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Speaker 1: John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Well, murder is an ugly thing, but when a police

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity now to speak to Kim Clinkinbruomer. She's

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Speaker 2: going to come on the show along with the fiance

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Speaker 2: of Deputy Ryan Clinkinbruomer, who was shot back on September sixteenth.

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Speaker 2: He was stopped at a red light outside the Palmdale

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Speaker 2: Cataneo Salazar, apparently drove up next to Ryan's patrol car

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Speaker 2: later came the news Melle County District Attorney George Gascone

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Speaker 2: he would not seek the death penalty in the killing

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Speaker 1: Even a cold blooded, intentional murder is not enough for

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Speaker 1: These are the kinds of cases for the death penalty.

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Speaker 1: So Kim click is the mother, Brittany Lindsey is the fiance,

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Speaker 1: and let's get them on the line together. Kim and lindsay,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's start by either one of you, obviously, both of

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Speaker 2: you tell our listeners about Ryan, because it's really important

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Speaker 2: that they know this man that was so important to you.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'll start.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm mom.

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Speaker 6: He was just an honorable kid. He was very honest

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Speaker 6: and trustworthy. He knew from a very early age that

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Speaker 4: Badge from the day he got it with honor.

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Speaker 7: He was very proud of of the badge and very

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Speaker 1: Did he talk much about the danger of his job.

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 6: He knew that. He knew that every day he he

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Speaker 8: But every day he put it on proudly.

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Speaker 6: And he went to work proudly. It's a risk, we

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Speaker 9: And he really liked He really liked his job. Huh.

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Speaker 6: He loved his job. He loved his job, and his

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Speaker 9: Brittany, Brittany, let's talk to Brittany about about Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Tell us more.

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Speaker 10: He's just the most caring, thoughtful person that you'd ever meet.

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Speaker 10: He's always wanted to take care of everyone. Again, like

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Speaker 10: she said, loved his job. He went to work every

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Speaker 10: I would sit and pray every night I come home safely,

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Speaker 10: you know, and he would just tell me it's gonna

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Speaker 10: on to do, and I love doing it. And just

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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know anyone who is that happy

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Speaker 10: He's just a very hard working person and just want

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Speaker 2: You two must have had quite a life plan together, Huh.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we did.

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Speaker 10: You know, we talked about you know, even that day

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Speaker 1: Kim Uh. Talk about how you feel about the state

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Speaker 9: Criminal justice system, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you are now, unfortunately, one of

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Speaker 5: The just a totally different perspective, and.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, I did some to say I didn't

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Speaker 6: But after that, I just want to make it clear

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Speaker 6: I would seek the death penalty.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're not stupid.

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Speaker 6: We're all human beings, and we know that Ryan's not

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Speaker 6: death penalty, and for two individuals to take the death

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Speaker 4: I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican.

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Speaker 6: The people of Los Angeles and the people of the

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Speaker 6: filling in the right bubbles for people that are going

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Speaker 6: to protect victims of crimes. We now have a cashless

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Speaker 6: he sits in jail, and now he's getting his medicine

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Speaker 6: I don't have mine. And that's okay.

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Speaker 4: He made a choice.

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Speaker 5: He chose to.

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Speaker 6: Pull that trigger on that gun and take my son's life.

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Speaker 5: There needs to be consequences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a majority of voters in California have voted for

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Speaker 1: that the death penalty doesn't bring the victims back. So

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Speaker 1: it's a completely phony issue. Nobody debates that issue.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's insulting Kim that he said what he said

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Speaker 1: Types, almost almost really shaming you. It's like, why are

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Speaker 4: I was disgusted.

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Speaker 5: I'm not bringing my son back.

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Speaker 2: Have you been following this DA and his wrecking of

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Speaker 6: This No, obviously coming from a law enforcement family, you

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Speaker 4: It's not right. But it started back you know, when he.

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Speaker 5: Was working with Newsom and Newsom doesn't believe in it.

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Speaker 6: Well, what this gentleman did to my family is an

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Speaker 9: Can you both hang on?

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Speaker 5: I don't have anymore.

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Speaker 9: Can you both hang on for another segment?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. That's Kim Clinkinbroomer. She is the mother

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Speaker 2: of La County Shriff's Deputy Ryan Clinkinbroomer, who was shot

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Speaker 2: Also with us is Ryan's fiance, Brittany Lindsey. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: We are talking with Kim Clinton Broomer. Her son, Ryan Clintonbroomer,

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Speaker 1: We also have on his fiance, Brittany Lindsay, and they're

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brittany if I wanted to get your reaction.

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Speaker 1: We just heard from from cam to Gascone and his

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I just I was in shock when he made

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Speaker 13: You know, this guy's meds weren't being monitored, so if

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Speaker 12: And you know, I just want to also make a

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Speaker 2: Let me ask both of you, because now that we

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Speaker 2: some form of insanity. Supposedly he's paranoid, schizophrenic, the killer

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Speaker 2: He could be out. He's only in his twenties. He

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Speaker 9: Kim, how do you feel about that.

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Speaker 5: It's disgusting to even think that.

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Speaker 6: It's I can't even sathom that this individual could be

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's very true.

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Speaker 6: Because, as mister Gascon said, we are going to try

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Speaker 4: We're going to try and.

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Speaker 2: You probably know where life in prison without parole is

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Speaker 2: going these days. Gascon himself has talked about how fifteen

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Speaker 6: And again I will go back to it's not a

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Speaker 6: and what's wrong. And when you commit a crime, you've

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Speaker 4: You made a choice. You need to pay the price

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Speaker 6: And I know mental health is they're saying he was schizophrenic.

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Speaker 6: Well then that goes on to the parents too. If

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Speaker 5: Whole other issue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the parents are very culpable in all this because

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Speaker 6: And for that to be taken away and you tell

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Speaker 6: He's going to aid the people that break in. He

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Speaker 6: Services are Thursday at nine point thirty at the cathedral

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Speaker 7: Of how this week.

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Speaker 1: to commemorate David Goldstein's career at Channel two and Channel

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Speaker 1: news directors, also was going through the list. In any event,

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Speaker 11: So did David Goldstein, this is your line.

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Speaker 2: This guy is like a fun by the way, I

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Speaker 11: Before, David made a name for himself in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I'm David Goldstein.

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Speaker 14: I'm reporter with Channel two News.

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Speaker 11: He begat perfecting his sigout in Harrisburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 14: David Gordon reporting, Wait a second, I forgot who my

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Speaker 7: When I forgot what I was going to say.

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Speaker 11: Next Jacksonville, Florida, Then Miami said where he developed a

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Speaker 15: Doud can do it.

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Speaker 14: And with our hidden camera, here's how easy it is

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Speaker 14: to buy drugs on Wall Street.

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Speaker 11: Yep, that's Goldie undercover getting a shoeshine.

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Speaker 14: Know anyone around telling any cooke.

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Speaker 11: David's played a crucial role at CBS two and KKEL

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Speaker 1: They're all thankful the buyer department has arrived.

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Speaker 11: Oh ju the OJ trial JA And I told.

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Speaker 9: You before he wasn't going to say anything.

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Speaker 15: I know you got to ask a question, but give

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Speaker 14: Official say, this was the area that was brown zero

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Speaker 11: And reporting on the Gulf War from Jerusalem.

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Speaker 6: Another witness.

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Speaker 11: While some are willing to answer his questions, he said.

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Speaker 15: Hey, man, the lady's walking right up the feet.

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Speaker 11: Others not so much.

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Speaker 7: You have.

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Speaker 9: You brought up being frugal. Let me just talk to

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Speaker 9: you one second, can't man? I got nothing is idiots,

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Speaker 9: you got nothing to say?

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Speaker 15: Nothing?

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Speaker 14: How going?

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 1: None of us? True? I got video, man, we got

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Speaker 14: Mister Baker, you left your wine over here, sir, mister Baker,

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Speaker 14: you left your twelve bottles of wine.

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Speaker 11: Well you've got to give it to David. He's the

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Speaker 1: Don't stand in front of.

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Speaker 9: My camera, sir. Don't put your hand on the camera.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't put your hand on the camera.

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Speaker 11: It was not a party. It was a professional promotional event.

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Speaker 1: Why won't you show it to us?

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Speaker 5: I'll show it you right.

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Speaker 14: Oh no, wait a minute, I houst you right now,

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Speaker 7: Listen.

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Speaker 9: You want to take my phone?

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Speaker 11: Go back and when they see Goldie coming, it's time

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Speaker 9: Well, what about the bet. Come on, Jason, We've.

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Speaker 11: Been grateful to have an investigative reporter like David Goldstein

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Speaker 1: Ten point two million dollars.

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Speaker 11: No one's been more vigilant.

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Speaker 14: You're getting a manicure using the lapd BMW.

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Speaker 11: David has been a friend of mine for thirty five years.

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Speaker 11: I know I speak for the entire KKAL News team

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Speaker 11: It was that was three minutes life in three minutes,

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Speaker 11: you know, Goldie, I just want to point out there's

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Speaker 11: that helped the taxpayers of the city. I remember that

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Speaker 11: red light camera investigation you did. David Goldstein made it,

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Speaker 4: About that.

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Speaker 14: You know, they were making a lot of money off

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Speaker 14: proud of that the city took those away. Pet stores,

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Speaker 11: I think I told you this that one of the

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Speaker 1: I was really scared for you.

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Speaker 11: But you were intrepid, incredulous David when we met.

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Speaker 14: Thirty thirty four years ago.

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Speaker 11: Did you expect that you'd be here now?

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Speaker 14: Of course, not knowing in this business or I don't

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Speaker 14: I mean, it went like a flash.

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Speaker 11: It does not that I say that. And I'm looking

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Speaker 11: have a lot of fun together. We still will.

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Speaker 14: We still do and people and we use the term

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Speaker 14: family a lot in this business. But truly we have

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Speaker 14: been the best of friends for thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Years, my brother.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to miss seeing you every day. I'm going

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Speaker 11: to miss seeing you coming in the doors, miss seeing

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Speaker 11: you too, sitting on the set, and just all those

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Speaker 11: little any question, didn't I had her concern? I talk

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Speaker 11: to you and get wisdom, and you're really were luckible.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to miss seeing you're coming in the newsroom

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Speaker 14: every day. But we still you know, we're going out

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Speaker 14: to dinner after the six o'clock broadcast. We're still going

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Speaker 14: to see each other.

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Speaker 4: We will and.

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Speaker 14: Uh, you know, we talk about retirement, and I'm going

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Speaker 14: to set it straight. I'm not calling it a retirement.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to take a break for a while and

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Speaker 14: see there's a next next chapter out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, David Goldstein, And that was the tribute to

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Speaker 1: that they did on Channel two and Channel nine k

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Speaker 1: CAL News last night with Pat Harvey and really the

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Speaker 1: best investigative reporter I've ever seen on television, and we

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Speaker 1: really we ran a lot of his reports and all

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Speaker 1: we had to do is run it. Could could not

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Speaker 1: improve on that, and it was a lot of it

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Speaker 1: was street theater. It was funny because when people got caught,

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Speaker 1: especially random anonymous government workers, when they saw him in

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Speaker 1: the camera coming and they would take off and run,

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Speaker 1: and then the gobbledee cook from the idiot bureaucrats trying

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Speaker 1: to explain something that was indefensible and inexplicable. It's just

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Speaker 1: classic stuff. I wish it was like a collect They

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Speaker 1: had to sound like some kind of collection. Maybe have

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Speaker 1: a YouTube channel of the best of David Goldstein. He

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Speaker 1: won more than fifteen Emmy Awards. He got a Lifetime

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Speaker 1: Achievement Award from the LA Press Club and the Radio

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Speaker 1: and Television News Association of Southern California. If you watched

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Speaker 1: his investigations over the years on Channel two and Channel nine,

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Speaker 1: you saw the best guy in America for this and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to him coming up? Do we have him?

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Speaker 1: Is he coming in? Because I know he's really busy

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Speaker 1: today and I think we're going to have him on

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Speaker 1: next on the John Cobelt Show on KFI AM six

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Speaker 1: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 3: six forty.

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Speaker 1: David Goldstein retired yesterday after thirty four years at two

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Speaker 1: and Channel nine, KKL News and k CBS. He was

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Speaker 1: the investigative reporter for most of those years and just

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Speaker 1: just the best, the best reporter of his kind I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in the whole country. And let's get him

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Speaker 1: on here, David, John.

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Speaker 15: How you doing man? Thank you for the kind words.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you had some time to come on

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Speaker 1: because I know everybody wants to get a piece of

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Speaker 1: you today.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'm really nothing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm really going to miss you. I thought

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Speaker 1: your reports were just they were first of all, they

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Speaker 1: were entertaining. They were so funny because you'd always have

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Speaker 1: these government workers running across parking lots trying to get

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Speaker 1: away after you caught them wasting time on the taxpayer's

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Speaker 1: clock because they were out buying things, or they that

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Speaker 1: that who who was the group that was at the

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Speaker 1: strip club at like eleven o'clock in the morning, d

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Speaker 1: w P d w w I. I've told that story

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Speaker 1: so many times through a friends and family. Weren't they

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Speaker 1: stacking beer cups next to the table if I remember.

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Speaker 15: No, we never got video inside it was too dark,

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Speaker 15: but they were drinking and driving the trucks right, we

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Speaker 15: found them doing. But you always need a good character

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Speaker 15: in a story, I always felt, and many of these

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Speaker 15: stories lent themselves to good characters. Wasn't the good character

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Speaker 15: is you know the city worker or whatever, or even

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Speaker 15: the mayor or you know officials. So good characters make

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Speaker 15: a great story.

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Speaker 1: Another part I enjoyed when you'd have the supervisors the

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Speaker 1: administrators trying to explain something that was indefensible, and they

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Speaker 1: would give you all the bureaucratic gobbledygook, and you would

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Speaker 1: just sit there with face.

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Speaker 15: You know, they were all prepared, they had their media people,

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Speaker 15: and you could tell they knew exactly they were going

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Speaker 15: to give the answer. No matter what question I asked,

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Speaker 15: they would give the same answer. And you know, you

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Speaker 15: work your way around that and you sort of make

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Speaker 15: them look stupid giving the same answer all the time,

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Speaker 15: no matter what my question is.

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Speaker 1: You must have been tempted just to say, cut the crap.

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Speaker 1: You're full of it.

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Speaker 15: Most of the time, you are.

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Speaker 1: I would not have had.

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Speaker 15: You're in the same boat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean then just and and and just

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Speaker 1: the the outrage you would express at whoever the target

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Speaker 1: was you were chasing out in the street, that you

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Speaker 1: incredulous have to Yeah, I.

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Speaker 15: Try to put myself in the viewer's position, and the

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Speaker 15: viewers watching this going, holy you know, crap, what is

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Speaker 15: going on here? You know, and that that's my taxpayer money,

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Speaker 15: or that's my mayor, or that's my I'm paying you know,

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Speaker 15: I just paid my electric bill last month, and look

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Speaker 15: at what these men and women are doing with the department.

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Speaker 15: So I was trying to put myself in the viewers spot.

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Speaker 15: There and to show the absurdity of what the what

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Speaker 15: we catch these peo people doing compared to what the

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Speaker 15: average person can do. You know, the viewers sitting there

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Speaker 15: and they know that. You know, they're supposed to be

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Speaker 15: work at nine o'clock and if they get there at

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Speaker 15: nine ten, they get doctor an hour's pay maybe. And

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Speaker 15: here you see these people who talk in at seven

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Speaker 15: point thirty and go to breakfast at eight fifteen and

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Speaker 15: look the road at eleven or ten thirty. They work

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Speaker 15: for an hour and they go to lunch for two hours.

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Speaker 15: And the viewers sitting they going, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: How many How many weeks would you put in to

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Speaker 1: get one classic package right, like one of those five

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Speaker 1: six minute pieces?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How long would that take to do?

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Speaker 13: It?

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Speaker 15: Depends, you know, on the story, how lucky we are,

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Speaker 15: how good the tip is that we get. Sometimes we

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Speaker 15: capture what the tip tipster tells us in the first

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Speaker 15: day or two, but even there we'll go, okay, well,

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Speaker 15: let's try to get it again and again. No matter

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Speaker 15: when or how I got it, if we were trying

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Speaker 15: to capture abuse, I would always try to do it.

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Speaker 15: I'd not try I would insist upon doing it two,

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Speaker 15: three or four times, because everyone has a bad day, right,

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Speaker 15: And if you're not feeling well and you're going to

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Speaker 15: sit in a coffee shop for two hours because your

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Speaker 15: stomach's bothering you or whatever, I'm not going to hitch

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Speaker 15: you for that. But if you're doing it day after

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Speaker 15: day after day, then it becomes one of our investigations.

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Speaker 1: Well, Deby and I were just talking off the air,

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Speaker 1: how that it looks like a glamorous job, right, the

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter exposing all the wrongdoing and corruption and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But I know you told me once that it can

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Speaker 1: be really tedious sitting in that van all day waiting.

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Speaker 15: Oh it is, it is, and you're sitting in the

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Speaker 15: van in summertime it's ninety five degrees out. Oftentimes we

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Speaker 15: can't keep the engine on in the air conditioning because

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Speaker 15: we're in an undercover van and people who see that

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Speaker 15: engine's running there, So it is. It's tedious. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 15: it's days before we get the shot, and that's most

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Speaker 15: of the time on our investigations. If it's a hidden

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Speaker 15: camera investigation, I'll open the piece with that and you'll

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Speaker 15: see the shot two or three or four times in

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Speaker 15: the piece that might have taken us weeks to get

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Speaker 15: that shot. But it's the beautiful fifteen second open of

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Speaker 15: the story. But that could have taken us weeks and

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Speaker 15: sitting in an event and waiting and waiting and waiting.

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Speaker 1: Well, it must have drawn huge audiences over the years,

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Speaker 1: because with all the budget cuts going on in TV

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Speaker 1: news for so long, you kept going for thirty four years,

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Speaker 1: and they gave you a lot of freedom, and they

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Speaker 1: gave you a lot of rope, and you did magnificently. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the best TV careers I've seen. We

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Speaker 1: have so much. It was so much fun to have

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Speaker 1: you on all the time and promote it and to

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Speaker 1: play them play the pieces and talk about it, and

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Speaker 1: you gave us a lot of material.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it was fun and I still enjoyed it. You know,

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Speaker 15: everyone's using the R word and retirement, and I did

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Speaker 15: not use that when I for just to announce this.

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Speaker 15: It's sort of morphed into that, But I don't look

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Speaker 15: at look at it as a retirement. I want to

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Speaker 15: step away for a while, take some time off with

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Speaker 15: my wife Dorothy, do some traveling and see what if

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Speaker 15: anything is out there. Afterward, I mean I have some

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Speaker 15: ideas of things that I want to do, not something

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Speaker 15: that I want to jump into next week or after

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Speaker 15: the first of the year. I want to take some

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Speaker 15: time off and then.

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Speaker 1: See, well, whatever your next venture is, give us a

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Speaker 1: call and we'd love you.

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Speaker 15: I know you got it. You have an empty seat

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Speaker 15: right across the studio.

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Speaker 1: I know an anytime you want to come in, please

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Speaker 1: keep you company for a while.

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Speaker 15: Ken You're gone now to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm feeling abandoned here. Well, David, enjoy whatever whatever

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Speaker 1: it is you're going to be doing, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 15: Okay, Thanks John, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, David Goldstein, Ky cal Case, CBS

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Speaker 1: Channel two and nine and thirty four years as an

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter. Just the just the best ever John Cobelts

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Speaker 1: Show on KFI AM six forty, live everywhere on the

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