WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: The Cum Conspiracy Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Al Zone Media. Ho Ho Ho, Mary Christmas. Robert Evans here,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had been planning to make a new Come

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<v Speaker 1>episode to give you all a white Christmas this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I didn't wind up wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do right during the holidays when we didn't have to work,

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<v Speaker 1>is spend hours researching some other weird Come conspiracies on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. So we're just going to play the old

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<v Speaker 1>Come episode for you as a rerun. I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the most effortful version of our job that I

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<v Speaker 1>could have done this year, but also it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>real shitty year for everybody. So let's just listen to

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<v Speaker 1>an old Come episode and pretend we gave you a

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<v Speaker 1>Newcome episode. Merry Christmas, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Dearly beloved, Welcome to it could happen here. We are

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<v Speaker 2>gathered here today to get through this thing called life.

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<v Speaker 2>Electric word life. It's a thing that only happens with

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<v Speaker 2>the addition of a couple of ingredients, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>those ingredients is the subject of our episode today. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys like that? Everybody really happy with that?

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Yeah, I'm feeling not at all like

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<v Speaker 3>I want to kind of shower. Okay, can you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can hear the moment where we're all like simultaneously

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<v Speaker 4>questioning every single decision we've ever made in our entire lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're all bonded together. So how's everybody doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Miil Wong, Garrison Davis, James Stout, and I

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<v Speaker 2>should let people know I wasn't joking about the come thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So those of you who are too online will know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Those of you who are not online enough, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the online things that you will want to

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<v Speaker 2>know because it's very funny. And the gist of it

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<v Speaker 2>is that like four days ago, doctor Jordan B. Peterson

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<v Speaker 2>got sent a link to a Twitter account that is

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<v Speaker 2>that purports to be spreading like hidden news about the

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<v Speaker 2>evils of the Chinese communist regime, and they put out

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<v Speaker 2>a video that was a segment from a British milking

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<v Speaker 2>fetish pornography video. Now, if you're not aware the milking,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I can tell, I believe it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of descended from the long lineage of like rubber fetishists, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's like a lot of medical fetish stuff it

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<v Speaker 2>tied into it. But the idea is that men are

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<v Speaker 2>entirely wrapped up on hospital gurney's and giant pumps sucked

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<v Speaker 2>the semen out of him.

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<v Speaker 3>So milk the machine is very like milk what you

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<v Speaker 3>were used to this.

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<v Speaker 2>This Twitter account put this up, claiming that it was

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese government stealing the semen of young men, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Peterson shared it saying it was an unbelievable act

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<v Speaker 2>of evil and then everyone had the best day of

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<v Speaker 2>their lives. And an hour of two later he deleted it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I have been continuing, coward, coward, coward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so strange, so strange that he left the word

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<v Speaker 3>a pair of view dukid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's wild that he's no longer professor. It's very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We're continuing to give him shit for it online, but

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<v Speaker 2>it set us off down an interesting road, and because

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<v Speaker 2>some other stuff fell through, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the wide world of weird right wing come conspiracies. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of them are leased, are going to be right wing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a surprising number of semen based conspiracies. Everybody did

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<v Speaker 2>research on their own special thing. I wanted to start

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<v Speaker 2>by talking about this this Jordan Peterson cum video and

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<v Speaker 2>giving kind of some of the some of the background

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<v Speaker 2>on it so I was. Last July, the Chinese Human

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<v Speaker 2>Sperm Bank of Shanghai announced that it was hosting a

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<v Speaker 2>competition for college students to find out whose semen was

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<v Speaker 2>was the best in terms of, like, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>number of modal sperm per milli leader, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they judge it. And basically the idea

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<v Speaker 2>was that they were trying to find like people with

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<v Speaker 2>sperm concentration greater than sixty million per mili leader, and

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<v Speaker 2>if they visited a sperm bank a set number of

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<v Speaker 2>times in a six month period, they could receive a

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<v Speaker 2>prize that was equivalent to about twelve hundred dollars right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason this is happening is that China, for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, as a result of a number of different policies,

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<v Speaker 2>had negative population growth very recently, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that can cause a problem for a country for

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of reasons. So the government is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>shore up birth rates, and there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>couples in China that have had issues conceiving, and so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a huge amount of demand for sperm in the

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<v Speaker 2>country right now. So this is not a weird story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is actually a thing that happens all around the

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<v Speaker 2>world regularly. But right around the time that this happened,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit after that, it came out that a

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese company started selling what is called in the articles

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<v Speaker 2>I found an automatic sperm extractor to Chinese sperm banks.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is I'm going to send you all the

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<v Speaker 2>link I was king you would oh oh yes, good friends, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, we're all going to see this. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Machines price listing on ali Baba, where it sells for

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<v Speaker 2>about five to six thousand dollars, describes it as a

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<v Speaker 2>device that quote merges modern digital technology, automatic control technology

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<v Speaker 2>and simulation technologies with semen collection and premature ejaculation desensitization

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<v Speaker 2>training function. So it has a number of purposes including

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<v Speaker 2>guess to help guys stop coming too early. Oh, which,

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<v Speaker 2>no shame. It's funny that someone built a machine for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's extremely funny. I think you can buy on Ali Express.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I personally, I'm not attaching anything. I bought

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<v Speaker 3>an Ali Baba to sensitive part to.

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<v Speaker 4>My body makes thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not cheap. Now, the primary these are not being

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<v Speaker 2>used for people who are coming too quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like the worst ever. We're too dtwo this

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<v Speaker 5>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the orientation? Does it stand on the ground and

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<v Speaker 3>you just approach it?

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<v Speaker 4>You you have to stand up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but what if you're a shot king.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm sure they have options. It has like

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<v Speaker 2>the rough shape of like HANDHLD massage device, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like formed like almost an art deco robot vagina.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically from what I've read, kind of the reasoning

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<v Speaker 2>is that, like, hey, we need people to donate sperm.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people feel weird about just masturbating in a clinic,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hope this is a more pleasant experience for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So again this we're laughing because like, look, a machine

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<v Speaker 2>designed to capture seamen is kind of a funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, no shame on anybody for that. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you have both the government trying to encourage

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<v Speaker 2>people to donate sperm and this weird machine kind of

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<v Speaker 2>created fertile ground for a bunch of right wing weirdos

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<v Speaker 2>to start making the ground grounded, I know, fertile ground

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<v Speaker 2>to commit to make the completely ungrounded claim that like

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<v Speaker 2>the government was trying to steal people' seemen right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that is the basis of doctor Jordan B. Peterson's fun

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<v Speaker 2>little freak out on the internet. And I will say

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<v Speaker 2>you should try to find the videos of the automatic

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<v Speaker 2>sperm extractor. This this amazing Japanese machine, because it is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>On the account.

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<v Speaker 5>Do they have to like like like change like I

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<v Speaker 5>assume they changed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can't clean that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you watch the video, there's like a there's a

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<v Speaker 3>rub that like h comes out like let's see it.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that the penis goes in is also the

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<v Speaker 2>captured device, so it is removed with the sperm donation

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<v Speaker 2>when you take it out. So again this is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>funny because come, but there's nothing sinister here. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way that literally everything is. People have

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<v Speaker 2>like spun it up into a nonsense thing. But because

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<v Speaker 2>of this a full, beautiful story which I hope we've

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<v Speaker 2>all gotten to enjoy. I got to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work on the some of you. If you live,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've worked in agriculture, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised that stealing come is a massive industry, like it

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<v Speaker 2>is a There is a lot of money to be

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<v Speaker 2>made in stealing semen. There's enough money to be made

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<v Speaker 2>in stealing semen that there are two different official terms

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<v Speaker 2>that I have found for semen theft. The first is

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<v Speaker 2>sperm jacking.

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<v Speaker 4>How could it get better? How could it get better

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<v Speaker 4>than that?

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<v Speaker 2>It gets better because the second the second is spurgling.

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<v Speaker 4>These are like professionals who like come up with these terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, these are it's a marketing genius. There actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>I did find in my research there is one actual

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese based sperm conspiracy. It's just not a very sinister one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this Chinese businessman, Jesse jabet Zoo who stole there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this I think it was a Canadian company. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a US company who had So this is

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<v Speaker 2>for like bull semen. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you want for bull semen is you don't want if

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<v Speaker 2>you're inceminating cows, you want all of the babies to

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<v Speaker 2>be female generally, right, because bulls are not very with

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<v Speaker 2>outside a certain specific If you're like trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>more breeders or whatever. If you're in industrial agriculture, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want any of the boys, right. You just want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep making those sweet, sweet lady cows that are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more useful to you in a financial sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a US company that developed a method of

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<v Speaker 2>before insemination looking through the sperm and like sorting out

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<v Speaker 2>the sperm that will make female cows. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>apparently hard to do. I mean, it sounds like it

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<v Speaker 2>would be hard to do, right. And this this uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this Chinese businessman was like reverse engineering there. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of actually basically the same story as Jurassic Park. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy has has gotten sued for a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 3>He got checked.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope it works out just as well as Jurassic Park.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very funny. I will say there's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of really wild lines from this the CBC story I found.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna read one to you. Zoo's activities could

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<v Speaker 2>best be described as machiavellian. At various points, he outlined

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<v Speaker 2>a plan to make X Y that's the American company

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<v Speaker 2>quote feel all the time, the sort of damocles is

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<v Speaker 2>on their heads and brag the law is strong, but

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<v Speaker 2>the outlaws are ten times stronger.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay this taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Look Jesse Jabez, my hero, the sperm Bandit incredible sperm Jacker,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the bests in the business.

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<v Speaker 3>This man lives on an island with his cow raptors.

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<v Speaker 2>What a hero. There was also a case of a

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese man who illegally took wagyu cattle sperm too China

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<v Speaker 2>to try to give them sperm, and like the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>government immediately caught him and was like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually incredibly dangerous, Like you're not allowed to just take

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<v Speaker 2>animal breeding material into the country without because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a wide variety of reasons that that could be

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<v Speaker 2>in horribly So he got in a shipload of trouble. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my that's my sperm stories. Everybody, thank you for yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you for spurgling my knowledge. Garrison, we're

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<v Speaker 2>back and James is here to talk to us about

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of sperm jacking that you do when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't jack. I'm talking about jacking your own sperm by

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<v Speaker 2>keeping it inside of you seman retention, Yeah, it's how

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<v Speaker 2>is that, James beautiful?

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<v Speaker 4>Unscripted?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just.

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<v Speaker 6>Write?

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't need to write that, Garrison, So.

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<v Speaker 3>On the back of his hand. He had a brain

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<v Speaker 3>wave at two in the morning and he got that down.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the kind of things you can do when

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<v Speaker 2>you've been podcasting as long as I.

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<v Speaker 3>Am space for several years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in those soggy trenches for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right, we are, after all, at work, so

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<v Speaker 3>let me continue. So I'm going to talk about what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when you keep your home inside you. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is critical journalisten. We are making content.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking of content. Let's talk about the content of some

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<v Speaker 3>Reddit posters. So the what's called the semen retention movement,

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<v Speaker 3>and this will this will shock many of you began

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<v Speaker 3>on Reddit dot com. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like so many one.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>Reddit.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you type that into your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have finished the sentence the same.

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<v Speaker 4>What is auto directitude to Reddit?

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<v Speaker 3>Believe me, we're going to go there, Garrison, because when

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<v Speaker 3>you google sperm retention, you do indeed find some stuff

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<v Speaker 3>on Reddit. And so now they've spun off from Reddit, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they now have their own organization, which is No Fat

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<v Speaker 3>dot Com and No Fat dot Com is a community

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<v Speaker 3>centered sexual health platform. I'm I'm using I'm allowing them

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<v Speaker 3>to define themselves here, I guess designed to help people

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<v Speaker 3>overcome poorn addiction and compulsive sexual behavior, which is is

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily really like like the this isn't the like

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<v Speaker 3>not all seamen retention, as we're going to learn, is

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<v Speaker 3>basically helping people become addiction to porn, but so far

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<v Speaker 3>as that is a thing that that people actually have.

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<v Speaker 3>And if someone was accusing Robert of being addicted to

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<v Speaker 3>porn on on his timeline this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be because he Ratio and Jordan Peterson with

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<v Speaker 2>the Yeah, the pornography video that he mistaking the post

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<v Speaker 2>that's direction. Yeah, yeah, I just want him to respond

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<v Speaker 2>so I could ask him, Jordan, tell me in your

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<v Speaker 2>own words, what you thought was happening in that video.

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<v Speaker 3>I really hope he thinks it's like milking, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>have RFID collars and they get fed based on their

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<v Speaker 3>production level. That would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what did you you're a medical doctor, did

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<v Speaker 2>you think that cum actually worked that way? You could

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<v Speaker 2>just stick a sucker anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just get it out. Okay. So, after after this

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<v Speaker 3>movement began, I read it dot com. It quickly pivoted

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of offering all kinds of weird physical and

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<v Speaker 3>mental health benefits and that's where it was adopted by friends.

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<v Speaker 3>In the podcast The Proud Boys, luckily, we do have

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of insight into why and into the exact

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<v Speaker 3>nature of the no fat fascism that the Proud Boys

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<v Speaker 3>practice thanks to Kyle Cheney, who's a Politico reporter who

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<v Speaker 3>was reporting on the trial of one of the Proud

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<v Speaker 3>Boys accused of traditional on January sixth, called Zach Rell

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<v Speaker 3>their trial for reasons that I'm not exactly clear on

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<v Speaker 3>the Proud Boy I guess it's like the handbook, like

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<v Speaker 3>that the kind of Proud Boy bibles introduced and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>into the into the record, somebody, yeah in there, Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the court record, buddy, because because one of

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<v Speaker 3>the lawyers decided that it was pertinent to the case.

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<v Speaker 3>So a Proud Boy may not ejaculate alone more than

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<v Speaker 3>once in every thirty days. That means he must abstained

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<v Speaker 3>from pordography during that time. And if he needs to ejaculate,

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<v Speaker 3>this is really weird, it must be within one yard

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<v Speaker 3>of a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinatingly, specifically, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and I like that they've they've gone with imperial

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<v Speaker 3>measurements with her consent, so that's nice. The woman may

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<v Speaker 3>not be a prostitute, so that that's the proud pois nature.

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<v Speaker 3>There no fat fairstuism. But I think I think the

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<v Speaker 3>way of understanding why some people practice this perhaps best

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<v Speaker 3>is to is to go on to reddit dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>So I found a post by Reddit user u slash

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<v Speaker 3>monk one night one eight one seven h seems like

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<v Speaker 3>a nice guy, and there are four hundred, four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty up votes on. What I did was I

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<v Speaker 3>went to semen retention and I looked at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sorted by popular posts, found this one from a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of numbers. And so this guy has nine years of

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<v Speaker 3>experience with semen retention. So I'm just going to read

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<v Speaker 3>I'm presuming oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, him and some months off the

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<v Speaker 2>coast of fucking lind spar.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot be healthy. No, I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>There is I will get to this evidence that you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't do this. Uh So, in his nine years of experience,

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<v Speaker 3>he has experienced the following things. Semen, when retained in

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<v Speaker 3>our bodies, has healing, rejuvenating effects. Loss of semen has

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite effects. This may not be scientifically proven, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's proven by experience. That's a red flag. That's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>getting Reddit medical advice. While attempting any task that demands

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<v Speaker 3>high physical, mental, or intellectual abilities, if we are semen

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<v Speaker 3>retention powered, we would actually enjoy the task, which would

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise seem dull. This is called sexual energy transmutation in

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<v Speaker 3>layman's terms.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, wait, that's the laymen's the non laymen term.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got even more. I have no idea spermozoic fucking fission.

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<v Speaker 3>So for peak performance, it's always necessary to be powered

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<v Speaker 3>by seamen. It would be best to use semen only

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<v Speaker 3>for regeneration purposes, since nature originally intended it for regeneration,

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<v Speaker 3>and not use it for sexual purposes apart from the

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<v Speaker 3>create a child. If not serving that purpose, Master whatever

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<v Speaker 3>teach techniques are useful in not letting the seed out

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<v Speaker 3>while having sex. At the end of the day, don't

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<v Speaker 3>let your seed out like a worthless thing. There's more so,

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<v Speaker 3>just contain yourself great, great, which is exactly the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why core religions are based on celibacy, because opposite of

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<v Speaker 3>regeneration is degeneration, which will cause a man to fall

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<v Speaker 3>into a lower state controlled by his lower nature, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than when he's subduing it. We should let seemen retention

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<v Speaker 3>be part of our lives, not something that is done

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<v Speaker 3>for superpowers. For superpowers are, in my experience, the sudden

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<v Speaker 3>ecstasy that we feel once we transition from the degenerated

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<v Speaker 3>to the regenerated state, and that will stabilize after some time,

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<v Speaker 3>similar to how a flight maintains stable altitude after take off.

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<v Speaker 4>Very very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, that's that's what you can hear when the

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<v Speaker 3>when the engine are spinning up. It's just a do track,

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<v Speaker 3>really hard not to nut and it makes that noise.

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<v Speaker 5>So excited for the next Marvel film where the where

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<v Speaker 5>the superhero.

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<v Speaker 2>Come so he can get tiny no fat man.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah he didn't. I should add that This person

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<v Speaker 3>confesses to having lapsed at some point in the nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's Armstrong was on steroids. It's just disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>No one would have seen it coming. See what I

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<v Speaker 3>did there? Okay. So this person then urges other posters

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<v Speaker 3>on the semia retention subreddit to not use streaks to

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<v Speaker 3>outperform others or look better about ourselves or bring others down.

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<v Speaker 3>The battle with lust is a lifelong fight, and the

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<v Speaker 3>more we get better at finding victories. Yeah yeah, buddy,

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<v Speaker 3>there at finding victories over internal battles, the better we

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<v Speaker 3>become as high valued men.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, see, I've often wished that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>the if the pandemic hadn't been a thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could force you all to work in a central location,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have like a wall of murals where I

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<v Speaker 2>put under each of your faces a quote from an

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<v Speaker 2>episode that you've participated in, and James that that would

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<v Speaker 2>be your quote. The battle gets us is a lifelong struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that, I'll get some T shirts knocked up, but

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<v Speaker 3>we can do a fun rate.

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<v Speaker 5>Would we eventually get the and mediate officers? You have

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<v Speaker 5>a portrait hanging on the wall if you one quote underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, on a plaque with a yeah, let

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<v Speaker 3>me get the cash we when we take over the

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<v Speaker 3>Meta offices three weeks from now. Yeah. There is a

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.880
<v Speaker 3>marketing company that has been emailing me for about six

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 3>months telling me how cheap it is to buy a

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 3>billboard by the side of a road and send a

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 3>message to a loved one. So maybe great, maybe doing

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<v Speaker 3>bangarray Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well there will be until

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<v Speaker 3>I put my positive messages about the controlling lust and

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<v Speaker 3>holding semen inside our bodies true and return men to

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<v Speaker 3>their former glory. So a lot of the a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the reddit posts rely on a couple of different studies, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of these studies measured participates. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing is a claiming to increase testosterone right

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<v Speaker 3>right at the bat. Testosterone does have Aslan's armstrong can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you some performance enhancing benefits, so yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>increases your muscle growth, your your coverage from exercise, all

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. One of the studies measured participate testosterone levels

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<v Speaker 3>at baseline before masturbation and then in ten minute intervals

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<v Speaker 3>after masturbation, right, And then they were asked to abstain

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<v Speaker 3>for three weeks, and they came back and they did

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<v Speaker 3>the process again. Testosterone was higher in the baseline measurement

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the three weeks of abstinence, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But the sample size was pretty small, and there's some

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<v Speaker 3>theorizing that the boost was actually caused by the anticipated

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 3>masturbation that they were about to do. At the second

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 3>it was so ready to go, yeah, yeah, he's gun, Yeah,

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 3>you're just ready to pop. After three weeks, the second

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<v Speaker 3>study looked at a forty five percent intre so after

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<v Speaker 3>a few days seven days of abstinence, But even the

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<v Speaker 3>study showed this was a temporary peak that returned to

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<v Speaker 3>normal even with continuing abstinence. So there's just these two studies.

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<v Speaker 3>They're pretty they happened a long time ago. We'll post

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<v Speaker 3>them all in the show notes if you guys want

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<v Speaker 3>to read more about novap science. But we should just

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 3>point out that there is in fact a multitude of

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 3>evidence this is a bad idea that having sex is

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 3>actually good for you. Having sex will toward trying not

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 3>to ejaculate. It's probably not good for you, probably not

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 3>good for your relationship either. One would surmise there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are into that whatever, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well if that's your thing, you do

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.159
<v Speaker 3>you do you. There was a study that investigated the

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<v Speaker 3>motivation for semen and retention among semen and retainers, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it it seemed like people were people

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<v Speaker 3>who felt that like either sex or masturbation was unhealthy

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 3>or wrong or sinful. And there is evidence to show

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 3>that like feeling like guilty about yourself or like living

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 3>with stress and self learning like that is bad for you, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that will reduce your test after a level there's

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 3>also some evidence suggested not ejacul I think can give

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 3>you prostate issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, there's and this is like pretty debatable, like

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 2>most things that people talk about in regards to coming

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and health, Like you can find some studies, like the

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 2>studies on testosterone. Some of them are kind of sketchy. Anyway. Yeah,

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:28.199
<v Speaker 2>don't think O come or come either way. You know,

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>it's whatever. But if you do have a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>fuck one of those Ali Baba robots, I recommend it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about cum demons.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, wait, okay, okay, hard hard pivot here from us.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, we we are not going as far afield

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 4>from the no fat people as as as as you

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<v Speaker 4>would think. Okay, but all right, now, the year is

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty. Everyone on Earth has collectively gone insane. Uh,

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 4>this is this is this is the summer. This is

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 4>the summer of twenty twenty. So this is the part

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty where fun stuff is happening. This is

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 4>like late July, Garrison, That's when we met.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we were getting just incredibly poisoned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we sure were. That'll be fun in like

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty years.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, well, while life or death struggle for the sort

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 4>of the life for death, struggle for the fate of

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.959
<v Speaker 4>the United States and whether or not people are going

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to be conducing murdered by the cops is being waged

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<v Speaker 4>in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>But Donald J. Trump, Donald Donald J.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Donald Trump Junior. That one that's that's that's the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump little Trump here.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Trump, we're you know, looking for looking looking for their

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 4>their their their cure to COVID nineteen on Twitter and okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so as we probably all remember, right, the thing that

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 4>they found was hydroxid. Okay, so one of the first

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 4>ones that they found before before I've remat him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is before we found so much shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, was it inside with them all along? May?

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 4>No, this is this is this is chloric clean the

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 4>thing that was probable. I hope they weren't full of

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 4>the doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Well, we'll get to that where there there's a

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<v Speaker 4>The road is long, but it ends with cum demons.

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<v Speaker 4>We first must walk the road. So the road here

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<v Speaker 4>is Donald Donald Trump Junior posts a tweet saying like this,

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<v Speaker 4>saying this is necessary watching about this video from this

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<v Speaker 4>doctor named doctor Stella Emmanuet. Now Okay, who is this person?

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<v Speaker 4>She she is part of Ah okay, I say part

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<v Speaker 4>of She runs this thing called Firepower Ministries, which, so

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<v Speaker 4>you're going great.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also part of I know, broadly Yeah, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 4>She's also part of America's frontline doctors who are yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I've forgotten. Yeah, these dip ships, Oh my god. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So this is this is very very very much in

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 4>the same vein as architecture nine to eleven truth. They

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 4>found a bunch of people who technically have medical degrees

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 4>or like nurses who were like no, no, vaccines are

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 4>bad and hydroxychloric clean quadratrichlor clean is we'll covid cork

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<v Speaker 4>with that one. Yeah, it's it's, it's been. It's it's

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.959
<v Speaker 4>been a long day. I I've slept for eight hours,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 4>but in like several distinct parts of the day that

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.719
<v Speaker 4>were not continuous. It's been. Things are going things are

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<v Speaker 4>going great.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter if you've taken some horse medicine first.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite possibly, I mean it's not like you could have

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<v Speaker 4>gone worse.

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<v Speaker 3>I get.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, right, So so that this person's from the

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 4>very sketchy doctors who are trying to sell like a

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 4>bunch of random ship to to cure COVID And.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so who actually is this person?

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<v Speaker 4>She is from a ruined and doctor Stella meant Immanue

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<v Speaker 4>was caught up in uh the unbelievably sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>I mean right, like yes, objectively right wing, also very

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 4>very weird wave of Pentecostalism and charismatic Christianity that's been

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 4>sweeping across that part of Africa and as part of

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 4>sort of a you know, sort of like a very

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 4>sort of long range of coordinated effort by by right

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 4>wing Christian missionaries. So okay, so for for for people

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 4>who don't know your Christianity very well, the Pentecostals and

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 4>the charismatic Christians are like firmly in the very very

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 4>weird camp of Christians. Like these are these are people

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 4>who do faith healing. One of the very common sort

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 4>of Pentecostal things is this belief that like like you

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 4>just you talk to God, like God's in your head

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 4>and you just have conversations with him. Now unfortunately for

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 4>like all of us, and and this is you know

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 4>what a thing that is a non insignificant contributing factor

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<v Speaker 4>to why the last I don't know ten years have

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 4>been so bat shit is that like this this originally

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 4>was kind of an isolated Pentecostal thing and like the

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 4>broader evangelicals were like, no, no, no, God only talks to

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 4>me like your pastor, Like he's probably not like you're

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 4>you're not like having a conversation in your head with

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 4>but like change that's changed. Yeah, this shit has this

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 4>ship has fucking taken over everywhere. It's really bad. And

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 4>these people believe a lot of very very weird stuff.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 4>So well, I mean, okay, so like you know, she

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 4>she has like some of the sort of standard like

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>really really hardline like David iike shit, Like she believes

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 4>that the world's being run by aliens and like reptiles,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 4>and like the vaccine has like alien DNA in it

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 4>to like take over your data. You know. It's just

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 4>like sort of kind of Facebook moments Alex Jones. Shit,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 4>yeah right, okay, but okay, I'm gonna read this quote

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 4>from will Sumner. This is a quote from one of

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 4>her for her sermons, They which is, demons are responsible

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 4>for serious guy int ecological problems. And Manuel said, we

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 4>call them all kinds of names, and tremeseus and travisus,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 4>we call them molar pregnancies, we call them fibroids, we

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 4>call them cysts, but most of them were evil deposits

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>from spirit husband.

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<v Speaker 2>God.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they are responsible for miscarriages, impotence, men that can't

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 4>get it up. So all right, immediately we we have

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 4>like we have there are several kinds of coum demons

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 4>here that we're dealing with. So there are like there, there's, there's,

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 4>there's okay. So a lot of this is drawn from

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 4>what is a very like a genu widely unbelievably dubious

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.719
<v Speaker 4>piece of theology. So when I was reading musicching this, right,

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I saw, I saw, I saw someone there was there

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 4>was like a religious scholar who was writing this. He

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, I immediately recognized the theology of this.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 4>This is from this is from Genesis six.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>So okay.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, okay, what what the fuck are

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 4>they talking about? So I I went back and I

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 4>read Okay, So I went back and I read the Genesis,

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to read the two this is.

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>This is from Genesis chapter six.

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<v Speaker 4>Verses one and two, and I am just going to

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 4>read these two sentences and I'm going to see if

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 4>you two can produce cum demons from this, Okay, happy, I.

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Mean I could produce cum demons from almost anything.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 3>That is the power with the right machinery.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I think we know exactly what the

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>right machinery is.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Look, we know that we can produce com demons mechanically.

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Our challenge here is to produce them theologically. Okay, try

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 4>I will, I will use all of all of my knowledge.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>We must, we must find a way to evacuate the

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>vast deference of the soul.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I'm using I'm using the King James translation,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 4>because that's the translation that all these psychos use. And

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 4>it came to pass when men began to multiply on

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 4>the face of the earth and were born onto them,

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 4>that the sons of God saw the daughters of man

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 4>that they were fair, and they took them wives of

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 4>all which they chose.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.479
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so I I do know where they're I I

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 5>do know what what they are doing. So the sons

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 5>of God, those would be what like fallen angels that

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 5>have been procreating with women.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 5>This this ties into like the Book of Enoch stuff,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 5>which was made a little bit like after Genesis, but

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 5>kind of like retconned a lot of like the creation story,

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 5>so I can see where they're they're pulling cum demons from.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 5>But it is it is a bit of a stretch.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're kind of you could say cum demons in

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the way that like god seed. Yeah, you could see it. Yeah,

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>it's that's it is a stretch.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Okay, my, my, my, my analysis because I I

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 4>think I I think they're pulling this out of their ass,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 4>and I think they're pulling this out.

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Of their as.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>It's also about cum demons.

0:31:55.160 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, okay, I I I I have it is

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 5>well known for people who follow me on Twitter.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 4>I have an immense and powerful disrespect for theology. But

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 4>what what part of the sons of God? What what

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 4>part of that gets you to demons and not like

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>because again, isn't the whole point of Christianity that we

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 4>are all God's children? Like is this not a thing

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 4>that they tell you in every single fucking So how

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 4>do you read that and not think they're talking about

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 4>people and immediately jump to come de bit like, here's

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 4>what's going on?

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 5>I could I could explain this because this is the

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 5>King's James version, So this was made in a post

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 5>Book of Enoch world around the around the alleged birth

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 5>of Jesus, the Book of Enoch got very popular, and

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 5>this this introduced the idea of a fallen angel. The

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.239
<v Speaker 5>fallow fallen angel isn't really in the Bible at all,

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 5>it's only it's only in like non biblical Abrahamic texts.

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 5>So this, this idea then kind of got planted into

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 5>a lot of like Catholic mythology as well. So when

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 5>they're there, cause they have a distinction between like this,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 5>like the sons of like the sons of God versus

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 5>what was the what was the thing they used to

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 5>refer to the daughters. The sons are the daughters of

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 5>men exactly, So the daughters are human, where the the

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 5>the sons are like came from God. So that is

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 5>some type of fallen angel that has been cast down

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 5>to earth. Like there they are doing a specific thing.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 5>But it's it's it's it's a result of a whole

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 5>bunch of like mistranslations and a whole bunch of various

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 5>various like Christian and Gnostic texts that been that have

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 5>been misinterpreted for thousands of years by the Catholic Church.

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 5>And it creates a really weird theology that is indistinguishable

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 5>from like Castlevania.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>So I'm blame I blame Martin lu This is Martin

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Luther's fault, like like the.

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, here's the thing.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Keep it in high Latins, understand.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>This, this is this is this is what Martin Luther.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 4>I was specifically because okay, so this was already happen

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 4>the cath the Church was already doing this right, but

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Martin Luther had a chance to fix this ship. And

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 4>she was like, do you know what I'm gonna do

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 4>and say, is that I am going to I am

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 4>going to turn against the peasant revolts and I'm going

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 4>to do a lot. I'm going to bring about a

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 4>level of anti Semitism that is going to allow me

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 4>to outflank the Inquisition on the right. She could have

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 4>been fixing this bullshit, no anti Semitism. Woo, I gotta

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 4>keep my patron lords and down he was.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>He was German like, there's only so much you can ask,

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>that's true.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I'm happy that we can all go to

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 5>sleep at night worrying about the sons of God implanting semen.

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 4>That that's that's come demon type pie one, right, that

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 4>is okay, So though those are those are the demons

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>that like they they have they have sex with women

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 4>and they produce nephelim from or sometimes also nephlin.

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 5>There's there's a lot of sort of conflicting sort of theology.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 5>All that stuff comes from the Book of Enoch. All

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 5>that stuff is non canon to the modern Bible, but

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 5>it's where it's where it comes from.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Fucking Council of Nicia, Okay.

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 4>But there's also there's also a second there's also the

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>second kind of cum demon, right, which is these are

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 4>the these are well okay, so succubi and incuby are

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 4>based here we go, I do it. I was it

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 4>was counting down the the other kind of of demon.

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 4>So you have your incuby, right, who are another type

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 4>of sex demon. The incuby fuck men so they can

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 4>steal their semen and they're they're they're you know, there's

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 4>stents are reasons that. There's another thing that she talks about,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 4>which is that there are witches who have like astral

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 4>spirit sex with men in their sleep. And if you're

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 4>like having a sex dream, it's because you're having actual

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 4>spirit sex.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 2>No no, yeah, I mean, like I like Bill Murray,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I've I've experienced that. Oh no, that was Bill Murray. Sorry,

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 2>my mistake.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Wait, yes, okay, okay, the cloud, the fog is clearing.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I've I've had I've had sex with too many sex demons.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 4>It's it's a real issue.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 4>So so all right, So we have the sex demons

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 4>who are like trying to pregnant. You have the sex

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 4>tamans we're trying to steal your com We also have

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 4>the actual we have the actual projecting projecting witches, right,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.720
<v Speaker 4>and the actual projecting witches are trying to steal people's

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 4>come as part of an Illuminati plot to create like

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 4>an even more powerful witch. And the even more powerful

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 4>witch is going to use gay marriage and children's toys

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 4>to like destroy the fabric of Western civilization and thus

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 4>bring about sort of jen general new world order, et cetera.

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Have heard this, honestly, Witch meetings, Yeah, that is not.

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 2>As far from the backstory to Warhammer forty thousand as

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>it should be.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 4>That's very sadly true.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want Warhammer forty thousands coming to our com

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 3>episode if I'm honied.

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's I mean look, there's a lot of

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>people who are interested in both Semen Retention and Warhammer

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>forty thousand.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 4>That's a tight venda ram.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they all play ultra marines. That was a

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, pretty good Warhammer forty thousand jokes of those

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 2>of you who play.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I also I also learned a couple of days ago

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 4>that I one of the many crimes of the Emperor

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 4>forty k was passing off in a miry Bikara quote

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<v Speaker 4>is his own.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that that is that was That was a

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<v Speaker 2>good bit. That was a really good bit. It's little

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>pieces like that that let you know that Dan Abnett's

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty bass. That was my favorite part of the book.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny, that's like, that's literally canon.

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<v Speaker 5>I do have like three pages written on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, little bit. That's that's that's the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>same stems go off.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, I The one thing I'll add on is

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 5>that one of the more funny modern versions of these,

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 5>if you go on the Beta Drill subreddit, the Recreational

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Petrol subreddit, you can fight who try to take enough

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 5>beda drill to have sex with the hat man, which

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 5>is another another form of trying to sum a shadow People.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you have to you have to explain your terms

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>for people here. Yeah, I'm the man is a tall,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 2>thin man wearing a hat who appears when you take

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>hallucinogenic doses of benadrill because you can't afford better drugs

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>because you're seventeen.

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we're younger.

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:18.879
<v Speaker 2>And there's some people the hat man.

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 5>Some people find the hat man extremely attractive or some

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 5>of like the female shadow people variants, and they try

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 5>to they have I have read multiple reports of people

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 5>explaining their sexual experiences with shadow people.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, the President of the United States and his son

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 4>were promoting this, so this is great.

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 3>This website, by the way, absolute adventures on here. I'm

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 3>just reading about how to use Christ's blood as a weapon. Amazing.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good.

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that problems he yeah.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Do you know who won't steal your seamen?

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 5>Everybody?

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>We can't promise that.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I can.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 5>I can promise any advertiser on this show I've personally

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 5>approved to make sure they will not come into your

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 5>bedroom and still your semen.

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Wow, how do you how does the approval precis work?

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<v Speaker 5>Out of interest, I cannot divulge privately, Garrison for we

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 5>are we are going to close off by talking about

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 5>a sperm and testosterone, to two of our favorite topics

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 5>for this episode. For some reason, about about a year ago,

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 5>a trailer on Fox News dropped for a new batch

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 5>of Tucker Carlson originals titled The End of Men. It

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<v Speaker 5>opens with the text that reads, in the current year,

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<v Speaker 5>the cycle continues.

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<v Speaker 8>Once a society collapses, then you're in hard times. Well,

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 8>hot iron sharpens iron, as they say, and those hard

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 8>times inevitably produce men who are tough, men, who are resourceful,

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 8>men who are strong enough to survive, and then they

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 8>go on to re establish order, and so the cycle

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 8>begins again.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, there's a few funny things about this video, from

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 5>the ripped shirtless dudes milking cows to wrestling each other

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 5>and shooting bottles of canola oil. There's had a hundreche

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 5>that are shooting like ten bottles of canola oil.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 4>For some reason, maybe.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Then Mussolini's like, they're into the Mussolini's death.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 5>He was bye by far the most bizarre.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I suspect they're shooting the canola because it's like a

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>seed oil thing. They think that like seed oil, it's

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a right wing thing. Oils are like sucking out your testosterone.

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, It's something very silly, but by far the most

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 5>bizarre thing in this trailer is a shot of a

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 5>naked man with outstretched arms like Jesus on the crossa style,

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 5>standing in front of a lake at dusk, a white

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 5>machine shining a glowing red light on his dick.

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 9>What and.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 5>Again, powerful image at the climax of the music from

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and one in Space Odyssey.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Uh, there's this.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 5>There's this man facing balls first in front of this

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 5>large red light at the end of this trailer.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I it should never have been any cause on our

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>podcast or on Fox News for anyone to save the

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>line after the end of the climax of the music

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>from two thousand and one a Space Odyssey.

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's the thing we're objecting to from this episode.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 2>That's the line.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because it shouldn't have climax. It lost its

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 3>power in that moment.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 4>Considering both like the no, no one.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Second, James, that was a very good joke.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, thank you for seeing me, buddy. Yeah.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 5>So considering both like the text at the beginning and

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 5>then some of the narration that we just heard the trailer.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 5>They're kind of this weird like KLi Yuga thing, right,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 5>that is that is a bit of a bit of

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 5>what's going on here because.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Kali Yuga again. You can listen to our episodes on

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Savitri Devi for a little more information about this. But

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:16.919
<v Speaker 2>it's like this weird right wing un like quasi apocalyptic

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>concept that evolved during an intermix between some of the

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>early Nazis and some of the people who are currently

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>behind the present leader of India. It's it's way too

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>esoteric weird to get into, but it's one of the

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>things that like the old.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the real fun like it.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 5>We're not going to get into it too much, but

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.959
<v Speaker 5>I think the previous unset.

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 2>That wound up adjacent to at Tucker Carlson episode because

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 2>it's some like weird esoteric Nazi wizard shit.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, And that previous November, Joe Rogan posted a KLi

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Yuga meme which went viral. It's it's about how hard

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 5>times creates strong men, which create good times, which lead

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 5>to weak men, which create hard times. It's a fucking

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 5>silly yeah. His his the accompanying text on the Instagram

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 5>post that that Rogan did said, civilizations move in predictable cycles.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 5>We are in the Kali Yuga, the age of conflict.

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 5>All of the chaos we're seeing right now is predicted

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 5>in Hinduism thousands of years ago. Rogan was probably just

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 5>like parroting something that he heard from one of his

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 5>many fascy or new ag friends, which, considering Rogan's social circle,

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 5>that could very well just be the same person.

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, one of his fucking sparring buddies is

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 2>either friends with the Nazi or just stumbled upon a

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 2>fucking the wrong podcast and then told him that when

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>they were smoking weed. And you know, yes, I mean

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that's honestly to It's problematic because of his platform, but

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 2>that's how I learned everything about esoterica. That I learned

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>when I was in my twenties was some I was

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>smoking weed with some sketchy dude who was going place

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have been on the internet.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 5>So a few months after Rogan posted this meme, we

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 5>have Tucker Carlson making this whole mini series surrounding this

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Hard Times Creates Strong Men kind of trend. It's taking

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 5>cues from the online manosphere, and Tucker posited that weak

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 5>unmanly men are leading to the collapse of civilization and

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 5>a hardening of men is necessary to save it, according

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 5>to According to Tucker, one of the threats to manhood

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 5>is a quote unquote total collapse in testosterone levels amongst

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 5>men in recent years. And the solution goes beyond just

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 5>your typical like anti soy crusading that Tucker has done

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 5>in the past. Now, Tucker has turned to the cutting

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 5>edge science of bromiopathic medicine as.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 4>Advocates damn it, as advocated.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 5>For by a quote unquote fitness professional named Andrew McGovern

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 5>who touts that infrared light and testical tanning is this

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 5>DIESX mod for plummeting tea levels and men.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 10>So obviously half the viewers right now are like, what

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 10>that's crotestical taking.

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 10>But my view is Okay, testosterol levels crash and nobody

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 10>says anything about it. That's crazy. So why is it

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 10>crazy to seek solutions?

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not crazy to seek solutions.

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 6>And I think I was recently exposed to a term

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 6>called bromeopathy, and I think there's a lot of people

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 6>out there right now that are don't trust the mainstream information.

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 5>This TV special is constantly referred to as a documentary,

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 5>So surely you would expect Tucker to try and like

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 5>interview scientists or like anyone with expertise on this topic.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Of course, not actually not the way to anyone series.

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 5>Andrew McGovern are, our bromeopathic hero works as a personal

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 5>trader at Lifetime Fitness in Columbus, Ohio, and he hasn't

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:04.720
<v Speaker 5>even been a trader for very about a decade ago.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 5>About a decade ago, he was the manager of an

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 5>Abercrombie and Fitch store in Miami.

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh perfect, Yes you don't know, Okay, now my descriptions

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>from it. He works at the Abercrombie and Finish store.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Wait, but in Miami.

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Hey, if you want to get trim that's where you

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 2>get trimmed.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Type of dude. He's emerging here.

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 5>As of twenty seventeen, he was the director of operations

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:40.720
<v Speaker 5>for Petland retail stores.

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>He's getting funnier.

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.720
<v Speaker 3>But this guy's resume is amusing.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 5>But Tucker, being a competent journalist, did not just interview

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 5>one person. However, Kid Rock was brought on to be

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 5>the sole voice of reasons.

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, Garrison, you left, But kid Rock is the

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>other person I've gotten for scription drugs from.

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 3>So Real Bastion in the platonic cave of men stands

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Kid Rock and a guy from Apacrombie and Fitch. We

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 3>must only beat our shadows.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Dude, stop testical tanning.

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Come on, I mean, I haven't heard anything, Bobby. I'm

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 7>starting a punk rock band and it's called testical tanning.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>That's the end of it.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 10>I mean, don't you think at this point, when so

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 10>many of the therapies, the paths they've told us to take,

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 10>have turned out to be dead ends that have really

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 10>hurt people, why wouldn't open minded people seek new solutions.

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the hell is going on in

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 4>this world. I'm not even sure if I understood that question.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 2>But some days I just want to stop this planet.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Let me off.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:48.280
<v Speaker 5>Like Kid Rock was not did not buy into testical

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 5>tanning the same way Tucker seems to.

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>How oh god is That's what I said?

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 4>I said he was brought out to be the sole reason.

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 3>But we thought you were joking because it's Kid Rock.

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.919
<v Speaker 2>You were joking. Believe you.

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>No, he's the only person that doesn't buy it.

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Kid Rock. It stands with science.

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>It is indeed Sweet Home, Alabama all summer long.

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Tucker was not the first person to advocate for testicular

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 5>tanning as the solution to an allegedly problematic dip in

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 5>testosterone levels. Dating back to twenty fifteen, you can find

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 5>articles online such as quote former MLB player Gabe Kapler

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 5>says men who want to get stronger should tan their

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 5>testicles from Complex and quote I put a giant red

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 5>light on my balls to triple white testostero levels from

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 5>a Men's Health twenty seventeen.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Is that written by Ben Greenfield Benny Johnce because he

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 3>normally pops up with these things, which one the Men's

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Health one. Let me let me see a guy who

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 3>injected dick to make it bigger. I have it in

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 3>my show notes here.

0:48:51.760 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 5>This was written by someone named Ben Greenfield.

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>This balland one James So proud of you today, Buddy.

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm so happy we have you on our team.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Jez, are you taking Are you taking performance enhancing drugs?

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>For this podcast?

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Sadly, Robert, I'm not, but this is so funny. We

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>have stepped into a gold mine of contact with Ben Greenfield,

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 3>the guy who injected his own dick with stem cells

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 3>to make it bigger.

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 4>That's so funny.

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.720
<v Speaker 3>I urge you. I compel you. If you have any

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 3>free time in your day, just google Ben Greenfield penis.

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>There will be several articles. It's supposed to be reptable outlets.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 3>It will just fucking make you unwell.

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's that is great to hear it.

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 5>But despite not being the first person to talk about

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 5>testicular tanning, Tucker was certainly the most impactful. After the

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 5>airing of the End of Men, Testicular tanning showed a

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 5>seven thousand increase in relative search interest on Google and

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 5>thirty five thousand increase in tweets on the topic. Now,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 5>surely some of these things are stuff like what are

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 5>making fun of it?

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Right some tweeks, I'm sure.

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 5>A lot Also a lot of it's also people who

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 5>are just talking about it genuinely. To quote a study

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 5>published in JMIR, a dermatology publication, quote, the promotion of

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 5>testicular tanning generated significant public interest in an evidence lacking

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 5>and potentially dangerous health trend. Dermatologists and other healthcare professionals

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 5>should be aware of these new viral health trends to

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 5>best consultations and combat health misinformation. Unquote so like in

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 5>terms of actual data, A twenty seventeen meta analysis of

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 5>studies on sperm counts found that in North America, Europe, Australia,

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 5>and New Zealand, men's sperm counts have declined by about

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 5>fifty percent between nineteen seventy three and twenty eleven. Now,

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 5>these results have not been enough to really cause broad

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 5>concern unless you're like a right wing influencer for men,

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 5>because there doesn't really seem to be an equal drop

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 5>in testostere level compared.

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.919
<v Speaker 2>To problems mankind has had on the whole. Not enough

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 2>semen comshat, it's not one of the.

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.359
<v Speaker 5>Yes and like compared to previous decades. There is this

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 5>maybe like a twenty percent decrease in total testosterone levels

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 5>amongst adolescent and young adult males, but that's highly fluxtual

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 5>and it's impacted heavily by diet.

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.479
<v Speaker 4>It's It's suspected that.

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Pollution and environmental degradation are also suspected of being contributing factors,

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 5>with plastics like a thighlight being known to interfere with

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 5>the production of hormones like distosterone. But this this area

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 5>of research is still heavily contested, but still that has

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 5>not stopped fitness YouTubers and conservative influencers from tying this

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 5>to like the soy boy feminization of men and drumming

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 5>up panic to grow their social media followings, sell their

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 5>supplements and advertise affiliate products. The krem Dela Creme of

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 5>red lights for testicular tanning is the Juve Light, a

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 5>light that is a light therapy panel company which sells

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 5>these LEDs. They're they're like this, They're like this upscale

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 5>wellness brand. The smallest model they have costs over one

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.320
<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars, with the full body ones going for around

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 5>ten grand.

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 3>This is when you know it's a grift. If someone

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 3>is telling you that they need to sell you sunlight,

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 3>they are having a fucking laugh.

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 5>Our friend Ben Greenfield advocates a quote that advocates that

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 5>you spend the big bucks on drew lest you quote

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 5>fry your balls to a crisp with a cheap knockoff.

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't want to do that, would you?

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 11>Like?

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 3>This is unwild?

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it seems like it's maybe a bad idea.

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I can teach you how to how to how to

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>cook your balls safely without spending any money at all.

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Get a pair of double A batteries, take them right

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 2>out of your out of your your your your your

0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 2>remote control. You stick the active in bottle of water,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you put your hand on your testicles and

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 2>it'll complete the circuit and power your testicles up with electricity,

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 2>which you can then ejaculate instead of come.

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 5>They'll probably give you superpowers too.

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Almost certainly, Garrison.

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Legally, this is not a recommendation to do this. If

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 4>you do this, that shit's not on us. You did

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 4>that your infliction.

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Please do not connect batteries to you.

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 5>Dick to quote that JMIR study evaluating the public's interest

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 5>into secular tanning quote. The interest in this topic may

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 5>be partially explained by the men's attention and advertising men's

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 5>sexual health and hormone replacement or homone enhancing therapies receive

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:43.360
<v Speaker 5>in the US. Although subsequent media coverage largely disfavored testicular

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 5>tanning due to lacking evidence and potential dangers, other health

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:50.360
<v Speaker 5>influencers came to defend and encourage the practice of testicular tanning,

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 5>specifically by using UV light as an unquote. As an example,

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 5>here is a clip from fitness YouTuber Elliott Hulsey's Strength

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Camp with one point seven million followers.

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 11>Blast your balls with sunshine to increase testosterone. Now you

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 11>can drop your draws and let your balls get kissed

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 11>by the sun. Or you can try one of these

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.280
<v Speaker 11>light panels to roast my nuts and be more manly.

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 11>Nineteen thirty nine study suggests the UV light exposure to

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 11>your testicles increases testosterone by two hundred percent. If you

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 11>want to join me in this experiment, you can find

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 11>one of these bad.

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Boys Joseyhealth dot com.

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 11>Then just go to personal labs dot com, get your

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 11>blood tested, get your testosterone. Then after eight to twelve weeks,

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 11>check it again and find out if the nut rusting

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 11>really works.

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 5>So this whole idea goes back to this one nineteen

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 5>thirty nine Studies eighteen thirty nine.

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now let's get let's you get shied

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 3>to nineteen thirty nine.

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 11>Man.

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 5>And if there's one thing I trust, it's science from

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 5>nineteen thirty nine.

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Yep, got any comments on or on race in this study.

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 5>So this study was public in the journal ender Chronology,

0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 5>and it found that frequent UV irritation to the genitals

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:11.720
<v Speaker 5>increased urinary and rosterone, a metabolite of distosterone, increases levels

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 5>by nearly two hundred percent quote unquote. Now you'll be

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 5>shocked to learn that there may be problems with this study.

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Guess how many test subjects were included in this In

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:25.359
<v Speaker 5>this study, I'm gonna be generous and say eight, So

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 5>miass eight. James V.

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 3>Greenfailed just one? One?

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 5>You say one, Robert, how many? How many do you

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 5>think are in the study?

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Geez, I think like seven was sacred to the Nazis,

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to say.

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 5>That five, A grand total of five people are in

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 5>the study.

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I give the too much credit. They had to

0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>pick this sacred discordian number. Bullshit.

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 5>Three of them are fifty four years old and have

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 5>manic depressive psychosis.

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 4>The other two are.

0:55:54.800 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Twenty honestly not a bad Nazi apparently representative sample for

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Tucker's audience.

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I was about to say the same thing. This is

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 3>actually watches his show.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 5>The other two or twenty eight and forty five and

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 5>have a quote psychopathia with depressive features, which is very

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 5>again old timey term.

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Everyone on Twitter, et cetera, et cetera.

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 5>But I think what actually happened is I think they

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 5>did this study at an asylum and just found people

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 5>with depressive psychosis to do the study on. It's just

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 5>these five, these five rand people. No, no individual graft

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 5>results were produced. It only showed the quot unquote typical

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 5>reaction and there wasn't even a control group for the study.

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Was good silence.

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 5>Who not to mention there's many problems with like measuring

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 5>to stosterone in the first place, because it changes broadly

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 5>day to day and by age, and it's very kind

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 5>of unreliable. To quote the JMIR study again quote beyond

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 5>this questionable study, research has shown that exposure to UV

0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 5>radigation may increase sex steroid hormone levels. However, these studies

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.799
<v Speaker 5>either do not include human participants or do not specifically

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 5>evaluate u V radiation exposure to the genitals. There is

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 5>there is not a single other study since then that

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 5>has done anything resembling like peer reviewed science.

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what, why.

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Everybody go to go to go fund me help cool

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Zone determine whether or not testical tanning works and we'll

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 2>get that control group.

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so what my my other question about this, aren't

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 4>aren't all these people getting fucking ball cancer?

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 2>We are?

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 9>We are Okay, we are about to get to that,

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 9>because yes, you may think that shining you for lights

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 9>on your balls might have some long term problems.

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great that a lot of South Durants come

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:50.360
<v Speaker 3>back to the episode again.

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 5>So uh Vice interviewed Seth Cohen, a urologist and the

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 5>director of the Sexual Dysfunction Program at n y U

0:57:58.880 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Langdon Health.

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Quote.

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not aware of any science or data or any

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 5>journal publications proving that red light therapy improves male testosterone

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 5>en quote. We change recommendations on medical therapies based on

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 5>double blind, placebo controlled randomized trials, large studies with thousands

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 5>of patients. That's where you'll find if there's any really

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 5>statistical significance between red light therapy and a placebo Could

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 5>these men who underwent red light therapy and came out

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 5>and felt stronger and more manly, could that have been

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 5>a placebo effect? Of course it could unquote. So and

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 5>as Mia mentioned, we have not really even gotten into

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 5>the potential dangers yet. Close direct heat to your testicles

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 5>actually damages sperm count, on top of the risk of

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 5>giving yourself ball cancer by blasting concentrated UV light on

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 5>your genitals for twenty minutes a day, every day of

0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 5>the week, which is what is recommended to quote that

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:59.760
<v Speaker 5>study one last time quote. Research shows that excessive exposure

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 5>to you V radiation may lead to higher rates of

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 5>genital tumor formation and decreased sperm counts, as spermo to

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 5>genesis is temperature dependent. Thus, given the current obsession with

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 5>optimizing male hormone levels, the high cost of red light therapy,

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 5>and misleading information labeling of testicular retanning by prominent influencers,

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 5>there may be an increase in men exposing themselves to

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 5>UV radiation and developing associated complications unquotes.

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, heroic, So guys.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 5>Almost done here. But man, it's pretty it's pretty funny

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 5>that all of the worst people you know are going

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 5>to get ball cancery.

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't stop them.

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I you know, there was a period of time

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 2>in my life when I'd said where I will never

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>which cancer on anybody. But if you are deliberately exposing

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 2>your testicles for the sun to the sun and the

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>hope of getting superpowers because of Nazi science, it's okay.

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 2>It's it's okay, Like I'm not going to mourn that.

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.240
<v Speaker 5>To be fair, that I thirty nine study was from

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 5>the United States, so.

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 2>He's talking about the other Nazi science.

1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, yeah, well yeah, And I think I think

1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 5>a part of this whole narrative of like the total

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 5>collapse of men's testosterone levels, as as Tucker puts.

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:24.360
<v Speaker 4>It, wish yeah, so much easier.

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:27.200
<v Speaker 5>But I think this is more about men in power

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 5>feeling that their position of assumed superiority is being threatened. Really,

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 5>all of our quack science and conspiracy theory stories today

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 5>all revolve around this, like subliminal dog whistle. It's no

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 5>mistake that Tucker titled his program the End of Men.

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:44.560
<v Speaker 5>In all the stories we're covering today, it is the

1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:47.880
<v Speaker 5>fear of emasculation that is the hook used to drum

1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.560
<v Speaker 5>up fear and anger about how liberal feminism is eroding manhood.

1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 5>It targets some of young men's sexual insecurities while promoting

1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:59.040
<v Speaker 5>this like anti woke return to the old ways of

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:00.320
<v Speaker 5>rugged masculine.

1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I might add because I think you're missing one

1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 2>aspect of it. I think you're identifying what he's signaling

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 2>to his listeners and what they get out of it.

1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But I also think that what he and the other

1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>folks who are kind of in positions of power and

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:17.439
<v Speaker 2>influence in the right get out of this because they're

1:01:17.440 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 2>not they don't believe this, they're not actually motivated by that.

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Now what this is, and because we do not know

1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:28.120
<v Speaker 2>specifically why, like testosterone rates, maybe lower white sperm counts

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 2>are definitely lower, but it likely has to do with

1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a massive variety of industrial pollutants in the environment, and

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 2>with the fact that industrial agriculture and the process nature

1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of our foods is having a negative

1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 2>impact on all these things, like it's consequences of capitalism, right,

1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and because the consequences are getting increasingly hard to ignore,

1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the thing that people like that need to do is

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.720
<v Speaker 2>find either a cure for them or another way to

1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:58.920
<v Speaker 2>blame or another thing to blame them on.

1:01:59.040 --> 1:01:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And so if the aspect the things that are horribly

1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>unhealthy about the society that we have built is causing

1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:11.040
<v Speaker 2>men to suffer consequences in their bodies, the thing to

1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:13.360
<v Speaker 2>do on the right is to blame that shit on

1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the liberals emasculating men. And the solution is whatever kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shit we can sell you, right, Like, that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here, that's the motivation, and it happens outside

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<v Speaker 2>of like manshit too, like that's all the right has anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like their economic theories have been proven disastrously wrong. They

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<v Speaker 2>have no actual ability to govern in a meaningful way

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<v Speaker 2>other than by causing harm to people. So it's entirely

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<v Speaker 2>about taking the consequences of the world that they advocate

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<v Speaker 2>and blaming them on someone else and selling you snake

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<v Speaker 2>oil to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, And so that is most of the of

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<v Speaker 5>the testicular tanning fun that I got into.

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<v Speaker 3>We have covered all the things that Bank Greenfield did

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<v Speaker 3>to his dacutat in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get back on this subject, but it is time

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<v Speaker 2>for us to end. This is already over an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to leave you all, all of you,

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<v Speaker 2>all of you beautiful. First, I want to thank all

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<v Speaker 2>of our beautiful correspondence for their research. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to leave all of you with this simple piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>If you feel like your testicles aren't getting enough solar radiation,

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<v Speaker 2>simply purchase a glass cutter and an old microwave, cut

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<v Speaker 2>a circular hole in the microwave, and you bag it

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<v Speaker 2>while it's on. You'll be okay. That is our legally

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<v Speaker 2>binding health advice. That's the end of the episode.

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