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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived. That is actually a

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Speaker 2: child's rhyme. My daughter taught me divorce, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.

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Speaker 2: It's referring to Henry the Eighth, the King of England,

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Speaker 2: that when he would get tired of a wife, I

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Speaker 2: just have her beheaded, make up some claim against her,

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Speaker 2: and have her head chopped out off right out there

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Speaker 2: outside the tower. That was King Henry. But guess what.

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Speaker 2: It also applies to a modern day felon Thomas Randolph.

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Speaker 2: Why because he also has had six wives and four

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Speaker 2: of them are dead. Who and the hey would keep

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Speaker 2: marrying this guy when he's got four dead wives. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's a whole other can of worms. But how does

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Speaker 2: one guy have six wives and four of them are

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Speaker 2: dead and nobody notices? I means he grace. This is

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at

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Speaker 2: Foxcination in series XEM one eleven, let's kick it off.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at crime Watch. Deally.

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Speaker 3: It's a Thursday night in Las Vegas, but Sin City

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Speaker 3: locals Tom and wife Sharon are leaving the neon lights

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Speaker 3: of the strip to the tourists and sharing a romantic

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Speaker 3: dinner at a quiet suburban restaurant before going to the movies.

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Speaker 4: Sharon's favorite thing in the entire world was to go

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Speaker 4: to movies. She was a movie fanatic.

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Speaker 3: But on this date night, Sharon is said to be

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Speaker 3: in the mood for something else.

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Speaker 4: She wanted to go home and have sex with Tom Randolph,

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Speaker 4: and so he takes her home.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, forget the fancy dinner in the movie that

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Speaker 2: I just said I wanted to do. Now she's overwhelmed

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Speaker 2: with a desire for sex with Randolph. Where do we

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Speaker 2: get that information, Jackie, oh oh from Randolph. He's so irresistible.

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Speaker 2: Forget the movie. I've got to get home with you

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Speaker 2: right now and have sex. Okay, you can probably take

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Speaker 2: that with a box of salt. But that said, take

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Speaker 2: a listener for instant use three.

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Speaker 5: I actually started shutting the door as I get in.

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Speaker 6: The couple had dinner and then returned home.

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Speaker 2: Now this door was closed, I helped what up.

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Speaker 6: He claims an intruder was inside and shot and killed

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Speaker 6: his wife, Sharon, Causewit entered first.

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Speaker 7: Sharon's laying in the floor, face down, said Sharon.

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Speaker 8: Jared.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he doesn't really seem that upset about it, does

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Speaker 2: he should? She's dead, so they're out for dinner in

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Speaker 2: the movie, she suddenly changed her mind and has to

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Speaker 2: go home right then for sex. Forget about waiting till later.

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Speaker 2: Had to be right then and lo and the hold.

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Speaker 2: There's an intruder that happens to be there when they

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Speaker 2: come in, and she, not him, gets shot dead. Let's

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Speaker 2: just take a listen to that nine to one one.

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Speaker 9: Call ran out rut the garage as I was thinking out.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know, okay, I a bunch of times

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Speaker 10: on your wife? Your wife?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay? The plot thakans Now he knows the intruder

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Speaker 2: is somebody named Mike. Boy. Do I smell a rat?

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Speaker 2: Let's see what more we can learn. Uh, take a

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Speaker 2: listen to this I'm a one call we got from

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Speaker 2: Killer Jeans podcast.

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Speaker 11: Qutter flat on her back, put her.

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Speaker 5: Should I try to find this gun or something so

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Speaker 11: Is he moving?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 11: BO, get his gun, and BO get his gun quickly?

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Speaker 11: Hooking on your wife quarter flat.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna walk the garage so he can't eat.

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Speaker 11: Okay, sure, you gotta do this quick, qutter flat on

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Speaker 10: It's flood everywhere.

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Speaker 11: All right, I'm gonna help you, but I need you

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Speaker 11: to listen to her and try to help her. You

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Speaker 2: Oh darn, I hate that when somebody's gone down right

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Speaker 2: in front of you, when they actually blade there's more. Listen, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Sure, Oh god, here, what's your status myself?

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Speaker 10: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Hear me?

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Speaker 11: Sure, come back to the phone. I can't roll back

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Speaker 11: go everywhere. You've got one everywhere?

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Speaker 10: What the strange difference where you can't move her?

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Speaker 11: I can't get Troy get you got to try to

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Speaker 2: I need you to try what she weighs about one

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Speaker 2: Watch out, Daniel day Lewis, move aside, Christian Bell. That

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Speaker 2: asker's not for you. This guy is a very strong contender.

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Speaker 2: You are hearing Thomas Randolph crying or something like crying

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Speaker 2: when his wife is shot dead after she gives into

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Speaker 2: the first time that he has had a wife suddenly die.

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Speaker 2: But how is it that he knows the assailant? How

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Speaker 2: does he know is the guy named Mike Take a

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Speaker 2: listener friends at KSNV.

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Speaker 6: Randolph says, he sees something in the darkness.

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Speaker 2: I thought it just seemed like a shadow.

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Speaker 6: That shadow belonged to thirty eight year old Michael James Miller,

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Speaker 6: a friend of Randolph's. Randolph says he grabbed the gun

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Speaker 2: And that's when I just pushed it. Boom boom boom.

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Speaker 2: in all star panel to make sense of why are

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Speaker 2: there four dead wives out of six? First of all,

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Speaker 2: I want to go to chief investigative reporter at dailymail

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Speaker 2: dot com, Jen Smith is with us, Jen, who is Sharon?

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Speaker 2: Is this wife number? What is this wife number six?

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Speaker 7: This is wife number six? Yes, Sharon was Thomas Randolph's

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Speaker 7: last wife. They were only married for two years before

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Speaker 7: she was killed in this strange shall we say failed

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Speaker 7: home burglary. As he described it, she was the sixth

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Speaker 7: wife he'd been married five times before that, and another

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Speaker 7: wee of Phil's wife Nancy, also died in mysterious circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Well, who is Mike.

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Speaker 12: So Mike the.

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Speaker 7: Person this intruder that he claimed that he didn't know

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Speaker 7: and then he let the name flip we later learn

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Speaker 7: as a man, handyman.

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Speaker 2: So, Jensmith, you're telling me that the guy named Mike

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Speaker 2: is actually the handyman for Randolph.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. So Mike worked for Randolph and his

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Speaker 7: wife Sharon. They lived in this pretty, you know, pleasant,

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Speaker 7: They knew each other, he did all jobs for them

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Speaker 2: High guys, take a listen now to our cut four

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Speaker 2: from Crime Watch Daily.

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Speaker 3: The dead intruder is identified as Michael Miller, a thirty

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Speaker 3: eight year old handyman Tom had admitted was no stranger

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Speaker 3: to him on his nine one one call.

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Speaker 5: I know he'd put me off.

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Speaker 11: He tried to rictly off.

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Speaker 3: Investigators learned Tom had befriended Miller several months earlier.

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Speaker 4: He takes him under his wing and starts having him

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Speaker 3: The kindness of heart, he befriended what he called a bum.

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Speaker 2: Now, if this guy is in fact using a handyman

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Speaker 2: to kill his wife. It wouldn't be the first time

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Speaker 2: we've seen that scenario. Does anybody remember Big Bob aka

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Speaker 2: Bob Bishara Take a listen our friends at ABC.

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Speaker 13: Prominent Michigan businessman Bob Bashara has been sentenced to at

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Speaker 13: least six years in jail for attempting and failing to

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Speaker 13: hire someone to kill a man named Joseph Gains Now.

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Speaker 13: Gains confessed to the murder of Bashara's wife, Jane, who

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Speaker 13: was strangled in January, and says that Bashara paid him

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Speaker 13: to do it. Against his attorneys, Recline is willing to

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Speaker 13: testify against Bashara. Bashara, he says, against is a liar

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Speaker 13: and his effort to find a hitman.

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Speaker 2: It was a mistake and as a part of that investigation,

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Speaker 2: Big Bob Ashera's kinky sex life including a lot of

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Speaker 2: S and M and bondage was uncovered. Didn't help with

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Speaker 2: a jury. But in this case, what do we really

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Speaker 2: know about the handyman?

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 5: But not a.

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Speaker 2: Violona is joining us. Former homicide prosecutor now veteran criminal

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Speaker 2: defense attorney. You can find her at Violona Law dot com. BERNARDA.

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Speaker 2: If in fact, he set up the death the murder

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Speaker 2: of his sixth wife. Talk about the similar transactions that

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Speaker 2: can come into a jury proven or unproven bad acts

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Speaker 2: or doesn't have to be a conviction for a jury

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Speaker 2: to hear about a similar act in the past.

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Speaker 14: Exactly prior bad acts do come into evidence. You have

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Speaker 14: to think that usually this comes into evidence because you

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Speaker 14: want to show mold them, You want to show intent,

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Speaker 14: You want to show a common plan or scheme. And

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Speaker 14: here where it is like, you're not talking about just

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Speaker 14: one wife or two wife. You're talking about multiple wife.

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Speaker 14: So obviously they had where where there's he, there's fire.

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Speaker 2: Guys, just how close is Randolph to the handyman? Take

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Speaker 2: a listen to our friend Melissa McCarty.

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Speaker 3: Shooting more than just the breeze with him.

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Speaker 4: They're constantly shooting guns, They're constantly out doing target practice.

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Speaker 4: They're constantly having conversations over the telephone. In like a

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Speaker 4: six or eight week period, we have over three hundred

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Speaker 2: Two of them.

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Speaker 5: Nobody was inspiring to kill anyone total and two three

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Speaker 5: hundred phone calls, big deal. Two hundred of them was

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Speaker 5: answering machines and she said thirty short messages. You want

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Speaker 5: to We're going to pizza. You want to go with us?

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Speaker 5: Me and Sheerrick. We're going to pizza. You want to

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Speaker 5: go with us. We're going to the bar. You want

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Speaker 5: to go with us. He's got nothing. He didn't plan

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Speaker 5: on killing us. He came home. He planned on robbing

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Speaker 5: that money's going with me and I'm buying five acres

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Speaker 5: and somewhere in Biaber around the middle of Utah.

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Speaker 2: Okay. You know, when I think of romance, I think

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Speaker 2: of Ocean's eleven. Is that wrong? I think about Brad

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Speaker 2: Pitt and George Clooney, that kind of romance. I don't

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Speaker 2: think of a romance where you're shooting the other person's

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Speaker 2: To you, Robert Crispin joining us, very well known private investigator,

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Speaker 2: former Federal Task Force officer for the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 2: the DEA, the Miami Field Division, former homicide detectives. You

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Speaker 2: can find him at Crispininvestigations dot com. Robert, this whole

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Speaker 2: thing stinks. And did you hear him on the nine

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Speaker 2: one one call? He's not crying. It sounds like he's

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Speaker 2: yodling softly in the background.

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Speaker 8: Listen, Nanthew, you and I have listened to so many

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Speaker 8: nine on one calls that originate from a homicide scene.

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Speaker 8: When that first caller is calling in and these people

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Speaker 8: are going into the tunnel vision, they are completely freaking out.

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Speaker 8: It's just coming across the dead body, especially your wife,

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Speaker 8: you completely lose it. He doesn't lose it on this

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Speaker 8: call at all. I don't think he does. And he's

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Speaker 8: not giving any He's more interested in running out to

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Speaker 8: see if the guy's out there or close the door

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Speaker 8: so you don't come in to shoot him. Well that's

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Speaker 8: not true.

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Speaker 2: And so you can't turn your wife.

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Speaker 8: Over exactly exactly, no immediate first care, none, and this

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Speaker 8: is your wife. That's right. There is why Detective o'reiley

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Speaker 8: didn't buy any of this story, and it started from there.

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Speaker 2: I want to focus on the homicide. That's why I've

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Speaker 2: Doctor Chloe clinical psychologist, Women's Health Magazine Advisory Board, author

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Speaker 2: that's interesting, and you can find her at doctor Chloe,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Chloe Carmichael, thank you for being with us. Why

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Speaker 12: Right, and Nancy, I think many people probably would. The

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Speaker 2: I almost had one date with a guy. He's seemed

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just thinking about her dying there, Doctor

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Speaker 8: You know, the sad part about that, Nancy is she's

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the story starts a lot longer

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Speaker 2: back to why number one? Who is she? And how

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Speaker 7: There was a lot of did you she married Tom?

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Speaker 5: Justice is my kids to the world. I want to

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Speaker 5: clarify that she is my daughter, Crystal. She she's very smart.

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Speaker 5: I didn't plan her. I planned Justice, like I told you.

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Speaker 5: Take a listen, and this is the guilt in it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you are hearing our friends a Killer Gene podcast

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Speaker 2: Okay, still stuck in my head. I married her because

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Speaker 5: So I opened the garage and there's Becky's car, and

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Speaker 2: They mishandled the investigation. The bank started foreclosure before they

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Speaker 5: Listen doctor Edwards swinging. The pathologists performed me autopsy. It

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Speaker 5: was his opinion that Becky's body was moved after she

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Speaker 5: was shot. And again he's our best witness, and we

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Speaker 5: include his transcripts from a preliminary hearing, and he says

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Speaker 5: the body wasn't she was shot where she was, that

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Speaker 5: she died from a numerous things. My poor Becky lifts

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Speaker 5: for half an hour. And he said, definitely her arm

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Speaker 5: could have moved, her legs could have moved, probably would

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Speaker 5: have moved because she would have been in terrible pain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, doctor Jane Gorniac, you don pathologists. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: it's all your fault. Have you ever noticed, doctor Gorniac,

447
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Speaker 2: that when you testifying for the state, somehow the defense

448
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: tries to blame everything on you.

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Speaker 1: It's their client.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones. He's the one that finds her body,

451
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Speaker 2: he's the one that told her to go kill herself

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Speaker 2: and uh oh another wife did. But yet he blames

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Speaker 2: everybody but himself, including the pathologist.

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Speaker 15: Yes, that that happened. So we're up there as advocates

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Speaker 15: for our patient. We are independent investigators, so we can

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Speaker 15: just testify to our findings. We're not there to say

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Speaker 15: who did it, who didn't do it, or the true

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Speaker 15: quote unquote facts of the of the case based on

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Speaker 15: the like I said, before on some of your other podcasts.

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Speaker 15: The body tells us the story, so we can look

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Speaker 15: at the body, look at the scene, things around the body,

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Speaker 15: at the scene while they're on the table, and they

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Speaker 15: will tell their story and then we just interpret it

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Speaker 15: in order to tell the judge and the jury.

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Speaker 5: So yes, the.

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Speaker 15: Defense attorneys can sometimes come back at us, but they're

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Speaker 15: coming back at their science. So I try to look

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Speaker 15: at that way to not me. It's the signs, but

469
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Speaker 15: the sigence doesn't lie.

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Speaker 2: You know how you go to the snakehouse at the

471
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Speaker 2: zoo and you look at poison snakes through a glass.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel right now listening to Thomas Randolph

473
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Speaker 2: rambling on and on to our friends at Killer Jane's, Well,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't stop there. Listen.

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Speaker 5: Of course I am. I am a narcissist. That's because

476
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Speaker 5: I've got a really high IQ and because I've been

477
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Speaker 5: a player. But anybody that's successful, anybody that's intelligence, they're

478
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Speaker 5: going to be an they're going to be somewhat narcissistic.

479
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 5: It seems like everybody and their brother wanted to bust

480
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Speaker 5: me for drugs. That's what the UK case is about.

481
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Speaker 5: The drugs and all the women I had sex with,

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Speaker 5: and it's not criminal. It may be not good if

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Speaker 5: you're married, but or they're married, but it's not criminal.

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Speaker 5: The times were different back in the eighties than they

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Speaker 5: are today.

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Speaker 2: The times are different, BERNARDA. Do you know how much

487
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Speaker 2: I want to cross examine this purve? The times were different, my.

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Speaker 14: Rear end, The times were different.

489
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Speaker 2: Drugs about cheating have never been okay exactly.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't matter what error you're coming up in. So

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Speaker 14: it's so crazy to guy how much he loved to

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Speaker 14: talk and that he's gotten away with it for so

493
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Speaker 14: long despite all his statements out the MP black he

494
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Speaker 14: fell for it.

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Speaker 2: People actually fell for it. But it's not just about

496
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Speaker 2: all the sex and all the cheating. There's another motive.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen now. I cut twenty six from crime.

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Speaker 17: Online Goald's death rule the suicide, and Randolph received over

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Speaker 17: a half million dollar life insurance payout. Randolph was later

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Speaker 17: charged with her murder when Erring Tarantino went to police

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Speaker 17: saying Randolph tried to get him to kill Becky while

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Speaker 17: awaiting trial. A sting operation now Randolph trying to have

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Speaker 17: Tarantino killed. Randolph was acquitted of the murder charge and

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Speaker 17: pleading to a lesser charge of witness tampering with the

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Speaker 17: Tarantino case.

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Jim Smith is joining me, Chief investigative reporter, dailymail dot com.

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Speaker 2: He actually got five hundred thousand dollars life insurance on

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Speaker 2: Becky because her death was actually ruled a suicide. Then

510
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Speaker 2: it turns out from Tarantino he tried to hire Tarantino

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Speaker 2: to kill Becky, but then Tarantino ends up there too.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that's believe it or not, fancy, that's correct.

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Speaker 7: He claims it. His wife has you know, killed herself

514
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Speaker 7: this life insurance claim and is given a huge amount

515
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Speaker 7: of money, you know, half a million dollars. Someone then

516
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 7: comes forward and says no, actually he asked me to

517
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Speaker 7: kill her and best personal so later ends up dead.

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Speaker 2: But yet women keep marrying him. And then this goes

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00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: forward and he is acquitted. Yes, he is acquitted, but

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Speaker 2: that doesn't stop another woman from marrying him. Let's see,

521
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Speaker 2: there was Catherine, then there was Becky, and now here

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Speaker 2: we go wife number three. Take a listen to our

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Speaker 2: friends at crime Online and cut twenty seven.

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Speaker 17: Gana Allman was Randolph's third wife. One day Randolph was

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Speaker 17: cleaning his gun at the dining room table, told her

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Speaker 17: the gun was not loaded, but it went off anyway.

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Speaker 17: The bullet nearly hit her and Gana, it was close

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Speaker 17: enough to see the smoke come out of the hole.

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Speaker 2: What does she have to say about it? Take a

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Speaker 2: listen to what wife number three has to say to

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Speaker 2: Vegas Review Journal what.

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Speaker 4: Happened at your vision table.

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Speaker 16: Supposedly there was no bullets in the gun.

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Speaker 10: And that he was cleaning the car at the dining table,

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Speaker 10: the cab not very far away from.

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Speaker 2: Jump the floor Jenn Smith. Okay, he's cleaning again with

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Speaker 2: her sitting at the table, and the gun goes off.

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Speaker 2: She says she thought he tried to kill her, and

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Speaker 2: he was not prosecuted.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's absolutely right, man. See so there is quite

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Speaker 7: a large gap in between the white number two Becky

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Speaker 7: and wife number three Gaina. They end up divorcing in

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Speaker 7: two thousand and four. Lucky escape for Gana when you

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Speaker 7: look at how the rest of his wife turned out.

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Speaker 7: But she later tells this story that during their marriage,

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Speaker 7: he's cleaning the gun at home. She believes it was

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Speaker 7: an attempt to murder her.

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Speaker 14: The gun goes off.

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Speaker 7: Now He clearly is used to handling guns and it

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Speaker 7: didn't often fire accidentally or while he was cleaning it,

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Speaker 7: so she believed that he had tried to kill her. Now,

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Speaker 7: we're not sure that she necessarily reported this to the

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Speaker 7: authorities when it happened. This all came out later following

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Speaker 7: the death of Randolph's sixth wife, but that was her

555
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 7: story and she was never investigating for it. He was

556
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Speaker 7: never arrested for attempted murder of Gayna either.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so wife number three after the gun cleaning incident,

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Speaker 2: takes off for the heels. She runs for the heels,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't stop yet another woman falling for Thomas Randolph.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't make this up. Take a listen

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Speaker 2: our friends at crime Online twenty eight.

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Speaker 17: Thomas Randolph later married Francis Randolph. Francis Randolph passed away

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Speaker 17: in the hospital after she had successful heart surgery. Thomas

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Speaker 17: Randolph didn't allow her daughter to visit Francis at the hospital.

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Speaker 17: Thomas Randolph told her he wanted to see Francis alone.

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Speaker 17: When he came out of her room, he announced that

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Speaker 17: she was dead. He had her mother cremated within twenty

568
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Speaker 17: four hours of her death. And sent ashes to the

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Speaker 17: family in pill bottles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jen Smith, I think I'm at wife number four,

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Speaker 2: Francis Randolph. She's in the hospital with heart surgery. It's successful,

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Speaker 2: but he won't let her daughter come in the room.

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Speaker 2: He goes into visit her and comes down and says

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Speaker 2: she's dead and has her cruitment it in twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours and sends ashes to the family in pill bottles.

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Speaker 2: Did I understand that correctly?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely perfectly, Nancafe. I mean, red flags are all

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Speaker 7: over this right. Not only does she die very sudden,

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Speaker 7: that she dies after what was, as you say, a

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Speaker 7: successful heart surgery. Now wait till you're this. After Francis

581
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Speaker 7: dies and after he sends the ashes in a pill bottle,

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Speaker 7: he then successfully sues the hospital who was caring for her,

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Speaker 7: and he wins a settlement, so he gets money out

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Speaker 7: of the hospital where she was being cared for, where

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Speaker 7: she eventually died in really mysterious circumstances. We don't know

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Speaker 7: how much the settlement was four It was a confidential one,

587
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Speaker 7: but he manages to con as well for what he

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Speaker 7: claimed was inefficient or ineffective care of Francis, who he

589
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Speaker 7: said she'd ever have died, but the death specific sad.

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Speaker 7: She died natural causes, which empowered him to do the

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Speaker 7: hospital that I'd been looking after her.

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Speaker 2: Of course he had to have her cremated immediately because

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Speaker 2: autopsy would likely have revealed if she had died from

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Speaker 2: let's just say, asphyxiation in the hospital room. And then,

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00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: of course, following that, yes, following that comes along wife

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Speaker 2: number five. Listen to crime Online.

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Speaker 17: Thomas Randolph's fifth wife was Leonis Stapleton. There's not a

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Speaker 17: lot of public knowledge about her. In court during the

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Speaker 17: first trial in twenty seventeen, family and friends all testified

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Speaker 17: a Stapleton had died of cancer. This according to the

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Speaker 17: Review Journal. Beyond that, very little is known about her.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to find out. I'd like to have her

603
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: body zoomed and find out how she really died. I mean,

604
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: none of this is making sense. But let's hear Thomas

605
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Speaker 2: Randolph in his own words speaking to Killer Jans Well, I've.

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Speaker 5: Always come to Vegas because I'd played twenty one. I'm

607
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: actually really good at it. I make good money. I

608
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: made there's more money than I make working for the

609
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: state full time and teaching school part time. And you

610
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: don't have to pay taxes on it. So I love

611
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 5: the gamble. So I go to Vegas and I go

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 5: to Lake.

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Speaker 2: Pale and more.

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Speaker 5: Sharon had just lost her husband, he died of cancer.

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Speaker 5: I'd lost Francis the year before, earlier that year, and

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Speaker 5: I did on it. I'd be off of it, and

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't respond to any of these, and Sharon keeps

618
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Speaker 5: him mommy. And finally I got an email that says, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you're you don't think I'm attracted or

620
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: you're like, well, either were? That caught my attention. He

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Speaker 5: was very rude about it, so it caught my attention.

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00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 5: I actually knew Sharon better than I knew most women

623
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Speaker 5: in my life because we talked for hours and hours.

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Speaker 5: Should be the last voice I heard at night, and

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: then first thing in the morning she'd call me because

626
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 5: she gets up earlier at the time difference. And when

627
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 5: I met her in person, it's just everything quick.

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Speaker 2: She da, you know, Robert Cristpin, it's really hard for

629
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Speaker 2: me to get in my mind around and we've been

630
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: talking about why would he marry someone that's been married

631
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Speaker 2: so many times and you've had four dead wives. We're

632
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: questioning them we don't need to be questioning the women.

633
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Either he lied to them or he charmed them or

634
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: explained things away, and if they were in love, they

635
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: probably didn't want to know the truth. I'm more curious

636
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: about how he got away with killing so many wives

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Speaker 2: and wasn't stopped before the fourth death.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you, Nancy Is, I'm listening to this statement.

639
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 8: I'm getting visions of Alex Murda's statement dancing through my

640
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 8: head and just listening to the similarities of the alibis

641
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 8: and the explanations of everything that happened two of these deaths.

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00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 8: I'm sure he probably knew. And you know this from

643
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Speaker 8: being a prosecutor and people with medical conditions, there are

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Speaker 8: doctors that will sign the death certificate. So if this

645
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 8: one person really did have cancer and it was maybe

646
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Speaker 8: an advanced stage of cancer, and he gets the phone

647
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Speaker 8: call that this person's past from law enforcement, who's the

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Speaker 8: responding officer to the scene, He's going to go, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know what, I'll sign the death certificate. Same thing

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Speaker 8: with the with the heart surgery patient. We all suspect

651
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Speaker 8: you went in there and probably suffocated her, but got

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Speaker 8: the phone call to the doctor, and the doctor said, yep,

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Speaker 8: I'll sign. She had a history of heart disease. So

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Speaker 8: two of those deaths clearly could have slid under the

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Speaker 8: radar of the doctor stepping in and signing the death certificate,

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00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 8: which takes law enforcement out of it, because once law

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Speaker 8: enforcement knows that the doctor will sign unless there's anything outstanding,

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Speaker 8: that shock in owes the police when they arrive. It's

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Speaker 8: a it's an unattended death, or it's a it's a

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Speaker 8: natural cause death. It's going nowhere. And I found, like the.

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Speaker 2: Case the prophet you a call cult mom Laurie Valo,

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00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: her husband's wife Tammy quote in her sleep and it

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Speaker 2: was chalked off to natural causes until her body was

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Speaker 2: exhumed and it turned out she was suffocated. She died

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Speaker 2: from asphyxia of some sort one thing I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do. We're talking about why would you marry somebody

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Speaker 2: that's got so many wives, much less dead wives. It's

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Speaker 2: not the women's fault. For whatever reason they did marry him,

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Speaker 2: it's his fault. These women were paws to him. And

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Speaker 2: when you hear him talk, he talks about cheating, about

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Speaker 2: having sex with so many women, about gambling, about marrying

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Speaker 2: a woman because she looked like Pharah Fawcet quote without

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Speaker 2: the boobs, cheating, the I r s. Everything he says

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Speaker 2: is bad everything. I don't know that I would call him.

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Speaker 7: That, but I would probably.

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Speaker 2: I would call him a predator when we get right

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Speaker 2: down to it. Four women are dead from their relationship

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Speaker 2: with him. So where is he now? Jen Smith, Chief

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter, Dailymail dot Com.

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Speaker 7: Well, you'll be relieved to know that he is now

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Speaker 7: in prison and he's going to stay there for the

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Speaker 7: rest of his life. The reason that we're talking about

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Speaker 7: this case again, Nancy, is that he was recently convicted

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Speaker 7: for the second time of Shannon's murder and of the

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Speaker 7: murder of Mike Miller, the hitman who he had hired

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Speaker 7: to kill his wife, Sharon. Surprisingly his first conviction, which

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Speaker 7: was returned back in following in twenty seventeen trial, it

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Speaker 7: was overturned. He argued successfully in court that the prior

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Speaker 7: bad act of his previous marriages shouldn't have been allowed

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Speaker 7: to have been included in the trials, and the conviction

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Speaker 7: was overturned. He was then tried again because he is

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Speaker 7: sixty eight. The prosecutors decided that it wasn't worth anyone's

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Speaker 7: time to drag it through a death row appeals process,

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Speaker 7: so they shared him the death penalty. But Thomas Randolph,

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Speaker 7: sixty eight years old, six wife later, he is now

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Speaker 7: going to die in prison.

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Speaker 2: I can only hope, but I can guarantee you one thing,

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Speaker 2: Jenn Smith. He's got a long long list of pinpal

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Speaker 2: lovers and a big stack of male from lonely heart

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Speaker 2: females out there looking for love, and they're probably sending

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Speaker 2: him money right now. So to you, Thomas Randolph brought

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Speaker 2: in hell. Goodbye friend,