WEBVTT - Fast-Tracking Your Kids To Financial Success #587

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am that,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing fast tracking your kids to financial success.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Joel, since this is a kid's episode, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we should be having an an a beer,

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<v Speaker 1>a non alcoholic beverage instead of our typical craft beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can all assess me street and have like

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<v Speaker 1>Cookie Monster deliver the message, or at least a butter beer. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>which they never addressed this in the Harry Potter books,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does seem like there's a small trace amount

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<v Speaker 1>of alcohol and butter beer because like the Dobby whatever

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<v Speaker 1>would get drunk on butter beer. I guess it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't affect the kids as much. Maybe it only affected household.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just yeah, our our kids are talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. They're like, well, we can have butter beer,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can't have are whiskey. And then Kate never talking,

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, wait a minute, technically it's not addressed. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there's small amounts of alcohol in butter beer.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about kids and how it is that you can

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<v Speaker 1>give your kids just a massive leg up um I

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<v Speaker 1>feel oftentimes when we're in young adulthood, we say to ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>if only I had known this ten years ago, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, if if only I had been able to

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<v Speaker 1>start my life with this knowledge that I have now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have made some different decisions. And so basically

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<v Speaker 1>that is what we're talking about today, the different lessons

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<v Speaker 1>that you can begin teaching your kids who are still

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<v Speaker 1>at home, but then also specifically some of the accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the specific strategies that you can employ

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<v Speaker 1>with your kids in order to get them investing for

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<v Speaker 1>their future. And we hear that from how the Money

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<v Speaker 1>Listeners a lot they're like, man, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>this information when I was a lot younger. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>some of who are something upon this podcast late thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>early forties or even later in their life, and they're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been transformational. But if I had known this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff when I was early twenties, I would be crushing

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<v Speaker 1>it now, which is true, like the early even more

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<v Speaker 1>transform I would be a beautiful butterfly already instead of

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<v Speaker 1>in the pupa state. Right there's a lot of kids

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that is coming to mind. Right now, We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to incorporate more into the you might even sink

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<v Speaker 1>the Reading Rainbow soundtrack Mitochondria. Do you remember Mitochondria? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the powerhouse of the cell. Would be like some schoolhouse

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<v Speaker 1>for rocks. I mean, there's so many options here, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different things we learned in school. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get rolling, man, I want to mention something We've been

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<v Speaker 1>emailing a little bit with a listener who actually happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be Ukrainian. He and he's also living in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was asking about maybe some sort of financial

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<v Speaker 1>goals that he had, and he kind of casually mentions

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<v Speaker 1>how his savings and financial goals have been on pause

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<v Speaker 1>for the past eight months, and oh, yeah, I wonder why,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because Russia has completely invaded his country. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, he simultaneously. He didn't put that out there

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<v Speaker 1>just for us to like feel bad for him necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just a matter of factually stating that, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I haven't been able to pursue my goals

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<v Speaker 1>like I have been, but I'm really excited for things

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<v Speaker 1>to get about going again. I mean, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share that just because when you hear something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it just gives you just some incredible perspective, right, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems that we have in our lives that

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<v Speaker 1>seem to loom so large in our minds, something causing

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<v Speaker 1>us stress. In reality, they're not all that big. And

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're a listener and you live here in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, I think, I mean, I I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot to be thankful for within my

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<v Speaker 1>own life, not only for you know, me and you

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<v Speaker 1>and the business and our families, but just also for

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<v Speaker 1>our country. Even though we're all aware of what's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on over in Ukraine. When you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>a I guess just like a personal somewhat of a

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<v Speaker 1>personal connection that brings it to life a whole lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, man, that does like and it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think, like, not that our country doesn't have problems

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be worked on, that need to be discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, we're really lucky to live here. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many good things about living in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't My heart goes out to our listener in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that his country is able to restore their

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<v Speaker 1>their freedom, their independence in the near future, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's able to get his you know, goals of financial independence,

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<v Speaker 1>restore it soon too, and our heart goes out to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in Ukraine, like your cause still matters over here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's still something we're thinking about and talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But Matt, let's move on. Let's let's mention the beer

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<v Speaker 1>that we're having on this episode. This is Postmeister october Fest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by odd story. It's which is a brewery actually

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<v Speaker 1>had of Chattanoogat picked this beer up when I was

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<v Speaker 1>there just a couple of weekends ago, did you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually were at this brewery. No, just a

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<v Speaker 1>local beer store there, which which is honestly it's Imbibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's what it's called in in Chattanooga. Fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>beer store. Yeah, great selection. So next time you're in

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<v Speaker 1>Chattanooga one, I'll recommend you some hikes if you email me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll also recommend that you go to Imbibe and

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<v Speaker 1>pick up some beers there. So all right, Matt, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get onto the subject in hand. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>fast tracking your kids to financial success. And for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>as we were fast tracking, right, I started maybe think

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<v Speaker 1>about racing. And I'm not a huge racing fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>Americans have kind of You're always challenging me to foot races, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just take it easy, dude, going for a walk. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer wrestling, but you know, foot races are fun too.

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<v Speaker 1>But Formula one has kind of come back in vogue

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<v Speaker 1>with the success of Netflix's Drive to Survive. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's honestly, it's a really it's a really interesting show.

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<v Speaker 1>I never was in the Formula one and I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't really like watch races or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I watched some of that show at least,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was super interesting. But the interesting thing Matt

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<v Speaker 1>about being a Formula one driver is is that the

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<v Speaker 1>driver with the fastest lap time in trials the day

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<v Speaker 1>before the race, they get the what's known as the

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<v Speaker 1>pole position, Right, they get the top spot in the race.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right there at the finish line, right at

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<v Speaker 1>the front starting point, so as also becomes the finish

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<v Speaker 1>line at some point later on the race. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but the pole position, we know so much about racing.

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<v Speaker 1>The pole position though it's crucial. It is this crucial

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<v Speaker 1>advantage to being able to win the race because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the stats show that if you start first, the person

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<v Speaker 1>first out of the gate. They win more than forty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent of the time, So there's sixteen cars. Makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. But if you're in first place

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, the chances are overwhelmingly you have a

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<v Speaker 1>much higher chance of success. Where you start matters. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to pass anybody, you're just I guess you're

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<v Speaker 1>just out there just driving really fast. You gotta stay

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<v Speaker 1>in front of people, right, that's all you gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>now having to worry about hitting tires with the other guys. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing with Formula one is that they

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<v Speaker 1>got those exposed tires, and I'm always like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>they not just like just launch, just jump onto each

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<v Speaker 1>other until makes it crazy? I mean that like Nascar

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<v Speaker 1>where you can kind of like push into each other

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<v Speaker 1>and bump each other into game finches. Really it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nuts. But anilimeters Joel millimeters. But where you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>right impacts impacts how you finish in a significant way

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<v Speaker 1>in Formula one. But the truth is it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact exact thing with money. And it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>like inheriting a trust fund, that's not what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about here. But if you're a parent, you greatly influence

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<v Speaker 1>whether your kids start out in the personal finance pole position.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about passing on knowledge in this hose, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're also going to talk about the mechanics and the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts that can give your kid a leg up, which

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<v Speaker 1>most of us, if we're honest, didn't have, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't learn about this stuff in school, and in all

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<v Speaker 1>likely your parents didn't teach you about personal finance, so

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of maybe started off behind the eight ball. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you change that for the next generation. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the topic of today's episode, right, Yeah, Yeah, what you

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<v Speaker 1>know at the start has a remarkable impact on where

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to end up at the finish. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a remarkable impact on the quality of life

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna be able to lead. And we think

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a massive advantage gained in life when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got these basic financial literacy principles being taught to

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<v Speaker 1>two kids consistently as they are growing up. And it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be uber fancy or sophisticated, right, Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty simple and straightforward stuff, but it's incredibly foundational

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<v Speaker 1>as kids begin to develop their own ideas of how

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<v Speaker 1>does the world works. But let's say that you've got teenagers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your kid wasn't necessarily hustling at age six selling

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<v Speaker 1>lemonade out in the neighborhood. Let's say didn't develop an

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<v Speaker 1>award winning app at the age of eight. That are

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<v Speaker 1>their kids? Who do that? Okay? I read about those

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<v Speaker 1>kids sometimes, like who are they? That's incredible either, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if their parents are amazing. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably both, and right, the parents and the kids are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty incredible nerds. But he signed play instead losers. But

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<v Speaker 1>even if you have a kid that's older, the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>you still have time to get them pointed in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. Like, honestly, you still have influence. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a grown adult who's out of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>who is you know, there's still your kid though. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we actually talked about this with our friend Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Rebel back in I think his episode five and eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not too late. So that's right. We're gonna discuss

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<v Speaker 1>how to set your kids up for a successful financial

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<v Speaker 1>future in detail during this episode. Yeah, and most holks,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they learned in their thirties or forties,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get started and they're like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I had known that stuff earlier instead of really

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<v Speaker 1>just learning from my bad beats, from the mistakes I

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<v Speaker 1>made and then having to kind of figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>from there. It just seems like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>and not only are you kind of learning along the

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<v Speaker 1>way from the mistakes you've made, but those mistakes actually

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<v Speaker 1>make it harder to make progress, right because let's say

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<v Speaker 1>one of those mistakes is taking on too much student

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<v Speaker 1>loan debt, or one of those mistakes is getting into

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt up to your eyeballs and then realizing,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, wait a second, that's not the route

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<v Speaker 1>I should be taking. It just makes it that much

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<v Speaker 1>harder to get to the place where you want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, the earlier kids start learning about money,

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<v Speaker 1>the more time they have to impleuent that knowledge, the

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<v Speaker 1>more they can avoid having to learn from mistakes, the

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<v Speaker 1>more they can just learn on the front end, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that gives them also time to to enjoy compounding returns, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something we talk about a lot on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How your money working for you is huge. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>a massive impact on your ability to build wealth. Time

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<v Speaker 1>allows them to have more exposure to the market, and

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<v Speaker 1>it allows their money to kind of start doing the

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<v Speaker 1>heavy lifting on their behalf much sooner, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>means that they don't have to do as much heavy

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<v Speaker 1>lifting as most of us did in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>our financial financials on the right path. The earlier they

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<v Speaker 1>get started, it actually means they can be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more relaxed as they as they get up with their money,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not the norm. That's pretty cool that you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually help your kid set them up for for

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of success, but it's definitely not what most

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<v Speaker 1>people experience with their personal finances. Yeah, yeah, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is why this is such an important thing, because your

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<v Speaker 1>kids have time on their side, and you know, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about compounding returns, like not, not only do

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<v Speaker 1>we see this eighth wonder of the world at play

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<v Speaker 1>with our you know, with our kids actual dollars, but

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<v Speaker 1>we also get to see the compounding effects of their

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<v Speaker 1>behavior as well. You know. It's it's just like the

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<v Speaker 1>virtuous cycle of how our money ends up making money

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Healthy habits build upon other healthy habits. I

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<v Speaker 1>think helping your kids establish these tried and true money

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<v Speaker 1>practices are going to serve them for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>You can help them to create this base layer of

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<v Speaker 1>solid habits that they can use to propel their progress

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<v Speaker 1>even more as they get older. It's it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like just again, imagine that snowball, and every single

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<v Speaker 1>time it revolves around it like the first time it revolved,

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<v Speaker 1>it picked up a little bit of snow. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the next time it does an entire rotation, it's picked

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<v Speaker 1>up even more and it continues onward. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all those like we're always teaching our kids these other habits,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy habits right as they're growing up. Rush in your teeth, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like being respectful to your friends, parents, take care

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<v Speaker 1>of your Yeah. I mean I remember having sir and

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<v Speaker 1>ma'am beat into me as a kid, like I had

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to my parents that way. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that like we're always teach her and

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<v Speaker 1>kids to do stuff like that. But for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>money habits get left out of the mix for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part. So most kids, they know how to be polite,

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to be kind, they know how to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of their bodies and how to brush their

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<v Speaker 1>teeth stuff like that, but they don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of their money, and that's a problem. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is that kids are malleable. That's another important

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we have to talk about because they just

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<v Speaker 1>soak up information, so dang well, they're ripe to be

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<v Speaker 1>taught some of these things. And so if we miss

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<v Speaker 1>out on the opportunity to teach them when they're young,

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<v Speaker 1>it only becomes difficult the older they get. Their prefrontal

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<v Speaker 1>cortexes are still being developed, so there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>elasticity going on that's those brains. And interestingly enough, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some recent research that shows that all of our brains

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<v Speaker 1>actually have more plasticity than scientists previously thought. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just came out. Speak for yourself, your brain is

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<v Speaker 1>done developing. Well. I thought this was kind of cool

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<v Speaker 1>that there's some of this research found that people still

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<v Speaker 1>in their sixties and seven, there's more plasticity in their

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<v Speaker 1>brain than they previously thought. They have more ability to

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<v Speaker 1>adapt and learn than was previously assumed. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>kids still have far more ability. They're changing that so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's much easier to teach them money early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on their physiological makeup. They're just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>more susceptible to having these ideas get embedded deeply in there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna stick around, and then they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an impact for years and decades to come. Teaching the

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<v Speaker 1>next generation something as important, something that we use on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, something is necessary as personal finance. Doing

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<v Speaker 1>it regularly and starting at a young age is just

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<v Speaker 1>is massively important. Yeah, something else worth mentioning is, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kids actually can help set you up

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<v Speaker 1>for financial success. You know the reason we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>setting your kids up for financial successes for their own

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<v Speaker 1>well being. We're like, we're doing it for the kids themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously, you know, when when the stakes get raised

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<v Speaker 1>like this, it does like you could see a benefit

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<v Speaker 1>to you personally, but it could come full full circle

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because even though you may have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to plan as well as you thought you could, you

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<v Speaker 1>never know what kind of curveball's life might throw you

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<v Speaker 1>and down the road, maybe when you're in your golden years.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully your kids are in a great position to where

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<v Speaker 1>they might be able to welcome you into their home

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<v Speaker 1>when you are in your later years. Yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and so hopefully you're planning well for your financial future.

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<v Speaker 1>But your kids who are financially savvy can help you

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<v Speaker 1>when you become old and infirm, Matt. Which I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to those days personally, but you're doing it for

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<v Speaker 1>them for you know. I don't know if I told

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<v Speaker 1>you this. Emily and I recently took a marriage test

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the questions that there was one question

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<v Speaker 1>on there that made me smile, and it said are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking forward to growing old with your wife? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, heck, yes, I am, Like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like kind of looking forward to old age. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be fun. Yeah, I think it'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely still looking forward to like next month as

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, I don't want to come to

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<v Speaker 1>come too fast. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be good. And hopefully, hopefully my kids are financially

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<v Speaker 1>savvy and they are able to, yeah, support us, not

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily financial, but to be there for us and

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<v Speaker 1>to be on solid footing themselves. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how we get our kids to that point, Matt. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the most important factors that help fast track

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<v Speaker 1>kids to financial success that we can instill in them

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<v Speaker 1>as parents. Now we'll get through our thoughts on that

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. All right, we are back from the

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<v Speaker 1>break and again we're talking about fast tracking your kids

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<v Speaker 1>to financial success and you know, Joe, like, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of those specific accounts that you can set

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<v Speaker 1>up for your kids, maybe even how much you should

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<v Speaker 1>be investing for their future. We'll get to that in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but first we wanted to touch on some

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<v Speaker 1>aspects that you can begin now like today, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>no income required, you know, in order to get that

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<v Speaker 1>ball rolling, because a lot of a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular when it comes to investing, your kids need

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<v Speaker 1>to have that earned income. Or sometimes you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an eighteen month old, Like, we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about investing yet, since where do I start? And investing

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<v Speaker 1>is a place you gotta get too, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the place you start. Yeah exactly. I mean so, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think when most folks, when most parents, in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>when they think about teaching their kids about money, like

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<v Speaker 1>they might instinctively think of maybe just the formal lessons

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<v Speaker 1>that they can teach, right, or or maybe they're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>like there's some kind of like kids and Money program

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<v Speaker 1>that they can sign up for. But we think that

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior that you're modeling for your kids and the

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<v Speaker 1>example that you're setting that that is even more crucial

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<v Speaker 1>because the reality is that what you do well that

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<v Speaker 1>means more over time than than what you say. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want your kids to not only do as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want them to also do as you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of the things that makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of is the tone that you're setting when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to talking about money. And so, for instance, every time

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about money, well, if it's a fight in

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<v Speaker 1>your house, um, I think what you're doing is you're

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<v Speaker 1>setting the expectation that anytime we talk about money like

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<v Speaker 1>this is how it should be talked about. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's important to not just discuss what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you're talking about, but how it is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going about talking about that, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that your kids might completely push back against that

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna say, well, that's never going to be

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like when I grow up. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, this is the expectation that you're setting, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can be an uphill battle if you

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<v Speaker 1>are setting that kind of negative tone. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>negative vibe anytime you talk about money. Right. So one

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<v Speaker 1>example I think we could give to this Matt, just

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<v Speaker 1>in some other area of parenting is let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy cursing, which is totally fine, Like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with that, but U but let's say, are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about me specifically? Just general example here if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody likes cursing, just love to curse, Yeah, they love it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they hear their kid cursing and like wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, no, no, no, you're not allowed to do

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<v Speaker 1>that like this, I thought I taught you better than this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is your kids are going to imitate what

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<v Speaker 1>you do. And so even if they don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you because they know it's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>them in trouble, they're probably going to use that language

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<v Speaker 1>behind your back with their friends or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the example we set, like how we behave our

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<v Speaker 1>kids are going to imitate that. They're going to respond

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<v Speaker 1>more to what we do than to what we say.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just think that's ultimately, that's that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they learned how to be. In this word, they learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to be based on how we exist. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you got to think about that. Um so, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your example matters a lot. I still remember our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>Matt with Jail Collins back in the day, and he

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<v Speaker 1>basically said he gave more credit to his wife for

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<v Speaker 1>how his daughter turned out, even though he wrote like

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<v Speaker 1>a best selling investment book, right, the Simple Path to

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<v Speaker 1>Wealth that like tens and tens and thousands of people

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<v Speaker 1>have read. I don't know if I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's sold a million copies or not yet, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this massively successful. But but he said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife modeled it day in and day out for

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<v Speaker 1>our daughter. She deserves the credit. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of truth to that that the modeling matters

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<v Speaker 1>more than the words that are said. Although the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>are important to you gotta have those discussions because even

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to have a little bit of both,

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<v Speaker 1>because like let's say, even even if you handle your money,

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<v Speaker 1>impact will be well, that's just not quite enough when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about transmitting that knowledge to our kids, because

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<v Speaker 1>it just it doesn't happen by osmosis, right, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just seep in just because we're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of does, but it also kind of doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you have a million dollars in your four

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<v Speaker 1>o one K because you've been a great investor, but

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<v Speaker 1>you never ever ever talk about it with your kids. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily know that, so you've got to use

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<v Speaker 1>words too, And so we would say it makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>to have more money talks, but to make them actually

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<v Speaker 1>a little more mundane. That might sound a little weird

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<v Speaker 1>to have mundane money talks, but we would say that

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<v Speaker 1>means chatting normally about purchases at the store, about delayed gratification,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're saving up for something, but it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>another six months till you can get it, until you've

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<v Speaker 1>saved up the cash to buy that thing without having

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<v Speaker 1>you go into debt for it, answering questions too, and

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<v Speaker 1>a thoughtful way. Kids have questions about money all the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you say mundane, that doesn't mean boring conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>It just means like talking about them in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a like day to day kind of way, where like

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<v Speaker 1>the emotion is removed from it, sort of like what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying earlier too, Like it's it's a desire

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<v Speaker 1>to teach in the every day in the ordinary, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know not for these conversations every time you have

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<v Speaker 1>them to be just charged and loaded with with emotion

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<v Speaker 1>and monumental. You're not going to teach your kid how

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<v Speaker 1>to invest in like one sit down combo, like birds

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<v Speaker 1>in the B style chat, right, It's gonna take like short,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtful combos over an extended period of time. And and

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<v Speaker 1>like that means including your kids and decisions. Mat I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you. Sometimes I have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>letting my kids do things when I know they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a mess. But but ultimately that's in their best interest, right,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's yeah, learning to scrape their plates and put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the dishwasher, and I'm like, oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just do it myself because I do it better

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<v Speaker 1>than they do. But I think the same thing is

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<v Speaker 1>true when it comes to including them in money decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, it's gonna be quicker, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>more efficient if I handle it myself. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>want your kids to be money savvy, you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to start including them in those money conversations

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, even though it's going to maybe draw

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<v Speaker 1>out the deliberation process. It's gonna make it take a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer. Ultimately, it's going to be in their

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<v Speaker 1>best interest if you kind of start including them in

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<v Speaker 1>those discussions and if you value their input. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, of course all kids are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be different, right, Like you're likely you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a different tact with each one. Uh. Like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have one kid who's a natural saver, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that might make you so proud, like makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel really good that they're able to stock away

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<v Speaker 1>all that money, but they still need to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to spend on things that are important to them. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course they'll need to be taught how to invest

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They maybe they're naturally a saver, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not willing to put that money at risk by investing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are going to talk about investing here in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But it's more than just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that natural proclivity that a kid might have. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the way that kids learn best that can vary as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me think, like, for instance, it is your

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<v Speaker 1>kid more of a visual learner or an auditory one,

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<v Speaker 1>Like can you just have a conversation with them about stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it helpful for them to see things, Because

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, like maybe playing a board game

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<v Speaker 1>like Monopoly, like that might help to generate a great

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<v Speaker 1>money discussion if they're able to see, I don't you know,

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.639
<v Speaker 1>all the properties lined up, but they're they're holding that

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>play money in their hand. And so just keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind because if you're using ineffective methods of teaching

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<v Speaker 1>your kids, it might feel like trying to to put

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<v Speaker 1>a square peg in a round hole. Yeah, for sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the method matters. You're gonna adapt it to each kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna be able to just like take the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same route with with everythingle Let's say you have

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>multiple kids. Some some people choose have one. That's great.

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>But with Matt, we've got three kids. They're all different.

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.639
<v Speaker 1>You've got four, I've got three, and they're all different,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we I have to kind of approach them

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<v Speaker 1>uniquely in those conversations based on their personality and based

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<v Speaker 1>on kind of their bent when it comes to money,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't. You can't. Just like, honestly, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've learned so much from reading this The biophy

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.199
<v Speaker 1>on on Warren Buffett. But like one of his mistakes

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like as a parent is he just assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that his kids were gonna be just like him. And

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<v Speaker 1>as far as their natural tendency to want to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into business and to be a self starter, uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>took them multiple decades to get to that point to

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<v Speaker 1>where they're making uh I think what he would call

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<v Speaker 1>savvy money and business moves. But like, I feel like

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that would be an instance where he just assumed that

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be just like him, and that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. I think a lot of parents assume that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once you especially if you have a few,

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a second. They're all different, and maybe

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they have little bits and pieces of of me and Emily,

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>but they also are completely themselves in some anyways. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really expect them to turn out just like

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<v Speaker 1>me or even anywhere close necessarily. But before kids can

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with their money, Matt, they've got to earn

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<v Speaker 1>some of it, right, And I think that's crucial to

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 1>help your kids form a connection between money that comes

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<v Speaker 1>into their lives and the work that it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. This is just another one of those massively

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<v Speaker 1>important lessons that it takes when it comes to fast

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.959
<v Speaker 1>tracking your kids to financial success, because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>my kids thinking that they get money just because they're alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because they breathe doesn't mean they get money in

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<v Speaker 1>their bank account or that I give them cash straight

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>into their hands when they ask. So yeah, we would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's important to take some steps to help your

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>kids think of creative ways that they can earn money

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<v Speaker 1>for things that they end up wanting. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily help them with like a lemonated stand or

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>bake sale every single weekend or anything like that, Like

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>that's putting too much pressure on yourself and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>need to go that hardcore. But you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it like a quarterly goal or something like that

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>to to help them with ideas that can generate income.

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.640
<v Speaker 1>And so much that depends on their age. Older they get,

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<v Speaker 1>they can probably do this on their own. They don't

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>even need you. Let's say they're eleven, twelve, thirteen. There's

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 1>things that they can do in the neighborhood to make

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.919
<v Speaker 1>money that don't necessarily have to involve you coming up

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>with the idea of participating with them. Uh and and

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 1>so much depends on their intrinsic desires to We've done

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>things like selling hot cocoa, or we've done art sales

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>where the girls like they make their own art and

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 1>then they put it out for sale at the end

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 1>of the driveway, or just selling old toys like right

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and are there are their toys that they've had that

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten for holidays over the years and birthdays that

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they could part with and they'd rather

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 1>have the cash than to have these toys that they

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>don't play with anymore. These are all kind of great

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>ways to teach them how to make money, the value

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<v Speaker 1>of a dollar and stuff like that, But are really

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>so much of it starts with helping them find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to earn money and understand that that is the main

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>way that money comes into your life. Totally. Yeah, I

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>think kind of thinking about these things creatively with your kids,

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's sort of the gift of entrepreneurship. Yeah, Like

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the ability for you to impart upon your kids the

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that they could potentially earn money in all all

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>of these different types of ways. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible lesson that we can help train our kids

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<v Speaker 1>in as well, but on on that note, allowances, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that because I think a lot of folks

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like this, this question always comes up when we start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about helping kids to handle their money effectively. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think allowances can be a good idea.

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, ensuring that your kids have money to to save,

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to spend, invest to give money like that puts the

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>concepts that you're discussing into practice for them. Uh So, yeah,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>get you know, giving your kids a set amount of

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>money each week based on their age, that that can

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>be smart. But it's also important to to create a

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<v Speaker 1>distinction that there are just going to be some chores

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 1>they're they're gonna be some tasks out there that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to help with just because they're part of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>not because uh it's something that they're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>paid for. Uh. And so keep that in mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fine balance to strike when you are um basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're focusing on are the different practices of what

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<v Speaker 1>you can do with money once you haven't in hand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I feel like an allowance focuses on. But

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<v Speaker 1>you still want to keep them receiving that money. Very

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>close to the concept of working for that money. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you use allowances ineffectively, it can have

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<v Speaker 1>a negative impact, right, like making it feel like that

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>money just falls out of thin air. So first tying

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that money to the work that they're doing, and then

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>focusing on those other practices as well, like like you know,

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned, spending, saving, investing, giving. I think it's

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>really important too for parents to set budgets for certain

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>things that they spend money on, and then if their

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>kids want something it's more expensive, say all right, that's

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out of your money. So I mean, my

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>parents did this with me really well, when like buy

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<v Speaker 1>and sneak or something, Remember your sneakers. Yeah, it's like

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like listen, there's a money threshold that they're gonna spend

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.959
<v Speaker 1>if I want the fancier ones, I got to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the table with my birthday, Christmas allowance money whatever

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that is, And so that made me rethink. It helped

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 1>me realize the value of the thing that I wanted.

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And lots of times I took the cheaper item that

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>my parents would fully subsidize, and on occasion I would

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>pony up the extra dough to get the exact item

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that I really wanted so much depending on how much

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>money I had and how valuable that thing actually was.

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But not those Scottie Pippens. The Scotty Pippens I did get,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh you did? I did? That was like the one

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fancy pair of Yeah, and they were awesome, but they're

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>worth it. They were worth that was your craft. I

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>still remember those things that age twelve, but that's while

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>shoes kind of where my my craftier equivalent at that point.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>But those are the kind of discussions I think that

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>are really fruitful is saying, like, listen, we've only got

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>this much money to allocate towards a school book bag

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, and it introduces the idea of scarcity,

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but like the fact that there is only so much

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>money so or at least only so much money that

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.719
<v Speaker 1>we're willing to spend, right, Because that's the other thing

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>as well, is it's not to put this fear that

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to run out of money, like before your

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>kids and some with some families that might definitely be

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the case. But in other cases you probably have plenty

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of money that you could buy an extra pair of

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>shoes or a different jacket or something like that that

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>your kid might, but it's about being honest and saying, well,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>this is how much we're willing to spend beyond that

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>that's on you. And by the way, so we're talking

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>about earning and talking about allowances, let's talk about like

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>especially as kids get older. I think it's important to

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>mention high school jobs here because, uh, we think of

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>those as being a really good thing and that a

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of kids should probably be working at that point

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in time. And the reality, Matt, when you look at

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the numbers, is that fewer kids are actually doing this.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Something close to fewer young folks are working in high

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>school than was the norm decades ago. I think some

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>folks would say, you've got the whole rest of your

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>life to work, why would you want to get started

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>when you're fifteen. Don't don't ruin his childhood, right exactly?

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I get that response, like it

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>makes sense to me, But I would say, I would retort.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I would say, there's there's like a host of skills

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like time management, of working with the team, personal responsibility,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>learning to like look an adult in the eyes, those

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things that a kid is able to learn

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>if they have a real after school job that they

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>might not be able to learn in the same way

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>at least at home. That I would say the most

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>important benefits that you get of working at that age,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>they go just way beyond making money. It's not about

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the five dollars and fifteen cents an hour MATT that

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I made when I was fourteen working at the fast

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>food restaurant across from across from my school. But it's

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>about all those other intangible benefits that served me that

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like I had to learn at an earlier age, and

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they paid massive dividends moving forward when

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I like went into an actual career. Yeah, it's not

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like you set yourself up for success with uh your

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>minimum wave right said job, it's not about them. It's

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>less about the money, right, No, I wasn't that even

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>really investing that money. It's it's barely helping buy like

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the cheapest car possible. It's not one of those things

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>in the car maybe covered your gas is literally an

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred dollar Toyota Corolla or whatever, but it's uh

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>or no, it was a camera. They just were the

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>signs of Corollas back then. But those are the kind

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of things that like, it's it's not about the money,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's about all those other things I learned, showing up

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on time, getting the job done, doing stuff I didn't like,

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like squeezing lemons. I was the worst. All right, Well,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so earning money that is the first step, right, but

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about what you do after that, and hopefully

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that includes saving a good portion of that earned income.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>One great tactic to incentivize your kids savings is by

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.959
<v Speaker 1>paying what we would call an astronomically high interest rate,

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>which is a great way to help them to understand

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that their money, that he can make money, even if

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just sitting around. That is exactly what we did

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>with our oldest daughter. We were sitting down and I

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>was paying her two weekly in order for her to

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>understand that this was something that she could do that

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>would actually move the needle. Because I remember when I

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was a kid going to the bank and Dad, no,

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we we opened us savings account. I don't know what

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>rate that they're they're they were paying, but I was

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>only earning like pennies. And I just remember even at

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the time, thinking, I don't think this is like teaching

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>me the lesson you think, because I had like zero

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>desire to to continue to save more money, but finding

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a way to help those lessons to sink in and

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>then help your kids as well to consider what it

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>is that they're saving for. I think that can be

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>helpful as well. Again with with our oldest, she's a

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>really content child, uh and there's not it doesn't seem

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>like there's a whole that that she wants, and so

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of been surprised at the fact that, uh,

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>we're having to trying to like prod her a little

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>bit and be like, hey, you know, this is something

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you could potentially get, kind of like dangling some of

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>these carrots in front of her in order for her

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to be more ambitious. It's good overall. I think it's

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a good thing that she's content, But when it comes

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to being like an aggressive saver, it's not necessarily stoking

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the fire, you know what I'm saying. But you know,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>all savings eventually become expenses as well, because what is

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>it that you're saving up for it, Well, it's typically

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>spend money. And so I think part of this is

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>helping your kids to consider some of these different spending

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>decisions so that you know they don't end up buying

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>things on a whim that they're going to later regret. Yeah,

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I mentioned a couple of months

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>ago taking my oldest nine year old to to Costco

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and she wanted this like squishy mellow pillow thing, and

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was eighteen dollars, I don't remember, but

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a spur of the moment, and so we

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>said she had zero desire to have that until she

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>saw She had never talked about getting one of these before.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I think she already had one, Like it's conra Nickels, Like,

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>she's got so many stuffed animals, it's hard for me

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to be like, great, yeah, let's spend money on this.

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's her money, so she gets to choose those things.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But we have a forty eight hour role. And so

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, if you really want this, two

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>days from now, I will bring you back here and

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>we will get this squashy mellow and it's all yours, like,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>spend your money on it, but well, let's make thoughtful

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>purchasing decisions. And so two days later she remembered it

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and she wanted it. I was assuming she was going

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to completely forget about it, but no, she was like, no,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it piqued my interest. This is the thing I want

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to spend my money on, and I think it's okay.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Then I took her back when we got it. But sometimes, uh,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>teaching your kids money about how to use money effectively,

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take a little more from you because that

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I had to drive back and and it actually let

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>her get get the eyem that she wanted. But it's

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what it takes though. It takes patience and time,

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think oftentimes we're not willing to give it

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of time, you know, Like that's the like

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about when we were talking about the

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>ability for kids to learn things because their minds are

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>more malleable. I was reading some up on that, and

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes it's because kids are willing to explore, and exploring

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>takes time. And as adults, we I mean, we often

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>times have so many different responsibilities and tasks that we

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>have to get done. We don't explore. We just immediately

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>jumped to conclusions, we make our decision, and essentially we're

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of closing off our mind from the ability to

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>making some of these new connections. It does take just

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time, and you know, Another aspect

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I think as you're teaching your kids about money is

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>just to keep in mind who you surround yourself with,

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like specifically who your kids are friends with, as this

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>will either have a positive or negative impact on their

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>understanding of some of these lessons. So, for instance, it's

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be harder to make that connection between working

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>really hard and earning that money if they're friends are

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>getting everything handed to them on a on a silver platter. Uh.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And so this might not be something that you discuss

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with them directly, but it's just something to keep in

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>mind as it. You know, I think it will tint

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>how they see everything, not just in how they earn money,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>but then also how they spend money, because you know,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Selma might see some of her friends with those and

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, they get those all the time. It's

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of the like the song that's just kind of

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>playing in the background. Um, it's it's it's that's the

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>water that we live in. And oftentimes we're not even

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>aware of their desires or what they think is normal

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>or acceptable exactly. And it is to a certain extent

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have you don't have full control over this.

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't have full control over who they're gonna be

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>friends with and they're going to experience thing is so

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>part of that is how you talk about it when

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they do. Like the other day, I think I mentioned

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>again I don't know if I talk about this on

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the show, but someone's like, I want an Apple Watch

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, what are you? What are you talking about?

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy? Those are really expensive. Um, but we're not

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>an Apple family anymore. Well, and like Emily has this

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>like fake smart watch that cost twenty bucks on Amazon

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, Mom, you've got one, and and I'm like, no,

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've got a fake twenty one that you

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>know that That just tracks a couple of basic things.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>And so having those conversations be like one, well, just

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>because one of your friends has one doesn't mean that

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got it. And to just because even if all

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>your friends had it, that doesn't mean that's what our

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>family does. And you have to have those family values

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and have the ability to have those discussions even when

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>their friends are living life in a different way financially.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>There's a family culture you're trying to establish, and that's

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that's important. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's a lot.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So you said that, like you don't always have control

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>over like who your kids become friends with, and that's

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>totally true, but we do have control over the environments,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like generally speaking, that we in the neighborhood that you

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>live in the neighborhood, and even just like how we

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>approach consumption, right, like if you are always at the

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>at the store, and that's maybe how you know mom

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>or daddy how they like to relieve a little bit

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of stress, you can maybe go to the store, you

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>buy something new. Uh, that all of these things, I mean,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>this goes back to the example that you're setting for

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>your kids. But if you are surrounding them with consumption,

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>well chances are that's going to be something that they

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>tend to revert to. But yeah, you know, like a

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of these lessons can begin at a really young

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>age before they're earning an income, but once they do

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have a job, once your kid does have an earned income,

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they can start investing for their future. And so we're

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about teaching your kids to invest which

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>accounts are best for them, plus thinking about college costs

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. We get to all of that right after this.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's keep going we want our kids to

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 1>be to be money savy. We want our kids be

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>able to handle money well. We want them to be

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>confident in their abilities to use the tool that is

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 1>money to help them throughout life. We want our kids,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>we want every hid of money listener want their kids

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to be confident with money too. And again it's something

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't get taught or it's on us to be

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>able to make sure that they have that ability. But

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about how to invest, because that is one

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of those things like getting your kids started. The earlier

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.479
<v Speaker 1>the better right on the investing front. But this isn't

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>typically something that you're gonna be covering with them when

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they're in grade school. This is maybe like slightly more advanced,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and they also don't typically have the money to get

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>started investing in some of these concepts I've talked about

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>with my fourth grade at this point, because like when

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about investing, and we're gonna talk about plans

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and saving for college in a second, but she when

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>she asked me whether or not I was saving for

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>her college, I was like, yeah, a little bit. I

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>am saving a little bit, and here's how it works,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually I'm actually investing for your college. It

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was a perfect chance to talk to her about investing

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in how it works. But uh, yeah, you're really one

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of the things you're gonna want to focus on, I think.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>But for you get to the mechanics of the accounts

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, is you want to talk about

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe how amazing compounding returns can be. Because to me,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that can hold somebody's imagination because it

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty impressive concept. And the better you can

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>paint that picture, the more it can can help connect

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the dots. I think for your child to understand what

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you're doing when you're investing, and and then also to

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>be able to talk about how you yourself are investing,

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like one of those one of those convos where uh, like,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>how you're directing your dollars and why. But I think

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the older they get, the easier it becomes to cover

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that ground intellectually. But it also gets easier to help

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>them then funnel money into an account, start tracking their progress, uh,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and then helping them get excited about growing that money

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>for their future. That's so true, man. Yes, let's talk

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>about which accounts are best for kids to start investing in.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And this may not come as a surprise to most

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>folks out there, but our favorite, of course is the

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>rath I ra A. This account can help kids start

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>investing super early. But the thing is they have to

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>have an earned income in order to be able to

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>stalk away money into this account. But that doesn't necessarily

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>mean that they've got a legit job at like a

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>fast food restaurant where you know, at the ages eight

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, it's legal. Yeah, maybe they should,

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but mowing lawns, babysitting like that counts as earned income

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>as well. Working as a poolboy like that's like as

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old, that's something. One of the ways

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I got creative working in the neighborhood is taking care

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of people's pools, testing the water. I got really good

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>at making sure that pH man we nailed it. Like

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I added those droplets of die or I don't know

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what was in it, but I made the solution match

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the color, and that told me how many additional chlorine

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>sticks they needed. But you take that earned income, uh,

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you're then able to start putting some of

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that money within a roth Ira account. But the max

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that they can stock away into these accounts is six

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for this year next year, But they're also

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>capped at their earned income level, right, and so let's

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>let's say they only make bucks. Well, that's now they're

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>seeling of what they can contribute to that account. So

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep that in mind as well. But there

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>are many reasons that we love the rath I RA.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>For one, it's it's super flexible. Right if your kid

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to tap some of those funds to say, like

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>buy a house in their twenties, that's something that they

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>can totally do. But it's also the best from a

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>tax perspective. They'll be sheltering decades worth of returns from

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>taxation going this route, while they are most certainly going

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to be at the lowest tax bracket they'll ever be

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in their lives. Yes, in their entire lifetime, it's never

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be better than that, exactly. So yeah, this is

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a perfect time if they have earned income, to get

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>started on that rath. And the cool thing is you

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>can actually help them make that happen, not just by

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like literally taking them to the website, helping them fill

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>out the information and starting that custodial wrath. But one

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>other thing we want parents to consider is if you

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>have the financial ability, and that's not everyone is to

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>make a matching contribution when your kid opts to prioritize

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>their future by sticking money in that rath. Let's say

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>they're like foregoing the now in favor of the future

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>because you have with them about investing. That's great and

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 1>it's worth celebrating. But let's say they do make something

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>like six thousand dollars in a given year, we would

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>say that you should offer, if you can, again to

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>stick three thousand dollars of your own money into their

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>retirement account. If they opt to invest three thousand bucks

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of their own money. And this is a couple of

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>things I think you know. It helps them understand that

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna likely have other matching options in their working career,

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>none of them are going to be as generous as

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the one that you're giving them, but helps them realize, okay, cool,

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>This is actually kind of part of the mechanism of investing.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Employers often contribute sometimes dollar for dollar based on what

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you contribute, and helps get them ready for that. But

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>it also makes it far more likely that they're going

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to be excited to do it. Because who doesn't get

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>excited about free money? And so if you're like, hey,

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you should totally do this, and guess what, not only

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>should you do it, but I'm going to help incentivize

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you to do it. It's going to create some excitement

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>around the process, which is good. That's what you want, Like,

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you want your kid to be to get to be

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>pumped about investing for their future, and it's kind of

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>hard to do that. But free money is one of

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the ways I think that that you can act. Will

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you do that? And then you can kind of track

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the progress together. Download the app on their phone so

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>they can log in, not robin Hood hopefully so they

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>can like day trade, but you know where they can

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>see the progress of their accounts over time. And then

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys can have you know, regular or monthly or

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterly discussions abou kind of what's going on with their

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>account and and how much they're investing and stuff like that. Yeah,

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons matching can be just

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 1>an exciting thing for kids as well as because let's

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>say a kid earns six thousand dollars, Well, they're not

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to put every single dollar into that roth

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Ira like where they've got no spending money. It's like,

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, I made six thousand dollars of this

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>summer and you're like, all right, let you go ahead,

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 1>slide all that money over into that new wrath Ira.

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be really discouraging when it comes to the

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>ability to kind of realize some of those tangible benefits

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>of having worked that job in the here and now.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it makes me think about a craft Bier equivalent, Like,

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to be smart for the long term, but simultaneously,

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to make life enjoyable in the here and

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>now as well, and you want to help your kids

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>know how to do that to strike the balance exactly. Yeah,

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>speaking of helping your kids, you can help them to

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>build a solid credit score as well. That's something that

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we would encourage you to do. Is something to be

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>attentive to. And so you can do this by making

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>sure that your your child is an authorized user on

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>your credit card. That can help you to achieve that.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But only do this if you if you pay off

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that card on time and in full every single month

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>at the end of every building cycle at the very least.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>If not, you could actually be hurting your kids fledgling

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>credit file. But here's the thing. You don't actually give

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>them access to your card, and so by adding them

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>as an authorized user, they get all the benefits of

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>having that credit to their name without any of the

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>headache to you if you were to have a kid

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>with a credit card. But by doing this, the credit brrers.

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>They start to build this file on each kid that

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you that you do this for, and you're building a

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>solid credit history for them before they've even had the

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>ability to even get their own credit card. This is

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a highly underrated, I think tip for a lot of

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>folks out there, and something that could totally give your

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>kids a leg up for sure. Agreed, Yeah, building that

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>credit file now, getting them started in the right direction,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>having an actual to score a decent credit score when

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they graduate high school, that's pretty cool and that's something

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you can do pretty easily. Again, like Matt said, though,

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>as long as you're handling your own credit, well, that's

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the only time you want to do that, because you

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>don't want to set your kid up for with having

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a bad credit score when when they graduate. But on

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 1>the credit no, Matt, it's it's also important that our

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>listeners help their kids protect their credit, and that means

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that you should be freezing their credits. Right. But here's

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the thing, you might not even take this step for yourself,

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and so it's important to do that also. Uh So, yeah,

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>free your own credit, right, we want you to do that.

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>You've actually got an article on our website that will

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>link to that includes the links to the credit bureaus

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in order to get this done. Interestingly enough, it's a

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit different process for minors than it is for

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>fully grown adults, and so the realities it's not going

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to take very long, but this article is gonna help

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>basically hold your hand and help you get your credit frozen,

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 1>get your kidsredit credit frozen, and I don't know, maybe

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>ten or fifteen minutes to freeze everyone in your family's credit.

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And basically what this does is it's just preventing someone

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>from opening up credit in your name or in your

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>kiddo's name. And so we want to make sure that

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>you get this done because not only are you trying

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to help them build a solid credit score for their future,

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure that nobody's gonna be able

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to hijack their credits in order to do like nefarious

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.959
<v Speaker 1>things with it. That's right. Yeah, Okay, let's talk about

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>college for a second. Uh, we've we've done entire episodes

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>on college and specifically how we think it's overrated. I

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>think that was episode fight. We would recommend you go

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>listen to that one if that sounds interesting to you.

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>But the value of a college degree, it certainly can

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>be massive for a lot of folks. Degrees are also

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>not as valuable as they used to be as well,

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and so the key then is to talk with your

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>kids about the value proposition of higher education. Uh, you

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>want to look at the costs. You want to you

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>want to look at what that will get you, Um,

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>what you think that might be able to earn you

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>down the road. You've got to have a degree, of course,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to become like a lawyer or a doctor. Uh, it's

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be helpful for other jobs out there as well,

0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 1>but engineers. Yeah, but it's not completely necessary, right for

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other careers that that your kids might

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>want to embark on. And so the key to making

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>college worth it is by keeping costs low and to

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>help your kids make this important decision. It's important to

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have these conversations over the years. Uh, not just you know,

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>after they've had ten years of percolating thoughts in their

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>head as to, you know, what higher education and what

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>college might look like for them. You don't want them

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to get seventeen years of thinking one thing in their

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>mind and then all of a sudden, a year seventeen,

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, by the way, this is what we're thinking. Yeah,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the acceptance letters. Someone in the mail

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>basically being like nope, to expensive. Note. Don't want it

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a surprise. That's a wrong way to handle it.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But you've got a bunch of years to kind of

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about that and to kind of start helping your

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>child think forward about that process and and think about

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 1>a budget for that as well, so they make a

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>decision that's reasonable for the family finances and reasonable for

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>their future that they're not getting saddled with a bunch

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>of debt, because you want to prevent that as well.

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Like we see the horror stories right and left mat

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of kids being just graduating with ridicu this amount of debt,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>not being able to find a job in the career

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>field that they've chosen, and it's tough sletting right, having

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a loan payment, that's the size of a mortgage payment

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 1>and not having the income to back it up. That's

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what we want your kids to avoid. If you want

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>your kid to be set up for financial success, that

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>might mean going to college, but it definitely means avoiding

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a ton of student debt in the process. And and

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that's why we don't recommend saving for college in a

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>account as a must do for most folks. That's it's

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>an important thing to mention as well, Like it's it's

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>already true that there are easier ways to pay for

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>college than for your own retirement. Right. They don't make

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>scholarships sadly for sixty five year old retirees. If they did,

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that would be awesome, But your child might qualify for

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>scholarships for different ways. They could do work study, like

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they're all sorts of different ways to help pay for

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the costs of college. And so it's more important for

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you to prioritize your own funding your own retirement accounts

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>than it is to fund their college savings account. And

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, we'd rather see most folks spending

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>more money on killer experiences for their children, like stuff

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like art classes and sports and going to sporting events

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>are educational trips. Maybe it's a family trip to Washington,

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>d C. To see all the Smithsonian something like that,

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>like which are all free, by the way, they're all free,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and the plane ticket of the car ride is gonna

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>cost you money, so is the hotel. But that's a

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>really cool kind of thing like that. That to me

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>means more than saving up more in a five account

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to reduce the cost of college when there are so

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>many other ways to help pay for it, and so

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>many other thoughtful UH approaches you can take to reducing

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the cost. And there are certainly like tax advantages to

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>investing with within a five nine, but there are a

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of folks who should avoid them, at least until

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>they're maxing out their own retirement accounts in the first man.

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if if our listeners saw the most

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>recent stats from the Brookings Institution, but they say that

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna cost dollars to raise a kid, and this

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.919
<v Speaker 1>is before college as well. This is a lot of money,

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. Although we do think that you can probably

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>get by UH with less by spending less money up

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>here's the rub. We are often so focused on giving

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>our kids the best stuff, right, like we want them

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to have more than we had. We want them to

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>for their childhood to maybe be better than what we experienced.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's completely understandable, but I think we can take

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that instinct too far and instead of working with them

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to provide some financial literacy in their lives, like a

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>meaningful personal finance education will go so much further than

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>brand new gadgets, right, rather than some new sneakers like

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you like your Scottie's sin Joel's right. But I mean

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the reality is that if your kid is confident about

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>how to handle money, they're gonna be light years ahead

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of their peers um and that confidence then we'll radiate

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I think outwards into other areas of their lives as well.

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like the superpower that will it'll stick with them

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 1>for decades to come, and it's something that you're gonna

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>be able to start instilling in them even now at

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the very early age, like they might like barely even

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>know how to talk or to even listen to what

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. But I promise all of these lessons, the

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>example that you're setting, the tone that you're said within

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>your household anytime you talk about money, all of these aspects,

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>all of these lessons are working to get your kids

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 1>on that fast track to financial success. And it really

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>is an amalgamation of a lot of small things over

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>an extended period of time. Right's. Unfortunately there's no like

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>magic bullet, there's no special potion or anything. But we

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>barely sort of touched on it. But it takes patience,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it takes a willingness from a parent

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to be able to pour into their kids, uh, and

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to find those opportunities to teach them

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in the everyday moments. And often times we just want

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to like, yeah again, just sign them up for sign

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>them up for some some sort of program and for

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>life to be easy for us. Like you said, we

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 1>want to optimize everything, and that often means not having

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>those conversations that are necessary to teach the next generation

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>how to do the right thing for their future and

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>with their money. But let's get back to the beer, Matt.

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>This one was do It in october Fest from Odd Story,

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>which is out of Chatta, New Good, Tennessee. What were

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this beer? It was really tasty, man so

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in october Fest. So that meant that this is a

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 1>mars en So it's just a it's a darker lagger,

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and in particular, if you are new to the craft

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>beer scene, I would totally recommend that you look up

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>either in october Fest or Marzen, because it's going to

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 1>have some of these bready elements that I think you

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>might be drawn to. Oftentimes, when folks are trying to

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>get into craft beer and there they start off with

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<v Speaker 1>like some of these crazy I p a S and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, oh man, it's just way too bitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I I cannot handle that. I'm like, well, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised at all, like an I p A

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<v Speaker 1>that that is an acquired taste. By the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>it even legal to drink in october Fest in November?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. We're doing it anyway. You're allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to breaking the craft your last today? Did you dig

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<v Speaker 1>this one? Yeah? I liked it. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>yeah MALTI. It had like some toasted notes, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a caramel vibe, the nice little dry

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<v Speaker 1>finish and october Fest or not. I like it when

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<v Speaker 1>they come around every year. I don't drink a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them. They're not like a go to style.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually like they're a little bit reserved for me

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<v Speaker 1>in their flavors, but they always fit the season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they do always remind me of the Christmas to all

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<v Speaker 1>dry crackley leaves on the ground exactly. No, it fits

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<v Speaker 1>like I was glad to have this one today. I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about that. They kind of taste the way

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<v Speaker 1>that leaves smell. Yeah, you know, like you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like walking if you're hiking in the woods or walking

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<v Speaker 1>along the sidewalk and there's a bunch of dry leaves

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<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of the sun's kind of beaten

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<v Speaker 1>down on them and you can smell them. Marzin kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reminds me of that. Are you go? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I like it a perfect, perfect weird for today. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's gonna do it for this episode. For

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<v Speaker 1>folks who want the show notes, you can find those

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<v Speaker 1>up on our website at how to money dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, But buddy, that's going to be it until

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<v Speaker 1>next time. Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out.