WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Greg McElroy

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Arizona Cardinals at ESPN broadcaster Dave Pash.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest this week is a guy that I had

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<v Speaker 1>the pleasure of working with for four seasons on college

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<v Speaker 1>football at ESPN who's continuing to climb the ladder and

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the faces and voices of college football,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on ESPN but nationally with all that he does,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's calling games, college football, Live Sports Center, He's

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<v Speaker 1>got his own podcast. He does a radio show in Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg McElroy, Greg, still a young guy at his mid thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>excellent player in college won a national championship as the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback at Alabama. In fact, it was the first championship

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<v Speaker 1>that Nick Saban won as the head coach at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Went on to play in the NFL for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>including for the New York Jets against the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that during the podcast. We'll also talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the big storylines in college football this

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<v Speaker 1>year and what could be not just the biggest story

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<v Speaker 1>in the sport, but the biggest story in sports period,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's Colorado football. And Dion Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's really fun, it's really exciting. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>great story. But if some of the flaws that were

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<v Speaker 2>exposed a little bit last week get exposed even more,

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<v Speaker 2>then it could come crashing down pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg will also talk about what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>play for Nick Saban and Alabama, and we'll relive that

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<v Speaker 1>memorable twenty twelve Cardinals Jets defensive showdown at MetLife Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>with Greg McElroy coming up on the podcast. We are

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<v Speaker 1>one eight hundred. Next step all right, Time to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up with First of all, a great guy, great friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, also terrific broadcaster who for the next three

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<v Speaker 1>to four decades is going to be on your TV

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<v Speaker 1>screen as probably the most authoritative face and voice on

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<v Speaker 1>college football in the country. And that's great Mackelrod.

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<v Speaker 3>Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure over the course of the next thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so, I'm gonna be busting your chops, So let

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<v Speaker 1>me at least start with some praise. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 1>for you, man, your fast rise at ESPN. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I was the training wheels for you, working with you

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<v Speaker 1>for four plus years to get you to this point

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<v Speaker 1>where you're now working with the great Sean McDonough on

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<v Speaker 1>the number two team on college football. You sound fantastic, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>How how's it been through a couple games?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I love that you're softening me up right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fattening me up for the kill. I know what's

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<v Speaker 2>coming now. I am appreciative and I will always appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>We ate our friendship first and foremost, but I'll appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>all the positive and quality lessons I learned from you

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<v Speaker 2>on how to be a pro. Us are real pro,

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<v Speaker 2>as Bill Raftery would say, a real pro's it's good man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I appreciate very much our friendship, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad that we could do this together and hopefully we

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<v Speaker 2>get to reference the incredible game that was the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twelve Cardinals Jets game. So I know we'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get there at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's coming, that's coming. That's on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, let's talk college football, because it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw. I know you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings as I did, and I still am surprised

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I know. Dion's a big story in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado's a big story, dude, It's the biggest story in

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<v Speaker 1>sports right now. They had almost a ten a ten

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<v Speaker 1>million people watching that broadcast that went until two in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, past two in the morning on the East Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there thinking, all right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this game will go final, It'll be one thirty. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to bed and I'll make my expand polite, no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get three hours or so and be fine. Then

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough, over ninety eight our drive overtime, second overtime,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh boy, there goes the sleep cycle. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's amazing, man, And I think, what's funny about it, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you know you and I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it or whatever. It's it's like bigger than college football.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a pop culture phenomenon in some ways.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, whether it's the celebrities on the field, the

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<v Speaker 2>celebrities that are leading the team out of the tunnel,

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrities that are doing postgame performances in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage that it's getting from from sixty Minutes, the

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<v Speaker 2>coverage that it's getting on all the platforms that cover

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<v Speaker 2>college football traditionally, like the you know, big noon kickoff

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox or College Game Day or whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a story that has just transcended to sport, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think because people are just so fascinated by it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody in their right mind could have anticipated

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<v Speaker 2>the performances that they've put together up to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure it'll ever really be replicated. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've got Oregon this week, and then they got

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<v Speaker 1>usc next week. This week's games on ABC, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Fox has that game next week which is a noon

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<v Speaker 1>kick eastern ten am in Boulder. Do you think all

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<v Speaker 1>of what you just said is sustainable once reality sets

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<v Speaker 1>and when I say reality, like they may still win

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<v Speaker 1>nine games, they might still win ten games, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like winning the next two that's asking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they were to lose the next two or

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<v Speaker 1>even if they split, do you still think the phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>is there in mid October talking about Dion and Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>then like we are now if.

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<v Speaker 2>They split, we are. If they go zero and two

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<v Speaker 2>and lose close, we are. If they get blown out

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<v Speaker 2>or not, probably, I mean, it's still going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a captivating conversation. It's still going to be something that

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<v Speaker 2>will you know, we'll definitely talk about it naturally. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they are moving the needle, and I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll still even given what he inherited and the team

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<v Speaker 2>that he stepped into. I mean if they go to Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>if they go to a Bowl game by winning six games,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's far beyond what any of us could

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<v Speaker 2>have anticipated from them in year number one. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's and that's I think obviously well within reach

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<v Speaker 2>with games that they have against Arizona State and Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>and some other really really winnable games on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if it's quite gonna capture the

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<v Speaker 2>nation's attention the way it has if they lose big,

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<v Speaker 2>Because right now it's really fun, it's really exciting, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great story. But if some of the flaws that

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<v Speaker 2>were exposed a little bit last week getting exposed even more,

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<v Speaker 2>then it could come crashing down pretty quickly. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's one of those hey play the hot hand,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know how sustainable it really is based

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<v Speaker 2>on what I've seen up at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Through three weeks. Who would you say is the best team?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Georgia second half looked like Georgia last week.

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<v Speaker 1>First half not so much. Obviously, you're Alma mater. Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>not great the loss of Texas. Texas struggled with Wyoming

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<v Speaker 1>last week, ends up winning, Florida State struggles with BC

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<v Speaker 1>ends up winning. Who do you think is the best

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<v Speaker 1>team right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, george is the best team. They have the highest ceiling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was on display in the second

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<v Speaker 2>half of last week. I mean, they looked really really

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<v Speaker 2>good against the South Kily team I think is actually

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<v Speaker 2>kind of found themselves a little bit in their quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>spensive rattler. I mean he's becoming a legit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>NFL prospect with how he's playing. So I think George

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<v Speaker 2>is the best team. But really at number two, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's wide open. I'm not going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>the team that I at least want to play right

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<v Speaker 2>now is Washington. I mean, Washington to me is like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had to rank them right now, Dave like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have Washington too. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, well, that's that's absurd. They're not They're not

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<v Speaker 2>a traditional blue blood. How can you do that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>have you watched Michigan? I mean, because Michigan doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>great frankly through three weeks. Ohio State up until last week,

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<v Speaker 2>really hasn't looked great through three weeks. Last week, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>while I love Texas and think they're really good this year,

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<v Speaker 2>they were at tied ten to ten going into the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter against Wyoming. I think about other teams that

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<v Speaker 2>would be maybe garnering some of that attention at the

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<v Speaker 2>number two or three spot. Florida State looked a little

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<v Speaker 2>sloppy in the second half against Boston College. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think right now Washington's the team that's

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<v Speaker 2>really clicking on all cylinders, and they did so on

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<v Speaker 2>the road against the powerful opponent of the Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think SC is really capable as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>SC hasn't done it against anybody yet. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking resume and you're taking eye test and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>combine the two, the team that I think is playing

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<v Speaker 2>better with a better resume is Washington. Who would I

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<v Speaker 2>think be attur near the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michael Pennix clearly is one of the most improved

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<v Speaker 1>players the last few years. You and I did one

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<v Speaker 1>of his games back in the COVID year and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely did an Indiana game. I still know if he

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<v Speaker 2>was there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you made me go up there to East Lanting

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<v Speaker 2>and we did that game and it was like there

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<v Speaker 2>was no one in the crowd and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with you. So I try to forget it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's yeah, maybe he wasn't. Maybe he did play

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<v Speaker 2>that game. I really don't remember. I think he probably did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then I had him the next year twice

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<v Speaker 1>against Cincinnati and against Ohio State. He was not good

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<v Speaker 1>in either game. What's happened, because now it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Caleb Williams and Drake May we already knew that

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<v Speaker 1>they were major NFL prospects, but now you've got Riley

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard from Duke in the conversation, bo Nix and his improvement,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Michael Pennox. It's it's starting to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there could be five to six quarterbacks in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is Pennock's legit in your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? He is. He is the real deal. And now

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<v Speaker 2>he has an excellent supporting cast. So he gets taken

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<v Speaker 2>into account that his wide receivers and he's got three

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<v Speaker 2>of them that are ridiculous. But man, he's making throws

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<v Speaker 2>that are next level. I mean off platform stuff, moving, sliding,

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<v Speaker 2>still being accurate. You know, he's a lefty, which you

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<v Speaker 2>know some you know sometimes that's just for writing in

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback and always just it's hard to value. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that I have anything against lest handed quarterbacks at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, for whatever reason, it's watching left handed quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>It always looks unnatural to a right handed guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, he doesn't to me look unnatural at all,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's he's excellent. I mean really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, like if I had to choose an NFL

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<v Speaker 2>player between Bonix or him, I'd probably take Michael Pennix.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know bo Nix has garnered a lot of attention,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've still seen no sporadic inconsistencies with him, uh

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I still think he can run a

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<v Speaker 2>little hot from time to time. And bo Nick seems

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, and Michael Pennock seems to a

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<v Speaker 2>little be a little bit more predictable with what you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get week to week. So it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a really good quarterback lass And

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have necessarily said that two years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>just because some of the young guys have had some

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<v Speaker 2>trials and tribulations, But it's really come full circle now

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it goes to show too, man, we

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<v Speaker 2>draw conclusions on guys way too early as far as

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<v Speaker 2>they're to be a prospect, you know, I mean, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>takes guys a couple of years, and sometimes it takes

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<v Speaker 2>them a little while to kind of find themselves. And

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<v Speaker 2>just because you start slowly, or you start inaccurately, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you look a little out of control or a

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<v Speaker 2>little uncomfortable doesn't mean he won't fight it at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>like people always forget, like Joe Burrow became highes sted

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<v Speaker 2>player in the NFL and was terrible in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Relatively speaking, I don't necessarily mean he you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he went for being a seventh round pick to

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<v Speaker 2>the first overall pick in one year. So that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>remarkable thing to do. So I think guys can improve

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<v Speaker 2>and guys can get better, and that wouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if someone else potentially joins the mix as the season

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<v Speaker 2>goes along as well. There's a lot of really good

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback play going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the years we were together, we did

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<v Speaker 1>at least a couple Joe Burrow games and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>two of games two, and now is starting to play

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like I think you thought, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were, I mean, among others, really high

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<v Speaker 1>on him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's well to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember this, Greg, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>to me when we did those LSU games that even

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<v Speaker 1>at Oorsron and his coaching staff, they weren't one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent sold that Joe Burrow was elite. And then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>clearly he's proven that he is well.

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<v Speaker 2>When you watch him throw in shorts, it's like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>this is him, Like are you sure? Are you positive

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<v Speaker 2>that guy doesn't go into the locker room and like

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<v Speaker 2>someone takes his place and it's a different dude. Like

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<v Speaker 2>because you watch him throwing shorts, it's like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, that's not bad. And then the game starts

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like unconscious, and all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and the spiral gets tighter and the arm gets

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<v Speaker 2>stronger and the accuracy gets better. It's like it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually did a Drake May game this year

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<v Speaker 2>Week one, Spencer Rattler against Drake May South Carolina North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually had kind of the same takeaway from

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<v Speaker 2>him as I did with Joe Burrow, Like you watch

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<v Speaker 2>him throwing shorts and you're not really prest then you

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<v Speaker 2>watch him in the game and you're like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's just a gamer. So I do think

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<v Speaker 2>there's that sometimes that guy that can just flip the

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<v Speaker 2>switch from practice to the game, And clearly Burrow has that,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least he had that prior to the contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, we're only a couple of weeks in,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, just skidding, of course he's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think some of some guys are just gamers

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<v Speaker 2>and then when the real bullets start flying, they just

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<v Speaker 2>get way better. And that's I think what what happens

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit with Burrow. I think that's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen with May and I think in some ways

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's going to happen with maybe another guy that

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<v Speaker 2>that we kind of evaluate and maybe comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>forefront here in the next couple months as we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to the evaluation process.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I did you know Kyler Murray games in college?

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously Kyler's hurt and we don't know when he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play. But you know, what were your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on Kyler coming out? You know, what have you witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>so far? Because I know you watch a lot of NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I keep telling people that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he he wants to prove to people that he's

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<v Speaker 1>worth the money. Others have said, well, he got the contract,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. You know, He's got the contract and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I think the injury, this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>adversity he's ever faced in his life. He's not used

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<v Speaker 1>to adversity. He faced it a little bit so far

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<v Speaker 1>as a player, but this is different coming off a

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<v Speaker 1>major injury. He's never dealt with that before, and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's got people talking about study, habits and contract and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. What's your take on that in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how he attacks this next stage of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, I would push back maybe a hair. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think he experienced some adversity at Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where he started his college career, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thrown in there as a starter, and they

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple guys at that point, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of trying to side. Was it going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Allen or was it going to be Tyler Murray?

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe there was another guy like Nick Starkole

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<v Speaker 2>is in there. I don't even remember who the third

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the mix was. Tyler got a start, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play very well, and then got benched, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>was some adversity, and I don't know how he handled that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was great, But you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was a young player as a true freshman, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the way it goes. He went goes to Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a couple of years to sit behind Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously had a ridiculous here in twenty eighteen and

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<v Speaker 2>parlayed it into being the first overall pick. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>handled it and bounced back from it before. Obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>way he plays, and just kind of the athleticism. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the knee is an issue. I mean, will he trust it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a mental hurle that you have to get over

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<v Speaker 2>as a player is significant, especially when you're a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's as twitchy as he is and as quick and

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<v Speaker 2>as agile and as lateral as he is. So I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that's the problem. But I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the study habits are a little concerning. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I mean, the guy makes plays. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think he's probably a difficult one to coach, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because his best attributes are when he's off schedule, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And as a coach, you're like, man, I call a

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<v Speaker 2>play to have it designed to go to this particular

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<v Speaker 2>player against this particular matchup, against this particular look, and

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler's not there, but he's running around like crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>he makes a play. So I think he's a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>guy to coach a little bit, but it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. It's just you have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for the unpredictable. And maybe that wasn't exactly what Cliff wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully with this new staff and with the new

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<v Speaker 2>regime coming from Philly, maybe they're a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>used to that because Jalen Hurts will improvised too, and

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<v Speaker 2>they clearly had no issues with his improvisation and allowed

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<v Speaker 2>them to kind of use some of that athletic ability,

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<v Speaker 2>use some of that, use some of that I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you could call it improv as a skills, but can

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<v Speaker 2>still kind of hone in the plan to where he

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<v Speaker 2>can stay a little bit more predictable with how he

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<v Speaker 2>attacks it. So I'm cautiously optimistic, especially you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>the staff that was brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a little bit about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the rookies. The Cardinals are playing a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>rookies right now. Paris Johnson is starting on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you did a game or two of his

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<v Speaker 1>at Ohio State. Key Troll Clark is starting at corner,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth round pick out of Louisville. We're just starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see bj ol Jalai who I know you did his

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<v Speaker 1>games at LSU Because of injury, he didn't really get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reps in camp. And then Clayton Tune

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<v Speaker 1>is the backup Joshu with Dobbs has played well enough

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<v Speaker 1>to keep starting at quarterback, but Clayton Tune fifth round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of starts, a lot of experience. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you had one of his games. Tell me first your

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on Tuon, Well, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I had Tune in the American Championship in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>he played against Cincinnati. He's very accurate. I knew his brother, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Tune, who was pretty close to my age, went

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<v Speaker 2>to a small school in the state of Texas, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had thrown together quite a bit. So I actually

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<v Speaker 2>kind of followed Clayton's career since gosh he was a

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<v Speaker 2>young pup, just because I had a relationship with his

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<v Speaker 2>older brother. I really, I mean, I really think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a good player. And now he doesn't have crazy mobility,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has enough. He doesn't have a huge arm,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has enough. I think he's pretty accurate, and

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<v Speaker 2>when he stays on schedule and his feet are set

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<v Speaker 2>like I think he'd be a pretty good player. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a solid backup. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he'll ever be a guy the guy, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do think his ceiling's a little limited, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>think a solid backup. I mean, not that dissimilar. He's

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<v Speaker 2>very similar. Actually in some way it's the Cole McCoy

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously a little younger, a little less expensive, but

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways, you know, a little similar as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the skill set's considered, real accurate understands what his

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<v Speaker 2>strengths are, what his weaknesses are, a good competitor, and

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<v Speaker 2>in that Cincinnati game, I mean, he had Cincinnati feeling

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<v Speaker 2>pretty uncomfortable, and so he threw a pick there at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the second half and that kind of

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 2>broke the game open. But at that point, Cincinnati was

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<v Speaker 2>playing for a playoff spot, and Tune had him had

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<v Speaker 2>him on the ropes a little bit with how he

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<v Speaker 2>played early in that game. So I really like his game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got a good chance to develop into

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a mainstay in the league. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he'll ever be a high end starter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a spot starter that could that could

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<v Speaker 2>bail you out from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Paris Johnson's looked really good so far. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody there's a consensus there. He's he was a

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<v Speaker 1>great pick. He's going to be a great player for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Bj ojala I mentioned we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>as much of him. You've probably seen more than anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>just doing a lot of LSU games the last few years. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think his ceiling is in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, no one's seen more LSU games. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we had him six times last year and I

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<v Speaker 2>became a huge fan of bj oj l last year

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<v Speaker 2>against Auburn and they were down, I mean like seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>to nothing. I mean they were getting smoked, and bj

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<v Speaker 2>Ojalari single handedly took over the game. I mean I'm

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 2>talking take over the game, like stripsack to the house

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<v Speaker 2>and then made a couple more plays that led to

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<v Speaker 2>turnovers later in the game, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>Lsu comes climbing all the way back on the road

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<v Speaker 2>at Auburn to ultimately win the game. So a huge

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<v Speaker 2>fan of him. I don't think he has a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>high feeling because I don't think he's crazy twitchy but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be a rock solid pro

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<v Speaker 2>for eight to ten years. And I'm a I mean,

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 2>he's just he's he's more productive than he is flashy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know sometimes and look, let's just let's just

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>call call it what it is right now. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're if you're an edge defender and you don't have ten, twelve,

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 2>fifteen sacks, you're not a good player in the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of many, but you can impact the game a lot

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<v Speaker 2>even if you don't get those numbers. He's pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>against the run, I think, or at least in college

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>he was. Haven't seen him as much in the league naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's just a really really solid player,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not a crazy high ceiling, but he's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you eight to ten good years where he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a steady presence there and you can

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<v Speaker 2>slade him inside too in some obvious third down rush

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 2>situations if you want to, and he can probably give

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit inside as well. So I really

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<v Speaker 2>like him. I think he's a good player. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>some good length and obviously comes from a conference you've

0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>got to bring it every week too, and it plays

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<v Speaker 2>the right way. I mean really does play the right way,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think he's a good pick too. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you root for the Cardinals because of

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship, so I know that you have a stake

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<v Speaker 1>in what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Here more for Wolf than well.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, first of all, because I've been messing

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:51.199
<v Speaker 1>with Wolf like he is nationally renowned because of you

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and Sean and Mike Muscaro, who's part of the production team,

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<v Speaker 1>getting Wolf to voice the teas and then making Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to the Affleck trivia question. And I appreciated

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you putting up the picture of Wolf at age eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Yeah he did. He did look very similar,

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<v Speaker 2>just as crazy and I swear in that little tease

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<v Speaker 2>that we ran with the backyard brawlby and obviously a

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>proud West Virginia mountaineer. He wrote the poem and everything

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 2>for it, which was terrific. I mean, he's actually very talented.

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty impressive, the poem that he wrote. But

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, surely his voice was not that garkly like

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I've heard him talk before, like that was that had

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to have been like post production special effects. I don't

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>care what anybody said, Like I know, he's nuts. And

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 2>I've listened to you guys on the radio forever, but

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, there's no way he's that garglely,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 2>is he?

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:45.239
<v Speaker 3>He is?

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>When he's locked in like that too, and he's reading,

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it's different. It's different than when he's just calling a game.

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's reading a script and he's locked in

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's reading his own poetry. Yet it does sound

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good. I was well, I to hope that someone

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 2>has made some money in post production, but maybe not.

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like that was the real deal.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>He's looking he's looking for money too, by the way,

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you anything you can throw his way would

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 1>be appreciated.

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Nob kidding.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have that. Maybe Sean can help him out.

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't have that, So maybe you can take care

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 2>of him. Maybe maybe you guys, you guys and all

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>your all your commas and your bank if I got that.

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>So the team the Cardinals are playing this week. You

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>obviously have a connection to the Cowboys, your dad being

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a former executive with the Cowboys. I'm curious, first of all,

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what it was like to grow up as part of

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>your childhood being associated with the Cowboys and also being

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a Cowboys fan as a guy that played high school

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback very successfully in the state of Texas.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Well. I mean, I my dad worked in pro sports forever,

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 2>so I was a Cowboy fan though before he got

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 2>to the Cowboys. So when he got to the Cowboys,

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Dad had jobs that I really cared about. When he

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 2>took the job of the Dodgers, where I remain a

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 2>diehard Dodger fan, and then when he took the job

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>with the Cowboys, and you kind of as a kid

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>that grows up in sports, like you root for the paycheck.

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>So wherever Dad is, I'm rootten for you, and I'm

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>rooting hard. So whether it's the La Kings, the Dallas Stars,

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the Texas Rangers, the you know, back to the Dodgers,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 2>to the Cowboys, the Arizona Standing like I'm rooting for

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the I'm rooting for the paycheck. So but when he

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>had the job of the Cowboys, like I was a

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>real genuine Cowboys fan being a kid in Dallas before

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>he got that gig. So it was like a dream

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 2>come true for me, you know, having grown up watching

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Aikman and Emmett and Michael Irvin, and Dion

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I mean, gosh, all the greats there

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties, So it was really pretty amazing when

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>he got that gig. And then when he got there,

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>they stunk. You know. Of course, you get the job

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>during the Chan Gaily era and then you know, you

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.439
<v Speaker 2>get a piece of it during Parcels and way Phillips

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 2>where they ended up having some good years, but for

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>most of that tenure as a Cowboy executive, they were

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 2>god awful. So it was really hard to pull for

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys when it was so natural as a kid

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 2>because they were always winning. Well. When Dad got the job,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>he was the bad luck charm and I think in

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>his tenure they won one playoff game in the ten

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to twelve years that he was there, So it was

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a less than ideal time to really be all the

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>way in on the Cowboys. We just missed the run

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 2>as a young kid, and I you know, we didn't

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot to show for it. But it

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.959
<v Speaker 2>was cool. And the weird thing is when I got

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 2>drafted to the Jets and my dad was still with

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys, it was like, like I can't I can't

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>root for the Cowboys anymore, Like I mean no way.

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean that ain't happened. And my first NFL game

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 2>was actually against the Cowboys on nine to eleven and

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eleven, so it was a ten year anniversary

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 2>nine eleven. It was either Sunday night or Monday night football,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. It was definitely a night game. I

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>don't remember if it was a Sunday or Monday. And

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Romo threw a couple picks and one bad pick at

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the end of the game where they were on the

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>same page as des Bryant and Reeve caught it off.

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Reeves picked it off and took it back, and Nick Folk,

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>former Cowboy, drained it for the game winner. And I've never, ever,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>not one time in my life, cheered a Romo interception

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>until that night. So it was very uncomfortable being there

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>on the sideline in the Jets' uniform and like cheering

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>against the team that I grew up gretting for and

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the players that I was obsessed with as

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a kid.

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way, back to your dad, the great Greg

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>McElroy Senior, for a second, has he forgiven you for

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>taking that bottle of wine out of his collector's stash

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>that fridge that he has in his house when you

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and I did that Texas A and M Spring game.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, seriously, the nerve that you have to go

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in there on your own without permission and just take

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a nice bottle of silver oak.

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's really funny because my dad is convinced that

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>he has this really nice wine collection. Dad has never

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 2>had a glass of wine it in life. I mean,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not exaggerating that has never once had a glass

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>of wine. Dad drinks beer. That's what Dad drinks in vodka,

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>So like, you know what, Dad, you know what you're

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>getting beer and vodka, pretty simple. But he's literally never

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>had wine. I did. However, when I was going through

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the NFL process, I was like, you know, and the

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>draft process. This is during the lockout. So this is

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eleven. I was still living at home, and

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I went through a little bit of a wine face,

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>albeit short lived, but a bit of a wine face.

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>So I stalked up on all these bottles and nice bottles,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 2>and I just got dratched by the Jets and to

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 2>buy some nice wine and you know, I'm gonna have it,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just left it in my dad's fridge, and sure, enough.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>You go in Dad's fridge and he's got like probably

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen, twenty bottles of wine that are all like

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight vintage, you know, silver, oak, camus,

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the usual suspects, cake bread, you name it.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But they're all like two thousand and eight, two thousand

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and nine. And Dad's convinced that he's been collecting those

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 2>for years, but they're actually mine, and he doesn't remember that.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>He forgets that I lived at home during the lockout,

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and he forgets that I went through a wine phase.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And he somehow seems to not be able to get

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the dots based on the fact that all the wine

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>bottles that are in there are eighth nine. So I'm

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>not sure what he's thinking, but you're the one that

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to break that bottle open, and you drank the

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>whole thing, and it was really unprofessional. And we had

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a really high level telecast the next day, and you

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>had a whole bottle of wine before we went to

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>bed the night before. It was really unprofessional of you.

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>First of all, that's not true, but I will say

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he did offer to pick whatever was in there, and

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>then when I found out that it was yours. I

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>made sure to pick the most expensive one.

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, of course you did well. Dad still thinks

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that like we owe him money for that. But I'm

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>not payned because I'm not payned for the same thing twice.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I've paid for it once. I'm certainly not going to

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>pay for it again.

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>All Right, you've mentioned the Jets a couple of times.

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I got to get there, but I want to start

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>with Alabama because you were the quarterback on Nick Saban,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>who is a first ballot Hall of Famer, perhaps the

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>greatest college football coach.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Of all time.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>You were the quarterback on his first national championship team.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>What was it like to be a part of a

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>program shifting, sport changing title season? And then you know,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>we did some Alabama You've done him obviously without me,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>but Alabama games after that kind of watching interaction with

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>coach Saban is interesting. What was it like to play

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>for him as well? So loaded question, take your time,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'm curious.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm both.

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we'll just cancel whatever you have left on

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. We'll just go down.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Then we have to save time for twenty twelve and

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and and what happened on that faithful days.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I definitely want to carve out some time for that.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's a lock. Well, starting with the first question

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>that you asked, what was it like navigating through a

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 2>season that was, you know, program defining sport, finding you know,

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>seismic shift in the college football landscape. And the way

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd answer that is very simply not trying to dodge

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the question. But I mean we didn't know, you know,

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, we didn't know it was going to

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>be a you know, tectonic shift of the powers that

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 2>be because when we were you know, twenty one twenty two,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to win, but for each other, you know,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>we didn't really think about the bigger picture. I'm glad

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 2>that we didn't, because we probably would have felt a

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>whole lot more pressure. But we just heay, let's just

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>go win this thing, man, like no one thinks we can. Like,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>let's just go get it done. And we did, and

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>we had a good team, and I don't think any

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>of us really realized what we were doing at the time.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>And as I've gotten older and seen the program with

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>great teams come up short, it's only gotten a little

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>bit sweeter. That's one thing I've noticed is that it's

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>really hard to win championships, and for us to have

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>won it with that roster and with that team and

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the way we wanted against the teams we beat, it

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>was pretty dang special to be part of. But it's

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>not on the day that I really thought about At

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the moment. It was just, Hey, we're gonna try to

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>win each game and let's take it one at a time.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's just see what happens. And when the winds started

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>mounting up, it got a little bit more pressure packs,

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>but really never to the point where you know, we

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>were worried about losing anything. I mean, it was like,

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>we had nothing to lose, Let's go throw or out

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>in the ring and see what happens. And that's kind

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 2>of the way it went down.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So so, even with early even with started interrupt but

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>even with like Julio Jones and mark Ingram and Trent

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Richardson and first round picks on the defense, you guys

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>did not think in the middle of the season or

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>early in the season that you guys were a championship team.

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, we thought we got a chance to be really good,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>but we never talked about championships like we talked about, Hey,

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>let's just win the one in front of us. Like

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>there were guys on that team that were first round

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>picks that we didn't know were first round picks. Like

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember when Kareem Jackson went out after two thousand

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and nine championship came and all of us were like,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>why is he going out? Like that's absurd, Like he

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>might get drafted, you know, there's no way, you know,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>And sure enough he's like the twentieth overall pick and

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>it's still playing. The guys had like at safety, a

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year career, you know, one of the most accomplished

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>players that was on that team. Like we knew ROLANDA.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>McClain was a first round pick, Like we knew that,

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>but we didn't, you know, we were we I mean,

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we were pretty naive at that point. Like it really

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't so much like now so much of it's like

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>NFL driven, NFL driven, like this guy's for this guy's

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>for trimp pick. Like it really wasn't like that back then.

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>There was more like, oh, well, he's good, he can

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>help us. Like our center was five ten to eighty,

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that's a Alabama like, you know, clearly

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>not an NFL prospect, but a really good college player.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Our you know, our right tackle was you know, never

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>sniffed the NFL and not even got to a training camp.

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Our two tight ends never even got the training camp.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Our back up running back not Trent Richardson, but the

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>backup was actually got named Roy up Church, never got

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the training camp. Our number two wide receiver never got

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 2>the training camp. Our number three wide receiver never got

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the training camp. And we're talking like these are like

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>impact players on the team. So yeah, our left tackle

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 2>was a first round pick, James Carpenter. Our left guard

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was a third round pick. Mike Johnson I was a

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>seventh round pick. Our running backs obviously Trent and Mark

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>both first round picks. Julio first round pick, but was

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>young at that point and frankly, during the championship season

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 2>was never really at one hundred percent and the numbers

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>would kind of reflect that he didn't really have a

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>huge year. He was much better in ten when he

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>came back as a third year junior and was uncoverable.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>And then defensively, you had Kareem Jackson, who was the

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 2>first round pick, Brandon Detrick, a defensive lineman. The seventh

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 2>round pick Lorenzo Washington was a seventh round pick or

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 2>an undrafted guy, but you know, bottom, you know, bottom

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of the roster guy and played maybe two or three years.

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Corey Remer our outside linebacker, never played down the NFL.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Eric Anders never played down the NFL.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to go through the whole roster, Greg,

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 3>we get we get it well.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>So it's like one of those things. It's like we

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not like it was a superstar dridden team.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>We had some good players, but it wasn't you know,

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>we were just we were just good, like some was

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>greater than each individual part, which I think was kind

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>of cool about that roster and what made it a

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>little different from the rosters that came down the road.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>So no, like national championship was never really in our

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>four purview, Like it was more let's, hey, let's beat LSU,

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 2>let's beat Alabama, and hey, if we get the chance,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>let's beat Florida. You know, those were kind of the

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>three things we wanted to do that year. And then

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>sure enough, the wins just kept piling up and the

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>National Championship became, you know, a clearer focus.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, the win over Florida was really cool to

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>watching the Swamp Kings documentary on Netflix and seeing it

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>was obviously the Florida side of things from their perspective,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but just seeing you guys go in there and beat them.

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if that was on nine or ten,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, what was it like to play for coach Saban?

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He seems to be the same guy because Wolfley played

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>for the Browns for Belichick and was the decordinator. And

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the way he talks about Saban is the same way

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.439
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about him, and basically the same thing I've

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>seen when I've done his games. Is he the same

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>guy today that he was then? What's it like to

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>be around him as a player.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>No, he's a lot different now than he used to be,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, really, yeah, And but he's

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 2>had to adapt and the modern players different and like us,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>we never asked why, you know what I mean, like

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the players back in the day, not that we're tougher,

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>like I don't like the whole notion. Well back in

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>my day, you know, like it's not really bad, but

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.479
<v Speaker 2>but we just Hey, you want us to go jump

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 2>off a bridge? Perfect, let's go. Hey, you want us

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 2>to you want us to do this, let's do it.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you think, Like we trusted him one you know,

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever he needed us to do, we were going to

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>do it. And he didn't really have to push, he

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't really have to ask, he didn't have to beg

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 2>he just did it. But the modern day players is

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>not that way. Like the modern player has options. You

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 2>can enter the transfer portal, you can go somewhere else.

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 2>You can voice your frustration on social media with your

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>coaching staff, which in turn hurts recruiting, which you know

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>means you really get the last laugh if if a

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>coach doesn't treat you the way you need to be

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 2>treated or the way you think you need to be treated,

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>so he's had to change. I think he kind of

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>handles guys with with a little bit different approach. Like

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>back in our day it was tough love man like,

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 2>it was hard and he was not nice, and you

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>know he was, I mean, he was a dictator and

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what he was. I mean, that's there's no

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 2>doubt about it. His way or the highway. And if

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't want any part of the team final, you're

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>not gonna win. And see you it was pretty simple.

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 2>But the one thing that he always did a really

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 2>good job of is that when you were struggling, maybe

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you had a run of bad games, maybe a game

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>or two he didn't play great. He had a unique

0:37:56.520 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>ability of being able to sense your or internal challenge,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, because you're you know, you're clearly feeling it,

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>like you want to play well, you want you want

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to help the team. He would really kind of build

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you up. So he'd call you in his office. You

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna get ripped, and he'd be like, man,

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>you're doing great. Just hang in there, you know what

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Yeah, And he would also and look at

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the same time, he's like, hey, we need to do

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>this better. But hey, you get like you're out there

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 2>for a reason, like we love you, we believe in you.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 2>You can do it for us, you know, not maybe

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>not I love you, but you know, something closer to that.

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And then when you're playing great, he'll rip you the shreds.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hang on a second, what do you mean

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm bawling out, coach, like why are you gone me?

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Like stop? Like so, I think it's a way though,

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 2>to keep everybody even and to kind of feel even.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to experience the highs and the lows.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want you to be too high with the

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 2>highs or too low with the lows. If you're really

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>on cloud nine, he's going to bring you back down

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 2>to earth. And if you're not feeling so great about

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 2>where you're at, he's going to build up. And I

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>think you can always kind of tell with him in

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>his press conferences where the team is at, because if

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>he's really really happy and nice, maybe the team doesn't

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>feel great about themselves. If he's starting to get agitated,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe the team's a little too over confident. And you know,

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that's kind of the way he doesn't. That's

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>why his team's so consistent, Dave, Like I mean, I

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>mean they've played in like three games since two thousand

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and nine that didn't have a possibility of going to

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the playoff for the national championship. Like I mean, there

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>haven't been many games that haven't had national championship or

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>playoff implications that he's been a part of. Because the

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>team is so consistent, you're gonna get predictable performance. They

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>might not always have their best stuff, but it's going

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to be more predictable than most other places.

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, I'm sorry I've kept you longer than I intended,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate the time. But I do have to

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>ask about twenty twelve.

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I did just read off the whole roster N Championship team,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to time.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what you were trying to do is

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>get off the phone before I brought up twenty twelve.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 2>That was exactly what it I was trying to filibuster.

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So glad that you were able to piece that together.

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So, being your pal and wanting to support my pal,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I always try to watch when I can your games.

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'm on the plane after doing Florida State BC

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to watch.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah, look at you just getting getting your

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>assignment And that was a huge rating last week, just

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 2>a ratings bonanza, and you go ahead and just shamelessly

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>promotes that was your game.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>That's fine, Wait, which I didn't see. Did that? Did

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 3>that outrate the backyard brawl in your game?

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>It did, but I think Wolfly had a lot to

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>do with it. When he started the show and he

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 2>said all right, I said, I'm done with this show.

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think Wolflely was our was our nemesis. There

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.720
<v Speaker 2>in the in the rating category.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You're getting wolf back for twenty twelve. So anyway, I'm

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to watch your game West Virginia Pitt and the

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the TVs on on the flight keep going out. So

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting frustrated. Now I can't watch your game. I

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>can't watch any game. So I'm gonna watch a movie.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I start watching Field of Dreams. Do you

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>remember the scene.

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Where you watch Field.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been watching Field of Dreams, like the last I

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 2>watched like ten minutes a night before I go to sleep,

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, right at the part where he picks

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>up he picks up James R.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Jones arch arch noeral Jones.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Already there, he picks up Archie. You know the doctor

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 2>guy perfectly comes back as a kid. So they just

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>picked him up last night and see what happens.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so perfect. This is absolutely perfect. So you remember

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the scene where they're at Fenway Park and on the

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.919
<v Speaker 1>screen that only Kevin Coster and James Earl Jones can see,

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it says Archibald Graham one yeah or Moonlight Graham. I

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think it says one played appearance. No official at bats

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and so he.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Played a half He played a half inning bats.

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Come on, okay, So that made me think of your

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>NFL career one win, one win as an NFL quarterback.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And it happened to come against the Arizona Cardinals in

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty two well, a game that, by the way, I

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>still feel bad about to this day because I was

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ruthless to you on the broadcast. I felt so bad

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that I confessed and played the tape for you many

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>years ago. But both Wolfley and I were ripping you,

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and we shouldn't have because he went out and played

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>great and won the game. What do you remember about

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I even I can't remember if Ken Wizen came up

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to you last year because he was at a consultant

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>at Penn State. And I texted Whiz and I said,

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>if you see McElroy's doing the game, if you see him,

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>go up and tell him, hey, thanks for getting me

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>fired because of the twenty twelve I don't know if

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>he did it or not. But what do you remember

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>from that game? I mean not many core. How many

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 1>people in the world can say they won an NFL game?

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And then you started the next week a month and

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>at football if I'm not mistaken, but tell me about

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals game in twenty twelve.

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Yeah, So I did not start the following week.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>We played the Jaguars the following week, which have been

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 2>great place for me to start my first game in

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 2>said they put Mark back and all Jacksonville did was

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>run cover three and I would have tore him up

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 2>in like perfect weather. Uh. And then Mark started the

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 2>following week on Monday Night football and he turned over

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 2>five times and got the hook. And I just started

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 2>on a short week. The week after we get eliminated

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>from the playoffs against the San Diego Chargers, who literally,

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching the tape six weeks earlier, absolutely killed the

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Big Ben. So I'm like, oh god, this is not good.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>You know. So long story short. Against the Cardinals, Mark

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.959
<v Speaker 2>had been struggling. I had had a really good year

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>running the scout team. Uh. And you know TiVo was

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>there too, but Tibo as as far as like the

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>down end, down out offense, I was operating it a

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>little better than him. So I started getting a couple

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>of reps, you know, two weeks earlier, and then a

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 2>week earlier, and then Mark had the butt fumble game

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>on Thanksgiving, which was, you know, a tough one and

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 2>we got killed by New England. Uh, so you know,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 2>they basically come up there and and they say, hey,

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>we're we're gonna dress you this week and and you

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>know you're gonna be the two and and we'll just

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>be ready in case, you know, markets off to a

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 2>slow start, we'll get you in there. And sure enough,

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>slow start, I'm not sure doesn't justice. Both defense were

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>playing pretty well. We had a good defense. Y'all had

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good defense. People don't like to remember that,

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<v Speaker 2>but the defense is actually pretty good. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>had Rashaw Johnathan, you had you know, Patrick Peterson. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good group collectively if I.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember, yeah, darn Old Dock Carrie Rhodes, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah was on that team.

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<v Speaker 3>You really can't remember, Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it wasn't a bad group. Y'all had a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty salty outfit. But y'all ran a lot of man coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>so we didn't have great wide receivers. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you remember Clyde Gates and Jeremy Curly and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and over the Hill, Gosh, Braylan Edwards, Jeff Jeff Cumberland.

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<v Speaker 2>So we didn't have a great outfit of wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Chas Shilling's I'm sure you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't remember him. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Memory of an elephant. Anyways, it was a it was

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<v Speaker 2>not exactly a star study group, so I don't blame

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<v Speaker 2>him for playing a lot of man coverage. But Mark

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<v Speaker 2>was off the mark. It turned it over a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times. They say, all right, Michroy, you're in there, male.

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<v Speaker 2>Third quarter, All of a sudden, I mean, the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>probably the first from the second quarter on is channing

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<v Speaker 2>McElroy for had to have been a quarter and Mark

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<v Speaker 2>gets the hook. I go in warm up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and first drive as a pro and of the third

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<v Speaker 2>quarter I handed off, had a nice little run check

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<v Speaker 2>piece of cake out the right door, right down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, all right, this is this is easy, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? This ain't hard. Had a couple

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>of other plays that were pretty good. And then first

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<v Speaker 2>play of the fourth quarter, which is why this game

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<v Speaker 2>will go down as a fourth quarter comeback win. We

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<v Speaker 2>had third and goal at the one yard line or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, hey, man, let's run the boot like

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't seen it, like they're selling out against the run.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 2>They don't think we'll throw it. The boot was wide,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but hit Jeff Cumberland and we take a seven

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<v Speaker 2>to six lead. Well pass forward. There was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of plays that it was kind of back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>defensive battle. Like Rex is like, don't turn it over.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do, don't turn it over. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what happened if if you keep doing what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna win this game because Ryan Lindley ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>beat us. I was like, yeah, I probably agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Long story short, basically, any drive the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>kick was a good drive by us. And then there

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<v Speaker 2>was a third down and six or so where we

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of put the game on ice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew we could kneel on it if we picked it up,

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<v Speaker 2>So I had Jeremy Curley working against Patrick Peterson hit

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<v Speaker 2>a little back shoulder to the right hand side and

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of put the game on ice. We

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<v Speaker 2>kneeled on it a couple plays later and the red

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<v Speaker 2>zone and called it today. So it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>really a cool moment. I hate that it came against

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<v Speaker 2>your team, but it was a cool moment to you know, say,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I did it, you know, throw an NFL touchdown past

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>get an NFL game. I think at that point that

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>was probably all I really wanted to get from the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get my pension, I wanted to play,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to score touchdown. And if I did

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<v Speaker 2>those three things, I felt pretty good about my career.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that day I was able to accomplish you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two of the three. So it's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you ended up, you know, staying in

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<v Speaker 1>the league for a couple more years, one with the Jets,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>one with Cincinnati, and then off you were to television.

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<v Speaker 1>And here you are, still a young guy with uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the position you've got right now, man is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the voices and faces of college football probably

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<v Speaker 1>for the next thirty years. So things have worked out. Man, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming on, Bro. I know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on with sports center, hips and game

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<v Speaker 1>prep for Florida State Clemson. There's a there's a plug

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<v Speaker 1>for your game ABC noon Eastern.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow on Saturday. But are you guys on Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>time or Western West Coast time right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific? I mean it's always Mountain time. But yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's three hours back. So nine am oukay.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine am local a right? Good? Yeah, so perfect. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope everybody in the valley's checking it out. It will

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>be awesome. But I appreciate you, buddy. I love you,

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and I know I wouldn't be where I'm at without

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<v Speaker 2>without your help and without your tutelage and your friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love you very much. I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep on keep on pushing the pashpod. I just

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<v Speaker 2>love the pash pot.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, we'll take a retweet or a repost. They're

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get these days. We'll take one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to cost you, but we'll at least a

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine Camus or whatever the heck it

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>was that you opened.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, you whatever you stole out of your dad's stash

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<v Speaker 1>that you blamed on me. Yeah, that that I'll pay

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<v Speaker 1>you back.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect. That sounds like a good plan.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, brother, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>See you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to catch up with Greg and a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dion Sanders Colorado story is fascinating. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>almost ten million people watch that game Colorado Colorado State

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 1>this past week Colorado plays Oregon this week, usc next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Dion is the biggest story. Colorad to Football's the biggest story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible to see how many people are tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>just to see what happens with a program that won

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<v Speaker 1>one game last year. Also fun to talk about Greg's

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<v Speaker 1>playing days with Alabama and then his one NFL win

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback in twenty twelve against the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow us on Twitter, slash x at Pash pod.

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