WEBVTT - Six Wives, Four Dead 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.000 Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:25.840 Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived. That is actually a 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:34.320 child's rhyme. My daughter taught me divorce, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:41.840 It's referring to Henry the Eighth, the King of England, 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.239 that when he would get tired of a wife, I 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.239 just have her beheaded, make up some claim against her, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.040 and have her head chopped out off right out there 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.200 outside the tower. That was King Henry. But guess what. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:02.600 It also applies to a modern day felon Thomas Randolph. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:10.759 Why because he also has had six wives and four 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.200 of them are dead. Who and the hey would keep 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.679 marrying this guy when he's got four dead wives. Okay, 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.280 that's a whole other can of worms. But how does 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.959 one guy have six wives and four of them are 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:32.880 dead and nobody notices? I means he grace. This is 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.440 Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.959 Foxcination in series XEM one eleven, let's kick it off. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.240 Take a listen to our friends at crime Watch. Deally. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.000 It's a Thursday night in Las Vegas, but Sin City 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.520 locals Tom and wife Sharon are leaving the neon lights 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.520 of the strip to the tourists and sharing a romantic 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.280 dinner at a quiet suburban restaurant before going to the movies. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.600 Sharon's favorite thing in the entire world was to go 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.919 to movies. She was a movie fanatic. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.920 But on this date night, Sharon is said to be 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.560 in the mood for something else. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.400 She wanted to go home and have sex with Tom Randolph, 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.359 and so he takes her home. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.880 Okay, yeah, forget the fancy dinner in the movie that 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.520 I just said I wanted to do. Now she's overwhelmed 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.680 with a desire for sex with Randolph. Where do we 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:25.639 get that information, Jackie, oh oh from Randolph. He's so irresistible. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.040 Forget the movie. I've got to get home with you 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:35.360 right now and have sex. Okay, you can probably take 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.760 that with a box of salt. But that said, take 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.120 a listener for instant use three. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.520 I actually started shutting the door as I get in. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.680 The couple had dinner and then returned home. 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.120 Now this door was closed, I helped what up. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.680 He claims an intruder was inside and shot and killed 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.000 his wife, Sharon, Causewit entered first. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:59.120 Sharon's laying in the floor, face down, said Sharon. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:00.760 Jared. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.320 Wow, he doesn't really seem that upset about it, does 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:10.000 he should? She's dead, so they're out for dinner in 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.520 the movie, she suddenly changed her mind and has to 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:18.239 go home right then for sex. Forget about waiting till later. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.799 Had to be right then and lo and the hold. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.200 There's an intruder that happens to be there when they 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:30.320 come in, and she, not him, gets shot dead. Let's 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.720 just take a listen to that nine to one one. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:55.640 Call ran out rut the garage as I was thinking out. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:05.560 And I don't know, okay, I a bunch of times 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.600 on your wife? Your wife? 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.920 Oh okay? The plot thakans Now he knows the intruder 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.640 is somebody named Mike. Boy. Do I smell a rat? 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.680 Let's see what more we can learn. Uh, take a 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.160 listen to this I'm a one call we got from 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.480 Killer Jeans podcast. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.960 Qutter flat on her back, put her. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.599 Should I try to find this gun or something so 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:30.920 you don't shoot? But he's not dead? 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.799 Is he moving? 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:32.560 No? 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.159 BO, get his gun, and BO get his gun quickly? 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.279 Hooking on your wife quarter flat. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.239 I'm gonna walk the garage so he can't eat. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:45.240 Okay, sure, you gotta do this quick, qutter flat on 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:45.599 her back. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.039 It's flood everywhere. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.440 All right, I'm gonna help you, but I need you 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.560 to listen to her and try to help her. You 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.039 got to listen to me so we can try to 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:55.440 help her. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.480 Oh darn, I hate that when somebody's gone down right 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:06.080 in front of you, when they actually blade there's more. Listen, Okay, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.240 put her flat on her back. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:22.080 Sure, Oh god, here, what's your status myself? 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.839 Sure? 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:28.480 Hear me? 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:35.040 Sure? 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:35.960 Oh god? 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:43.440 Sure, come back to the phone. I can't roll back 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.440 go everywhere. You've got one everywhere? 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.039 What the strange difference where you can't move her? 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.839 I can't get Troy get you got to try to 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:57.599 do CPR. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.719 I need you to try what she weighs about one 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.560 hundred and twenty pounds and you can't roll her over. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.760 Watch out, Daniel day Lewis, move aside, Christian Bell. That 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:13.160 asker's not for you. This guy is a very strong contender. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:19.320 You are hearing Thomas Randolph crying or something like crying 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.000 when his wife is shot dead after she gives into 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.960 the overwhelming urge to go home that minute and have 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:32.039 sex with her husband. Now, remember This is by far 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:38.360 the first time that he has had a wife suddenly die. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:43.280 But how is it that he knows the assailant? How 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.599 does he know is the guy named Mike Take a 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.800 listener friends at KSNV. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.839 Randolph says, he sees something in the darkness. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.360 I thought it just seemed like a shadow. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.559 That shadow belonged to thirty eight year old Michael James Miller, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.080 a friend of Randolph's. Randolph says he grabbed the gun 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.440 before running into the masked intruder. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.760 And that's when I just pushed it. Boom boom boom. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.720 He started going out toward the shed. Okay, joining me 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.960 in all star panel to make sense of why are 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.080 there four dead wives out of six? First of all, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.120 I want to go to chief investigative reporter at dailymail 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:23.000 dot com, Jen Smith is with us, Jen, who is Sharon? 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.280 Is this wife number? What is this wife number six? 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:32.000 This is wife number six? Yes, Sharon was Thomas Randolph's 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.240 last wife. They were only married for two years before 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.440 she was killed in this strange shall we say failed 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.280 home burglary. As he described it, she was the sixth 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:47.640 wife he'd been married five times before that, and another 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:54.280 wee of Phil's wife Nancy, also died in mysterious circumstances. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.679 Well, who is Mike. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.080 So Mike the. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.720 Person this intruder that he claimed that he didn't know 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.040 and then he let the name flip we later learn 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.520 as a man, handyman. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.760 So, Jensmith, you're telling me that the guy named Mike 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.240 is actually the handyman for Randolph. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.120 Yeah, that's right. So Mike worked for Randolph and his 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.760 wife Sharon. They lived in this pretty, you know, pleasant, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.880 if not unremarkable home in a suburb of Las Vegas. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.720 They knew each other, he did all jobs for them 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:29.160 around the. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.360 High guys, take a listen now to our cut four 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:34.560 from Crime Watch Daily. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.520 The dead intruder is identified as Michael Miller, a thirty 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.520 eight year old handyman Tom had admitted was no stranger 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.280 to him on his nine one one call. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.040 I know he'd put me off. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.040 He tried to rictly off. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.840 Investigators learned Tom had befriended Miller several months earlier. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.400 He takes him under his wing and starts having him 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.040 around the house constantly. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.160 The kindness of heart, he befriended what he called a bum. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.679 Now, if this guy is in fact using a handyman 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.720 to kill his wife. It wouldn't be the first time 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.360 we've seen that scenario. Does anybody remember Big Bob aka 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.040 Bob Bishara Take a listen our friends at ABC. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.320 Prominent Michigan businessman Bob Bashara has been sentenced to at 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.000 least six years in jail for attempting and failing to 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.719 hire someone to kill a man named Joseph Gains Now. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.600 Gains confessed to the murder of Bashara's wife, Jane, who 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.040 was strangled in January, and says that Bashara paid him 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.120 to do it. Against his attorneys, Recline is willing to 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.440 testify against Bashara. Bashara, he says, against is a liar 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.000 and his effort to find a hitman. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.920 It was a mistake and as a part of that investigation, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.360 Big Bob Ashera's kinky sex life including a lot of 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.640 S and M and bondage was uncovered. Didn't help with 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.160 a jury. But in this case, what do we really 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:00.880 know about the handyman? 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.319 Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:19.360 But not a. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:25.240 Violona is joining us. Former homicide prosecutor now veteran criminal 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.200 defense attorney. You can find her at Violona Law dot com. BERNARDA. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.400 If in fact, he set up the death the murder 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.440 of his sixth wife. Talk about the similar transactions that 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.640 can come into a jury proven or unproven bad acts 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.000 or doesn't have to be a conviction for a jury 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.400 to hear about a similar act in the past. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.480 Exactly prior bad acts do come into evidence. You have 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.440 to think that usually this comes into evidence because you 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.079 want to show mold them, You want to show intent, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.599 You want to show a common plan or scheme. And 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.960 here where it is like, you're not talking about just 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.120 one wife or two wife. You're talking about multiple wife. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.000 So obviously they had where where there's he, there's fire. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:16.240 Guys, just how close is Randolph to the handyman? Take 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.719 a listen to our friend Melissa McCarty. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.200 Shooting more than just the breeze with him. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.959 They're constantly shooting guns, They're constantly out doing target practice. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:31.400 They're constantly having conversations over the telephone. In like a 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.760 six or eight week period, we have over three hundred 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.520 and three phone calls between the. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:35.920 Two of them. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:42.920 Nobody was inspiring to kill anyone total and two three 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.840 hundred phone calls, big deal. Two hundred of them was 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.679 answering machines and she said thirty short messages. You want 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.480 to We're going to pizza. You want to go with us? 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.160 Me and Sheerrick. We're going to pizza. You want to 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.480 go with us. We're going to the bar. You want 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.360 to go with us. He's got nothing. He didn't plan 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.080 on killing us. He came home. He planned on robbing 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.520 us because the next day we were leaving, and all 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.600 that money's going with me and I'm buying five acres 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.800 and somewhere in Biaber around the middle of Utah. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.320 Okay. You know, when I think of romance, I think 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.120 of Ocean's eleven. Is that wrong? I think about Brad 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:23.079 Pitt and George Clooney, that kind of romance. I don't 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:27.280 think of a romance where you're shooting the other person's 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.240 wife when they come in from a night on the town. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.800 To you, Robert Crispin joining us, very well known private investigator, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.600 former Federal Task Force officer for the Department of Justice, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:44.440 the DEA, the Miami Field Division, former homicide detectives. You 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.640 can find him at Crispininvestigations dot com. Robert, this whole 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.520 thing stinks. And did you hear him on the nine 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.080 one one call? He's not crying. It sounds like he's 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.119 yodling softly in the background. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.080 Listen, Nanthew, you and I have listened to so many 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.080 nine on one calls that originate from a homicide scene. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.320 When that first caller is calling in and these people 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.400 are going into the tunnel vision, they are completely freaking out. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.040 It's just coming across the dead body, especially your wife, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.560 you completely lose it. He doesn't lose it on this 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.800 call at all. I don't think he does. And he's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.959 not giving any He's more interested in running out to 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.240 see if the guy's out there or close the door 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.600 so you don't come in to shoot him. Well that's 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.359 not true. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.240 And so you can't turn your wife. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:33.240 Over exactly exactly, no immediate first care, none, and this 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.680 is your wife. That's right. There is why Detective o'reiley 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.680 didn't buy any of this story, and it started from there. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.439 I want to focus on the homicide. That's why I've 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.920 got doctor jan Gorniac with me. But I've got to 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.600 ask doctor Chloe Carmichael a question, and I would have 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.720 to know this before I took this to a jury. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.800 Doctor Chloe clinical psychologist, Women's Health Magazine Advisory Board, author 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:03.079 of nervous energy, the power of your anxiety. Okay, now 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.960 that's interesting, and you can find her at doctor Chloe, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.440 Doctor Chloe Carmichael, thank you for being with us. Why 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.720 would anybody marry a guy that's already had five wives 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.360 and three of them are dead, and then you become 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.960 number four, six wives. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.520 And four dead. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.320 I would run to the heels as if I had 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:25.360 seen a monster. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.080 Right, and Nancy, I think many people probably would. The 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.560 only thing maybe to consider, though, is that this person 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.920 I think we can agreed probably catch something. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.880 I almost had one date with a guy. He's seemed 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.400 nice enough, but he told me he had filed for 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:47.480 three bankruptcy's. I'm like, bye, See, of course I was 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.800 very nice. I had dinner, I paid for dinner, obviously, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.800 and then I just kind of never called back because 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.800 one way's uptick. Okay, that can happen to a lot 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.600 of people, but three three in a row, Ah, No, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.520 something is wrong there. I didn't know what was wrong, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.040 but he certainly didn't have six wives for of them dead. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.080 I hear you, Nancy. There's a few things though, to 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.640 consider that are maybe different, of course from you. So 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.560 first of all, I don't think that you have a 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.640 dependent personality. Now I'm not saying that she did, but 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.720 to answer your question, a woman that has a dependent personality, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:28.080 that is. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:29.880 What you mean. A dependent personality. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.800 People who are unable to, you know, fill their own needs, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.800 who almost really kind of like taking on other people's struggles. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.440 Somebody who seems to have problems can almost become more 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.960 attractive to that person because it makes them feel special. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.080 The other thing to consider is that this, uh, this 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.840 man probably is a sociopath. He probably has you know, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.040 what we call the dark cognitive triads. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.960 So what is a dark cognitive triad That sounds. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.520 Air well, it is terrible. So it's a combination of 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:10.200 three personality traits, which is narcissism, machia valianism, and psychopathy. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.720 So basically, it's someone who is a narcissist, who doesn't 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.200 have any qualms about hurting other people, and is really 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:23.200 good at manipulating people. And so ironically, again, that type 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.200 of person can be very charming. And that's why I 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.440 found it interesting that I'm not saying I believe him 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.560 that she wanted to leave the date in order to 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.280 go home and have sex, but that does point to 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.200 some kind of narcissism. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.320 Doctor Gorniac is joining us. Doctor jan Gorniac, let me 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.920 tell you something. This is her Bailey Wick, former medical 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.880 examiner for Clark County, that is Vegas. Let me tell 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.479 you never lack a business. There board certified forensic pathologists, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.120 Doctor Gorniac, I have found that in many cases a 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:02.000 gunshot victim can be saved with the proper CPR. That 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.320 didn't happen here. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.879 You're absolutely correct. So also, you know it's going to 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.160 depend on where those shots were. Depending on where those 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:16.040 shots were, speedy resuscitation effort to transport to a hospital, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.800 there is a possibility that a life could be saved. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.280 You know, I'm just thinking about her dying there, Doctor 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.480 Jane Gorniac. There she walks through the door and there's 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.919 an immediate assault. There's an immediate barrage of bullets. What 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:37.040 would she have experienced as the blood drained out of 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.280 her body, as her life drained out of her body? 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.320 Could she say? Could she hear? Could she understand what 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:43.320 was happening to her? 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.240 There is a good possibility that she could. There's only 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.399 one instance. Injury to the brainstem where it controls you're 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.159 breathing and your respiration. If you have an injury to 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.360 the brain stem, you're essentially dye immediately. But other shots, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.919 say to the chest, even to the head, you're going 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.720 to bleed out first. You're going to hammer it to 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.359 If you have a shot to the heart or to 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.320 the lung, you're going to go into shock first. So 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.040 it's not an immediate depth. So you're going to go 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.439 into what we call a hemorrhagic shock. You're just gonna 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.960 your blood is going to start bleeding into the chest 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.879 or out of your body. Your brain is not going 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.560 to be able to get any oxygen. So I'm not 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.520 going to say it's a slow depth, but at one 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.760 point you're going to be aware until you lose consciousness 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.879 and then your body is going to be devoid of oxygen. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:36.080 So there will be a timeframe, maybe seconds, maybe minutes 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.960 where you are aware, unfortunately that you are dying. You 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.720 may not be able to articulate that, but there's an 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.240 awareness until you go in responsive from your injuries. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:52.440 So Robert Crispin joining USPI, former FED, can you imagine 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.080 her lying there, She walks in the door and gets 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:01.679 sit with all these bullets. She's dying, She's dying and 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.119 she hears her husband on nine one one pretending to 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.400 cry and saying I can't roll her over, and he's 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.960 just sitting there and she realizes he's in on it. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.760 You know, the sad part about that, Nancy is she's 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.520 going to die. She's not going to be able to 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.520 tell her side of the story. She's not going to 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.639 be telling what happened on that call and how his 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.360 actions really were and how she knows she was killed 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.199 at his hands. That's really sad and that's a horrible 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.960 way to die. And that's why detectives put this all 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.719 together and bring all the evidence in because the crime scene, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.120 the interviews, the nine one one calls, those are all 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:44.359 the story that's coming from the deceased. That deceased is 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.359 allowing all that to come out, and they work for 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.600 the deceased, and that's how they get these people prosecuted. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.320 You know, I think the story starts a lot longer 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.560 before that nine to one one call, all the way 0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:00.560 back to why number one? Who is she? And how 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.120 has this guy gotten away with four dead wives? Four 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.200 out of six? That's pretty bad odds. Take a listen 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.719 to Thomas Randolph's first wife. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.080 He had a lot of extra curricular activities. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.440 Namely other women marriage. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.960 I would really call her marriage. 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:32.840 There was a lot of did you she married Tom? 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.679 The day that the her divorce was final, she expressed 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:44.080 killing fear and things escalated. Tom and I counseled her 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:48.320 to leave any way she could, and I would help 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.639 her if she. 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:50.240 Wanted me to. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.920 You were hearing, Catherine Thomas. This is Thomas Randolph's first wife, 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.520 and he says Thomas Randolph had a lot of extra 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:03.320 curricular activities and other words, sleeping around. She says she 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.119 wouldn't even call it a marriage because there was so 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.359 much infidelity on her his part, and the day of 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.040 their divorce is the day he gets married to wife 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.480 number two. Well, frankly, Catherine Thomas, she count of lucky stars. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.400 She did manage to live. But who is this Becky 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:26.360 that so sadly has a sex affair with Thomas Randolph. 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.280 Take a listen to this. 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:30.680 Justice is my kids to the world. I want to 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:35.200 clarify that she is my daughter, Crystal. She she's very smart. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.240 I didn't plan her. I planned Justice, like I told you. 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.320 I knew I'm going to get Kathy pregnant, whether I 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.919 married or not. I picked her because she looked like 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.399 Parahpota majors, just no boots. So I knew she'd make 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.159 beautiful babies. Okay, I cheated on her, but there's a 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:56.520 lot of reasons I cheated on her. She didn't satisfy me. Okay, 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.080 shouldn't have cheated on her, should have divorced her. She 0:21:59.160 --> 0:21:59.960 knew about Vicky. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.359 Oh that makes it okay. I guess she knew I 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.840 was having sex with Becky. So did you hear all 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.399 that about justice is my gift to the world, and 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.080 so as my daughter Christa. He's talking about his children 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.040 are gifts to the world. And in the same thing, 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.359 did I hear this correctly, Jackie? I was going to 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.760 get Kathy pregnant, whether I married her or not. I 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.600 picked her because she his word's not mine, looked like 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.439 Farah faucet, just no boobs. Did he just say that? Okay? 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.760 How do I know that? And these wives don't know it? 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.560 You are hearing the playboy with six wives, four of 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.840 them did, speaking in his own voice. But you know what, 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:39.400 let's listen to some more. 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.800 Take a listen, and this is the guilt in it. 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.399 I just lost it and I said, I am so 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.280 sick and tired of you saying you're going to kill yourself. 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:52.879 If you're going to kill yourself, just do it and 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.959 put everybody out of your misery. Becky, I've had it 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.960 and I don't to hear it. I'm showing her up 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.600 in my throat, had it. I can't deal with no more. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.320 If you're going to do it, do it and did 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:05.760 it over? 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:06.719 Uh? 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:12.240 Okay, you are hearing our friends a Killer Gene podcast 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.920 and you were hearing Thomas Randolph actually speaking. Uh. Isn't 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.399 that one of the single biggest know knows ever doctor Chloe. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.360 When someone you believe is suicidal and you just say, 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.520 you know what, go ahead and kill yourself, you're driving 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:28.840 us crazy. Go die. 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:32.159 Well, certainly, my goodness, it's a it's a it's an 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.400 astonishing thing to say. It really goes back to that 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.080 dark triad idea that this is a person who is 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:46.520 displaying narcissism as well as machiavellianism and psychopathy. It's it's 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:50.479 really quite stunning that he would say that. And you know, 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.840 to your point earlier as to why a woman would 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.520 even marry, you know, a man with this type of 0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.159 a history or this type of personality. I know it 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.520 really is hard to believe, but people that have this 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:08.920 combination of personality treats can actually summon themselves to be 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.760