1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Lyle. Just a reminder that I am 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: going on tour to do therapy Gecko live in several 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: cities across the United States, and I would love to 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: see you there. I will be interviewing random folks from 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the audience up on stage and absolutely anything could happen. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: It will be very fun, very terrifying, and very geko wee. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: You can find the link to get tickets in your 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: city in the episode description. Okay, let's get into the podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: how are you? 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Uh? You know, I'm pretty amazed I got in. I 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: know everyone says. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: That, but well, here's the thing. Somebody who's going to 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: get in? So why not you? 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: Hmm my thoughts exactly. That's why I spammed the call. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I guess what's going on with you, Tristan? 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: Well, so I know you only usually pick one thing 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: to talk about, So I either wanted to talk to 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: you about my hypochondria that stems from a bad mushroom 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: trip years ago, or I kind of been going through 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: a rough time lately, moving cities and having to break 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: up with my fiance. 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: So what hypochondria is when you when you think that 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: you are ill all the time, correct, right. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So. 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: I was experimenting with a lot of psychedelics, mushrooms, d MT, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: and I was having a pretty good time. I know, 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: I know, psychedelics don't really cause the issues, they kind 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: of bring them out of people. And I guess I 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: had some hidden anxiety, well, a lot of hitting anxiety 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: about death. I guess that I didn't really know how 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: to cope with. So I wasn't aware of when I 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: took some some honestly a low dose of mushrooms, and 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: I think I was, you know, this isn't really diagnosed, 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: this is more of a self diagnosis, but I mean 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: I felt like I went into what you could call 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: a psychosis for maybe six months afterwards. 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: What kind of psychoses? 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Well, see, I guess you know, so after the mushroom trip, 39 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: I thought every day afterwards, for six months straight, I 40 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: thought I was gonna die every day, and I thought 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: I thought the mushrooms were poisoned, and I thought I 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: had fungus growing in my head. And it was really, honestly, 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: really really really tough. 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: To deal with. 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: And I went to I went to multiple I spent 46 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: a lot of money because of my hypochondria. 47 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: You were about to say, you went to multiple. 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I went to multiple for the first thing. I 49 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: went to multiple doctors, neurologists. I've had CT scans on 50 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: my head, I had you know, X rays, I had 51 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: some talks with therapists, and there's there was nothing wrong 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: with me, absolutely nothing wrong with me. It was all 53 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: just anxiety. But I've dealt with that anxiety in my 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: own way. I never I don't see a therapist now, 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: and the therapist I saw, I felt like, didn't really 56 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: help me too much. I kind of took it in 57 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: my own hands and I think I'm doing pretty good 58 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: with it, but it still bugged me, like right now, 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: and I know it's ridiculous, but right now I feel 60 00:03:53,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: like I have rabies. I know, I know RABI takes 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: a long time to present itself. And if I if 62 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: I fix it, if I fixate on something like say 63 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: I might think I have rabies, I tend to see 64 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: it and everything around me, or like if I'm watching 65 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: a show or a movie or I read something and 66 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: they bring up rabies. I mean, it just floods my 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: head with like that. 68 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Here again, So you went to a therapist for this? 69 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: No, Initially I did. This was I'm twenty six. Now, 70 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: this happened maybe when I was twenty two. 71 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: So you said initially that sixah, Okay. 72 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was well, I mean I 73 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: think I guess I wasn't really like one hundred percent 74 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: with them, to be honest with you, because I felt 75 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: like I've had I don't know, I felt I kind 76 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: of felt like they were a little condescending, and I 77 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: felt like I was when I was younger. I thought 78 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: I was going to be judged more for doing you know, 79 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: I thought they were going to blame it all on 80 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: the drugs, the psychedelics. 81 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so you thought that they were condescending. What what 82 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: exactly did they say or do to make you feel 83 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: like they were condescending? 84 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 2: Well, the lady I went to, you know, I probably 85 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: went to the wrong the lady I went to kind 86 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: of like was trying to get me to draw pictures about. 87 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: How I felt. 88 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: Okay then, and I thought I thought that was a 89 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: little childish. I don't know, maybe, I mean, you know, 90 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm not a therapist, so but I kind of thought 91 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: that was like maybe a little you know, like I 92 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: thought I was being treated more like a kid. 93 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. You know, I'm not a therapist either, and 94 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I I I guess I would agree with you that 95 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: that that that I could see why you would feel 96 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: like that's ineffective. 97 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: I did. 98 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: I've talked to a billion people who they go to 99 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: therapy like once and my fucking myself a clue to man, 100 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: where like, they go to therapy once and it doesn't 101 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: work out for them, and so they quit all together. 102 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I did the same thing, currently, the same thing. But 103 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: you have an issue you and it's funny, it's it's 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: interesting to me because you are aware, like you know 105 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: this is hypochondria, because you know that you are a hypochondriac, 106 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: Like you know that you have this issue. You're self 107 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: aware about it, and you wouldn't be calling me to 108 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: talk to me about your hypochondria if you weren't aware 109 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: about it. But yet while you are simultaneously self aware, 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: fully aware that you have hypochondria, fully aware that you 111 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: over analyze and have high anxiety about you know, knowing 112 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: that it's ridiculous that you have think you have rabies, 113 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Yet it sounds like that does not help you with 114 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you have anxiety about having raveies. 115 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: No, and you know any little medical so I'm okay with, 116 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: like if I broke my finger, any physical pain, I'm 117 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: okay with. But when it becomes internal, well, the rabiest 118 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: thing is just I mean, I know, the rabiest thing 119 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: is just kind of crazy, to be honest with you. 120 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: But anything like, I know, I had a stomach pain 121 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: that was I found out was related to blanking. 122 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 5: Gee, what is it? 123 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: Erd? 124 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: It's just like an over production of acid, stomach acid. 125 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, for a month, I was obsessing that 126 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: I might have had I might have like stomach cancer, 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: and I would I mean I would lie awake at 128 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: night and just like think I was gonna die, and 129 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: I go get all these crazy the tests, you know, 130 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: like X ray CT scans. You know, when I feel 131 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: like I feel like, you know, normal people kind of 132 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: just like deal with it or they take some medicine 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: and they're cool with it. And then I always seem 134 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: to like go to these extreme measures and it hasn't 135 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: really affected my relationships too much, I think, besides, you know, 136 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: them thinking that maybe I'm a little crazy. 137 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Interesting. I uh again, I know I said this just now, 138 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:40,359 Speaker 1: But the contradiction of you knowing and stating how ridiculous 139 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: this is, but that self awareness not helping you curb 140 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: your anxiety is very fascinating to me. 141 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't because, like I said, so, I mean 142 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: the rabies thing came about maybe like two or three 143 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: months ago, and so I think by now I would 144 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: have been dead if I had rabies. But you know, 145 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: it's just like I got a small scratch from an 146 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: outside cat that wasn't acting weird at all. Yeah, and 147 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: as but I saw that little bit of blood out 148 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: of my skin, and then the rabies fere just takes 149 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: over me because one time. You know, it's hard for 150 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: me too. I can't really be around people who talk 151 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: about medical issues that might be life threatening, yeah, if 152 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: they're not, unless it's like because if they say a symptom, 153 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: my mind focuses on that symptom and I'll get a 154 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: little crazy about it, you know. I mean, like nowadays, 155 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: I think I'm okay keeping it internally, but I mean 156 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: I'll just like sixty eight over fixate over something like that, 157 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: and I kind of just like I'm just out of it, 158 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: you know. I Mean I just have this like like 159 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: my nurse friend told me about the rabies not showing 160 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: for three months, So after that, I got scratched by 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: the cat, and then then it's a downward spiral from there. 162 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Forgive me if any 163 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: the questions I ask about this thing are ignorant because 164 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, and they'll come from a 165 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: genuine curiosity. So you are are out here, you know, 166 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: you said you spend a lot of money on doctors, Uh, 167 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, trying like getting scans, making sure you don't 168 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: have rabies, making sure you don't have gourd and whatnot. 169 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, all these all these sort of things that 170 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: you're anxious about possibly having. But yet you're again fully 171 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: self aware that you are are are are a hypochondriac, 172 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: and that the thing that you actually know for sure 173 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: that that you do have wrong with you, that you're 174 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: a hypochondriac. Sounds like it's the one thing that you 175 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: are not spending a lot of money going to doctors 176 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: to well instead of instead of the rabies and whatnot. 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: You know, the one's ever really put put it that 178 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: way to me before. Yeah, that's unord percent true. 179 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 6: Uh hmm, well I think you're right, So maybe it 180 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 6: comes no go ahead. 181 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: I was about to say, maybe maybe maybe it comes 182 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: from a place of I don't know, maybe because I 183 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: feel like I know I have hypochondria, I don't know, 184 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 185 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, next time, kit, would you do 186 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: you think you have it in you too? Next time 187 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, I'm pretty sure I have rabies. 188 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I'm pretty sure I've gird o. Shit, I'm 189 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure I have whatever the thing is you think 190 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: you have. Instead of you know, directing your attention to 191 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: going to a doctor to make sure you don't have that, 192 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: you like think you know, you think a higher level 193 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: step up to be like, oh shit, this is actually 194 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: a legitimate symptom of a thing I actually have, which 195 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: is this hypochondria. Let's go make sure we're dealing with that. 196 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Do I think I have an enemy to do that? 197 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question. 198 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why it's so hard to say yes, 199 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, Well. 200 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Because I know you had this experience with the fucking 201 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: kindergarten teacher therapist and that maybe turned you off, which 202 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I get, dude. But I'll say this, and I say 203 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: this hypocritically because I myself I have not gone to 204 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: therapy probably shuit, but because I also have had experiences 205 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: where I've been in therapy and been like, what the 206 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: fuck is fucking is this shit? But I've talked to 207 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: so many people on the show and in real life 208 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: that they're like, I went to a therapist, he was terrible, 209 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: they maybe draw fucking pictures. Went to another therapist, they 210 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: didn't listen to me. Went to another therapist, they didn't 211 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: help me it all the way. To another therapist, they 212 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: were super unhelpful. Went to another therapist, they made it worse. 213 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Went to another therapist, changed my life, never felt better 214 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: type of shit. I hear that all the time of people. 215 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: They just have to go through a billion different people. 216 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: So I I, you know, and again I'm saying this 217 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: super hypocritically because I haven't done it myself. But dude, 218 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, if felin if you're having this legitimate issue, 219 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like it could help you to, 220 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, find find a legitimate help for it. 221 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I guess it's just the constant, 222 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: like you know, like you find a therapist, they don't 223 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: work out for you, and then you try again and 224 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't work out for you, and then maybe you 225 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: try a third time and it doesn't work out for 226 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: you and then you're kind of just over it. 227 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: I guess, like I said, you know, I guess I 229 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: take maybe some pride in dealing with it myself. Oh okay, 230 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: you know I you know, so like after the six 231 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: months of like really I mean, I mean I was 232 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: really crazy if I look back on it. I mean, 233 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: after the six months of like literally just balling my 234 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: eyes out every day because I thought I was going 235 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: to die, I hit I hit a point where I 236 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: and that was after like they couldn't find anything wrong 237 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: with me, you know, after that point, I kind of 238 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: I joined martial arts, and I try to lose weight, 239 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: and I try to get my mind right through that, 240 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: and I try to read, and I try to study 241 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: myself and and I'm always trying to be introspective. But 242 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: it's just always seems to be the one hump I 243 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: can't get over. But I don't know, maybe I kind 244 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: of wear it like a you know, like a how 245 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: do I want to say it, like a scarred badge? 246 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, the whole you know, I can handle it 247 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: myself kind of thing. I don't need to fucking go 248 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: to therapy. I don't need anyone to help me. 249 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: Right, I got it. 250 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: Right. 251 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: And I think problems like if you're depressed or if 252 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: you're anxious, you know, mostly everyone today is pretty much 253 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's stuff, even though it really 254 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: sucks to deal with, helps you to relate to other people. 255 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that front, that it 256 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: helps you to relate to other people. That's that's I mean, 257 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: weirdly part of the reason why I like why I 258 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: like doing the shows because I like talking to people 259 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: about I mean, just in my personal life, I have 260 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: a weird fascination with like if I'm like looking at 261 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: people just in my regular life, like and being like, 262 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them? What is their what's their fucking deal? 263 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Because everyone everyone's got a deal. You know, you stand 264 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: in line in fucking Walmart and you go up to 265 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the cash people natural hershey bar, and you're like, what's 266 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: this what's this guy's deal? What were you gonna say? 267 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask, do people naturally just 268 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: open up to. 269 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: You sometimes in life? 270 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 271 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it was just in Mexico, is the. 272 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: Get go persona a little different than the real live persona? 273 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: No, I I was gonna say it was just in 274 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Mexico and I met a bunch of people at a hostel. 275 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: I felt like I got into some interesting conversations there, 276 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: just out of like a again, like a natural weird 277 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: curiosity of like what the fuck is going on with 278 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: people because it helps inform my own what the fuck 279 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: is going on with me type of thing, right. 280 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: Right, But it does seem to me that you're wha. 281 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking to you right now. You're very 282 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: easy to talk to, and I think that probably does 283 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: come across really well in real life. And I wanted 284 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: to say, you know, I live in Florida and I 285 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: really wanted to go to your Miami show, but I 286 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: don't think I can make it. So I'm bummed out. 287 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Are you not going because you're afraid that you'll catch COVID? 288 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: You know, I've actually had COVID three times and I 289 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: wasn't too worried about that for some reason. 290 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, now that's fascinating to me because it's okay, 291 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Can I just say it's I it's a little bit 292 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: funny that, like the thing that's on the news every 293 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: single day that's like, oh, everyone's getting fucking dying from 294 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: this thing. Everyone's gonna get this thing like didn't phase 295 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: you at all, but like it's a niche type of 296 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: thing that like rabies, that's what gets you. That's interesting. 297 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. I really don't know why 298 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: that is. I don't know. It's because I actually have it. 299 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: I have to deal with it. I made you know 300 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: what it is. You know what it probably is, Lyle 301 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: is It's probably a fear of the unknown and probably 302 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: a fear of lack of control. 303 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: Interesting have you? Is that a realization that you have 304 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: have kind of always known under the underneath the surface. 305 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: I know then the unknown might have kind of hit 306 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: me just now. But the lack of control, I know 307 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: I have an issue with that. And I know the 308 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: biggest lack of control in your life is pretty much 309 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: how and when you die. 310 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a thing that you just have to 311 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: come to terms with. You unfortunately cannot beat that. 312 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: Right, And I guess I haven't quite come to terms 313 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: with it yet, even though even though I want to 314 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: pretend I do. You know, hm, you know, I think 315 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: all the silly stuff, like you know, there's not going 316 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: to be a tomorrow. You've got to live your fullest 317 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: to you know today, I mean silly in the sense 318 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: that like when I say things, I don't know if 319 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: I actually believe it, or like you know, oh it's 320 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, you die some day, or it's going to 321 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: be all right because you die some day, or you 322 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: know stuff like that. 323 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's an interesting well you know what the well, Okay, 324 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. You know what I think is, 325 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sa I'm gonna use this word. I think 326 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: is the cool thing about that problem. I don't know 327 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: if cool is the right word, but it is. 328 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: The word problem. 329 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: No, not the hypochondria, but just the coming to I 330 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: guess I guess that you consider it as part of 331 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the hyper country. The coming to terms with the with 332 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: the fact that you're going to die. Is what I 333 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: like about that problem is every sing person that has 334 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: ever fucking lived, every single person that is around you, 335 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: every single person that ever has lived. I was gonna 336 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: say I ever will live. That might not be the case, 337 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: but just everyone, every single fucking person has to deal 338 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: with it. It's like, if there is one thing that 339 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: every fucking living thing has in common, it's that. And 340 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: I weirdly find that kind of beautiful that we all 341 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: have that problem, whether we are rich, poor, whatever fucking 342 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: whatever our life has been, like, however old we are, 343 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: we all have that problem, and I find that kind 344 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: of beautiful. That's been my personal way of addressing that, 345 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: is like, oh, this thing is really scary, but it 346 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: is also the thing that connects me to every other 347 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: human being on the planet. 348 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: So when you you know, whe awake and I even 349 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: think of dying, does that make you feel more comfortable, 350 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: just more comfortable with the idea, or more connected to everybody? 351 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: Because I think, well, let me hear your answer first. Actually, 352 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: now tell me. 353 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: About tell me what you think. I need time to 354 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: think about what question? 355 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: Because I think, you know, maybe and maybe this goes 356 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: back to the hypochondria and the fear of it. Maybe 357 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be so scared if I felt like that 358 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: connected us more. But I always feel like, you know, 359 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: you kind of die individually, regardless of what happens afterwards. 360 00:21:52,000 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: And I, you know, the I guess I'm sitting on 361 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: a blank now, but you know, I guess it's never 362 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: been a real comfort to me that we all have 363 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: that connection, or we all have that connection. 364 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: Is it something you've even because when people asked you 365 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, well, I just say. 366 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: You know, when people when people die, I mean, maybe 367 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: it's the outlook that everyone says about it, you know, 368 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: because regardless of what people believe, and when people other 369 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: people die, they know, they're like, you know, I mean, 370 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: we're going to miss that person forever. There's a lot 371 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: of crying, but it's never really like, you know, hooray. 372 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying it should be like this, 373 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: but hooray they're dead. 374 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: You know. 375 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's all negative views around it, like horrible tragedy, 376 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: regardless of age. 377 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, have you like this idea that it is a 378 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: thing that connects us all, this idea that it's a 379 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: thing that gives life value at all? Really? 380 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: Is that? 381 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: Is that an idea that you've sat with at all? 382 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: You know? 383 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: I asked that genuinely, that that does that? 384 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: Does death give life value? 385 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 386 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does. Well, it does give value, 387 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: of course, yes, But I guess, well, maybe then the 388 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: lack of fear is too. Besides the lack of control 389 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: is maybe I just don't feel like I've lived my 390 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: life super well yet. M hm. 391 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 392 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I think I got things going on, 393 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: go ahead. Well, sometimes I think I have things going 394 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: on right, and you know, and then something you know, well, 395 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: like all all the time in life, something comes out 396 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: of nowhere, or you know, things happen in your life 397 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: that aren't very good, and you kind of just like 398 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: and I still know where I'm at right now, I go, 399 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, think things kind of just you think you're 400 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: doing well and then you're not. 401 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: What is your uh the question I was gonna asked 402 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: was you said, you feel like the scary thing is okay, 403 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: maybe you're not living your life well enough. What what 404 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: does your life look like when you are living it? 405 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: Well, Well, it's I know what it's not. It's not. 406 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to say, you know, just living comfort. 407 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: You know, actually, ile, if I lived my life well, 408 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: it would be probably you know, somewhere in a mountain 409 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: in a cabin or something. 410 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a mountain in a cabin, I think. So. 411 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing though, I'm not very like 412 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: a handsy type of dude. So maybe with some electricity, 413 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that. 414 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: You're tried living and hopefully. 415 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully a family. Have I tried living in the mountains? 416 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: Now? 417 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: Why not? 418 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: If? 419 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: If that is if that is the true answer, to 420 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: that question, right. 421 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if it is the true answer. I'm 422 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: not sure. 423 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: All right, well you said you all right, well can 424 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: I bring this up? You said that you know what 425 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: it's not. 426 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: Huh, Well, what it's not is I think I don't 427 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: know what it's not. I was gonna say what it's 428 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: not is being happy all the time, because I don't 429 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: think anyone can be happy. 430 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: All the time. 431 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: So I think that that's kind of like, you know, 432 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: I say that because when when when you ask people 433 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: what do you what do you want from life or 434 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: anything like that, they always say I just want to 435 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: be happy. But I don't think that lasts often. I mean, 436 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: by the ways that make you happy of course. 437 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm totally with you on that. By the way, 438 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: I I think, you know, there's a gigantic spectrum of 439 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: emotions to experience, and I wouldn't say happiness is more 440 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: important than any of the others. So I you know, 441 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I understand what you say when you're saying that. 442 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: Do you mind? I mean, I don't want to take 443 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: up too much of your time. I know you have 444 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: all the other colors, but do you mind if I've 445 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: met to you about another issue real quick. 446 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Hmm, sure, what is it? 447 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: Is? It is? 448 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: It? 449 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: Is it kind of related to what you've been talking about. 450 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, I guess I might another unknown in my life 451 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: at the moment, sort of sort of you know, sort of. 452 00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 5: What is that? 453 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: Well? And maybe I don't know if I'm making the 454 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: best choices because I thought this. I thought what I was, 455 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: what I what I set out to do now would 456 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: make me, against my own advice, a little bit happier. 457 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, but I don't. 458 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: But you know, I got so I got one of 459 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: a dream job offer for me, and I was supposed 460 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: to marry this woman that I love and next year 461 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: in October. And before I accepted the job, before I 462 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: went to go get it, I asked if she would 463 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: move with me, and she said she would, And then 464 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: when I got the job, she refused to move with me, 465 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: and so we kind of, I mean, it just seemed 466 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: like it just ended all at once, and I decided 467 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: to go to this job. But now that I'm in 468 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: the new apartment and you know what, I start work 469 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: very soon, I just struggle with if you know, another 470 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: another unknown in life, Like you know, when things are 471 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: going good and sometimes things go bad, and I feel 472 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: like I should be over the moon and really happy 473 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: right now, we're at least excited, and it's just like 474 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: kind of stuck in the depression of it, I guess, 475 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: and I don't know if I make the right If 476 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: I made the right. 477 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Decision, the decision to move, well, to. 478 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: Move and to take a new job over spending possibly 479 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: forever with somebody love. 480 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Well, can I ask, what what is it that made 481 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: you want to make the decision? 482 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want to when I was living with her. 483 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: Her mom was also living there and there, and so 484 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: is her sister, and I'm not I you know, it 485 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: was okay, but I wanted to like go out and 486 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: start our own thing. And also I didn't want to 487 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: stick around in a place i'm at kind of get 488 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 2: a job just to have a job, especially if I 489 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to do something in an industry I've 490 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: been a part of forever. You know, I would like 491 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: to wake up and not be miserable to go to 492 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: work every day. 493 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: I brother, I think that's a very good reason to me. 494 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: I think that's I think it's a very good reason 495 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: to make that decision. 496 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: You know. 497 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: If anything, you know, whether or not you believe the 498 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: decision worked out. You made it with a with a 499 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: with a pretty damn good reason what you just said, 500 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: especially when we're in consideration of of you know, all this, 501 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: all these things that we've been talking about for the 502 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: amount of time we've been talking about, you know, appreciating 503 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: the value of life and wanting to do good things 504 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: with it. I mean, I mean you maybe maybe not consciously, 505 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: but you made that decision with that in mind, that 506 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to improve your life, and you felt as 507 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: though the move would improve your life, and so you've 508 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: you made that decision, right, and so now you're at 509 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: this job. But the problem is that this girl left you, right. 510 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought, you know, I don't want to 511 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: tear up over the phone. I guess I just haven't 512 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: really talked about it with anybody. But you know, it 513 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: sucks when you think, you know, somebody's has your back, 514 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: especially if you had theirs, and they just don't, you know, 515 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: they just don't want to follow through with you, and 516 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's a great opportunity. I thought it was 517 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: a great opportunity for us, so I didn't even you know, 518 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: I just wanted to support. 519 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: Her and stuff. Like that. 520 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: But you know, it's just one of those things where 521 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: you keep you know, it's one of those things where 522 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: you say, again, you know, you know whatever. You just 523 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: kind of like when you talked about it to other people, 524 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: you're like, you know, it's for the best and stuff 525 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: like that, but sometimes you just don't know. 526 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I think, mm hmm, yeah, I can, I can, I can. 527 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: I can see why you uh, why you feel like 528 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: you've been a trade. But uh, I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, no, no, 529 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm actually glad we're talking about this because 530 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: again I want to come back to your answer of 531 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: the question of why you made the decision. It was 532 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: a really it was a really good answer, man, It 533 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: really was. You made the decision for a really good reason, 534 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: and you made it with all of the knowledge that 535 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: you had at the time. I mean, to to make 536 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: to to decide that you want to go out and 537 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: try to live a life for yourself and not just 538 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of be shoehorned into your your your girlfriend's family's life, 539 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: and and and not to you know, to pursue a 540 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: job that you really feel like might make your life better. 541 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's again, a good reason to make 542 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: that decision. So even if things didn't work out exactly 543 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: how you wanted them to, I think it's great that 544 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: you went after something that you felt like could make 545 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: your life better. And I know when you're hurting, maybe 546 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear something that's just kind of whatever, 547 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: blindly optimistic. But I do have an optimism that there 548 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: is still the potential for this decision to make your 549 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: life better, you know, because it still sounds like it's 550 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: very early in this career. 551 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I, you know, thanks for saying that. You know, 552 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: it feels good to you know. 553 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: I've talked to it obviously. 554 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I talked to a few friends about it, and I 555 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: guess I just wanted to get a person who doesn't 556 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: know me's opinion about it, because you know, your friends 557 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: are always going to support you, and hopefully you have 558 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: one see you that tell you the truth. But it 559 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: was nice to get some friendly get go advice and 560 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: from a person who doesn't know me compared to even 561 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: though even though friends can be honest with you and 562 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: support you. I just it was, you know, it's just 563 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: nice to hear from somebody who doesn't have anything to 564 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: do with you. 565 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And by the way, can I just say 566 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: you're you're twenty six by the way, right, Yeah, okay, 567 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: we're we're we're similar ages. I I don't want to 568 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't wanna uh lay toxic positivity shit on you. 569 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: But I in my head when I'm when you're telling 570 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: me about this, I'm thinking, well, no, I'm dude, I'm 571 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: thinking like, okay, you know you'd made the decision. Here's 572 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: the thing about I'm I have a billion thoughts in 573 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: my head. But here's the thing about these decisions that 574 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: we make, and I'm really trying to learn this myself, 575 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: is that something that happens that ends up one way 576 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: that's bad right now, could eventually start a string of 577 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: things that lead to something that you could never have expected. 578 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: So like, Okay, you made this decision to take this job, 579 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: and as a result, things you know don't work out 580 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: with the current person you're with. But fucking what if 581 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: you know this current job sends you to some place, 582 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: you're on some airplane, you're in some meeting, you meet whatever, 583 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: and you meet someone else who you're like, whoa, what 584 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: the who is this person? And then you start a 585 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: new relationship that's you know, you're feeling things that you 586 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: never even knew were possible to feel in the old 587 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: one or or and then maybe that one fucking turns 588 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: out shitty, and then fucking that fails. But then maybe 589 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: that leads you to something else that's amazing in your career. 590 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Maybe you meet the fucking person in your industry that's 591 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: your your hero. There's just infinite, infinite things that could happen. 592 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: You have no idea if they're positive or negative, and 593 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: so and everything I'm telling you is things I'm trying 594 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: to tell myself. So just fucking roll with it, man, 595 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: you know that's that's Yeah, you're right, that's all I 596 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: gotta say. 597 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. 598 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, oh, thank you, Lyle. 599 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, thanks thanks for having this talk with me. 600 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm really uh, I feel honored that you would, you know, 601 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: share all this this stuff. 602 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I'm sorry to get so heavy at the 603 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: last part there, but you know, I really it was 604 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: I really appreciate. I honestly really appreciate tonight. 605 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: You know that I got in. 606 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: So it was really nice talking with you. 607 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, uh are you going to before we go? 608 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Do you do you think that you know, kind of 609 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: back to the hypochondria, stuff. Do you think you will 610 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: try again to seek, you know, a legitimate type of 611 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: type of treatment that. 612 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: Well. 613 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: Listen, you know, I've been listening to you a lot 614 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: on Spotify, and i know one of your sponsors is 615 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: Better Help, and I've kind of I've been on the 616 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: side a couple of times, and I've like gotten to 617 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: the point where like I'm almost finished signing up and 618 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: then I close off. So but I've been I've been 619 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: definitely thinking about that, and maybe I've been thinking about 620 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: that more because I've been listening to your show so much, 621 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: and I just want to say, by the way too, 622 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: but you know, I've heard, I've I've heard about your 623 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: show and I've seen clips from it before all this 624 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: stuff happened. But since this stuff has been going on, 625 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I almost just kind of go 626 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: through the catalog every night and it really really really. 627 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: Helps me out. 628 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: So if you ever feel like I mean, you know 629 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: you have your doubts too, But if you're ever doubtful 630 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: that this show doesn't do anything besides provide some funny 631 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: things for the Internet, You're wrong, you know, I mean, 632 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: it really helps out a lot of people. 633 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: I think, thank you, brother. I you that that really 634 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: genuinely does mean a lot to me. It really does, 635 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: because yeah, I am man, I fucking everything I talk 636 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: to you about I on this call is are things 637 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: that I've had my doubts about too, So I really 638 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: appreciate that, man. And you know, once again, thank you 639 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: for talking to me. And I hope that you can 640 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: find a therapist that is helpful to you and doesn't 641 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: make you draw fucking pictures. 642 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: Thanks man. And can I say one thing to the 643 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: audience before. 644 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: I go, Yes, of course, I just want to. 645 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 2: Say, and I've well, I guess I've learned this recently too, 646 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: that if you guys ever feel stuck in any sort 647 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: of situation, there's a way out, no matter how hard 648 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: it is, and you can really change your lives for 649 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: the better, or at least change it, you know what 650 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean. So that's all I want to say. 651 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, in in in in thinking about everything that 652 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, I'm really glad to hear you 653 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: say that, because you know, I know that you've you've 654 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: been dealing with a lot of things and probably a 655 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: lot of hopelessness, it sounds, and so I'm glad to 656 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: hear you. Uh, you know, leave us with those optimistic thoughts. 657 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 4: Thank you. I really appreciate it. 658 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: Man, you helped a lot. 659 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Hey, take care, Tristan, you too. Oh that was a 660 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: that was a wild, wild call. That might be one 661 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: of the longest calls I've taken on this show. We 662 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of interesting things. That was a really, 663 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: really great conversation. Thank you again to Tristan for having 664 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: that conversation with me. Thinking about death, thinking about life, 665 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: thinking about decisions, think of a fucking think about all 666 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: this ship that I'm uh, I'm thinking about all the time. 667 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: It's it's it's fun to talk to people through this 668 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: stuff because it reinforces it when I think about it 669 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: in my own life and my own decisions, and and 670 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, when I'm thinking through a 671 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: similar problem of oh, okay, well I made this decision 672 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: and that didn't work out. You know, I can think, well, 673 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: you fucking told this guy on the fucking podcast this thing, 674 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: so I want to try to believe in it yourself. 675 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just great. It was great. Thank 676 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: you Tristan for talking to me about that. And I 677 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: hope he gets uh, you know, a legit person who 678 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: helps him out with his hypochondria, and fuck, man, he's 679 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: a young he's a young dude. We're very similar ages. 680 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like there's lots and lots and lots 681 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: of room for him to experience more. As he said, 682 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't just want to be happy all the time, 683 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of experience room for 684 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: him to as he continues through his life, much opportunity 685 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: for him to dive into the wide spectrum of emotions 686 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: that the human experience has to offer. And I hope 687 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: he soaks them all up before he dies and I die, 688 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: and whoever is listening to this dies live in the moment, 689 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: dear thing. I'm a get Hello. 690 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 5: Wait, wait, hello, is this Wile? 691 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 692 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Is this Kayla? Yes? 693 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 5: This is Kayla. Oh wow. I've been waiting a while, 694 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 5: so I'm excited. 695 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Man? 696 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 5: I am just sitting at my boyfriend's house. We are 697 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 5: actually watching your line right now. 698 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: Oh beautiful, beautiful. It says here that you and your 699 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: boyfriend have a disagreement going on. I figure you, I'm 700 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: not going to read it. You could just tell me 701 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: what it is, of course. 702 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: So we were driving in the car, actually listening to 703 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 5: your life. And he was telling me a story about 704 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 5: how he had neighbors that used to jiz in their 705 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 5: face as masturbation, and so it's funny, but I just 706 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 5: we've come to the disagreement on he thinks that it's 707 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 5: a gay to do that, like it's people homosexual people. Sorry, 708 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: if that's not PC. 709 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: Do it. 710 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 5: But I thought that would just be like a masturbating 711 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 5: thing because you're just doing it to yourself, not like 712 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 5: to another same sex person. So I was curious what 713 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 5: your thoughts are on. 714 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: It, Okay, for before we get into any of that, 715 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Before we get into any of that, how what where 716 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: were his neighbors masturbating where he could see it? 717 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 5: No, no, no, he didn't see it. He wasn't like 718 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 5: there or anything. It was Uh, it was a conversation 719 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 5: he had overheard when he was younger. 720 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: It was a conversation he had overheard when he was younger. 721 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, is he there? 722 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Is he there? Well, I'll get into like the initial question, 723 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: but can I talk to him real quick? 724 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 5: Tucker? 725 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: You're Tucker? 726 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 5: Wait? 727 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, oh wait, I need to hear this conversation. What 728 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: I need I need all of the contexts he possibly has. Hey, Tucker, Hello, 729 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: father G. Tucker Man, Listen, what I know that you 730 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: and your girlfriend have this debate. But I'm doing all right, man. 731 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: What tell me about you hearing your neighbors talk about 732 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: jerking off and on their own faces when young. 733 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, this was a very strange, out of context question 734 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 7: that she could have asked you. But anyways, so, my 735 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 7: my friend's mom was friends with this gay couple, and 736 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 7: you know, we're hanging out at their firepit or whatever, 737 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 7: and they're all drunk or whatever, and so they're pretty 738 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 7: like open about their gainess, which is sure. And you know, 739 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 7: I forgot how how the subject came up, but uh, yeah, 740 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 7: he said that he like came in his own faith 741 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 7: when he was like, you know, like a teenager or whatever. 742 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 7: And you know, I I said it was gay, But 743 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 7: my girlfriend thing is it's not. But you know, tweets 744 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 7: their own you know, I guess she holds up a 745 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 7: pretty good argument about it, but I personally think it is. 746 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: But you know, and you know, anybody else when you said, listen, 747 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: when you say you were younger, how young were you 748 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: when you over? 749 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know the fact that I was younger 750 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 7: makes it sound like it's super creepy and like, no, 751 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 7: I just wait. 752 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: Look, look, I'm not we're not making any judgments. We're 753 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: not making any judgments on the situation. I'm just trying 754 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: to get empirical day to hear. How how old were 755 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: you when this happened. 756 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 7: I believe I was in like seventh or eighth. 757 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: Grade or so. 758 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you were you were probably masturbating 759 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: at this time. Eighth grade is just typically when. 760 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could. 761 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 7: I guess I could relate in some sense, but not not. 762 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: You know, have you ever jacked off on your own face? 763 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: You ever masturbated and just on your face? 764 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 7: Negative? No, No, that's not a activity that I've taken exactly. 765 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: And you you believe that it is that I've known anybody. 766 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 3: Else that had. 767 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me talk about let me talk 768 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: to your girlfriend again. 769 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, my love here. 770 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 5: Hello. 771 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're arguing about whether or not you believe 772 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: it is gay to jack off onto your own face, 773 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: and what is your perspective on this? Where do you 774 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: stand in this debate? 775 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 5: Well, I would think that if you're doing it with 776 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 5: someone of the same sex, I think then it would 777 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 5: be considered gay. However, doing it to yourself, so it's 778 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 5: like masturbating. I know it's not like what normal like 779 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 5: normally you would do, I guess, but like it's a 780 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 5: more rare thing. But I would consider it masturbating. But 781 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 5: now it's saying it out loud, it sounds a bit 782 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 5: more silly. 783 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, no, it's interesting because well I guess, I guess 784 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: in order to be like when I think of like 785 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: gay or straight, like straight would be, you know, a 786 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: guy and a girl, and gay would be a guy 787 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: and a guy. But if you don't, if there's no 788 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: second person, then there's no it's just it just is 789 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: what it is. Yes, it's master day. I agree with that. 790 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: So I don't think, Okay. 791 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 5: Thank you, Yeah, thank you. I masturbating. It's it's arguable 792 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 5: because the original story comes from a gay couple. So 793 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 5: the strong point there is it is a gay thing. 794 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 5: But however, I think, like if you're doing it to 795 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 5: yourself alone, I just think it might be a weird 796 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 5: setish people are just think. 797 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm really curious why your boyfriend says 798 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: that he doesn't jack off onto his own face. But 799 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: I think he's lying because there's no other reason why 800 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: you would be like so embroiled in ument in the 801 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: way that you are. 802 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 5: I think I think so too. He has a beautiful 803 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 5: and I want to know his skincare, But there doesn't 804 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 5: seem too much evidence in the bathroom, so there could 805 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 5: only be one. 806 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: By the way I'm gonna, I'll say this with the 807 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: whole like, whatever is it gay thing i've Actually here's 808 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: the thing I've I have not gized on my own face, 809 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: but I jizz on my knees all the time, and 810 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: when my GIGS comes out, it's like hot, And when 811 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: I gizz on my knee, it like it feels a 812 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: little bit good in the way that like like on 813 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: my knee, not even in like a sexual way, like 814 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: in the way that like a hot towel does. So 815 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: like I haven't done this yet, maybe I will, who knows, 816 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: But I could see myself if I giezed on my 817 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: own face and my jigs was like warm, it would 818 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: be like a hot towel kind of sensation on my face, 819 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: and that it wouldn't to me even be like a 820 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: sexual thing. So no, I saw again, I'm with you. 821 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a sexual thing at all. 822 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: To gigs on your own face. It would just like 823 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: Field call it. 824 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 5: I mean I can see it as like a like 825 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 5: a therapeutic thing. I could see it enhancing your skin. 826 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 5: Have you ever nutrients it's been proven. 827 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever have ever? 828 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: Is that that you can do. 829 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 5: Like my like my vagina juice? 830 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 831 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 5: I don't. I mean maybe in the sense of like 832 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 5: during sex, you know, you go in, you come out, 833 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 5: you go down, But uh no, I don't. I don't 834 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 5: usually just rub it on my face in my free time. 835 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, it is kind of more of like a 836 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 5: I think, a rare thing to do. But I will. 837 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad we had this conversation. This felt like 838 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: it was extremely productive. 839 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 840 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 5: I was hoping it would. I've been really wanting to 841 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 5: talk to you, I think for about a about a 842 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 5: week now, So I'm really glad I got there. It 843 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 5: called like eighty five times. I was like, Okay, we'll 844 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 5: get in there. We need to know. I'm glad we 845 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 5: got your. 846 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm glad we got to sell this too, 847 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people I think a 848 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: lot of people were wondering, Kayla, is there anything else 849 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer 850 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: before we go. 851 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 5: Thank you all for listening, and I hope you enjoyed 852 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 5: this conversation. 853 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 1: Yah, bless you and tell you Tell your boyfriend it's 854 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: it's fine to come on his own face. He doesn't 855 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: need to feel this weird shame about it. 856 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: You're here. 857 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 5: I think he needs to hear it from you. 858 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: Father by Okay, what's your name again? 859 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 3: Tucker? 860 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: Tucker. I'll talk to you soon, Tucker. 861 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 862 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: A couple of great guys, Kayla and Tucker. Hello, Hello, 863 00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: how's it going? 864 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 4: How's it going? 865 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: Man? Was wild? 866 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Yeah, what's up with you? 867 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 4: Not much? Man? My work break, dude, Uh, I'd call 868 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 4: in while I have some time. 869 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh boy, a work break? 870 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, wild dude. I had a pretty interesting debate 871 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to bring up to you. 872 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 3: Man. 873 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's going on? 874 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 4: So? I don't know if you saw from the from 875 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 4: the call screener, but uh, me and my girlfriend had 876 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 4: a little debate about you know, she had her opinion, 877 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 4: I had mine, and I thought i'd bring this to 878 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 4: your attention to tell me what I should do about this. 879 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 4: So we've been debating. I thought about becoming a firm 880 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 4: donor ah, And I actually took the time to go 881 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 4: on an application and apply somewhere just to see what 882 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 4: would happen. And they accept in my application and told 883 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 4: me to make an appointment and I haven't responded because 884 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 4: I'm pretty nervous to do it. 885 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: Interesting what about it is making you nervous. 886 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 4: Because I'm like, I don't want to, like, I don't 887 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 4: know how the process is going to be. Like when 888 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 4: I go there and they just like, you know, take 889 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 4: a sample or something like, I'm just like and then 890 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 4: plus like if it does follow through, I'm just like, wait, well, 891 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna have like they wanted a photo, I 892 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 4: do picture, like my face next to like you know, 893 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 4: my my, you know, my sample and everything. And it 894 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 4: just seems like such a weird process. But but you 895 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 4: can get paid, like I think, like like a thousand, 896 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars a month for it. 897 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: A month for like what do you mean a month? 898 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: Like you just give them spur a monthly. 899 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 4: Well I guess uh, I'm reading on it. They that 900 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: you would have to go like at least two to 901 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 4: three times a week to go and give them samples. Yeah, 902 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 4: and then monthly you'll get paid fifteen hundred. So I'm like, okay, 903 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 4: it's really like easy money. I asked my girlfriend about it, 904 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 4: and she said, she said, well, that's it's extra money. 905 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 4: I mean, I you're not like cheating. I don't see 906 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 4: why not. And I said, well, I mean, would it 907 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 4: be weird if I like had like a bunch of 908 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 4: like minimes out there somewhere like that are mine but 909 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 4: not really mine? 910 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: Mm? 911 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 4: And she's you know, that's the part I'm nervous about 912 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 4: because I'm like, that seems a little weird. But then again, 913 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 4: it's kind of not it's kind of cool. 914 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 6: Okay. 915 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So so let's let's let's let's dive into it. 916 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,479 Speaker 1: Why what what if you could kind of put into 917 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: words like take a second and search for them? What 918 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: what feels weird about that? 919 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 4: The thing that feels weird about it? I mean, I 920 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 4: know it's for a good cause. I know it's for 921 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 4: a good cause, but it's just a little weird because 922 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 4: I mean, what are the odds? You know, one day 923 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 4: walking down the street and I just see some kids 924 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 4: and I'm like, hey, he looks kind of like me, like, 925 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 4: you know, like, what are the odds that I ever have? 926 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 4: And probably like very very low. But it's just a 927 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 4: little It just makes me nervous thinking about Like, dude, 928 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 4: I like out there there are like means out there, 929 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 4: like somewhere anywhere but here. So here's the thing. So 930 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 4: I brought it up to my girlfriend, and you know, 931 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 4: she had her opinion, and she kind of like wanted 932 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 4: me to do it, kind of like hyping me up, 933 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 4: like do it, why not just try it out? And 934 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 4: so I was like yeah, and I think I got 935 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 4: a little two hyped up. And I was like, yeah, 936 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 4: you know what, like I could like have like like 937 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 4: I should have a kid in like every race like 938 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 4: that'd be awesome. I'm like, yeah, like I should have 939 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 4: like a MIDI like army. And it's here saying like 940 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 4: going too far, and they's like, no, I don't want 941 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 4: you to do it. But now I'm like, hype kind 942 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 4: of do it. 943 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, are you what do you? Are you 944 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: short on cash right now? No? 945 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 4: But okay, I mean the extra would be nice. 946 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean listen, here's the thing, right, is what 947 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: makes somebody a father in the modern world. Is it 948 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 1: simply that their child came out of their own penis, 949 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: or or is it the fact that they took care 950 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: of that child, brought them up, They were in that 951 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: child's lives. So I mean, look, if if if you 952 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: if you're looking to come, there's nothing special, which ultimately 953 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: it's not. There's infinite come in the universe. Come. It's 954 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: not like oil. It's an infinite reoccurring resource that is 955 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: every where. The come is not very special, So you 956 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: know you have come. Just spray it out all over 957 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: into the universe. Make little people. People aren't that special either. 958 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: Just make a bunch of them. Get a little bit 959 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: of money. Money's not that special either, Just do it. 960 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: Why not, dude? 961 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: I mean, who knows one of those kids can like 962 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 4: someday like become the president and I'll be like, hey, 963 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 4: like thinks you might contribute, like like I give so 964 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 4: are you? 965 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about it like you're keeping in 966 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: touch with these kids. I mean you're you're throwing your 967 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: coum into a file and then you're never getting You're 968 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: never you know, that's it, You're done. You have relinquished 969 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: your come into the universe. Your part is done. I mean, 970 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: so you're never gonna know, No, You're not going to know. 971 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to see, uh, your kids running around. 972 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: You're not going to find out if your come became 973 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: the president. You're just exchanging come for money. There's nothing 974 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: else to it. 975 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 4: Honestly, it sounds like a kind of reasonable exchange. 976 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 3: Man. 977 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: I think so too. Well, I don't know, like it's 978 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: really it's a here's it's a good deal for you, 979 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: because I think buying come is crazy. There's infinite come. 980 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: It's not, as I said, a scarce recess. So if 981 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: I were you, I take advantage of the deal before 982 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: they read that their kind of suckers for buying come. 983 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 4: That's kind of true, man, Like that's access. It's everywhere, 984 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 4: it's everywhere. Yeah, you know what, man, I think I'm 985 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 4: gonna consider it. 986 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: Mhmm, you shouldn't. 987 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 4: I think I think I'm getting I think I'm gonna 988 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 4: consider it. Well, I'm still a little nervous. I don't 989 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna do when I go there, because 990 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're like, Okay. 991 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna do when you're gonna go there. 992 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 4: I have no idea how it works. 993 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: No, I know how it works. You go in the place, 994 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,720 Speaker 1: they go, here's a little cup, go into the bathroom. 995 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 1: Do you know how to jack off? You ever come before? Yeah, okay, 996 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,959 Speaker 1: go into a bathroom, you jack off, You think about 997 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is that gets you there, and you come 998 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: into a little vial and then you give them the 999 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: vial and they hand you fifteen dollars. 1000 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 4: Or more and then they're like bye, and then. 1001 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. That's all you gotta do. Huh, you 1002 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: are a human coming. 1003 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, dude, you know what. I think it 1004 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 4: was just gonna be the best the scene I could 1005 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 4: possibly be. 1006 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: You should you should do it. 1007 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna do it well, Daniel. 1008 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: Anything I want to say to the people of the 1009 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: computer before we go. 1010 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 4: Guys, uh, you know, if you have a good feeling 1011 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 4: about something, you know, even if you're nervous, you know, 1012 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 4: stright out, you know. 1013 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 3: Straight out beautiful. 1014 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Daniel. 1015 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 4: Thanks all see it. 1016 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 7: Man Can goes on the line taking phone calls every night. 1017 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: De Beacon goes to his eye. 1018 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm just teaching you. 1019 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 3: Aloud in the memory line. 1020 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 2: But he's not really an expert.