1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: What's up, You guys are listening to a velvets Edge podcast. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: This is actually a life update podcast with my friend 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Pitt Pomerands. I did a podcast with her at the 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: very beginning of the velvets Edge podcast. Because one, she's 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: a total boss babe and just complete badass. She's a 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: video producer, and she also has a children's book author 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: and just an all around amazing human being. But she 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: has a really cool story and for anyone who's been 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: struggling with infertility or actually having a child, getting pregnant, 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: any of those things, I find her super inspiring. She 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: went through eight miscarriages, She had a surrogate carrying twins 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: for her that did not make it. They passed away 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and still kept fighting, and has now welcomed to twins 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: via surrogate to her world Hunter and Andy. They're so cute. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: I recently got to go to l A and visit them, 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to give you guys the update. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I had so many of y'all messaged me and asked 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: how she was doing, ask if the babies made it, 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and they did, and it's such a cool story. So 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: here's Pip. Oh my gosh, Pimp. I am here catching 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: up with my friend Pip Pomerands. I say, I thought 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: it right right, your name is always Pippy, Pippy Philippa Philippa. 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: I did a podcast with Pip um when I first 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: started the Velvet Sedge podcast, and we told your story 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: of having five miscarriages, going through a surrogate and then 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: losing those babies, and then you had just found out 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: that your new surrogate was pregnant on the podcast. And 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: so I've had so many messages from people saying, what's 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: happened with Pip? Did she have her babies? And so 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of give the people the update. Yes, 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: well you've just seen the ship show that is yeah, 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: so she had her babies. We have the babies and 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: then two months old and they're adorable. They're two months old. 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I just walked into PEPs place 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: and um, one of them would start crying and then 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: you pick up that one and another one, you put 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: the other one down, the other one starts crying. Twins. 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: I know we had them, We got our babies. They're 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: adorable's so so sweet. So yeah, I don't know what 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: you want to know, what do you want to know, well, 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: I want to know everything. But before we get into 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: how amazing Hunter and Andy it are, would you go 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: back and kind of tell a little bit about your 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: story for those who maybe missed the first podcast. Absolutely so, 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: this has been an eight year journey for us. UM 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: having Hunter and Andy in front of us, it's actually 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: it's still so hard to believe that they actually made 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: their way to us, but it would. Yeah, it's been 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: an eight year journey. Um, I've had over eight miscarriages. 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I did about I was just trying to work out 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: how many rounds of IVF, but I'm it was over 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: fifteen rounds of IVF. UM. And then we had a 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: surrogate who got pregnant with twins and she something went 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: terribly wrong, and UM, we naturally had them at twenty 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: three weeks and they did not make it. UM. So 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Parker was alive for fifty six minutes, and Andy, UM, Andy, 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: I do that, UM Parker and Ellie, and Ellie was 58 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: alive for twenty one minutes, and UM, I thought our 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: journey was over. And it was sort of quite early 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: on in the heartbreak. I was sort of, you know, 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: on on your knees and it's just my heart was broken, 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and I realized, you know that if there was a 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: way to keep going. We had three embryos left, and 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, do we keep going or not? 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: And how financially can we do it? Because I'm extremely expensive, 66 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and I mean talk about having a great fertility team, 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: so to speak, around around us, and everyone sort of 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: really rallied around and helped us make our dreams come true. 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: So we found another surrogate pretty quickly. Um, and then 70 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Mother's Day last year, because yeah, Mother's Day last year, 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: she miscarried again. So it was one of those things 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: that I was like two days before Mother's Day when 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: I was meant to be a mother, and then my 74 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: new surrogate had a miscarriage, and I was like, okay, 75 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: well and I literally went back into this dark hole 76 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: and I thought this was not my it was not 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: my this was not my cycle to become a mother 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: and you know, next life and all that sort of stuff. 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: And then I just I don't know how, but she 80 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: she was actually really in the forefront of going, no, 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I want to go straight away again. I'm I'm all 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: drugged up, I've got you know what I mean, Like, 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I want to go again, and so really I've got 84 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: her to thank for really stepping up to the plate 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and going up. And then we actually put two embryos 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: in because there was a thirty You go from a 87 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: thirty five percent chance to a fifty percent chance of 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: falling pregnant with if you put a second embryo in. 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, please, Dear God, just want to 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: please Dear God, but not just one. Imagine telling your 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: husband You're like, I was like, a babe, I just 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: I've always been in awe of you. How in the 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: world did you continue to pick yourself back up and 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: keep trying. Were you just so determined in your mind 95 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: that this was something you wanted for your life. I think, yeah, 96 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I think you get on this sort of It was 97 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: never you know, I waited later on to just like 98 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't one of those goals that were like I'm 99 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: always going to be a mom, But so that it 100 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: hit me a lot later on, and I think it 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: was finding the right life partner, if that makes that. 102 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Josh and I met a little later. We met it 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: thirty I think thirty three or thirty five. I think 104 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: thirty five. Um, and you know it's not really later, 105 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: but you know, but by the time we dated and 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: then got married and you know, all that sort of stuff, 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: But it was it was that he was the right 108 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: person for for me. So then you kick into gear 109 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: and then it was just I just was so I 110 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: was like, screw that. No, nobody's telling me no, not 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: not not down here or the person upstairs. I was 112 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, no no. And I was like, 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Every every time I held 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: one of my friends babies, I was just like, why 115 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: is this not me? Why is this not me? Because 116 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: we had so much love to give, you know, and 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: you watch the news and you watch other people that 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: you really really shouldn't be parents, and you're like, that 119 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: gets you crazy. So I think I just got in this. 120 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: You're just determined. I just got scorpioed on. Nobody tells 121 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: me no, Well do you feel like now can you 122 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: look back and say, Okay, this happened at exactly the 123 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: right time. These two Hunter and Andy are the babies 124 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I was supposed to have in this life, Like, what 125 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: does it feel like now? So we've got um, We've 126 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: got Parker and Alley's um. I got a water color 127 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: done because I didn't want photos, and I got a 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: water color downe and I have the watercolor of um 129 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Parker and Ellie above their change table, and we say 130 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: good morning to them every morning, and I thank them 131 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: because if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have these 132 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: beautiful babies. Crying. I always end up crying, but it's 133 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: so true. And someone told me, look tears. Someone told 134 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: me that there are rainbow babies, and you know, it's 135 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: like they are, and I just I'm just so grateful. 136 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: I can have gratitude in my heart because I have them. 137 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: But if I didn't, if we didn't fall pregnant, if 138 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: we didn't have a baby, I think I would be 139 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: in a completely different space. So that's where I sort 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: of really challenge everyone to never give up on their drink. 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say to you, is 142 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: what would you say to someone who has the dream 143 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: but maybe it's not working out. Call me. I will 144 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: be your biggest cheerleader. Honestly, I just think there's got 145 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: to be You've got to have hope in your heart. 146 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: You've got to have you do, have to have sheer determination, 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: but it will happen. You just have to keep going, 148 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, and it's and have a supportive partner too. 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's huge. I think it's really huge because 150 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: if he had of the babe, I literally can't do this, 151 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: then we would have had a different outcome, you know, 152 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: because he just supported what I wanted, you know, totally. 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: You couldn't have done it on your own way. Jose Um, 154 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: you've very encouraging about the freezing egg situation. We've talked 155 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot about that, so so you're a big proponent 156 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: of all of the medical things you can do now 157 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: right A thousand, I mean, tell me more about your take. 158 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's really important to um protect 159 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: protect yourself as a woman, UM and not have to 160 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: choose a partner out of desperation, out of time ticking. 161 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I think there's some sort of safety as and just 162 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: buys you a little bit more time. It doesn't necessarily 163 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: buy you all the time in the world, but it 164 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: does buy you a little bit of time. UM, if 165 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: we hadn't have had the opportunity to have a surrogate, 166 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: and that's that I think is really mind blowing. In 167 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: one sense. In Australia, surrogacy is still a eagle right. 168 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: You told me that that's crazy. That's by a part 169 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: of the reason why we stayed here as well. Um. 170 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, if I think we're in the day and 171 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: age that why not take it? We all do you know? 172 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: We all get botox, we all do all the other 173 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: bits and pieces that we can technology in every aspect 174 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: of our life. Why the heck not. Um, I don't 175 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: believe it's playing with what's meant to be. I really don't. 176 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: How hard was it on your body? You said you 177 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: did have many rounds over fifteen. That is in my 178 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: mind that my head wants to pop off my body. 179 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hello, you've seen me in Very Cavalry. I 180 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: finally feel like I've been puffy for years. I can 181 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: imagine that because that's you're pumping and they say that 182 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: like you blow it, and you do, and it's Look, 183 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: it's really hard to watch me on Very Cavalry sometimes. 184 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, in my heart, I'm not you know, but 185 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I feel like since having them, I've just shredded, Like 186 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I feel so in my body finally. Really, it's the 187 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: weirdest thing. I just feel. I just feel calm. I 188 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: feel I don't know, but you've got to do it. 189 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I guess you've got to do it. You know what, right, 190 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were holding onto so much grief too, 191 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: you know, all of that stuff, and that's sort of 192 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: happiness shines through now rainbows and sunshine. Isn't okay? So 193 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: tell us what it's like to be a mom? Is 194 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: it everything you thought it would be? In more? I'm 195 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: so dyet it's so diet twins crazy. He's the crazy thing. 196 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: My body huts like ship, what do you mean? It's 197 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: so sore. I'm like, think about it. You're lifting white 198 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: it's literally like and my wrists. It's like getting a workout, 199 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: warned me, which is good. I mean, I think being 200 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: a mom is it's just incredible. It's okay, truth. It 201 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: still hasn't really hit me, really, I still I only 202 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: just thought the other day, oh my god, I've got 203 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: babies for Easter. I haven't. I used to do ballet, 204 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I only the other day it was literally, 205 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and you could do ballet. Like it's 206 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: only literally really sleeping in that I've got the babes 207 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: because it's been such a long journey. If that makes anyway, 208 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't make total sense. And also hunah, we should 209 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: say was in the hospital for what five weeks after? 210 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, it was. Of course, it wasn't 211 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: easy getting them here. I was like, I mean, let's 212 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: talk about it. But we we had the babies. And 213 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: the babies came at thirty five weeks, which was pretty good. Um. 214 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: She was our sarrog It was on bed rest for 215 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot most of the pregnancy because she had a 216 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: rupture in her PLAC center. So it was we were 217 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I was nervous. Did you think it was going to happen? I? 218 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Actually again, yeah, I did. To be totally honest, I 219 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: was extraordinarily, we were really nervous. Um, And so we 220 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: were just trying to get to Christmas. It was like 221 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: I set goals and so I literally watch Hallmark movies 222 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: in October to Christmas movies. Adjusted will will them here 223 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: for Christmas? And then we got to New New Year's 224 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: and thanks God, Hallmark as a New Year movies. Actually yeah, 225 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: that's I digress, but it was we just were doing 226 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: benchmarks and benchmarks and we just wanted to get them 227 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: in the New year, and um, and we got to 228 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: the thirty one of January and our little miracle came in. 229 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: We were there for the birth. Hunter came out first 230 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: via c section and UM and then Andy and then 231 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: they got whipped up to the nike because they were 232 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: really there were small. Hunter was a lot smaller still 233 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: quite so he was four eleven and he was five 234 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: five UM. And then they lose I didn't know this, 235 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: but the babies lose a lot of weight when they 236 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: come out. So Hunter dropped right down to like four, 237 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: and she dropped down to five. She was in the 238 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: nicke for forty eight hours, so that's quite standard. UM 239 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: and then he ended up being there for five weeks 240 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: because he wasn't feeding properly. He was too busy, like 241 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: looking around. He was so not into it and it 242 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: just was it's just torture juggling. Then one at home 243 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: and then one at Cedars, but lucky we lived so 244 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: close to the hospital. UM. I had major um PS. 245 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: But what is it PS? What's post traumatic stress stress PTSD? 246 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Because I then thought Hunter wasn't going to survive, and 247 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: the last time, because of because of Parker and Alley, 248 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I literally would go into the nikki and just ball crying, 249 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: just quite. It's quite a lonely experience. And then you 250 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: watch other parents come in and out and it's quite 251 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: it's quite a UM. Everyone's nervous in there, so to speak, 252 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: so it was quite quite confronting UM and then UM. 253 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: But finally he came out and then it was like 254 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: on game one and he likes stick screen. Well that's 255 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: what we were saying earlier. When I walked in, I 256 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: think he was crying. So then you handed me Andy 257 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: and then she was fine, but then she picked him 258 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: up and then she started crying and then he sort 259 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: of crying. It was just like Twins man, I mean, 260 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: is it just always it's a constant one needs something 261 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: it is and you find yourself juggling in ways. Your 262 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: body moves in like different ways. I have had my 263 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: leg out holding like the pacifire with my toe in 264 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: her mouth, like holding the other one, like with the bottle. 265 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy the things that you come up with, 266 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: like just to do. But it's all I know, and 267 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: it's correct and cute. Well now you can be done. 268 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I got your two, I know, I know, my gosh, 269 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: it's they're so cute. I can't do. You guys still 270 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: have the charity that you set up after Elian Parkerd 271 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Pom Poms and start us pom poms and start ups 272 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: and people can find that on palm poms and start 273 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: us dot com. Correct. Yeah, so that tell a little 274 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: bit about what that's always doing. You know, it's taken 275 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: a little time working out what to do. So we're 276 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: going to we're going to be picking every every year, 277 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: we'll pick UM something to do with IVF surrogacy research 278 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: UM and it's established charity and give to them um, 279 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: just so that it's it remains a big focus that 280 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: we're very busy with the babes now so, but it's 281 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: so passionate. It's a passionate of ours to give back 282 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: um to everyone that was so great to us. Um. 283 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're going to do one outdoor event 284 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: every year under the stars. Yes, So we're going to 285 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: do UM this summer, we're going to do a movie outdoors, 286 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: UM outdoor movie and you know, live band and we're 287 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: going to we've written a song, Mother of Angels totally 288 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: has written it with me, so um we're going to 289 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: perform that and then put do all the sales to 290 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: that for the charity. That's amazing to give back. Yeah. Yeah, 291 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: So what would you last words of advice to anyone 292 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: going through anything similar va if we're not able to 293 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: get pregnant. I mean, obviously you're just a testament to 294 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: fight for what you want. I just think you just 295 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: said it best. You just have to go for it 296 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and don't ever let anyone say no. You know, and 297 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: if you know in your heart, your heart tells you 298 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: when when to keep on going to stop? You know? 299 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: If does that make sense? Yeah? I just think and 300 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: yours just always I keep going. You just have to 301 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: keep going. Wow, rainbows and butterflies, sunshine, sunshine baby. Well, 302 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: speaking of which, we're going to go snuggle with these babies. 303 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: My overies are like screaming, We'll get you. Yeah, thank 304 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: you so much. I hope everyone enjoyed this update. Where 305 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: can people find you if they want more info about 306 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: what you went through? Um? If you just meaning like Instagram, 307 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: maybe what's your Instagram handle? I was going to say 308 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: dot com. It's I'm I'm sorry you guys on Insta 309 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: and and I encourage everyone to dm dm me because 310 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: honestly I will answer you and I'm here for you. 311 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: And also people can see you on very Cavalary for 312 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: your last hurra in Mexico with us, we dragged her 313 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: to Mexico right before the babies came. We were like, 314 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: you need this trip. It was literally like it was 315 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: two weeks before the baby. Aren't you so glad now 316 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: that you went. I don't know what. I haven't seen 317 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the hide Okay, fair, no, I know, of course I was. 318 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean it was amazing. It was nice to get 319 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: a little sunshine and past time with your friends right 320 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: before the baby. We'll be able to do that again, 321 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: you know. Come on, well true you'll always fund to 322 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: babies travel, don't they know? It's exciting all right when 323 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: you guys, tune into that fine people on Instagram and 324 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: let us know if you have any more questions. 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