1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: To trick your down. You got real telling, go concentrate 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: on golf. 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Thanks for once again joining the Action 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Network Podcast, the Golf Edition. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm Jason Soble. 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: He is Peter Jennings, and we're gonna get into this 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: week's Rocket Mortgage Classic. We're gonna get into last week's 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Travelers Championship. There was another fun finish. We've got three 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: in a row, really good events so far. And as always, Peter, 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: let's start off with something actionable. Minds, we're not quite actionable, 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: but here's my declaration for the week. It's gonna get weird. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna get real weird. We're gonna dig into the 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: weeds in this thing over the next half hour, and 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: we're going to give you some names that you might 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: not have been thinking of. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Give me one name that is on your mind here 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: on Monday as we record this. I am very interested 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: in Will Gordon. You mentioned it at the top. It's 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: not the strongest field that we've had the previous three weeks, 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: so I'm looking deep in the weeds as well. And 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Will Gordon got a top three finish at the Travelers. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Guy hits the ball a long way constantly in the 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: one eighties in terms of ball speed when they have 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: the track man on him. And you had a great 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: tweet final around sixty four for Will Gordon, I'll have 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: to wait to answer some questions about future status, but 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: already confirmed the kid can play. This was his eighth 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: career PGA Tour start and he's finished thirty first or 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: better in five of them. So I love Will Gordon 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: and I'm looking to fire him in some formats. 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: So he did indeed get that special temporary membership on 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. He should be pretty good moving forward 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: as far as status. He didn't have to burn a 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: sponsors exemption this week, got into the field based off 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: his top ten last week, and because of all these 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: things off his shoulders, Peter, because he doesn't have to 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: worry about a whole lot of things he would have 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: had to worry about. 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: I kind of like him. I mean, I like him 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: for the whole week, but I like him for our 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: first round leader bed. 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: I like him going low in the first round with 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: some momentum off of last week, and then maybe at 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: some point the kid gets a little tired, but yes, 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: you're right. 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: He's a great talent. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: And let's get into last week a little bit before 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: we get into the Rocket Mortgage. One of my favorite 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: events TBC River Highlands. Not a shock by any means 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: anytime Dustin Johnson wins thirteen straight seasons now on the 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, twenty one career wins. Didn't look like the 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: closer we've come to know really down the stretch until 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that drive on eighteen. 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: But that's okay. I did exactly what. 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: He needed to do to go out there and win. 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Betting was fine, had a couple of top twenties that 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: came through for me. I didn't have dj dfs, Peter. 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I had one of those jettings like sweats this weekend. 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: I kind of like seeing six figures on the cash 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: line at times. 63 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: During the weekend. 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: It did not end like that, but that was kind 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: of fun to sweat through that. Now I know what 66 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: it feels like to be you just a little bit. 67 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh Damnan, you had an incredible sweating. Lord. The ROI 68 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: for you was off the charts, and we were texting 69 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: throughout the weekend and yeah, what a team. A great 70 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: call on Brendan Steel, Brendan Steel, and Steel and Steel. 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I just want to be able to hit him all higher, 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: a little bit farther Steele, a little rip off the twelfth. 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Far to Wow, the way ahead of Steel. How good 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: was that? 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: You know in front of the podcast is putting it mildly. 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: I mean you you are truly boys with him. It's 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: great to see him play well, and it must have 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: been fun to be sweating him throughout the weekend. And 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: great team carnage in DFS for most people. I cashed 81 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: fifty to fifties with a three of six team. Not 82 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: a good DFS week that Ned didn't didn't have. DJ 83 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: didn't do any damage in tournaments, but three of six 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: was really the line there. So it's going to be 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens here. DJ established that he's healthy. 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: He's right there as one of the best players in 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: the world. Again, We're going to have to pay attention 88 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: to him. I mean, I'm very curious to see how 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: the markets react. I know he played really well the 90 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: week before at the RBC game, a ton of strokes 91 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: TDA Green, not a good round on Thursday, but then 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: played lights out Friday and Saturday, so good for DJ 93 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: and certainly is going to make the golf season that 94 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: much more interesting. 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a DJ firing on all cylinders is 96 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: a DJ that we like to see and kind of 97 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: gets everyone else a little bit scared, even though he's 98 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: not the longest guy out there anymore, and the longest 99 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: guy Bryson. I had Bryson to win this beast week. 100 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: I followed him a lot, just kind of watching what 101 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: he was doing that was not his A game, wasn't 102 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: even his B game, that was his C minus game, Peter, 103 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and the fact that Bryson We're going to talk about 104 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: him a decent amount for this week in Detroit where 105 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: he's just uncommonly low on the board against a like 106 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: we said, just sort of average field at the Rocket Mortgage. 107 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: But he did not have his best stuff, and I'm 108 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: not sure if that portends, you know, maybe a little 109 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: bit of a fade on Bryson moving forward, or if 110 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: we say, hey, you didn't have his best stuff and 111 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: he was for a sixth straight time in the top 112 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: ten this past week. Once he gets it all clicking, 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: it's just going to be rockets to the moon for Bryson, 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: which is very possible and Peter, you mentioned Brendan Steel, 115 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: friend of the Pod T six this past week. First 116 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: of all, is nobody listening to our pod because or 117 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: you just got guys not paying attention? Because Brendan Steel 118 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: was one point five to three percent owned in the 119 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: million Maker last week after we talked about him on 120 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: the pod, we talked about him on our Wednesday evening 121 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: show that we did online on Twitch. And still you 122 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: guys you don't want to listen. You want to take 123 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Brendan Steele. Let's fine, We're okay with that. I will 124 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: tell you that Steely after his round, I said, hey, 125 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: great round. You know, we text a lot, we talk 126 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: a lot, and immediately said, hey, did I win you 127 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: some money? So you talk about PGA Tour players being 128 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: cognizant of what we as betters and DFS players are 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: doing out there, he is very cognizant, as are many 130 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: of them. So I guess, Peter, we can talk about 131 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: guys on the SPoD, guys kind of digging old deep 132 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: for this week and still expect to see one one 133 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: point five percent in the million Maker. 134 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: So you know, hey, well we got some protection there. 135 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: I guess. I guess people don't want to listen to us. 136 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take steel at one point five percent 137 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: all day long, and uh yeah, it's interesting that you 138 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: know that they didn't move the needle much, but you know, 139 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: I think that that's a testament to how straw in 140 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: the field was, how many options there were you can 141 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: make some stacked teams. Last week, so given his price 142 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: and just kind of where everything went, he came in 143 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: super low owned and going back to bryceon totally agreed 144 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: didn't have his best stuff. And I think, you know, 145 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: if he could go back and hit three wood off 146 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: the TA on thirteen a couple of times, he would 147 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: be in a little bit better spot. I mean, I 148 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: don't understand what he was doing on some of the holes. 149 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: And Rory talked about the decision making for him too. 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: I know that that course was set up to kind of, 151 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, make some aggressive moves, but I don't know 152 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: if the decision making was was great for Bryce, and 153 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Rory certainly talked about that. So we'll see going forward, 154 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Bryson, Rory, jt rom D, web Simpson. I mean, 155 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: the top of the PGA tour right now is absolutely loaded, 156 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: and it's going to be exciting when they're on the field, 157 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: but that is not this week. We have Bryson on DraftKings. 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: He is plus six hundred to win the tournament. 159 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I love Bryson. I think it's going 160 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: to be a huge second half of the year for Bryson. 161 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: But one thing stuck out to me that Bryson said 162 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: this past week. I believe it was after the third 163 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: round where he was talking about playing this golf course 164 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: and he played before finishing the top ten the two 165 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: previous years, but he said, the way I'm hitting the 166 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: ball right now, because I'm hitting it such longer distances 167 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: off the tee, I have shorter distances into the greens. 168 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: It's like I'm playing a different golf course every week. 169 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: It's like I've never played these courses because I have 170 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: to relearn them and relearn them from based on my 171 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: game right now and based on where I'm hitting it to. 172 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense. And so if 173 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: you're blindly going to just play Bryson because hey, he's 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: the favorite in the field and you want to take 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: him in DFS, and you look, I won't talk. 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: You off of it. 177 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: I think he's good enough that on any golf course 178 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: right now he can figure it out and like I said, 179 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: still have his C minus game, not have his best stuff, 180 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and be able to finish in the top ten, which 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: is pretty impressive stuff from him. But the fact that 182 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: he's got to readjust everything, I think it shows that 183 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not all going to happen as quickly as some 184 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: of us might have expected for Bryson. I include myself 185 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: in that. Like I said, I picked him to win 186 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: last week. I bet on him outright. I thought it 187 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be a really good Bryson week. Could have 188 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: been so much better. It wasn't quite there. 189 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: But now I'm. 190 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: Sort of kind of in this. 191 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: You know, well, I'm not sure if not. 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: Playing great means that as soon as he turns it 193 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: on he's gonna start winning these things by six or 194 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: if it's hey, it's still not quite there for him, 195 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and we should probably hold off for a little bit 196 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: until he starts finding his If not a game at 197 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: least B plus game. 198 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be interesting. From a DFS perspective, Bryson 199 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: will probably be pretty chocky giving you such a huge favorite. 200 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: Moving past him, you have, you know, I think four 201 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: names that are under twenty to one. Web Simpson coming 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: off the win with Drew with an abundance of caution 203 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: last week, Tarrell Hatton, who was right, there could be 204 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: easily if it wasn't gonna be Web. At mean, it 205 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: looked like Hatten their answer. So Hatton coming off his 206 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: first week back playing great and of course was playing 207 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: amazing before the quarantine, you know, with a win and 208 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: just really elite ball striking Patrick Reid and then your 209 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: boy at Decu Manziama will let you down and maybe 210 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: this is the time to get back on the Dekie Manziama. 211 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on kind of this top tier. 212 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Here's the stat that I'm looking at is world ranking 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: numbers of the top ten last year at Rocket Mortgage 214 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: at the first ever PGA Tour event at Detroit Golf Club. 215 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to go through this real quickly. Peter I 216 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: tweeted it out. It's in my column this week as well, 217 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: but I think it's a pretty important number to look at. 218 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Nate Lashley was your winner by six. He was ranked 219 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty sixth in the world. Doc Redman 220 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: runner up. He was seven to eleven at the time. 221 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Rory Sabatini tied for third, one of eleven. Wes Roach 222 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: was for twenty one. Then we get down to a 223 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: bunch of guys tied for fifth. Joachi Neeman ninety seventh, 224 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Cameron Trenglly for twenty ninth, Patrick Reid twenty fifth, Brand 225 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Stenecker forty fifth, Ted Potter Junior one ninety fifth, Brian 226 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Stewart won sixty third. I mean, those numbers are all 227 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: over the place, and I guess we could say that 228 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: at a lot of different tournaments. 229 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: But these numbers are just showing that it doesn't matter 230 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: who you are. 231 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: This is a pretty democratic golf course, democratic golf tournament, 232 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: and if you're looking at just favorites this week, you're 233 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: probably doing it wrong. 234 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a ton of value in some of those 235 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: names that you just mentioned that finished well last year. 236 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm certainly interested. But yeah, in terms of a batting perspective, 237 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: I do think that you, especially with the classic field, 238 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: you can start looking at some longer numbers. You'll be 239 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: able to fit in a couple of those studs, depending 240 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: on how you want to build your lineups. So we'll 241 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: see in the top tier. You know, I'm a little 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: biased towards Bryson but I can see myself going down. 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: I actually like this upper middle tier a little bit more. 244 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, Victor Hoblin was playing amazing golf. Really encouraged 245 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: by what I've seen from him, Some Jay, Ricky Fowler, 246 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler, Bubba Watson, and then you know, after that 247 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: the names in terms of odds, it's Harris English, Lucas Glover, 248 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Nah JT. Boston. So it falls off in terms 249 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: of the fields that we've seen both the previous three weeks. 250 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this next year. 251 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: I'm probably not betting anyone who's under fifty to one 252 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: this week. I just don't see the value in it. 253 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: This is a tournament where it's sort of anybody's ball 254 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: game more so than some other ones, because there is 255 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: less history at this golf course. The one guy that 256 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I sort of like that I think is you know, 257 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: kind of under the radar based on a miscut and 258 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: then a okay finish at the Travelers is su Jm. 259 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: I mean a couple of weeks ago, if you could 260 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: have gotten some Jm. 261 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean in a week field at twenty five to one, 262 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: you might say, Sujay, somebody is great. Has a chance 263 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: every single week. Finished twenty first here a year ago 264 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: as a rookie. He's a better player and more mature 265 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: player right now. So I think Sungjay is a guy 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: that if I have to bet somebody who's at least 267 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: in that upper tier, he's probably my guy. I like 268 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: him for DFS, just a solid player, and I expect 269 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: him after a couple of down weeks to get it 270 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: going again we start looking at the next year. You 271 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: mentioned guys like English and Glover for fantasy purposes DFS purposes, Yeah, 272 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't mind them. 273 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: They're solid every single week. I just don't think that 274 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: those guys. 275 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't like their numbers at forty five to one 276 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: to bet on them outright. The one guy I do 277 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: like a lot, and I went through the numbers on 278 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Bran Snedeker at Donald Ross courses, and I did this last. 279 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: Year when I picked him. So I'm just gonna kind of. 280 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Cherry pick what I wrote last year, But I wrote 281 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Snedeker might be the closest we've seen to. 282 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: A Donald Ross specialist. 283 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: He won at forrest Oaks in two thousand and eight, 284 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: went at east Lake in twenty twelve, at Sedgefield in 285 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, finished T three at Plainfield and T nine 286 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: at Pinehurst. 287 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Number two. 288 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: Now you throw in a top five at this very 289 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: tournament last year, and it's pretty obvious that Brent Seneneker 290 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: really likes the quirkiness of Donald gross courses. 291 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: That's a very interesting one. And sixty six to one 292 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: on Draftkingsier on Monday morning, that's an interesting price. You know, 293 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: you can bet him to be top five. You can 294 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: plus twelve hundred and plus five to fifty on a 295 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: top ten strong market for Senedeker, and you know I 296 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: could buy that. I think that there's something for sure 297 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: to be said with Snedeker at those prices, and in 298 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: this field. This is my favorite tier by far. I 299 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: like Doc Redmon a ton. I think Doc Redman is 300 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: a name that most people who aren't Avid golf ins 301 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: don't really know, but putting up some great numbers right 302 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: now and played well here last year, So I think 303 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: Doc Redman makes a ton of sense and a little 304 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: bit shorter odds to win out right, basically the same 305 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: top five and top ten odds. And then Rory Sabatini, 306 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: someone that I've been playing a lot in DFS over 307 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: the last year. So I think he's another really strong 308 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: play a little bit shorter odds too, he's fifty to one. 309 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: But Roy Sabatini has been playing pretty good golf and 310 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, played well last year too, and this is 311 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: the kind of field where I think Rory Sabatini has 312 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: a chance to win. But I feel very confident that 313 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: he'll make the cut and will be a very good 314 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: DFS play. Yes, Sabateeni. 315 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: As I mentioned before T three last year, Doc Redman 316 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: the runner up last year. He's at this intersection of 317 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: recent form and course history, and so he's a guy 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: that we really like that said just two weeks ago, 319 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you could have gotten Doc Redman at I believe it 320 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: was three hundred to one. The value isn't quite there. 321 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Do you are you okay with chasing a guy like 322 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: that and saying, hey, look, the value is not there anymore. 323 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: But there's a reason the value is not there anymore, 324 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: because he's played really well and he's going back to 325 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: a course that he's had some success on. Or do 326 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: you say, look, everybody's gonna jump all over Doc Redman 327 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: this week. He's getting a little too hot for me. 328 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to look elsewhere. 329 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, people are paying attention, are 330 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: going to be on Doc Redman given his current form, 331 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: is history here and just the quality of the field, 332 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: And I think that you talk about value when you're 333 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: looking at all these numbers and you're comparing where you 334 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: normally see these guys. We have to take into account 335 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: the strength of the field, and this is one of 336 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: the weaker fields that we're going to see on the 337 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: PGA tour. So I don't think the number is horrible. 338 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: It's certainly not great. You know, the recent form combined 339 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: with the history, I think is what's driven that to 340 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: win number. But I love them for dfs. Probably won't 341 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: see value on them outright, but in other markets I 342 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: think there could be some value on him. And again 343 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: make sure, especially this week, that you line shop. I've 344 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: looked at a couple of markets for recording here on 345 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: Monday morning, there's already some pretty different prices, but as 346 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: the week evolves and books get action, I think we'll 347 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: see some really big discrepancies between these book odds. So 348 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: to me, one of the best ways to find value 349 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: in the bet golf is to look for the huge 350 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: line discrepancies, and occasionally you'll be able to find you know, 351 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: close to arbitrage, or if you have books that have yes, 352 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: no markets, you actually can find some arbitrage. So that's 353 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: one thing I'll be looking for in a big way. 354 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: And I think in this mid tier you'll see some 355 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: wildly different number. If you mentioned Senedeiker, you know, I 356 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: could see him getting down to fifty to one in 357 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: some places and staying in that sixty six and even 358 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: one book I see him seventy five to one. So 359 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: make sure you are shopping for the best prices, Peter, 360 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention some other names. I want to go 361 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: down the list. I'm gonna mention some names. 362 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I'll mention a little dual pro and con and I 363 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: want to see if I can sell you on some 364 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: of these guys and see if you like them for 365 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: this week or if you're like no, I'm just I'm 366 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: on the side of the con. I'm just not taking 367 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: them first one. And I told you guys, off stop, 368 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna get weird. We're gonna have some weird plays. 369 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some guys. 370 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: That we don't normally look at. First. 371 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: One is a guy I haven't played anywhere in probably 372 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: two years. Jason Duffner his lone major championship victory, and 373 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'm overrating the Donald Ross connection, but came at 374 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Donald Ross designed o kill. 375 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: Back in thirteen. 376 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: There's not a real sign that he's ready to go 377 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: out and win, but he's making cuts every single week. 378 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Duffner probably. 379 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: A pass for me Duffner, but always rooting for Jason Dufner. 380 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: A nice guy on tour, so but yeah, in terms 381 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: of betting, and bfs have not had any interest in him. 382 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: My guess is that that I will not have any 383 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: doffer called duff nice guy, but he's he's something something, 384 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: all right, maybe not you know, you know, you know 385 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: the PGA Tour rather than me. 386 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: Pretty next one I'm gonna thank PGA Tour Live for 387 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: because I was watching the early Sunday streaming coverage very 388 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: early before the TV broadcast came on, and they were 389 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: showing his his tusom because Jason Day was in it. 390 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: But I was watching Kevin Chapel and Kevin's out there 391 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: with a standbag. He's wearing a UCLA hat. Sort of 392 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: reminded me of old school Ryan Moore. This whole kind 393 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: of I don't give a crap. It's me against the world. 394 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm not doing what people want me to do. I'm 395 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: just gonna go out here and play like I'm playing 396 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a Tuesday afternoon with my buddies and see how it works. 397 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: And I like the swing swing look good. His putting 398 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: stroke looked terrific. He putted really well, and he thoughts 399 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: on Kevin Chapel. 400 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: Kevin Chappel looked I watched a little bit of the 401 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: coverage with Chapel and Jason Day on Sunday morning. Chapel 402 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: is hitting the ball great again. Friend of the podcast 403 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: Drew Stoltz remember at Whispered Chapels also remember that they 404 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: play a lot of golf, always rooting for him. Kind 405 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: of fits the mold of a type of player. I 406 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: like to take great ball striker, inconsistent putters. So Chapel 407 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: to me is someone that I'm pretty excited about. And 408 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: I certainly could see myself having exposure to like that 409 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: call quite a bit and hopefully he just has his 410 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: game back and just watching from you know, and I 411 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: think you can get some bias just from watching golf. 412 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: But was hitting the ball amazing off the tee and 413 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: was hitting some knockdown wedges that looked just dialed in, 414 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: So it was very encouraged from the form that I 415 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: saw from Chapel. 416 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna throw a couple of guys together 417 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: here because I kind of put them together as recent 418 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: college guys or college studs some success but not recently. 419 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: And that's Aaron Wise and Mav McNeely. Both guys with 420 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: a ton of talent. Both guys are going to be 421 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: around on the PGA to or for a long time 422 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: to come. 423 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: Both guys who. 424 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Haven't played great recently, but neither one of them would 425 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: surprise you if he contended for a title. Lot any 426 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: of these are either of these names on your radar 427 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: this week? 428 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: All right, so you hit the name that I was 429 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: going to talk about that I think is tremendous value 430 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: so far just from the research that I've done here. 431 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: That's Aaron Wise in terms of DFS, one of the 432 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: best golfers relative to their normal output on the tour, 433 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: in terms of finishing position relative to DFS points in 434 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 2: a good way. Aaron Wise makes a ton of birdies 435 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: and a ton of bogies are worse tons of these. 436 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: He is right up there, you know, consistently in that 437 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: top five, top ten weighted birdie average range, just doesn't 438 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: finish well because he has a lot of bogies on 439 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: his card and seems to make bigger numbers more than 440 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: other PGA Tour players. So I like Aaron Wise a 441 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: lot for DFS, just in a vacuum or most situations 442 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: because of the scoring that he has, throwing a weak field, 443 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: throwing a great tournament lifelat week at the Travelers but 444 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: made the cut, showed some promise at times. So I 445 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: think Aaron Wise makes a lot of sense in this 446 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: field and agree with you just oozing talent and at 447 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: some point we're going to see some value on him. 448 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: So I like first round leader bets on Aaron Wise. Potentially, 449 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: I like top fives, top tens to win. I think 450 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Wise is a really really strong play. Maverick McNeely 451 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: I haven't played as much, but certainly I've seen some 452 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: other sharps on him. I saw him in some cash 453 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 2: game teams of some of the top DFS players. So 454 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: McNeely is someone that I'm intrigued by and will definitely 455 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: be digging into. Do you have a preference out of 456 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: those two. 457 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: Guys probably McNeely based on recent form. Aaron Wise just 458 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: hasn't been very good lately. I'd rather go with McNeely. 459 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: His short game is very good. This is a place 460 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: where you're going to miss Green's. Matt McNeely is a 461 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: really good chipper and putter. I think that's going to 462 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: help him a little bit more. There's a ton of 463 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: value on both of those guys. We saw and talked 464 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: about Doc Redmond earlier, his odds moving down so much 465 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. These are guys who 466 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: are as talented, if not more talented than Redmond and 467 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: way lower on the board. 468 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: So I like each of those a couple more names 469 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: for you. I kind of like this game we're playing 470 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: right now, so I'm going to keep it going. 471 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: Wesley Bryan missed about a year and a half due 472 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: to injury, finally came back. 473 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: He's made okay. 474 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: He made the cut RBC Heritage, which is kind of 475 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: a homecoming for him. He's a South Carolina guy, won 476 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: that event a few years ago, but then hit the 477 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: ball really well. The Travelers this past week T twenty four, 478 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: are we're asking for too much too soon from Wes 479 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: Bryan or is that a decent play? 480 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: Well. I have such a soft spot in my heart 481 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: for Leslie Bryan was that Tiger Jam the year Tiger 482 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: couldn't make It couldn't have been more fun to be around. 483 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: We were betting at top golf, so much fun. He 484 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: was hilarious and just an awesome dude to hang around. 485 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: And you know, you hear the coverage between him and 486 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: you know, Bubba Watson at Heritage and and he's playing 487 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: good golf again. So I want to root for Wesley Brian. 488 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: I have not been on him from a DFS perspective, 489 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: but I am extremely biased and I actually throw throw 490 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: them in some line. So are you buying Leslie Bryant 491 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: this week? Yeah, a little bit. 492 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's like a twenty percent owed for me. 493 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I probably won't bet on him outright. I just don't think. 494 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's quite there yet. I don't 495 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: think he's ready to seriously contend yet. But obviously good 496 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: signs and there's some optimism moving forward. Here here's a 497 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: guy that I've liked the last five years, and I've 498 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: bet on that I've played, and it just it hasn't happened. 499 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna have the same career trajectory. 500 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: We're talking six seven years ago when they were both 501 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: playing the European Tour. 502 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: They were both buddies. 503 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Peter yu Line, I've been waiting for this guy to pop. 504 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: U've been waiting for this guy to turn into a 505 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: guy who is contending a weekly basis on the PGA Tour, 506 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: guy who was a top fifty player in the world. 507 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: That hasn't quite happened for him yet. He was fourteenth 508 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: at the Charles Schwab a few weeks ago in the 509 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: return after the shutdown. Peter Ulin's guy that I'm very 510 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: interested in moving forward. Not totally sold this week, but 511 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: you could probably sell me on him if you really 512 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: try thoughts on him both short term and long term. 513 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: Love the long term upside. I think another guy that 514 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: people don't realize how talented your line is. Certainly you 515 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 2: know you could make the case to be buying him 516 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: in the short term. I'll wait to see to get 517 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: a little more data. Was encouraged, like you mentioned, by 518 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: the finish of Charles Schwab. But yeah, I think that's 519 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: someone that is on my radar to watch, and that's 520 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: what's exciting, you know. I know a lot of people 521 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: aren't as excited about this tournament, given you know, we 522 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: don't have a star started field. I live for these tournaments. 523 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: I love the Puerto Rico Opens. I love tournaments like 524 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: this where you have to dig for value. I think 525 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: there's potentially even a little bit more edge in dfs 526 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: and in the betting markets. So I have a lot 527 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: of names like that that I'm looking at, and Ooh, 528 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: Line is someone that I think could definitely make a 529 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: charge in the world rankings and move up. I agree 530 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: with you. I thought he was going to have, you know, 531 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: I thought at this point he'd already have some wins 532 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: and be, you know, much higher in the rankings than 533 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: he currently is. But I will be watching to see 534 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: how he plays this season one here. 535 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I've got some serious unsexiness for this week. 536 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I said it was gonna get weird. 537 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: It's getting weird. With Taylor Gooch, Christopher Ventura. 538 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: Tom Hogy, Peter Malnady, Sam Burns, Adam Long, Brian Stewart, 539 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: who played really well here as a Michigan native he 540 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: was fifth last year. Tends to make a lot of cuts. 541 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: Is anybody on your radar out of those guys. 542 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam Long for sure is on my radar. Didn't 543 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: play well on Sunday last week of the Travelers, but 544 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: had a nice Saturday and is definitely someone that I'm 545 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: looking at in all formats. I think he makes a 546 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: lot of sense. And Taylor Gooch is someone else that 547 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: I think is kind of in that range. And I'll 548 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: throw a couple other names at you if you're interested 549 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: in either of the Ryan Armor what a Sunday played 550 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: great with Rory lit it up on the back nine. 551 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: Not a sexy name, not the guy you'd first look 552 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: at and say, Okay, let me watch guys on the range. Oh, 553 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Ryan Armor. But he's playing some good golf. 554 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: I think he's interesting. He's in that two underd to 555 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: one range. And then someone who's kind of the opposite 556 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: of Ryan Armor. I think you're not the opposite, But 557 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: who's this a little more talent. That's Sam Ryder, who 558 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: I think is another interesting pick. And you mentioned Burns. 559 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: All those guys I think are really interesting and certainly 560 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: sprinkles for me in DFS. What are your thoughts on 561 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: Armor and Rider? 562 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so Armor I don't play very often. If I'm 563 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: going to play him. I play him on a short 564 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: golf course. He hits the ball nowhere, but he's deadly accurate, 565 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: and so last week sort of made sense for him. 566 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: In fact, each of the last three events probably made 567 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: sense for Ryan Armer going back to the Midwest. He's 568 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: a Midwest guy that should probably help. So this course 569 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: is moderately long. It's like seventy two hundred plus yard, so, 570 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, not really a short one, not really a 571 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: long one, kind of in the middle there, so I 572 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: could probably be sold a little bit on armor. 573 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: But don't love him. 574 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: Sam Ryder is the guy that I've been on a lot. 575 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Last year was all over sam Ryder. I think he's 576 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: ready to win his first PGA Tour event. Haven't loved 577 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: him lately, And you know, as we're talking right here, 578 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up what Sam Ryder has done lately. 579 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a guy that I think has 580 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of talent. I always look at the 581 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: all around ranking last year. If you look at all around, 582 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: which is exactly what you would think it is, it 583 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: combines driving stats and ball striking stats, and chipping stats 584 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: and putting stats and puts them all into one number, 585 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: and basically what you get is a list of the 586 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: best players in the world, and you get near the 587 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: top Rory and JT and Rom and Bryson Keepka, and 588 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: it's exactly what you would think it would be. 589 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: But there's always a player. 590 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: On that list who I look at and say, huh, 591 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: that tells me that guy is just not getting enough 592 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: out of his game. And last year I believe Sam 593 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: Ryder was twentieth or twenty first on that list for 594 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: the entire season. So the fact that he does everything 595 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: well I think speaks to what he can bring to 596 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: the game. That said, last three starts since the return, 597 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: he's got a T forty one at Harbortown and two 598 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: missed cuts at Travelers and the sh That doesn't. 599 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: Really tell me a whole lot. 600 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Although going back you look at some of his best finishes, 601 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: and back in the Safeway Open in twenty eighteen he 602 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: was forty fifth, twenty eighth, going in forty third at 603 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the cimb came back third at the Shriners in Vegas, 604 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: then earlier this year finished third in Puerto Rico. Coming 605 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: into that he went miscut, fifty fifth miscut and so 606 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: He's a guy that tends to pop without having a 607 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: whole lot of recent results to his name. So again, 608 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: I like sam Ryder long term. 609 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: I think I feel probably the same way about him this. 610 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Week as you feel about you line, which is yeah, 611 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: long terarm I like him short term. 612 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love him this week. But yeah, Sam 613 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: Ryder's guy that's definitely at least on my radar. Yeah, 614 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: he's on my radar two and that one hundred and 615 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: fifty to one range. The recent form hasn't been great, 616 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: but he's right there. I'll throw out one other name 617 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: that I should have mentioned that has played well this year. 618 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: Great story, Harold Barner. I think it's another play that 619 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: just makes a ton of sense. You know, he's getting 620 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: up into kind of the top tier in this tournament. 621 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: He's six to six to one, identical odds on DraftKings 622 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: to Branson Edecker. But so far this year in the 623 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty season, twenty fourth overall in strokes game has 624 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: played really well, you know, to start out weeks. So 625 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 2: Haerl Varner is someone that I am very interested in. 626 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: If he can finally put it together on a Sunday, 627 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: he could definitely win this tournament. So those those are 628 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: kind of the names that I'm looking at for this week, 629 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: and again, encourage you guys to line shop and it 630 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: should be a great week for DFS if you love 631 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: digging into the weeds on some of these non household 632 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: names on the PGA tour. 633 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I'll say about Varner and he 634 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of scares people off a little bit because he 635 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: plays so well on Thursday and Friday and usually fades 636 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: a little bit on the weekend. And I know that 637 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the general public and especially the betting 638 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: public will look at a guy like that and say, 639 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: oh man, all these negative experiences. You know, it's it's 640 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: not coming together for him. I'm telling you the way 641 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the players look at the way I've always looked at this. 642 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: I talk about it a lot, Peter, is that. 643 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Anytime you get into some semblance of contention, anytime you 644 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: get onto the leaderboard, even if you don't play well 645 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: on the weekend, that's just one more experience you can bank. 646 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: You can throw that in your mental bank and you 647 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: can say, next time I'm in this situation, I'm going 648 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: to deal with it better. And so the more Harold 649 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: Varner at least gets into these final pairings on the weekend, 650 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: at least is feeling the heat of contention. The better 651 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: off he's going to be moving forward. So I know 652 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people will look at him and say, 653 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: you know what, he always gets to the weekend, he 654 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: doesn't play well, I'm not going to take him. At 655 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: some point he's gonna put it all together. He's gonna 656 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: play well on the weekend too. So he's a guy that, yes, 657 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: I can see that happening for him this week as well. 658 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: It's funny. 659 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one more thing, and I talked about 660 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Sam Ryder in relation to the all around ranking. I 661 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: have to just click it right now to see kind 662 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: of what the names look like. 663 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a who's who. 664 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: It goes starts with Rom and goes Can't Lee Bryson, 665 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: DJ Webb, Rory Berger, Adam Scott, Woodland, Scheffler, had we 666 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'll go down with J T. Hideki 667 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: some Jay Hovlin, Morikawa, Shaffley, answer Hatten. I mean that 668 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: is like basically nineteen of the best players in the 669 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: world right there. The guy who's twentieth right now, which 670 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: is right where Sam Ryder was last year, which shows 671 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: he does everything well. 672 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: Is a guy whose name we have mentioned already, and 673 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: that's Doc Redmond. 674 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: So if you're not jumping on the Doc Redmond train, 675 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe this can change your mind a little bit and 676 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: sway you the fact that Doc Redmond obviously does everything 677 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: pretty well to be up there with all those names in. 678 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: The all around rankings. Yeah, Doc Redman, we'll see how 679 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: his ownership is this week. I think he's a really 680 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: strong play and is playing awesome golf and I would 681 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: not be surprised to see him near the top of 682 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: the leader board, and he's already getting respect in the 683 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: betty market. So Doc Redman, strong play and certainly the 684 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: guy that I think will have the most respecting betty 685 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: markets in DFS relative to kind of the household name 686 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: awareness that most golf fans have. 687 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: All right, So I want to get to our DFS lineup. 688 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: We are in full disclosure recording on Monday morning. Peter 689 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: and I usually record on Monday evening we're able to 690 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: see the DFS prices. 691 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: Peter's got a little. 692 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: Staycation going on, so we want to record early and 693 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: make sure we could get this to you guys as 694 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: early as possible. So you had a few days to 695 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: get a chance to listen and hear what we had 696 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: to say. That said we're going against a little bit 697 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: and that we don't have the DFS prices out yet, 698 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: so we're gonna make our DraftKings line up without the prices. 699 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: But you and I are pretty good at this stuff. 700 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: We can probably figure out. You know, we're not just 701 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: gonna take the top six guys on the board. We're 702 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna make a lineup that should be able to fit 703 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: under the salary cap. So, just based on everything we've 704 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: talked about here, I'll give you the first pick off 705 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: the top end. 706 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: Who are you starting your DFS lineup with? All right, 707 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: let's start towards the top, and I'm with you. Sunjay 708 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: is undervalued. I'm torn between Sung Jay and Victor Hobblin. 709 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: Those are two of the guys that are standing out 710 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: to me in a big way. I imagine those guys 711 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: will come in kind of like the seventh eighth ranked 712 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: in terms of price, So I think you can definitely 713 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: build a balance lineup with them, or you could potentially 714 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: fit both, you know, in your lineup. So I'll go 715 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: some day to start I think he was playing amazing 716 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: before the layoff and the miscut and then just not 717 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: a great weekend. It's going to keep some people off him. 718 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Some Jay can get it going. You know, the putter 719 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: is a huge thing for him. He's one of the 720 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: best ball strikers on tour and in this field. Would 721 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: not surprise me to see some Jay get his second 722 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: win of the season. Yeah, I like it a lot. 723 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: There aren't very many young players that I would think 724 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: could get a second win this quickly, But some Jay's 725 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: that kind of talent that I have no problem going 726 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: back to him. 727 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: So like some Jay a lot. 728 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned Snedeker's record on Donald Ross courses. I think 729 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: he is undervalued this week. There's not a whole lot 730 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: of decent names that are undervalued because the field isn't 731 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: what the last three of them were, and so it's 732 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: hard to find a guy who's not priced high enough. 733 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: But I think Brandt Snedeker is flying under the radar, 734 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: has a great record on those Donald Ross courses. 735 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw Snedecker in there. I'll go Doc Redman, 736 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: who you're just talking about before. I expect him to 737 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: be in the eight k range. Maybe he ends up 738 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: a little bit higher like the hiights. If he's nine thousand, 739 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: that that would be a little surprising, but maybe given 740 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: the weakness in the field. But Doc Redman doing so 741 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: many things while you mentioned that all around you know, 742 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: ranking and if you just start digging into stats, Doc 743 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Redman is doing things exceptionally well and has played better 744 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: than people realize. So Doc Redman, I think is going 745 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: to be one of my favorite DFS plays this week, 746 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: assuming he's in that AK range. 747 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that a lot, and I think that 748 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: we have to probably start going a little bit lower. 749 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Now no problem in. 750 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: This's without the pricing, but there's plenty of options. And 751 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, you and I did our scouting. We were 752 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: both watching the early streaming coverage on Sunday. As we 753 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: mentioned before, I would hate to do all that scouting 754 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: and not go with the scouting tip. If you do 755 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: your scouting and you like the guy you saw, you 756 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: got to go pick him and Kevin Chapple's guy that 757 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: you and I both liked what we saw from him 758 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: playing with Jason Day on Sunday morning on that early 759 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: streaming coverage, and you know, hopefully the scouting is going 760 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: to pay off here. 761 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: Love that pick, and again if he can get the 762 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: putter going, which I'll bank on some variants there. Every 763 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: single week his ball striking is off, the t game 764 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: is very strong. So love that pick, and I'm going 765 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: to go with someone else that we taught, I talked 766 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: about right right off the start, and that's Will Gordon. 767 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: Great form obviously last week. A ton of talent. It's 768 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: a ton of talent. Hits the ball really long way, 769 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: love a swing. I think Will Gordon has a chance 770 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: to be a mainstay on the PGA Tour and has 771 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: upside to win given his length. So Will Gordon in 772 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: this field, I'm putting them on our team. 773 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I know it's early in the week, but what kind 774 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: of ownership percentage would you expect for Will Gordon on 775 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: DFS this week? 776 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: Five percent? Maybe somewhere, that's all. Yeah, is more than that, 777 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: And maybe I'm wrong on that take, but I think 778 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: there's some other names that people will go to ahead 779 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: of Will Gordon. There's some names that people will recognize 780 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: versus Will Gordon. But yeah, the hardcore DFS community maybe 781 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: will be on Will Gordon more than I. 782 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: Everybody likes the bright, new shiny thing. They got a 783 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: new Toy and Will Gordon. They want to play with 784 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: it this week. I think he's gonna be a little 785 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: bit higher. 786 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: If he's higher than that, i'll be fading him. But 787 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: for now, under the assumption I like Will Gordon. I 788 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: think he has upside. 789 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we've got one more spot left here. We've got 790 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: some jam Brandt Snedeker, Doc Redmond, Kevin Chappel. 791 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: Will Gordon is not out yet. It's a good team. 792 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: Based on your expertise, will Patrick Reid fit into this lineup? 793 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: Under the cap I was gonna say, you have you 794 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: have money to spend for sure, Patrick Reid is probably 795 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: gonna be ten thousand Patrick Reid and then a contingency 796 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: that's okay, the best way to do it. Patrick Reid 797 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: is in it if we can afford him. 798 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: And if we can't and we have to go a 799 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: little bit lower, how about I'll go with the guy 800 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: that that you like either an all or nothing play 801 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: and Aaron Wise, like I said, hasn't played great recently, 802 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: but he's got a ton of talent. This kind of 803 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: reminds me of the Nelson back at Trinity when Wise 804 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: one a few years ago, uh Detroit Golf Club's got 805 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of that to it, not a lot, 806 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: but a little bit of that. And I could see 807 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: him playing well again this week. So it's either Read 808 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: or Wise at the end of our lineup. And uh, 809 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: and so that would go Sun, jam Brandt, Snedecker, Doc Redmond, 810 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Chappel, Will. 811 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: Gordon and Read or Wise. You like that team, love 812 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: that team, and one guy just throw out not that 813 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: not he's not on our team, but you're looking for 814 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: DFS play. I think Rory Sabatini for cash games makes 815 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: less sense. 816 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: So, uh, give me, give me a fade this week. 817 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Give me one guy you don't like that you're off. 818 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: I have feeling it might be. 819 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: The same guy that I'm I'm fading as well. Yeah, 820 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: well Speek isn't in the field and he keeps burning 821 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: me with making cuts. And I'm rooting for Speech, you know, 822 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: because I think it makes just like DJ winning Speech 823 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: winning would be great for the tour. In terms of 824 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 2: a fade this week, Uh, it's a it's a tricky week, 825 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: but I guess I'd fade Ricky Fowler talk about the 826 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: nicest guy in for everyone raised about him. He's clearly 827 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: doing it for the fans has not shown great for 828 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: him coming off, and just the name value, you know, 829 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: Ricky's right there at thirty to one. Straight up, I 830 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: think I would rather play, you know, a savag team, 831 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: maybe even a Lucas Glover like Doc Redmand versus Ricky 832 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: Folller in a matchup. I'm very curious to see where 833 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: I had price that. And of course Ricky Fowler is 834 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: going to have a lot more name recognition. So in 835 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: terms of a fade, I'm gonna go with Ricky Fowler. 836 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: Is your guy, Bubba that you're fading or where are 837 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: you going? No, I told you we're gonna have the 838 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: same guy. I knew you were going with Ricky, and 839 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: that's my. 840 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Fad as well. There are certain times and certain players, 841 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: in certain situations where guys playing for their title sponsors. 842 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: I love playing. 843 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound weird, but when the 844 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: title sponsor is also the sponsor for a player, there's 845 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: certain players that react really well to it. 846 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: Web Simpson at the Windom. 847 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: Every year is a guy that I love taking because 848 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: he loves playing for his guys and he wants to 849 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: go out there and impress them and kind of show 850 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: off for him Justin Rose at the Zurich for many 851 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: years was a good play because he loves kind of 852 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: showing the Zurich guys what he can do. Ricky Fowler, 853 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: I feel like is playing the Rocket Mortgage because he's 854 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: sponsored by Rocket Mortgage and would have preferred to be 855 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: at the Travelers last week. 856 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 2: I believe that's where he started his career. 857 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: At the Travelers, they always give young players a chance 858 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: to play, and he had to skip that one in 859 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: order to play this one. He was t forty six 860 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: last year. I just can't imagine it's a course that 861 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: fits him. Can't imagine it really fits in his schedule. 862 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: I think he's only there because he's got the sponsorship 863 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: tie in, and I never like it when the guy 864 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: sort of has to play as opposed to wanting to 865 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: play and wanting to be there. So I think Ricky 866 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: Fowler is the fade for me as well. 867 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: This week, Peter, we're on the same fade, and he's 868 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: definitely going to garner some ownership. And I think people 869 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: looking to this field, you know, and need to look 870 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: at the mainstream golf covers are going to be talking 871 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: about Ricky a lot, and for the sake of the game. 872 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 2: I hope he does well, but for batting and DFS, 873 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm not going to have much exposure. 874 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: So we're onto some of these names that aren't a 875 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: sexy but certainly could have some value this week. So 876 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: hopefully good luck to us. 877 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck to us, good luck to you guys 878 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: out there. This should be a fun week, Rocket mortgage classic. 879 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's gonna get weird. We're gonna have 880 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: maybe another Nate Lashley at the top. 881 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: So dig deep, get into the weeds. 882 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Find your guys. 883 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: He's Peter Jennings. 884 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Soble. 885 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Here's hoping you guys put the green. 886 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 2: We're finished talking