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Speaker 1: It's Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Here we are twentieth episode of Off the Edge of

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Man, we're here twenty look at us go.

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Speaker 2: Not only gonna we talk about the SC championship game,

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Speaker 2: which you know, Baltimore Ravens versus the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the NFC championship game. Nick Bosa Bowling,

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Speaker 2: Our Grades Bowling, Eric Arsten Bowling. And then we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about you know who they played in the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Tough to watch it, but we'll talk about.

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Speaker 1: It as well as you know.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna get my guy, Caveon Thibodeau, Young Buck,

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Speaker 2: Young Bull with the first you know, ten plus sax

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Speaker 2: season this past season, his second year, turning it up,

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Speaker 2: turning it on often his second year in the league.

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Speaker 2: Cavon Thibodeau, Now, let's get into the East Conference championship games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I had picked Now.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, I was like, I don't care who wins,

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Speaker 2: Like if the Saints Saint in the I don't care

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Speaker 2: who wins. But in my mind I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: well it's really like Saint Smidwest with Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn. You know you've got Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, Alex

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Speaker 2: Anzelone even you know a former og of mine that

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Speaker 2: played at cal defensive and opposite of me, tyson A.

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Speaker 2: Lulu had got activated and played in the game and

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Speaker 2: even had a sack shout out to my dog tyson O.

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Speaker 2: Lulu and Detroit looked like they were convincingly winning in

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Speaker 2: the first half, and then the Niners woke up the

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Speaker 2: giant that they are and got to putting the beat

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Speaker 2: down on Detroit, which Detroit still had chances to win

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was an exciting game.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those games that you can talk

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Speaker 2: about and like, dang, I did not see this one coming. Uh,

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Speaker 2: just like you did in the AFC Championship game with

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Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift. Every three series they

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Speaker 2: show her, which I have.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel no, no, no way about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really.

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Speaker 2: Know her music, but I I'm rooting for my friends,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I know Travis Kelsey pretty pretty well.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think Charles Men who is was bawling up until

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Speaker 2: he got hurt in the game. On the other side,

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Speaker 2: you know Marcus Williams, you know Lamar Jackson, You've got

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Speaker 2: Arthur Malett.

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Speaker 1: Formerly of the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Over there, there's guys you can root for. So I

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Speaker 2: was rooting for individuals, and yet I was still like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Lamar Jackson, do one. Pat Mahomes has like two,

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Speaker 2: has been in three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: But to no avail. Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Pat Mahome Boy then showed up and showed out. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: you know, Len Leven targets level receptions. Travis Kelsey showed

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Speaker 2: up and showed out. You know, Marquz, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: gonna try that one. For all discounting Scantling Valdez, it's

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Speaker 2: one of the two had the game ceiling catch and

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Speaker 2: that was it. Somehow, some way, the Chiefs when they

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Speaker 2: hit the playoffs, they hit it and stride Chris Jones,

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Speaker 2: killer Monster, George Carter loftus baller.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why the Chiefs have been four Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls in the last six years. Is it crazy? You

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Speaker 2: can't count him out. Don't count him out. That's a

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Speaker 2: problem if you do.

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Speaker 1: So on that note, we're just gonna talk about my

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Speaker 1: guests coming up.

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Speaker 2: Got the young buck, young bull, guy from the Giants,

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Speaker 2: got drafted out of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Talented, top five pick at number five.

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Speaker 4: A young bull, young gun, a young.

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Speaker 2: Killer off the edge, Cavon Thibodeaux from from Oregon. You know,

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Speaker 2: fifth pick overall in twenty twenty two. Second year ran

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Speaker 2: boy went for more than ten sacks, Bro, I just

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Speaker 2: appreciate you tapping in with me. I mean beyond sacks.

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Speaker 2: You know you still pushed in another fifty tackles.

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Speaker 1: You know what to work.

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Speaker 2: We played all this year and you know you were

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Speaker 2: a menace. You were a minis on the line. I

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Speaker 2: love them.

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Speaker 1: I love to see the.

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Speaker 3: Best of us, the best of us.

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Speaker 2: This time, Bro, you had a kid named Tommy Cutlet

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Speaker 2: spinning that thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one for the young bulls. You know he

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Speaker 3: almost got it done.

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Speaker 2: We gotta keep going absolutely when you have a four

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Speaker 2: I've been in that position where I've seen our starter

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Speaker 2: go and.

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Speaker 1: You could win, you could win some, but get away.

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Speaker 3: Get tough, Yeah, get tough in that and that deep end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you go from a Desert Eagle to a

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Speaker 2: Smith and West and you're like, all right, we can

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Speaker 2: get the job.

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Speaker 1: So the second year, Man, what changed for you this year?

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Speaker 1: You talk about for the first year you got actily made.

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Speaker 1: A second year you turned it up.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you just the comfortability, you know, you talk

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Speaker 3: about being second year in the system. Second year, you know,

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Speaker 3: going against the best guys in the league or the

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Speaker 3: best guys in the world. I should say, you just

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Speaker 3: start to feel more comfortable. You get a little more

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Speaker 3: time to rest, you get more time off. You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously coming off college, you got the draft and all

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Speaker 3: that to prepare for it, so you never actually get

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Speaker 3: focus on football. You know. So now I had a

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Speaker 3: full off season last year. I was able to come in.

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Speaker 3: I was able to really focus on the game and

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Speaker 3: how to get better and what I need to get

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Speaker 3: better at. And then you I was able to and

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Speaker 3: then playing alongside guys obviously Dexter Lawrence learning how to

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Speaker 3: rush the passer with you know, other guys Leonard Williams,

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Speaker 3: he got traded, but you know that was a guy

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Speaker 3: who kind of helped develop my game, and then Dis's

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Speaker 3: on the other side and every other man that's kind

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Speaker 3: we just been you know, they've been a vessel and

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Speaker 3: they've been there to, you know, help me grow, and

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Speaker 3: we've learned how to rush as a unit. And that's

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Speaker 3: kind of that's was a testament to you know, the

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Speaker 3: plays we're making.

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Speaker 2: We love that PC answer. Yeah, yeah, give flowers to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I can't go to big your big erol Step. You

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Speaker 2: clearly hooped in high school, Big big, big yearo Step.

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Speaker 2: I see what you did there, big Lag, big Lane.

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Speaker 2: From the film that I've watched. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: your first year you showed, you showed some glimpses. This

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Speaker 2: how to use your length more like it's crazy work

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Speaker 2: to help out, you know, But as a defensive end, bro,

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Speaker 2: you learn how to extend your arms out, lockout, and

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Speaker 2: as well as uh, you know, your long arm and

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Speaker 3: So for me, you know, I used to use long

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Speaker 3: Piney Seuwel, you got guys across the league who are

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Speaker 3: You're not You're not gonna let a guy that's two

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Speaker 3: And for me as a rookie, I you know, you

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Speaker 3: have that kind of in your head, right It's like

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Speaker 3: you're going to fight Mike Tyson. It's like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: coming into the second year, I was able to build

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Speaker 1: No doubt. Do you have a favorite pass social move now?

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Speaker 3: I mean I would say long arm. You know that's

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Speaker 3: always when you got when you are a guy with length, obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know you got to keep guys at a distance

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Speaker 3: because I'm not the strongest guy. I can't. You know,

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Speaker 3: you see a lot of guys kind of just move

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Speaker 3: guys examples even you are an example of that. When

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Speaker 3: you have a little more weight behind you, you can

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Speaker 3: you know, you can use your moves, you can throw

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Speaker 3: You know, you start to see how there's so many

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Speaker 3: last year I was, there was a lot of running

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Speaker 3: stepping up quarterbacks, they get paid money. They do for

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Speaker 2: Look, I like to switch it up into my mind.

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Speaker 2: Is it's three really really two different angles. I think

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Speaker 2: I think about a power angle, which means I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: at three angles because then like there's sometimes where you

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Speaker 2: matter what you think, it would be a speed angle,

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Speaker 2: it's like a combination coming in you never.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you never realized how much geometry was in football.

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Speaker 1: Right at all angles angle?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Hit a girl, look girlfriend out there like so so

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Speaker 2: so bring that over here, you know, like, oh you

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Speaker 2: know how you know how to short in a stell?

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Speaker 1: Come bringing it over here? Or wife in my case

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm married with four kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good life, man, that's a good life.

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Speaker 3: I'm not there, yeah, but I'm a crossover soon no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean soon as relative, as soon as relative.

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Speaker 2: When that mustache and beard drop and connect, when connect,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: No, don't do that, don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Don't enjoy, Enjoy, enjoy you know, year two, Enjoy year three,

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Speaker 2: four or five six, Maybe introduce the idea.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think I got to your I was like

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Speaker 1: your four before.

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Speaker 3: People noticed when when when he started talking, he started whispering,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna catch flat from wife you regardless. So

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Speaker 2: let's just you know, where exactly do you want to

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Speaker 2: go with it? But I'm sure you watch the games

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Speaker 2: this weekend, bro, what what did you take away from

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Speaker 2: the conference championship games?

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Speaker 1: Because basically we all want to be there.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, obviously, Like, dude, just first, I could you know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of a lot of people

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Speaker 3: were rooting for Lamar and I just off with the

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Speaker 3: Lamar Patrick Mahons game. A lot of people are rooting

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Speaker 3: for Lamar because of the flac that he gets right

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Speaker 3: for his style of play right, and I think us

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Speaker 3: being players and us knowing how to grind, Like, for example,

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Speaker 3: like that never gonna work. You've heard that, and you've

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Speaker 3: So you know, I feel like we're all rooted for him,

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Speaker 1: King of the Hill. You got to prove them, You

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Speaker 2: Because it's four super Bowls now in five or six years.

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Speaker 3: Or six years. Got Chris Jones in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones in the middle, George carl is just living.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Carloftons. He's the boy. You know, we

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Speaker 2: Give them back three plays as eight Flowers could have

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Speaker 3: I left the house right when he when he caught

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Speaker 1: love it. That's what I'm saying, Like, that's just desserts.

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Speaker 2: Like don't we're not going to reward you for you

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, but say Flowers as young

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Speaker 3: It happens to the best of us. That's that's one

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Speaker 2: Man, you know, and all that look on the same team,

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Speaker 3: But god, why did you just bring that up exactly?

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Speaker 3: There's so much that goes into getting a sack.

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Speaker 2: There's I mean, it's you can win, you can win

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Speaker 3: Let's not get a sack, and that's just that's the

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Speaker 1: Your first sack was off, Like let's even talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But if your rookie year, your first sack was off

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Speaker 1: Really to like the.

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Speaker 2: Much it was a blessing, like you like, that's what

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Speaker 1: You can't label you can't label.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's crazy you gonna bring up the football guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, them old coaches.

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Speaker 3: You should swear, man, you.

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Speaker 1: Can go listen to the football guys.

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Speaker 3: I believe. I believe.

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Speaker 1: Look, yeah you can. I believe in a football outlying source.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Look, brother Christian, they can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not the word we should use it the football energy.

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Speaker 3: There we go to respect the game.

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Speaker 2: Respect, Oh coach, we dropped that joint. I came home

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Speaker 2: one time, was like, man, the football guys, and my

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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, ma'am, yea not of clear right.

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Speaker 1: I look football outliers energy. I like, I like energy.

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Speaker 1: I might use that one. But so then you go

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Speaker 1: to you know, you checked out that game which Pat mahone. Boys,

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Speaker 2: He catches a lot of hate for his outside circumstances,

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Speaker 1: Did you see his dad smoke a cigar? Did you

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Speaker 1: Can you like?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, if people around me are having success,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be the most annoying mug out there.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm Jackson Mahomes. I'm out there on the fifty

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Speaker 3: You can't come on, I'm dancing. I'm super Bowl every year.

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Speaker 3: Come on, bro, you listen. I went to the I

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's uh, you know, it got the it

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Speaker 3: the Bills fans are just lying the snowballs and the dad,

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Speaker 3: just so cold because he's you know, obviously he's not

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Speaker 1: He's just Jay. Is that what Jason Kelsey like jumped

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. It was definitely a time. But when you

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Speaker 2: I like him because because I'm a winner, that's it.

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Speaker 2: He took over from Alex Smith.

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Speaker 3: And thinking about look, I just I just seen the

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Speaker 3: the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Like, watch how many quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: It's a bunch of Charles Barkley's and you know all

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Speaker 3: the rest of the guys. I was out there with

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Speaker 3: no Michael Jordan. Yeah, your thirteen without a ring. I'm like, yo, hey,

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Speaker 3: question for you. I got a question for you. So

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Speaker 3: that was the thing that I saw in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a gilbrid Arenas and they were

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Speaker 3: talking about would you would you rather get, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd have to answer it.

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Speaker 3: I don't answer question. Don't answer it because of what

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Speaker 3: the media is gonna say. Don't ask.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've got no fear of media. Look, I'm only

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Speaker 2: going to ask this, does it matter where? Because it's

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Speaker 2: going to matter where for me? Because there's places in

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Speaker 1: Like bro, my my only, my only prayer before I

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Speaker 2: They could be like, oh, can, We're gonna make you

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Speaker 2: a year, and I'd like, politely thank you for your offer.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Bro, I'm never gonna play somewhere cold, because

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Speaker 2: after you think we're fighting over fifty MILLI dollars one

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Speaker 1: More money than I've ever wanted in my life. I

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Speaker 1: with ten million dollars, I'm never gonna have to work again.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: What I was like, yo, I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 4: We're good man.

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Speaker 1: I passed that up like by year four or five,

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Speaker 2: it's going to depend on where. If you say, yo, Kim,

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Speaker 2: you can stay in New Orleans for the fifty or

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Speaker 2: you have to go to New England for a hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'll be right here in New Orleans jail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now if you say right, if you say, if you

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Speaker 2: say fifty Kim at Cleveland or a hunted a Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: I'm retired.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with that drunk lock.

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Speaker 3: So look, let's say you saw the future. Let's say

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Speaker 3: They're like, look, we got two million to come to

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Speaker 3: you knew they win the Super they're gonna win the

437
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 3: next you know, high ready super Bowls?

438
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,719
Speaker 1: What you're doing I'm staying right here in New Orleans, Cane.

439
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,320
Speaker 3: That's what I like. That's a great answer. Don't do it.

440
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 2: But see you already playing the cold half of this

441
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 2: because I'm not playing in the cold. I've seen that thing, Bro,

442
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 2: I ain't playing. You laid my first played my first

443
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 2: cold game, bro at year twelve in Cleveland, negative thirty

444
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 2: and negative twenty five.

445
00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 1: It was some dumb stuff.

446
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,439
Speaker 2: It was like it was like it was like three degrees,

447
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,360
Speaker 2: but with the windshield it was like negative twenty something.

448
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 2: When I tell you, it affirmed everything I've ever believed in.

449
00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,120
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't play.

450
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 1: I played this game. I hated everybody. I hated myself,

451
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 1: like I'm not a good person in the cold. I

452
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, screw you, screw you.

453
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 3: I was like, no better when you're losing in this

454
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 3: cold real ba, no better, boy, man. And I was

455
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 3: saying the pain. So so then you talk about the

456
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 3: next game, you talk about the Lions, and you talk

457
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 3: about who they just played, man, Lions Niners, and it's

458
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 3: like you just see like and for for them, it

459
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 3: was at the it was at the forty nine.

460
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: Ers right said, probably it was it was in San Francisco.

461
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 3: It was. It was in San Francisco. Yeah, yeh, that's

462
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You know, that's San Francisco, you know

463
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

464
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 1: So North North Bay not really San Francisco, but like

465
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 1: North Bay whatever.

466
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 3: It ain't that bad. So, but you're talking about like

467
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: that turmoil of continuously playing. Like, man, I felt those

468
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 3: Lions players like you going there and it's like, man,

469
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 3: you know you work so hard. It's like you come

470
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: up dish short. The check ain't even worth it check

471
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 3: and you can keep my check. Bro.

472
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: I stopped watching after halftime. I left it like it

473
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 2: wasn't enjoying my pizza. I was like, man, I was like,

474
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: all right, so this game over. I was like playing

475
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: with my kids doing some other stuff. I know, in fact,

476
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: I think yeah.

477
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: I was back by then, bro, Like I was like,

478
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: all right, cool, come back. I look at the look up.

479
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: It's the fourth quarter and it's tied up.

480
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 3: I said, what yeah, it's some ducks on that and

481
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: some ducks on that Niner team. We got some we

482
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: got some ducks on the you know, shout out to Pinasu, man,

483
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean a great player, great officer player, but you know,

484
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,719
Speaker 3: the forty nine has got some of our guys too,

485
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: so I'm happy for him.

486
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: Scow Ducks and look at the last of the pack, man,

487
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even. I don't even know

488
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: how to feel about that bro in fact, beyond the pack,

489
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 2: Like I was, I think when I left, like that

490
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: was the last year of packed ten. Think about that.

491
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: So then it went Pack twelve. I've never claimed Colorado

492
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: or Utah.

493
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean we beat Utah, but you tah,

494
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: they did beat this that last time.

495
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean horrible after I left, so like I Cali,

496
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 2: like real bad. And we used to we were scraping,

497
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, y'all used to have some We used to

498
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 2: have some battles out out.

499
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: In the Eugene and Eugene.

500
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we used to have some battles.

501
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 2: Deshaun Jackson going crazy my freshman year gets y'all in

502
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 2: Autsen back when it was like really rocking.

503
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: I mean it was right, it's still rocking, you know.

504
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: I know, cals not much, but it's not the same.

505
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: It's not the same. It's not the same. I'm trying

506
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: to throw.

507
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: When I came back, listen, when I came back, I

508
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: got I got ejected from a game.

509
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about for y'all. I'm talking for cal

510
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: It's not Yeah, but we used to pack seventy thousand.

511
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: It's like sixty eight thousand out like people on the

512
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: hills out there, you bro, you couldn't buy them tickets.

513
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Boys refused to sell.

514
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: Them to you. And I think I see people. I

515
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: think more people, more people. Like there's a little there's

516
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: a little hill right right outside the stadium. I think

517
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: more people sit up there on that hill than in the.

518
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: Stadium, no doubt.

519
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

520
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh it's bad Like Cala, I.

521
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 3: Didn't know that was that many bootleggers and their boot legging.

522
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: Hey, that's crazy, Like things have changed. But I mean,

523
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, Oregon hasn't organ sort of stayed the same.

524
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: They got all that Nike money. It was like shout

525
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: uncle Phil.

526
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: Man, which leads me to nil though, Like what's that

527
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: even hitting on?

528
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: Like listen, you like you one of the first to

529
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: really capture n I L and make make you know

530
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: everybody in the world jealous, you know what I'm saying,

531
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Like you had n I L.

532
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Like what did that even feel?

533
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: Like? Knowing like you was like you wasn't phenomenally like

534
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: the sickest. It was like the sickest. It was the

535
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: sickest thing that could have happened, and sick meaning great

536
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: just because you know, if you were equipped with the

537
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: infrastructure as far as like knowledge and people around you,

538
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it was dope. So me, you know, I

539
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: was able to make money during the time. But you

540
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 3: talk about the money they're making now compared to when

541
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: I was making money, it's not even close, not even we've.

542
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: Been saying, but you're always gonna say about the next gen.

543
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: Like that's just you know, it's inflation. It is what

544
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: it is, and it's like and that's what I think.

545
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: Like even the guys that didn't, you know, in the

546
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: league that didn't, it's like, yeah, I'm sorry for them, man,

547
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: they have they have to walk so we could run.

548
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Looking at it, looking at cow guys like yeah, man,

549
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: you know, like man like compart to all the other schools.

550
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm not making anything like hey, I got this deal

551
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: and I got like ten grand ten ten grandy.

552
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: Hey, but you know what I was done with ten

553
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: a test spot in college.

554
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: Come on, come on. But see, you know, the real

555
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: the real problem is that there's no there's no education infrastructure.

556
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: So now you're giving a bunch of a bunch of

557
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: young guys who don't have any liabilities. So if I

558
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: don't have any liabilities, I don't have to worry about

559
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: what I use my assets on as far as my money,

560
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like when you talk about you're

561
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: giving guys ten thousand, twenty thousand, and thirty thousand. I

562
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: hate two cars in college? Why did I have two

563
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: cars in college? Because I could one was free and

564
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 3: I paid for one. Why would I pay for one

565
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: when I got one free? But it's just like having knowledge,

566
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: having understanding of what's important. And it's like, that's what

567
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: I think is what's missing, you know, in that in

568
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: that whole level or education, you know, giving guys understanding that,

569
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: like you just hit for half a million, you gotta

570
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: pay taxes on that big dog to go who how

571
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: to pay taxes on that big dog? And they we

572
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: don't get, we don't know that, we don't know. I've

573
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: never paid tax I've never had a job. So it's like,

574
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about the it's a it's

575
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: a blessing and a curse. And now we just now

576
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 3: that we have all of this, we got to go.

577
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: You know, we gotta be proactive about the information, no doubt.

578
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: I'll say, how how is that navigating that space? Does

579
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: like does college help out or is it just like

580
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: the wild wild West?

581
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: You got to figure out? So for how to pay tax?

582
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Again, financial organ specifically we had they created and this

583
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: was a year I left, they created something called Division Street,

584
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: which is basically what we just talked about. It's an

585
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: infrastructure for student athletes to learn about an io, to

586
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: learn about business and basically give them resources on you know,

587
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: the things they need exactly.

588
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: But do your parents give you a check book? Here's

589
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: a checkbook?

590
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: Do all schools do that? No? Is it something that's

591
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: regulated by the n cub A No, absolutely will it?

592
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: Will it be regulated by the n C double A

593
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: when they can put taxes on it, they can make

594
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: the piece. Yeah, when they can get their touch. But

595
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: n C double you find a way to get they

596
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: cut of course. Man. They tried to tell us my

597
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: first year that like any deal, you get registered in

598
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: this uh database. And I raised my hand. I said,

599
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 3: so what's gonna happen if we don't. The lady said, Uh,

600
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: they're still kind of figuring out what the repercussions are.

601
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: I said, so you I'm not going to tell you

602
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: what I'm making. Are you stupid? I was like, what

603
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: it makes sense? You want to tell you how much

604
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: money I'm bringing in?

605
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: So you got come on, there's a reason why you

606
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: want this list, baby, And I can't help you.

607
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: Ain't no way how much.

608
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you I can't. I don't

609
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: even know how to read a contract. Uh. And then

610
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: look and then when you talk about you know the resources. Now,

611
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: for me, I was the you know, a high draft pick,

612
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: so there was already agents. We know, an agent game.

613
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Everybody's reaching out and for me, I'm getting I'm getting knowledge.

614
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: I'm not going to steer away these relationships. I'm gonna learn.

615
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to get everything I can. So when when

616
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: the time came, I kind of already had a plan

617
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: on what I was gonna do. You know, I was

618
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: already a big fan of Lebron, big fan of you know,

619
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: the movement of n I L And when it happened,

620
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: it was like I was, I was ready for it. Luckily,

621
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: the first deal I did was with Phil Knight, and

622
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: it was like an n f T at the time.

623
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: So it was a space that he didn't know and

624
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 3: I didn't know. But we got people exactly. We got

625
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: people who were uh he had people that kind of

626
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: showed me the way, and that was kind of that

627
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: first step, and then from there it was just like

628
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: plug and play.

629
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: Right when you're first in nil deal coming from a

630
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: man who mastered the business plan, come on and say

631
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna take you you take five hundred grand or

632
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: have a sitting down with Jay Z. I'm gonna sit

633
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: down with Phil Knight.

634
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna sit down. I'm still getting there. I

635
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: ain't gonna get five hundred but I'm gonna still make

636
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: something off of.

637
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, man, we love we love that, all right.

638
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: So what was that transition like like from from college

639
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: to the NFL because pre n I L boys got

640
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: the league and had to figure out how to have

641
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: the you know, the fiduciary responsibility of the finances to

642
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: set aside and figure out your life or you sort

643
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: of figured it out in college, so that sort of

644
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: was was was it, you know, just neither here nor

645
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 2: there for you when you got to lead? So did

646
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: that make it easier for you the transition or because.

647
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: It's just like more money.

648
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: It was definitely, it was definitely easier. I say, the

649
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: bad part the only it wasn't really bad, But I say,

650
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: the only hard part was that my taste got really

651
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: expensive faster than I would have hoped. So it wasn't

652
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: that I was a guy who's you know, nobody else

653
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: with you, you know, so it's not like I'm a

654
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: guy to go blow my money. But it's like, yo,

655
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: I might as well just eat the highest quality food

656
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: at the highest quality restaurants, at the highest quality you know,

657
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Like it's just you realize, like, man, I can, so

658
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: why wouldn't I? You know, And in that part you

659
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: have to understand the time management. You know, people don't

660
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: really realize like, yeah, you get paid fifty million, forty million,

661
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: thirty million, but you still got thirty years left to live.

662
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: So it's like it's easy to go spend one thousand

663
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: dollars a day, fifteen two hundred, two thousand, one hundred

664
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: and ten thousand dollars every two weeks. But then it's like,

665
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: you know that's gonna run out.

666
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: Or it's good while I'm playing, but what happens beyond

667
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: after I'm playing I'm over here.

668
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 3: That was That was my idea. That's been That's been

669
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: my whole thing, where it's like, don't keep all my

670
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: eggs in one basket, continue to you know, be open

671
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: to longevity.

672
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: Basically, no, man, Hey, look look I put it like this.

673
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: My my rookie year, I probably didn't spend that thing.

674
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I paid for my car cash and was like, this

675
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: is my money and I need it now, like I

676
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: don't know how much long I'm gonna play. But after

677
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: that my second year, I was like, I got to

678
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: diversify the portfolio. I need I need a rental property,

679
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: I need this, I need this, I need this. After

680
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: my fifty year, I was like, bro, I just want

681
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: to focus on football. And then I was like, I

682
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: like somewhere around like that fifty or six years, I

683
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: was like, all right, some moves I've made, Like you know,

684
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: the first off season, I go to Vegas and you

685
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: have a Vegas weekend the professional way, you know what

686
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like living, living, living or lavishly.

687
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: After your first one, you start thinking like, yeah, I

688
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: don't know how many more times I can go to Vegas.

689
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm not doing about again.

690
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: Hey, look I was thinking about the super Bowl being

691
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: because I'm like, yeah, I got one day. They getting

692
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: six hours out of me. I'm going I'm sure my

693
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: mama come with me.

694
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: But literally I be like this.

695
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm like I'll be I'd be running things off, you know,

696
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: off the fam. I'm like, hey, like, hey, bro, how

697
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: much you make a here? And I was like, hey,

698
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: would you do this? And he'd be like, hey, that's crazy.

699
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: If I hear like a hype response from him, yeah,

700
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Like I use other people to ground me.

701
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like, hey, Mom, like, oh yeah, I

702
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: was thinking about you know, like.

703
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: My secondar in league. I was like, I'm thinking about

704
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: this audi right. She's like, I don't even know what is.

705
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Mama's one hundred eighty one hundred. I said, cool, okay,

706
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: bring me back to life. Bring me back to life.

707
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: You know, like you gotta have some some some sort

708
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: of browning situation.

709
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can get into the locker room and

710
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, oh, keeping up with the Joneses, keeping up.

711
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: With the Joneses. When you know your boy broke there

712
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: with the with the whatever that keys what big big

713
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: coming in.

714
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: You're like, I had the same tie for eleven years

715
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: and every year I'll be like, bro, like I'm two

716
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: models behind. I should I should go ahead? And that's

717
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: at some point why I rolled.

718
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 3: It, Like what what iPhone do you have? Right now?

719
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: I have no clue what iPhone? I have no clueteen.

720
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: Fourteen, but it's got a crack in it, so the

721
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: fifteen is probably happening.

722
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna happen. But like once you get it,

723
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: it's just like we we upgrade because we can. But

724
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: then it's like, you know, you get to a point

725
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: where it's like man, oh, this is the same thing.

726
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: Until until the phones starts slowing down on me. I'm

727
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: used rocket for My rule is like every.

728
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: Two or three years, so like yeah, two or three yeah,

729
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: but I got a crack in it, so like it's

730
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna have to.

731
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: It's sad because look, if you ask Cam ten years ago,

732
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: his phone had a crack in and he was taking

733
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: it down to the place on the corner getting it

734
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: fixed by one of the one of the places for

735
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: sixty bucks. Now he just get a whole phone up.

736
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: Ain't you done? Changed up? Can changed up? You? Boo?

737
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Hey boom. There's some there's some things in life

738
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: you don't fight. Come on, I feel like I feel

739
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: like that one.

740
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Hey, traveling, traveling is that one thing for me? Like

741
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: I may be tight, I mean a wad and a

742
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: lot of places in my life we travel. I'm here

743
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: to sleep, the best eat. The best commercial.

744
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: The best commercial I've ever seen was why save during

745
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: your travel when you can save on your travel? I

746
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I would never want to be that

747
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: guy to have to save during the travel. I was

748
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: a great commercial. I was a great commercial.

749
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Was there is there any place that you've traveled so

750
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: far that you like? Dangne?

751
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: I've done kind of my first year, I did like

752
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: a world tour. So I did, uh Dominican Republic first

753
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: I did, and then I went to where I go Jamaica.

754
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Then I went to Africa. I went to South Africa.

755
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: Then I went to Hawaii. Then I went to US.

756
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: I went to Botswana. It's the city I went to.

757
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: I flew into Johannesburg and then like we drove about

758
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: five hours to a small country probably only holds like

759
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: I think a million people. It was called Botswana though,

760
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: and we drove through they say the caves or the

761
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: mountains where the first remains of humans were found, so

762
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: literally like, yeah, the first people walked the earth, we

763
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: kind of drove past. So that was pretty dope. Uh.

764
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: And then this year I'm going to Spain, going to

765
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: trying to put something together Nigeria. I just did my

766
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: DNA test found out I was Nigerian. So I'm gonna

767
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: try to go out there and uh and go get

768
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: some knowledge and some you know history. Spain, Yes, span Yeah,

769
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm go to Barcelona. Yeah, I'm gona go to Barcelona,

770
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: then go down to Uh. Uh, I'm gonna go to

771
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm flying to Paris, go to Barcelona, stay in Paris

772
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: for a couple of days, go to Barcelona and then uh,

773
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 3: there's another place called something with an end, but it's

774
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: an island. Trying it my Mosque Modico.

775
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: There's a few of them.

776
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just simply say add in San Sebastian. San Sebastian,

777
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: it's right there by. If you finding in the France first, right,

778
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: it's right there. It's a connection area of France and

779
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: Spain on the Yeah, what is the Poconos, Poconese whatever mountains,

780
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: he's the worst. It's it's Basque country, but it's one

781
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: of the most beautiful spots that I think I've seen

782
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: the date, like think of think of a fire city

783
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: that meets like beach and whatever it is.

784
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: It is beautiful.

785
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Away Sebastian, Bill Bao San Sebastian. You gotta go to

786
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: a soccer game. It's this, Yeah, you gotta go check

787
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: you gotta check it out. Anyways, it's funny just to

788
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: hear you talking, like I've seen you talk before, you know,

789
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: pre draft whatever that was going through. But it's like

790
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: you talk well beyond your years, bro, and even this year,

791
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: it seems like you've become so sort of like a

792
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: vocal leader even.

793
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: As a young kid.

794
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Then I say kid, because you know, second year you

795
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: got to ten years, you got thirteen two. Hey bro,

796
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: that's that's sort of happened to me. Bro, Like my

797
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: second third year the league, all the old heads got

798
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: sort of pushed out when to another team, got paid

799
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: whatever it was.

800
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I looked around and I was like, from a rookie

801
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: to event, like was my life? You know what I'm saying?

802
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: Like eh like that.

803
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: So you know you talk about you just being like

804
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: a vocal leader early on in this stage, is it

805
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: you know? The is it the factors that contribute to

806
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: that is like your willingness to be that to step

807
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 2: into it, because I mean you still had up until

808
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: halfway through the season, you had Linnl Williams, you got

809
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: sexy Dexi over there. You know, you got some old heads.

810
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: But it seems like the more you talk, the more

811
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: you amped up. You came that spark for your defense.

812
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: So you know, I would say, first, you know, when

813
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: it talks about leadership is position first based off of quarterback,

814
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 3: running back, middle linebacker, safety, guys who you know kind

815
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: of are the focal points of the defense or of

816
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: the offense. So that's kind of the initial leadership role.

817
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: And then Dexter Lawrence obviously, who's the biggest guy you

818
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: know in the room, right, it makes no you know

819
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: when a guy. But then it comes to play, right,

820
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 3: And I think that's the big component that you learn

821
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: once you start to you you get into the league

822
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: that it's all about how much you contribute on the

823
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: field and if you're able to contribute on the field.

824
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: So even my first year, like you know, you want

825
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: to lead guys, but if you ain't making plays anybody listening,

826
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: that's the truth behind it. So then once you know,

827
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: the second year comes and now it's like, okay, I'm

828
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: more of an instrument in the defense. You know, a

829
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: couple guys leave, a couple guys get traded. Now it's

830
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: like there are voids that have to be filled in

831
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: a team chemistry standpoint. You know, that's when you have

832
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: to make that decision where you know, are you going

833
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: to be that guy to step in? You know, And

834
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: it's tough because people think leadership is something that you

835
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: can choose. You know, it's not really something you choose.

836
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: It's something that your teammates kind of kind of revere

837
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: you as you know. So for me, I would say

838
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: that it was just learning how to be a leader.

839
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: You know, you think you know how to lead until

840
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: it's time to lead, right, and you think you have

841
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: everything figured out or you think you know what you're

842
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: doing until you get in adverse situations. So for me

843
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: man first year, you know, I think it was just

844
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: understanding the landscape, understanding where I fit in, understand it,

845
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: you know people. And then second year it was okay,

846
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: how can I help my teammates be their best selves? Right?

847
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: So you know, before every game, I'm asking Bobby, you know,

848
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: my oft the linebacker. I'm like, what do you need

849
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: for me for you to play your best? What? What?

850
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: What parts do you think I can support your vision,

851
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, as a leader of the team and be

852
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: a support on I.

853
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: Say, Bobby's last night because I've never tried.

854
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay, exactly that was a

855
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: good and I never heard Okay, okay, that's a good.

856
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. I'm gonna have to

857
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: take that back to it. Yeah okay, ok But He's

858
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: He's definitely a true leader, and I think, you know,

859
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: when it comes to leadership, you have to kind of

860
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: emulate certain people. So I'm very blessed to have a

861
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: true leader, natural leader that I can you know, emulate

862
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: as far as off the field, as far as taking

863
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: care of your body, as far as watching film and

864
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: things like that to you know, continue to be a

865
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: vessel for other teammates, younger teammates coming in and things

866
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: like that.

867
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Facts. Man, Like I said, I love I love to

868
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: see the growth.

869
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: Bro.

870
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking forward to your year three. What

871
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to it? And your three?

872
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: Man? Honestly, I'm just I'm chasing these sacks. Man you know,

873
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: you know how that you know how that uns, but

874
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: you know how that feel to be to be in

875
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: the hunt. You know, it's it's it's a great feeling

876
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: because it's always a new challenge. But that's where I'm at.

877
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: You know, obviously it's going in my third year. Third

878
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: years year for renegotiations if you're one of those guys, right,

879
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: if you're one of the ones. So for me, you know,

880
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Michael Strahan said one great thing to me, seriously, he

881
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: said one great to me. Think to me when I

882
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: got in the lead. He said, you know, it's easy

883
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: to be one of the eleven guys on the field,

884
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: but you want to be the one out of the eleven.

885
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: And that's that, that's that difference. So that's kind of

886
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: what I'm working on this year.

887
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Shout out, Mike, Come on, Mike, Mike, friend that money.

888
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Man, Mike straight ahead. Definitely he's a grow up. Watching

889
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: that man, I was like, I want to be like him.

890
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: And then I realized, I was like, man, I'm too eighty.

891
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: Five, and this is even so, this is even surreal

892
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: because I was looking at you like that. Now we're

893
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: sitting here on the podcast, were sitting here in the

894
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: league together and though for real, it's amazing. I remember

895
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: you were talking about it was one. It was really

896
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: you and von Miller are two guys that I've always

897
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: looked at, just on a vocal standpoint of people who

898
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: you know are going to give their tips in pass rush.

899
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 3: But you talk about you know, I think you said

900
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: you had something where you like, if you do if

901
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: you go fast with bad technique, you're okay. If you

902
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: go fast with good technique, you're doing great. But if

903
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: you go slow with bad technique, you're gonna be on

904
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: the bench somewhere. You said something like that, and that

905
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: stuck with me Like that, that stuck with me. That

906
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: was something that that I've taken. And then you know,

907
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: obviously there there are gems that other, you know, guys

908
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: like you have been dropping, and it's just up to

909
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: the younger guys to keep you know, using those gems

910
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: and implement them into your game.

911
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Man, I'm trying to tell you.

912
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Look, I learned I learned that one early earlier the

913
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: your thing because my rookie year, I was out there

914
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: like all right, well I got to play the run.

915
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: I gotta have this technique. But if you move slow

916
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: even if it's the right answer, you're wrong.

917
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: Don't matter, you're wrong.

918
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: But if you move fast and you'd be like you

919
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: it's a b and you missed the wrong one, you

920
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: can still be in a right spot.

921
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: And you think about a guy like you think about

922
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: a guy like Max Crosby, and you know he's a

923
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: guy who right now is the epitome of you. Just

924
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: do it hard, do it fast. Everything's gonna work out.

925
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: He has This is no not to him. He has

926
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: one move. That swipe is the most dangerous move I've

927
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: ever seen a human. Dude.

928
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: He's got to counterspin too. His his swipe is stupid.

929
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: But how many guys are gonna keep getting got with

930
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: the swipe?

931
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: How many guys are gonna keep getting got with the

932
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: long arm? How many guys gonna keep getting got with

933
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: a swim? Look, when you perfect your craft, it doesn't

934
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: matter about them. I said this early and often, an

935
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: office a lineman is just office a lineman. I'm now

936
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: rushing against the quarterback because I need to know how

937
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: fast he's releasing the ball because off the lineman their cattle.

938
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: There's gonna be strong. There's gonna be strong ones.

939
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: But whatever I never swiped till I saw Max Crosby

940
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: get like thirteen sacks off all swipes. Then I was like,

941
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: you know what, I was like, something I need to

942
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: figure out. I gotta figure it out. And then he

943
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: just plays hard. Man. When you play hard and you

944
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: play every snap, dude, you reap the benefits of it.

945
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was hoping you're going to say, hey, I'm

946
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: evolving to a killer run stopper, but.

947
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 3: You know what, I get it age that's the no, no, no, see,

948
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: don't overlook the run. That is the difference to me

949
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: between a lot of pass rushers out there and let's

950
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: say four down football players. I told myself and I

951
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: came in sleep, I'm be a four down guy. I'm

952
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: not the biggest guy, not the fastest guy, not the

953
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: strongest guy, but I'm going to be trustworthy on first

954
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: down all the way to fourth. So when you talk

955
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: about run stop and you talk about things like that,

956
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: like that's you can't even rush the passer unless you

957
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: set in edge.

958
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: You got, I'm like, hey, I'll be waiting for the

959
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: move on my way. In fact, y'all think I was.

960
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: I think I was damaged by then the whole Hiko

961
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Aloyd goes like, all I could do is stop the run.

962
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: Look, look the cold the coldest thing is when you

963
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: see guys like and to me, I was. I came

964
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: out of a system in college where it was like

965
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: there was no jumping around blocks to make a play right.

966
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: And it's like when you're in the league, though, it's like,

967
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: you know, you almost get frustrated a little bit because

968
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: it's like, Yo, all these guys are making these tackles

969
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: for losses and they're jumping.

970
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Around blocks, and I've been a sea gap and here

971
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: you are.

972
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, but and it's like me, you will, you

973
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: take it, you make it. And it's like you start

974
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: to realize that when you are a guy who has

975
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: the instinct and you have the trust within your coaches,

976
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 3: it's like you gotta go play big and make big plays.

977
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: And you know, I always think of a guy like

978
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: t J. Watts. TJ wat go to the casino one

979
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: time you go, you TJ Wyt get twenty sacks and

980
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: he's gonna get ten tackles for losses because he gonna

981
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 3: jump them. He's gonna take it, he gonna he gonna

982
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 3: play his game, and it's amazing.

983
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: He knows his body type, and he's like, look, what

984
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm not here gonna do is is set the edge

985
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: every time against somebody who outweys me by eighty to

986
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: ninety bounds. But what I can do is give you

987
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: all this movement. Oh, I can shoot up the field.

988
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh and now you now you're nervous, and now I'm underneath.

989
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: And he also has got huge interior y linement like

990
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: across the board. But you know, but shoot, I appreciate you, bro.

991
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wrap this up real quick. Bro, I appreciate

992
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: you tapping in with with with me on my podcast

993
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Off the Edge. Bro, I see nothing but great things

994
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: going for you. So you know, if you have eleven

995
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: sacks this year, but I try and tell people, don't

996
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: worry about the sacks. Worry about your process because the

997
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: sacks are going to come. And I mean your process.

998
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: You already built the process. So just keep on believing

999
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: and keep on striving for greatness.

1000
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for having me. I appreciate you, bro.

1001
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: Man appreciate my guy Caveon coming on the pod, you know,

1002
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: blessing us with his personality.

1003
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Definitely.

1004
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: I think that you know, as a young bull, he

1005
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: out there sort of leading to charge him. Guys like

1006
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, these young talented past rushers, uh you know

1007
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: Nick Bose, I guess still technically young, Chase Young. The

1008
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: league is in good hands right now, you know, George

1009
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: call offtic but beyond just being a pass rusher, it's

1010
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: it's great to see their personality off the field. And

1011
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: so at this point, you know, speaking of off the field,

1012
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: I want to go through, you know, a New Orleans

1013
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: current event that's definitely heavy on my mind and my heart.

1014
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get We're gonna we're gonna talk about

1015
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: what happened between you know, New Orleans Saints New Orleans

1016
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: this week with my guy Will Smith's shooter Cardelles. Earlier

1017
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: this last week, a guy by the name of Cardele

1018
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Cardel Hayes, a New Orleanian who murdered teammate Will Smith

1019
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: of mine years back, was given a verdict reached upon

1020
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: by the jury where you.

1021
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Know, he was sentenced to what is it, up to

1022
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: forty years in jail.

1023
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean he shot somebody in the back eight times.

1024
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: You know, it was a road rage incident gone wrong,

1025
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: and it destroyed multiple families. You figure Will Smith's side.

1026
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: You know, he had he left the world too soon

1027
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: in his thirties, left the wife, you know, left three kids.

1028
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's three kids that are growing up with

1029
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: that the father. Because a man got upset that he

1030
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: thought he was tapped in the back, or maybe he

1031
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: was tapped in the back, but either way, it was

1032
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: an incident that just went awry.

1033
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: If you guys don't know.

1034
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Will Smith was a defensive en former of the New

1035
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints for nine seasons I do believe then I

1036
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: think a ten season maybe with the Patriots, and was

1037
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: my og when I first came in. Somewhere in there

1038
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: in his retirement, you know, he had an accident that

1039
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: happened in the night, him, his wife, two other people

1040
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: in a car bumped into possibly bumped into that. I

1041
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: think that's what the main action was was Cardil Hayes

1042
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: had felt like Will Smith had tapped into his car

1043
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: some long lines seen tape video, whatever it is, but

1044
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: didn't address it properly, and Cardille Hayes.

1045
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Goes off into a chase after will Smith.

1046
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: They then somewhere catch up to each other because there's

1047
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: an altercation that happens. Words are said, Will Smith is

1048
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: going back to his car. Cardil Hayes says he was

1049
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: fearing for his life and shot this, you know, shot

1050
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: at my teammate and then his back eight times, ended

1051
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: up shooting the wife time or two. Just messy on

1052
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: all accounts, and you try not to be affected by it,

1053
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: but you always are. I mean, somebodys in their thirties

1054
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: to be murdered out in the streets of New Orleans

1055
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: and what I'm sure one side will say is self

1056
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: defense somehow and the other side would say murder. And

1057
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: how you can only pray that God sorts it all

1058
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: out at the end of the day, because that's that's

1059
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: that's a that's a deal. I mean, shout out to

1060
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Smith family for being rock solid. You know, I think,

1061
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you know, the oldest son, Will Smith Junior,

1062
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: is over at Ohio State as a d lineman, following

1063
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: his father's footsteps. You know, Winter is young button kid

1064
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: in high school?

1065
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: Daughter? Is she like a senior now?

1066
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: Like the whole family's grown, Like we've witnessed these kids

1067
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: grow up for real, for real, so I know that

1068
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: they're affected. And then of course Cardell Hayes is the

1069
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: New Orleanians who had tried out for the Saints. So

1070
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: for him to you know, say he didn't know who

1071
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: will Smith was. Yeah, all right, now say the New

1072
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: Orleans lives breeze and eats and sleeps and drinks football,

1073
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: he knew who he was. But you know that's neither

1074
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: here nor they're the altercation leveled up to a whole

1075
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: other spot, you know. So his family's affected, of course,

1076
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure I think he has some kids. He's clearly

1077
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: got outspoken, you know, family relatives that are fighting for

1078
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: is just for for his side.

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Speaker 1: Where there's going to be hurt.

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Speaker 2: There's always gonna be people who think they're on the

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Speaker 2: right side or whatever it is. Again, I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 2: that that to the jury and the Jesus to figure

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Speaker 2: that one out because I do not know the intricate

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Speaker 2: delicacies of that one.

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Speaker 1: And that's our show man. I appreciate y'all for.

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Speaker 2: Tuning in, not even just like this week, let's just

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Speaker 2: be real. I appreciate everybody who's tapping in with me

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Speaker 2: on the pod. Off the edge of the podcast, you know,

1089
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Speaker 2: yours truly going through the gambit of emotions week to week,

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00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: through the games of the Highs and lows sitting here.

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Speaker 2: Over the next couple of weeks, we'll be heading into

1092
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl week. Just shout out to y'all the listeners

1093
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 2: for tapping in with me. So if anything, tell your teammates,

1094
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: tell your compatriots.

1095
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: About the pod. Spread it around.

1096
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, we're international out here, you know, from from

1097
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Africa to America. Let them know, you know, off the

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00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: edge of the podcasts, the podcast you want to tune into,

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00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: and that's anywhere where you listen to your podcast. That's

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00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio app wherever else you can find it.

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: Come on, tell your friends to tell their friends. Get

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00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: everybody listen.

1103
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: To the pod. Leave us a five star rating, leave

1104
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: us a review, and just you know, leave us a

1105
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Speaker 2: follow up. And I always remember to tap in off.

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Speaker 1: There's the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate y' all. Major blessings, big vibes, levels to everything.

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Speaker 3: Peace,