1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:21,857 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin sorbo joins us. Now 4 00:00:21,897 --> 00:00:27,857 Speaker 1: you all know him as a filmmaker, an actor, a director, Hercules, 5 00:00:27,897 --> 00:00:31,177 Speaker 1: the Legendary Journeys, which was a great show, and so 6 00:00:31,257 --> 00:00:35,417 Speaker 1: many other movies and projects he's been evolved in. Kevin, really, 7 00:00:35,457 --> 00:00:38,417 Speaker 1: good to see you, man. How are you doing doing great? 8 00:00:38,777 --> 00:00:40,697 Speaker 2: You caught me? Is a busy day for me here. 9 00:00:40,737 --> 00:00:43,257 Speaker 2: I just this is the only hour slot ahead to 10 00:00:43,297 --> 00:00:45,457 Speaker 2: work out, so so I'm so sweaty. I just finished 11 00:00:45,497 --> 00:00:48,057 Speaker 2: working out because you know, you got what's that governor 12 00:00:48,057 --> 00:00:50,897 Speaker 2: from Illinois, JB. Pritz kerk is that Yes, he is 13 00:00:50,977 --> 00:00:53,537 Speaker 2: not fighting back on RFKSE health policies. And I just 14 00:00:53,577 --> 00:00:55,897 Speaker 2: want to look as healthy as JB looks. You know, 15 00:00:55,937 --> 00:00:57,857 Speaker 2: That's what I'm kind of shooting for right now. So 16 00:00:58,537 --> 00:01:00,377 Speaker 2: feel free to post a picture up on that guy. 17 00:01:00,417 --> 00:01:02,097 Speaker 2: What a physical specimen, that dude. 18 00:01:02,617 --> 00:01:05,217 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. I mean, there's so many things 19 00:01:05,217 --> 00:01:07,777 Speaker 1: that he could do, especially as he's talking about running 20 00:01:07,817 --> 00:01:11,137 Speaker 1: for president, that he should do, and and it does 21 00:01:11,337 --> 00:01:13,457 Speaker 1: to be to be at his level of of of 22 00:01:13,497 --> 00:01:16,097 Speaker 1: weight actually really does affect your health. Uh well, you know, 23 00:01:16,137 --> 00:01:17,857 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about the dog stuff, 24 00:01:17,857 --> 00:01:20,017 Speaker 1: but let me start actually with the RFK junior stuff. 25 00:01:20,057 --> 00:01:23,297 Speaker 1: What what because you're into MAHA make America healthy again? 26 00:01:23,737 --> 00:01:24,417 Speaker 2: What? Yeah? 27 00:01:24,697 --> 00:01:26,577 Speaker 1: What? What's top of the agenda as far as you're 28 00:01:26,617 --> 00:01:28,337 Speaker 1: concerned for RFK to get going with? 29 00:01:30,977 --> 00:01:34,577 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. He his his people, and then 30 00:01:34,617 --> 00:01:36,337 Speaker 2: he called me later when he was he was heading 31 00:01:36,377 --> 00:01:37,657 Speaker 2: to run for president and he asked me if I 32 00:01:37,657 --> 00:01:39,777 Speaker 2: would support him because we've met a couple of times 33 00:01:39,817 --> 00:01:42,297 Speaker 2: through the years at charity events, at skiing events and things, 34 00:01:42,297 --> 00:01:45,217 Speaker 2: and he's he knows ry stand politically. He's always been 35 00:01:45,257 --> 00:01:47,577 Speaker 2: a very cool guy to me, I mean like always, 36 00:01:48,137 --> 00:01:50,577 Speaker 2: And so I told him, I said, well, you know, 37 00:01:50,817 --> 00:01:52,737 Speaker 2: you're still a little too far left for me, but 38 00:01:53,137 --> 00:01:55,897 Speaker 2: I love some of the stuff you're doing. And because 39 00:01:55,937 --> 00:01:58,297 Speaker 2: you know, every ever since COVID, when government reared its 40 00:01:58,377 --> 00:02:00,617 Speaker 2: ugly head and showed how much he loved using fear 41 00:02:00,657 --> 00:02:03,937 Speaker 2: as a weapon against it's uh, it's people, and I 42 00:02:04,297 --> 00:02:06,697 Speaker 2: fought back. I got canceled as like most other people did. 43 00:02:06,777 --> 00:02:09,337 Speaker 2: I mean, Zuckerberg and his minions took me down from 44 00:02:09,337 --> 00:02:11,977 Speaker 2: posting that truth about all these things. And I got 45 00:02:12,017 --> 00:02:14,097 Speaker 2: two really good doctor friends of mine. I never will 46 00:02:14,137 --> 00:02:15,897 Speaker 2: name them, but they told me the whole time that 47 00:02:16,337 --> 00:02:20,017 Speaker 2: I said, six feet is ridiculous. Yes, masks don't work, Yes, 48 00:02:20,097 --> 00:02:22,137 Speaker 2: all these things. So I'm posting it because I know 49 00:02:22,217 --> 00:02:25,337 Speaker 2: doctors agreed with me. But that's what got me pulled 50 00:02:25,377 --> 00:02:28,457 Speaker 2: out of Facebook. But I got to throw the thing 51 00:02:28,497 --> 00:02:30,897 Speaker 2: I think that got me almost pulled out of Twitter 52 00:02:30,977 --> 00:02:33,377 Speaker 2: before Musk bought it. I said, if you want to 53 00:02:33,377 --> 00:02:35,857 Speaker 2: go rid of COVID, tell the Clinton's COVID's got something 54 00:02:35,857 --> 00:02:39,377 Speaker 2: on him. It'll be the first virus to mysteriously commit suicide. 55 00:02:39,577 --> 00:02:42,497 Speaker 1: COVID's gonna hang itself in a cell with no cameras 56 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:43,137 Speaker 1: on suddenly. 57 00:02:43,257 --> 00:02:45,137 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it will, of course it will. No. 58 00:02:45,217 --> 00:02:46,657 Speaker 2: But I love what he's doing. I love the fact 59 00:02:46,657 --> 00:02:48,897 Speaker 2: that he's out there and he's brave about doing he's 60 00:02:48,897 --> 00:02:50,817 Speaker 2: speaking the truth about it, and I love the fact 61 00:02:50,817 --> 00:02:52,657 Speaker 2: that he mixed it. You're throwing musk in that mix, 62 00:02:53,137 --> 00:02:55,737 Speaker 2: and I just think it's fantastic. That was showing how 63 00:02:55,817 --> 00:02:58,377 Speaker 2: much waste is out there. We've all known that. We've 64 00:02:58,417 --> 00:03:01,097 Speaker 2: all known the government is just a big fat belly 65 00:03:01,177 --> 00:03:05,377 Speaker 2: pig that just throws money around, you know, fifty million 66 00:03:05,417 --> 00:03:08,017 Speaker 2: dollars for condom, condoms and gods or whatever it was. 67 00:03:08,057 --> 00:03:09,977 Speaker 2: I mean, this is just so stupid to me that 68 00:03:10,257 --> 00:03:12,337 Speaker 2: doing this and there's not a bigger more people aren't 69 00:03:12,377 --> 00:03:15,657 Speaker 2: upset about it. You know, even even you know, even shouldn't. 70 00:03:15,697 --> 00:03:17,817 Speaker 1: Should we all should we all be able to agree 71 00:03:17,897 --> 00:03:21,417 Speaker 1: Kevin that that money going to scammers from the federal 72 00:03:21,457 --> 00:03:24,537 Speaker 1: government or dead people or whatever. That's just not good, right, 73 00:03:24,577 --> 00:03:27,057 Speaker 1: There's there's no good to be achieved from this, So 74 00:03:27,257 --> 00:03:30,657 Speaker 1: stopping it would be a good thing. But because Elon 75 00:03:30,817 --> 00:03:33,897 Speaker 1: is doing it on behalf of Trump, now it's not 76 00:03:34,017 --> 00:03:36,337 Speaker 1: a good thing somehow. That that's that's weird. 77 00:03:37,177 --> 00:03:40,977 Speaker 2: You remember, prior to twenty fifteen, everybody wanted Trump on 78 00:03:41,017 --> 00:03:43,697 Speaker 2: the talk shows, you know, from Oprah to whoever come 79 00:03:43,737 --> 00:03:46,177 Speaker 2: on my talk show? Do do a cameo in my movie. 80 00:03:46,377 --> 00:03:48,417 Speaker 2: The minute he said I'm gonna I'm on the you know, 81 00:03:48,457 --> 00:03:51,377 Speaker 2: we're gonna run for a Republican side, they just went nuts. 82 00:03:51,377 --> 00:03:54,057 Speaker 2: And it's just it's amazing to me the anger that 83 00:03:54,097 --> 00:03:55,817 Speaker 2: the people have when they're supposed to be the Party 84 00:03:55,817 --> 00:03:58,337 Speaker 2: of love. You know, remember the sixties when the whole 85 00:03:58,417 --> 00:04:00,657 Speaker 2: hippie boom was going on and free love and the 86 00:04:01,297 --> 00:04:03,217 Speaker 2: rock and roll was exploding, and the whole thing was 87 00:04:03,217 --> 00:04:05,737 Speaker 2: don't trust a man, don't trust a man. And the 88 00:04:05,777 --> 00:04:08,137 Speaker 2: first thing that in COVID hit everybody and left said 89 00:04:08,337 --> 00:04:10,697 Speaker 2: trust a man, trust the government. And it's a laughs 90 00:04:10,737 --> 00:04:12,777 Speaker 2: maat then and they yell at me to you never 91 00:04:12,857 --> 00:04:15,537 Speaker 2: question the science, Well, what do you think science is? 92 00:04:15,977 --> 00:04:18,937 Speaker 2: Science is questioning. That's what it's all about. So the 93 00:04:18,977 --> 00:04:21,017 Speaker 2: insanity of what they were doing and what the hell 94 00:04:21,057 --> 00:04:24,217 Speaker 2: the plane and the hypocrisy that they blatantly show every 95 00:04:24,257 --> 00:04:26,577 Speaker 2: bloody day is just amazing to me. 96 00:04:27,417 --> 00:04:32,017 Speaker 1: It's it's craziness. And I will say one thing about 97 00:04:32,097 --> 00:04:35,257 Speaker 1: about Trump, it's this isn't a complaint, but it has 98 00:04:35,297 --> 00:04:38,057 Speaker 1: made things a little bit harder. This administration is doing 99 00:04:38,177 --> 00:04:40,857 Speaker 1: so much so fast that to try to cover it 100 00:04:40,937 --> 00:04:43,337 Speaker 1: day to day as I do for three hours, we 101 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:46,097 Speaker 1: you know, I could have done a whole show today 102 00:04:46,177 --> 00:04:48,977 Speaker 1: just on what he's doing with the border, immigration enforcement 103 00:04:49,217 --> 00:04:51,377 Speaker 1: and the EPA. But he's also trying to end the 104 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:55,137 Speaker 1: rush of Ukraine war. He's also getting the tariffs going 105 00:04:55,137 --> 00:04:57,577 Speaker 1: and trying to get more cooperation from Canada and Mexican. 106 00:04:57,617 --> 00:05:00,697 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's all cylinders. It's it's pretty amazing 107 00:05:00,737 --> 00:05:01,137 Speaker 1: to watch. 108 00:05:02,017 --> 00:05:04,737 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, can Canada really win this battle? Can Mexico 109 00:05:04,817 --> 00:05:08,017 Speaker 2: really win? I mean, they both need America more than 110 00:05:08,057 --> 00:05:10,017 Speaker 2: we need them. And I know they're they'll get hate 111 00:05:10,337 --> 00:05:12,257 Speaker 2: that because I look, I live in Vancouver five years 112 00:05:12,297 --> 00:05:14,657 Speaker 2: some of the series shut movies up there. I love 113 00:05:14,657 --> 00:05:16,377 Speaker 2: it up there. It's a beautiful country. The people I've 114 00:05:16,377 --> 00:05:19,817 Speaker 2: worked with are fantastic. But the reality is both our 115 00:05:19,857 --> 00:05:22,057 Speaker 2: countries were as founded around the same time in the 116 00:05:22,137 --> 00:05:25,137 Speaker 2: late seventeen hundreds. We're three hundred and forty million, they're 117 00:05:25,217 --> 00:05:27,537 Speaker 2: thirty million. If it was so perfect, their government was 118 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:29,937 Speaker 2: so amazing, and the Canadian dream was as big as 119 00:05:29,937 --> 00:05:33,137 Speaker 2: American dream. How come that country hasn't hasn't grown. There's 120 00:05:33,177 --> 00:05:35,897 Speaker 2: just not you know, they're dwarf compared to our population. 121 00:05:36,137 --> 00:05:38,657 Speaker 2: And everybody wants to leave their country. Everybody wants to 122 00:05:38,657 --> 00:05:40,777 Speaker 2: come to America. There's a reason for that. And now 123 00:05:40,777 --> 00:05:43,777 Speaker 2: we got all these people that are in America and 124 00:05:43,817 --> 00:05:46,937 Speaker 2: the ones that move here want to turn us into 125 00:05:47,137 --> 00:05:49,257 Speaker 2: the countries they left, or turn us into a third 126 00:05:49,257 --> 00:05:50,977 Speaker 2: world or socialist country. It's amazing. 127 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:53,537 Speaker 1: What do you think Trump? I don't know if you've 128 00:05:53,537 --> 00:05:55,937 Speaker 1: seen recently, he's brought it up a bunch of times 129 00:05:56,377 --> 00:06:00,657 Speaker 1: and very clearly, like he says Canada fifty first state 130 00:06:00,817 --> 00:06:04,017 Speaker 1: in some variation of this. Is he just poking them 131 00:06:04,017 --> 00:06:06,577 Speaker 1: and being Trump? Or is there more to it than that. 132 00:06:07,217 --> 00:06:09,937 Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's poking them. It's kind of I would 133 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:13,057 Speaker 2: never let that happen anyway. I just I think it's funny. 134 00:06:13,097 --> 00:06:14,897 Speaker 2: I get a kick out of it. I don't think 135 00:06:14,937 --> 00:06:17,657 Speaker 2: I don't believe it for a minute, and it really 136 00:06:17,777 --> 00:06:21,817 Speaker 2: won't happen, but it's it is fun The guy is 137 00:06:21,857 --> 00:06:23,937 Speaker 2: actually very funny guy. I've known him for twenty years. 138 00:06:24,177 --> 00:06:25,817 Speaker 2: When I golfed him the first time back in two 139 00:06:25,817 --> 00:06:28,577 Speaker 2: thousand and five at lunch, I told him, I said, 140 00:06:28,577 --> 00:06:30,737 Speaker 2: this is two thousand and five. I said, you know what, 141 00:06:30,817 --> 00:06:33,097 Speaker 2: I want a businessman to run America. We are a 142 00:06:33,137 --> 00:06:36,737 Speaker 2: business not a politician that's been in office for thirty 143 00:06:36,777 --> 00:06:38,857 Speaker 2: forty years. And he said, yeah, that'd be a good idea, 144 00:06:38,937 --> 00:06:40,617 Speaker 2: not knowing ten years later he was gonna throw his 145 00:06:40,617 --> 00:06:41,137 Speaker 2: hat in the ring. 146 00:06:41,857 --> 00:06:44,737 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that is one. Actually, I would say there 147 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,777 Speaker 1: are two things about Trump that are not nearly as 148 00:06:48,897 --> 00:06:52,697 Speaker 1: widely known as as are known by the people that 149 00:06:52,737 --> 00:06:57,377 Speaker 1: have actually spent time with him. He's a really warm, 150 00:06:57,537 --> 00:06:59,497 Speaker 1: nice guy. You know. You see this sort of the 151 00:06:59,497 --> 00:07:02,577 Speaker 1: bravado and the you know, the bragadocio and everything on TV, 152 00:07:02,697 --> 00:07:05,457 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know there's there's sure like he's a 153 00:07:05,577 --> 00:07:08,657 Speaker 1: he's an entertainer, he's a presenter, all that, but he's 154 00:07:08,697 --> 00:07:10,777 Speaker 1: actually a really you know, I mean I've met him 155 00:07:11,297 --> 00:07:15,217 Speaker 1: my wife and know with different friends of mine. He 156 00:07:15,577 --> 00:07:18,897 Speaker 1: is really kind to people in person, but also is 157 00:07:19,137 --> 00:07:22,097 Speaker 1: really funny, like constantly says funny things. 158 00:07:22,217 --> 00:07:25,537 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very sarcastic and it's funny. You know, when 159 00:07:25,577 --> 00:07:27,497 Speaker 2: you golf with the guy, he'll get out of his 160 00:07:27,537 --> 00:07:29,737 Speaker 2: car to you go fast. And the Secret Service. We've 161 00:07:29,737 --> 00:07:31,857 Speaker 2: got six guys with us all the time in their 162 00:07:31,857 --> 00:07:33,617 Speaker 2: own golf carts that like the two guys that go 163 00:07:33,697 --> 00:07:35,697 Speaker 2: ahead to check out. You know, they are the ones 164 00:07:35,697 --> 00:07:37,937 Speaker 2: that found the gun coming through the fence there on 165 00:07:38,017 --> 00:07:40,257 Speaker 2: that front nine a Trump International, but they also are 166 00:07:40,297 --> 00:07:42,057 Speaker 2: there to make sure the people in front know he's 167 00:07:42,057 --> 00:07:43,937 Speaker 2: coming through. You gotta let him play through. Everyone that 168 00:07:43,977 --> 00:07:46,137 Speaker 2: you play through he drives up to them, gets out 169 00:07:46,177 --> 00:07:48,537 Speaker 2: of the cart, shakes everybody's hands, says thanks for being here. 170 00:07:48,657 --> 00:07:50,617 Speaker 2: Hope to see inside for lunch. Do you think other 171 00:07:50,657 --> 00:07:52,937 Speaker 2: presidents take the tend to do that. I don't think so. 172 00:07:53,177 --> 00:07:56,017 Speaker 2: And this is pretty amazing. And he's always been to me, 173 00:07:56,057 --> 00:07:58,177 Speaker 2: he's always been a pretty cool guy. I saw him 174 00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:01,297 Speaker 2: the Sunday before he did speak and speak in front 175 00:08:01,337 --> 00:08:03,297 Speaker 2: of Congress when the Democrats acted like a bunch of 176 00:08:03,377 --> 00:08:07,857 Speaker 2: seventh grade mean girls, little babies. He saw me. He's 177 00:08:07,897 --> 00:08:10,417 Speaker 2: walking on the little cat walk up there, he points 178 00:08:10,417 --> 00:08:12,177 Speaker 2: out him. He has me come over there, shakes my hand. 179 00:08:12,417 --> 00:08:14,577 Speaker 2: I said, you remember my wife Sam. He goes, of course, 180 00:08:14,977 --> 00:08:16,577 Speaker 2: he looks here and he says, you know something, Sam, 181 00:08:16,737 --> 00:08:18,977 Speaker 2: this guy is great, but you're better than he is. 182 00:08:19,097 --> 00:08:20,697 Speaker 2: So I thought that was pretty funny. He was just 183 00:08:20,817 --> 00:08:22,617 Speaker 2: giving us a hard time, but he takes the time 184 00:08:22,617 --> 00:08:23,457 Speaker 2: to do stuff like that. 185 00:08:23,617 --> 00:08:26,097 Speaker 1: You know the uh they all had fun with it, 186 00:08:26,137 --> 00:08:28,417 Speaker 1: So I think I think it's it's something that everyone 187 00:08:28,457 --> 00:08:30,817 Speaker 1: can kind of laugh about. You know this. There's the 188 00:08:30,857 --> 00:08:33,097 Speaker 1: All In podcast and one of the guys is Ta 189 00:08:33,217 --> 00:08:36,777 Speaker 1: math Uh who has you know what I'm talking about? 190 00:08:36,777 --> 00:08:38,577 Speaker 1: The all David Sachs. You know these guys have a 191 00:08:38,577 --> 00:08:40,817 Speaker 1: big podcast, yep. But it was funny. They talked about 192 00:08:40,857 --> 00:08:42,457 Speaker 1: it on their show and it kind of went viral. 193 00:08:42,497 --> 00:08:45,577 Speaker 1: His little clip that when Trump met Tremath and his wife. 194 00:08:46,217 --> 00:08:48,817 Speaker 1: This is his second wife, who's like a like a 195 00:08:48,817 --> 00:08:52,257 Speaker 1: beautiful Italian model, you know, like you know, twenty eight 196 00:08:52,337 --> 00:08:55,337 Speaker 1: years old or something. And Trump Trump meets ta Math, 197 00:08:55,697 --> 00:08:58,057 Speaker 1: who you know, is a very smart guy, but he's 198 00:08:58,057 --> 00:08:59,737 Speaker 1: not about to win, Like he's not about to be 199 00:08:59,857 --> 00:09:01,737 Speaker 1: cast as Hercules. I'll just put it that way. He's 200 00:09:01,737 --> 00:09:04,937 Speaker 1: not about to be Hercules. And Trump pulls him aside 201 00:09:04,937 --> 00:09:07,577 Speaker 1: and goes, you must be really rich. He needs his way, 202 00:09:09,657 --> 00:09:11,937 Speaker 1: which I this thing is very funny, Very Trump, you know, 203 00:09:12,097 --> 00:09:14,537 Speaker 1: taken into treum Ath thought it was very funny. You know, 204 00:09:14,577 --> 00:09:16,937 Speaker 1: everyone had kind of a laugh about it. But that's 205 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,697 Speaker 1: that's the guy you get with Donald Trump. I saw 206 00:09:19,737 --> 00:09:23,617 Speaker 1: something really interesting, which is a discussion. I wanted to. 207 00:09:23,657 --> 00:09:25,457 Speaker 1: I want to get your perspective on this because you 208 00:09:25,457 --> 00:09:28,657 Speaker 1: you've you're one of the rare ones who has been 209 00:09:29,457 --> 00:09:33,137 Speaker 1: involved in mass entertainment in a in a very successful way. 210 00:09:33,137 --> 00:09:36,737 Speaker 1: Obviously you know Hercules. We've talked about before, Massive and syndication, 211 00:09:36,897 --> 00:09:38,417 Speaker 1: Massive show. I used to watch it when I was 212 00:09:38,417 --> 00:09:41,377 Speaker 1: a kid or you know, teena. I forget how old 213 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:43,617 Speaker 1: I was, but I used to watch the show. And 214 00:09:43,617 --> 00:09:46,817 Speaker 1: and you've also done more independent projects and have also 215 00:09:46,897 --> 00:09:48,937 Speaker 1: had success in the independent projects, right, And not a 216 00:09:48,977 --> 00:09:52,177 Speaker 1: lot of people that have really played in both sides 217 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:54,937 Speaker 1: of that. You know, maybe they did something on the 218 00:09:54,977 --> 00:09:57,137 Speaker 1: on the big sort of mass entertainment side, but they 219 00:09:57,177 --> 00:10:00,937 Speaker 1: haven't done their on their independent stuff successfully. There was 220 00:10:00,937 --> 00:10:03,497 Speaker 1: a conversation about in Holly about how in Hollywood and 221 00:10:03,497 --> 00:10:06,457 Speaker 1: people friends of mine like Jesse Kelly and Matt Walsh 222 00:10:06,457 --> 00:10:09,497 Speaker 1: over Daily Wire, We're having this exchange on Twitter about 223 00:10:09,497 --> 00:10:12,377 Speaker 1: how anyone who says that it's okay that Hollywood's out 224 00:10:12,377 --> 00:10:16,977 Speaker 1: of ideas is just being absurd because there's so many 225 00:10:16,977 --> 00:10:19,097 Speaker 1: and they started ratting things off. And I've brought this 226 00:10:19,177 --> 00:10:23,217 Speaker 1: up on my own show before too, Like the Cortes 227 00:10:23,337 --> 00:10:26,217 Speaker 1: Conquest of Mexico could be the most amazing mini series 228 00:10:26,297 --> 00:10:28,337 Speaker 1: anybody's ever It's one of the most incredible stories in 229 00:10:28,377 --> 00:10:31,097 Speaker 1: all history. No one's been you know, Magellan's journey. There 230 00:10:31,137 --> 00:10:33,257 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff about the Age of Exploration, 231 00:10:33,337 --> 00:10:35,457 Speaker 1: for example. But there's so many stories we're founding, so 232 00:10:35,457 --> 00:10:38,817 Speaker 1: many Why can't this stuff get made still? Or can 233 00:10:38,897 --> 00:10:41,097 Speaker 1: it get made? Do we need Elon to write a 234 00:10:41,177 --> 00:10:43,177 Speaker 1: billion dollar check for there to be a studio that 235 00:10:43,217 --> 00:10:47,617 Speaker 1: can actually do great entertainment? Again, Mel Gibson's talking about Malta. 236 00:10:47,657 --> 00:10:49,257 Speaker 1: We'll get to that a second. But what do you 237 00:10:49,257 --> 00:10:49,697 Speaker 1: make of this? 238 00:10:51,017 --> 00:10:54,697 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I think in the last fifteen 239 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:58,497 Speaker 2: to twenty years, they've been a little more shy about 240 00:10:58,537 --> 00:11:01,337 Speaker 2: coming more original ideas because they've had success with these 241 00:11:01,337 --> 00:11:04,297 Speaker 2: Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And I'm gonna 242 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:06,057 Speaker 2: have to say, Hercules kick that whole thing off. We 243 00:11:06,097 --> 00:11:08,457 Speaker 2: shot from ninety three to two thousand. We were the 244 00:11:08,497 --> 00:11:10,977 Speaker 2: first really actions stuff on TV with a couple spinoffs, 245 00:11:11,017 --> 00:11:14,537 Speaker 2: and everybody try to copy us from Conan and Robinhood 246 00:11:14,577 --> 00:11:17,017 Speaker 2: and Tarzan and Sende and all that stuff, and none 247 00:11:17,057 --> 00:11:19,457 Speaker 2: of those things were going at that time. But once 248 00:11:19,497 --> 00:11:22,817 Speaker 2: they kicked off, they just made variations of it. You know, 249 00:11:22,857 --> 00:11:25,457 Speaker 2: they'll do They'll do part two, part three, part four, 250 00:11:25,537 --> 00:11:27,377 Speaker 2: part five of the same thing over and over again 251 00:11:27,457 --> 00:11:30,217 Speaker 2: because they make two billion dollars. But even I'm getting 252 00:11:30,257 --> 00:11:32,577 Speaker 2: tired of watching these things because most of these action 253 00:11:32,737 --> 00:11:35,937 Speaker 2: movies are about seventy percent you know, watching a video game. 254 00:11:35,977 --> 00:11:38,497 Speaker 1: It's all ga way too much GI. 255 00:11:38,897 --> 00:11:41,417 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of go, Okay, here we go again. 256 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:43,257 Speaker 2: So I think it's starting to dieve a little bit. 257 00:11:43,377 --> 00:11:45,657 Speaker 2: But I think they're just they keep that cash cow 258 00:11:45,737 --> 00:11:48,257 Speaker 2: going if it's working. I think the independent world, like 259 00:11:48,297 --> 00:11:50,577 Speaker 2: where I'm in with my Sorbo Studios. Please go to 260 00:11:50,577 --> 00:11:54,017 Speaker 2: sorbostudios dot com. We do independent movies, and a lot 261 00:11:54,057 --> 00:11:56,937 Speaker 2: more independent production companies are also out there, and they're 262 00:11:57,017 --> 00:11:59,217 Speaker 2: they're a little more original with their ideas and the 263 00:11:59,257 --> 00:12:01,417 Speaker 2: things they want to put out there. I'm attracted to 264 00:12:01,697 --> 00:12:03,377 Speaker 2: true life stories. That's kind of what I do. I've 265 00:12:03,417 --> 00:12:05,817 Speaker 2: got four new movies coming up this here in three documentaries, 266 00:12:05,817 --> 00:12:08,017 Speaker 2: so I've been blessed to stay busy. I'm gonna direct 267 00:12:08,017 --> 00:12:09,977 Speaker 2: two more movies this year, and I'm taking off for 268 00:12:10,097 --> 00:12:12,457 Speaker 2: India to shoot an action movie there later in June. 269 00:12:12,497 --> 00:12:15,577 Speaker 2: So you know, thank god, I'm still busy because Hollywood 270 00:12:15,697 --> 00:12:17,897 Speaker 2: kicked me out eleven years ago because he can't be 271 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:19,977 Speaker 2: a conservative and a Christian in Hollywood. That's a really 272 00:12:20,017 --> 00:12:22,897 Speaker 2: bad thing. And it's it's just it's just where they're 273 00:12:23,017 --> 00:12:25,417 Speaker 2: they're like little children. I think the gays are clearly 274 00:12:25,457 --> 00:12:27,617 Speaker 2: out of the closet in Hollywood. It's the it's the 275 00:12:27,657 --> 00:12:29,897 Speaker 2: conservatives there in the closet now, and they got to 276 00:12:29,937 --> 00:12:32,297 Speaker 2: wake up and stop being afraid. 277 00:12:32,337 --> 00:12:34,017 Speaker 1: Do you know Mel at all? Mel Gibson, do you 278 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:37,537 Speaker 1: guys have any contact together, because because because he has talked, 279 00:12:37,657 --> 00:12:39,417 Speaker 1: this has been a dream of mine for I've been 280 00:12:39,417 --> 00:12:41,737 Speaker 1: so you got to tell him Buck Sexton will will 281 00:12:41,737 --> 00:12:44,257 Speaker 1: write and consult for free on his Malta project. I've 282 00:12:44,257 --> 00:12:47,257 Speaker 1: been obsessed with the Siege of Malta for like decades. 283 00:12:47,297 --> 00:12:49,017 Speaker 1: I have multiple books about it. I love and I've 284 00:12:49,057 --> 00:12:52,537 Speaker 1: always said this could be an incredible movie because if 285 00:12:52,537 --> 00:12:55,097 Speaker 1: you put in the proper context, it really was in 286 00:12:55,177 --> 00:12:56,977 Speaker 1: sort of the same way that they had three hundred, 287 00:12:57,017 --> 00:12:59,897 Speaker 1: which is about the pass at Thermopylae and late Leonidas, 288 00:12:59,937 --> 00:13:04,977 Speaker 1: the Spartans. It really was a Western civilization, uh live 289 00:13:05,057 --> 00:13:07,377 Speaker 1: or die moment, you could argue, because if they had 290 00:13:07,377 --> 00:13:09,057 Speaker 1: taken Malta, they would have used it as a stage 291 00:13:09,097 --> 00:13:12,537 Speaker 1: in ground for the invasion of Italy proper. And this 292 00:13:12,617 --> 00:13:14,697 Speaker 1: was the Ottoman Empire, the most powerful empire in the 293 00:13:14,737 --> 00:13:18,097 Speaker 1: world at the time. And Mel is now is I've 294 00:13:18,137 --> 00:13:20,857 Speaker 1: heard he's making the or he's in the process of 295 00:13:20,937 --> 00:13:23,417 Speaker 1: trying to get a Malta series made. Have you heard 296 00:13:23,457 --> 00:13:25,937 Speaker 1: anything about that? And if you haven't, I just explained 297 00:13:25,937 --> 00:13:28,897 Speaker 1: to me. To make that's like a two hundred million 298 00:13:28,897 --> 00:13:31,177 Speaker 1: dollar movie or maybe a two hundred million dollar you know, 299 00:13:31,257 --> 00:13:34,937 Speaker 1: limited series five or ten episodes. How do we get that? 300 00:13:35,297 --> 00:13:36,737 Speaker 1: How do we get that made? 301 00:13:36,937 --> 00:13:39,417 Speaker 2: Well? Once again, I find him at Elon Musk for 302 00:13:39,497 --> 00:13:42,217 Speaker 2: the first time to two weeks ago, and I think 303 00:13:42,257 --> 00:13:44,097 Speaker 2: it's chanced to talk to that long, but I would 304 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:46,857 Speaker 2: you know, I would like a ten million dollar checking 305 00:13:46,897 --> 00:13:48,457 Speaker 2: out to make movies and I'll get him, get him 306 00:13:48,497 --> 00:13:50,777 Speaker 2: his money back. I've never lost money from my investors, 307 00:13:50,777 --> 00:13:53,217 Speaker 2: so we do movies in a three million range. And 308 00:13:53,817 --> 00:13:55,617 Speaker 2: Mel told me I talked to him about an hour 309 00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:58,177 Speaker 2: and a half not too long ago. He gave me 310 00:13:58,217 --> 00:14:00,897 Speaker 2: the whole idea of they've been him and his brother 311 00:14:00,937 --> 00:14:03,497 Speaker 2: have been writing the sequel to the Passion for the 312 00:14:03,537 --> 00:14:05,777 Speaker 2: last five years really, and they are going to make 313 00:14:05,817 --> 00:14:07,897 Speaker 2: that one as well. And he explained that movie to 314 00:14:07,937 --> 00:14:09,537 Speaker 2: me and I said, Mal, that's one hundred million dollar 315 00:14:09,577 --> 00:14:12,017 Speaker 2: movies to two hundred million dollar movie, just like the 316 00:14:12,057 --> 00:14:14,977 Speaker 2: number you mentioned from Multa. I shot a movie in Malta, 317 00:14:15,057 --> 00:14:17,737 Speaker 2: and that that that little place in the middle of 318 00:14:17,777 --> 00:14:23,057 Speaker 2: Mediterranean has gone through just attack after attack, centuries after centuries, 319 00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:26,417 Speaker 2: and uh, it's still there. In the history there, it's unbelievable. 320 00:14:26,417 --> 00:14:28,857 Speaker 2: I mean there's rooms that are back nine thousand years. 321 00:14:29,297 --> 00:14:32,217 Speaker 2: So I know that he's he's looking at that as well. 322 00:14:32,297 --> 00:14:34,977 Speaker 2: So he's got a lot juggling in the air right now. 323 00:14:34,977 --> 00:14:37,137 Speaker 2: And unfortunately the guy lost his home in the Folcades 324 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:40,177 Speaker 2: fire as well, right, so you know, he's got a 325 00:14:40,217 --> 00:14:41,177 Speaker 2: lot of stuff on his brain. 326 00:14:41,577 --> 00:14:43,697 Speaker 1: I'm when it comes to his body of work. I mean, 327 00:14:43,737 --> 00:14:48,457 Speaker 1: Braveheart is still my probably my favorite movie of all time. Uh, 328 00:14:48,497 --> 00:14:50,297 Speaker 1: and you know, I just absolutely loved that. I saw 329 00:14:50,337 --> 00:14:51,617 Speaker 1: when I was in the eighth grade and I've seen 330 00:14:51,617 --> 00:14:54,417 Speaker 1: it probably one hundred times since then. So he's done. 331 00:14:54,457 --> 00:14:57,617 Speaker 1: He's done some incredible stuff. I actually think Apocalypto, for 332 00:14:57,737 --> 00:15:00,857 Speaker 1: what it is is an under an underrated film. It's 333 00:15:00,857 --> 00:15:03,737 Speaker 1: pretty amazing, actually, you know what he did with that, 334 00:15:03,857 --> 00:15:04,777 Speaker 1: and to have it all in. 335 00:15:04,697 --> 00:15:08,297 Speaker 2: The it was almost it was almost a documentary, yes, yes, 336 00:15:08,417 --> 00:15:09,497 Speaker 2: you know, and that the kind of. 337 00:15:09,417 --> 00:15:11,417 Speaker 1: Feel to fact. So it was in in the native 338 00:15:11,457 --> 00:15:13,657 Speaker 1: language whatever, you know, whatever it was of the of 339 00:15:13,697 --> 00:15:15,457 Speaker 1: the you know, the the Aztecs or the Mayas or 340 00:15:15,457 --> 00:15:18,257 Speaker 1: wherever it was now I forget, but yeah, I just 341 00:15:18,537 --> 00:15:20,937 Speaker 1: it feels like there's been a change. Are are you? 342 00:15:21,617 --> 00:15:25,697 Speaker 1: Are you hearing and seeing the change in sentiment from 343 00:15:25,937 --> 00:15:29,777 Speaker 1: corporate America in this new era of of make of 344 00:15:29,817 --> 00:15:31,977 Speaker 1: the golden age of America Trump two point zero, Like, 345 00:15:32,017 --> 00:15:35,857 Speaker 1: there's Jeff Bezos is now at the was at the inauguration, 346 00:15:36,137 --> 00:15:39,737 Speaker 1: and and you know, suddenly The Apprentice is showing up 347 00:15:39,817 --> 00:15:44,137 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Like what could you get a meeting now 348 00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:47,617 Speaker 1: with Bezos or rather with whoever runs you know, Amazon 349 00:15:48,017 --> 00:15:51,137 Speaker 1: Studios to make to make a series, you know, with 350 00:15:51,137 --> 00:15:53,937 Speaker 1: with a fifty to one hundred million dollar budget or 351 00:15:53,977 --> 00:15:55,177 Speaker 1: do you think that that's coming? 352 00:15:56,337 --> 00:15:58,337 Speaker 2: Right? I think it's coming and you can. I mean, look, 353 00:15:59,497 --> 00:16:01,977 Speaker 2: you know Zuckerberg the same way. You know, they did 354 00:16:01,977 --> 00:16:04,497 Speaker 2: a one one eighty flip when Trump got in office. 355 00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:06,097 Speaker 2: I don't know if he didn't get in office, I 356 00:16:06,097 --> 00:16:07,857 Speaker 2: don't think they'd be doing that. I think it's all 357 00:16:08,057 --> 00:16:11,297 Speaker 2: once again, the the the the the the exposure of 358 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:14,017 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of these people. But I look at it 359 00:16:14,057 --> 00:16:16,337 Speaker 2: as a positive thing anyway, because Trump sending know Trump 360 00:16:16,377 --> 00:16:20,017 Speaker 2: effect is real, and these guys. I would love to 361 00:16:20,017 --> 00:16:21,777 Speaker 2: have meetings with those guys. Like I said, I don't 362 00:16:21,897 --> 00:16:23,897 Speaker 2: I don't need a two hundred million dollars give it 363 00:16:23,937 --> 00:16:25,977 Speaker 2: to give it a guy like you know, Mel, Like 364 00:16:26,017 --> 00:16:28,337 Speaker 2: I said, I like the new movies that our budgets 365 00:16:28,377 --> 00:16:30,377 Speaker 2: and are managemble, makes sense and can get their money 366 00:16:30,377 --> 00:16:31,937 Speaker 2: back from my investors. That's the kind of things that 367 00:16:31,977 --> 00:16:34,417 Speaker 2: I'm doing. But Mel's Mel still got the powers. I 368 00:16:34,497 --> 00:16:36,697 Speaker 2: got the tops, and he's gonna jump on board and 369 00:16:36,697 --> 00:16:38,337 Speaker 2: do what he wants. But I know, I know he's 370 00:16:38,337 --> 00:16:40,177 Speaker 2: gonna do the sequel of Passion for one hundred percent. 371 00:16:40,217 --> 00:16:41,497 Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to start that for 372 00:16:41,537 --> 00:16:42,217 Speaker 2: another year or so. 373 00:16:42,777 --> 00:16:44,537 Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's it. That's a I mean, I remember 374 00:16:44,617 --> 00:16:47,537 Speaker 1: I saw that that's powerful and made it. It was tough, 375 00:16:47,817 --> 00:16:50,577 Speaker 1: made a tremendous amount of money too, which was interesting 376 00:16:50,617 --> 00:16:53,297 Speaker 1: because at the time all the critics hated it, you know, 377 00:16:53,337 --> 00:16:55,737 Speaker 1: but it made like eight hundred million dollars or something. 378 00:16:56,577 --> 00:16:59,337 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting. You know, in the Jewish community, 379 00:16:59,377 --> 00:17:01,257 Speaker 2: they don't like that that the Pharisees that they had 380 00:17:01,257 --> 00:17:04,097 Speaker 2: anything to do with Jesus and Jesus getting crucified. Well, 381 00:17:04,457 --> 00:17:07,017 Speaker 2: the Pharisees are were Jewish, and they had something to 382 00:17:07,017 --> 00:17:08,417 Speaker 2: do with it. They did not like the man they 383 00:17:08,457 --> 00:17:12,697 Speaker 2: were threatened by Jesus. So I think they're walking on water. 384 00:17:12,777 --> 00:17:15,177 Speaker 2: I think most of the Jewish community in Hollywood they 385 00:17:15,217 --> 00:17:17,417 Speaker 2: play the anti semi card pretty much when it just 386 00:17:17,457 --> 00:17:20,137 Speaker 2: serves their purpose. I mean, they don't otherwise they did. 387 00:17:20,217 --> 00:17:22,497 Speaker 2: They just kind of lay back. I don't remember many 388 00:17:22,497 --> 00:17:24,577 Speaker 2: of them being practiced Jews. And I lived in Hollywood 389 00:17:24,577 --> 00:17:27,217 Speaker 2: for a long time, and my entire teams, from managers 390 00:17:27,217 --> 00:17:31,497 Speaker 2: to agents, to publicists to whatever, were Jews, and I 391 00:17:31,497 --> 00:17:33,177 Speaker 2: go along. I'm just fine. But once I got to 392 00:17:33,217 --> 00:17:34,657 Speaker 2: a point where they said, oh, you can't work with 393 00:17:34,697 --> 00:17:36,937 Speaker 2: you anymore. But I've been to Israel like five or 394 00:17:36,977 --> 00:17:38,857 Speaker 2: six times, and I'll tell you the Jews and Israel 395 00:17:38,897 --> 00:17:41,897 Speaker 2: loved Trump, so totally opposite with the Jews community in 396 00:17:41,897 --> 00:17:45,377 Speaker 2: America for some reason. So I wish I could figure 397 00:17:45,377 --> 00:17:48,137 Speaker 2: that one out. But you know, as I tell my 398 00:17:48,177 --> 00:17:50,377 Speaker 2: liberal friends, I said, you know, behind closed doors, you're 399 00:17:50,377 --> 00:17:52,097 Speaker 2: gonna admit to yourselves that Trump's going to make your 400 00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:54,337 Speaker 2: lives better, but you will never admit it in public. 401 00:17:54,537 --> 00:17:55,977 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, there's a lot of there's a lot 402 00:17:55,977 --> 00:17:57,937 Speaker 1: of that going on. Let me tell you. People they're like, yeah, 403 00:17:57,977 --> 00:18:01,097 Speaker 1: maybe the crazy stuff that was going on with the 404 00:18:01,097 --> 00:18:04,057 Speaker 1: Biden regime and the dementia puppet and everything, maybe it 405 00:18:04,097 --> 00:18:06,777 Speaker 1: wasn't such a good idea. Just one more thing for you. 406 00:18:06,777 --> 00:18:10,657 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. I know you've you've that's a record 407 00:18:10,657 --> 00:18:14,017 Speaker 1: that you say you're able to make independent films that 408 00:18:14,057 --> 00:18:16,777 Speaker 1: make money. Just being able to make independent films is 409 00:18:17,537 --> 00:18:19,177 Speaker 1: I know people have tried to do this. That's you know, 410 00:18:19,177 --> 00:18:21,817 Speaker 1: impressive enough, But you've got that where Yeah, it's not 411 00:18:21,977 --> 00:18:23,977 Speaker 1: easy to do the fact that you actually do it 412 00:18:24,657 --> 00:18:27,417 Speaker 1: as a capitalist and it's successful, I tip my hat 413 00:18:27,457 --> 00:18:30,457 Speaker 1: to you on that. But if somebody gave you is 414 00:18:30,457 --> 00:18:33,377 Speaker 1: is there a historical epic that you would want to 415 00:18:33,417 --> 00:18:35,817 Speaker 1: do or a project of any kind that you would 416 00:18:35,857 --> 00:18:38,537 Speaker 1: want to do that if you had whatever budget you 417 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:40,977 Speaker 1: needed to do it, you already have in your mind 418 00:18:41,057 --> 00:18:41,897 Speaker 1: this is what it would be. 419 00:18:42,937 --> 00:18:45,697 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would like to redo the musical Jesus Christ 420 00:18:45,777 --> 00:18:48,737 Speaker 2: Superstar because when the original one came out in seventy 421 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:51,217 Speaker 2: seventy one, it was a totally made a modern day. 422 00:18:51,257 --> 00:18:53,457 Speaker 2: It was totally affected by the hippie movement, the free 423 00:18:53,497 --> 00:18:56,777 Speaker 2: love movement, and it's just horrible. The soundtrack is fantastic. 424 00:18:56,857 --> 00:18:59,977 Speaker 2: Andrew Lloyd Weber did an amazing soundtrack. I told I 425 00:19:00,017 --> 00:19:01,897 Speaker 2: was telling Mell about this. When I said it, he goes, well, 426 00:19:01,897 --> 00:19:04,457 Speaker 2: good luck for that. But I was just like, I 427 00:19:04,497 --> 00:19:06,737 Speaker 2: would like to redo it and do it set in 428 00:19:06,817 --> 00:19:10,617 Speaker 2: biblical times, and I would book all the characters of 429 00:19:10,657 --> 00:19:13,817 Speaker 2: people that really could sing. I mean, it just there 430 00:19:13,817 --> 00:19:15,737 Speaker 2: were some great voices in that in the original, but 431 00:19:15,817 --> 00:19:17,937 Speaker 2: overall it was just it was it was. It was 432 00:19:18,017 --> 00:19:20,577 Speaker 2: just so bad. It was so it was so dated, 433 00:19:20,617 --> 00:19:22,217 Speaker 2: and it doesn't need to be dated. I mean, you 434 00:19:22,257 --> 00:19:25,337 Speaker 2: can go back to the forties and see Casablanca today. 435 00:19:25,537 --> 00:19:28,577 Speaker 2: It's not dated. It's awesome. It's such a great script. 436 00:19:29,337 --> 00:19:31,497 Speaker 2: I would love to do Jeremiah Johnson type of movie. 437 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:34,857 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of that Robert Redford movie, and 438 00:19:34,897 --> 00:19:37,457 Speaker 2: to me, it's but Jesus great superstar. I think for 439 00:19:37,497 --> 00:19:39,497 Speaker 2: eighty million dollars, I could do a great job with it. 440 00:19:40,537 --> 00:19:43,657 Speaker 1: Kevin Sorber, everybody, Kevin, what's your production studio? Where's some folks? 441 00:19:43,697 --> 00:19:46,377 Speaker 1: Go online to see your next projects and support your work. 442 00:19:47,137 --> 00:19:50,457 Speaker 2: Go to Sorbo Studios dot com at sorbostudios dot com. 443 00:19:50,497 --> 00:19:52,017 Speaker 2: A lot of great things come on the pipeline. I 444 00:19:52,017 --> 00:19:54,537 Speaker 2: got three great documentaries come down. One deals with the 445 00:19:54,617 --> 00:19:57,017 Speaker 2: Last Supper. It's called Eating with the Enemy. It's with 446 00:19:57,057 --> 00:19:59,217 Speaker 2: Brent Miller and Ingenuity Films. I did one with them 447 00:19:59,217 --> 00:20:01,737 Speaker 2: three years ago called Before the Rath that deals with 448 00:20:01,737 --> 00:20:03,617 Speaker 2: a second Coming. It was the number one document in 449 00:20:03,617 --> 00:20:06,057 Speaker 2: Amazon for five months. And I want to give a 450 00:20:06,137 --> 00:20:09,777 Speaker 2: plug from my buddy, Ian went veteran who does Patriot clothing. 451 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:12,937 Speaker 2: Go on his website as well. Great guy and support 452 00:20:12,937 --> 00:20:13,577 Speaker 2: our events. 453 00:20:13,897 --> 00:20:15,897 Speaker 1: Wonderful Kevin, thanks so much for all you do. 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