say you are. You know what

1095
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1096
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 2: I think that's a that's a really really good point

1097
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: in because you look at the games h Dallas the Bills,

1098
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 2: they basically ran buck shot. They did whatever they wanted.

1099
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: It's you know, Zoone Reid or running GT with the quarterback.

1100
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: Ke Henry's got a sixty yard run. It was like

1101
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: whatever I mean. They rushed for over two undre yards. Yeah,

1102
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: Like Derek Henry had one hundred and ninety yards rushing

1103
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: against the Bills. They've they're number one in the league

1104
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: and rushing for a reason.

1105
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because I think we're probably number two, right, I.

1106
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Don't know, but they're but they're they're their front they

1107
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: kind of use their rushing attack as their quick game

1108
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: passing attack.

1109
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1110
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: And so if you can stop that and get them

1111
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: in these bad mentions, is they it's not sharp enough

1112
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: from a passing game standpoint.

1113
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: I think that's your best shot. Yep. Is it gonna

1114
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: be hard? Yeah, because he's electric.

1115
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 4: But that's why I say, stuff the run. Just good enough,

1116
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 4: get an offense. If the offense get up, just get up,

1117
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: just by a lid bit. The panic mode kicks in

1118
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 4: because they gonna look at this team and say, this

1119
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: team puts up points. Washing it puts some points. So

1120
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: now you get into a panic mode and now you start.

1121
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: To throw the ball a tad bit more. Yeah. Yeah.

1122
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that's this is just

1123
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: a fun little anecdote from me is one of the

1124
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: scariest things I've seen them do is when Patrick har

1125
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: Card is in the dot and Derrick Henry's behind them.

1126
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: Is so sick because they have a big, physical offensive

1127
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: line and Patrik er Card has got to be the

1128
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: most physical full back of the first.

1129
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: Of all, think about this, Think about this logan. I

1130
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: know you're a huge man. Think about a cornerback my

1131
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: size and you're running five hundred.

1132
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: And sixty pound at him.

1133
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot three hundred pounds four back in a

1134
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty pound tail. There's five hundred pounds plus.

1135
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: You better be ready for that.

1136
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: And he puts his hat on people. It's it's gross.

1137
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he moves. We but you know, we played this

1138
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: game and we don't look at it like that. We

1139
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: don't look at all that way and stuff. R Fred,

1140
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: I've seen him make business decisions.

1141
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: Listen, but the only way I could be living today.

1142
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: But that's one of the reason why I didn't play

1143
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: the position no more because I knew, Look, but his

1144
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: body ain't gonna be taking too many of them kind

1145
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: of hits, you know what I mean. I can probably

1146
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: take them in and lay them more than I can audition.

1147
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: But nah, I mean, I just feel like, man, it's

1148
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the matches and I feel, you know,

1149
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: to say the least. Man, I think our team is

1150
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: battle tested enough on the road this year thus far.

1151
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Win the temper It wasn't it wasn't perfecty or perfect,

1152
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: but they went out there and still gave four game.

1153
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: They went in the Cincinnati on Monday night. I feel

1154
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: realized that was that was Monday night, and every blow

1155
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: they took, they sat up, They went out there and

1156
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: gave them some They ready for whatever Balton was going to.

1157
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: Know what you got, Jason.

1158
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, just the stats answer your question. The Ravens are

1159
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: number one in rushing offense. Commanders are number two. Ravens

1160
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 5: have a crazy six point one yards per carry average

1161
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: isn't seene, But we're tied with them for a twenty

1162
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: plus forty plus we're tied with that, and we have

1163
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 5: more rushing touchdowns.

1164
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so's it's even for the.

1165
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 4: First time, the damn Ravens got to look in the

1166
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: mirror and they see us, and we look just like them.

1167
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: We looked just like that. I know this is not

1168
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: on the topic we're talking about, but we talked about

1169
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: last week that b Rob hadn't had a home touch

1170
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: that and he did any Like I said, we're breaking

1171
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: all the noise. I want to get him.

1172
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: I want to get broke the norm about came in

1173
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: on Monday night. We broke the norm about b Rob

1174
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 4: not's going at home. We'll get what we ain't renting

1175
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: in Baltimore.

1176
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: How about we break that norm to Yeah.

1177
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I haven't been this excited to watch

1178
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: a game here in a long time.

1179
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah I have. I mean, this is going to be

1180
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: so much heavyweight mountain man. Wait to say that when

1181
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: you've been working here for long.

1182
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying that there's something different about it.

1183
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: Different, so different like with the quarterback, with the head coach,

1184
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: do ownership, and like you're saying, like when was the

1185
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: last time, when was the last time we could look

1186
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: at we could look across the Beltway and be like

1187
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: to down. Okay, let's go down twill.

1188
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Remember they came here and we went to to toe

1189
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: with them and didn't want it after they hurt Robert,

1190
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's that's what I'm saying.

1191
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: It feels special, and it feels like this is it

1192
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: means something, it feels like and it feels like a

1193
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: really legitimate measuring stick as opposed to sometimes over the

1194
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: last couple of years where it's been like this is going.

1195
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: To be tough, you know what I mean?

1196
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: This it seems like like to your point, there's a

1197
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: there's a pathway to get there, all right now?

1198
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: Hell yeah or hell no? This is a fan favorite.

1199
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Everyone loves these, So that's a tough one for the

1200
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: first one. Let's go give the defense will four sacks

1201
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: again this week against the Ravens.

1202
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: They come in bunches. I'm gonna say hell yeah, because

1203
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: this is what I do. Hope. I told you what.

1204
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that the office store is so fast that

1205
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: it turns the Ravens into a throwing team. And if

1206
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 4: they turn into a throwing team, I know one thing

1207
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 4: about Lamar. He loved to run around back there. These

1208
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: guys could chase him down for a couple of sacks

1209
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 4: and two.

1210
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know, I see it's getting back there

1211
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: getting him a couple of times. But I don't see four.

1212
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: So I had to say, hell, no, no, I'm gonna

1213
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: give a nerdy football answer. Here, give it to us.

1214
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: So you've said this before, Fred, Obviously there's times where

1215
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: he holds the football for a long time.

1216
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he does scramble like an absolute media.

1217
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: You know what is that makes people sugar rush and

1218
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: people don't get sacks when they sugar rush usually you.

1219
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: Know what sugar is sweet too? Well, we dig it a

1220
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: lot on Carrie, I mean, mar Yeah, so you can

1221
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm

1222
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: just saying that would be my one thing.

1223
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: And I think this next one to me, the second

1224
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: one is really going to inform my first one. Okay,

1225
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: So for example, this is the second one, Derrick Henry

1226
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: will stay under one hundred yards.

1227
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Rushing ek State is hot, somebody gotta stop? Why not us?

1228
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: Why not us? Hell yeah? The King only heads ninety

1229
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: nine yards.

1230
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: He's playing like ninety nine point five.

1231
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: Yea, Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1232
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: He's so I went back and watched all their explosive runs.

1233
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: He is playing some of the best football I've seen

1234
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: him play. He is playing good ball.

1235
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: He been on a team and it ain't all by him.

1236
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, like, yeah, you're gonna free up when you

1237
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: got a quarterback like this and nine teams like, okay,

1238
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 4: who we gotta stop?

1239
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when you say who I got

1240
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: to stop for the Raves since since this is scripted,

1241
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say, hell nah, they told free to say that.

1242
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: So so for me, if we can keep him under

1243
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: one hundred, I think the four sacks things we comes

1244
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: way more real because when you watch the Cincinnati game, Yeah,

1245
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: they did a great job of basically like you're not

1246
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: gonna run the ball. I've never seen more people in

1247
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: the box at the box and near a line of scrimmage.

1248
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: They're blitzing everybody. They're stunting every play It's like muddy

1249
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: muddy run and.

1250
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: That's what I would do it from the defensive coalite

1251
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: if I would win, I should have been saying, you

1252
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: know what, because, like.

1253
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: Tenna said, they don't really have like this. Zay Flower

1254
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: is a good player, but their playmakers are all the

1255
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: tight ends, Like the.

1256
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: Guys Andrews ain't even been making plays.

1257
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: It's like it's Charlie Kolar, who's there?

1258
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: Why Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews and those three guys

1259
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: made exposed to plays last week In this team, it

1260
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: wasn't the receivers.

1261
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: We saw this last time. Though. We saw this going

1262
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: into the Cincinnati Mingos game. They had a slew of

1263
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: tight ends, but then jamar Ches caught on fire. So

1264
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: they don't have a Jama Ches. And I know they

1265
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: have capable guys out there, but they don't have them.

1266
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: That was one of them guys. Every time he make

1267
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: a big play he does he fumbled.

1268
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, something, it's something happens the So if we can

1269
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: keep them under one hundred, I think the four sacks

1270
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: thing is one hundred percent on the table, so he

1271
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: is likely, Yes, if we don't do one hundred yard thing.

1272
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: So if it's hell now like Tennisan say.

1273
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: You now, yes under conditions, So yes, under conditions.

1274
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: I need to say one of them to my family.

1275
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: This is conditionally money, hell conditionally conditionally.

1276
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so fun fact, we have had thirty

1277
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: plus rushing attempts in every game this year. We had

1278
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: none last season. So the third hell yeah, hell now

1279
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: is will we have thirty plus rushing attempts this week

1280
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: against the Baltimore Ravens Hill to the year.

1281
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

1282
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: Simply five or six for Jade, seven to eight for Ekla.

1283
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty.

1284
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nineteen twenty Rob, they go thirty rushes Like

1285
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: I just feel like we'll get to thirty rushiers in

1286
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 4: no tax.

1287
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: What's crazy? B Rob only had seven attempts last week

1288
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: and we got to thirty. So yeah, Ja had eleven. Yeah,

1289
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1290
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: So you got McNichols comes in space, give him a

1291
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: couple of carries.

1292
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: Again, this is a this is a really nerdy I'm

1293
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: gonna do like a well actually think here. We have

1294
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: been able to get thirty rushing attempts a game because

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Speaker 2: our third down efficiency has so good insane, So I

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Speaker 2: would have say, hell, yeah, if we can maintain a

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Speaker 2: good third down deficiency like this.

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Speaker 4: This is stat that matter to me because if we

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Speaker 4: go thirty plus rushes, we're not doing it just for

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Speaker 4: offensive reasons.

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Speaker 1: We're doing it for defensive reasons to keep.

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Speaker 4: Lamar on that side. We get thirty plus rushes, we

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Speaker 4: win this game.

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Speaker 1: I think also too, you got to put into a

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Speaker 1: context that most of our Russis has been where they've

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Speaker 1: been because it's not because we have design runs from

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Speaker 1: our quarterback. It's he knows when to take off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get and get, you know, get positive yard. So that's

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Speaker 1: something that they're seeing too. We can't turn our backs

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Speaker 1: on these guys, so that's we have to play someone

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Speaker 1: who knowing that this guy could take off, he's been

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Speaker 1: keeping us into the game, keeping the flow of the

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Speaker 1: game the way is being because they's turn their backs,

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Speaker 1: they're running to save their life, and he's like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm going ahead, take what you give me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start running beside you. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: I will also say I think it's interesting that they

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Speaker 2: have maybe the one person in the NFL who can.

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Speaker 4: Cal Hamilton spy him do a good job. I've been

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Speaker 4: thinking about you with cal Ham since this week started,

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Speaker 4: I said, and no, Logan gonna be like they go

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Speaker 4: to equal lives to this game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's right there. He's a special football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a special He's great in the box, he's

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Speaker 2: great in coverage, gets his hands on the football, creates

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Speaker 2: turnovers and can track down quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So are those scrambles as effective?

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Speaker 4: But he got to think about it, calam to Ken,

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Speaker 4: I can say, match him. But what happens when you

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Speaker 4: get down there too low and our quarterback rises up

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Speaker 4: and throw the ball not he missing him in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing about spies, man, is it really hurt.

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Speaker 2: I think it takes.

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Speaker 1: It takes. It takes away from the rest of the life.

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Speaker 1: We just talked about his accuracy. Yeah, come on, give

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Speaker 1: me a spy and not get and give me a

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Speaker 1: give me an inch to throw this ball in, give

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Speaker 1: me a window to throw this ball in.

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Speaker 4: If he want to be James Bond for the night,

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Speaker 4: we gonna let him be James Bond and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: go over your head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm gonna save hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, last one, this is maybe my favorite one.

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Speaker 2: We've done in a long time.

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Speaker 1: So what are loss?

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Speaker 2: Will this put the league on notice about the Commanders?

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Speaker 2: Is this going to be a competitive football game against

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl to.

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Speaker 4: The Yes, this is a colture clash.

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Speaker 1: You've been had the coaching. We're gonna show you what

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Speaker 1: the new coaching looked like. It's this is finna be

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Speaker 1: a game of the John's, the Moles. You got the

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Speaker 1: d C folks and the Maryland guys. You knows d

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Speaker 1: C and all the time Joan John Mo, Hey, look

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Speaker 1: at Mo. You know it's gonna be one of those

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Speaker 1: games where you finished ce that these guys over here,

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Speaker 1: you know, and this Burgundy and go gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to come in that stadium and say you have a ride,

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Speaker 1: five have a arrived. We we're happy to introduce to

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Speaker 1: y'all j the future. And that's what I really, I

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Speaker 1: really feel that this is how this game is going

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Speaker 1: to have that kind of effect.

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Speaker 2: And if cats being all serious and you're just like

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Speaker 2: Jack in the box, Jade made it you couldn't handle

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Speaker 2: like the serious.

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Speaker 1: Modelogue, I was like, yeah, h.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, thanks Brian anyway, so that's gonna do it

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Speaker 2: for this show, was man, So please make sure you

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Speaker 2: like to subscribe wherever you gets your content.

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Speaker 1: And man, I am so juiced for this game. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna meet you and pay more. Okay's weekend? Can wait?

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, We can't wait. That's it.

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Speaker 2: our hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect

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Speaker 2: the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any

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