1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Lisa Matteo and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. Karen, we begin with 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: an escalation in the trade war. Just a few hours ago, 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: China announced it was once again increasing tariffs on US goods. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Let's go to Hong Kong get the very latest with 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Jill Desis. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Jill, Good morning, Lisa and Karen. Yes, So, the latest 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: we have from China is that they will raise tariffs 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: and all US goods from eighty four percent to one 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five percent. That's starting April twelfth, and 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: then they say that they ultimately plan to ignore any 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: further increases announced by Washington. The Chinese officials actually called 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: the latest the Trump's administration, the latest moves a joke. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: They said that have given that American goods are no 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: longer marketable in China under the curve teriff rates. If 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: the US further raises tariffs on Chinese exports, they are 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: just going to disregard those measures. Seem that, at least 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: in response to that move from Donald Trump overnight to 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 3: clarify actually that the terriff rights on Chinese goods flowing 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: into the United States were actually one hundred and forty 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: five percent if you were to take into account earlier measures. 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: They raise these rates this time around and then say 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: they are done at this point. You know, we saw 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: and five hundred futures fall further after this announcement. We 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: saw futures on the Hansang China Enterprises INEX in Hong 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Kong pair gains that actually closed a little bit up 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: earlier today, just on bets that China would introduce more 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: stimulus to sort of help its economy. There's some speculation 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: that that may be coming down the pike at some point. 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: But ultimately, what we're really seeing here is this escalation 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: and tensions between Beijing and Washington. Neither side has really 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: blinked at this point. We'll have to see what ultimately 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: happens in Washington in response to this, but at least 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: from China's perspective, they're pretty much done here in Hong Kong. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: This is Jill deesis Bloomberg Radio. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: All right, Jill, thank you about the latest news on China. 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Increasing tariffs comes after President Trump expressed optimism a deal 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: with Beijing. Will be reached. 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: We're resetting the table, and I'm sure that we'll be 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: able to get along very well. I have great respect 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: for President She's been in a true sense, he's been 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 4: a friend of mine for a long period of time, 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: and I think that we'll end up working on something 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 4: that's very good for both countries. 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: The White House confirms China now faces a one hundred 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: and forty five percent levy on all goods it sends 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: to the US well. 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: Karen Bloomberg News has learned top European officials are planning 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: to visit China later this year to discuss trade with 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 5: President Jijin Ping. A source to say European Commissioned President 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: Ursula Vonderline and European Council President Antonio Costa have agreed 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: to the summit in Beijing. The possible meeting. It comes 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: as Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez visited Beijing today, saying 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: he sees China as a partner of the EU. 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Lisa Bridgewater Associates founder Ray Dalio says the tariff turmoil 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 2: has damaged the US reputation for really liability. Dollehoe spoke 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: with the Bloomberg's Francine lackwall. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 6: I'm not the politician. 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 7: I'm not the negotiator. 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 6: I'm not the person to say whether that style of 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 6: handling it was better or worse. I would say that 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 6: it dramatically affected psychology and attitude about the United States' reliability. 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: And Dolio said that while he is pleased about Trump's 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: decision to pivot, he cautioned that the volatility will have 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: lasting effects. Here the full conversation on the latest edition 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: of the Bloomberg in the City podcast. 68 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: And futures are lower this morning as a turbulent week 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: to the markets comes to a close. Yesterday, stocks gate 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: back a chunk of Wednesday's massive rally. The S and 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 5: P five hundred fell three and a half percent. 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Well, there's another worry for Wall Street this morning, Lisa, 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: as the safe haven status of US treasuries and the 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: dollar have come into question. We get the latest of 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's John Tucker, John, Good morning, Good. 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 8: Morning, Karen. Normally, in periods of stress, money flows into 77 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 8: the perceived safety of US treasuries. They rallied during the 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 8: global financial crisis nine to eleven and even when America's 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 8: own credit rating was cut. But now as President Trump 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 8: unleashes an all out of salt on global trade. Their 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 8: status is the world safe haven is increasingly coming into question, 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 8: Henry Allen at Deutsche Bank, Whereas this could be the 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 8: start of a regime change. 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: It's really striking that today we have seen US treasury 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 6: sell off quite severely in response to what's going on. 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 7: So I think that does speaks that broad a confidence crisis. 87 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 8: As US debts sold off, yields, especially on the longer 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 8: term debt, have surged in recent days. The dollar has 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 8: also plunged, and a disconcerting pattern has emerged investors dumping 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 8: treasuries at the same time they sold stocks and other 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 8: risky assets. As former Treasury Secretary Larry Summer says, they're 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 8: trading like the debt of an emerging market country, you know, Yorkome. 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 8: John Tucker, Bloomberg. 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: Radio, All right, thanks John. It also remains to be 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 5: seen what impact the tariff turmoil we'll have on corporate earnings. 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 5: This morning, big banks begin to rep Let's get a 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: preview with Bloomberg's Shanali Bosick with JP Morgan. 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 9: Kicking off big bank earnings in the middle of an 99 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 9: escalating tariff war, investors will be watching out for how 100 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 9: much money the big banks are making at their trading 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 9: desks in the middle of historic volatility. Investors will also 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 9: be keeping an eye on how much these banks are 103 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 9: able to lend as consumers are becoming more wary about 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 9: potential inflation on the heels of tariffs. I'm Shanali Basic 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 9: in New York for Bloomberg Radio. 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: All right, Chanale, thank you well. In other news this morning, 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: a New York City sight seeing helicopter broke apart in 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: midair and crashed into the Hudson River, killing the pilot 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 2: and a family of five Spanish tourists. New York Police 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Commissioner Jessica Tish explained it was only in the air 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: for fifteen minutes when it reached the George Washington Bridge 112 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: before turning south, then crashing shortly thereafter. 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: The aircraft lost control and hit the water just a 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: few feet off the coast of peer A. 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 6: Park in Hoboke, and. 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: The victims included Siemens executive August den Esco Barr. New 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: York City Mayor Eric Adams we. 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 10: Loss of five family members and a pilot to an 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 10: incident was still investigating their many unknowns here, but without federal, state, 120 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 10: and city partners. We'll find out exactly what happened. 121 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: The helicopter, identified by the FAA as a Bell two 122 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: six helicopter, was on its sixth flight of the day. 123 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: It was found upside down in the fifty degree water 124 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: when rescuers arrived at the scene, which was closer to 125 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: the New Jersey side of the Hudson River. The NTSB 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: and the FAA are investigating well. 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 5: Looking at the nation's capital, the House narrowly passed a 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: framework for a budget proposal that President Trump supported, but 129 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 5: it's not a done deal. Bloomberg's Amy Morris is in 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: Washington with what comes next. 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 11: House Speaker Mike Johnson celebrated the passage of the blueprint legislation. 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 8: Big components of the One Big, Beautiful Bill is to 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 8: ensure that we don't have the largest tax increase in 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 8: US history all at once. 135 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 11: Johnson says this paves the way for Republicans to cut 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 11: one and a half trillion dollars from the budget. House 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 11: Minority Leader Hakim Jeffrey says that can't happen unless you 138 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 11: cut medicaid. 139 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: Republicans can run from their proposal, which is the largest 140 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: Medicaid cut in American history, but we will never allow 141 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 5: them to hide. 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 11: Johnson has set a target of the end of May 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 11: to enact the bill. Senate Republicans talked about getting it 144 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 11: done by august in Washington. Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio, It's time. 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Now for a look at some of their stories making 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: news in New York and around the world, and for 147 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning, 148 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Good Morning, Karen. 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 7: The Supreme Court says the Trump administration must work to 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: bring back a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to 151 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 7: El Salvador. Kilar Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran citizen who 152 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 7: had an immigration court order preventing his deportation to his 153 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 7: native country over fears he would face persecution from local games. 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 7: The administration has conceded that it made a mistake in 155 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 7: sending him to El Salvador, where he is being held 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 7: in a notorious prison, but also argued that it no 157 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 7: longer could do anything about it. Former federal prosecutor and 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: Loyola Law School professor Lori Levinson. 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 12: This has been the first big pushback on the administration 160 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 12: by the Supreme Court, and it took the administration basically 161 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 12: taking a hard line that they didn't have to do 162 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 12: anything to bring back somebody, even though they wrongfully sent 163 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 12: them to a foreign country. 164 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 7: Loyola Law School professor Lori Levinson, a Russian American woman 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 7: freed by Moscow, has arrived back in the US as 166 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 7: part of a prisoner swap. A plane carrying Cassenna Carolina 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 7: landed late last night at Joint Bass Andrews, where she 168 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 7: was greeted by her fiancee. She was released earlier in 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 7: the day in exchange for a Russian German Man who 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 7: had been jailed in the US on smuggling charges. Carolina 171 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 7: was arrested last year, convicted of treason on charges stemming 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 7: from a donation of just fifty two dollars to a 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 7: charity aiding Ukraine. There are now two hundred and twenty 174 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 7: two reported depths in the tragic roof collapse of a 175 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 7: crowded nightclub in the Dominican Republic this week search for 176 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 7: bodies and Santo Domingo has ended, and as we have 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 7: been reporting, a New York City sight seeing helicopter broke 178 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 7: apart in midair and crashed into the Hudson River, killing 179 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 7: all six people on board. This witness saw it happen. 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 7: It was just coming down and. 181 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 10: At forty five angle and they went straight into the 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 10: water and it was a big splash. 183 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: It was crazy. 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 7: The five passengers were all from Spain. The pilot also 185 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 7: killed Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever 186 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: you want it with Bloomberg News now now Michael Barr 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: and this is Bloomberg Heron. 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 189 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Spores update. Here's John Stshauer, John, good morning, Good 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: morning daring. 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Not the first time Justin Rose has had a good 192 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: start to the Masters. In fact, no one has had 193 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: the first round we need more often. This is the 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: fifth time, one more than Jack Nicholas, who won the 195 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Masters six times. 196 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 7: Rose has never won the green jacket. 197 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Will this be the year for the forty four year 198 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: old from England who's plenty the Masters for the twentieth time. 199 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: He had a brilliant opening round a seven under sixty five. 200 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: He needed only twenty two plucks. 201 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 13: It was a really good day's golf on a golf 202 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 13: course that was a stern test. I think if you 203 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 13: look at the overall leaderboard, not many low scores out there, 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 13: so you had to take got a quality shots and 205 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 13: the light over the way played. 206 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: Three golfers trail by three, led the oberg the Canadian 207 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: Cory Connors and the defendee champion Scottie Sheffler. Rory McElroy 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: was four under with four roles to play, then had 209 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: two double bogies. The next in Detroit, gave three of 210 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: their top players the night off, lost one to fifteen 211 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: to one oh six Cade Cunningham thirty six points for 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: the Pistons, who've gone from fourteen wins last season to 213 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: forty four this year, and as the now they'd played 214 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs. Although 215 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: the Knicks lead over Indiana for third in the East 216 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: is down to one game, the Rangers took out some 217 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: frustration for their disappointing season, lasting the Islanders at Ubs 218 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Arena nine to two. Rangers scored four goals in the 219 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: first period, four more than the third. Red Sox salvaged 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: the game with the Blue Jays at Fenway four to three, 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: and Tenames the Yankees back home Tonight's Bay the Giant 222 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Semester and Sacramento taking on the Aids. The Jets brought 223 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: in Allen Lazar because of his history catching passages from 224 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. 225 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 7: Rogers has gone. 226 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: Lazards stayed, but his salary was cut from eleven million 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: to two minds. John Stanshy, I were Bloomberg Sports. 228 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 14: Kenny Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 229 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 14: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 230 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 14: Bloomberg Business Ad. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 5: Hey, it's about thirteen on Wall Street. Well, some more 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: volatility thrust into the market. Yesterday President Trump's tariffs on 233 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: China actually higher than previously announced, and now China retaliating again. 234 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 5: You're here to break it down for us. As Bloomberg 235 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 5: Senior editor Bill Farries. Bill, it's hard to keep up 236 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: with his news flow constantly changing. So now the White 237 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: House says the total tariffs and post on China now 238 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: add up to one hundred and forty five percent. And 239 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: now we're learning China is going to raise tariffs on 240 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: all US codes from eighty four percent to one hundred 241 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: and twenty five percent. I mean, how long is this 242 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: back and forth going to go on? 243 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 15: You know, yes, what we've been talking about all day. 244 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 15: Thanks for having me. There's a real question at what 245 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 15: point do these tariffs kind of start becoming meaningless numbers. 246 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 15: I mean, we know an analysis by Bloomberg Economics showed 247 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 15: that once you get over one hundred percent tariffs, at 248 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 15: least in the medium term, you basically bring an end 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 15: to bilateral trade. It's basically a complete decoupling. But even 250 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 15: in the short term, you know, the big question is 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 15: when do you start seeing the impacts from this, And 252 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 15: we're seeing it now with some companies already cutting back 253 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 15: on purchase orders from China. US companies cutting back on 254 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 15: purchase orders and a lot of uncertainty, CEOs tossing out 255 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 15: full your guidance, and no one really knows where this 256 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 15: is except that it's headed to a place we haven't 257 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 15: been before. But China's saying they're raising US tariffs on 258 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 15: the US goods till one hundred and twenty five percent, 259 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 15: and they added to that that they are not going 260 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 15: to go any further. They said they won't respond to 261 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 15: additional US moves because they said what the Trump administration 262 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 15: is doing now has quote become a joke. 263 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, And they said they are going to ignore it. 264 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: I mean, can they do that? Can you just ignore it? 265 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 15: I think, you know, at some level it becomes it's 266 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 15: not clear that it really makes a difference. Right Once, 267 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 15: once you have one hundred and thirty percent or one 268 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 15: hundred and forty percent tariffs on something, doesn't really matter 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 15: if you go to one hundred and sixty percent. Maybe 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 15: for some companies it does, but for the vast majority 271 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 15: of products, if you're talking about more than a doubling 272 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 15: of their costs, you're probably starting to wipe out that 273 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 15: market for them. 274 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: Okay, Now you talked about briefly some of the corporation's 275 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 5: businesses how it's affecting them. Dig more into the global 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 5: impact of all of this back and forth. 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 15: Well, it's you know, it's it's obviously the biggest trading 278 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 15: relationship in the world, the US China trade relationship seven 279 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 15: hundred billion dollars in annual trade back in normal times. 280 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 15: But it's really it's bigger than that, because we're talking 281 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 15: about American companies that have supply chains that maybe go 282 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 15: from China into Vietnam, into another country, maybe even into 283 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 15: Europe than over to the US. We've already seen as 284 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 15: of several days ago, eleven hundred requests from American companies 285 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 15: seeking exemptions from some of these teriffs, because they're saying, 286 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 15: even if we want to produce more in the United States, 287 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 15: the goods we need to make that production possible to 288 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 15: build up that capacity are getting tariffed, so we would 289 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 15: like to have some of these exemptions. But you're also 290 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 15: seeing Europe now, European leaders planning to go to China. 291 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 15: You have the Spanish Prime Minister saying that the EU 292 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 15: may need to shift more of its attention to better 293 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 15: relations with China. So China is potentially going to become 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 15: a big beneficiary of all this. 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