1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,319 Speaker 1: Find Downey and Michael and I have her radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Sarah looks real cute right now. I don't know if 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: you guys are joking or not practicing to be a 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: mom already? You really are? You got like the cute 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: like Beverly Hills Hotel, like cute little white hat on. No, 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: this is what happens with your Nike easy little leggings 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: and your oversized sweater kind of like mom already over 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: the shoulders. So this is what mom like. It's ties. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: This is ties a b I woke up five minutes 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: before I was. I'm not a morning person, so this 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: was just a happy month. Thanks for the Starbucks by 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: the way, Oh yeah, thank you. Okay, you guys do 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: this every time, like you did? You are you not 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: near a Starbucks? You know what I mean? But I 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: live an hour away, so if I bring you a Starbucks, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: it's melted. So why would you want to Starbucks from 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: an hour away time? Because Janna will wake up at 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the very last minute that she can, so there's no 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: time for any extra curriculars in between getting to where 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: we need to be. Our day every day, like today 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: is we leave here. We have a couple of therapy 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: right after, like ten minutes later. Then we have another 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: meeting ten minutes after that in Los Angeles, which it 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: takes thirty minutes to get anyone. So food in drinks, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: in beverage. That's why Janna has a purse full of 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: bars and one water me on in the hand. Who 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: eats normal person food? But yesterday, he goes, man, we 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: didn't really have lunch yesterday. I go, you mean those 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: two burgers you ate at twelve o'clock wasn't lunch. I 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: did see you eat those burgers, So I don't know 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: why you're saying. I was just like, what else did 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: you need? More subsistence? More so, in the midst of 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: our busy day to day, I do have like a 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: six hour tattoo session, which Jane and I classic conversation 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: where we're like save it. We started talking about something 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: naturally coming into the studio today and asked you and 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: I was like, do you like chess tattoos? I don't. 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I personally don't. She was like, no, I don't. And 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: she was like, but I will say this, I like 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: chess tattoos more than back tattoos. And I'm like, my 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: whole type, my whole back is tattoos. I'm like, you've 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: never told me this. She was like yeah when we 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: first met. That was the one thing I didn't like 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: it that you was like it. I thought, I remember 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: seeing it and the like, I've never liked it. But 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I never wanted to tell him, like how good would 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: that be? Well, it's a little permanent, you know what 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's one of those things where I'm 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: like okay, and he's like, well and he stayed with me. 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm not gonna not be with you. 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: But it was. It was the first date. It was 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: when I went and met her in Chicago. Was when 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: she you pulled it out. Remember the back of the bus. 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: You literally you're asking me like what tattoos? Did you 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: have any other tattoos? Like did you have your arms? 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I had my arms, So you were like, oh, he's 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: tadded Like he didn't have he didn't have all that. 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: But I had the back of my arms, I had 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: my side, my ribs done. And she wanted to see 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: what else she was signing up for. Yeah, and she 61 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: like we're in the back of her bus and she 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: like pulled my shirt up over my head to see 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: my back and I didn't see her face a little. Know. 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: She's like, I just don't like back tattoos at all. 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you never never liked it. I love you, 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. It's nothing we do 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: about now. But it's just he's like, that's funny because 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: because I don't like that, I don't like girls with 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: brown eyes either, So actually this works out well. Brown 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: eyes are my least favorite. I call it for girls. 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: But it's okay, that's what I mean. I love you, 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's all. It's also funny is Mike's covering 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: up my face today. Oh god, it's the sore subject. 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: We've been waiting for this. I mean we haven't been waiting, 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: but we've been talking about how he's fixing. So he wanted, 76 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, this sleeve tattoo, and you know, we had 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: a conversation around it. I'm like, you do whatever you want, 78 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: but like I just want you to be happy. It's 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: your thing. You're a sleeve. But he's like, it's really pretty. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, he's all about his his thing. 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: If you let's talk about it, he can. But you know, 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: one of the things on there, he's like, I really 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: want to put your face on my arm. And I 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: was just like wow, like that's pretty cool, you know, 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: you know so, But now he came home a couple 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: of weeks ago from the tattoos. This is like a month, 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: like two months ago when we talked about two months. 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: It's all relative. He goes, so I'm going to cover 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: your face up. First of all, I did it on 90 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: the plane and Los Angeles going back to Nashville like 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: a month or so ago, like six weeks ago. Strategically, 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: so I had witnesses around me, so she she could 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: she had to stay somewhat calm about what I was 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: proposing to her, like so because she asked me earlier 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: that day before we left, because I was like hey, 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: because he had one session of the face that he 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: wasn't done yet, So I was like, hey, so, like 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: what does he say. He's gonna like help do to 99 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: like shade it to look a little, you know, more 100 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: like the INSMA photo you wanted. And he's like yeah, yeah, 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: He's like yeah, I actually didn't get a chance to 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: talk to about it. But then he drops it on 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the plane and their whole conversation was him covering it 104 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: with a Spartan. What a Spartan. You're a badass Spartan helmet. 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what. So basically he's covering my health 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: with a helmet. What do you say? Well, I'm just curious, 107 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: thank you. So now my face is like that, Okay, 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: I didn't tell jam full story. I'm actually just putting 109 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: a Spartan helmet. Are you keeping her face and then 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: her face behind the spart It's like, I don't know, 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: so but to me, I was like, again, it's your arm. 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: You do whatever you want. It's just how it feels, 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: very like I changed my mind. I don't want you 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: to my room anymore. But that's not it. That's what 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: she and I told her. I explained. I said, look, 116 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: and this is the God's on the truth, the tattoo. 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: The first artist I went to did a terrible job, 118 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: and I trusted him too much. It wasn't at all 119 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: what I wanted. And so I told and I was like, 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: look for me to be proud of a piece of 121 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: your portrait on me. I wanted to. I wanted it 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: to be like this beautiful, Like people see it and 123 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: they're like, damn, that is stunning. This guy did not 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: do that. So my new artist. I've seen his portfolio. 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: He's he can do portraits, like it's like the best 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: thing he does. So I told her, I was like, look, 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: here's the deal. I want to be proud of your 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: face on me right now. I'm not. It's not it 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: doesn't look like I wanted to. I don't know what 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm laughing. I think she looks pretty, but I get 131 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: how you don't. It's not what I wanted. I wanted 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: to be this like just breathtaking peace. And so I 133 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: was like, she's it doesn't know like it doesn't. I'm 134 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: just like imagining myself on Tie's arm and it's just 135 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: not there. I'm just like, it's just kind of face 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: you would have on Tim. I don't even want to know. 137 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm just like laughing. But I get 138 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Um, you're you're pretty. I would want 139 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: to look at myself if I was like on someone's own. 140 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. I never I never even said I 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: was like you do with everyone on that arm. So 142 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: it's the fact that he said he wanted to, which 143 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: I never would have ever said, like put my face 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: on your arm, you know, But he had this image, 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, that's really cool that he 146 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: even wanted to. But now I'm like, like bad part 147 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: of me is like is he covering up? Oh? I know, 148 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know you know her name. I'm going 149 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: to say, even though you're fully branded up from like 150 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: this by anything, I'm just saying, it just feels like 151 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: a you know, you put me on there. Now You're like, well, 152 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: it's about it for me to have tie wear a 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: wedding rings. So if that makes you feel like he 154 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to wear wedding well, he's just he's never 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: warning jewelry. He's just like is it gonna feel weird? 156 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Is it going to be clush? You know my buddy Drew. 157 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: My buddy Drew's like that, does he not wear rings seldom? 158 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't like that. No, ties, like I'm gonna wear it, 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: but like he'll always like pull my rings and he's 160 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: like they don't come off, Like isn't that crush? And 161 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I know that's what I told him. 162 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I sleep in mind. Let him not 163 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: wear a ring. No, No, He's like I'll get a 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: tattoo and I'm like, no, I don't want you to 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: get tattooed. I don't know. First of all, you like 166 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: back tattootes, don't. I don't really like like I'm not 167 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: a tattoo kind of gal for guys, Like I don't know. 168 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: But anyways, I was like, just wear a ring. It's 169 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: very simple, it's very easy. So you need to get 170 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: like a rubber black one. He'll be fine. I'm not concerned, 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: but I do get what you're saying. You're like, oh, 172 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: you don't want And even as much as I I've 173 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: explained it to Janna very delicately, it's not doing that. 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to put you elsewhere on my body. But 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: but I'm like, you don't have to. It's just I 176 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: just feel like now you're like trying to like it's 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: okay if you don't. But now I feel like you're 178 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to be like this is a trap. It's not 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: okay if you don't put it on your body. No. 180 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I do agree, because Janna is like, so are you 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: going to say no? You even said the other day 182 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: at the appointment, So are you going to talk about 183 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: like you know, when you're gonna when you're gonna make 184 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: the appointment to put me on you? No? No, No, 185 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying because you that's what you said, So like, 186 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: it's what do you want if you don't want to 187 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: just be honest because you did it first and then 188 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: you changed your mind because now I'm becoming a spartan. 189 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: So I just get when this wait, So is that 190 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: what the appointment is today? Sorry to go, So you're 191 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: going to fix her today or put her somewhere else. 192 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to cover her sus This is like harsh, 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: but no, I'm just saying, like, do you not want 194 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: like being totally honest, Like no, I do. I want 195 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the piece that I wanted originally, but you wanted it 196 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: on that arm though, so it'll change because my whole 197 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: thing is like the reason he got the arm is 198 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: because of the meaning of the thing. So I'm like, well, 199 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: it not me. You're just you're making this more complicated 200 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: than it is. Really, yes, it's not that complicated, but 201 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: you wanted your sleeve that like right, but it's still 202 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: it being army, It's still meaningful. Okay, whatever. I mean again, 203 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: it's like whatever, I know what I'm trying to tell 204 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: you that, but you're just not accepting what I'm telling you. 205 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: What am I not accepting because you keep going to it. Well, 206 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: if it's not on that same mornument doesn't mean as much. Well, 207 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: if you don't do me at all. If I'm just 208 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, I'm just asking, I think once 209 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: she sees it somewhere else, then it all kind of 210 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: like again, I don't care, I'm just asking. Like he 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: gets so defensive and I'm like, I'm not I'm not defensive. Well, 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm just like you're saying, like all these things. I'm like, 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions. I'm allowed to ask questions, right, 214 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: But you've asked the same questions and I've answered them, 215 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: but you still have the same feelings around it, and 216 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I've tried to I'm just trying to reassure you. I'm like, 217 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's not the case, but you keep 218 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: saying but I feel like you're covering me up. You 219 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: don't want me on there. I'm like, I'm that's not 220 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the cay. How many times you have to tell you 221 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: that is not the case. I just know that sometimes 222 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: you say things to like sugarcoat it where it's like, 223 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: but maybe it's not what you actually want because you're 224 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: like trying to make me happy, and you know, I 225 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: feel like in this instance, he really does want the 226 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: tat like, I think he really does want you something. 227 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: If I didn't want it, I wouldn't have gotten it 228 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: on me to begin with. I know. But now you're 229 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: like it's being covered up. So now I'm like, because 230 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't want to just take a look at it. 231 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: Can I get a look at it? It doesn't matter, 232 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: it's going away. I don't feel like it's going away. 233 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's going away. All right, let's take 234 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: a break. If you're in southern California and love Cheryl Crow, 235 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: well we have something special for you. Cheryl is doing 236 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: a private performance at the I Heart Radio Theater Monday, 237 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: December two at seven pm. It's free. So you just 238 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: need to email us to r s up and we 239 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: will email you back to confirm. So email Janna Kramer 240 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: and I Heart Media dot com. That's Janna Kramer and 241 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I Heart Media dot com if you would like tickets 242 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: to see Cheryl Crow in l A. I'm from like 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: a healthy conversation. I start off the morning. You know what, 244 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I was in my car for 245 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: like an hour, just like solo, Miss so I'm excited 246 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: to be around. I was listening to the same song 247 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: over and over. Right now, it's stuck in my head. 248 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sing it even though, okay, you want 249 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: me to sing, you know. The new Celina Gomes song 250 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: is up. I love it when she says I needed 251 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: to hate you to love me. Yeah dead. I wish 252 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: I was going through a breakup hate you. I needed 253 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: to Hey, you love me? You love so good? Everyone 254 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: just like turned. Everyone whoever was driving just crashed. Lindsay 255 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: All has a really good new song too. I heard 256 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: it yesterday on the way here. I heard it yesterday 257 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: all my way here. I was going to take a pick, 258 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: but I was It's like, I'm gonna give you a 259 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: little bit right now on Spotify. It's so good. I 260 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Don't Love You by Lindsay Ella Jam. She played its 261 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: like before they released it, and it's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, 262 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: if you want to go through a breakfast on Missy 263 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: sometime like I'm like, I have Goosey's again. It's so good. 264 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: So you guys, dreams of a favorite, get that song, 265 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: roll your windows up, crank up the tunes, sit in 266 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: your car and jam jams wry about whoever you want 267 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: to cry about, like still have the children about whoever 268 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you want? Is there a song that you guys have Like, 269 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm like that, I'm so excited for this conversation. I 270 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: don't know where I know that you still think of 271 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: that one person even every time you sing it. Please, 272 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Joanna started thought, we wait, we need we need to 273 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: know that this is a safe space. So you no, no, no, no, 274 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking questions like is there someone 275 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: that you still think about? Like it could be a friend. 276 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: She needs to totally lead this af It could be 277 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: a friend, it could be a parent. Could know for example, 278 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: like I can't listen to Amazed by Lone Star because 279 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: it broke up my parents marriage. Wait, baby, I'm amazed 280 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: by I love that. Wait, that song broke up your parents. 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: My mom goes, do you feel this way about me? 282 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: And my dad said no and they got divorced. Oh. 283 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: I just almost all out of my chair. Yeah. I 284 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: mean granted, I mean things, but yeah, do I make you? Yeah? 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: My mom was do you do you feel this way 286 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: about me? And my dad said no. Into this day, 287 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: my mom cannot listen to that song. And I know 288 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the stories, so now I can't the best part of 289 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: it is I went to I went to Lone Star 290 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: because I did a few songs with them. I was like, 291 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: y'all broke my parents up. Thanks Dick, Thanks. Wow, all right, 292 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: I have a I have a jam and it doesn't 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: affect me today, but about Trish, so it did, it 294 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: did for a long time. It's okay, this is a 295 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: safe zone safe yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure bitches. Yeah, 296 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: which we never have. Okay, so we never have. He's 297 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: getting ready to okay, everyone, okay, we're just about don't laugh. 298 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: It was my like college girlfriends, Daniel Daniel. I actually 299 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: love her. We actually have a great conversation. We're friends. 300 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: It's probably a Mike Fashion conversation totally, but I love 301 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: her and I think she's so sweet. She's very sweet. 302 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: She deserved a lot better than me, so didn't we 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: all Yeah, okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it all 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: right here it is Oh yeah, hey, hey, Daniel, did 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you call it boo boo? That was a jam? Oh well, 306 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: that's like that's like cute. But I feel like, like, 307 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: what about you? You didn't tell us yours? Oh your 308 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: parents yeah, she has another one. That's that's I just 309 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: put myself out there. Okay, I can think of okay, 310 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: like the chair by George Straits, my parents wedding song 311 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: that makes me think of them. No, no, okay, well 312 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: what about like another boy though? Since we're going there 313 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: but you didn't go there, I will. Okay, she makes 314 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: us go first. I know, I'm just gonna like throw 315 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: one out there because her is gonna take the cake. 316 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Um you mean like not about Thyler Wells to be 317 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: like honestly, like, I'm trying to think it's funny because 318 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, come on you before I have five thousand. 319 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to think if I put you 320 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: on to show what the Arizona state, because like like 321 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the one, the one before Tye, it's all like hate, 322 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: like any hate songs. I'm just trying to think, totally 323 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: make me think of him. But then the one from 324 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: high school I would probably see, like any Taylor Swift song. 325 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know what song? Okay there? Oh 326 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: my god? How did I just remember this? This is crazy? Okay, there, 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember what song Tory? What song is it? 328 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: I remember driving to your house in the middle of 329 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: the not on Yeah, yeah, okay, you belong with me? Maybe? 330 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Is that okay? Right? Yeah, okay, yeah, because that every 331 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: and she sings out at every concert, and every time 332 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: she sings it, it makes me think of my high 333 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: school boyfriend because he one. Because it's just me. You know, 334 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: I love Taylor Sliff so much. So every boyfriend I've 335 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: ever had loves her too. And one time he was like, 336 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: we were listening to that song and he was like, 337 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: this song literally makes me think of you every time 338 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I hear it, because he used to drive to my 339 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: house like every night in the middle of the night, 340 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: like he would sneak in and he would sneak out, 341 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: and he was like, every time I hear this, I 342 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: think of you because she says, what does she say, 343 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: I remember you driving? Yeah, yeah, the nut I'm the 344 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: one who makes you laugh. Yeah that one. And now 345 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: we're singing again, so yeah that one actually, So here's 346 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: my question. But here's my question. So when this conversation, 347 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: is it something where like, is it okay to have 348 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: that memory? Is it okay? That's the time, It's a 349 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: different time, and it's it's because here's the thing I'm like, 350 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: is this disrespectful to each other that we're like, no, 351 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: because none of us existed when this happened, and it's 352 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: not you know what I mean, Like like we all 353 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: were in each other in that moment we thought that 354 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: was it. Yeah for sure, but right, but like, so 355 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: let's say that song comes out, your song the Taylor, 356 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: So like that song comes on and it's like, I 357 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: don't feel thinking about Danielle, you know what I mean? 358 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: Or that's the thing. It's like, and you're going to 359 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: think the same thing, like are you thinking about this person? 360 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: Because well, if you would tell us, we would know who. 361 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: It goes back to that, like some thing. It depends though, 362 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: because it depends on how recent they're in your life. 363 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: If you get with somebody and it's like, hey, we 364 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: just started dating, you know, six months ago, an a 365 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: year ago, you're with this person and that's the song 366 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: you tell me, then I'm a little too soon. But 367 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: it's been eight years or something to how many songs 368 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: now that I think like you're like missing No, I 369 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: just I'm like, but then, but then why do it's? Um? 370 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I think it depends. You could definitely be sent down 371 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: a web spiral like feeling now there was different. Like 372 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: when I just heard that, I was like, it's a snap. 373 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I remember well because almost like 374 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: when I think of that, I actually feel like I 375 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: remember when he told me this story and we were 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: like driving. It just takes me back. I'm like, who 377 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: is that? Like I remember her? She was like such 378 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: a little girl, like not so much like. So I 379 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: don't think I can say, oh no, no, no no, no no, 380 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play you this song. Okay, well I wouldn't 381 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: play enough to see as a known person, So just 382 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: go with the song first and let us try and 383 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: just called one moment more. Why Mindy Smith? Who many Smith? 384 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: She's amazing? Oh of course, if y'all gonna just see 385 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: Mike's I rolled to the back of this. Of course. 386 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: It's like borderline love s I'm Gonna kill myself type 387 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: of song. Like it's a multipurpose song. It's like Levin 388 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: or Janet in a bathtub like one. This is it. 389 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: It's all about them not not being able to be together, 390 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: and why weren't y'all able to beat together? Because our 391 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: families did not get along Romeo Juliette. It's just about 392 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: like the one woman more Okay, well, how old were 393 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: you twenty six? Was he a future suitor? What engaged 394 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: were you engaged to this person? Yeah, I'm trying to 395 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: think of Jane's I was he's a singer. Yeah, he knows. 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Can we see off their first sure? Yeah? Got it? 397 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Called it crickets. Crickets you say crickets. I like how 398 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: me and Mike songs were like une boo and it's 399 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: like a tailor swift Bob and Jamie is like if 400 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: you could just come back so dramatic and just arms reaching. 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I know That's what I'm saying. That's why I rolled 402 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: my eyes. I was like, of course this is is 403 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: here that or like it's seven o'clock. I'm then dropped up, 404 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: like if you want to go back there there was 405 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: it was like the high schools, even like Tye n 406 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: I right now, I'm like, we can't even decide on 407 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: the song because I'm like, there's just if you think 408 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: about it every day, you're like, oh this song, this song, 409 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: and especially you know ten years ago that was our 410 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: song like when we left each other. That was just 411 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: like we played were like He's like I can't listen 412 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: to the song anymore. Oh now I'm thinking you can't okay, 413 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: So like I didn't get okay. If we're doing mutual songs, 414 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: the game, this changes the game because that was their 415 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: mutual song? Was that? I mean? For me? Oh my god? 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: High school boyfriend and George straight song he would send 417 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: me three years later, drunkn mill and night. He'd send 418 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: me George trade lyrics And I'm like, George is just 419 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: going to casually be at your wedding school. Why can't 420 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: we say who it is? Because he's very private? Aren't 421 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: we all felt the same? But here we are. I 422 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: don't think you guys all know him. You don't listen 423 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: to country to you? Is she kidding? She looking at me. 424 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I don't listen to country Texas. I don't know. I 425 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: just I you think I understand respect. We'll let people 426 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: do their guesses. Yeah, they'll figure it out. In the comments, 427 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: did he see would he sing it to you? Mike 428 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: is going, but you're really going down a rabbitable here? 429 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: See this is what I said. You can either I 430 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: think of a song where you could just go, We're 431 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: going down a rabbit hole. I'm here for a rabb hole. Yeah, 432 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: I just would yeah, because he's Yeah, yeah, we got her. 433 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Normally you're never suspecting, like you know because big country artist. 434 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh she nearrowed it down. God, and it's not Brentley 435 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: All okay, it's not start digging people anyhoo. Oh that 436 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: was a please change the topic. That was funny. That 437 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: was such a that was a good all right, Let's 438 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: take it one more break and then we'll do an email. Okay, 439 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: So during that commercial break, no, we don't need to 440 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: get in. That's so good. Okay, So we have an 441 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: email from Ashley discovery a second little sister that like 442 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: doing that little commercial break. Chams like, so do you 443 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: miss her? Kidding? I'm sure you know what they say, like, 444 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, you'll always have a piece of my heart. 445 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe people always do have a little piece of your heart. 446 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: Let's just go onto the email. This email is from 447 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: Ashley Janna, Okay, I reading that. Let's have Sarah read 448 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: it since she's neutral to this. After the discovery of 449 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: my husband's sex addiction three weeks ago, my friend basically 450 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: forced me to listen to you. Thank you, Janna, you 451 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: have kept me alive. I have a I have a 452 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: terrible question though, would there have been a limit or 453 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: line you would have drawn to the addiction, like if 454 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: he would have slept with X amount of people or 455 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: did any specific thing that would have been too much 456 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: to bear. That's a really good question because we don't 457 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: get into the specifics of numbers and things. But I 458 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: do remember mm hmm when he was in treatment and 459 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know. I wanted to know how many. 460 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: I just like you wanted to know everything. I wanted 461 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: to know everything, but I wanted to know how many. 462 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: And then in my head I'd be like, Okay, if 463 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: it's this many, I'm leaving. If it's this many, I'm leaving. 464 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: If it's or if it's this then I'm leaving, Like 465 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you would justify things. Yeah, But what I realized was 466 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: was whether it was one or a thousand, it's all bad. 467 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: It all sucks, it all feels deceitful in bad. Um. So, 468 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: first of all, Ashley, I'm I'm glad that this show 469 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: is helping you very Yeah. So sorry, UM, here's the deal. 470 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: When someone's an addiction, it doesn't make sense. And that's 471 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: something that I've had to learn because I'd be like, well, 472 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you could do this and how 473 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: this this person, and like it doesn't make sense when 474 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: you say, like any specific thing, it's all too much 475 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: to bear. It all doesn't make sense. But that's the 476 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: thing we're not it's when you're in an addiction. It 477 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to the addict either, right, No, it doesn't. 478 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: So it's like they in their rational mind, now, I 479 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: hope you know, Mike and recovery can be like, yeah, 480 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: that that's just it's out of control behavior when you're 481 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: an addict. So it's it's actually it's up to you 482 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: to determine that for yourself. And it's and like Janna said, 483 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, early on, Janna would be questioning why, like 484 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: how this, and a lot of times my answer is 485 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, And that was the truth and the 486 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: honest answer because and I think that's the hardest thing 487 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: for these it is to not have an answer exactly, 488 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: to not have an answer. It took Janna a long 489 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: time to accept that kind of as an answer and 490 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: too respect the addictive aspect of this, because it was 491 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: we you know, at the time, especially when Jana was 492 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: asking all those questions, I didn't know because I was 493 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: figuring it all out. I was figuring out where things 494 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: came from what behaviors and when it started and how 495 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: it started and how it manifested and of grew into 496 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: and all of that. So it's it's up to you 497 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: to determine, you know, what you can handle and withstand, 498 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: and the only way you can determine that is over 499 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: a period of time. And the biggest thing, one of 500 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: the biggest things that jan and I've talked about and 501 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: that our couple of therapists told us, and that Janet's 502 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: individual therapist told us or told her, it was set 503 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: yourself a timeline. So it's don't make wasn't no major 504 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: decisions in the first year, which to me sounded crazy. 505 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you kidding me? I want to be like, no, 506 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I need to understand all this and but with but 507 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: within that, within that year, you can make other smaller 508 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: timelines of all right, we're not going to live in 509 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: the same house for the first three months, we're gonna 510 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: be separated or something like that. Um, you can take 511 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: whatever you can take steps to to reconnect so it 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you have to be thrusted and forced 513 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: into staying together or sleeping in the same room or 514 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: being under the same roof. Right away, because you're hurt, 515 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: you're traumatized, So do what you need to have the 516 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: space that you need. But just take a year or 517 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: even if you if a year just sounds too much, 518 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: to six months, don't make any major decisions and live 519 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: with and sit with everything as you process. And great. 520 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: I love that. And also again I just want because 521 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: it's I think it's hard to because when you're in 522 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: that position, the addict is not your husband. The husband 523 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: is not an addict. So with Mike, I'd be like, 524 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: you're that person. He's not that person. It's the addiction 525 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: that made him that person, and he if he's willing 526 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: to do the work and become his version of himself, 527 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: which yes, absolutely to clarify, is not an excuse, it's 528 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: an explanation. So there's that's completely different. Remember that it's 529 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: not an excuse. It's an explanation to his behaviors. And 530 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: it's his job to dig deep and figure out where 531 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: this came from and how to handle them moving forward. 532 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: And it's your job to take care of your good boundaries, 533 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: but take care of yourself and figure out what you 534 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: need moving forward. Lovely girl hanging there, would you leave tie? 535 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Do you like I don't see tie everything on you. 536 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: But I mean god, I never I mean yeah, I've 537 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: always said like I don't know, like even to you, 538 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how you're so strong. 539 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm just not that strong and I'm not that forgiving. 540 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: And you know me, I'm very like I'm really which 541 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: is not I'm not proud of it. But I can drop, stop, 542 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: drop and roll and leave real quick like relationships. Where 543 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: do you think that? Is that any family of origin 544 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: with you or is that just something I think that 545 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: because I'm one of five, I've just been like something 546 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: that people probably don't realize. I'm really independent, Like I 547 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: love being alone when I try travel so much, I 548 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: like to be alone. And I think that just comes 549 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: from a big family and taking care of myself and 550 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: just you know, doing it myself and not worrying about 551 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: anyone but myself. A And I'm sure i got burned somewhere, 552 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure kindergarten or something. I'm sure I 553 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: got burned somewhere along the way. M hmmm. Actually I know, 554 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: actually I know, I know, I know why I am 555 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: the way I am. Um, I think that go there, girl, 556 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Well I feel now we're like just totally keep So 557 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: in high school with my boyfriend broke up with me. 558 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: He broke up with me and never talked to me 559 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: again for a year, and I didn't understand why. I 560 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't understand how. I was seventeen, and I was like, 561 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: how how do you do that? Like you know? And 562 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: this is also how do you just shut it off? 563 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: And I literally, oh my god, I cried all the time, 564 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: not a crier. And I remember saying, I will never 565 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: let someone hurt. I will never let someone do this 566 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: to me again. And I'd never have let anyone do 567 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: it to me again ever. And I think that's why 568 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: I just kind of when I'm done, I'm done, and 569 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I just go because I don't want to feel it again. 570 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to go back there, and I don't. 571 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: It's so I can't even imagine hi, But I know 572 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: you're right, you don't ever imagine it. But I don't 573 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: know that would be so. I think kids is different, 574 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, but that would be so that would be 575 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: so hard for me. It amazes me how impactful um 576 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: experiences in high school and the adolescence, how it shapes 577 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you because you're so impressionable and everything. I was just 578 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: talking to somebody recently, like Nick and Parker and stuff, 579 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: some of my buddies back in Nashville. We're talking about football, 580 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: and it's funny when we had talked about high school 581 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: football memories. Everything in high school seemed larger than life, 582 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: like even people you played with, oh, I remember that, 583 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: they seemed larger than like in my memory. They seem 584 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: bigger than gods I played in the NFL with. And 585 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: it's just everything, it's more pactful and bigger, because that's 586 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: what you think your entire life is is high school 587 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: and emotions are just heightened. I don't know because and 588 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: it's interesting because like as you said that, I'm like, 589 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm I was the opposite. So he left me too. 590 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: But I then became why don't you love me? Why 591 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: am I not enough? And then that is that is 592 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: the moment in my life when I started. And it 593 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: was also during my parents divorced, so it wasn't good 594 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: to have, like to God, and then my Grandpather died, 595 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: so it's all like boom boom bam, and that was 596 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: like wow, Like here, just hearing you say that, I'm like, yep, 597 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: that's that's also maybe why. I was just like, love me, 598 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: love me, love me? Why are you leaving me? No, 599 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: don't leave me? It's crazy. Yeah, And I'll at this 600 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: on top of it with along with y'all. The first 601 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: I think I touched on this before the first girl 602 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: I can say I ever truly felt I was in 603 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: love with. I was like sixteen, she went to a 604 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: different high school. We had like a summer fling in 605 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: my head. I'm like in my heart, I'm like, I 606 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: love this is the first person I've ever loved. She 607 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: left me, cheat on me with her ex boyfriend, got 608 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: back together together with him, and it's like that moment, 609 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I'm never gonna be hurt again, Like 610 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let someone leave me, like I'm going 611 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: to leave them. That was me I left. It's interesting 612 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: how that shapes you, Isn't it crazy? That just one thing. 613 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: And I think because in that moment, like you probably 614 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: had never hurt that way. You probably had never at 615 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: that time, I had never been hurt that way, and 616 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: I didn't understand it, and so you kind of are 617 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, how do I make you know? Your 618 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: little mind is like, how do I make sure this 619 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: never happens never you know, always be the strong hand, 620 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: never let you know. And you were probably like, how 621 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: do I make sure this? I just love just I 622 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: just want love crazy insane. Imagine if we were all 623 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: in high school together. I thought we'd all be friends 624 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: each other susan not like that way each other up. 625 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, god, that's just crazy. Do you 626 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: like mostly most voted for something? Because I was remember 627 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: that time Janna cried because Matthew made me cry all 628 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: the time. Wait, so I was always crying? And then um, 629 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: most like then the cover of Glamour, So that's so cute. 630 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: Um okay, I was, we'll see we did it in 631 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: eighth grade, and then we did it. I think my 632 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: senior year. Oh, senior year, I was voted most likely 633 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: to be mistaken for a celebrity. Okay, that's absolutely is 634 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: not random. That's great. But then in eighth grade I 635 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: got like class clown and like the most athletics just 636 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: charmed everybody. I just I kind of worry for our 637 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: kids though, because I know now impressionable that high school age. 638 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: I think about that too anymore. What's that? Oh? I 639 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: think so like best smile Probably not because they don't 640 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: want to just like everyone gets a trophy, so God, 641 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: here we go. But someone's feelings are going to get hurt. Really, 642 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: they're taking away the likes on Instagram. Oh yeah, which 643 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm totally cool with, see because your analytics are still 644 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: going to be there for like, but you know what's 645 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: funny is they're taking away the likes. But it's like 646 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: the likes aren't the trolls are in the comments. So 647 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: you think there are things that there are pictures that 648 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: I don't put on my Instagram because I know they're 649 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: not going to have a good but I would like to, 650 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: but I know they're not going to have a it 651 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: it hurts and that hurts me, like it messes with 652 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: my head when that's why this one's only gonna get 653 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: ten and it's like a hundred thousand. I didn't understand why, 654 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: but now I guess that makes sense. I was like, 655 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: if you like, you can still go to analytics sure 656 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: for like this, you know, sponsored stuff, and they got it. 657 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Are you heeling your nails on? I just peeled off 658 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: all my jels. Sorry, I was getting like nervous talking 659 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: about my high school self. Clearly. I was just like, 660 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: you are well and they were peeling off some like, no, 661 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: are you kidding? I feel like we had we had 662 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: a nostalgia episode a few weeks ago. I feel like 663 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: this is that that should have been this title. I know, No, 664 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll tell you mind if you tell 665 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: me yours? I know, wait, tell you tell me you're what. 666 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: The other one who the song was about, his name 667 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: is John. Oh, good job real, tell us Brian's with rip. Okay, 668 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: we'll do that. John's very common names. Thoughts always said it, 669 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: you're dick. What? Oh my god, I said it, Tricia John? 670 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: You know the other one, the high school girl. Now 671 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: she's just making you say any name. We're talking about 672 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: the song. I thought you were talking about the high 673 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: school girl. His high Yeah, we're talking about two so 674 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: many times, guys. Funny. Now look at all of us. 675 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: We're all just married and I know happy. I can't 676 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: wait till Julie Ho's our first boyfriend. M M, like, 677 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: how are you going to handle that? It's I'll be 678 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: better than when Jay says his first girlfriend. We're watching 679 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: it made me. We're watching Crazy Stupid Love Yesterday, I 680 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: love and even It's We're like we started ten minutes 681 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: in and Janna was like, is this what we're gonna watch? 682 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm not writing in a truck. Ten 683 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: more minutes. Ten more minutes later, she was just like 684 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: I love this movie. I was like, I know, that's 685 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: why we're watching it, but like with his son and 686 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: like being in love at eighth grade and so I'm like, 687 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine, like Janna, I mean Jolie and Jay 688 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: and Ace and like when he said whole a million 689 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: times when they're doing start like Julian Moore had to 690 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: go in to give him. I was like, I'm almost 691 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: excited that for those moments, just to be like on 692 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: the receiving it, because I was just always in trouble life. 693 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: You're like, so just to be the parent to be 694 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: like but it's like do you get attached, Like if 695 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Julie has a boyfriend and you don't like him, or 696 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: what if you love him so much? And like she's 697 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: heartbroken first heartbreak that dad, that's like, why are you 698 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: going to break up with him? I remember when my 699 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: dad start with me. I was so because it's your dad, 700 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to like talk about it. I feel 701 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: like you're going to be like that, like, Jolie, what's 702 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: what's going on? I'm gonna be I'm gonna be like 703 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: this other girl did in high school when I broke 704 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: up with her, her parents, her parents, her parents left 705 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: me so much, and they're kind of like they kind 706 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: of looked at their daughter and they're like, well, you know, 707 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Mike's a really nice boy and he probably had a reason, 708 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: and you know, but you're sending the fact that I 709 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: did that that's funny. Um so I had. I was 710 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: looking at the reviews of the show. I used to 711 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: love Janna, love her music, but when she talks about 712 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: how much money she spends, I finally had to stop listening. 713 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like which episode which was too because I'm 714 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: the most frugal person in the world. At first, I 715 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: was like, what we're discussing what her husband spent on 716 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: video games? Was in poor taste. I don't even make 717 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: that in a year. I'm very sorry, and somehow it's 718 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: not your fault. Society is like this, but please don't 719 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: add to this. I think, look what you did, you 720 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: a little. Janna is ruden all around nasty human. I 721 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: just want to say thank you, mission accomplished. Wait, what 722 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: are you reading yea this podcast reviews um. The last 723 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: few episodes have been very uncomfortable. It seems like the 724 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: episodes are filled pasive aggressive comments towards Mike. It's uncomfortable 725 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: to hear Janet bash Mike so much. Well, listen to 726 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: this episode because we were having fun, and also last 727 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: week's episode we had a lot of fun. So tune in. 728 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: That's so funny. Wait, what I just want to say. 729 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry of the people to think I'm passive aggressive. 730 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: I know that that's something that I'm working on, and 731 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: I love my husband and sometimes for the show we 732 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: have to have, um, we have to have disagreements, because 733 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: that's it would be boring. I think they got All 734 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: they do is agree. All they do is be happy 735 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: and in love. Yeah, this is us. Take her to 736 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: leave it, damn bo. But thanks for having my back 737 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: out there. Oh god, Oh my gosh, it's funny. Because 738 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: we were having this conversation, I was just like, because 739 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: what are you laughing? Are right now? Why are you loving? 740 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: Who just sent that to you? Do you think who's listen? Oh? 741 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: Eastern onlievable. Eastern just sent a photo to Mike of 742 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: my face being covered up with a spartan head. It's 743 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: very funny. Can you just save that because I'm going 744 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: to post it next. That's exactly what I had money 745 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: east than I can take this to my art today. 746 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: I just can we just wrap that up though, because 747 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: I really do want to say, and this is from 748 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: my absolutely, I'm not playing games. I'm not I you 749 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: know I've always and why I'm so sensitive to that 750 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: arm is because you said I want to look down 751 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: in this arm and know that you know this is 752 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: my recovery arm, and this is what this means, and 753 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: this is what this means. So I just want you 754 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: to know. I just want you to be happy with 755 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing. And I've always said that with your 756 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: with your arm, like it is your arm, you do 757 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: what you want to do. So I just don't want 758 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: you to feel like you had to be like, but 759 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to put it on something else or whatever, like, 760 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: don't feel like you have to, because I feel like 761 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: you do that a lot to like save face and 762 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: to be codependent, and like you don't have to say 763 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: that if you don't truly want to, because then it 764 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: makes me feel like you're just doing it to like 765 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: appease me. And I don't. I don't like, I don't 766 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: want that because then I feel like that comes back 767 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: at me and I'm like, but I didn't even say anything. 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So it's kind of making me 830 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: sad right now that as you guys saw an instagram 831 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, now that Jess is walking. Yeah, 832 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, I remember my mom 833 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: always telling me I don't remember what age I was, 834 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: but she was just like, stay this age forever, like 835 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: stay four, stay seven, whatever age I was. No, I'm 836 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: growing up, mom. And now with Jason, I'm like, I 837 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: want him to stay like eleven months for like six 838 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: more months. Believe he's almost one. I wanted to stay 839 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: that age for like six more months, like crawling and 840 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: just he's just he's the most intentional little kid. He's 841 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: very kind. He is a kind, kind soul, such a 842 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: good little boy. He's yeah, he's like I can't even 843 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: talk about hi, I'm gonna cry because he's just like 844 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: he's my boy. The way the way he even plays cars. 845 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: You'all can't see it listening, but he'll just be like this, 846 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: like very delicate, very he's his two fingers and he pushes. 847 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: It's so solid. He's just like staring at it with 848 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: such intent, and that's how he is when he stares 849 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: at people. He's just like intentionally. He just I feel 850 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: like you can feel his kind soul, Like I don't 851 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: want to have a boy unless he's like that. Honestly, sorry, 852 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: he's the best because I just want like a sweet 853 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: little like like imagine if he was like a wild 854 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he will get he'll have he'll have 855 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: those moments. But now that he is standing and like walking, 856 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: Janna is just foaming at the mouth because now she 857 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: can start dressing him in like super spat, like drop crotch, camo, 858 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, Beanie half on, like all of that and 859 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: Jolie um. I got an email from her speech therapist 860 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: her speech sound skills are now with the normal limits 861 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: for her age, so she might be able to graduate 862 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: by the end of the year or beginning. I know 863 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: she's she's so sweet. It's a crazy, crazy age. I 864 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: feel like one and I feel like four. Hopefully we'll 865 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: get easier because three was really challenging with her, and 866 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: I feel like it was like three new babies because 867 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: they're so close. You had Jason then her birthday was 868 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: a month later. She's such, she's a good she's so cute. 869 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: Nobody can entertain Jace like Jolie. Yeah best. I know. 870 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: He's getting to the age now where if she takes 871 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: his toy, she he he doesn't cry, but when she 872 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: he when she grabs his truck, it's like it sounds 873 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: like he is in so much pain. Like he's understanding now, 874 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: like like when you take something away from it. But 875 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: maybe when he's like when he can walk and he 876 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: can follow her around and he can like he's going 877 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: to be her little doll, like she's going to dress 878 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: him up. Ty has traumatizing stories. He's like plenty used 879 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: to dress me up as snow Why and Cinderella. But 880 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: they were like best friends. They are they That's what 881 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: I loved most when I met Ty. I loved talk. 882 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, you guys are best friends. 883 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: And I love how close there. And I feel like 884 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: that would be good for Jay's to have like a 885 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: big sister who's really close to because then it's like 886 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: he's going to try and date all her friends. Oh yeah, 887 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: they're close enough in the age, Yeah, they're all they're 888 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: so cute. So get this real quick though, So for 889 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: all those out there maybe in the Chicago area that 890 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: are going to our Chicago show. So you know how 891 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: like comedians do like a special and they have filmed 892 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: documented We're going to do that for the Chicago show. No, well, 893 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: that's what we want to try to do. We're gonna 894 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: make it happen because now I've just started sweating. No, 895 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm ready rang. Oh yeah, like documentary style, like during 896 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: the day for all of us and then during the 897 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: show walk out. There's gonna be one the audience. So Chicago, 898 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna make it happen. Y'all got to bring it. 899 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: Chicago is going to be I don't care if me 900 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: and all however many hundred of you, we need to 901 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: take shots together some wait, how many hundreds are there? 902 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: Several sold out? I know I already have the nervous piece. 903 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: I get the nervous in Michigan is the next day. 904 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: Tickets are still available, and so is UM Louisville. Go 905 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: to UM continue Well, yeah, you go to Jane Cramer 906 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: dot com for the tickets or UM just go to 907 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: like UM Royal Oac Theater for Michigan tickets. So Chicago, 908 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: I know it's sold out, but you guys can easily 909 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: just drive it just easily, just a couple of hours 910 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: drive to Michigan. Is um? Is this your hometown in Michigan? 911 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: Very close? It's not like home hometown, but it's quarters. 912 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: Like like a bunch of people from like high school 913 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: going to be there. I would be all my high 914 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: school girlfriends are coming, which I'm really excited about because 915 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them in a long time. Do some 916 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: high school enemies? Uh, friend of God, Yeah, I really 917 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: would love to talk to the girl that put me 918 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: at the UM. I was one of the targets for 919 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: the what are those things called when we used to 920 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: play football? But it wasn't called Potter, prof it was 921 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: called UM. I don't know what you'll do. I don't 922 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: remember what was called, but it it wasn't called Potter. But 923 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: I found out there was a list. It was like 924 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: a kill list basically, and I was on it. I 925 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: was on it because you were ready, Okay, you were, 926 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: but I wasn't. I wasn't the pretty girl. I was 927 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: like Lisa and Ashley, those are the pretty girls. There 928 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: are gonna be so many people from your high school. 929 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: I just need you to know. I know you don't 930 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: think so what there are. I don't know. It's gonna 931 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: be fun. And it's going to be my brother's coming, 932 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: my aunt's, uncle's like dad, mom of them. So fun. Yeah, 933 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: look at me now, which is that is? It's gonna 934 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: be wild. I'm so excited. Um, and you just turned 935 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: twenty nine. How does it feel. I'm just happy. I 936 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: have a ring. To be honest, thirties the best thirties 937 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: are the best. So I'm so chin to keep saying 938 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: like we're so excited for because like we're getting married, 939 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: We're both going to be turning thirty next year, hopefully 940 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: I'll be working on a baby, and I just feel 941 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be the best year ever, and I 942 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: like for everyone. Yeah, it's good. And nine is our 943 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: number this year for sure. I'm excited. All right, guys, 944 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: good show show. This is fine. Um, we will wind 945 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: down with you guys later. I need to boom boo, 946 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: boo boo. We have a few minutes. Funny, that's funny.