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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien to be around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas, coming to you from room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys, hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: Divisional round weekend in the books and a very interesting
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was a classic divisional round weekend.
Speaker 1: Sometimes of these weekends and there's a reason why everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the best weekend of the year, um, including me
Speaker 1: saying you, Um, is that because you have all these
Speaker 1: great teams at this point in the flotsam has been jettisoned,
Speaker 1: The jetson has been jettisoned. The Jets have been jettisoned. Um.
Speaker 1: Usually you just have great games. And we took forty
Speaker 1: nine seconds for the Jets to be mentioned on the show.
Speaker 1: You struggle, Well, the Patriots won't come up much either
Speaker 1: this week. I can tell you. Actually, no, your wider
Speaker 1: evers in jail right now. We'll get to that. He
Speaker 1: broke out Beverly Hills. They can't they can't keep him down.
Speaker 1: We'll get the zolac to what a mess. Clean it up,
Speaker 1: bro professional. All right, all right, let's be pros ourselves.
Speaker 1: We did not have a close game for the first
Speaker 1: three games the Divisional Round weekend. Well there was the
Speaker 1: first game today got close, and then it got really
Speaker 1: out of control, and then finally the late game the
Speaker 1: Seahawks show uphulse and turn that into a nail biter
Speaker 1: down the stretch. We needed that West. We wanted at
Speaker 1: least one nail biter in Divisional Round weekend. Well, Greg
Speaker 1: was pulling for a close game. I was pulling for
Speaker 1: the Packers to do away with the impostors. Who are
Speaker 1: the Seahawks basically Russell Wilson carrying a injured, depleted roster
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and I didn't think they belonged to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think overall, though, it was a great
Speaker 1: Divisional Round weekend because you got the first one ended
Speaker 1: up being a dud, but the other three were fascinating
Speaker 1: in their own ways. Like this last game it was close,
Speaker 1: the other two are more fascinating to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was like a divisional round game. In the Ravens game, anything,
Speaker 1: we'll remember a long time from now, and we've never
Speaker 1: seen a game quite like Texans teach, so even though
Speaker 1: they weren't closed at the end, they like blowouts can
Speaker 1: be kind of fun and interesting too, I'd say the
Speaker 1: four of us. I enjoy blowouts for multiple reasons. But
Speaker 1: what but in this case, like forget the close games,
Speaker 1: like insane plot points written and authored and filmed. I mean,
Speaker 1: stuff happened that shocked the senses. So I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's a close game when like things are happening
Speaker 1: that completely changed. We got a much needed, fresh, fresh
Speaker 1: batch of narratives. I do think through an entire offset,
Speaker 1: I think some things we're getting a little predictable in
Speaker 1: stale where you we thought, and even on our our
Speaker 1: network show on Friday, authored a prediction from long ago
Speaker 1: that I thought was rock solid, and it got blown
Speaker 1: up in two minutes. Everything we said on that show
Speaker 1: got blown up. For the most part, actually everything I
Speaker 1: said played out. I think my vocative, my Vikings pick
Speaker 1: looked great. Mid Saturday afternoon. All right, so let's get
Speaker 1: to the game, and let's go like we did last
Speaker 1: weekend reverse order um from the game that just got
Speaker 1: finished to the first game that was played. So that
Speaker 1: then takes us of course to lambeau Field Rogers and
Speaker 1: the shotgun takes the snamp rushes on, looks it over
Speaker 1: the right side to Boston. Cover the shoulder text golotles
Speaker 1: trust the fifty first down green by the forty six
Speaker 1: yard lot of Seattle. That was huge, hop beautiful flow
Speaker 1: over the shoulder catch Tavante Adams, Oh, Yes, Wayne Larvy
Speaker 1: with the call for the Packers radio network. Yes. With
Speaker 1: the Seahawks charging herd in Russell Wilson looking at crushed
Speaker 1: hearts and green Bay, Aaron Rodgers delivered a I'm Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: damnit moment, the one we've been waiting for. Two huge
Speaker 1: third and long conversions uh late in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: allowed the Packers to run out the clock punch their
Speaker 1: ticket to the NFC title game over Seattle West. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to your cornhole analogy with Rogers um sometimes
Speaker 1: in that in that fine parlor game, the hardest point
Speaker 1: to get is when you know it's seventeen, Just put
Speaker 1: it on the board and you win. And Rogers was
Speaker 1: facing that moment he needed to make that throw to
Speaker 1: get him home, to send the Seahawks out of the party,
Speaker 1: and that's what he did. I feel like the Packers
Speaker 1: were up like seventeen to ten and cornhole Seahawks brought
Speaker 1: it back and then there's six bags blocking the hole
Speaker 1: and Rogers throws it and knocks, pushes two of his
Speaker 1: in and then goes in right behind it. It was
Speaker 1: It was a perfect throw, and I think that was
Speaker 1: part of the analogy to begin with. He can make
Speaker 1: these throws, and that's why he keeps trying to do it.
Speaker 1: And today he didn't miss on the tough throws. Eric
Speaker 1: Eager of PFF pointed out he was perfect on throws
Speaker 1: that went over ten yards, six for six for a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five yards and two touchdowns. And you
Speaker 1: think of the end of the game, which also included
Speaker 1: a clutch throw to Geronimo Allison on the drive before
Speaker 1: which he'll burn some clock the throw to Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 1: But you also think early in the game on the
Speaker 1: first drive, there were a multiple third and longs where
Speaker 1: he hit the throw on time to his first read,
Speaker 1: which are the kind of throws you haven't seen a
Speaker 1: ton from the Packers, or at least not consistently. And
Speaker 1: he was hitting his back foot and he was letting
Speaker 1: it go and it was looking like a vintage Rogers
Speaker 1: performance for the most part. You know, I wonder where
Speaker 1: they will wind up because I'm still concerned about the
Speaker 1: lack of weapons. I mean, they're in the NFC Champion No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I like, as we as we have
Speaker 1: to mine on and start to look at that game,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be facing a completely different defense than the
Speaker 1: broken down Seahawks defense that you know. I thought they
Speaker 1: hung around in this game Seattle, because they themselves simply
Speaker 1: do that in every single game. But this, for a
Speaker 1: long stretch of time, looked like green Bay might just
Speaker 1: completely wind up dropping a mega hammer on Seattle because
Speaker 1: they could run the ball. They were just sort of
Speaker 1: having their way on offense. And it's not I don't
Speaker 1: feel like we've seen a lot of that from green
Speaker 1: Bay's you know, attack of late, but they were playing
Speaker 1: a team that was on at last gasp of air
Speaker 1: and that's not going to be the case when you
Speaker 1: go into San Francisco. Four touchdowns in their first six drives,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty dominant though they went dark
Speaker 1: and Davante Adams was fantastic, but all other Packers wide
Speaker 1: receivers combined for nineteen yards on two catches. Alan Lazarre
Speaker 1: to help without a catch, and the other wide receivers
Speaker 1: were outproduced by December waiver pickup kick returner Tyler Irvin.
Speaker 1: And this is on Dan's radar. I know that the
Speaker 1: Packers in August like they ignored the position. They waited
Speaker 1: for these second year guys to step up. It never happened,
Speaker 1: and it's too late now to fix it. So now
Speaker 1: it's just Aaron Rodgers. It was an A plus though.
Speaker 1: I mean they had eight possessions and they scored four
Speaker 1: touchdowns and then they killed the clock to win the
Speaker 1: game at the end. That's five of the eight possessions.
Speaker 1: Maybe not in a plus and a a minus. The
Speaker 1: defense for them couldn't get a stop in the second half, uh,
Speaker 1: and they did what they could. I'm looking across the
Speaker 1: field that Russell Wilson and thinking who has you know,
Speaker 1: more help, Wilson or Rodgers. Yeah, you have locket In
Speaker 1: Metcalf and that's shiny, but got an off all offensive line.
Speaker 1: You've got Marshall Lynch running twelve for twenty six, and
Speaker 1: you've got Malike Turner dropping the first down throw on
Speaker 1: what turned out to be the Seahawks's last drive of
Speaker 1: the season, which to me is kind of an overlooked
Speaker 1: moment in that game. I mean, that was an easy
Speaker 1: thirteen yard completion that went right off his chest. They
Speaker 1: end up taking a sack which makes it fourth and eleven,
Speaker 1: and they end up putting the ball, which I think
Speaker 1: is a questionable decision by Pete Carroll that at least
Speaker 1: of all the third intent that they've picked up in
Speaker 1: this offseason, I get it. I mean, it's not a
Speaker 1: Seahawks game if you aren't questioning Pete Carroll's you know,
Speaker 1: approach to something so well here, when you're getting an
Speaker 1: a p when you're getting a Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: at the very peak of his powers and you're doing
Speaker 1: your best to limit his impact on the game. I
Speaker 1: think when I would say though their approach out of
Speaker 1: the gate, I wish they had just sort of ran
Speaker 1: the entire affair the way they did in the second half,
Speaker 1: just just basically he's true, but that, but but but
Speaker 1: they continue to do that, they kind of drive you
Speaker 1: nuts because there was way too much marsh On Lynch
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the field, or let me
Speaker 1: give you a stat Marshawn Lynch and Travis Homer carried
Speaker 1: thirty two times for fifty eight yards in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: less than two yards of carry, and they stayed with
Speaker 1: the stutter stepping Marshawn Lynch. I understand that the goal
Speaker 1: line you're gonna do that, but not in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field, right. They had three huge plays in
Speaker 1: the last three and a half minutes of the game.
Speaker 1: You had the third and five Seattle after their own
Speaker 1: forty two three to twenty two to play Preston Smith,
Speaker 1: who's been doing it all year because Brian Gouda Hunts
Speaker 1: knows exactly what he's doing duty, He's got my executive duty.
Speaker 1: It's made up, John Lynch. That was a huge sact
Speaker 1: by Preston Smith with Jacob Hollister at tight end trying
Speaker 1: to block. This is after he signed the Smith Brothers,
Speaker 1: so he killed at Preston Smith. It again steps up
Speaker 1: with a huge play the fourth and eleven. They punted.
Speaker 1: As you said, Greg, it should keep in mind that
Speaker 1: as great as the Packers, where they had scored three
Speaker 1: consecutive touchdown drives of seventy sixty and seventy five early
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, they had they got him off
Speaker 1: the field the Seattle defense twice in a row, three
Speaker 1: plays and out and then an eight play twenty five
Speaker 1: yards and out. So I guess Carol said, we have
Speaker 1: the momentum, let's kick it away. We don't want to
Speaker 1: lose this game. On a fourth and forever, which is
Speaker 1: fourth and eleven is getting in that range. But and
Speaker 1: what I think was so huge that stop on third
Speaker 1: and five. The green Bay defense was gassed because they
Speaker 1: were going up and down the field Seattle. They had
Speaker 1: scored three consecutive touchdowns, and like I just said, the
Speaker 1: green Bay offense was getting on off the field quickly.
Speaker 1: So to step up with that sack was the play
Speaker 1: of the season I thought for green Bay. Before the
Speaker 1: two passes by Rogers when they got on the field,
Speaker 1: the throw that we heard to Davante Adams, then Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 1: who hasn't made a big play in forever. Uh, with
Speaker 1: the game hanging in the bed, Allan's again third and long,
Speaker 1: A nice pass by Rogers, a little low and and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham went and got it and then fell onto
Speaker 1: the first first down line game over, so in a
Speaker 1: in a season where Rogers hasn't had a lot of
Speaker 1: weapons outside of Dwanta Adams and Aaron Jones. He've got
Speaker 1: the last little bit of playmaking ability at Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: and there in the final four because of it. You
Speaker 1: got to give the coaches some credit too. I think
Speaker 1: having Davante Adams matched up against Uga Amadi, who I
Speaker 1: think was viewed as a weakness of the defense on
Speaker 1: like a slot fade, which is you know you've seen
Speaker 1: a lot this year on third. I mean, that's great
Speaker 1: coaching and you see Rogers recognize the Blitz Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: with the great Blitz pick up. I mean, they picked
Speaker 1: the right matchups when it mattered. Hats off to Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: who's playing style sort of reminds me of the Harlem
Speaker 1: Globetrotters distilled into one corporeal entity. This is why West
Speaker 1: makes a big bucks. The Seahawks did not plan to
Speaker 1: go into the postseason with Russell Wilson, Travis Homer, Marshawn Lynch,
Speaker 1: Jacob Pollister, and Malik Turner is key figure. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's congratulations to them for getting this far, but that
Speaker 1: was not a playoff roster the last two weeks, right,
Speaker 1: But in you're right, and I was. You know, before
Speaker 1: the game, I said they had a disadvantage of quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Packers did in this game. I think both quarterbacks
Speaker 1: played outstanding. But I think and maybe it's because I
Speaker 1: followed too many people on Seahawks Twitter. Although is that possible,
Speaker 1: you know, Seahawks Twitter a humble back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Here's what I'm saying. They're all they're all obsessedive, like,
Speaker 1: are we maximizing Russell Wilson? Is he having to overcome
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, but not only Brian Schottenheimer, but Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll will Okay, Brian Schottenheimer, is this the right guy
Speaker 1: to be running their offense? And then Pete Carroll's the
Speaker 1: defensive coaches coached to mediocre defenses in a row. And
Speaker 1: that's fine if you play that way. But we talked
Speaker 1: about it. I talked about it in week four or five.
Speaker 1: He's coaching this team. He wishes a yead that could
Speaker 1: run and play defense. He doesn't have that team. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's I think The point we made before is
Speaker 1: like that they kept trying to be what Brian Schottenhamer
Speaker 1: wants him to be until they said, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we're going to get waxed if we continue that. On
Speaker 1: the flip side, Matt Lafleur, I feel like, now you know,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, had they lost this playoff game,
Speaker 1: you go into the off season with a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about a thirteen and three team that wasn't really
Speaker 1: the record. I this is a huge win for Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 1: But that said, you are right now at the same
Speaker 1: precipice that Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers had been at
Speaker 1: throughout essentially the entire last decade. And I don't like
Speaker 1: their chances in San Francisco. But this is the same
Speaker 1: song and dance for Aaron Rodgers a hundred times. I'm
Speaker 1: not raining on his parade. You better team the better
Speaker 1: team one, But I just I am not convinced that
Speaker 1: the that Aaron Rodgers gets any better than this game
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know what the Desert Says says,
Speaker 1: but forty Niners are going to be a favorite in
Speaker 1: this game. People are gonna disregard the Seahaw the Packers,
Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, it might be you guys don't
Speaker 1: sound like you are. I'm not, no. I think it's
Speaker 1: too simplistic are the better team, of course, but I
Speaker 1: just think that you're I'm just saying it's a little
Speaker 1: Maybe it's too simplistic to say this, but a team
Speaker 1: that's won fourteen of seventeen games in an NFL season
Speaker 1: and we're getting into mid January should not be completely diskissed,
Speaker 1: and we would be. We would be fool at this
Speaker 1: point to try to sell anyone watching this a bill
Speaker 1: of goods saying we know exactly what's gonna happen, because
Speaker 1: these these games are a complete dart at a dartboard
Speaker 1: that's forty yards away in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: But but I still I still think just to even
Speaker 1: get it nearly what I want to throw by you
Speaker 1: to complete that analogy, and the dart was wavering, I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was get the mark. Just used a
Speaker 1: parlor game analogy. And that's how difficult that must have been. Well,
Speaker 1: we got you know, this side of the table is
Speaker 1: both used parlor game analogies to discuss the packers at
Speaker 1: this point. So your turn, billiards what a sport? And
Speaker 1: you got the que ball you No, I don't have
Speaker 1: anything yet. Uh, Speaking of Aaron Rodgers after the game,
Speaker 1: I like Aaron Rodgers cliches and uh and you know,
Speaker 1: scripted answers. I just think they're fun, obviously. Aaron Andrews
Speaker 1: a Fox is a nice little relationship with Mr Rogers.
Speaker 1: It's been going on for years now. They've been in
Speaker 1: the league together, her covering the league, him as a star.
Speaker 1: She asked him after the game what he's got kind
Speaker 1: of cooking in his mind? As they prepare to face
Speaker 1: the forty Niners team that blew their doors off about
Speaker 1: a month ago. You're you're the king of mottos? Do
Speaker 1: you have one? Heading into the NFC Championship against San Francisco?
Speaker 1: What do you got? Come on, I'm just gonna enjoy
Speaker 1: a nice glass of Scotts tonight and get onto the
Speaker 1: film San fran and be ready for a tougher port.
Speaker 1: All right, old man, I can joke with you about that.
Speaker 1: Congrats the King of mottos. You know how we know him,
Speaker 1: you know, said r G three is to hear that
Speaker 1: that someone else is the king of motto. What a
Speaker 1: man after your heart? Though, Give me a glass of
Speaker 1: Scotch and I'm I'm gonna is that everything. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tape dog all night with my Scott. Feel like
Speaker 1: that's at least the fourth time I've heard Rogers say
Speaker 1: after a game, I'm gonna have a glass of Scotch,
Speaker 1: and that's his movie. He does feel like a pulld
Speaker 1: al at some point where you're just stop it. It's
Speaker 1: funny because somebody put an umbrella over Cessler. It's raining.
Speaker 1: It's funny because this whole year I'll I heard about
Speaker 1: that these two guys are on Seahawks corner. They couldn't
Speaker 1: have been rooting harder against the Packers. This game ridiculous,
Speaker 1: really simplistic. I was on Seahawks corner because they're fun team.
Speaker 1: That's always the mix. I locked up the Packers, thank you,
Speaker 1: because I believe that they were the better team. Seahawks.
Speaker 1: We're a team that was so beat up. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'd rather see this. Hopefully their running game gets worked out.
Speaker 1: I love Marshawn Lynch, but I don't really need to
Speaker 1: see him on the field anymore. It's cool that he
Speaker 1: had four touchdowns the season to end what is a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career in my opinion, but they need
Speaker 1: to get better and help. I would say one thing,
Speaker 1: Seattle beat San Francisco and took them to the brink
Speaker 1: with that banged up roster. Green Bay did not match
Speaker 1: up well the first time. I'm not trying to go
Speaker 1: down this road over and over, but we agree with you.
Speaker 1: But it's just I think this is a nice night
Speaker 1: for the green Bay Packer. It is it is, and
Speaker 1: it's just got disregarded as a number two seeds, you know,
Speaker 1: home the better team, better team game, and Dan was
Speaker 1: I feel like Dan was pulling for the Packers. You
Speaker 1: were definitely pulling for Aaron Rodgers to hit that past.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm just I'm keeping a real just as
Speaker 1: a football fan and someone who's going to be lucky
Speaker 1: enough to be covering the game. Patrick Mahomes Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: super Bowl feed. It put in my veins if that's
Speaker 1: how it works out. I actually would be cool of
Speaker 1: any Super Bowl combo, but that one is the one
Speaker 1: that I really want to say. I mean, there is
Speaker 1: something special about especially in a season where Rogers wasn't
Speaker 1: at his best, to maybe have his best game of
Speaker 1: the year or one of his best games of the
Speaker 1: year in this spot. I mean, he's so legendary. After
Speaker 1: the game, Marshawn Lynch entered the Packers locker room to
Speaker 1: do a jersey exchange and and uh, you know, signed
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Not many people are getting that sort
Speaker 1: of respect A couple account raduates for his old team,
Speaker 1: his all teammate. I get it. But still he also
Speaker 1: can't do in that for anyone. Mark, he came into
Speaker 1: the league. He's a tooth, was in ten draft class, right,
Speaker 1: he came into the league when you and I came
Speaker 1: to the NFL. I don't want the sun setting on
Speaker 1: his career, because if it's setting on Aaron Rodgers career,
Speaker 1: you know, we might be in trouble. To we're talking
Speaker 1: to who came in to the league in two Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers much earlier than that. Oh he want a super
Speaker 1: Bowl in to Dunton. Yes, yes, that is true. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what a long time. That's what advantage we
Speaker 1: have on these players. You know, their their careers are
Speaker 1: in the sun is setting as they hit forty. We're
Speaker 1: just we're just about to enter our prime. Damn our
Speaker 1: broadcasting a bit more like a Romo scenario. I'll go
Speaker 1: with you. That is that is a wild presumption by you.
Speaker 1: But alright, alright, so Mark their Packers are still alive.
Speaker 1: It's going to be that way for another second. Could
Speaker 1: it be happier? But the three of you couldn't you
Speaker 1: were also pro packers. I have to offer that challenges
Speaker 1: lie ahead, challenges disagree like Packers, packers, Chiefs, super Bowls.
Speaker 1: To your point, yes, Mark, three of the teams that
Speaker 1: played this week, and that one their games should be
Speaker 1: miserable because they will have j Lee Lewis. Only one
Speaker 1: team ends up is the ultimate and I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want next Sunday if the forty nine has win
Speaker 1: thirty eight twenty, I don't need some Sessler monologue about
Speaker 1: how you saw it coming and we didn't. That certainly
Speaker 1: can happen, but they shouldn't. I'm just saying they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be discounted in that game. I don't think that anyone
Speaker 1: I would not do that. We all agree that that's
Speaker 1: this is just the normal thing, is that San Francisco's
Speaker 1: gonna be favored and they I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: they took care of business without any issues. All Right,
Speaker 1: that is one game. Let's now move to the next
Speaker 1: game that occurred on Sunday, and uh yeah, it got
Speaker 1: weird at arrowhead. Kelsey trunks and motion across the face
Speaker 1: of my home. She's sprints out to the last side.
Speaker 1: He's holding it. He's gonna try to hold it close.
Speaker 1: It lake and isn't cold. It's called touchdown City. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs takes the lead and Kelsey with the leather catch,
Speaker 1: let us spread out, run pass often again and Kelsey
Speaker 1: gargling in this eat nectar of Ryan Varley behind the glass.
Speaker 1: It's good one. Mitch nailed this one, they say, gorgling, gargling,
Speaker 1: gargling that nectar. That gargling. Yeah, it's kind of gross
Speaker 1: because it's thick, the nectar. It usually it's a tough
Speaker 1: thing to gargle. I imagine. All right, here we go
Speaker 1: Mitch Holt with the called Chiefs Radio network. Down twenty
Speaker 1: four nothing with eleven minutes to go in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs they had a lot of work to do
Speaker 1: just to make the game respectable. Well they did more
Speaker 1: than that. Patrick mahomes through four touchdown passes uh and
Speaker 1: the rest of that second quarter, giving them a lead
Speaker 1: by the end of the second quarter, a lead they
Speaker 1: would not relinquish. In fact, they build on it quite
Speaker 1: a bit by the fourth quarter. It was a laugher.
Speaker 1: Final score fifty one thirty one Chiefs over Texans and
Speaker 1: they head to the a f C Championship game. Greg,
Speaker 1: this is one of the wildest outcomes in a long
Speaker 1: time in a game that is this term gets thrown
Speaker 1: around too much. Unique. This was a unique You we've
Speaker 1: never seen a game like this, never, certainly never a
Speaker 1: first half like this in the playoffs. And yet some
Speaker 1: people on the other side of the table here Chris
Speaker 1: Wesley and Mark Sessler saw it coming. I think that
Speaker 1: the minute that Bill O'Brien didn't go for fourth uh
Speaker 1: and inches to to possibly go up twenty nothing, they
Speaker 1: kick a field goal, they make it twenty four. Once
Speaker 1: the Chiefs get back in that seven, they're very confident
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are gonna come back and win this
Speaker 1: game comfortably. And that's exactly what they did. And my
Speaker 1: big takeaway from all of that is everyone killing on
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and pointing out the fourth and inches or
Speaker 1: other decision, the fake punt. It's like Bill O'Brien wasn't
Speaker 1: playing defense for the Patrick Mahomes. You're gonna give credit
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs who scored seven touchdowns in
Speaker 1: seven possessions. I don't one play call is not going
Speaker 1: to change that. What happened is just the far better
Speaker 1: team offensively exerted their will and that was gonna happen
Speaker 1: at some point in that game. I think, no matter
Speaker 1: what Bill O'Brien did, I'm not gonna kill Bill O'Brien.
Speaker 1: I thought he got the risk reward wrong on the
Speaker 1: decision for the fake field goal and then uh, the
Speaker 1: decision to go for the the field goal and then
Speaker 1: the fake those were backwards. I thought the risk reward
Speaker 1: was wrong there. But this the problem with this team
Speaker 1: is they have a really bad secondary and that's been
Speaker 1: true all year, and then they lost two of their
Speaker 1: top three safeties in weeks seventeen and eighteen, and they're
Speaker 1: playing Lonnie Johnson, a rookie cornerback who they traded for
Speaker 1: Gary and Conley and picked up Vernon Hargraves off waivers
Speaker 1: so they could bench Lonnie Johnson, and then in the
Speaker 1: playoffs they were so desperate they had to put him
Speaker 1: on Travis Kelsey and that was a lopsided matchup, one
Speaker 1: of the most lopsided we've seen. And that's why I
Speaker 1: don't hate what O'Brien did, although I know he went
Speaker 1: for the field goal that was a little weak. Just
Speaker 1: give it sometimes, just give credit to the players, I
Speaker 1: guess is what I'm saying. It's like Mahomes Walkins Kelsey.
Speaker 1: They're making these plays and Daniel Sorenson made a great
Speaker 1: play on the fake PNTY. I think if you had watched,
Speaker 1: if the Texans coaches are watching that play again on fell,
Speaker 1: they would still call it again, like it took an
Speaker 1: unbelievable play topic. You know, Brian said after the game.
Speaker 1: He made it clear. He was like, we thought we
Speaker 1: needed to score touchdowns. We could not give the ball
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He spoke on that, and I'll the Chiefs
Speaker 1: basically did to the Texans what the Texans did to
Speaker 1: the Bills a week ago. They played ay, they got
Speaker 1: they they had mistakes. You know, it was two special
Speaker 1: teams gaffs that put the Chiefs in a hole. It
Speaker 1: wasn't their defense getting burned left and right right. I mean,
Speaker 1: just like uncharacteristic play. But unlike like the Tech. You know,
Speaker 1: they they fought back the way the Texans did against
Speaker 1: the Bills, But unlike the Ravens, will talk about they
Speaker 1: got out of their own way and and solved their issues,
Speaker 1: went on and scored. The possession chart is insane. They
Speaker 1: became the first team to score on six straight drives
Speaker 1: in a Divisional round games since the Packers and the
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren Sehawks in two thousand and seven. But then
Speaker 1: they went on to score a seventh straight touchdown. And
Speaker 1: I don't blame the Texans. They just basically drove a
Speaker 1: bike into a shredder. I mean, you cannot do a
Speaker 1: whole lot against the Chiefs when they suddenly like gigantic
Speaker 1: one of those like when like you just a bike
Speaker 1: goes off a jump into one of those giant shredders,
Speaker 1: but only it's got to be large enough than a
Speaker 1: typical tree shredder, so the bike in the person could
Speaker 1: go into it. The bike in the person representing the
Speaker 1: entire Texans team went off a jump into the shredder.
Speaker 1: And then they got it was more than a funnel.
Speaker 1: It was a separating the entire team into a billion pieces. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people see what they what they want to see. Uh.
Speaker 1: Sometimes us included we're all the same, you know, and
Speaker 1: um in this case, it was like Twitter, everybody's watching
Speaker 1: the same games now and it gets crazy. It was
Speaker 1: like a Chernobyl level Twitter meltdown with the analysis in
Speaker 1: this game. Within in the first half hour of the game,
Speaker 1: in real time, everybody wanted to say, Andy Reid needs
Speaker 1: to be sent out to pasture. Who's who's put ten
Speaker 1: ft ten feet under the ground. An hour later, Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien's getting run out of the country. Three little. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just these get It is not healthy for you know,
Speaker 1: eighty million people to be watching and commenting on the
Speaker 1: same thing at once. This is a very two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty issue that somehow we need to eradicate. Putting some
Speaker 1: type of system, a lock system. I think someone threw
Speaker 1: it out there downstairs in the newsroom. Everyone gets too
Speaker 1: tweets per game, and make them count because you don't
Speaker 1: get to flip flop, and it will keep the sheer
Speaker 1: volume of hot takes down. I like that. I can
Speaker 1: some people that don't deserve to either, but that's that's
Speaker 1: and some people don't. You have to clear a certain
Speaker 1: can you get tweets taken away? Tweets get taken away.
Speaker 1: We have to install some type of cabinet of people
Speaker 1: who confer and decide who gets to like it? Sounds
Speaker 1: like a job for Clay on the cabinet, that's right. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: but so how about that, oh, Zola? What is going
Speaker 1: on with Zola? I mean he was bombed, right, Zolac?
Speaker 1: I gotta read some of these. He had the flu,
Speaker 1: but I mean had all sorts of flu. I mean
Speaker 1: he uses a derogatory term that I won't say on
Speaker 1: the air here for Travis Kelsey questioning his manhood and
Speaker 1: calling him a fake and all this stuff. Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: who what went ten for one thirty for one thirty
Speaker 1: four and three? He had an early drop like the
Speaker 1: rest of his teammates, and then he proceeded to die
Speaker 1: the minute that tweet went out. He does essentially turned
Speaker 1: into like a human fire. And Scott Zolac, for people
Speaker 1: that don't know, is the play or the color guy
Speaker 1: for Patriots Radio Network. He has obviously free time this weekend,
Speaker 1: so he ridiculously over the top Patriots color guy. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Zolak. He also claimed that he had the flu
Speaker 1: and that is why he was tweeting in this manner.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you. I don't remember a Sunday where
Speaker 1: more listeners of the show. We're hitting up my mention
Speaker 1: saying Dan, you're aware of this, right? You see what
Speaker 1: Zola is doing on Twitter? R Hey Dan, just putting
Speaker 1: this on your are so. Yes, we were tracking Zolac
Speaker 1: who went dark, and it made me wonder who shut
Speaker 1: down Zolac? Was it his wife? Was it someone from
Speaker 1: the radio station he works for? Was that the Patriots themselves?
Speaker 1: Because he did not have the flu? It was the
Speaker 1: man flu? What we've all had the flu before. Have
Speaker 1: you been tempted to tweet crazy stuff because you had
Speaker 1: the flu? I don't. I don't see the connection on
Speaker 1: why that led to tweets. Yeah, I've lied before, and
Speaker 1: that's what that felt like. The Texans defense was so bad.
Speaker 1: I guess that Bill O'Brien didn't expects He's like, he's
Speaker 1: my man, and no one claims, and I'm surprised. I
Speaker 1: was more surprised that everyone, like, how many people follow
Speaker 1: Scott Zolak? What's wrong? What's wrong? You're offended? It's sort
Speaker 1: of on you at this point. It's twenty If you've
Speaker 1: got bad people in your Twitter feed, that is entertaining.
Speaker 1: I will say this, Greg is smart because we will
Speaker 1: see him in a couple of weeks on media night
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and we were couched near him
Speaker 1: a couple of the hangover wellfare question. I I think
Speaker 1: you can tell a lot by what Bill O'Brien said
Speaker 1: after the game that basically they had no faith in
Speaker 1: stopping the Chiefs. And if you think about the start
Speaker 1: of that game, it wasn't like the Texans were stopping
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Chiefs were stopping the Chiefs. J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt had a had a rough day against Mitchell Schwartz,
Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless, you know, didn't really make much noise. And
Speaker 1: then what's ultimately a slow team at the linebacker spot
Speaker 1: and not a very good secondary just had matchup problems everywhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sammy Watkins is making plays, Damian Williams is
Speaker 1: making plays. Nicole Hardman made a play. And there was
Speaker 1: a tweet about Mahomes in the locker room after the game,
Speaker 1: like laughing while looking at the statue and they asked
Speaker 1: what and he was he was surprised how many rushing
Speaker 1: yards he had, Like Mahomes to me, this is just
Speaker 1: another example of that he's the biggest dangerous weapon, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call him. To me, He's the most
Speaker 1: talented quarterback that that's ever played in terms of like
Speaker 1: every box being checked, and this was a great example
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, those throws he was making on
Speaker 1: the run to Kelsey, we're outrageous throws. The Texans basically
Speaker 1: had the right defense on those plays a lot of
Speaker 1: times with two on Kelsey and he's on the run
Speaker 1: thrown across his body. We've taken it almost for granted
Speaker 1: that Mahomes just does this because no one else is
Speaker 1: doing this. Sorry, Aaron Rodgers, He's not like, no one
Speaker 1: else is doing it at this level when mom, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers has done this. And it's kind of perfect that
Speaker 1: it happened this weekend. Last year, Mahomes was the bell
Speaker 1: of the ball in the m v P. He threw
Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns, all that good stuff, and then Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: mania took over. And Jackson deserves every bit of positive
Speaker 1: um you know, energy and and uh comments his way
Speaker 1: because he was incredible this season. But on the same
Speaker 1: weekend that Jackson stumbles and goes out of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I felt like this was just Patrick Mahomes reminding everyone, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm the best. I'm am at the top. Of my
Speaker 1: game right now, and I can do things nobody else
Speaker 1: can do. I would say also because it's always every
Speaker 1: the one thing I feel about the Chiefs, it's always
Speaker 1: lost in the offense. And it makes sense because of
Speaker 1: the gaudy numbers. I don't think they get back into
Speaker 1: this game with the speed that they do without Frank
Speaker 1: Clark absolutely devastating the Texans on Keith ur Down's three
Speaker 1: sacks in this game, and they really like they the
Speaker 1: Texans offense went to sleep in a big way because
Speaker 1: they were discombobulated. They allowed twelve sacks and two postseason games.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. Frank Clark. We talked about in the
Speaker 1: preview show that Clark was a guy that was had
Speaker 1: turned into a major menace in the second half of
Speaker 1: the season. And he had three sacks, three tackles for loss,
Speaker 1: four QB hits and he did it when they needed him,
Speaker 1: uh to do it because they're playing shorthanded. Uh this,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're feeling really good about this Chiefs team,
Speaker 1: right they absolutely are. Without getting ahead of ourselves, it's
Speaker 1: not a good defensive performance. I mean, you gave up
Speaker 1: four forty two yards to the Texans. You I know,
Speaker 1: special garbage. Special teams was a problem early, but you
Speaker 1: gave up a lot of big They're not the same
Speaker 1: without Chris Jones. To me, this was a lot closer
Speaker 1: without one Thornhill and Chris Jones on a field to
Speaker 1: the let's get by and let's you know, count on
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to put up forty plus points type of defense.
Speaker 1: Then a defense that was really making a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson played great in this game too,
Speaker 1: He made a ton of plays. I mean the Texans
Speaker 1: offense to me, with Will Fuller played well enough to
Speaker 1: win this game. Well, there's defense, isn't They're not stout
Speaker 1: enough to stop Derrick Henry. But the difference is when
Speaker 1: the Chiefs fall behind, Mahomes is going to pass him
Speaker 1: out of it, When when the Ravens fall behind, They're
Speaker 1: not meant to be a past first operation. They're meant
Speaker 1: to be a run first operation, right it is? I
Speaker 1: do like that Will Fuller play in this game. He
Speaker 1: at five for eighty nine, Hopkins goes nine for one
Speaker 1: eight teen, Kenny Stills gets a touchdown early where they
Speaker 1: victimize uh Swords and like, at least to me, this
Speaker 1: was the Texans team saw the representative effort and they
Speaker 1: weren't good enough. That's fine, but to find the Texans
Speaker 1: you have got to go into next season with a
Speaker 1: duplicate of will Fuller that is actually able to produce
Speaker 1: on a week to be well and just made some
Speaker 1: plays this year. He has the numbers and you broke
Speaker 1: it down last week when he's not on the field.
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, I mean, the offense is compromised. You've got
Speaker 1: to they have work to do. I think they have.
Speaker 1: They're in a good spot though relatively, even though they
Speaker 1: trade away that first round pick. The offense is pretty young.
Speaker 1: It has good continuity. They have all the caps based
Speaker 1: in the world. The defensive players for the most part,
Speaker 1: other than maybe like DJ Reader, are all under contract
Speaker 1: for next year, like they're gonna we know, Bill O'Brien's
Speaker 1: gonna spend money. I mean, there's no reason not to
Speaker 1: expect them to be right back in the mix and
Speaker 1: maybe be better defensively. Romeo Cornell might retire or get
Speaker 1: forced still on this team. Why did they let him
Speaker 1: go on the first place. Could they not afford it
Speaker 1: last year? That's a good question. They didn't think he
Speaker 1: was worth the top level money that Kansas City got
Speaker 1: and they were wrong. And I think Honey Badger wanted
Speaker 1: to go play for a Super Bowl team. All right,
Speaker 1: A couple more numbers and then I, uh stats, and
Speaker 1: then I want to throw it to Andrew Reid for
Speaker 1: the last word. The Chiefs of the first team in
Speaker 1: NFL history, regular season or playoffs to trail by twenty
Speaker 1: four plus point it's in the first half and be
Speaker 1: tied or leading entering halftime. Again, truly unique. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: scored fifty one points in a span of thirty two minutes.
Speaker 1: And they they also announced on their big video board
Speaker 1: late in the game that they had run out of
Speaker 1: fireworks at Arrowheads. Literally the Chiefs that scored so many
Speaker 1: points and so many times they ran that break out.
Speaker 1: That was uh. And finally here's Andy Reid on what
Speaker 1: he you know, said and what he was projecting to
Speaker 1: his players when things were looking very bad. I just said, listen,
Speaker 1: this isn't you. I mean, let's just get back relaxed,
Speaker 1: pump the brakes here for about a second, and uh, focus, refocus,
Speaker 1: and let's go. I mean, that's it's that's simple. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in that situation You've only got a
Speaker 1: few quarters to play this game, so you gotta get
Speaker 1: it done and uh no need to panic, right, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna help it at all. So you just try
Speaker 1: to fix the problem. And that's kind of what we did.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mitch Holt as I listened to a tiny
Speaker 1: bit of the radio broadcast near the end of the
Speaker 1: second quarter, and he pointed out, uh that Andy Reid
Speaker 1: is the king of the flash point, like he is
Speaker 1: a guy that when things are going sideways. He one
Speaker 1: of his great skills as a head coach is getting
Speaker 1: a team under control, making sure they don't panic, making
Speaker 1: the adjustments, and also being that type of figure, uh
Speaker 1: that you could kind of not get spooked by get
Speaker 1: spooked over. Um, so read good coach. Good number one
Speaker 1: overall pick in the coaches. It was you, Dan, I
Speaker 1: think who said that you had a envisioned of course
Speaker 1: to circle back, but you envisioned him at opening night
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl week. Was I mean you You've you
Speaker 1: put a lot of people into that envisioning role this
Speaker 1: when you put Rogers there, I'm sure there's three. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get your wish on me with the
Speaker 1: Ravens to me with the Ravens out, Mahomes read, I,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the a story, at least
Speaker 1: for me. I'm sure obviously fan bases would feel differently,
Speaker 1: But you're confusing me with Greg By the way, he
Speaker 1: wanted someone on the riser. I couldn't Kirk Cousins wanted Cousins,
Speaker 1: I know, but I dismissed. I dismissed that vision at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. Uh, Like Andy Reid's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest coaches of all time. I mean he to me,
Speaker 1: he's much more of a Hall of Famer, you know
Speaker 1: than some some coaches that are in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: And he's got his young quarterback like this. If ever
Speaker 1: there was a time, this is his time. The Patriots
Speaker 1: lost to give him this by you know, the the
Speaker 1: Ravens lost to set up home field advantage, like if
Speaker 1: not now, then when he took it. Yeah, one of
Speaker 1: his crazed, maniacal tweets Zolac today was, no, no, this
Speaker 1: will be happening if we just beat the Dolphins. Well
Speaker 1: that's true. About to take care of business, all right,
Speaker 1: let's add to halftime sit By the way, you mentioned
Speaker 1: coaches that belong in the Hall of Fame Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1: One of the great UH studio moments I've seen in
Speaker 1: a long time was the Big Man from the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, your boy Mark David Baker, bigger than a
Speaker 1: front tour. He lumbers out that guy is a man
Speaker 1: and he makes the official announced. Jimmy Johnson immediately knows
Speaker 1: what it means when he sees big Man Baker coming
Speaker 1: and fit all four of us inside of David David
Speaker 1: Baker's form. He's a man and UH and Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: on live television during the halftime of the late game,
Speaker 1: finds out he's going to the Hall of Fame in
Speaker 1: part of the NFL one class UH. The day before
Speaker 1: the same dogg and pony trick was pulled. UH. Well,
Speaker 1: Baker went cross country. He was in New York for
Speaker 1: the CBS show and Bill Cower also getting in. But
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Johnson one was excellent because he could barely talk.
Speaker 1: He was so choked up. All of us with asthma
Speaker 1: were running through our running for our inhalers. What it
Speaker 1: looked like. He was so choked up that he was
Speaker 1: having trouble breathing, And I thought, whoever the producer was
Speaker 1: that that said, let's shoot, let's get a Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: shot here. That was gold. Yeah, And I think, like
Speaker 1: what we we talked about our favorite announcer duos at
Speaker 1: this point, and I had to go with Aikman because
Speaker 1: of just my early football fandom and what that Cowboys
Speaker 1: team and what Aikman meant to me. But Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: is so tied and woven into that. I know that
Speaker 1: he was there for you know, about half the time
Speaker 1: that Aikman was, but he changed NFL history and I
Speaker 1: and I feel, honestly, we're at the point where it's
Speaker 1: not just these old timers getting to the Hall of
Speaker 1: famous people that we watched and kind of bathed in
Speaker 1: their careers and saw them do what they do. And
Speaker 1: I I honestly, because I was walking in as it
Speaker 1: was happening, dams like get over here, it made me
Speaker 1: feel something to watch Jimmy Johnson and I did and
Speaker 1: it wasn't that was a whole different experience, but it
Speaker 1: was this. These are the things that Mark felt all week,
Speaker 1: and I remember things that make me love football because
Speaker 1: it's like it is a crowning achievement on someone that
Speaker 1: probably should have been in a long time. And he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys to all the other coaches revere
Speaker 1: like Belichick and all the other coaches revere him as
Speaker 1: one of the all time grades and couldn't understand. And
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if not only Belichick helped him
Speaker 1: get in because he was on this, you know panel,
Speaker 1: but our old friend Elliott Harrison and Gil Brandt, who
Speaker 1: Elliott would stump so hard for Jimmy Johnson and he
Speaker 1: was in that room as part of the panels. So
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Johnson was a guy who was like
Speaker 1: a mistake getting corrected. Actually, I have footage of what
Speaker 1: I called Mark. I was like, Mark, come here, I
Speaker 1: sit on my lap. Oh yeah, that is it has
Speaker 1: been a weird show. That is not how that went.
Speaker 1: I remember learning like five years ago that Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: was not in the Hall of Fame, and and I
Speaker 1: was just shocked by that. Right, how is he not
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. People forget how much of
Speaker 1: a wild leap it was to have a college coach
Speaker 1: come in and suddenly take over an NFL team. Really
Speaker 1: got upstaged, you know, because it was a cowards moment
Speaker 1: was great too. Nice moment for Bill too. It's great.
Speaker 1: In other future Hall of Fame head coach news, the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns have made a higher Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski is their new head coach. NFL Network insider Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport reported Sunday morning comes a day after the Vikings
Speaker 1: season ended. Uh. In that loss of the Niners, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to in a little bit. Uh, but that
Speaker 1: didn't deter the Browns, who, after eight interviews, Robert Sala
Speaker 1: the Niners d C was very close to getting the job,
Speaker 1: it sounds like as well, but did not happen. The
Speaker 1: ghost Stefanski, who was the eighteen full time head coach
Speaker 1: in franchise history. But I believe it, what is it twelve,
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot in the last decade or so. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Mark Stefanski in for Freddie Kitchens. Your take, Well, it
Speaker 1: leaves me, you know, it's hard to even know who
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski is, so I it's to wait and see
Speaker 1: on that. And they and they've interviewed him now for
Speaker 1: about the range of sixteen seventeen hours over two off seasons.
Speaker 1: And Paul de Potesta, their analytics guy wanted him last
Speaker 1: year and got his way this year. And I truly
Speaker 1: do think he got his way because the the word
Speaker 1: essentially is that Josh McDaniels went in there and what
Speaker 1: he wanted to do was suggest massive sweeping changes to
Speaker 1: the Browns top down, take the organization, put it in
Speaker 1: the blender, and recreate it in Josh McDaniel's image. Right,
Speaker 1: And Stefanski and I mentioned here on a tweet that
Speaker 1: I thought he looks to me a little bit like
Speaker 1: a hot dad with a complicated home life in a
Speaker 1: Netflix dramedy, because he certainly is a good looking coach,
Speaker 1: looks the part. I don't know what much more about
Speaker 1: him at this point, so that's my the end of
Speaker 1: my commentary on him. But it was it was Stefanski
Speaker 1: who went in and said, I will work with Dee Podesta,
Speaker 1: which includes at this point it sounds, according to reports,
Speaker 1: having an analytics person in your headset, which is not offensive.
Speaker 1: That makes total sense to me. But also a lot
Speaker 1: of do that. So that's like, if they weren't doing that,
Speaker 1: you're catching them up, and that's fine. But also Jimmy
Speaker 1: Haslum did not want to part ways with certain structures
Speaker 1: and certain people inside the organization. So I think whatever
Speaker 1: happens with Josh McDaniels down the road and where he goes,
Speaker 1: they will always be measured by these other coaches that
Speaker 1: they did not bring into the building because Stefanski essentially
Speaker 1: would do what Haslam wanted to do without blowing up
Speaker 1: the apple cart. What about the report from Dustin Fox
Speaker 1: that the new head coach will have to hand in
Speaker 1: his homework on Friday so Deep Podesta can take out
Speaker 1: his red pen and make it copious notes all over
Speaker 1: the game plan. I mean, I don't again like it's
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna get killed with that kind of report.
Speaker 1: Other teams are fewed as forward thinking and right where
Speaker 1: they should be, because yeah, you don't have to find
Speaker 1: the Browns here. What would you think if any team
Speaker 1: decided that all the work you put in during the
Speaker 1: week on your game plan, we have to run this
Speaker 1: through an analytics calls to see if it's okay. I
Speaker 1: think that the Browns have been b line dysfunctional, and
Speaker 1: that feels a little bit like you're not empowering your
Speaker 1: coaching staff to me. But again, I don't like I
Speaker 1: want to see what thirty one other teams are doing.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things we you know, we hit
Speaker 1: on the show every year at this time of like
Speaker 1: the front office and the coach being totally aligned, and
Speaker 1: it's tricky when you're not hiring both at the same time.
Speaker 1: And this is what happens. You have a group of
Speaker 1: people interviewing potential coach isn't where where if you hired McDaniels,
Speaker 1: he would essentially make the some of the people interviewing,
Speaker 1: you know, redundant or out of a job. So of
Speaker 1: course they're not going to hire him, and that's that's
Speaker 1: sort of that's potentially problematic. But if the structure that
Speaker 1: has them actually is setting up, you know, is a
Speaker 1: is a good idea, then it will work out fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, you know, past history doesn't give
Speaker 1: him the benefit of that at all. Josh McDaniels not hired.
Speaker 1: Looks like he'll be back in New England for another
Speaker 1: year at the very least. Um, I feel like Browns
Speaker 1: fans seemed to be hoping it was McDaniels. I think
Speaker 1: I think that doesn't feel like a huge miss there.
Speaker 1: I mean no, but I think that kind of like
Speaker 1: Salah just because I wanted to see what I just
Speaker 1: Salas felt like a wild card. Well, but also did
Speaker 1: you see the clip where, uh, there there was some
Speaker 1: sort of interview being staged and there's a Niners sort
Speaker 1: of office door behind it, and the door barrels open
Speaker 1: and Sala runs through on his cell phone and like
Speaker 1: sees the camera and darts off screen. And that was
Speaker 1: like was he talking to the Browns on his phone
Speaker 1: right there? Because it was like right before the Vikings
Speaker 1: Niners game, which we'll get um real quick because this
Speaker 1: would fall through the cracks otherwise. The Broncos make a
Speaker 1: move on their coaching staff that surprised people. Rich Skang
Speaker 1: Garollo Skanks Skangs. He's out after one year as the
Speaker 1: o c there um and he's replaced by Pat Shermer,
Speaker 1: the recently h dismissed head coach of the Giants. Shermer
Speaker 1: obviously has a long history as an offensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: an offensive mind. Uh that makes sense that they would
Speaker 1: want to bring him in the building. But people were
Speaker 1: surprised Greg that this whole angle drew lock. He's had
Speaker 1: the nice ending to their season. Their offense got better
Speaker 1: that near the end of the season. Why kind of
Speaker 1: blow things up and start over your thoughts. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think Elway. John Elway just is dead set on improving
Speaker 1: this offense. And they weren't. They weren't in love with
Speaker 1: you know, Skangs as a first year coordinator. They're getting
Speaker 1: a guy who has a lot more experience in Shermer.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're gonna go wild about Pat Shermer either,
Speaker 1: but kudos to him for the old double dip. He's
Speaker 1: going to be getting that nice Giants head coaching check
Speaker 1: and then get a little something to Mr vic Fongio
Speaker 1: was determined, Fania was determined to this offense, and it
Speaker 1: was not improved. At the end of the year, they
Speaker 1: averaged two eighty nine yards and Drew Locks starts compared
Speaker 1: to three huntert Nate from the other quarterbacks, and they
Speaker 1: were the only team in the NFL to finish bottom
Speaker 1: five and all four of points, yards, third down percentage,
Speaker 1: and red zoom percentage. Maybe this is a little lot
Speaker 1: of ra mcnefe coo that despite what always said at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, he's not that freaked out
Speaker 1: that Drew Lock has to start over with the new coach,
Speaker 1: because maybe he's not in love with Drew lock anyway
Speaker 1: at this point, who I was saying, if I if
Speaker 1: he really did finish struggling, and you really believed in
Speaker 1: this kid, he's my future, maybe you would hesitate to
Speaker 1: make a change here. I saw it for the sake
Speaker 1: of continuity and Shermer's solid, But I did see a
Speaker 1: tweet that's stuck in my head a little bit, just
Speaker 1: like Shermer's, you know, gone a long way the last
Speaker 1: few years with you know, on the reputation of an
Speaker 1: offense where case Keena played like Lamar Jackson for eight days,
Speaker 1: for eight games, you know, like where Case Keenan was
Speaker 1: just basically running around and you just been like, like
Speaker 1: Case Keena was running around at defenders were like clashing
Speaker 1: into each other, like falling all over before he threw
Speaker 1: like a sixty yard bomb and sudden they suddenly pat
Speaker 1: Servers getting all the credit for it. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was about like can you remember that? That was a
Speaker 1: wild time the case King and Vikings hal All right,
Speaker 1: that ends our halftime. Let's get back to action. Let's
Speaker 1: head to Baltimore. Shocker at the bank, Tannehill under center,
Speaker 1: play fake Tannehill looking throwing deep down field, going for
Speaker 1: Raymond who's there? Can he hold it? Yes? Touchdown? Titans.
Speaker 1: Raven went to the ground as he laid out and
Speaker 1: storing in the divisional round. The hey is outside the barn,
Speaker 1: it's everywhere, and it's not going in for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: As Mike Keith just told you, it was exactly the
Speaker 1: opposite of what people expected. The Titans show up and
Speaker 1: blow the doors off the Ravens to twelve at the bank.
Speaker 1: Ryan's Hannehill making big passes early on Derrick Henry doing
Speaker 1: what Derrick Henry does. Thirty carries a hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: five yards. That's big boy football, Chris Westling. And here
Speaker 1: we are the nine and seven Titans of now won
Speaker 1: two playoff games, and they knock off the number one
Speaker 1: seed in the a f C and the team that
Speaker 1: everyone seemed to believe was the number one team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. How they do it well. I loved what
Speaker 1: Vrabel said after the Patriots game when they asked him
Speaker 1: about how do you measure a team's toughness, and he said,
Speaker 1: short yardage, both lines, kick coverage, in the run game,
Speaker 1: and the Titans excelled in all of those areas. And
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows that the two fourth down stuffs
Speaker 1: were the turning points in the game. After the first
Speaker 1: one first play, Tannehill hits that perfect play action bomb
Speaker 1: to Cliff Raymond, and after the second one on third
Speaker 1: and one, um Derrick Henry goes sixty six yards. After that,
Speaker 1: those were backbreakers. I did think the other really deflating
Speaker 1: sequence was that drive just four halftime, Lamar Jackson's best
Speaker 1: drive at the game, where Iron Eagle is trying to
Speaker 1: tell us on third and sixteen they should go conservative
Speaker 1: and just you know, go for something and just punt
Speaker 1: it back to the Titans, and he ends up hitting
Speaker 1: the pass and they're taking straight here that great one
Speaker 1: handed catch by Holly by Hollywood Brown in the middle
Speaker 1: of a Bermuda triangle of Titans defenders. But it's so
Speaker 1: deflating to have the clock beat you right there and
Speaker 1: you run out of time. Got a shot at the
Speaker 1: beard while we're here. No, just like this is two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty, not nineteen. You don't you don't just run
Speaker 1: the ball into the line on third and sixteen. I
Speaker 1: knew it sounds come on. I would like to hear more.
Speaker 1: Come on, bird and we you know, we've kind of liked.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a huge fan of the Bird and
Speaker 1: the Beard. The Mark once told an entire bar full
Speaker 1: of people they better start reflecting respecting Iron Eagles. Well
Speaker 1: they weren't. Did they respect him by the end of
Speaker 1: I don't know if the message was extremely clear, but
Speaker 1: I I know this sounds so basic, but the one
Speaker 1: thing that hit me watching like the Baltimore's two losses
Speaker 1: this year was the only way to kind of get
Speaker 1: them out of the monster's flow they seemed to get
Speaker 1: in every game was to get lucky with major mistakes
Speaker 1: and they and and turnovers. And that's what happened in
Speaker 1: this game. And it and unlike the Chiefs I really expected.
Speaker 1: I was watching this at home with Calton, who was like,
Speaker 1: thought the Ravens were real the super Bowl was kind
Speaker 1: of blown away by what was happening because the Titans,
Speaker 1: like are just not had not been on everyone's radar
Speaker 1: to this degree, especially not this juggernaut version of the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. And they could not get out
Speaker 1: of their own way. And I just waited and waited
Speaker 1: for them to get back on track in their flow,
Speaker 1: start doing what the Chiefs did down the stretch today
Speaker 1: and it never happened. It was like observing just a
Speaker 1: bad dream that you expect to wake up from and
Speaker 1: it's actually October eight and their seven And oh, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that Lamar Jackson and the Ravens were on
Speaker 1: tilt in this game, but you could see it in
Speaker 1: their faces and you had sense it in that crowd
Speaker 1: that there was a bit of shock that they don't
Speaker 1: play from behind. They haven't been any situations. I think
Speaker 1: part of the shock was it didn't feel like there
Speaker 1: was this was luck that was leading to the Titans,
Speaker 1: uh pouring it on and jumping out to this four
Speaker 1: team nothing leading and essentially coasting to win. They just
Speaker 1: got beat, and they got beat handily, and that is
Speaker 1: pretty hard to figure out. And we were talking about
Speaker 1: it last week. Mark, you were making the point that
Speaker 1: people tend to get two wrapped up in the team
Speaker 1: that just played and forget about the bye week. This
Speaker 1: was the other side of the coin where the team
Speaker 1: that had to buy and then the team that was
Speaker 1: so good that they didn't even play Week seventeen. They're
Speaker 1: big guys. They come out and they did look rusty
Speaker 1: and I and I do not want this to be
Speaker 1: like the storyline that everyone talks about. But it's fair
Speaker 1: to bring it up that the Ravens were just cooking
Speaker 1: all season. They disappear for twenty days and when they
Speaker 1: come back they're a different team. They were taken out
Speaker 1: of their element. I mean they're running backs at nine
Speaker 1: carries in this game, he had a runner to where
Speaker 1: he looked okay, But you know they didn't use Gus Edwards.
Speaker 1: They just didn't like hand the ball off. You know,
Speaker 1: when markis Brown is catching seven, Snead catches six, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like that's that's not exactly who the Ravens are.
Speaker 1: And I give so much credit to the Titans for
Speaker 1: taking them out of who they are, especially on offense.
Speaker 1: You know the Ravens the Titans offense. That is, the
Speaker 1: Ravens built their team from the back to the front,
Speaker 1: and I think I think the Rams did this, I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots is I think the Titans have done this.
Speaker 1: That it's an interesting, maybe smart way to use your
Speaker 1: cap space, build up this big secondary and blitz. They've
Speaker 1: been blitzing like crazy. All the money's back there. They
Speaker 1: couldn't even play those guys like Jimmy Smith barely played
Speaker 1: in the game because the Titans didn't have many receivers
Speaker 1: on the field. It was they had to defend something
Speaker 1: they weren't really totally ready to defend. You can't blitze
Speaker 1: every down, which is basically what they did all season
Speaker 1: when the other team's not throwing the ball. It was
Speaker 1: like they kind of neutered what the Ravens were do
Speaker 1: being so well And I think that was Drew on
Speaker 1: the other side, where they really dared them to pass
Speaker 1: all game, and the Ravens obliges and and they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. I felt like Lamar Jackson's passes were, you know,
Speaker 1: he's been a crisp thrower in other games to the
Speaker 1: point where that was one of his biggest, you know,
Speaker 1: elements of growth this season. He just seemed to be off.
Speaker 1: And how many name another game for Baltimore this year
Speaker 1: where they had a drive crumble at the thirty six
Speaker 1: with an interception, another one crumbled the thirty one with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson pick, and then a drive that crumbled on
Speaker 1: downs at the Titans eighteen. That's they left they Lamar's
Speaker 1: on the board, and then they got into a really
Speaker 1: rough because I think I actually think Lamar played and
Speaker 1: through the ball pretty well after the first quarter, but
Speaker 1: the short yardage runs that got stuffed were killed in
Speaker 1: an absolute killer. Why is he throwing the ball fIF
Speaker 1: and then and then the two he had three turnovers.
Speaker 1: I'm not really gonna put the first one on him.
Speaker 1: That was the sort of bad luck that you're talking
Speaker 1: about that suddenly it got spooky. That was basically a
Speaker 1: drop by Hayden Hurst. The other two turnovers were on him,
Speaker 1: and that's not what he did during the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: he threw a bad pick and he and he fumbled
Speaker 1: and lost the ball that he shouldn't have and that
Speaker 1: fumbled to me was what was pretty telling that game
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Simmons just took the ball away and forgetting
Speaker 1: right now, who was the raven that was there? But
Speaker 1: when Lamar fumbled it, there was a Ravens player there
Speaker 1: first it seemed like he had recovered and Jeffrey Simmons
Speaker 1: just comes in there and steals the ball and like
Speaker 1: that was kind of like one of the big players
Speaker 1: of the game is he just like grabbed it away
Speaker 1: from And on the flip side, you have John who
Speaker 1: Smith making one of the better catches we've seen in
Speaker 1: you know, ten years worth the playoffs. But they were
Speaker 1: just making the the split butt sheet catch like they're
Speaker 1: just making they were making plays and the little trick
Speaker 1: play from Derrick Henry into table. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: they got creative and they against the Patriots. They didn't
Speaker 1: care about New England's legacy, they didn't care about Foxborough
Speaker 1: or any of that nonsense. For Scott so luck. They
Speaker 1: had no fear. And my question was would that carry
Speaker 1: over to this week because we talked about the Titans
Speaker 1: being loose, but the Ravens have been loose the entire
Speaker 1: season and they just simply carried on with the same
Speaker 1: exact force and power or of a week ago. You
Speaker 1: talked about that no fear, and to me, the one
Speaker 1: play that is emblematic of the Titans team is Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry shoving Earl Thomas around and the stiff arm and
Speaker 1: then shoving him in the back. I wrote an article
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen when John Robinson was hired
Speaker 1: as GM. Their purpose in life is going to be
Speaker 1: get big and shove around all these teams that are
Speaker 1: going nickels dime packages, getting small and speedy at linebacker,
Speaker 1: and the Titans plan was less. Draft Jack Conklin at
Speaker 1: right tackle, put him with Taylor Lawan, pick up some
Speaker 1: guards and plile Derrick Henry through your defense. And that's
Speaker 1: what they've been doing. This is a tough team, and
Speaker 1: they remind me so much. Mark, We're old enough for this.
Speaker 1: John Riggins and the Hogs with the Redskins where they
Speaker 1: are on a historically great playoff run, with their running games.
Speaker 1: When the Texans go up fourteen, nothing than twenty one,
Speaker 1: nothing than twenty four and nothing. The reason why I
Speaker 1: felt like the Chiefs had a chance is because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are so explosive, obviously, and the Texans they didn't
Speaker 1: have like a Derrick Henry. That's why whence it got
Speaker 1: to four teen nothing in this game, like they also
Speaker 1: have Derrick Henry, who is the evolutionary Earl Campbell. Right now,
Speaker 1: you knew the Ravens were in serious trouble. And that's
Speaker 1: and I do not want to overshadow what the Titans
Speaker 1: did because and the Titans fans always think I'm a
Speaker 1: get you. I'm I am really, how how could you
Speaker 1: not be out? I mean, the how impressive they played,
Speaker 1: it was incredible. But I keep going back to I
Speaker 1: cannot believe the egg the Ravens late in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean they were eight for eight in the regular
Speaker 1: season on fourth and one. They go over too in
Speaker 1: this game. That's insane. They had five drop passes according
Speaker 1: to PFF, the most in the game that they've had
Speaker 1: all season. And it just and you know, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: who I didn't think played poorly, but it's crazy throughout
Speaker 1: fifty nine times he ran, how many times he touched
Speaker 1: the ball and more plays in this game than any
Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. It's like it was just like
Speaker 1: marketing and banged up it just like, uh, Lamar save
Speaker 1: us and one player can't do it all. It's crazy
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of that padding at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. But Marlon Humphrey, uh, the Ravens safety.
Speaker 1: He he was very honest about what he felt happened
Speaker 1: to Baltimore in this game. You gotta look some from
Speaker 1: here and I think it's this team right now is
Speaker 1: identity is get the playoffs and show and just you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. That's just the hard truth.
Speaker 1: They haven't they haven't won a PLAYFF. You know, they've lost,
Speaker 1: they've lost, they've you know, the Jaguars have won two
Speaker 1: more playoff games in the last five years, and the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the Ravens haven't haven't won anything. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: I don't think enough time, right, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: true that that's their reputation. I think he's just that's
Speaker 1: his way of of dealing with anger and a defense.
Speaker 1: Like you know, the offense for the scoring twelve is wild,
Speaker 1: that's the lowest that the highest scoring has ever scored.
Speaker 1: But the defense played pretty poorly too, as good as
Speaker 1: the as good as the Titans defense was in short yardage.
Speaker 1: I think of the three runs that Tannehill picked up,
Speaker 1: and tanne was not getting a lot of love for
Speaker 1: these performances, but he had one for a touchdown where
Speaker 1: he made a great decision not to pass it off,
Speaker 1: made a great read like kind of bowled over a
Speaker 1: guy into the end zone. That's the type of Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson play. He had another first down he picked up
Speaker 1: with his legs that led to the first touchdown of
Speaker 1: the game right near the goaling and he had another
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak later in the game. So I know his
Speaker 1: numbers haven't been like unbelievable he's he's done his job.
Speaker 1: They just haven't needed it. They're just doing it a
Speaker 1: different way. It's pretty incredible, though, under a hundred yards
Speaker 1: passing in both games, first and the first quarterback to
Speaker 1: win two playoff games in a row like that since
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw and the I forgot who tweeted this, but
Speaker 1: they their hope was that the Titans would win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and over the course of four playoff games,
Speaker 1: Tannehill would throw for less than four hundred yards, which
Speaker 1: seems possible by the way. Footnote, Dan, you won your lock.
Speaker 1: I not boldly, not boldly locked up the Ravens, kind
Speaker 1: of hedging my bets trying to get into a late
Speaker 1: season showdown with Greg lost the Ravens always there is
Speaker 1: a there's a history of that. But Dan and I
Speaker 1: now sit two games behind Greg, so we are just
Speaker 1: aiming for a three ways high and whatever he does
Speaker 1: to play, Yeah, I just gotta get one right. Jack's
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson set career highs in completions thirty one in
Speaker 1: completion pass attempts, fifty nine passing yards, three sixty five.
Speaker 1: As Greg mentioned, he runs for a hundred and forty
Speaker 1: three yards. Uh. He really did stuff the statueet and
Speaker 1: if your box score scouting again, you're saying, wow, he
Speaker 1: had one of the great NFL games in a losing effort. Ever,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the case either. He didn't point in
Speaker 1: his a game either. It's just to me remarkable what
Speaker 1: happened here. I was kind of proud of football Twitter.
Speaker 1: You had to kind of hunt for people to have
Speaker 1: lousy takes on Lamar Jackson after the game, as if
Speaker 1: they were going to bury him. You had to go
Speaker 1: and find them. They weren't out there. I found a
Speaker 1: couple of howlers if any. If anything, the more annoying
Speaker 1: thing was the guy in the press conference. And this
Speaker 1: happens all the time, who goes you know, Lamar? You know,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are gonna be saying,
Speaker 1: you know that you struggled with the playoffs. How hard
Speaker 1: is it going to be for you to deal with,
Speaker 1: you know, people saying that. It's like you said it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask that. You don't have to ask.
Speaker 1: It's like people are gonna be talking about your playoffs struggles.
Speaker 1: No man, you're talking Oh your criticism all right? The Ravens,
Speaker 1: little punk get that little punk. We'll put a name
Speaker 1: on it if we're going to. Really, I don't know
Speaker 1: who it was, actually I did. I did rewind it
Speaker 1: because I kind of wanted to figure out by the
Speaker 1: voice what who was. But I do want to get
Speaker 1: what I don't know what it does or what it
Speaker 1: doesn't do. But the little calf massage has your gun
Speaker 1: that Marketing Ram was using, and you knew once he
Speaker 1: was doing that is that they're done. It was it
Speaker 1: was it was like pointed. It was going on, I have,
Speaker 1: I have one of those things, and it's the goddamn
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. I mean, it got him back.
Speaker 1: It's not pointing like that. No, it's the more conventional
Speaker 1: one you've probably seen, like you see him on the
Speaker 1: sidelines like a third child. You know. I went on
Speaker 1: a trip with Marketing by the way, mentioned but there
Speaker 1: was a player that had the massage than Gregg is
Speaker 1: talking about, and I thought about that, but this one
Speaker 1: was much more. That was Chris was much more pointed
Speaker 1: and very dangerous. Look almost like a medieval weapon. Yes,
Speaker 1: it looked to medieval to some degree. Quick update on
Speaker 1: on Rhoda Keisha's mom Big Lamar Jackson and she had
Speaker 1: sewed her own like Lamar Jackson Ravens pants and socks,
Speaker 1: and went and went to Buffalo Wild Wings to go
Speaker 1: watch the game. And you know, she went to be Dubs.
Speaker 1: She went to here for a St. Louis Rams fan.
Speaker 1: By the way, we don't have a sponsor, so Be
Speaker 1: Dubs come at us. She was kind of desponded, but
Speaker 1: had a really positive attitude after the game and basically said,
Speaker 1: this is a confident, growing quarterback and it's a good team.
Speaker 1: All they have to do is get stronger next year,
Speaker 1: surround him with better weapons, and we're talking about an
Speaker 1: m v P embracing the challenge and coming back even
Speaker 1: better next sounds like a mother It is hard to
Speaker 1: get back. But they are set up great. They Marshall
Speaker 1: Yanna might retire, Jimmy Smith is probably gone. That they
Speaker 1: have not nearly as many you know, changes as they
Speaker 1: made a year ago. Cap space like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: They're they're set up pretty nicely. Is Derrick Henry gonna
Speaker 1: have the greatest playoff run in the history of the
Speaker 1: NFL for running back? He's been, Yeah, they need to
Speaker 1: win this next one and unbelievable. So the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: We'll play the Kansas City Chiefs in the a f
Speaker 1: C title game at Arrowhead. Let's close it out with
Speaker 1: the first game of the weekend at Big Bell Bottom Third,
Speaker 1: doubting that here comes the gold Rush. Dozens backs get
Speaker 1: intercepted by Richard Sherman. I'll take it back etside the
Speaker 1: thirty yard und dropped down him at twenty eight yard line.
Speaker 1: Your best players are playing their best right now. Good
Speaker 1: call there, Greg Papa, Niners Radio Network. Richard Sherman, he
Speaker 1: saw it coming, he read Kirk Cousins. He made the
Speaker 1: play a big interception. The Niners get the ball back,
Speaker 1: they run it eight times in a row for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Goodbye game over. San Francisco cruises to to ten win
Speaker 1: over the overmatch the Minnesota Vikings. Mark the Niners dominated
Speaker 1: this game on defense and in the running game. I
Speaker 1: don't care what error were in. You in good shape
Speaker 1: when you're doing that. I mean it's one of those
Speaker 1: games where you could tell within five or six minutes
Speaker 1: that the Vikings, and they have done this a number
Speaker 1: of times late in this season, pulling West, as you tweeted,
Speaker 1: just an ultra no show and they just were not there.
Speaker 1: And and that's why I just consider the nine are
Speaker 1: so dangerous because they got finally healthy on defense, and
Speaker 1: I thought de Ford made a couple of plays earlier
Speaker 1: that mattered. You're getting big plays from Kendrick Borne. You've
Speaker 1: got Tevin Coleman, who has been relatively you know, not
Speaker 1: not really the big part of this lineup used excessively.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan must have just thought this is the guy
Speaker 1: to lean on this week. Jimmy g doing what he
Speaker 1: needed to do, one turnover early, but really made a
Speaker 1: lot of great throws and they just absolutely dominated the
Speaker 1: vikings to me, did not The one thing that concerned me,
Speaker 1: and we mentioned this on the on the preview show,
Speaker 1: was you have to establish right away Dalvin Cook like
Speaker 1: they did a week ago against the State. They really
Speaker 1: really tried to the point where it was like, give
Speaker 1: me a break. But he had like I think he
Speaker 1: had eighteen yards on the entire day, and they just
Speaker 1: could not play the kind of offense they wanted to play.
Speaker 1: And at the point where we talked about Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 1: and they were saying that Cleveland was looking at that
Speaker 1: game as a referendum of Salaver's you know, Stefanski. I mean,
Speaker 1: Salah absolutely dropped an a bomb on the Vikings. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how they came out with the answer
Speaker 1: they did on that front, but this was don't you
Speaker 1: gonna get No, I don't, but you're gonna get one
Speaker 1: of these every divisional round weekend. I feel like, justin
Speaker 1: justin Apps almost you have to just sit back and
Speaker 1: accept it a beat down and this is what this is,
Speaker 1: that this is. I think Vikings fans probably within fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty minutes of kickoff just said, I understand, We're
Speaker 1: not we are not going to compete in this He
Speaker 1: is an easy one to digest if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of the losing team, because yeah, they're out gained. Well,
Speaker 1: the Niners only put up the under in a total
Speaker 1: yards are off offense, But when you put up a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven and a big chunk of that
Speaker 1: comes on a digs play early on. Uh, they just
Speaker 1: were unable to do anything in this game. And it
Speaker 1: was so clear even though they were hanging around score
Speaker 1: wise for much of the first half. UH, and even
Speaker 1: early in the third quarter, the game just felt over
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Yeah, even in that third quarter, the forty
Speaker 1: Niners were only up by a little bit, but they
Speaker 1: had twenty first downs to the Vikings four. At that point,
Speaker 1: that's a perfect and then twelve straight runs down your
Speaker 1: throat to put the game out of each just disrespectful
Speaker 1: and a reminder about the forty Niners that when they're healthy,
Speaker 1: this team is exceptionally deep and talented, to the point
Speaker 1: where you've got Matt Brita as a garbage time afterthought.
Speaker 1: You can do things like put a Manual Moseley in
Speaker 1: your starting lineup and take a Kello Witherspoon out if
Speaker 1: he's struggling a little bit. They've just got a lot
Speaker 1: of parts that they can move around. You can have
Speaker 1: D four, it is a designated pass rusher when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: Kwan Alexander and they're making plays. This is a deep, deep,
Speaker 1: talented team. You have that drive where they just ran
Speaker 1: it down. The stats really the whole game. If you
Speaker 1: watch the two running games, I kind of was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, you had Kubiak on one side and you
Speaker 1: had Kyle Shanahan on the other side, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I am the real Shanahan. I am the real son
Speaker 1: of Mike Shanahan. We have the Broncos running game were
Speaker 1: the offensive line that you can just put in anyone
Speaker 1: behind like Braheem Most or call you know whoever it is,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be able to run the ball. Whereas
Speaker 1: you have an all pro running back and you're trying
Speaker 1: to be the Shanahan running game and it's not really happened.
Speaker 1: I think the surprise was because coming off of last week,
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons, I think, Greg that you
Speaker 1: were high on them was that the Vikings defense looked
Speaker 1: like they had turned a big corner. But it mattered
Speaker 1: a lot to get Mike McGlinchey and Joe Staley back
Speaker 1: at tackle. I mean, to your point, when they're healthy.
Speaker 1: Now their line is healthy again, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't see uh an overt weakness because you don't have
Speaker 1: to have Jimmy g do what Patrick Mahomes is doing.
Speaker 1: He through for a hundred and thirty one yards. But
Speaker 1: they imposed the will. We've got a lot of these
Speaker 1: playoff teams at this point that when you run the
Speaker 1: ball at this time of year, like and I know
Speaker 1: that's super cliche, but the Niners simply do it effectively.
Speaker 1: And the Vikings did not have a first down in
Speaker 1: the second half until five minutes left when the game
Speaker 1: was over. Well, this defensive that that was so unbelievable
Speaker 1: in the first half of the year, partly because of injuries,
Speaker 1: but I'm not putting it all on injuries. That they
Speaker 1: weren't the same down the stretch. You just wanted to
Speaker 1: see that kind of before and you saw it. I
Speaker 1: mean Armstead, Bossa and Buckner combined for twenty two pressures.
Speaker 1: I mean those three guys alone just they killed him.
Speaker 1: I mean Cousins didn't play well. He had a bad pick.
Speaker 1: He there was a couple of times where he had
Speaker 1: some time and he just took an easy check down.
Speaker 1: I mean Dalvin Cook had six catches for eight yards.
Speaker 1: But it's I don't know. I don't think it would
Speaker 1: have mattered if you played well in this tweeted this,
Speaker 1: so credit the end. But how about your quarterback makes
Speaker 1: a play out of structure just one time. How about
Speaker 1: when the running game is shut down, you find a
Speaker 1: way to make plays when they pressure you. I mean
Speaker 1: you're allowed to do that. And for the second time
Speaker 1: in four weeks, they basically came one floater two stephon
Speaker 1: digs away from a in aptitude on off my My
Speaker 1: lasting image from this game was just Cousins with his
Speaker 1: with his hands over his ears. He's like, I can't
Speaker 1: hear I can't. I mean, didn't you guys see that
Speaker 1: a million times in this game as he's just like
Speaker 1: he's kind of shaking his head trying to hear the
Speaker 1: play because it's so loud there, and then check down.
Speaker 1: It's been a good year at the Big Bell Bottom
Speaker 1: for a stadium that's gotten a ton of heat and
Speaker 1: criticism to the point where some people can't even sit
Speaker 1: on one side of the stadium because it was built
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. It's all sorts of heat around
Speaker 1: Levin Stadium, but there have been several spots where that
Speaker 1: place his sounded loud. Here's a stat um that where
Speaker 1: was it? Did I lose it? I was so excited
Speaker 1: talking about the Big Bell Bottom while you get there.
Speaker 1: You know, one visual that I thought illustrated how this
Speaker 1: stadium had an ability to explode was when Joey Bosa,
Speaker 1: who was dominant yesterday with two sacks, was down on
Speaker 1: the ground near the end of the game with an
Speaker 1: injury and it looked like he wasn't moving for a bit,
Speaker 1: and he was kind of whispering and not moving to
Speaker 1: the trainers. Then they kind of got away from him,
Speaker 1: and his body started shaking like Hulk Hogan, like or
Speaker 1: what's they talk about all these other wrestlers Ultimate War
Speaker 1: just like his body and like rising up, stood up
Speaker 1: and just started dancing up and down the field in
Speaker 1: the state he went litterally. It was Tidwell moment. Rry
Speaker 1: maguire exactly after Tidwell stopper is a massive brain injury.
Speaker 1: He's doing backflips in the end zone. Uh, here's the staff.
Speaker 1: The forty Niners are the second team since the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy merger to allow fewer than thirty rushing yards and
Speaker 1: have more than six sacks in a playoff game. The
Speaker 1: other team the Bears and Super Bowl. Anytime you get
Speaker 1: connected to the five Bears, you're doing something very very good.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That is why it could have been
Speaker 1: a lot worse. Like the forty Diners didn't need to
Speaker 1: score more so, and I almost felt like they took
Speaker 1: the foot off, you know, the gas a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like they played really well offensively. Five of their first
Speaker 1: six drives had eight plus plays. Jimmy Garoppolo and his
Speaker 1: wide receivers made plays. Especially the numbers aren't that crazy
Speaker 1: for Jimmy G. But if you look at I think
Speaker 1: there was three or four different third and lungs which
Speaker 1: were high difficulty throws under pressure, and guys like Born,
Speaker 1: Samuel and Sanders like made tough catches too off of
Speaker 1: good throws like Jimmy j played well too, kind of
Speaker 1: like Tannehill. The numbers weren't great, but other than the
Speaker 1: interception he played, this will this will be very, very
Speaker 1: tired even by Tuesday's episode, but you are going to
Speaker 1: get Kyle Shanahan versus Matt Lafleur now, which I think
Speaker 1: is a nice master student show which we just had
Speaker 1: that Kyle another another potential for I am the real Shanahan.
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt, I mean he was he was there.
Speaker 1: He was there in um in uh Washington, that would
Speaker 1: that's an aggressive claim. He was there in um Hooters
Speaker 1: once uh Jeff Darlington introduced me to the this brand
Speaker 1: new like Washington Redskins coaching staff, and it was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's Kyle Sanahan and a bunch of his friends.
Speaker 1: And they looked, you know, they were tenures. They were
Speaker 1: younger than me. But then I was like, what is
Speaker 1: happening right now? The flower If he can go into
Speaker 1: San Francisco and and get a w the bearded boy
Speaker 1: becomes the bearded man that I think he's not a
Speaker 1: boy now, he's moved beyond boyhood. He's he's an adolescent
Speaker 1: with a beard. Now the bearded team, then he'd be
Speaker 1: a man with a beard, and no one has a
Speaker 1: problem with a man with a beard. Uh. Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: you heard at the top thirty eight career interceptions, and
Speaker 1: he's been down this road before West. He's been in
Speaker 1: the NFL's version of the Final Four several times. Uh.
Speaker 1: He knows how to play the narrative game. Going into
Speaker 1: the big ball game. People just keep disrespecting us um
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, all you can
Speaker 1: do is go out there and impose your will and execute.
Speaker 1: And that's what our d line and our secondary in
Speaker 1: our linebackers were able to do. Our offense did a
Speaker 1: great job of scoring points um and take advantage of
Speaker 1: the opportunities. Felt good. It felt good. That's that's what
Speaker 1: we look like. More. We're totally healthy. Have they been
Speaker 1: totally disrespected? I mean missed something there by Greg he
Speaker 1: was talking to be forgot. I mean, here's what happens
Speaker 1: if if if fifteen of the like analysts out there
Speaker 1: pick against your team, then it's like wild disrespect or
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like yeah, of course, like if
Speaker 1: you have there's a million idiots like us talking about
Speaker 1: these games, and so yeah, like eight, only eight out
Speaker 1: of ten pick the forty Niners. In an incredibly unpredictable sport,
Speaker 1: it's necessary, you've got to craft some straw men. As
Speaker 1: that said, it was a horrific prediction. I mean, this
Speaker 1: was the one sided blood beat. I mean, in your defense,
Speaker 1: you've also predicted the Vikings to lose by thirty points
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, so you didn't totally get wrong.
Speaker 1: They lost convincingly. Was just earlier any final thoughts there
Speaker 1: was before these playoffs started, there was one team in
Speaker 1: the last decade that ran on at least six of
Speaker 1: their plays. Now there are four. The Titans have done
Speaker 1: it twice in the forty Niners did it. It's a
Speaker 1: running playoff. It's well yeah, and it's crazy that the
Speaker 1: Ravens aren't involved too. I was thinking that with the Titans,
Speaker 1: it was like this team who's kind of like playing
Speaker 1: football a totally different way. You know, went into Baltimore
Speaker 1: and beat them, like Ryan Tannehill as your revolutionary leader,
Speaker 1: and den Pas Dean Peas is just mowing through organizations
Speaker 1: who didn't want them anymore. Go up and take out Belichick,
Speaker 1: go up and take out Yeah, the Ravens out. You
Speaker 1: try to retire me, please, I'm Dean Pas, Jared bel
Speaker 1: dear Marshawn Lynch. Dean Pease, retirement means nothing these days.
Speaker 1: Bad job, I asked. We talked about coordinators all the time.
Speaker 1: We didn't bring up Arthur Smith once for the Titans.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Arthur Smith, great job? What PA call?
Speaker 1: It's funny because that's that's like the perfect call where
Speaker 1: if that did not work, everyone would have killed Arthur Smith. Like,
Speaker 1: but like, how could you have there? And you're trying
Speaker 1: to get Q on third down in the biggest spot,
Speaker 1: butter that you know, Derrick Henry is a baller and
Speaker 1: great call. He's in the zone. But Mike Vrabel isn't
Speaker 1: just one of these typical defensive coaches who hams you,
Speaker 1: who ant cuffs his offensive coordinator. He told Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: at the end of that Patriots game on a key drive.
Speaker 1: Go win the game, call whatever you have to call
Speaker 1: to win the game. He didn't say run the ball,
Speaker 1: do this to the clock. He just said go win
Speaker 1: the game. And I think Arthur Smith is getting a
Speaker 1: lot of his confidence from Derrick Henry, who's the power
Speaker 1: source of that confidence. And Mike Vrabel, he's not putting
Speaker 1: un fourth in a lot Mike Rabel arrow up um.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite tropes also analysis played by play
Speaker 1: tropes of a big game or around a team, that
Speaker 1: team takes on the personality of their head coach. The
Speaker 1: Titans are there, Mike Vrabel, personava. That's the thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you know, so what okay? What so?
Speaker 1: I mean if they're what are what are the Packers?
Speaker 1: They're a flower and they're so what what are the
Speaker 1: forty niners? They're like, they're like a cool who likes
Speaker 1: Little Wayne? I mean, Kyle Stanian's gotta be a little worried.
Speaker 1: He little solid, a little little as us. As their
Speaker 1: friend Andrew Hawkins point out, he named his kid after
Speaker 1: a little Wayne, and little Wayne is a Packers fan.
Speaker 1: That's some problems, some problems at you know, he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of issues little Wayne Um chemical dependency, Like
Speaker 1: what does that mean for Perry Fuel? Like if you
Speaker 1: take on the personality or head coaches, that mean because
Speaker 1: the Panthers got blue blown out like four straight weeks,
Speaker 1: that Perry Fuel is like some type of like I
Speaker 1: think it's typically when things are going to your point,
Speaker 1: I feel like it doesn't need to be said. I
Speaker 1: feel like, if you're a football fan, you're watching your
Speaker 1: team over the course of a year, you feel that
Speaker 1: pointing that out feels a little excessive. I once saw
Speaker 1: the Bengals take on the personality of Dave Schuler when
Speaker 1: the linebacker came over and patted him on the head
Speaker 1: on the sideline. All right, good recap, guys. Oh, the
Speaker 1: a f C Championship NFC Championship schedule is as follows.
Speaker 1: Uh vamp, somebody say something, Well, if you wanted me
Speaker 1: to say it, yeah, that Titans in the Chiefs play
Speaker 1: at three or five eastern. They're up first in the
Speaker 1: NFC Packers in San Francisco six forty eastern. I like
Speaker 1: these matchups. This is nice. I would there's no matchup
Speaker 1: where I would be annoyed. And that's usually well, usually
Speaker 1: the Patriots are involved here so we're totally in the
Speaker 1: clear there. Um, yeah, it's been unlike Julian Edelman, who
Speaker 1: is not in the clear right now. He is Actually
Speaker 1: they did the rest of his life in prison. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing with Edelman getting a misdemeanor for jumping
Speaker 1: on someone's car in Beverly Hills. You know, I did
Speaker 1: the Google Maps just to see where that was, and
Speaker 1: it's where I thought. It's basically like a like a
Speaker 1: popular shopping sort of street in Beverly Hills, like the
Speaker 1: last place that you should be like trying to be
Speaker 1: going out on that. No, it's not even that. It's
Speaker 1: more just like who are you trying to fool that?
Speaker 1: Who are you trying a kid that you're some sort
Speaker 1: of like cool tough guy on the town like doing
Speaker 1: things You're you're out at Beverly Hills near like Earth Cafe. Well,
Speaker 1: what give me a time? Did it occur that it was?
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I like a man walking
Speaker 1: down the avenue at three pm, you know, having come
Speaker 1: from That's what I'm saying. This is a very quiet,
Speaker 1: boring part of like like the richest part anywhere. It's pathetic.
Speaker 1: He may not have been operating at full capacity may
Speaker 1: have been. You know, it was not a rigorous decision
Speaker 1: making process going on in Edelman's head at the time.
Speaker 1: And I have done dumber stuff in my forties, so
Speaker 1: I can't say anything. I was gonna say, Yeah, none
Speaker 1: of us are perfect, but you know, you're a grown
Speaker 1: man thirty three years old jumping on Lamborghinis. The first
Speaker 1: thing I thought when I read there's a there's a
Speaker 1: series of images that came to mind that I'm glad
Speaker 1: I didn't get caught for uncertain little time. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it was I didn't rob a bank or something.
Speaker 1: Is that true? I just hear that in my year.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's definitely the wrong place to be
Speaker 1: jumping on cars because they're going to call the police
Speaker 1: everywhere else that's just Thursday night. But Beverly Hills, they're like,
Speaker 1: someone just jumped in my car. Get this, get this, uh,
Speaker 1: get this Edelman out of here. And it was Amundola
Speaker 1: and Edelman hanging out together last night. Yea and Paul
Speaker 1: Pierce Amundola. That's where like taking out windows with a
Speaker 1: baseball bat, like I think they went out for drinks
Speaker 1: and he tried to be a cool guy and jumped
Speaker 1: on someone's car and he play pay it off. He
Speaker 1: got arrested. We've all done like arrested. Yeah, I jumped
Speaker 1: on cars every day. How do you think I get
Speaker 1: to my car at the end of the night. I
Speaker 1: hopped from hood to hood like it's just what people did.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what everyone That's what I was arrested,
Speaker 1: but that it was college. It was, but that was
Speaker 1: also from you know, bad boys. Also, I've been in trouble.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna say anything about Adaman. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned for the air show where we go through West
Speaker 1: and Gregg's rap sheets arrest by arrest, and we dig
Speaker 1: into the aftermath and what it what it meant in
Speaker 1: terms of the family and the penal system. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a great show coming up. Maybe it'll be
Speaker 1: a segment on our our TV show Friday Afternoon. It
Speaker 1: won't be, but that would be imagine that six o'clock Eastern,
Speaker 1: potentially our last TV show. Who also check out that
Speaker 1: that all important Saturday three a m Eastern h airing,
Speaker 1: which is also sentleman could have watched tonight our time.
Speaker 1: Well if they had a TV and the slammer. True.
Speaker 1: He was in there all right. We'll be back on
Speaker 1: Tuesday's Dan Hands signing off four Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Rick Hollywood, Bryan Bartlett and the whole
Speaker 1: gang behind the glass. Thank you to everybody. Till Tuesday.
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