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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey Judy, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming to this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I ghosts nandaz plase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the paranormal. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, we've got another listener episode for you. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, one quick announcement. I will be

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Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles at Largo doing a non Ghosted

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Speaker 1: show once again, a stand up show called Roz Hernandez

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Speaker 1: and her Allies. I had just done one in June

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Speaker 1: and it was a hit. Baby. It was me, Margaret Choe, Joel,

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Speaker 1: Kim Booster, Hannah Einbinder. I mean stars, honey, So just

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Speaker 1: imagine the stars that will be with me. This show

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Speaker 1: is August twelfth. You can get the tickets at Largo's

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Speaker 1: website or in my link tree. Of course, after I

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Speaker 1: did the last one, I started getting all these messages.

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Speaker 1: Oh I wish I would have known about this.

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Speaker 2: I should have.

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Speaker 1: Gone, uh, well, I'm telling you now August twelfth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got a listener episode for you, and as always,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be considered for one. Please email

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Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Put in the

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Speaker 1: subject line listener episode, nothing else, just listener episode, and

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Speaker 1: then like a one sentence description of each story. One

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Speaker 1: time I had a ghost in my house. Then this

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Speaker 1: happened like that kind of a thing, not paragraphs. If

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Speaker 1: This first caller is Wrinn, who had a very spooky

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Speaker 1: encounter at one of my favorite happiest places ever. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to that on with the show. I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Wrinn from California, the Central Coast.

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Speaker 3: High Rinn he ros.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have a story about maybe my

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Speaker 1: favorite one of my favorite places definitely, I would say

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Speaker 1: my favorite hotel that I've ever been to, the Madonna Inn.

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Speaker 1: And anyone listening if you don't know the Madonna In,

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Speaker 1: google Madonna In in San Louis Obispo and look at

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Speaker 1: the pictures and plan your Okay, it's haunted.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's haunted. I mean I think it's haunted.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that.

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Speaker 4: I've heard chirping, and we'll get into like my experience

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Speaker 4: but I tried to look it up after and I

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Speaker 4: think there's like I think they're taking down all those

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Speaker 4: ghost stories because I couldn't find a drop of I

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Speaker 1: You never know some of these places, they're just like,

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Speaker 1: that's our secret, don't tell anyone.

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Speaker 3: One hundred. So yeah, I'm glad. I assumed maybe you

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Speaker 3: knew about the Madonna.

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Speaker 4: In but just to give like a visual like the

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Speaker 4: Madonna and is like a kitchy kind of oculent like

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Speaker 4: sixties housewife meets like Marie and Twinette sort of vibe that.

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Speaker 1: That sounds right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 1: It's like the rooms are like different themed decor. Some

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Speaker 1: of them are like going into a cave. And first

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Speaker 1: of all, they have a great bakery there with gorgeous cakes.

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Speaker 1: The carpeting is just like colorful flowers and just it's

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Speaker 1: like a it's my favorite kind of decor personally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very maximalist, very sure and retro so retro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody should go. I love it. It's incredible and you

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Speaker 3: should get the champagne cake.

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Speaker 1: Yes, totally little insider and they have really good sweet

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Speaker 1: potato fries. Okay, and it's a great place to get

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Speaker 1: Okay. So what happened? They got ghosts too?

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Speaker 4: We decided me and my partner Dan, for our anniversary

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Speaker 4: Pretend we're at a resort for a second, well the

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Speaker 4: Pool and I'm wearing like this white zebra swimsuit and

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Speaker 4: And so we end up going and having a drink

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Speaker 4: do you ever see that movie The Haunting? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and they come alive?

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Speaker 4: So like that's creepy enough as it is. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: It like felt like movements like that, And it was just.

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Speaker 3: It was the feeling.

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Speaker 3: Like super pissed. It's like it's that guy was snoring

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Speaker 4: We're eating like whatever food was in the mini fridge,

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Speaker 4: And then I don't hear about the dream until the

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Speaker 4: us up totally completely. I'm never going back to that room.

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Speaker 1: I think it was one of these TikTok people. They

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Speaker 3: In that room one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Doing some weird TikTok witch dance. Oh my god, that

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Speaker 3: It was scary.

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Speaker 1: I was would you ever go back and stay?

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Speaker 2: Now? I'm that room.

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Speaker 4: I love the Madonna in I'm going to make a

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Speaker 4: gamble on some other rooms, but I'm not going back there. Like, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it may not have even been

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Speaker 1: Well, And like, as I've said a million times, a hotel,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that place has been open since nineteen fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: It's like something weird, yeah, or bad or tragic or

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Speaker 3: So exactly it.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense that every hotel would have some kind of

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Yeah. Again, I researched.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything, but you know, I have my

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Speaker 4: next time you go to the Madonna in it's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is this story about you brought a ghost

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: In this area, there's a place called Los Olivos. It's

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Speaker 4: And I was recording out there in this kind of

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Speaker 1: Because you're a musician, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And my friend Bear was recording me and he walks

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Speaker 3: Because that was weird. And so I go back home.

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Speaker 4: Feeling a little eky, but like I'm okay, And really

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, well that's weird, that's creepy.

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Speaker 3: And like it's probably just me. I don't know, my.

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Speaker 4: No, you know. I'm like, okay, well maybe it's maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm going to open up some windows. We're gonna like

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fine. And then I have two kids

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Speaker 3: Peeking around the corner, and I was like, no, Dan

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Speaker 1: Who is this weird? Like, just come out, honey, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Stop peaking.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Come out anyway. I don't know how we got them out.

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Speaker 4: I think we just opened up all the windows.

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Speaker 3: And were like, get out of here.

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Speaker 1: That's so weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just bringing ghoes home.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what that was, right.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm not crazy because at least two other

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Speaker 1: No, that's like, that's the best part for sure, to

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Speaker 1: have those other people also see this little creeper. Wow. Interesting, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you gave us the goods could thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for doing this, Wrenn.

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Speaker 4: You're very welcome, so glad to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Where can people listen to your music?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can go to ren dot com. It's

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much, Thanks for us,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, wren. Okay, this next one is a caller

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Speaker 1: named April who has stories from being a nurse and

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with us. By the way, if any of

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Speaker 1: you are nurses, doctor, like, if you work in a

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Speaker 1: I love hearing those kinds of stories. So right in, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Here's April. Oh my god, it is

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Speaker 1: April Ayowa. Hello April Helloliar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you've broad ghost stories? What is like the scariest

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so my scariest ghost story, at least it

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Speaker 2: was the scariest too experience for me, was my sister

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Speaker 2: likes to haunt me. Okay, yes, So I lost my

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Speaker 2: So for context, she's my half sister, and my dad

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Speaker 2: She's wonderful, But there was always this weird tension there

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Speaker 2: So she passes away. I went to see her husband

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Speaker 2: had left at her house, this really fuzzy soft sweater.

439
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: So I brought it home with me because it made

440
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: me feel like her. She wore it all through her cancer,

441
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: Like there's a high probability it was with her when

442
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: she died. You know, it felt not even feel close.

443
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: We couldn't have a funeral for her because COVID and

444
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, all of that stuff. And so about two

445
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: years later, I had this plant of hers as well,

446
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: and it was a jade plant. And I loved this

447
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: jade plant. I tried to take care of it. It

448
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: was huge, like you know, the stem was as big

449
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: or as big around as my thumb. And I had

450
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: a nightmare. And for context, I lucid dream. I am

451
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: almost always aware that I'm dreaming. I can pull myself

452
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: out of it sometimes, but usually I take myself on

453
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: an adventure. But this dream was terrifying. She was just

454
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: it was like bansheet esque, like I can just see

455
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: it in my mind still like black and white. Her

456
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: hair streaming out, you know, around her just screaming at me.

457
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: And I woke up and I was like, okay, that

458
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: was That was terrifying. And we were getting ready to

459
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: move into a new rental house and so I thought myself,

460
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe she's just not thriving here. I'll

461
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: take the jade plant with me to the new house.

462
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: So I go to the jade plant and I touch

463
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: it and it disintegrated. What the stem of the jade

464
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: plant just and I'm sure it had root rot right like,

465
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure it just hadn't. There was damage there I

466
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: couldn't see, but it picked that moment to do that.

467
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: I was like terrifying. So I was like, I'm not

468
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: bringing that plant into the new house. I left it outside.

469
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: I didn't bring the sweater inside. I was like, okay,

470
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: Like this is not a good experience. I talked to

471
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: my sister and that same day, she was in the

472
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: car driving and this song came on that they used

473
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: to dance too, and she was like, oh, I felt

474
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: like Melissa was here with me and we were just

475
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: dancing and singing. I was like, well it was her then,

476
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: of course, because only her would come and give you

477
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: a good time and scare the shit out of me.

478
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: So like a year later, I kept the like the

479
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: pot that the jade plant was in, and I had

480
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: it on top of a shelf. And that next Christmas,

481
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: we were watching White Christmas, which is one of her

482
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: favorite movies, and we would always sing the Sisters Sisters

483
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: song together all the time, like that was so much

484
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: fun for us. That was playing on the TV. And

485
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: I was getting some games out of the cupboard and

486
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: a picture of the three of us fell off of

487
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: the top of the shelf and snacked me in the head,

488
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: big old wooden frame and like dazed me for a minute.

489
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 2: It was I was like, okay, I'm done. And when

490
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: we moved out, like six months later, I felt like

491
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: it came from the pot. So I had put the

492
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: pot on my front porch and I wasn't messing with it.

493
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: And when we were moving out, one of the little

494
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: neighbor girls came over and she said, oh, that's pretty,

495
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: and I said, do you want it? She was like yeah,

496
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: So I haunted some small child and they're just living

497
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: their worst lives ever from my sister. But she's left

498
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: me alone. Since then.

499
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hey, yeah, little girl, have you ever

500
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: wanted a bully ghost sister comes with it?

501
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be fine. I was like, she doesn't

502
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: care to make her unhappy, just me.

503
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's really interesting to hear of like

504
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: personalities remaining as ghosts.

505
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: You know.

506
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I hope she uh, I hope she gets over that

507
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: in the afterlife.

508
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

509
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: I know.

510
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: We kind of kind of always felt like she was

511
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: just a young soul, and I hope that in her

512
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: next era that she's one step closer to happiness or

513
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: peace because she wasn't in this life.

514
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: There you go, great way to look at it. Tell

515
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: me another.

516
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: One, Okay, So I have one more like deeply emotional one.

517
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: So my mom died when I was eighteen, and one

518
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: of my biggest fears in life was always well, I

519
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: mean I remember the day that she was told trigger

520
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: warning cancer story, the day that she was told she

521
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: was terminal, and like, I was just so distraught. I

522
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: was like, and I grew up in this cultish kind

523
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: of church, so this was what I thought I had

524
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: to be in life. But I remember just crying and

525
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 2: being you know, how am I going to know how

526
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: to be a wife? How am I going to know

527
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: how to be a mom, How am I going to

528
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, how to do anything in life? And she

529
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: was just you know, comforted me in this time when

530
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: she just received those devastating news. She was there for

531
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: me in that moment. But many many years later, when

532
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: I was in college where I met my very cute

533
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: hobby but anyway, I had a feeling he was going

534
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: to propose that weekend. He was being very secretive and

535
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: very worried about getting the weekend off and we were

536
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: going camping, and I was so nervous about taking that

537
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: next step. And I had a dream that my mom

538
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: walked down the sidewalk to me, hugged me. She told me,

539
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: I believe in you. You can do this, and there

540
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: was something else. I don't remember what else she said,

541
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: but it was just like this beautiful moment. And then

542
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: after she hugged me, she walked past me towards a

543
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: light and I woke up and I was like, Oh,

544
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: it's okay. No matter what I choose, it's fine. And

545
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: she's come to me a couple more times in dreams

546
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: when I really needed it, but this is the one

547
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: that I most sharply remember.

548
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's incredible.

549
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very special name. My sister gets very mad

550
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: because she's like, happen, I don't get those dreams.

551
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

552
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: Still the favorite daughter. Okay. So I am a nurse

553
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: and one of my first jobs as a nurse, I

554
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: worked on a palette of care unit at a big hospital.

555
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: And palade of care is like the umbrella that hospice

556
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: sits under. So it's about, you know, quality of life

557
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: over quantity of life. So we had patients who were

558
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: like chronic patients, Like there was a gentleman with cystic

559
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: fibrosis and every time he would come in, he would

560
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: come into our department because we would give him the

561
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: actual pain meds he needed. He saw the same doctor

562
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: every time. We'd helped, you know, treat him and get

563
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: them on the road to recovery. And then we also

564
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: on the other end of the spectrum, had you know,

565
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: car accidents and cancers and you know, tragic scary things.

566
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: But this isn't that kind of podcast, so I'm not

567
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: going to do that to you. So we took care

568
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: of this patient and I'll call him Tim, and he

569
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: came to our department every couple of months and we

570
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: got really close and when he died. Me and a

571
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: couple other nurses went up on our day off because

572
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: the nurses who are working said, hey, just so you know,

573
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: Tim is passing away soon, if you want to come

574
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: say goodbye. So we came up to the hospital and

575
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: sat with his mom and I gave him a kiss

576
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: on the cheek and he opened his eyes for the

577
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: first time in days. It was beautiful. And when he

578
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: ended up passing away, and you know, it was just

579
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: one of those you see, I've seen hundreds and hundreds

580
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: and hundreds of deaths, but that want the one that

581
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: like sticks with me. And the last couple of times

582
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: I've gotten like very drunk, I've talked about him, and

583
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: like I feel like he still follows me, Like I

584
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: feel his presence behind me in a weird sort of way,

585
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: like I had this like protector, and the more I

586
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: verbalize it, the less I feel it. But I kind

587
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: of always it's always he's like always leaning over my shoulder,

588
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: and I really don't know what to make of that.

589
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: It's just instinct.

590
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: I love it. You obviously made a huge impression on him.

591
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he made a huge impression on me. It

592
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: was a It was an interesting job I mean, we

593
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: saw lots of lots of things, and I got really

594
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: my intuition got really sharpened, if that makes sense. Like

595
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: I could kind of tell when it was going to

596
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: happen for a patient and when they were going to pass.

597
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: You know. One time, there was this lady who was

598
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: really struggling for days and days and she was dying

599
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: of COPD and it's a struggle to breathe. But this

600
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: huge thunderstorm came in and I just felt my bones

601
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, she's going to pass away when

602
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: the storm ends. And I was one hundred percent right.

603
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: The storm rolled away, a rainbow came out, and she

604
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: passed away, and I was like, Oh, all that struggle

605
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: and she left with the storm. I just feel like

606
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: her spirit was just gathered up with it and she

607
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: left with that struggle to kind of dissipate and become

608
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: joy again.

609
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

610
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Did you notice with so much death happening all the time, Like,

611
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: were there weird ghostye kind of things that would happen around.

612
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean, hospitals are definitely haunted. Yeah, I mean anytime

613
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: you're in the hospital, I mean, all I can think

614
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: of is how many patients have died in this exact

615
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: bed I'm in. Oh, I mean, we would do and

616
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: I would always do post mortem care, which is like

617
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: the care you do after someone passes, and I would

618
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: do it kind of a special way because the family

619
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: spent so much time at the bedside and then they

620
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: pass and then they just have to leave. And they've

621
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: been by this person's physical body for days, weeks, and

622
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: now they're just supposed to leave. It's really scary. So

623
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 2: the thing that I was taught by another really good nurse,

624
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: but I would do is I would say, Okay, what's

625
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: their favorite song or favorite kind of music, And I'd

626
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: tell them I'm going to play their favorite music. I'm

627
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: going to give them one last really good bath, and

628
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: then they're going to go down to the morgue, and

629
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: then would just like explain the next steps that would happen.

630
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: So there were weird things that would happen kind of

631
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: around that, you know. A couple times I had a

632
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: call light go off and I'd go into the room

633
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: and the patient was actively passing, and I would do

634
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: rounds on the hour every hour, So I would go,

635
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: you know, because I worked nights and want to let

636
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: people sleep, you know, But you'd go in and make

637
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: sure that they were okay and they didn't need more painments.

638
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: And there was one call light that would always go

639
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: off when the patient needed it, and I'd go in

640
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: there and there was no one around, like the patient

641
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: was not capable of hitting the button. The family was

642
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: fast asleep, and the call light was in the opposite

643
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: corner of all of them. But the patient was breathing

644
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: really hard and needed some more medication. And I wouldn't

645
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: have known that for another fifteen minutes, but that little

646
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: ghost was taken care of them.

647
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Guardian Angel vibe.

648
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear all kinds of ghost stories. I want

649
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: sat for a lady, which is basically like if someone

650
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: is either like suicidal or they're really confused and they

651
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: keep trying to get out of bed. You see it

652
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: a lot with older patients to have like a bladder

653
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: infection and they get confused with it. And so I

654
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: was sitting for this patient making sure she didn't get

655
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: out of bed, and she she looks at me, just

656
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: straightened my eyes and goes mother's alonger with us?

657
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Is she?

658
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, this was weird, but I have

659
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: to sit in here the next ten hours. So that

660
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: didn't happen, and then a couple of minutes later, she

661
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: starts talking to someone in the room named Melissa, which

662
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: is the name of my dad's sister.

663
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, oh my.

664
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: God, and I just I just put it in a

665
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: box in the back of my brain because I was like,

666
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: I had to sit in here, so it can't be

667
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: real yet, it can be real later.

668
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: Would you hear stuff like that from from patients of them,

669
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: because I've told this story before about like my grandmother

670
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: was in that situation where apparently she was like she

671
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: could see that there were other people around because she

672
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: was getting closer to the you know, other side or

673
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: whatever whatever we think is the reason. But would you

674
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: hear that kind of a thing from from patients?

675
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I mean one hundred percent. The first time

676
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: I saw it was when my mom was dying and

677
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: she'd had a miscarriage before me and she. I think

678
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: it was like pretty late on, and when she had

679
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: us all at her bedside, she kept asking where her

680
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: fourth kid was, and she kept getting up and running

681
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: trying to you know, find her baby. And we really

682
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: felt like it was that child that was like stuck

683
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: with her at the end, like she went all the

684
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: way back to those memories, which was something she never

685
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: even talked about with us.

686
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

687
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: But yes, I mean once once a patient sees a

688
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: child running in their room, that it doesn't exist. I

689
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: give them like forty eight hours really, so they're either

690
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: going to have a death experience, like we might bring them.

691
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: Out of it.

692
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: But like in my experience, once you see children, it's close.

693
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: And what do you think that is? Do you think

694
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: that's their younger self? Do you think that's like just

695
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: generally speaking.

696
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there is a real spiritual

697
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: aspect to dying. And you know, I grew up in

698
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: a faith and I'm agnostic at best now, but there

699
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: really is something spiritual that's happened in that time. Now.

700
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: On one side, oxygen deprivation, right, they have less oxygen

701
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: in their brain, higher risk of hallucination. They're sometimes on

702
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: pain meds. You know, there's a risk of that, But

703
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: some of them are not coincidental, Like some of the

704
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 2: conversations that they're having, it's like they're resolving internal shit.

705
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Like I had patients who once you removed the ventilator,

706
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: they passed away within five minutes. It was the whole

707
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: family surrounding them, holding them, loving them, sometimes singing, and

708
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I had another patient who he breathed,

709
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: I am not kidding you, two to three times a

710
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: minute for a week before he died. This man was

711
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: not at peace. I had a gentleman once who the

712
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: family was at the bedside. He was there at the

713
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: start of my shift. He wanted to talk to his son.

714
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: His son stayed in the room and then came back

715
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: out like, you know, fifteen twenty minutes later, and I

716
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: stopped him and he was like, yeah, he's like I

717
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: think he needs you know, he needs cleaned up. It's like, okay, aw,

718
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: how are you doing. That was a really hard conversation,

719
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: but it was good. It was needed. And so me

720
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: and another aid, me and an aid went in there

721
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: and started giving him a bath. And he handed me

722
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: he had like in a voice box, the kind you

723
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: put up against your throat and you can so you

724
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: can talk when you don't have, you know, natural vocal cords.

725
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: And he handed it to me and mouthed, I'm done.

726
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: And then I had him rolled on his side and

727
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: I was holding him and he just died in my arms.

728
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: Like usually when they pass, it's slower, like it doesn't

729
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: happen like in the movies, like unless it's a traumatic

730
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: like gunshot trauma. Yes, maybe they're awake and alert to

731
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: the very end. But most of the time, when people

732
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: are dying, as their kidneys are shutting down, the chemicals

733
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: and their kidneys build up, or the chemicals from their

734
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: kidneys build up and kind of creates almost like a

735
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: natural anesthesia, and they get sleepier and sleepier and sleepier

736
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: until they're not really waking up at all. This is

737
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: the only one I had seen where it was like

738
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: a decision and he's like, I'm ready, I'm done. I

739
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: don't know, there's something going on.

740
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: That's so interesting, just like all right, I had the

741
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: last conversation I needed, and let's end this.

742
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: And you know, some people wouldn't They wouldn't die. They

743
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: would just just be on the edge of death for days,

744
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: and the family would finally get up and go get

745
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee or go home and take a shower,

746
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 2: and they pass away. They were gone, and they feel

747
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: so guilty, and I'd say, no, that's what they wanted.

748
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: They waited like they had plenty of time to pass away.

749
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: While you were here, but they needed to do this alone. Yeah,

750
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean you live as you die. I mean it

751
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: doesn't end at your deathbed. I mean if you were

752
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: a strong, resilient, like stubborn person, it might take you

753
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: longer than someone who's at peace. Either the body or

754
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: the spirit has to catch up one of the two.

755
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: This is so fascinating. I have never had a call

756
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: like this on this podcast. I'm so happy that you've

757
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: joined me to share this input.

758
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I kind of feel like I'm in

759
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: the matrix because this feels like too good to be happening.

760
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: This is great. Well, thank you so much for joining me, April.

761
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Roz.

762
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: Thank you April. Now we're moving on over to Juniper,

763
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: who's got all kinds of stories, including a cousin with

764
00:41:52,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: a haunted house. Take it away at Juniper. I am

765
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: joined by Juniper in Idaho. Hi Juniper, Hello, Oh my gosh,

766
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: I don't where do we start here? You've got all

767
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: kinds of stories. What's yeah, what's the spookiest one you got?

768
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: Definitely the demon girl I saw in my room.

769
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Okay, demon girls? Perfect. We have not had any demon

770
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: girls on this episode yet. Let's let's do a demon girl.

771
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so I live lived in a house that

772
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: was kind of old, but I would not think that

773
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: it would be particularly haunted. But you know, I went

774
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: to bed one night and I.

775
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: Fell asleep just like usual.

776
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: There was not anything weird going on. I just woke

777
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night and something felt weird,

778
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: something fell off. It was super dark, like darker than

779
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: it usually is, and I kind of scanned my room

780
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: and I had this smaller bookshelf across to the other wall,

781
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: and I just noticed this girl crouched in my room.

782
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 4: And she was like, think of the creepiest, like grudgiest

783
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 4: looking girl you could possibly think of, like same feel.

784
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: She had like matted hair, and like a dress. I

785
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: guess it just looked like a little girl's dress.

786
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: And when you say crouched, what do you mean.

787
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: I think like a frog ewa.

788
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: Demon frog girl?

789
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

790
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: And her eyes were completely white, like there wasn't anything there,

791
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: and she just sat there and her mouth was so creepy.

792
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 4: It was smiling like almost to her ears, and it

793
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: was this really sinister, disgusting.

794
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: Smile.

795
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: So I mean, what do I do.

796
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: I do what I always do. I put the covers.

797
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: Over my head, and I am breathing super heavy. It's

798
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 4: super gross underneath the covers because I'm breathing so heavy,

799
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 4: and I I'm just like, holy shit, this is got

800
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: to be a dream, right, Like, there's no.

801
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: Way this is real.

802
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: And I decided that I was going to pull my

803
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: covers off because I'm very brave. And I looked across

804
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 4: the room again and nobody's there. It's just normal again.

805
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, okay, must have been like

806
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: some sort of waking dream, you know, like maybe I

807
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: wasn't awake all the way. So I get up and

808
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: I go use a bathroom, get a drink because you know,

809
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: I've had bad dreams before, and then I get sucked

810
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 4: back into the bad dream when I go back to sleep.

811
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: So now when I have a bad dream, I just

812
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: go walk around and try to wake myself up a

813
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: little bit.

814
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: So I don't do that.

815
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: So I get a drink of water, come back upstairs

816
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: to where my room is, go back to sleep, like

817
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 4: not easily because I was terrified, but go back to sleep,

818
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: and then I wake up again. I have no idea

819
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: how long I've been asleep. It's weird again, like the

820
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: room is super dark again. It's really gross feeling in there.

821
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: And I look across the room again to see if

822
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: that chick is there, and I don't see her, but

823
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: I do notice that there's this weird like gray light

824
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: kind of emanating from the side of my bed where

825
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm sleeping, and I look down.

826
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: She's there again.

827
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 4: I can only see like the top of her head,

828
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: but I can still see her smiling at me. And

829
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: she's just sitting there, just staring at me. So I screamed,

830
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: put the covers over my head again, and then.

831
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: I I think I called for my sister, who did

832
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: not come. And yeah, I just stayed underneath the covers.

833
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: After that, I.

834
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 4: Did not even bother to try and like breathe normal air.

835
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: After that, I was like, I'm staying under here. And

836
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: then I woke up the next morning.

837
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Did she ever come back? Or was this just a

838
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: one night thing?

839
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: It was a one night thing. I don't know what

840
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: the deal was. That was the scariest thing that's ever

841
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: happened to me.

842
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: That is so creepy. What was she doing.

843
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: Just staring at me? I don't I have no idea.

844
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: Were you like super stressed? Like what do we think

845
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: this was Where did it come from?

846
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: I have been told that because I was kind of

847
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 4: a little depressy at the time.

848
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: I have been told that.

849
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know if I believe this, but like

850
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: low level kind of seen anythings. We'll try to like

851
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: suck the energy out of you if you have, like

852
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: if you're having some mental health issues. Yeah, and that's

853
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 4: kind of.

854
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: What people I've talked to has said about that. But

855
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: I other than that, I have no idea.

856
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's or almost like a manifestation of your darkness

857
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: or something.

858
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, I something terrifying.

859
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: Because yeah, it doesn't seem like it's the kind of

860
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: thing that might have been attached to like your house.

861
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: It was just like a one night thing.

862
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I that's kind of why if I do

863
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: believe in it, I kind of think it's the like

864
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: maybe something was like, oh, she's depressed. I'm going to

865
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 4: scare the shit.

866
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Out What an asshole? I hate that girl.

867
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: Oh I know me too.

868
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: Let me tell you tell me about.

869
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see.

870
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 4: So this happened a little bit before before that girl.

871
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: So I was an EMT for a while and I

872
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 4: worked at a coffee shop and I was on call

873
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: that day after my shift at the coffee shop, and

874
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: I was just laying in my bed, like I was

875
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: just messing around on my phone and you know, doing

876
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: whatever I was doing that time, and my sister and

877
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: her boyfriend were downstairs, which is I think directly below

878
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 4: where my room was. They're downstairs with my sister's dog,

879
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: and they hear like a crash upstairs, and the next

880
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: thing they hear is heavy footsteps walking down the hall

881
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: and then to the stairs, and her dog, who doesn't

882
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: like you know it, gets up, walks over to the

883
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: stairs and does that like, you know, the playful yoga move,

884
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: and does like this playful bark up the stairs. And

885
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: so her boyfriend and her walk over to the stairs.

886
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: There's nobody there, and it creeped my sister out. So

887
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: she walks up the stairs and to my room and.

888
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: Basically she's like, hey, did you just fall.

889
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: And I was like no, I've been sitting on my

890
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 4: bed for like an hour now, and she was like okay,

891
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: well and explained what she had heard, and I just

892
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: looked at her. I was like, get out of my room, Like,

893
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: get this bad juju out of my room right now.

894
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: I do not want to hear. And so yeah, that

895
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: was the thing that was really creepy. Though it is

896
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: nice that her dog didn't think it was creepy. Does

897
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: that make sense?

898
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: This was the same demon girl house. Yes, I wonder

899
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: if it was her. Maybe the demon girl liked dogs

900
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: and was nice to dogs.

901
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: You know what, It's really a red flag if a

902
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: ghost didn't like a dog.

903
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean smiling at you with white eyes

904
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: is kind of a red flag too. But at least

905
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: she liked dogs, so that's good.

906
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, just one redeeming quality.

907
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: What's your cat story?

908
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 4: Kind Of around the same time, actually, I was again

909
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 4: on call, So.

910
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm starting to think your house was haunted.

911
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: I wonder, you know what that might be, that you

912
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 4: might be onto something there. So it was around the

913
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: same time I was on call again. So I was

914
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: just sitting on my bed and we had this faster

915
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: cat and he very sweet, very cuddly, always wanted attention,

916
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 4: like not a mean bone in this cat's body. Right,

917
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there, he's on my hip and suddenly

918
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 4: he claws me, jumps off the bed, and then starts

919
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: circling my bed like literally like just a perfect circle

920
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: around my bed, and his hair was all sticking up

921
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: and his tail was all puffed up, and he's like

922
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: growling at something at the foot of my bed, Like

923
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 4: he wasn't growling at me, he was growling at something

924
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: on my bed, and I was just like, you know,

925
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go downstairs. I hate this, And so that's

926
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 4: kind of what happened. And then right after that, that's

927
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: when the dog thing happened.

928
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: You lived in a full unhunted house.

929
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

930
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

931
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

932
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: It had one of those really creepy mudrooms that was

933
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: like cut out of the walls.

934
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was haunted.

935
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, something happened in there with a demon girl.

936
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

937
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: What is the story of your cousin's haunted house?

938
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: This one is really weird, but it's also kind of funny.

939
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: So my sister was moving into my cousin's house.

940
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: It was all the way in.

941
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: East Coast, so I drove with her.

942
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: We get to the house.

943
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it's like the second or third

944
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: day we're staying there. I'm sleeping on my sister's bed.

945
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 4: It's also Charlestown, West Virginia, which is just super haunted anyways,

946
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 4: And I'm just on my bed with my headphones in

947
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: and my sister's doing the same thing, and with my

948
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: headphones on, I could hear somebody walk up the stairs,

949
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: like heavy footsteps again, walking up the stairs and then

950
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: around the corner to where our bed is, and I

951
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: literally took my headphones out and was like, is there

952
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 4: somebody there? Like I was expecting somebody to just like pot.

953
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: Their head out.

954
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, that was super weird. And

955
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: then my sister was like I heard it too, and

956
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: I was like, oh. And my cousin, who is super

957
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: spiritual and believes that her house is already haunted, and

958
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: my sister texted her. She didn't know she was a

959
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: sleep or not, so she just texted her, and my

960
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: cousin flies up the stairs with sage and starts just

961
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 4: like staging the entire attic where my sister's new room was,

962
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: and she's like, I don't like this.

963
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't like this.

964
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't like this. And it set the fire alarms off.

965
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: And then because they.

966
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: Have like eighty whatever that security thing is, the fire

967
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: department came, Oh my god, and that was really awkward,

968
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: Like I heard the engine come and I was like,

969
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: that sounds like a fire truck, guys, and they were

970
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no no. And so like

971
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: this dude had to check the house at like twelve

972
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: thirty at night because my cousin stage.

973
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: Did he have ghosts busting equipment because that would that

974
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: would help too.

975
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she does. She actually like records the attic

976
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: sometimes because it's kind of the most haunted place, I

977
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: think in the house, So she like has weird recordings.

978
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: So when this happened and your sister texted your cousin,

979
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 1: your cousin was fully aware that there's like some some

980
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of ghost up there anyway, right, yeah, oh god,

981
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: So what does she say happens in that house?

982
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 4: So Charlestown was, you know, like a Confederate place, and

983
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 4: then it turned over to the Union and then it

984
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 4: just kept slip flopping. But there's also like some I

985
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: don't know if this is going to make sense, but

986
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 4: like traditional cultural stuff that came over with the enslaved

987
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: people and then the freed. So what my cousin says

988
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: is she saw like a woman with like an African

989
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: face mask that was like charging her husband. And this

990
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 4: was also in the attic where my sister's room was

991
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 4: like charging her husband, and that is verifying, and she

992
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: said it seemed to her like it was some sort

993
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: of like shaman kind of person.

994
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, so she's.

995
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: Seen that, and then like there's also just like footsteps

996
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: that happened throughout the house.

997
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: She has videos of weird shadowy.

998
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: Things that happened in the house. One time, my sister

999
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 4: was up there painting with my cousin and my cousin

1000
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 4: was like, I literally just saw shadow right behind you.

1001
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: So you know, it's pretty haunted.

1002
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, after the moving in in the sage incident, good

1003
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: for your sister for being like, Okay, I'm just gonna

1004
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: stay here now.

1005
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: Very brave, very brave. We're all so brave.

1006
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: So do you have any other stories you want to share?

1007
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: The only thing I can really think is that it's

1008
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 4: pretty tame. But I used to wake up and see

1009
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: shadow figures all the time, and they like followed me

1010
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: from state to state. So I was in Idaho and

1011
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: I woke up one day I was training to be

1012
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 4: to work on a helicopter. WHOA, Yeah, I had worked

1013
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: out that day and it was a pretty hard workout,

1014
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 4: and my back was sore and my legs were sore,

1015
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: and I just I went to bed and I just

1016
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: wasn't feeling the greatest. Woke up in the middle of

1017
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 4: the night. Also side note, same house. This is the

1018
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: same house where the demon girl is.

1019
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: Uh, here we go.

1020
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1021
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, woke up in the middle of the night. There's

1022
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 4: just this like black mass standing over my bed and like,

1023
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: I assume just watching me sleep like a creeper. And

1024
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: literally I must have zero self preservation because I just

1025
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: sat up in bed said buck off, my back hurts

1026
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: and went back to sleep, rolled over.

1027
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Like and was the demon mass like my bad? Sorry?

1028
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, I mean I had I didn't see him

1029
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: the rest of the time I lived in that house,

1030
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: so I assumed that he you know, the scolding was

1031
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: good enough. But I ended up moving to Oregon, to Bend,

1032
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: Oregon into a completely different house and it wasn't even

1033
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: an old house, like, it was just a normal house.

1034
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: And I I woke up and I saw the mass again,

1035
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: but in the corner of the room. It wasn't as

1036
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: close to me this time, and.

1037
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: I, well, yeah, it was scared that you were gonna

1038
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: snap at it.

1039
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: Well, this time I stood up on my bed. I

1040
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: literally stood up on my bed, looked at it and

1041
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: was like hey, and it disappeared, and I just like

1042
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: blinked for a second, and I was like, what the

1043
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 4: hell am I doing yelling at nothing?

1044
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: Hey?

1045
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: It worked, Yeah it did.

1046
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: You know what, You just got to stand up for yourself.

1047
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's kind.

1048
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: Of like when you encounter a bear, like you're supposed

1049
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: to like be as big as possible. I think, yeah,

1050
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: that's true. I don't know.

1051
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what you're supposed to to something.

1052
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you stand on a bed, Yeah, you're

1053
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna show that thing. I'm actually huge, Yeah exactly.

1054
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: But then I was in Nevada and I was staying

1055
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: with the guy I was dating at the time, and

1056
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 4: we're just sleeping in bed and I wake up again.

1057
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: I see this dark mass in the corner of the room.

1058
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: And I haven't told this person that I have experienced anything, right, Like,

1059
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: we're still it's like the beginning of our relationship a

1060
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 4: little bit, and I sit up in bed, didn't even

1061
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: think about it, sat up in bed, yelled, hey, what

1062
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: are you doing? And then it goes away and the guy,

1063
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 4: the guy I was dating at the time was like,

1064
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: what the hell? I was like, Oh, god, bad dream.

1065
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: It's fine, bad dream. I had a bad dream.

1066
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: Well that's good you were able to to get out

1067
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: of that and not have to be like just so

1068
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's a sometimes this happens. Yeah, I'm a

1069
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: little quirky.

1070
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: I hope it's not a deal breaker.

1071
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: Good for you that you were standing up for yourself

1072
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: against that mass, right, that's very inspiring.

1073
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: I hope to be inspiring for everybody.

1074
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me, gen Nipper.

1075
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: These are great stories. Thank you, Thank you, Juniper. And

1076
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: our final caller today is Katie, who's got some stories

1077
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: about STD haunting, some spooky trespassing. Let's get to that now.

1078
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: Here's Katie. Oh my god, Katie from Denver. Hello, how

1079
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: are you?

1080
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm Weilras, how are you?

1081
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: I am very excited because you sent me an email

1082
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: with your stories and you gave them titles including a

1083
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: sexually transmitted haunting and doll heads hanging from the ceiling.

1084
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: And I need to hear what these are all about.

1085
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I'm so thrilled to tell you.

1086
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Which one do we start with?

1087
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: It's definitely gonna be dell Heads hanging from the ceiling.

1088
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 3: So this story is like late teen's early twenties Shenanigan.

1089
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: So I just want to make sure everyone knows like

1090
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm older, now, I'm wiser. Now, these are not things

1091
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: that I would do again, but I did it in

1092
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: this experience. Okay, So my childhood friend, we'll call her Anita,

1093
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: brought me to her cousin's house we'll call him Brandon.

1094
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: It is even more in the sixth than where I

1095
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: grew up, Like I grew up in a very small town,

1096
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: and then we traveled to an even smaller town that

1097
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 3: doesn't even have a walmart to hang out. Does that

1098
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: make sense?

1099
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1100
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 3: So we delivered papers in the middle of the night

1101
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: in Brandon. It's basically like a band slash drum studio.

1102
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 3: There was a full drum set in the back. Did

1103
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: we pause to play the drums?

1104
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

1105
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 3: Anyways, so we deliver these papers it's the middle of

1106
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: the night, and then we pick up a few of

1107
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: his friends. We'll call one of them. Side show Pat

1108
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: Corbyn and a girl named Toothpaste. That was her nickname.

1109
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: Apparently she's nicknamed Toothpaste because she styled her hair with toothpaste,

1110
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: and it rained once and Bob or Brandon like shook

1111
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: her head and it foamed like toothpaste. So we decided

1112
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: to go back to his mom's house to hang because

1113
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: we are but children, and since it was so late,

1114
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: we didn't want to wake up with mom. So we

1115
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: did what any self respecting early twenty something would do,

1116
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: and we climbed into a one person tent with like

1117
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: six people to hot box. It was smoking weed out

1118
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: of a mannequin arm. Okay, it did require two people

1119
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: to operate it, but we sufficiently all got lit, and

1120
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: we decided to go on an adventure and stretch our legs.

1121
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1122
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: So Brandon takes us up to his neighbor's house. And

1123
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: this is the kind of like neighborhood where like your

1124
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: neighbor's house is like a five minute walk. So we

1125
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: go to this house and he proceeds to tell us

1126
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: the story about how this guy was a total of acluse.

1127
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: No one ever saw him or really knew anything about him,

1128
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: and last winter he had paid someone to come take

1129
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: trees down on his property, and I guess perhaps they

1130
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: got into like some kind of altercation, and the guy

1131
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: shoots the other guy in the head. We had a

1132
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: shotgun and then turned it on himself, and then it

1133
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: snowed and nobody found the bodies for like a week.

1134
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, banana pans. So we get in there.

1135
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: We get there and there are bathtub Mary's everywhere. Have

1136
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: you ever seen a bathtub Mary?

1137
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 4: No?

1138
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: What's a bathtub Mary?

1139
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: I think this might be specifically an upstate New York thing,

1140
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: but it's basically like an old school like claw foot tub.

1141
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: And then he's very like, you know what I mean?

1142
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: And then he shove a Mary in it, and you're like,

1143
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: bathtub Mary, what you shove?

1144
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1145
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: Like a mayor a statue of marrying Yes? Got okay.

1146
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was like, oh, you know you know

1147
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: that girl, she's a Bethtop Mary, if you know what

1148
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I don't know.

1149
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: It's a very weird statue thing that you only pretty

1150
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: much see in upstadium.

1151
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.

1152
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: So those are everywhere, and there's also like a whole

1153
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 3: bunch of sheds and like those giant storage containers all

1154
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: over the place. So Brandon and side show pat are

1155
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: like dirty little punks who love to get into stuff

1156
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: they have no business being in. So they lead us

1157
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: on this exploratory venture into one of the sheds just

1158
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 3: to see what's in there. And it was like a

1159
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: hoard's dream in there, all kinds of trashy treasures and

1160
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: like it was just amazing. Our little stone souls were like,

1161
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's like a giant garage sale. But

1162
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: no one's watching us. So we're creeping through all of

1163
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: the things, and there was a couple things that really

1164
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: appealed to us, Like I remember side show. Pat was like,

1165
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: saw this. Sheally, it's like basically like one of those

1166
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: walking sticks that looks like a leopar on my own it.

1167
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: So he grabbed that. I found a mirror that had

1168
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: elf on it that said looking good like that alien

1169
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: show from like the eighties.

1170
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yaz Alf, didn't he eat cats or something? Yes, okay, yes.

1171
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: So we grabbed a couple of those things, and then

1172
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: we went to the next storage container and everybody was

1173
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 3: just kind of like peeking in boxes and like shuffling

1174
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: things around the see if there was anything cool. And

1175
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: I looked up because I could see that there were

1176
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: things hanging from the ceiling and I was the only

1177
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: one who seemed to notice it. And I was like,

1178
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: oh my god, I found treasure. Like it's just like

1179
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: I'm the only one who's seeing that. I'm so excited.

1180
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: So I climbed up on a thing to get a

1181
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: closer look and ros this entire shed is covered on

1182
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: the ceiling with bags and all of them have dull

1183
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: heads in them.

1184
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: Creepy.

1185
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: It was the previous thing I've ever seen. I feel

1186
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: like if I had known in the future that I

1187
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: would be listening to your podcast, I would have grabbed

1188
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: as many as I could. Just send them to you

1189
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: so you could sell them money.

1190
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: Now send them to me. We talk about that here,

1191
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: and for anyone listening I talk about ghosts and dolls,

1192
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: do not send them to me, please.

1193
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm glad that I didn't collect any of them.

1194
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: So at that point, Anita and I start to like

1195
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: find a little bit of sense in the haze and

1196
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: realize that maybe this isn't the best idea that we

1197
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: are in the space and like going to this man's saying.

1198
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 3: So we managed to convince the rest of the group

1199
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: that is time to head back to the house and

1200
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: leave this clearly deranged man's things along. So once we

1201
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: get back to the house, we piled back into the

1202
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: van slash drum studio, into regroup and kind of settle

1203
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: in for doing absolutely nothing in the country. So we're

1204
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: all laughing and telling stupid stories, and I kept noticing

1205
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 3: and knocking sound happening, but like the van is off,

1206
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: it's not on, it's not running. It is like the

1207
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: wee hours of the morning. It's got to be like

1208
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: three four o'clock in the morning at this point. So

1209
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: at first I was like, well, maybe we're being too loud,

1210
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 3: and maybe like his mom heard us and she's knocking

1211
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: on van, like shut up, you freaking yahoos, get out

1212
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: of here. So I told Brandon to go check outside

1213
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: the van and there was nothing out there. So we

1214
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: all get like super quiet, and I think we're all

1215
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: feeling like a little freaked out in traps because there's

1216
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: like six of us in the back of the sand

1217
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: with a drum set. We're like, oh, maybe we are

1218
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: all not as comfortable as we once were. But we

1219
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: didn't want to leave the van because like, who was

1220
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: knocking on the van right? So out of nowhere, it

1221
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 3: sounds like something heavy land on the top of the van.

1222
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: Oh to the point of where like the van door

1223
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: slides open, and we all still out over on top

1224
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: of each other, like we are under intact, clearly, we

1225
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: are absolutely tanned, and we're screaming, and then like eventually

1226
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: we all calmed down and like there's nothing around. Anita

1227
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: was convinced somehow that it was like one of the

1228
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: boys mossing with off and she was not having it,

1229
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: so she like yelled at everyone and dragged me back

1230
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: in the house to go to bend. So I closed

1231
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: the door, and I was halfway through the kitchen and

1232
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: I heard that fricking door open on its own, like

1233
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: just the slow, creepy like creak and push open, and

1234
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, no, no no no.

1235
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: That porch that you have to go in has a

1236
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: super loud screen door on it, so there's no way

1237
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: that somebody opened that screen door, crept in and pushed

1238
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: it open back slightly and got out without me seeing it,

1239
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: because I wasn't that far from the door. So now

1240
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: I'm a little panicked, kind of like nope, I'm just

1241
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: going to go to bed. It's fine. So later we

1242
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 3: heard that there was like some kind of kerfuffle with

1243
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: corbon and toothpaste and Twothespace had like this massive like

1244
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: mental breakdown and she lost her mind. So they drove

1245
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 3: her home, and as soon as they drove like and

1246
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: got off his street, she was totally fine. It is

1247
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: very strange, like she was emotionally possessed, is the best

1248
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 3: way to put it, Like full blown melt down toothpaste

1249
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: four tooth days. But she went home to her roommate,

1250
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: so she's okay. So all night long, Anita and I

1251
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: hear gentle knocking out of bedroom window and she's still

1252
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: convinced that the boys are messing with us. She slept

1253
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: down me I laid there awake until the sun came

1254
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: out because I was like panicked. And the next day,

1255
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: we were all heading home and we all just kind

1256
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: of like sat together in a circle and we're like,

1257
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: so we should take the things back, right, Like no

1258
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: one should take these links home. And we all just

1259
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: kind of like held hands and we're like, hey, we're

1260
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: like so sorry, like please please don't follow us home.

1261
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: We're going to bring the things back and like we

1262
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 3: will never speak of this ever again except for right

1263
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: now on a podcast. And we were just like all

1264
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: them now.

1265
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: So it makes me think that like the city or whoever,

1266
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: like tried to take all that stuff out of there

1267
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: and clear out the property. That stuff started happened to them,

1268
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: and then they just brought it back too, and that's

1269
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: and it's probably still there to this day because people

1270
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: every time they take it. This is my in my mind,

1271
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: this is what's going on there.

1272
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: That is some small town goodness like that would just

1273
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: become like the town's junkyard.

1274
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1275
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 3: They're like, we can't take anything, but we'll just put

1276
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 3: more things there.

1277
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you take it, you will get knocks

1278
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: on your windows and doors will open, and your friend

1279
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: toothpaste will have a mental breakdown.

1280
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, So pro tip is like, don't go to

1281
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: a murder scene and take stuff like that's not and

1282
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 3: maybe get a proper smoking apparatus because nothing good comes

1283
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: from the smoking out of a mannekin arm.

1284
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh guy, let's hear the Sexually Transmitted Haunting. Have you

1285
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 1: ever seen the movie it follows?

1286
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: No?

1287
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: Is it spooky?

1288
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's one of the scariest movies I've

1289
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: ever seen. And it's literally like about sexually transmitted goes basically,

1290
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's what this story is.

1291
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Tell me what this one is?

1292
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna watch that movie, so thank you for

1293
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: telling me about it. So I traveled back to my

1294
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: hometown and upstate New York to support my dad to

1295
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: a surgery that I was having. So I was there

1296
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks. So naturally, the first round

1297
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: of divorces had started for my generation. So an old

1298
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: friend had resurfaced, and like, all of a sudden, he's

1299
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: like making these proclamations and being in love with me

1300
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, and how great I am. Yeah,

1301
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I am You're going through a divorce.

1302
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 3: How cue. So since I was staying with my parents

1303
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: and he was technically living in a camper in the

1304
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: backyard of the second guy whoever proposed to me, which

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: was a whole other small town thing, I felt it

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01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: was best to like find a secondary location to hang

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Speaker 3: out in yeah, because I was bored and there's nothing

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 3: to do in that town. So I headed to the

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: local Walmart for some beer and like a coach blanket

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Speaker 3: and other supplies, and I took him to my favorite

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Speaker 3: stargazing spots. I have been visiting this space for like

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Speaker 3: fifteen years. It's a gorgeous church built in seventeen sixty nine.

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Speaker 3: It originally burned down once, but then it was restored.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've spent like a lot of hours at

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Speaker 3: this space. That's absolutely these There are issues my whole life,

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 3: but I've always gone alone, which I think I had

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01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: something to do with it. So when I brought my

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 3: little like nostalgic romantic interest to my super secret, amazing

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01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 3: stargazing spot, he was like, immediately creeped out. I guess

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 3: not everyone loves an old church surrounded by cornfield in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Might just be me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. That's not my thing. But I love

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Speaker 1: people that love that, and I support everyone.

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01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: I will one day take photos and I will send

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01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: them to you. Okay, I felt super comfortable, but because

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: he was so creeped out, it kind of started to

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: creep me out. So we stayed for like an hour,

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: had a few beers under the stars, and then he

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: decided like he couldn't sit amongst the cornfield any longer,

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: so we moved to a secondary location to make that

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01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 3: portion of the story very short. Turns out, he was

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01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: an asshole. It was a very short lived there, and

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Speaker 3: when I returned home to my super cozy apartment in Virginia,

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: I suddenly became like a bit of a hot spot

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: haunting wise. Highlights were stuff like I felt like I

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: was always being chased up the stairs. I'd never had

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: that feeling before. There was knocking on my back door,

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 3: which was really creepy because I was on a second

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 3: story apartment in the middle of like a bunch of rowhouses,

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01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: so you had to like creepily get through all of

1342
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: these different backyards and climb up like this deck back

1343
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: porch thing that was super unstable, like it was very shaky.

1344
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go on it, so like nobody could have

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: done it without like the whole thing be shaking by

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01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: the time I got there. Like it was just a

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: very cool not the vine. And then for some reason,

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: this haunting hated my bathroom decor and it would like

1349
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 3: regularly chalk around anything breakable in there and just like

1350
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 3: mash my cute little trinkets what I had, but only

1351
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: in the bathroom. I don't understand, but Okay, so I

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: was doing my absolute wafe to kind of ignore it

1353
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 3: and hope that it would just like I don't know,

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 3: Lucien or maybe like move on its own. And I'm

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: a little bit witchy in nature, so I regularly shop

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 3: at like metaphysical shops like incense and crystals and stuff.

1357
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to ignore my ghostly issues and shops

1358
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: for like a nice incense, but I think might counts

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: my home. And I got approached by a psychic who

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: works at the store and they start waving their hands

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: around me like they're shooting something away, and they look

1362
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: me dead in the eyes and they're like, child, where

1363
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: have you been? And I was like, ooh, bitch, no,

1364
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 3: oh no. So immediately I was like, oh, this whitch things.

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 3: She's gonna scam me. She's gonna try to sell me

1366
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: something or like, you know, get me to buy some

1367
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 3: expensive candle or something. And I'm like, not today, not me,

1368
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: so tiy dollar, I haven't been anywhere. And I tried

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: to go back to my shopping and then she asked

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: me did you recently travel home? And I was like, oh,

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: uh oh, how does she know that? And I'm like shit.

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: So then this other psychic shows up and joins the

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: conversation and start saying something about an entity that died

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: of some kind of plague attached to me. The first

1375
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: psychic like didn't agree, and they started arguing about it,

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 3: like in front of me. So I'm just standing there

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 3: while these two psychics argue over like what my problem

1378
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: is when I have not yet to acknowledge that I

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: have a problem. At this point, I'm like, yeah, I

1380
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: gotta go, like I'm just gonna leave, like y'all have

1381
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: your argument. I will talk to you some other time.

1382
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 3: And before I leave, the first psychic is like, did

1383
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: you recently spend time in or were you really close

1384
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 3: to the cemetery? And I turned around all facty, like

1385
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: I think I would know if I was around a cemetery.

1386
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 3: I was not around a cemetery, And she's like, are

1387
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 3: you sure? And I was like, legit, I would now.

1388
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 3: So I get back into my car and I was like,

1389
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: like a little fuming. I was like, how dare she

1390
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: like not think I even know like where I've been,

1391
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 3: or like I wouldn't know if I was in a cemetery.

1392
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: I know better. And then I'm sitting in the car

1393
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 3: and I realized that church has a cemetery behind her.

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1395
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 3: I don't ever go back there, but it's me there

1396
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: and I had to go back in with like my

1397
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: tail between my legs and oh.

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: Remember me, I'm so sorry.

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01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: I would like to buy whatever you have.

1400
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, five hundred dollars for a candle? Okay, fine, what

1401
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: how do I get rid of this?

1402
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: For real? Though?

1403
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: So she ended up actually giving me a very like

1404
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: well priced it was like charcoal discs and like a

1405
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: very cheap, loose incense. But I to you and thankfully,

1406
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: at the same time, my friend Julie had just done

1407
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 3: some kind of like ritual course of something, so she

1408
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 3: actually came over and hung out with me, and we

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: prepared like a whole little ritual and we kind of

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: just politely vanished the entity where like you get me

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 3: so back to wherever you're from. But yeah, basically I

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: feel like the pro tip for this one is like,

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: don't drink beers and hook up at an old church

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: for the cemetery behind it in a cornfield in front

1415
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: of it. And the bonus tip is like there's a

1416
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: reason why they're getting divorced, and like maybe don't hang

1417
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: out with them just full package.

1418
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: So, I mean, you had been there a million times

1419
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: and then the one difference is that you brought this

1420
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: guy do you think that, like, I don't know the

1421
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: spirits there were mad about that or why do you

1422
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: think this happened this time?

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01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: And I think they roman because like is some sacriligious

1424
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: ship in front of that church?

1425
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.

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01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty stealthy about that. And I apologize would

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 3: never again. They're out of ten. Do not recommend.

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01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: Well, this is great. You're a lot of fun. Thank

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: you so much for your stories.

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much for your peach

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01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 3: and I can't wait to listen to all of your

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 3: episodes forever until the end of time.

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: Yay, thank you. Stay away from mannequin arms, will do.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 1: What a wonderful episode. Thank you so much to Rin, April, Juniper,

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Speaker 1: and Katie. Once again, please submit your stories to Ghosted

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. I love you all both living

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Speaker 1: in ed. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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Speaker 1: Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was

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Speaker 1: mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My

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Speaker 1: guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support

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Speaker 1: from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music

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Speaker 1: the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia

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Speaker 1: Hart Start, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.