1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Yankee split a double header with the Blue 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Jays yesterday. They're right now third place in the American 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: League East. Brandon Steiner recently launched athlete direct dot Com. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: It's about athlete empowerment as well as unique personal memorabilia 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: for fans and collectors directly from players and coaches, Mark Messier, 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, Sue Bird, Doc Gooden, Willie Randolph, and our 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: next guest, Yankee manager Aaron Boone, giving them the ability 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: to monetize their collections or brands. Aaron good to talk 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to you again. What do you have? What's your what's 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: your prize possession piece of sports memorabilia? Oh? Um, you 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: know what. It goes back to when I was a 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: little kid. So when I was when I was a 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: kid growing up in South Jersey and I was ten 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: years old, I got a Maurice Cheeks Jersey. Cheeks is 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: my all time favorite, those great sixer teams of obviously 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: when Moses Malone finally came and they won the championship. 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Mo Cheeks was my guy when I was a kid, 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: and I got this jersey. Uh, and it's it's the 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: greatest gift I've ever gotten in my life. I still 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: have it. I still throw it on every now and then. 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So I would say, my Mo Cheeks Jersey. Have you 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: ever met Mo Cheeks? I have UM funny story. Um, So, 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: I was at a Clippers game in the off season 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and I was sitting courtside, and um, it was after 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: I hurt my knee after um in the off season 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: of three and oh four, and Mo was coaching, and 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I happened to get his attention across the court and 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: somebody walked me over there and I got to meet 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: him and everything. I kind of told him my story 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: growing up and everything. So yeah, it was pretty neat. 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: So you were you were fan bloying him? Yes? Absolutely absolutely. 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: But did you keep anything when you hit the homer 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: off of Wakefield when the Yankees won the World Series? Well, 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: you guys went on to win the World Series? But 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: or no, you lost to the Marlins? Right? Yes, oops, sorry, 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I'll try that again when you hit the home run 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: off Wakefield? Did you keep anything from that game? Now? So, 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I actually gave my bat to the Hall of Fame. Um, 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: a fan that got the ball. I ended up meeting 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: him and signing the ball for him. Um, you know 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I have the batting gloves and and everything from from that. 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: But but no, not I didn't really keep much from that. Um. 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: You know, I guess I have somewhere in a in 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: a in a case, you know, the spikes. I wore 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: the batting gloves. But um, now with with this athlete's 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: directing a lot of the things that I wear, um 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: in season during the season, you know, sometimes my lineup 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: card that I keep in my pocket, my cutoff hoodies 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: and things like that. Um, these are things that UM, 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: it's amazing that people, you know, want to want to 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: grab these things. And it's cool to be able to 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: interact in that way. And uh, this is this is 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: what this h venture with Brandon's allowing us to do. 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: It's pretty neat. Yeah, and you take control over your 56 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: your own gear. I did you ever talk to Wakefield 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: about that home run? Like, how does that work with 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: after after you're out of the game. Yeah, you ever 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: had a conversation. So I've had a few conversations with 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Tim m First of all, Tim's a great guy, like 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: loves the game. Um, has been involved on the broadcast 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: sign So I've I've had a number of conversations with 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: him over the years. Um, nothing about that, more just 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: talking the game, catching up with each other. Uh, we 65 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: don't really talk about that, you know. He he Uh 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: he actually had my number, he owned me. Um and 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: I find into him, ran into one against him because 68 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: uh nothing, I think, danced all over the place. Usually 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: he could still pitch. I think Aaron, I would think 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: he could roll out there and and and definitely get 71 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: some outs. You know, we don't really have any knuckleballers 72 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: in the game right now, so he'd be even more 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: unique and uh, but but he was special and obviously, uh, 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, had an amazing career. But we've had some 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: great conversations over the years. But basically just uh, you know, 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: talking like like old friends. He's Aaron Boone, the Yankee manager. 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Did you see the play with the Pirates and the 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Cubs yesterday with Hobby Byans? Yes? I did. And how 79 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: does that happen? You know? I think I think you 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: get caught up in the moment a little bit. First 81 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: of all, credit to Hobby for for getting a little 82 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: creative and creating a distraction. I think, you know, it's 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, as manager coaches, we go over these 84 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: things sometimes with with things that you think are just 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: completely obvious, you know, uh, rules rules like an infield 86 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: fly rule, where something happens in the moment that's different, 87 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and sometimes you react in a funny way. And obviously, 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, with the ball taking him off the bag, 89 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: and as you start to chase Hobby down the line, 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: you're like, what is this guy doing? All of a 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: sudden though you see runners moving and obviously he got 92 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: a little cluttered in the mind. And and one of 93 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the weirdest plays you'll ever see. We'll get to see 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: now on a on a replay for for as long 95 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: as we're here. But the creativity by Hobby to create 96 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, confusion, um, was amazing. But obviously you know, 97 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: in the end, all you needed to do with step 98 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: on first, even after Contrara scored, which the strangest thing 99 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: you've seen on a baseball field. That's right up there, 100 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: that's right up there. Um. You know, Danny Grays I 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: play with in Cincinnati. He was a really good closer 102 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: with us. Uh, we were we were appealing a play 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: at third base and he was all He actually was 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: a great fielding pitcher as well, and field his position 105 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: really well and Uh, so, you know, he gets on 106 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: the rubber steps off to appeal a third threw it 107 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: over my head and into the stands and that didn't 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: work out too well. That was a pretty good one 109 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: that I tease Danny about a lot. Now, your grandfather played, 110 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: your father played, your brother played. You know, the look 111 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: of baseball now as opposed to what you grew up with, right, 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and it's definitely different. Yeah, but how do you manage? 113 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Do you manage differently then you would if if you 114 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: were managing fifteen years ago, ten years ago. Yeah, I 115 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: think so, because I think there's just so much more 116 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: information available to you on a daily basis, and you 117 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: know how you're you know, a value winning players, opponents, 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: different matchups. Um. You know, there's just there's just more 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: detailed involved and obviously it's a different game with with um, 120 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of power pitchers in our game now, 121 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: especially rolling out from the bullpen. Um. So it's definitely 122 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: changed and evolved, and you got to try and keep 123 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: up with it as becially can as well as you know, 124 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: doing our part to try and you know, as keepers 125 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: of the game, to try and do things that do 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: make it more appealing. But is there always going to 127 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: be a place for pitchers, like like if Maddox was 128 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: pitching now or Tom Glavin's pitching now, more finesse spotting 129 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: what they do living on the edges here, as opposed 130 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: to these guys who just say, here it is right, 131 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: go get it. First of all, when you're talking about 132 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: great pitchers like Maddox and Lavin, they they would adapt 133 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: and they would, you know, no doubt, figure figure things out. 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: I would say, the one thing that's different when you 135 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: mentioned those guys and you're talking to me who played 136 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: in the nineties and the two thousands, I would say, 137 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: one thing that's changed a lot is the strike zone. 138 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: The strike zone is much more north south now. There's 139 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: probably some lower pitches called strikes, some higher pitches above 140 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: the waist called strikes that weren't when I played, but 141 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: definitely east and west. If if if you're a inch 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: or so off the plate now and and that's called 143 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: a strike, you know you're hearing about it. You know 144 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: that's off the plate now, whereas you know back in 145 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the when I played. Again, if a pitcher had command 146 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: like Maddox, like Lavin, if you were demonstrating you could 147 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: hit the glove two, three, four, even more inches off 148 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: the plate, sometimes off the corner. You got that calls 149 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of nights, now, I don't think you'd 150 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: get that on the regular. Who says something to you 151 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: when you go out and you start arguing with an 152 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: umpire and it doesn't go well? Who lets you know? What? What? What? 153 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Uh? A different you know obviously 154 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: you you have your own bandage point from the side 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: where obviously it's not perfect I all of the home, 156 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: but you get an idea of how things are going. Um, 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and then it could be anyone that if if if 158 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get worked up about something or I 159 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: feel like something needs to be addressed, Um, I might 160 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: ask about a couple of specific calls that I think 161 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: we're questionable, and I'll want to I'll want a little 162 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: bit of color and a little bit of context on 163 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: all right, what exactly am I dealing? But do kids? 164 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Do your kids say something to you when when when 165 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: you make it on the highlights here Aaron, Oh? Um, 166 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: not really I think they kind of laugh. But um, 167 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, I've had a couple of 168 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: rants that obviously a hot mic has fought. Uh, you 169 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: know when I'm feeling with my children. Um, it's not 170 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: the proudest moment. Some of the some of the language 171 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: I use, I'm not I don't regularly use that kind 172 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: of language. So usually it's just in those moments that 173 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: it gets me worked up like that. But can't you 174 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: get your point across without like kicking dirt or being demonstrative. 175 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Can't you just go out and just go let me 176 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: just talk to you here? I guess, like, did you 177 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: ever think about that approach? How much of this is 178 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: first show? Yeah, I mean sometimes that happens. I could 179 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, you should you should get the dug out 180 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: one time, and I would like to see you go 181 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: out there and get your point across like that and 182 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of Dan Patrick fashion. Yeah, but Aaron, I'd go 183 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: with a little humor with my voice and I'd go 184 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: out and I would say, hey, Joe to Joey, Joe, Joe, 185 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: come here. I'm just trying to understand this. Just help 186 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: me because it feels like I'm getting squeezed here a 187 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: little bit, and I got to protect my guy. I 188 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: don't want to make a big deal out of this. Look, 189 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: I got great respect. You're one of the great manager 190 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: or one of the great umpires of all time. I 191 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: think the best umpire of all time. But aside from that, 192 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: can you help out, Garrett Cole? I mean, the guy 193 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: is getting squeezed a little bit here, just you know, 194 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: see it within your heart that you can just call 195 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: it the way it should be called, at least I 196 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: think it should be called. And look, if I'm out 197 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: of you know, out of line, you just tell me, Joe, 198 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: you just tell me. How would that go? Aaron? I 199 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: think that would be tremendous. And I'm you know what, 200 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to take that under advisement, and if I 201 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: have to go out there the next time, I may 202 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: do it in that calm, yes, somewhat passive aggressive. You know. 203 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I had to help Mattingly because Mattingly would get tossed. 204 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: And I said, if every time you get tossed, you 205 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: have to send me a part of your uniform. I 206 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: have the whole uniform eron because he would get taught. 207 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: He said there were times when he went out knowing 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: he was gonna have to send me his pants. So 209 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: he said, I'd go out there and I'm so mad, 210 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: and I know this is going to cost me a 211 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: piece of my uniform here, and I have a whole 212 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: mannequin full of Don Mattingly his entire Dodger uniform. I haven't. 213 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: That is tremendous. Yeah, and we've added the Marlins uniform 214 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: now to that as well. So when you go out there, 215 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: just have that thought that that's right. Dan Patrick said, 216 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: how about I just go out there and just have 217 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: a conversation, you know what. I am absolutely gonna try that, 218 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: and I think that would be quite funny if I 219 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: got kicked out in the process. Completely calm, yeah, complimentary, 220 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and even say thank you if you get tossed, you 221 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: know what. Thanks, I'm sorry I interrupted the time here, 222 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: and look I am. I apologize, and I'm gonna go 223 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: into into the locker room right now, and I hope 224 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy watching the rest of the game. 225 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: And I wish you nothing but great things, Joe, love 226 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: your work. Like I'm taking it under advised, Okay, I'm 227 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: sure you. I think it would be tremendous. So instead 228 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: of sending me a piece of your uniform, you're gonna 229 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: have it on athlete direct dot com. So I'm not 230 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: even see what I did there. Full circle. Aaron Yep 231 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I like, I'm a five tool host. They call me 232 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the Jeter of host. Well it was Jeter of five tool, um, 233 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: I mean one a power guy plastic five tool. But 234 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: you know he had the sixth tool though, too? What 235 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: was that? Just the intangible piece? Oh? I thought I 236 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: had to do with the women? My bad. I thought like, 237 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, where are we going with this? Okay? 238 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: All right, we should have hung up two minutes ago, 239 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: right we should have? Yeah? Uh yeah, he was quite 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: a teammate though, right, yeah he was. Uh it's athlete 241 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: direct dot com. See this is the kind of demeanor 242 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you should have when you go out to argue with 243 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: an umpire very I'm definitely fun, composed, complimentary padam on 244 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: the head. Maybe it's great to talk to you and 245 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: have fun with this, um and thanks for joining us. 246 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Dan, take care of your good sport. 247 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Daron Boone, athlete Direct dot Com. I didn't know what 248 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: the sixth tool was? Am I alone? Am I the 249 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: only guy who thought that? Paulie, we were all laughing. 250 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: You could just called Jeter a six tool player, which 251 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: we've always known collectively. We just heard a whoa whoa? Okay, 252 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: all right. Maybe I think he meant clutch. Yes. Love. 253 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: That guy has to face in New York media every 254 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: day and he never flashes, never loses cool. He turned 255 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: bright red there. I think he was back with the 256 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 257 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 258 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to noon Eastern or six nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 259 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 260 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 261 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 262 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Oh look 263 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: who has joined the program? The popular Rich Eisen or 264 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: The Rich Eisen Show and NFL Network High Rich dpo 265 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: is driving to work. I heard your story about taking 266 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: your kids to the Super Bowl? Yeah, and and what 267 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: what were the names of the guys that she took 268 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: pictures of? Who is this? Was this Georgia? It took 269 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: the pictures? Oh no, this was Grace, But it was like, 270 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, Jim and Tommy, and she just took pictures 271 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: of two drunk Patriots fans at the game. Well, the 272 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: first Super Bowl we took our kids too, was believe 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: it or not, Patriots and Seahawks, and and the fact 274 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: that the thing that they remember most about it were 275 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots fans are on them as well, Dan, because 276 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: they were just chit chatting with their own Jimmy's and 277 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Tom's and Mike the entire game. And Katy Perry comes 278 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: out at halftime, and I'm sitting in the stands as 279 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: well as the first Super Bowl I ever did not 280 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: work the postgame show, so it was the first one 281 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I actually sat in the stands for myself because I 282 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: normally would have to be getting ready to do a postgame. 283 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: But any rate, so Katy Perry's coming out and she 284 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: does her halftime and my son Zan is dressed in 285 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: a Tom Brady jersey and he's he's just dancing his 286 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: head off. And then halftime ends and a Patriot fan 287 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: looks at me and he just waves me over to him, 288 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, what are we going to talk 289 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: about here? And he just leans over he goes, your 290 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: son is one hell of a dancer, just like and 291 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: they were just all like best friends the rest of 292 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: the game. And it was one of those things as 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: well where you said that the game that you took 294 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: him to was so memorable and exciting. Yeah, I will 295 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: tell them like you were. You had a front row. See, 296 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: we were right there in the mezzanine right on the 297 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: goal line when Malcolm Butler picked off Russell Wilson. They 298 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: don't they don't remember. They're literally talking about Katy Perry 299 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: to this day. It's kind of crazy. Yeah, you know 300 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: what resonates with them and I just I dropped him 301 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: off at the Super Bowl and I had to host 302 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Sports Center that night, and uh, you know. Then they 303 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: came back, but just to get my daughter's film developed. 304 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: And all it was was that these two guys you like, 305 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I said, guy said, Grace, what are you? What are 306 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: you doing? She goes od Dan. I just took pictures 307 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: and then they both passed out like that. I think 308 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: they got tired. And it's like it's like the the 309 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: final credits to The Hangover, right, like you get you 310 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: get the camera back, you don't know what's in it. Yeah, 311 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: and you take a look at but I guess the 312 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: question I have for you as well, because you mentioned 313 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: the first Super Bowl was New England versus Carolina. That 314 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: was um, that was NFL Networks first super Bowl. UM. 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: I was in the building as well. That was also 316 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: the wardrobe mal function halftime. Did you ever have a 317 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: conversation with your kids about that one? They had no 318 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: idea where their seats were, rich they had they could see. 319 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: They weren't sure if there was a football game going on, 320 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: but you know, wow, yeah they did after the fact, 321 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: because my wife was did they see the you know 322 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: what happened with I go? No? I said, hunt, No, 323 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: they did. They did not. Hey, before I let you 324 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: go the Julio Jones situation, where where where? Because it 325 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: feels like it's not if, but when, but how about where? 326 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. New England sounds the right spot to 327 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: me because they can absorb it immediately. They could truly 328 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: use him. They're talking about it um and it would 329 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: make a ton of sense, an absolute ton of sense um. 330 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: But then you know the report I think it was 331 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: it was from Diana Rassini of espn um that they 332 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: already have a one in their back pocket. That does 333 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: not sound like New England to me, Although New England 334 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: is the only team Atlanta could say too. When they ask, 335 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: they say, we'll just give you two. They're like, you know, 336 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: that's what we got from Mohammed Sanu from you. So 337 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's realize what we're talking about here, right, 338 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: So that makes sense. The Titans would make a ton 339 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: of sense too, because they're I just don't see them 340 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: trading them within their conference. Green Bay is the one 341 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: that makes the most sense to me, Dan, It really does. 342 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: It fixes everything, you know. And I know this sounds 343 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: like a fantasy football trade, but telling Atlanta you needed 344 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: you were looking for, you know, the successor to Matt Ryan, 345 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Well we've got him. And you can take a look 346 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: at him yourself. He looks great in practice, but his 347 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: presence is kind of, you know, pissing off our MVP quarterback. 348 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: And we'll give you. We'll give you him and a 349 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: two and you give us Julio Jones. And then you 350 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: look at Aaron Rodgers and you say, Okay, you wanted 351 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: to stay here. You wanted the best possible team as 352 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: a window of opportunity. How about the best wide receiver 353 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: tandem in football maybe this entire twenty first century? How 354 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: does that sound. Let's go And we've already put Aaron 355 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Jones on the credit card, and you got big Bob 356 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Tanyan and you let's go let's what. It kind of 357 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: makes an insane amount of sense, which means it probably 358 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: won't happen in a million years. I just want to 359 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: let you know that we're on the air. I just 360 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: want to let you know. I should have told you 361 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: that upfront, that we were. Yeah, but I was going 362 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: to say I'm out of NFL network. But you know, 363 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: now that I know him on the air, I'll just 364 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: keep that to myself. Well, thank you, Richie, thank you Joe. Yeah, 365 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: I could tell when you disapprove. I can tell when 366 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: you disapprove. Oh no, you paid it off. I didn't 367 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: want to try to challenge it. I'd let it breathe. 368 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: I should let you look you you should I should 369 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: let that. That's just my fault. I should let you 370 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: put the button on the conversation. That's your show. I'm 371 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: a guest. My bad. Dan, I'm sorry. I mean, you 372 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: put a bow on it. But look, I know I 373 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: know humor. Rich Okay, I mean yeah, I'll leave it 374 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to you, Dan. Like, how many Sandler movies have you 375 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: been in, rich I've been in a couple of CSI 376 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: Miami's Dan, So you know I've got that going. There's 377 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: nothing funny about CSI Miami. Oh I disagree, sir. You 378 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: and I will have to have a conversation at another date. 379 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: But all right, dad, all right. That's Rich Eisen, who 380 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: joins us on the program on loan from the NFL 381 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Network and the Rich Eisen Show that follows this one 382 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: on Peak. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 383 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 384 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 385 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 386 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock App. Is 387 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Van Gundy with us we believe. So okay, Hey Jeff, Hey, 388 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: what's up? How are you good yourself? I'm doing okay. 389 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Did you go to Wendy's before a Knicks game when 390 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: you were first in New York, first year as a coach? McDonald's. 391 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: Oh so, Paul, How I celebrated getting hired. Uh, I 392 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: signed my contract and uh stopped in the drive through 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: on the way up the West Side Highway. I don't 394 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: even think that McDonald's is still there, but yeah that 395 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: uh the number one combo never tasted so good. But 396 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: there's a Wendy's across the Street though, and and PAULI 397 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: said that he saw you there one time, and it's 398 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: very possible. Absolutely get the chili. Are you kidding me? 399 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure That's all I wanted to ask you, Jeff. 400 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I just wanted to find out. Are the Knicks a 401 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: good team? Are just a good story? No, they're they're 402 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: They're a good team that maxed out the talent at 403 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: hand in the regular season. And we see this every 404 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: once in a while where expectations for playoff success rises 405 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: because of what happened in the regular season. But there's 406 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: no question Atlanta has more more offensive talent. The depth 407 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: of their talent is better. That doesn't mean the Knicks 408 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: can't win. But I picked Atlanta. I thought they were 409 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: a slight favorite going in just because I think they 410 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: have just more weapons offensively. Yeah, I picked Atlanta as well. 411 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: I was also wondering about the atmosphere because you coached 412 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: in New York? Can you coach? These were big games? 413 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Playoff games? But can you? Did you ever? Were you 414 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: ever aware of the surroundings, you know, fan behavior while 415 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: you were coaching, Not necessarily the behavior, but the intensity 416 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: and passion of the crowd. Absolutely, And I think the 417 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Garden was never louder than it was in Game two 418 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: of this series. I mean, it was overwhelming. I've never 419 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: seen a crowd that I remember in the garden standing 420 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: an entire half, and it looked like the whole place 421 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: was standing up the entire second half. And I think 422 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: so the crowd intensity and passion, yes, aware of I'll 423 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: tell you, I am a little. I'm very disturbed though 424 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: by some of these incidents that fans becoming emboldened to 425 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: try to, you know, feel like they can spit on, 426 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: dump popcorn on. That's really disturbing though, But I don't 427 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: know what it is, Jeff. Are the fans any different? 428 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned social media plays a role here, but are 429 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: they more passionate? You know, people trying to use pandemic 430 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: like oh you're being let out of the house, they like, 431 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: you're not going to your your job today and spitting 432 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: on somebody or pouring popcorn on something like. I don't 433 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: know what the reasoning is behind this, well, I would 434 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: say probably at a lot of places, alcohol plays a 435 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: major factor. I'm also disappointed in the well. You know 436 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: they're banning them from the arena. First of all, that's 437 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: of no consequence because people can come right back in. 438 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: It's not like the people charged or perceptually their band 439 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: they can't get in. It's not like there's facial recognition 440 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: and they're get they can't come in. We don't even 441 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: know who they are. Particularly with the Trey Young incident 442 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: spitting on someone, he should have the person should have 443 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: been arrested, Like there has to be harsher consequences for 444 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: these type of actions. And you know, but you're right, 445 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: like it's not that much different some of the things 446 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: said to Patrick Ewing at Rhode Arenas. I gotta say, 447 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: like back in the night, it would you know, today 448 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: people were gonna be would be like stunned at how 449 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: bad it was at times. So I don't know, other 450 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: than alcohol, how you can explain, you know, these bad behaviors. 451 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: But certainly a few people just you know, it's criminal activity, 452 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: is what it is. And I don't know how Patrick 453 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: was able to just internalize that. I mean, Trey Young 454 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: getting spit on and you know, you just and you 455 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: got to play a game, and I you know, we've 456 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: all been down there with Press Rowe and you hear 457 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: what is said or football game or basketball or baseball. 458 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever had to say anything to any of 459 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: your players like hey, stay in the moment or don't 460 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: let it bother you. I don't remember doing that, damn, 461 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: But I gotta say, like some of these things, like 462 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have you know, they have security behind the 463 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: I think this is where basketball is a little bit 464 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: different than football. Football. There's more separation between the fans 465 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: and you know, the players, and in basketball, particularly when 466 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: we're you know, not in a COVID season. I mean, 467 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: they're right on top of you, and the things they 468 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: say or could do, you know, make the basketball players 469 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: much more vulnerable to two things. And so I don't 470 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: remember every saying it, but I gotta say that sometimes 471 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I was actually stunned that they didn't react more often, 472 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, the idea when I think Westbrook went after somebody. 473 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I remember way back, Vernon Maxwell went in the stands 474 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: after somebody. You know, I know they shouldn't do it. 475 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: But until you're in that situation where people you know, 476 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: can say these things because they know they're being protected 477 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: by you know, the rule in the league, will actually 478 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, protect the fan more oftentimes and they protect 479 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: the players. I think it's trying. They're trying to get 480 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: better at it, but we still have a long way 481 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: to go. He's Jeff Van Gundhi of the Mothership. He'll 482 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: be on the call Nets and Celtics anyway, the Nets, 483 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: you gotta say, I love when you say Mothership. That 484 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: just makes me laugh each and every time. Go ahead. 485 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: I've been saying it for decades. I know, I love it. 486 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: I love it. Anyway, the Nets don't reach the NBA Finals, well, yeah, 487 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: there's a way, But to me, they're the prohibitive favorite. 488 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: I think the path in the Eastern Conference. You know, 489 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play an outstanding Milwaukee team most 490 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: likely in the next round if they're to advance, if 491 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: they're advanced past the Celtics, and then they've got to 492 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: face a team they most likely have to face terrific 493 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia team who's great offensively and with a power post 494 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: up player that they really don't match up great with. 495 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's a course, uh and a path 496 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: that they don't certainly because I think the competition at 497 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the top half of the East. Uh, those top three 498 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: teams could all advance easily to the NBA Finals. If 499 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: I gave you the Lakers or the field in the West. Wow, 500 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: if you would have said that before the playoffs, I 501 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: would have said the field. You know, now, like I 502 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: see them ratchet up that defense. Uh, you know, if 503 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: they're if they're able to advance past Phoenix, you know, 504 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Portland or Denver. Denver, particularly because they're injured, I could 505 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I can't see either one of those teams beating them. 506 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: So you know it's their defense, Dan. I mean, they're 507 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: they're big, and they're tough, and they guard. And when 508 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, you know, gets big numbers and you got 509 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: James Uh, you know, neither one had a great first half, 510 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: but they come out in that second half and they 511 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: just pound, you know, a really good Phoenix team. So 512 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I'd have to take La now that you said, you know, 513 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: if you'd pose that same question to me, I'm gonna 514 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably take La. What if the Clippers bow 515 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: out opening round, what kind of ramifications fallout? Any? If any? Yeah? Unknown? 516 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Because I think Kawhi Leonard could be a free agent 517 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: if he chooses to be. You know, obviously I don't 518 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: really understand their messaging when people ask him after the 519 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: second loss, is there any concern and they said no, concerns, 520 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, that's far different from saying we're 521 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: not panicked, We're still confident, But to not have any 522 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: concern I mean, Luca Donte in and of itself is 523 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a concern. Down two oh is a concern. You know, 524 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: their inability to guard in a manner in which like 525 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: they should be a great defensive team. They have every 526 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: component you need to be a great defensive team. So 527 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: if I was their players, I think the proper messaging 528 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: would be, yeah, still confident, but concerned. We need to 529 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: be more urgent, you know, we need to play better. 530 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think this started with their attitude towards the 531 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: last couple of games of the regular season, where you know, 532 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: they lost. I don't want to say on purpose, but 533 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: they certainly weren't playing to win. And the West is hard, 534 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Like Dallas is no joke. I mean, I think they 535 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: beat him by fifty earlier in the season. So obviously 536 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: this is a really good team, a dangerous offensive team, 537 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: and they've got a pre eminent star in Is there 538 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 1: a younger, a young player you would take over Luca 539 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: to start your team? Well, I'm trying to think off 540 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I'll give you first choice, 541 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: and if I get I get dog. I'm good. I'm 542 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: good with like like the way this you know, what 543 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: impresses me about him is as he's improved to shooting 544 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: later in the year, Like when he gets into the lane. 545 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: He's so big, so strong, with such great vision. There's 546 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: no great way to handle him in the two man game. 547 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Like in the pick and roll. You can trap him 548 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: and he can see over the trap, and he's a 549 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: willing passer and they have great shooting around him. If 550 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: you drop deep in the lane with your big he's 551 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: so big and strong that he takes it deep and 552 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: he can either finish or make every pass necessary. And 553 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: if you switch, particularly if you play a traditional center, 554 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: he just obliterates those guys. So there is no good 555 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: coverage for him. And I think he's more dialed in. 556 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: He's not a good individual defender per se, but he's 557 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: more dialed in defensively because he knows that ultimately you 558 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: have to guard to win. And so I think this 559 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: guy is a you know, just a great great player. 560 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you put him as your MVP and 561 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: many in a ballot, I mean, he's going to be 562 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: in the top eight, no question. Yeah, he might turn 563 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: out to be like Mike Trout, where he's always in 564 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the conversation for MVP, the question is is he going 565 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: to win championships just like Mike Trout. Mike Trout is, 566 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, obviously one of the great players, but he's 567 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: not winning a championship anytime soon, and Luca may have 568 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: a situation that's similar to that. Well, so much of 569 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: winning a championship, as you know, Dan is who you 570 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: play with and who you play against. Some players were 571 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: just born at the wrong time, and even though they 572 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: had good players around them, they just didn't have, you know, 573 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: enough around them to win at all. So, you know, 574 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: I think they have a very good team. I know 575 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: they got off to a bad start this year. You know, 576 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: Porzingis injury I think had an impact. I think Done 577 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: didn't shoot the ball particularly well. But since Rick Carlisle 578 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: has gone to Richardson off the bench, starting Hardaway with 579 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Finney Smith, Kleiba, Porzingis and Done, that starting lineup is big, 580 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: it's versatile, and it has a lot of answers at 581 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. You coached against Jordan, later Jordan, 582 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: you coached against Kobe. You coached against Lebron, a young 583 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: Lebron game plan wise, who did you who did you 584 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: figure out a little bit better than the other two? Mm, 585 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: there's no there wasn't there's really no figuring now great players. 586 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: I think what you try to do with all great players, 587 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Dan is you can't give them everything. Um So, for instance, 588 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: where we always started off with game planning against great players. 589 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, O'Neill was by far the 590 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: hardest guy, Like there was no game plan for the 591 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: power of O'Neill. So, but on those perimeter players, what 592 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: you try to do is take away transition layups and 593 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: try to take away free throw attempts the pull up game. 594 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, some of the threes we see Lebron James 595 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: making now off the dribble. He made one in Game 596 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: two against Phoenix. You know, lept corner off the dribble. Faith, 597 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do with that. You gotta take 598 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: away layups. You got to take away free throws. And 599 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: the harder you make them make it on great players 600 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: in the half court, they try to figure out all right, 601 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: I gotta get out and transition more. I got to 602 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: get to the offensive boards more. So you've got to 603 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: fight him in the effort areas, but there's truly no 604 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: way to stop him. But you can't give him everything. 605 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: So for James, you know, you can't give him thirty 606 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: points and double digit assists like you're he's gonna get 607 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: probably one or the other, but you can't give him both. 608 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you, Jeff. Have fun 609 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: Tonight it's the Nets and the Celtics that'll be at 610 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: eight thirty Eastern on the Mothership, and Sunday's game will 611 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: be Suns Lakers at three thirty eastern on ABC. If 612 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: you can slip in Mothership tonight, that'd be kind of nice. Well, 613 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: I think we're on ABC tonight, so I think we are, 614 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: So I think tonight. Yeah, it's an eight thirty game 615 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: because I think the other games are on the Mothership. 616 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: Nick's come on at seven and I believe at nine 617 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: thirty is us right? So two games on the Mothership, 618 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: one on ABC. And if I am going to get 619 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: Mothership in tonight and Mark Jackson will probably reprimand me immediately, 620 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: but that's all right, Yeah, I can I can handle it. Yeah, 621 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about Mark Jackson. Mike Breen's a Hall 622 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: of Famer. I'd worry about him, but hey, yes, he 623 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: is great to talk to you, Jeff, Thanks you for 624 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: joining us. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 625 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 626 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 627 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: Search f SR to listen live.