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We are live on AMP. 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Don't forget if you're watching this on YouTube or on 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: one of our podcast feeds, that AMP is the very 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: first place that you guys can get these shows. We 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: have a jam Pack show today. We're bringing my guy 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Carson on and we're gonna hit five big questions around 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the league, just like we did last week. You guys 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: seem to like that, obviously. I always love talking basketball 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: with Carson. We're gonna be hitting on a ton of teams. 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: That incredible offensive explosion between the Dallas Mavericks and the 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six ers. We're gonna talk a little bit 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: about what's wrong with the Los Angeles Clippers, and then 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna hit some Eastern Conference teams, a lot of 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: Celtics a lot of bucks of the New York Nicks 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: on a seven game winning streak with some impressive wins, 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: and we're talking a little bit of the Warriors as well. 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: You guys know the drill before we get started. Subscribe 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: to the Volumes YouTube channels so you don't miss any 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at Underscore 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: Jason lt. So you guys don't fit us, So you 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: guys don't miss any show announcements. And then, last but 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: not least, for whatever reason, you guys miss one of 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: these shows and you can't get back over to YouTube 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: to finish. Don't forget. You can find them wherever you 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Under Hoops tonight, all right, let's bring 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: my guy Carson on. Carson, what's up man? I'm excited 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: to talk some basketball with you man, as am. I 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: grate to be back on as always, And as you said, 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna start by talking about a really exciting game 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: that we saw last night between the Sixers and the MAVs. 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Dallas ended up winning one thirty three one twenty six. 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: We saw forty plus from both Luca and Kyrie. Who 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: do you think that game said? More about Jason Philly 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: or Dallas, So I'm probably gonna go a direction that 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: you guys won't expect. I feel like that game was 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: the perfect encapsulation of what this season would look like 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Mavericks. I've said a lot over the 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: course of their struggles here since Kyrie and Luca have 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: been playing together that I think that their limitations in 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: front court size and personnel, just defensive personnel, dirty work 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: personnel in general, are going to make it so that 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie have to be out of their minds 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: offensively to give them any chance to beat good teams. 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: And make no mistake, it was an impressive win yesterday, 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: but that was the high end of the shot variants 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: equation there. They shot fifty two percent from three fifty 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: five percent from the field. Luca and Kyrie seemingly made 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: every single one of their difficult pull up jump shots 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: there was. There was just an element of shot result 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: there that I don't think you can dependably count on. 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear, I'm not trying to 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: shape this entire Kyrie trade around this topic, because that 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: particular move was made in a way that made it 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: extremely difficult for them to contend within this season because 81 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: of the way it depleted them. I'll give you an example. 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: When the Lakers made the trade for Anthony Davis, they 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: gave up everything, like literally everything. Every good basketball player 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: on the team that was not named Lebron James went 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: out the door. But they had a full off season 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: to target players that would compliment them and to fill 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: the specific holes they would need with that particular pairing. 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: And again, it's gonna be a little tougher for Dallas 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to work more on the margins 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: in terms of like the mid level exception and maybe 91 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: a trade here there. They've got a few draft picks 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: they can use, but this summer they'll be able to 93 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: go into it with, Hey, this is our core. We've 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: got Kyrie and Luca. Let's put you know, this specific 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: type of personnel. You know, I think they can forego 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: some offensive skill set with the role players and prioritize 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: defense just because of the level of offensive skill that 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie have. But last night it would concern 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: me because they could not have possibly played better offensively 100 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: and Philly was still hanging tough, like even when they 101 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: threw that punch to start the third quarter, right there 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the third early fourth, they got 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: cold for a little bit and Philly was back into 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: it like that. So I do think that that was 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: a little bit concerning. I don't know that they'll be 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: able to shoot that well to beat any good team 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: four times out of seven. What do you think. I 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: really like the angle that you've taken here. I mean, 109 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: this is, in a lot of ways an encapsulation of 110 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks experience this year. It was one of 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the best collective backcourt performances I can remember in my life, 112 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: and through three quarters it was like the MAVs were 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: effectively playing perfect offensive basketball just because of unbelievable pull 114 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: up jump shooting from Luca and Kyrie, who were a 115 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: combined I think thirteen of twenty in this game or 116 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: something like that's absurd from beyond the arc, and then 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: their ability to get the defense in rotation and to 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: find shooters who were unbelievable. I mean, they were twenty 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: five or forty eight from deep in this game. We 120 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: know that's what they're capable of. At the same time, 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: there's a reason that they're four and five since Kyrie's debut, 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: and that reason is that they're twenty fifth and defensive 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: rating and they have maxie Klibaback, now, which is nice. 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: He does. I mean, he is their best defensive option 125 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: in multiple situations. He's the best guy for them to 126 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: go small ball five, certainly against a lot of big wings. 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: He's their best option. But as you said, he's not 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: enough to correct just a glaring deficiency in terms of 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: front court in overall defensive talents. So this is why 130 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't view them as a legitimate contender this year. 131 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: It's as you said, they have to be perfect offensively 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to beat good teams, and I just don't think it's sustainable. 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie may be the most talented scoring back 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: or we've ever seen, but bottom line, they can't score 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: forty plus every night, and you can't trust Reggie Bullock 136 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: in the supporting cast to shoot as well as they did. 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: What I will say on the Philly front is I 138 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: don't think there's as much to take away. This isn't 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: as much of like a quintessential wow, look at the 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: highs and the lows as it is for the MAVs. 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: This was, though, I thought, a good point for the 142 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: argument that you have made many times about the value 143 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of bigs being diminished in today's NBA because of their 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: exploitability defensively, and I thought that's why the MAVs had 145 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: such a great offensive game. Of course, shop making, right, 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: you have to make twenty five or forty eight threes, 147 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: but man, a lot of those forty eight threes were 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: wide open because of their repeated exploitation of Joel Embiid 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: in space. Whether it's not a pick and roll him 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: dropping them shooting right over that, or if it's just 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: his inability to recovering contest shooters at all. I mean, 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: and Beid got embarrassed in this game, and that's why. 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Obviously he's a great rim protector, but he is in 154 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of ways exploitable defensively, like a well, I'm 155 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: not gonna bring up yok, but you know right, he's 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: not the kind of complete, great defensive big man that 157 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: like a Jaren Jackson junior is. So I don't think 158 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: it's any coincidence that the six or seventeen old run 159 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: they got them right back into this game was them 160 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: going smaller and beat on the bench Paul read out 161 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: there because they could finally actually guard a five out offense. 162 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: So I don't think that Dallas is gonna face enough 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: teams that have that sort of exploitable center, and who 164 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: are I mean, really, it's Yoki's right who they could 165 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: go out in a playoff series, but I think Yoki 166 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: just too complete offensively and the Nuggets are too good 167 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: offensively and better defensively than the MAVs. So I don't 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: think that that matchup exploitation is enough for them to 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: like make it through. But it does show you that, man, 170 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play a traditional big out there, the 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: MAVs can absolutely kill you. And it also says I 172 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: think the Sixers are lucky that there isn't really that 173 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of insane pull up jump shooting team out east. 174 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: In that same way, because the mav scored thirty two 175 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: points in the paint and they scored one hundred and 176 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: thirty three points, it doesn't matter that Joel Embiid is 177 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: a force in there. They're not even going in there. 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: They're just shooting right over and they're going around him 179 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: over and over again. So that would probably my big takeaway, 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: on top of what you already touched on, that's a 181 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: super interesting element that I haven't really even thought about. 182 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: And I'm really glad you brought that up, Like matchups 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: are everything in the NBA playoffs, and you're right, like 184 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: Boston is not a good pull up jump shooting team, 185 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: Miami's not a good pull up jump shooting team. The 186 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Waukee's not a good pull up jump shooting team. They're like, really, 187 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the only team that would be capable of consistently get 188 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: causing Philly problems in that type of situation is Cleveland, 189 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll face them. I think I 190 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: think it's an extremely low percentage chance that they'll end 191 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: up in that type of matchup. Now that that could 192 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: be a problem when they get out of the Eastern 193 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Conference for sure, but it is super interesting how that 194 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: matchup element has to be factored in. I want to 195 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: give Embiat some credit, like some of it was shot making, 196 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Like I mean, Luca hit a couple of step back 197 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: thories on Joel that he contested really well, it's not 198 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: so much even to me. It was the drop coverage 199 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: in rotation, drawing that second defender and then easily getting 200 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: wide open shots on the back line. That is a 201 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: consistent problem we see with drop coverage bigs, with their 202 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: inability to be impactful in pick and roll defensively when 203 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: they have to really come out from the rim. And again, 204 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: that's just been one of my fundamental basketball ideologies forever. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: It's why I've always had Embeat and Yokich kind of 206 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: further behind the perimeter guys that we have around the league. 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: It's not that I don't see their value. I think 208 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: it's more just a product of the way the game 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: of basketball has changed, and just the sheer amount of 210 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: footspeed and offensive skill on the floor and the way 211 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: those things can be exploited really quickly. Before we move 212 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: on on the Dallas front, you know this idea, you know, 213 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: I've always said pull up because we're gonna We're gonna 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: have a very similar conversation here in a minute about 215 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: the Clippers. Pull Up shooting is monumentally important as a 216 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: playoff skill, as like a ceiling raiser, But in my opinion, 217 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: it cannot be your foundational ability as a basketball team. 218 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: You have to have an identity that extends into the 219 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: physicality areas of the game, whether that's you're an excellent 220 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: defensive team or you're a team on offense that can 221 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: relentlessly punish the rim. Because those things can be depended 222 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: on on a night in, night out basis in the 223 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: postseason in a way that pull up jump shooting cannot. 224 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: I mean, last year the Brooklyn Nets are the perfect example. 225 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: They were by far the best pull up jump shooting 226 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: team in the league. Kyra Irving and Kevin Durant, We're 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: damn near fifty percent on pull up jump shots through 228 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: that entire regular season. And then they got into Boston 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: and suddenly their pull up jump shooting dropped into the 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: mid thirties and that was their only identity. Suddenly they 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: got swept. And so I think that's just something that 232 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: we can learn from these teams, is that, like we 233 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: have to look at that high level skill as a 234 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: ceiling raiser and it cannot be a foundational skill, which 235 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: we'll get into a little bit more here With the Clippers, 236 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I agree with that point completely, and I think it's 237 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: something that we've seen bite the Clippers in meaningful situations 238 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: the couple times that we have seen them in the playoffs, 239 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: and now they've got bigger problems than just pull up 240 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: jump shooting there oh and four with Russell Westbrook, they 241 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: continue to slide in that fight for the five six 242 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: seven spot that they're in with Golden State in Dallas. So, Jason, 243 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Clippers and how concerned are you? 244 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: So there's several problems in my opinion, I used to 245 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: say this a lot about the Lakers, but when you're 246 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: underachieving to this extent, when you have that kind of 247 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: talent on the roster, it's usually a bunch of different things. 248 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I want to be clear here upfront too, because we're 249 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: not going to talk a lot about Russ today. I 250 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: don't think Russ is the problem with this recent losing streak. 251 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I think he's played fine. I think his good has 252 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: outweighed his bad at least to some extent. He had 253 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: a rough second half last night, and he wasn't too 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: great in the second half against Denver. But for the 255 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: most part in his shifts, he's been I think a 256 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: positive impact player, and he's been a decent fit. I 257 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: think there's a I think there's a couple of key problems, 258 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and the one I want to focus on here to 259 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: start is that exact same thing we were just talking 260 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: about with the Dallas Mavericks. Did you know that the 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clippers are twenty ninth in points in the 262 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: paint scored. So like, I think this is a basketball 263 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: concept that we lose sight of all the time, where 264 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: it's like we'll see Marcus Morris as like the seventh 265 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: best player on the Clippers or whatever, hit like a 266 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: really nifty pull up jump shot in the middle of 267 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: the lane, and then you'll see Norman Powell like like 268 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: come off of a dribble handoff and rise up and 269 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: knockdown at three, and then obviously everything that Paul George 270 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: and Kawhi Leonard can do off the dribble, and you 271 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: go like, man, this team just has an insane amount 272 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: of offensive skill. And they do, but once again, the 273 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,359 Speaker 1: vast majority of that offensive skill is predicated on perimeter 274 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: ball handling and perimeter shooting. They do not have a 275 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: downhill presence. They well, they do with Russ Now, but 276 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to weaponize that yet. They do 277 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: not have a consistent paint presence. And that to me 278 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: goes back to our conversation from the beginning, if you're 279 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: not otherworldly defensively, which we Strangely enough, the Clippers have 280 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: not been very good defensively as of late after they 281 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: were great to start the season. I think there's another 282 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: conversation to have about being too wing heavy, because as 283 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: much as wings can help in a bunch of versatility 284 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: type situations, they are not great at the point of attack. Typically, 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: like there is a making no mistake, there's still a 286 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: place for guards in the NBA. Guards are very quick, 287 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: they have low centers of gravity, they can slide their feet, 288 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: and they can contain ball handlers. There's a point where 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: you have too many guards on the floor and suddenly 290 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: you're you start to lose other areas of the game. 291 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: But you do need to have the ability to contain 292 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: ball handlers on the perimeter. There are a lot of 293 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: guys in the Clippers rotation that are are lengthy and 294 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: tall and skilled and can shoot, but do not have 295 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: quick feet, and that causes them problems getting caught in 296 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: rotation on the defensive end of the floor. So they 297 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: do not have that high end defensive ceiling we're hoping for, 298 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and offensively, they don't have an identity that lives in 299 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: the paint that they can rely on. So really with 300 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the Clippers, it's like, are they hitting their perimeter shots 301 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: and they haven't been as of late, and you've seen 302 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: them losing as a result. And the last thing I 303 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: want to say is just Paul George in his last 304 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: nineteen games, twenty one points per game, forty six percent 305 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: from the field, thirty six percent from three, not a 306 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: minute's restriction thing. He's playing thirty four minutes a night. 307 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: He's not getting to the ram. Norman Powell is averaging 308 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: more restricted area makes than Paul George over that span. 309 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: His shot selection in general has been really just shitty. 310 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: In my opinion, He's just taken a lot of really 311 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: difficult off the dribble jump shots is just a part 312 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: of his normal shot diet. The way I look at it, 313 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: he had that interview with JJ Reddick and he's like, oh, yeah, 314 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm comfortable sliding into the second role, and 315 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: like I admire the psychology of that, like the selflessness 316 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: and all that and the willingness to buy in. But 317 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: the reality is is that's not how basketball works anymore. 318 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: Like you can have two sometimes even three as long 319 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: as their complimentary skill sets go to guys, like there's 320 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: no reason for you to have to withhold things offensively. 321 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: And Paul George is not being the aggressive, assertive superstar 322 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: that he's capable of being, and it's actually hurting the 323 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: team right now. And in the twenty twenty one playoffs 324 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: when he took them to the ceiling that he did 325 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: nearly making the finals without Kawhi Leonard, he was a 326 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: relentless rim attacker that used his pull up jump shooting 327 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: as a counter to that, and that has completely flipped 328 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: on its head, and I think has led to a 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: lot of his recent struggles. So they've got a lot 330 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: of things wrong with him, But I think in large 331 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: part it starts right now with offensive approach being perimeter 332 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: first as opposed to paint first. I think that's a 333 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: great point that you make about PG and that has 334 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: that many times been like the determining factor in what 335 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: Paul George are gonna get. Are we gonna get Paul George, 336 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: who sure is a great pull up jump shooter but 337 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: is settling consistently, or are we gonna get eight free 338 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: throws a game downhill force, therefore enhancing his playmaking impact. Two. 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: That's the best Paul George when he blends those two, 340 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: And I agree he hasn't done that well enough recently. 341 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there's a lot of concerns with 342 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: this team, and I agree completely with your reliance on 343 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: pull up jump shooting and overall jumpshooting. Point, we have 344 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: seen to a t the Clippers manufacturer at least the 345 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: first couple of years of the KAUAIPG pairing all time 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: regular season offenses, all time shooting teams, and then in 347 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: the three playoffs series they've won, they've shot about forty 348 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: percent from deep. In the two playoff series they've lost, 349 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: they were under thirty four percent from deep in both. 350 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: It's like there isn't a counter, there isn't an alternative, 351 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: There isn't a Hey, we can have a Lebron just 352 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: impose as well in the game and get downhill over 353 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: and over again, eat up sixteen free throws right create 354 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: shots for others by being in the pain, attacking the 355 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: paint they don't have. So I agree that is a 356 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: big problem that this team is facing. I will say, though, 357 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about the defensive regression that we've seen 358 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: from them since January first. They're twenty third in defensive rating, 359 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: and I do not think these small ball lineups that 360 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: they're trotting out are tenable in playoff situations. I think, 361 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: as you said, they've lost something at the point of attack. 362 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Like I think even Pat bev Right was an upgrade 363 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: compared to anything that they have on this roster in 364 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: terms of guarding, like dynamic guards. And so if you're 365 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: putting Russ out there, who is not a good defender, 366 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: and now with Russ out there as well, I will 367 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: say I do think that he hurts this team. Like, yes, 368 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: he has played well in a vacuum. When he has 369 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, he's been good, I'll say, 370 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: because he has so much space to work with here, 371 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: he's attacking open paints, he is shooting all around him. Yeah, 372 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: there's been some turnovers. Yeah, he's been baited into some 373 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: mid range pull ups that aren't great, But overall he's 374 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: been productive there. The problem is when you look at 375 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: down the stretch in that King's game, or when you 376 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: look at late in this Warriors game and teams literally 377 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: are not guarding him because he shoots thirty point seven 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: percent on wide open threes. Now you have a guy 379 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: who's completely ineffective away from the ball. His athleticism is 380 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: playmaking doesn't matter because he doesn't even have the opportunity 381 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: to get downhill because nobody's guarding him. Like that, to me, 382 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: is just really problematic when you also don't have good 383 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: enough defensive personnel. Overall that Yokis matchup, they were fronting 384 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: him the entire game, and he gave him a forty 385 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: point triple double. Like I just think there's too many 386 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: flaws here to consider them a legitimate contender. What we've 387 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: talked about offensively, I do think the rust fit bottom line, 388 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: in crunch time minutes, you don't want a decision making liability. 389 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: You don't want him taking the ball out of the 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: hands of Peg and Kauai, and he's a liability away 391 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: from the ball, and yet we've still seen Tyler play 392 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: him in crunchtime minutes in three of these four games. 393 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot to be concerned about 394 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: with LA and I do not see them as a 395 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: top like contender. I think they get out physical in 396 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot of matchups. I think their pull up shooting 397 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: reliance hurts them, and I don't think their defense is 398 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: good enough. We've just seen a lot of regression there. 399 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: So you had some Warriors points you wanted to hit 400 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: on from this game. They're now better than five hundred 401 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: without Steph this year and have had a couple of 402 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: incredible third quarters just this week, So what's your take 403 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: on them? So really quickly, I just want to say, 404 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: I do agree with what you're saying about Russ, But 405 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: to me, that's the late game situation, which is what 406 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: I've been saying this whole time. Don't play him in 407 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: those specific situations, and then you can benefit from the 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: positives without as many of the negatives. I will say, though, 409 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: their offense has struggled just as much when he's been 410 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: off the floor. So that's particularly why I've been defensive 411 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: of him in this particular situation, is like he has 412 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: been brought in to assist in specific areas and they're 413 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: struggling everywhere else, and so he's becoming like the easy 414 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: narrative target in this particular situation. So I you know, 415 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: and as far as the Clippers as a threat, I 416 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree. They cannot beat Denver, which means 417 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: they need an extremely fortunate path to get out of 418 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: the conference, which would would then in turn expect them 419 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: to beat all of those particular teams, which I don't 420 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: necessarily think they would. So I view them like in 421 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: that tier with like Memphis and Cleveland and teams that 422 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: are like interesting and talented, but don't really have that 423 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: much of a significant chance to win the title. So 424 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I just wanted to really quick shout out Steve Kerr 425 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: because you know, he went jankie last night with Draymond 426 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Green just completely blatantly ignoring Russell Westbrook sitting down in 427 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: the paint. And then a couple nights ago against Portland, 428 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and I actually misinterpreted this in my first rewatch. I 429 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: was watching and I was so hyper focused on Kavan 430 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Looney and Draymond Green operating on the back end that 431 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a three two zone. It actually 432 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: was a box in one. Shout out to some of 433 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: the people in the comments on our video that corrected 434 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: me on that the boxing one is a super janky 435 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: thing that you might not be able to get away 436 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: with seven times in a series, but it helps you 437 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: win that one game in a must win situation with 438 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: Steph Curry out Andrew Wiggins out a that is a 439 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: regular season just outwitting your opponent and finding a way 440 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: to get a win when you're down twenty something against 441 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the decent talented team in Portland. And then last night, 442 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: same thing. Like I thought before that game that the 443 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Warriors had little to no chance of winning because of 444 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: how much talent the Clippers do have and how desperate 445 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: the Clippers were for a win, and then their perimeter 446 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: size advantages that they have over the Warriors, and I 447 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: was I was flat out wrong and incredibly impressed with 448 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: the way the Warriors grind it out a just literally 449 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: a chess match type of win. And what I appreciated 450 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: so often during the regular season, you'll see coaches just 451 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: stick with their base scheme because they almost look at 452 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: each game as effectively a practice and they're trying to 453 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: build like habits and tendencies for the postseason. And what 454 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate about what Steve Kerr has done is he's like, nah, 455 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: screw that we have ground to make up in the standings. 456 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: This is playoff basketball from out till the end of 457 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: the season. We are coaching every single game as if 458 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: it is a must win situation. Now, Steph Curry's coming 459 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: back on Sunday against the Lakers, so they can probably 460 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: slide back into a more traditional model from there. But 461 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: I just to me, that is that level of like 462 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: absolute commitments to making the stretch run that you like 463 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: to see, and it's making me want to put the 464 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Warriors up on that top tier of contenders, which we'll 465 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: talk about here in this next question. I agree completely. 466 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: There's been urgency, it's been really fun to watch, and 467 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: the battle for seating for them does matter. It could 468 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: be the difference between playing the Kings in the first 469 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: round and the Nuggets if you fall into that play 470 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: and you know, you lose your first playing game, or 471 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: of course you can miss the playoffs entirely. I don't 472 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: think that'd be likely, but it's possible. So it's been 473 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: very fun and the Dubs are looking better for sure. 474 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: The NBA season is heating up, and now is the 475 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: perfect time to download fan Duel, America's number one sports 476 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: book because new customers get a no sweat first bet 477 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: up to one thousand dollars. 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I think they're gonna beat the 487 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Sixers handile, so I'll take the Bucks minus five and 488 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: a half on Saturday night. So don't miss the chance 489 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to get your no Sweat first bet up to one 490 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in bonus bets when you go to FanDuel 491 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: dot com slash Jason T. That's FanDuel dot com slash 492 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Jason T to learn more. And if you're in Massachusetts, 493 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: get ready because fanduels come in soon. 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Given that, should they be 499 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: the title favorites, I think so, I think again, Like 500 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: I had them as my second favorite coming into the season. 501 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about Golden Stay here 502 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: in the second My main skepticism there is just their 503 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: playoff path and just how difficult the next few months 504 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: are going to be in just what that means for 505 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: an old veteran team that has some guys that have 506 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: been in and out of the lineup this year. But 507 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: in terms of every team, when you factor in their 508 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: current predicament in the standings and what they look like 509 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: as a basketball team, the Bucks check the most boxes. 510 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: They are the number one defense in the league. They 511 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: have the best player in the league in my opinion, 512 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: and Janis. They have championship pedigree, so they know what 513 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: it takes at every single level. They've experienced the pain 514 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: of loss and the joy of the final goal. They 515 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: understand that up and down nature of the NBA playoffs. 516 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Their half court offense has actually been pretty good. That's 517 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: been one of the big knocks on the Bucks throughout 518 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: the regular season, but this season, when Chris Middleton, Drew Holiday, 519 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: and Janis are on the floor together, they have one 520 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: hundred and one offensive rating in the half court, which 521 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: is fine. It's perfectly fine. It's not Denver with Yokitchen, 522 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: Murray and Porter, but it's a good half court offense, 523 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: good enough. They're spot up shooting and spot up a 524 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: close out attacking has improved. They're all the way up 525 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: to twelfth in the league for the whole season now, 526 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: which was one of their biggest weaknesses early on. Shout 527 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: out to Joe Engles, Shout out to Chris Middleton coming 528 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: back and helping in that specific department. And I think 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: out of all of the teams that we consider top 530 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: tier contenders or really anybody that we consider to be 531 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a potential contender, I think they're the best equipped team 532 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: in the league to win rock fights. And way too 533 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: often we see these games a Denni grate down into 534 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: rock fights when everyone My favorite example of this was 535 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: the other night when Philly was playing Miami, where like 536 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: even the skill players on the floor completely lose their 537 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: jump shot just because the game is so physical and 538 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: everyone's at a rhythm and it's just super disjointed, and 539 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, do you have a guy that can 540 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: just barrel into four people and make a layup? Oh? Heait? 541 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler did, and Philly didn't, and so they ended 542 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: up losing, right Like, I think Milwaukee's uniquely equipped for 543 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: those specific types of battles. So I think that that 544 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: inherently puts them as my championship favorite right now. I 545 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: do only have Boston as the other top team in 546 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: that tier, but I am extremely tempted to put Golden 547 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: State back in that tier. They beat another good team 548 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: last night without their two best players. They're in kind 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: of in a sneaky good position in the standings with 550 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: an outside chance of getting especially if they can kind 551 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: of time things out to get the sixth seed to 552 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: catch Sacramento in the first round. I really like how 553 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: that would line up for them going Sacramento, Memphis, Denver, 554 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: or whoever is in the one seed through the rest 555 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: of the conference. They also check I think as we're 556 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: going down boxes, I think they check the most boxes 557 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: out of the Western Conference teams. Like I do think 558 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: Steph is a better playoff player than Nickel Yokich. I 559 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: think they're a better defensive team when they're completely healthy 560 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: and put together. With Andrew Wiggins healthy and playing like 561 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: the top tier perimeter defender that he is, I think 562 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: they're better defensively. I think they've got more experience. I'm 563 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: just extremely tempted to put them back in that tier. 564 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: And Denver is starting to fall back off on the 565 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: defensive end. They have started to let go the rope. 566 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: They're just a little bit. They've slipped down to fourteenth 567 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: in the league after getting up very close to getting 568 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: into that top ten. But I will say this, if 569 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Golden State keeps winning at the way they're right they're winning, 570 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: they could end up falling into a Phoenix matchup in 571 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: the first round, and that could be extreme. Well, first 572 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: of all, extremely interesting for us because can you imagine 573 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant with his newest super team versus the Golden 574 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: State Warriors in a seven game series in the first round. 575 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: It just be incredible for us. So I wouldn't be 576 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: surprised if they try to kind of meander their way 577 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: down to the sixth seed, just because that's a much 578 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: easier playoff path. But again, when I'm comparing that to 579 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks, it's just so much more has to go 580 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: right for Golden State. And then with Boston, I still 581 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: have some concerns about their execution on the playoff stage. 582 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: So I think Milwaukee's the safest bed. I agree, and 583 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: this is the side that I've been on. I also 584 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: agree that it is still a top tier of Boston 585 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: and Milwaukee. I think they're honestly two of the most 586 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: talented teams of this century. I do like Golden State 587 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: a lot, and the depth has also come along with them, right, 588 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Devincenzo for twenty plus games has been great. 589 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Kamingo's looked his best, you know, He's not necessarily battle 590 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: tests that are polished for that stage, but improving. So 591 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I still think though it comes down to me basically 592 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: to a faith in Yannis versus Tatum in a lot 593 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: of ways, I think both of these rosters are absolutely loaded, 594 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: having incredibly high two way ceilings. But I think you 595 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: put it well, the rock fight environment, the hey, I 596 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: will get mine no matter what right you can build, 597 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: the wall, you can double me relentlessly. I might not 598 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: even have, as we saw last year, my best perimeter 599 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: shotmaker on the floor. I'll get my thirty four and 600 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: seven with solid efficiency and dominate the game. On the 601 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: other end of the floor, that's Yannis. And when both 602 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: these teams have great supporting casts, I have to favor 603 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: that over sometimes decision making, liability, sometimes over really relying 604 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: on the jump shot, the difficult shot making that may 605 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: not go his way. With Tatum, I do think that 606 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: that does matter when again, both these teams are so 607 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: strong top to bottom, and I think the ingles and 608 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: the crowder editions on the wings are hugely important. I 609 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: think this Bucks team is better than the team that 610 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: won the title, and they're gonna have a tougher path. 611 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I think Boston's better than anybody who they played in 612 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: that run, and they might have to face Philly two 613 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: right before they even get out of the East. Like, 614 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: that's a really, really tough path. This is the best 615 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: top three out East of this century too, I would 616 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: confidently say. But I do believe that they're cut out 617 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: for it. They have an elite shooting ceiling. They are 618 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: going to be elite defensively. They have a three headed 619 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: monster at the top with the best player alive, and 620 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: they have great depth on the wings that can be physical. 621 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: They're big, they have dynamic shot making. I think that 622 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: they have it all and Boston has a lot of 623 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: it too. But yeah, that Yannis, that physicality factor does 624 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: mane lean Milwaukee. Okay, let's talk about another team out East. 625 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: It has been really the second hottest in the league 626 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: as of late, and that is the New York Knicks, 627 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: who will continue to climb in those standings up to 628 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: the five seed now and creating separation with the rest 629 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: of that field. Out East. What's their ceiling? Jason, how 630 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: seriously should we take them? You know, everything comes down 631 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: to Julius Randall and Jalen Brunson, as I've been saying 632 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: all season, and you know, during this seven game winning streak, 633 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: it really is this simple. They're doing all the same 634 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: things they've done all season, but Julius Randall and Jalen 635 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Brunson have produced like superstars on the offensive end of 636 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the floor during this stretch. All year long, They've been 637 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: a pretty good defense, not a great defense. I kind 638 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: of look at them like the Memphis of the Eastern 639 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: Conference from the standpoint of like their physical profile, like 640 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: they are going to kill you on the rebound, on 641 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: the glass, on both ends of the floor, They're going 642 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: to be a good defensive team. They don't have that 643 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: same defensive ceiling as Memphis. But honestly, Mitchell Robinson starting 644 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: to flash some of that high level shot blocking and 645 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: rim protection that you get from a Jaren Jackson. So 646 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: you're starting to see a little bit of that. But 647 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: they've always struggled when the game slows down. They haven't 648 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: been a great half court team on either end of 649 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: the floor. They've got too many entry points on offense, 650 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: and when they're on offense, their stars are somewhat limited, right, 651 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: but during this specific stretch, those stars have been incredible. 652 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: During the seven game winning streak, they're seventh in defense. 653 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: What you would expect, best rebounding percentage in the league 654 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: by mile, over fifty five percent of available rebounds. But 655 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: both Jalen Brunson and Julius Randall Brunson twenty eight points 656 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: per game on fifty three percent from the field forty 657 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: three percent from three, Julius Randall twenty seven seven and 658 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: four on forty nine percent from the field thirty nine 659 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: percent from three. And suddenly they're super tough to beat. 660 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: And then they've been just racking up the wins, back 661 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: to back road wins in Atlanta and Washington, which are 662 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: not easy. I mean that they're not great teams, but 663 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: they're not easy wins to get. Then they come home, 664 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: they eat the shit out of the Pelicans, and then 665 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: they got the signature win against Boston, which I watched yesterday, 666 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: albeit without Jaylen Brown. But Julius Rando just came right 667 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: out the gates and was gunning over the top with 668 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: pull up shooting from three and was knocking shots down. 669 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson was locking down the paint and now Boston 670 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: was missing a lot of their open threes in that 671 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: particular game. But I always, I always want to give 672 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: some of the credit for that sort of shot result 673 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: to physical teams, because lyft is a huge part of 674 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: jump shot result, And when you're battling the best rebounding 675 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: team in the league and they're you know, beating up 676 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: and playing physical on the defensive end of the floor, 677 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: I do believe that sort of thing directly leads to 678 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: shot result in some cases. But that's not to say, like, 679 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: obviously I'd picked Boston over New York in a series. 680 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: But the point is is like when they defend that 681 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: way and they rebound that way and they get superstar 682 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: level production out of their stars, they suddenly become very good. 683 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: Now the question what is their ceiling. It's entirely up 684 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: to those two guys. If they are efficient twenty seven 685 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: point per game scorers in the playoffs, they can beat anyone, 686 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: end of story. But the reality is is, you know, 687 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs notoriously exposed basketball players for who they 688 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: really are. And my guests as to what will happen 689 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: is that when they get into the postseason and the 690 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: physicality ratchets up and the defense is ratchet up another level, 691 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: that they'll come back down to their realistic level, which 692 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: is low twenty point per game scoring on moderate efficiency, 693 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: and I think from there they'll have some issues. But 694 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: last thing I'll say, I you know, it's kind of 695 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: shaping up with the way the standings are coming along, 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: that they might end up facing the Calves in that 697 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: first round series. I give the Knicks a real chance 698 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: to win that series. I think the Calves are an 699 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: extremely flawed team on their own, and I think specifically 700 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: their flaws play into New York strengths, especially with the 701 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: Tom Tivotau and his ability to ignore shooting to help 702 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: around the paint, and the way that's going to make 703 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: things difficult with Cleveland in their lack of front court 704 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: offensive skill. So I give them a puncher's chance, a 705 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: real chance that I'd say, I'd have to think about it. 706 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: I might even pick the Knicks to win that series, 707 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: but I would give them no chance to beat Boston. 708 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, as we're discussing, as we're discussing their ceiling, 709 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that that is shaping 710 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: up to be a really interesting looking series, because I 711 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: do think that there are clear advantages that the Knicks 712 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: have right significantly better depth, better wings, and as you said, 713 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: when they have that dynamic star tandem, then they can 714 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: easily go toe to toe with Cleveland. I mean, they 715 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: may not have the defensive ceiling, but they have other 716 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: things that can compensate for that. Outside of that, though, yeah, 717 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: I really don't think just because of how good the 718 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: top of the East is, there's any world in which 719 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: I can see the Knicks making like a conference finals run. 720 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: They are so much better than the team two years 721 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: ago that everybody, I think really overhyped, like that was 722 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: a bad offensive team. We knew that all year. People 723 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: just decided to ignore it because it was exciting, and 724 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, they're overlying on Randall. They can 725 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: load up on him and if his jump shot isn't 726 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: consistently falling, they'll get dismantled by the Atlanta Hawks. And 727 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, this team is in an entirely different stratosphere 728 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: right now because of Jalen Bronson, and also, I mean 729 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: the role guys are improved like quickly. Josh Hart, those 730 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: guys are first Team All Role Player right now. They 731 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 1: are doing their jobs exceptionally well. This bench is really good, 732 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: but it's Brunson man. Like you said, I mean, he's 733 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: been one of the best guards in the league in 734 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: this calendar year. He's been unbelievable. And he's an incredibly skilled, 735 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: versatile pick and roll score, high level shotmaker on all 736 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: three levels, good playmaker, good leader, competitor. He's the difference maker. 737 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: He's the reason that this is now a team do 738 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: you look at and say, yeah, they're a legit playoff 739 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: caliber team. And Randall has been much better after another 740 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: slow start of this year, and his jump shots actually 741 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: come back to some extent, like not quite at two 742 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: years ago level, but also better than last year where 743 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, is this guy literally 744 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: just exactly the same jump shooter he was before and 745 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: there were no fans in the stands. He's at a 746 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: happy medium where he's like thirty five percent from deep, 747 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: forty two percent from mid range, and when he's at 748 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: his best, when he's physical, when he's making good decisions 749 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: with the ball, when his jump shots falling, Yeah, he 750 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: can be a really impactful top two guy offensively. So 751 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: I think we view this team very Similarly, I just 752 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: don't think when you're comparing them to the top three, right, 753 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: those teams have more star power, they have really strong depth, 754 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: They are more gifted on both ends of the floor. Right. 755 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: It's just there's a different level that I don't think 756 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: the Knicks can get to in a seven game series. 757 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: But they've been really fun. They've overachieved my expectations, and 758 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: that Brunson deal, which I wasn't sure about, is clearly 759 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: a massive difference maker, and you know, gets them one 760 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: step closer to where they would like to end up. 761 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: He's done the work. I mean, he's flat out done 762 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: the work, So shout out to him. But I mean 763 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: it's really the simple Take the top two guys out 764 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: of every one of these teams. Take you know, Randall 765 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: and Brunson out, Take the Jay's out for Boston, Take 766 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday and Janis out, and who has the better roster. 767 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: It's Boston and Milwaukee by a mile. So you're asking 768 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: is for Jalen and Julius to dramatically outplay Jannis and 769 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: True Holiday or the two js, which is just too 770 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: much to ask. So it's just it's just the reality 771 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: of their predicament. Those two guys. Are you know Brunson's 772 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: better off is probably the second or third best player 773 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: on the team, And same thing with Julius Randall if 774 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: you're looking to win a championship. Yeah, And I still 775 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: have current concerns about Randall's offensive consistency and efficiency. And 776 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: RJ you know, is a beast of his own. He 777 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have that sort of expectation, but he does get 778 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: a significant volume in this offense, and that can be 779 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: pretty ugly at times. Yeah. Absolutely, the most. He is 780 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: the most predictable offensive player I've ever watched in terms 781 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 1: of driving, direction and shot selection, Like you, I feel 782 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: like watching the TV. I know what he's going to 783 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: do next every single time. Yeah, and a lack of 784 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: skilled shot making like the intermediate game is, it's not there. 785 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: Let's talk about one more Eastern Conference team who we 786 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: have touched on here within these conversations. The Celtics have 787 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: been quite CONSI instantly right at the top of the 788 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: league this year. I mean literally from the jump last 789 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: year obviously made the finals, slow start, incredible, finished the 790 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: regular season. Jason, Is this Boston team better than last 791 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: year's I think, I think I think they're much better. Yeah, 792 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: their defense isn't quite as sharp as it was last year. 793 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: They're giving up about five points more per one hundred possessions. 794 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: I do think a big part of that is them 795 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: kind of buying into the long view of the NBA 796 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: regular season, like Man Boston Boston night in and night out. 797 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: Their effort during the springtime last year and the regular 798 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: season was off the charts, and I don't think it's 799 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: realistic to expect them to do that again, especially when 800 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: you understand, like once you've you've seen this with all 801 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: the veteran teams around the league, once you like thoroughly 802 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: embrace and understand that from mid April to mid June, 803 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: you're going to be going through this incredible physical grind, 804 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: like you do, bank some energy there. So I don't 805 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: really hold them over the accountable to that. I do 806 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: think that they'll be able to reach the same defensive 807 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: ceiling when they get to the season. But they are 808 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: a much better offensive team than last year. Malcolm Brogden 809 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: has been a home run trade to bolster their decision 810 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: making and ball handling. To me, in general, their guard 811 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: corps I think is sneaky, one of the best guard 812 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: corps in the league. And it goes completely under the 813 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: radar because of the focus on the two Jays. But 814 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: they're a much much better clutch team and execution team 815 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: than they were last year. So this is crazy. Check 816 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: this out. Last year, the Celtics were the second worst 817 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: win percentage in the entire league in clutch games. They 818 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: were thirteen and twenty two in the postseason. We saw 819 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: that specific problem rise up time and time again. They 820 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: lost five clutch games in last year's postseason, which was 821 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: more than everybody else, albeit they've played longer, but even 822 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: above and beyond that, we just know from watching the 823 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: games that last year they struggled with execution in ball handling, 824 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: but in this particular season, they've completely flipped the script. 825 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: They've been the second best clutch team in the league. 826 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: They are twenty one and eight in games that have 827 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: been within five points with less than five minutes left. 828 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: They have almost a two to one assist a turnover 829 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: ratio and clutch situations this year. So that speaks to 830 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: them just taking better care of the ball. They've just 831 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: been sharper in those areas. But the problem is, and 832 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: you talked about this a little bit when we were 833 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: talking about contenders, but the league around them has gotten 834 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot better. Milwaukee I think is not only much 835 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: better than last year, but I agree with you. I 836 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: think they're a much better version of the championship team 837 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: that won a few years back. Albeit that team was 838 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: very much a war of attrition, last man standing type 839 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: of team, which is a credit to you. They're a 840 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: deserving champion, but their path through the playoffs was bizarre 841 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: to say the least. Right, But like Milwaukee's much better, 842 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Philly I think is much much better than they were 843 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: last year. And then the Western Conference, you're either going 844 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: to get a Golden State team that is the defending 845 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: champion that somehow gets right in time and peaks and 846 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: gets out of the Western Conference, a Denver Nuggets team 847 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: that is a matchup nightmare. When we were talking about 848 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: half court offense earlier, did you know that Michael Porter, 849 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: junior Jamal Ali and Nicola Yokich have an offensive rating 850 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: in the half court of one eleven this year, which 851 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. That's like ridiculous, like static set defense 852 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: environment scoring one hundred and eleven points per one hundred possession, 853 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: So that presents a whole other monster. It's like or 854 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get lucky and it'll just be Lebron James 855 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis and Los Angeles Lakers, you know, or 856 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. It could be or Kevin Freakin, Durant, 857 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: Devin Booker, Chris Paul and DeAndre Ayton. Right, So, like 858 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: it's just the Western Conference is going to spit out 859 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: some ridiculously good team at the end of all of this, 860 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: and you've got a tougher challenge up at the top 861 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: of the East. So like this is by the way, Well, 862 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: I've always been such a big believer in repeatedly loading 863 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: the deck, like don't give up upgrading your roster. I 864 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: give the Celtics a ton of credit for the Malcolm 865 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: Brogden trade, you know, going for Mike Mascala, you know, 866 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: the going being aggressive to try to improve on the margins. 867 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: I think has served them well because if they play 868 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: as well as they did last year in the postseason, 869 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: they'll lose in the conference finals. But they have given 870 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: themselves a fighting chance. I still think they're the most 871 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: talented team in the league, So if they do play 872 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: to their actual ceiling on both ends of the floor, 873 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: I think they'll get the trophy, but you always have 874 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: to bake in their kind of inexperience from a ball 875 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: handling perspective, and that obviously gives That's why I'm leaning 876 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: towards Milwaukee. But I do think that Boston is significantly 877 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: better than they were last year. I agree completely. They 878 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: have been from the jump. I mean, who isn't better 879 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: on this team than they were last year? Right, Like 880 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: Tatum has been more consistently great. Brogen obviously has been 881 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: an awesome edition. Derek White is like an entirely different player. 882 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, Derek White was a problem at times in 883 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: last year players he couldn't make a shot. He just 884 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: averages like twenty and six in an entire month while 885 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: playing the Lade defense. I agree with you completely. I 886 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: think money just also say there's a lot of nights, 887 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of knights where I think Marcus Smart is 888 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: the third best like true guard on this team, right, 889 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: because I considered Jason and Jalen Wings, they're their own category. 890 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: Derek White and Malcolm Brogden are incredibly talented basketball players, 891 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: so complete versatile. Yeah, in a lot of ways, they 892 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: are like the thing that scares me most about picking Milwaukee, 893 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: because that's the new dynamic that this team has. But yeah, 894 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: it's even like you talk about the back end of 895 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: the rotation, just specific matchup guys who are competent, you know, 896 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: adding like a Muscala, you know, Howser actually becoming a 897 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: decent player this year, Blake. I don't know if that 898 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: really matters, but it certainly doesn't hurt. And then I 899 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: agree with you. The lack of consistently defense compared to 900 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: last year doesn't concern me because their personnel is identical 901 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: and we know the ceiling that they're capable of. So 902 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: I think this team is loaded, and as I've said, 903 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: I think that this is the most talented top two 904 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: out East of this century. I think that we are 905 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: in for an absolute war in the conference finals. And 906 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: as good as the West is, I still do view 907 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: whoever comes out of the East as a significant favorite 908 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: because I think they have by far the least question 909 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: marks and they've consistently shown US elite elite basketball and 910 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,479 Speaker 1: have incredibly high ceilings. Yeah, the only team that would 911 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 1: come out of the West that I'd be really tempted 912 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: to pick over either of those teams would be Golden State, 913 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: just because Like again, it was all like conventional wisdom 914 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: going into last year's NBA Finals, screamed Boston just just 915 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: knowing everything we knew about them from a talent perspective, 916 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: and I picked Golden State for that specific reason. Just there, 917 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: they just that team for whatever reason, You're just always 918 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: going to get their absolute best punch, whereas with some 919 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: of the other teams around the league, it's like, well, 920 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: which team are we getting tonight? You know what I mean? Um, 921 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I you know, I'm glad you brought up 922 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: specifically Derek White and Malcolm Brogten because those two guys, 923 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: their their offensive creation has been just through the roof good. Um. 924 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: Both of them are good point of attack defensive players. 925 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: I think that they're I mean, Carson, you could tell 926 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,959 Speaker 1: me if you think I'm wrong. Is there any team 927 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: in the NBA that's got a better two um individual 928 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: defenders for Yannis and Grant Williams and Al Horford, Like 929 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I would go maybe Draymond Green as an individual, 930 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: but like in terms of like a duo, like how 931 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: how great is that off the bench to have a 932 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: weapon in Grant Williams that you can deploy on Jannis 933 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: who can competently at least make him work harder in 934 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: those situations. But so much of this though, it's like 935 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: it's so funny because we were talking about this with 936 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: the Nicks earlier, But like you the whistle gets swallowed. 937 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: Everyone's offensive fouling and defensive fouling. Everybody a ton of 938 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: content like you're you're weirdly allowed to like travel around 939 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: the basket and stuff in the postseason when every when 940 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 1: everything just gets and it's like, I want the football 941 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: player in that situation, and that's Yannis and that's just 942 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: that one big wildcard that just screws all of this 943 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: up is just they won't be able to load up 944 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 1: on Jannis the way that they did last year because 945 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: of the spot up shooting that's going to be around him. 946 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 1: And as that series progressed, as good as Grant Williams 947 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: and Al Horford were, Johanna started to go through them 948 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: like tissue paper when it mattered. Yeah, all right, guys, 949 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: that is all we have for today. As always, we 950 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate your support. We will be back tomorrow morning. 951 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm staying up late tonight to record on all of 952 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: tonight's games, but that will be uploaded first thing in 953 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: the morning on Saturday. I appreciate you guys rocking with 954 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: us and we'll see you next time. The volume