1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you people were flipping out in 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the press box. So yeah, just God Christmas cookie draft. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Because there's one thing we both know, and that's eating sweets. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: And I feel good about this one. I'm taking peanut 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: butter cooking. Yes, oh that's tough. Welcome into the lounge. 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Mink and I'm Garrett Downing and the Ravens 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: are coming off a dominant, commanding never in doubt. Another 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: one of those wins, right, just like I said at 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the end of our Zacrer podcast, So big, big win. 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Never had the doubt, you ever in doubt? That was one. 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: You can just turn off the game in the fourth quarter, relaxed, 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: finally had my game story written in the third It 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: was perfect. No, Actually, the Ravens all the life, They're 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: life flash for our eyes. I'm sitting here doing a 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: bunch of ten Hail Mary's in the press box. I 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: went so I go down to do the interview on 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the field and I went down maybe about three minutes 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: left in the game, and at that point, the Eagles 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: I think, had the ball and they were driving and 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever, even if they get a field goal here, 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Ravens still get the ball. Back they can take some 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: time down. All of a sudden, I'm just like standing 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: down there, I'm like, the season is really gonna end. 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: The season is literally going to come to an end. 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: You know. They kicked the ball away and then they 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: come march all the way down the field. It was 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: just like it was kind of shock. It really was, 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of players felt that too. 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: Was this silent on the sidelines that were people flipping out? 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: They're flipping out, they were they were flipping out. Yeah, 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: it was weird. It was just it was weird. Yeah, 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: well I can tell you people were flipping out in 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the press box, namely you. Yeah, jeez. Alright, So how 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: much better would you have felt, though, if the Ravens, 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: if Joe Flanco hadn't to throw that interception. Let's say 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: they run the ball instead of throwing it there, which 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: I think we can both agree with, probably not the best. 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: If you're talking about when they're six and a half 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: minutes left, right up ten at their eleven yard line, 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: they just run the ball, either kick a field goal 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: or score a touchdown. You take either thirteen or seventeen 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: point lead. How much better do you feel today? Right? 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: If they did that as opposed to the other, because 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: then you probably end up winning the game by two scores, 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, or by seven or something like that. I mean, 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: if it's night and day, it is totally night, and 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: you think you'd be feeling like, oh yeah, Ravens, here 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: we go playoff time. Yeah. I think a lot of people, 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: probably myself included, you're feeling like, all right, pretty convincing 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: win over the Eagles. Offense had some big plays, run 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: a game got going. Um, I think you're feeling like, 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: all right, things are starting to kind of turn here. 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: Now two of the last three games the offense is 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: put up over thirty points because they did it against 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, And then you're saying, no, well, things just 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: kind of got away from them in New England. Tough 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: road game. But now you know they played two really 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: good offensive games. That's what you would be saying. I 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: think I would obviously be feeling a lot better, but 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I would still have some reservations about that. Namely, you know, 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the run defense getting run on the way they did 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: was surprising that that would alarm me either way going 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: into face Levion Belle and the Pittsburgh Steelers next. That 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: would concern me and you know, Jimmy Smith were still 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: not sure about his status going into the Steelers game. 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: So no matter what would have happened offensively, I still 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: would have I would still be kind of scared of 68 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh offense. Well, I agree, I'm not saying that 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: had they won yesterday more convincingly that I would be like, 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: oh man, here we go going to Pittsburgh, head sized 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: up the Super Bowl rings right now, I'm ready for it. 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be going out like what we're saying after 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: the Miami game. Yeah, exactly, I wouldn't be on that far, 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: but I would be feeling more confident, and I guess 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I would just I would be. It was a weird 76 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: locker room after the game last night, like players were 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: out of there in a hurry. Um. It didn't feel 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: like all that celebratory. Aeroto didn't give his big like whoa, 79 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: there's none of that despite the win. Yeah, it was 80 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: more of like a I feel like the atmosphere in 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the locker room after the game was like that was 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: way closer than it needed to be, and I can't 83 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: believe that it got to that point. And I am 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: relieved that we got out of there with a wind. Honestly, 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: it was, like I said, it was like the Ravens 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: life flash before their eyes. It's kind of like you 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: go bungee jumping, right and you almost die. Right, Well, 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna go bungee jumping the next day. 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're thankful you're alive, but you're gonna 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: play it safe from here on out. The only problem 91 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: is the Ravens can't play it safe. They gotta go 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and win the toughest game of the season 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: arguably again you know that of the Patriots. But it's just, yeah, 94 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: I think that that kind of shook them a little bit. Now, 95 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going to affect the game 96 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I think anytime you have Ravens Steelers that game, 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be amps for that. Trump's everything else. Yeah, 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: exactly what did you what? What did you make of 99 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the whole decision to pass? Then Joe runs the play, 100 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: he said afterwards, you know, when the play call comes in, 101 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: he kind of feels like, all right, Okay, I feel 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get my third touchdown today. Marty's giving 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: me one here. I like this. What did you make 104 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: of that whole thing? Well, I didn't think it was 105 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: a particularly great quote a Joe, you know, I don't 106 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: think that came off very well. The funny thing is, 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: here's the situation is, I think Joe was happy to 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: get the win, and he came into a press conference 109 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: where media members were feeling like or acting like it 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: was a loss, right. They were like really almost like angry, 111 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: upset or whatever, like looking to drop the hammer basically 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: on that decision. And Joe comes in here and makes 113 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: light of it, and it just wasn't He's thinking he's 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna get high fives from the great joke, you know, 115 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: and it just got crickets. It was like me telling 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: a joke, you know. You just you think this, oh, 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: this was gonna hit, you know, and then you get 118 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: nothing that. It was like to my life, Joe. It 119 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: was like you telling knock knock jokes, Tom Jo. Yeah, 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: it was exactly like that. Welcome to my life, Joe. Um. So, yeah, 121 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: So I think that's why I didn't come off that well. 122 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: Do I think like that's something to be concerned about 123 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: or that like whatever Joe, you know, is more about 124 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: his stats or fantasy stats and the winning though, of course, 125 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: I think like the reaction to it has been a 126 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: little bit over blue, and to be honest, yeah, I'm 127 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: and I just think that, uh when you look at 128 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: back of that man, John Harbor said it worst all 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: time play call, and that's one that you just you 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: just need to run it there. Everyone was a bad one, 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: worst all time. Really. I like what I like what 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Steve Smith said. He was like, I watched a lot 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: of football in my life. I played a lot of 134 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: football in my life. Worst ever, I've seen some bad ones. 135 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Well that's that's that's harms this thing. Now, you know 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Perryman was the slowest healing PCL of all time. You know, 137 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it's the all time quote. You know, that's good to know, right, 138 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: all right, So moving forward, I guess are you The 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: weird thing is is the way the run defense played 140 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: been so good all season long? Are you and they 141 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: basically ran that stretch zoone? And the answer from everybody 142 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: after the game, because we were all asking why did 143 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: the run defense get gash like that? And the answer 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: from everybody was, well, they ran that stretch zone. They 145 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: schemed us up. Well, it was a scheme thing. So 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: are you worried now that the run defense is broken. 147 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I am a little bit concerned about the run defense 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: going into Pittsburgh because I don't I kind of saw 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: some I would say chinks in the armor in the 150 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: New England game. I thought le Garrett Blunt ran the 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: ball better than I anticipated that he was going to 152 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: be able to in that game. Um, now he I 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: think he had seventies some yards, so I want to 154 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: say seventy nine yards, uh, which is not poultry. It 155 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: wasn't like he got stuffed by any means, and the 156 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Steelers found success sticking with that run game throughout the contests. 157 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Patriots said yes, um. And so now 158 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: then seeing this, especially when the Eagles were playing with 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: two reserve offensive lineman, they had a rookie guard playing 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: right tackle. They had another injury on their offensive line 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: at guard, another backup and guard. Um, so you have that, 162 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: you don't have Darren Sproles at running back. Ryan Matthews. 163 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a good player when he's been healthy, 164 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: but you know, he's not like Levian Bell. He's not 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Levian Bell, and so that concerns me a little bit. 166 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know whether the defense is just getting a 167 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: little bit more tired late in the year, whether they've uh, 168 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, opponents have found something in the scheme to 169 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: kind of get a moving a little bit more. I mean, obviously, 170 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: the strength of the Ravens run defense is Brandon Williams 171 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: and Michael Pierce, the two big guys in the middle, 172 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: and if you force those guys to move laterally, that's 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: tougher for the ven it is I'm actually not all 174 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that worried about it. I look at it. How many 175 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: games have been played, four teen games played, right, and really, 176 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: what you're talking about is one really bad showing. I 177 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: think Zeke Elliott went over a hundred I think, but 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: that was more of like over the course of the game. 179 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: It's not like he was nearly having as much success 180 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: as Ryan Matthews. Wasn't that in that game. So for 181 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: the most part you played fourteen I'll go ahead and 182 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: say twelve of those fourteen the run defense was pretty dominant. 183 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Not just it was it was good, but it was 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: pretty much dominant. So I'm gonna side with the twelve 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: and I and look, I get it like it was weird. 186 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: It's it's the thing, is the latest trend yeah, it was. 187 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: It was weird. Like when I'm sitting there watching it, 188 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, where is team journey again? Or where is 189 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: what's going on here? What's happening? And it was weird, 190 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not I still think they're gonna be able 191 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: to stop the run against the Steelers because the other thing, 192 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: too is and now this is two football novices here 193 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: talking about the excess and knows. But enough of the 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: people said it was a scheme thing. They schemed us up, 195 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: They schemed us up, that it looked like the Eagles 196 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: are doing something they either confuse them or they weren't expecting. 197 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Also said that the Steelers the same scheme this week. 198 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: I know, But the Ravens have had enough successes stopping 199 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: the run against the Steelers. That's mine that they understand 200 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: their scheme. That's my point. That they faced them and 201 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: they've had done a good job stopping Levan Bell and 202 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: keeping him from going off, and I feel like they're 203 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do that. One of us is 204 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: going to be really crowing here next week. I hope 205 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: it's me that you're not over here talking about how great. So, 206 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: speaking of the run game, the Ravens run game had 207 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: one of its its best day of the season, career 208 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: high over a hundred and fifty combined yards. Do you 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: think the Ravens is this finally the Ravens running offense? 210 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: Is this what we're gonna get? The Ravens need to 211 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: keep running the ball? You're going with the old run 212 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: the ball more? I think were you the guy in 213 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: the stands that kept yelling out already run the ball? 214 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't me? Was that guy heard loud and clear throughout 215 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the game? Yeah, he was sitting right in front of 216 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the press box and he made his voice his way. 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: He had one of those booming voices. They probably gonna 218 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: heard it down on the field. UM. I mean, I've 219 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: said it a million times here here that I'm not 220 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: a big run the ball guy, and I don't think 221 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: that you need to have a good running game to 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: be a really good offense in the NFL. Okay, so 223 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: we start there. We're pretty much on the same page 224 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: with that, right. But here's my thing with with the 225 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: running game is what I've always said is you have 226 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball and use it 227 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: in situations where you need to either kill time, um, 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: where you need to minimize risks for whatever reason, the 229 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: weather being a factor, um just take time off the 230 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: clock being a big one that you need to use 231 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: it in those situations that I don't think that the 232 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Ravens have done a good enough job of going it 233 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: in the spot. And I would add to that it 234 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: needs to be a good enough compliment to the past 235 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: game where the pass game just isn't all by itself. 236 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Miami game was an anomaly 237 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: and how much success they were able to have passing 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: without running it hardly at all. Usually you have to 239 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: at least have a good compliment to the passing game 240 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: or pass rushers just start teeing off on it. Where 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: it gets lost in translations when you start having the 242 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: conversation of run the ball more, run the ball more, 243 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: and then people think you just need to tip the scales. 244 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: So then all of a sudden, okay, running first down, 245 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: got the run, taking care of You've got two yards 246 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: on that. Let's move on to the next thing. I 247 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: think the past sets up the run, but you just 248 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: have to utilize it effectively. And that's what that that 249 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: is where I you know, in Sunday's game, I felt 250 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: like the Ravens missed opportunity to do that. You know, 251 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about that play in the fourth quarter where 252 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: they decided to pass instead of run the ball. I 253 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: actually was saying it earlier in the game when they 254 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: were throwing the ball and the weather the wind were scrolling, 255 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: it was raining and generally getting sack. That was the 256 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: worst of the weather on the day. Yeah, it was 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: really bad. They get the strip sack and then the 258 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Eagles end up getting a touchdown, get two point conversion. 259 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: Really spotted on eight points there. So I think in 260 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: those situations where you the passing game, it doesn't look 261 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: like it's either gonna work or it's not really smart 262 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: in that situation, given the time and the score, run 263 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: the ball there. Usually when we hear it calls for 264 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens needing to run the ball more, we look 265 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: at it and you can go but through the play 266 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: by play and say, all right, let's look at all 267 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: those situations really could have done it, And usually there's 268 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: like three or four that maybe come out or even 269 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: less a lot of times like to right, and you're like, okay, 270 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: in that situation, yeah, that would have been one. And 271 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens absolutely do that, and Harbors even 272 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: talks about it off and on Mondays. It's like I 273 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: went through it and there were a couple of calls 274 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: that I didn't don't agree with now, but that's gonna happen, 275 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: Like not every call is going to be perfect or whatever. 276 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: But I think what makes this game, the Eagles game, 277 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: really stand out in regards that is the worst possible 278 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: scenario happened. In both of those situations where you should 279 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: have been running the ball, you get strip sack on 280 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: one and the other one. It's not like Joe dropped 281 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: back and through an incomplete pass and then everybody's like, man, 282 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: they should have ran the ball there. You didn't waste 283 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: any time, you didn't run any time off the clock. No, 284 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: we dropped back and got picked. So it's like the 285 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: worst possible outcome. And that's what I think highlighted, you know, 286 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: the bad call there. Yeah, I think I guess the 287 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: point that I was trying to make is so often 288 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you'll have a game where it's a one sided score. Oh, 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens lost whatever fourteen and they only ran the 290 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: ball ten times in that game. Run the ball more, 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: run the ball Morena, That's the automatic answer. And it's like, well, 292 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the reason that they threw the ball so much is 293 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: either because they were down or because the running was 294 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: going nowhere. I just don't think that it's a tip 295 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: the scales kind of things to use it effectively based 296 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: on the game situation and in some wary though. I 297 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: will add this, I think overall, for really stepping back, 298 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: do I think that the Ravens have been a little 299 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: under underutilized the run game? I would say yes. I 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: would say yes that in general, but it's so nuanced 301 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: and game the game that it's really hard, you know. Um. Alright, 302 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: So moving on, we didn't read an email off the top, 303 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and we got some good We've got some really good 304 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: ones for well, we had to wait on this one 305 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: just because it's gonna set up our next segment here. Yes, first, 306 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: but first, we got a great email over the weekend, 307 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and we just want to give a shout out to 308 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: our guy, Logan Fisher Walsh. Yeah, buddy, Yeah, Logan is great. 309 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: He's a listener, royal listener, and we're happy to have 310 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: him as somebody who listens to the podcast. So shout 311 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: out to Logan. Under what we understand here is that 312 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Logan is like telling some of our jokes. He likes 313 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: the podcast the logan. You know, we love you, buddy, 314 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: but don't tell Garrett's jokes, all right, And don't you 315 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: know what, Logan, don't even tell my jokes? Right, you 316 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: know you can do better. I'm sure Logan has way 317 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: better jokes than we did. That's not saying much so, 318 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: but we really appreciate you. Listen to Logan, Thank you 319 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: very much. And then another email. This one's from Daniel Broyles, 320 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: and this is one of the better emails we've gotten. 321 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: So this goes back to the Thanksgiving Day draft, Thanksgiving 322 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Meal draft that we had. If you haven't listened to that, 323 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: when you're gonna have to go back listen to that podcast. Anyway, 324 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: we did a draft. So Daniel is writing about that draft. 325 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: He says Garrett a few times in the expansive history 326 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: of man kind, has there been a greater display of 327 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: stubb and Prye than makes indefensible unwillingness to acknowledge his 328 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day draft was a failure help out your stubborn 329 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: friend by giving him a chance that redemption Christmas draft. 330 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: Here we go. I like it all right, So here's 331 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: the we started kicking around ideas in terms of how 332 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: we want to do this Christmas draft, and we come 333 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: to a conclusion of Christmas cookie draft. But let me 334 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: just we'll jump into that. Let me just say this. 335 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: One of the other ideas that we had was doing 336 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie draft. And No, I don't know him 337 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: well and make doesn't know Christmas movies well enough. He 338 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: literally asked what happens in Home Alone too? And I said, 339 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: he gets lost in New York and he goes, yeah, 340 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the premise there. I'm like, dude, 341 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: the movie is called Home Alone two Loss in New York. Yeah, 342 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I had no idea. So that is why we're not 343 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: doing Christmas movies. You know what I remember from Him 344 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Alone is when he walks to the door and the 345 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: flamethrower things lights his hat on fire, and when, oh god, 346 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: when the guy steps on the nail. Yeah, it still 347 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: gives you the have you seen have you seen Christmas Story? Yeah? 348 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Have you seen this wonderful love? Christmas story is the 349 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: one where he's changing the tire You slowmony says the 350 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: curse word. Yeah, yeah, that's a Christmas story. Christmas vacation. 351 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know alright that one. Okay, Chevy Chase, Yeah, 352 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: I love Jimmy Chase. All this the National Lampoom Vacation's great. 353 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. The Christmas one one, I don't know. 354 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, Christmas cookie draft, because there's 355 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: one thing we both know, and that's eating sweets, all right, No, no, alright. First, 356 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: here's all all the choices. Gingerbread cookie, fehernice sugar cookie 357 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: with sprinkles, pizel like the Italian cookie, peanut butter cookie, 358 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookie, Hershey kiss in the middle cookie. You 359 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: know it's pressed down in there exactly. I don't know 360 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: what it's called. And last, it is a curveball, a 361 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: candy cane, not a cookie, but that falls in that category. 362 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: It's a dessert. Uh. And how are we gonna first pick? 363 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: We do favorite one? Scissors? Shoot? Oh? Yes, best pick? Oh? 364 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. All right, I've stacked the 365 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: board and I feel good about this one. I'm taking 366 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: peanut butter cookie. Yes, Oh that's tough. That's a tough one. 367 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: Why you had that number one on your board? I 368 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: did have that number one on my board. You know, 369 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I love peanut butter. I'm sorry, here he goes class. 370 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to a classic classic chocolate chip cookie dip 371 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: in the milk. All right. Yeah, see that was like 372 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: my turkey pick right there, just the bread. But yeah, 373 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: that was a good one. That was safe. That was saying, 374 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: that was left tackle. That was left tackle. All right, 375 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: here we go. I'm a fan of this one. This 376 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: is another we don't know the name of it, but 377 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Hershey Kiss pressed down in the middle. It's a bad one. 378 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: That is a bad pick. I had that last, literally 379 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: ranked last on my board, an idiot. That's not a 380 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: very tasty cookie. It's just a Hershey Kiss with a 381 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: nothing batter. That's why it doesn't even have a name, 382 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: because it's not that good. But here's the thing, it 383 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: doesn't even have a name yet everybody knows what it 384 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: is and everyone's familiar with it because it's just a 385 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: strong pick. That's what's like left on the table last, 386 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: and you're just like, all right, I'm kind of hungry. 387 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll just get one of this. Go ahead, all right. Um. 388 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: With my second pick, I'm gonna take a sugar cookie 389 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: with sprinkles. Another just solid. Talk about boring, just coming 390 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: shitting him out of the park. Right down the pipe, 391 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: cranking it out of the park. Talk about boring, man, 392 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: I got chocolate tip and sugar cookies. Talking about boring. 393 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel great. All right, I'm gonna 394 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: go here in draft. I'm going here. This is This 395 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: is the gingerbread cookie. That's the gingerbread cookie. You gingerbread man, 396 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: and you you the entire gingerbread house. Yeah, this is 397 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: gingerread man, gingerbread house. I get all that fun stuff. 398 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: You don't get any of that. The gingerbread cookie covers 399 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm gonna be having a whole 400 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: town full of ginger house. You would be a big 401 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: gingerbread housemaker. You probably do do that, don't you. Go ahead? 402 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Now here's where I get a little exotic feffer New 403 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Peffernus is a great pick. I didn't even know about it, 404 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: but rat boy, oh the name is back rap Po. 405 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: We told me about peffer Noos. I'm telling you they're good, dude, 406 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: I ate about I swear I hate a dozen feffern I. 407 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: And the best part about them they also suggest you 408 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: have them with wine. Oh even better, even better. Oh 409 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: that's a good one. All right. So here I'm in. 410 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Just we have pizels and candy canes left. And I'm 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: in a tough spot here because I like pizzeles, I 412 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: like eating They're good, but candy Kane isn't. Yeah, So 413 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna really I'm I'm 414 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: in the Christas spirit and I'm gonna hang them from 415 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: the tree. I'm going candy cane to wrap it up. 416 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: I get one of my favorites, pizzels on the last pig. 417 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: All right, I want a minute right now, I won 418 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: So here we go, just to recap. I have the 419 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: peanut butter cookie, the Hershey Kiss in the middle, gingerbread, 420 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: town House cookies, and the candy cans. I have chocolate 421 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: chip cookie, sugar Cookie with spring les, Feffer News and Pizel's. 422 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: I dominated this draft, this one. This one isn't quite 423 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: as clear as the Thanksgiving draft. But we want you, 424 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: guys to let us know who you think one. So 425 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and email us at the lounge at Ravens 426 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net and let us know your favorite 427 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Christmas cookie. When you were eating candy canes or when 428 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: you do still now do you how do you eat it? 429 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Do you kind of break off? The curve part and 430 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: put it in your mouth like it's a retainer. Yeah, 431 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I definitely would do that. Yeah, that's a good also, 432 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: or bottom up or bottom up right? Do you all 433 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: see it from the bottom and kind of like suck 434 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: on it until it gets a real sharp pointing at 435 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: your brothers. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great here. Oh, but 436 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: you won't be to do that this year because you're 437 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: just talking about jealous You are my candy canes. I'm good. 438 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm straight with my chocolate. All right. So, do we 439 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: have anything about football we'll talk about, or if there's 440 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: a big game coming up? I heard the Ravens playing 441 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, so the Pittsburgh Steelers. And just to 442 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: make sure everybody's aware, if the Ravens win this game 443 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: this weekend, that does not clinch the f C North 444 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: they would still most likely have to beat the Bengals 445 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: in week seventeen, which in Cincinnati, which I don't think 446 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: it's a gimme by any means. Right now, if the 447 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Ravens lose this game, they will not win the a 448 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: f C North. They are out of the f C 449 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: North Crown. They could still get in the wild card, 450 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: but the Miami Dolphins would have to lose both their 451 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: last two games to the Bills and Patriots, and we'll 452 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: know going into the game on Sunday, because the Bills 453 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins play Saturday. Win that game, then the 454 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: Ravens only path to the playoffs will be via beating 455 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers and winning the division. So it's a big 456 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: game pressure, obviously, And so I think an interesting thing 457 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: to think about here, Garrett, is if I told you 458 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: at the start of the season that the Ravens would 459 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: essentially be playing for the f C North title this week, 460 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: would you be happy with that scenario? Right? I think 461 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I would when you consider the fact that you know, 462 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: last year it was a five on up the season, 463 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: So now you're gonna come back and you're gonna say, 464 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: in week sixteen, the divisions on the on the line. 465 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: You've got to be happy with that, right. I mean, 466 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: of course, in that scenario, you would love the idea 467 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: that you know you're plant going into that game at 468 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: eleven and three, and then you still have a wild 469 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: card spot even if you don't win the division. But 470 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens have a chance to win the division and 471 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: get a home playoff game, and they's they still control 472 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: that they don't need any help. I think that you 473 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: would take that. How could you say, how would you say, 474 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: of course, it's better than the alternative, right, Like I 475 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel like right, I think what you're saying is 476 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty commendable. I mean, we can all sit 477 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: here and complain after a win against the Eagles and feel, 478 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, not so great heading into this game, maybe 479 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: because the Steelers are so hot, you know, the Ravens 480 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: are coming off of your death experience. Um. But also 481 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: on that note, let's not forget that the Steelers almost 482 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: lost the Banks out a j Green. They did. They 483 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: couldn't get in the end zone all day practically they 484 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: needed seriously. Uh So, as much as the Steelers are writing, 485 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I think a five game win streak or more, uh, 486 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: they haven't looked good for all of that. Family. Just 487 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: both these teams are kind of the same. They've each 488 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: had a four game losing streak in the middle of 489 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the season. They both lost to the UH Cowboys and 490 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Like the Steels got blown out by the 491 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Eagles right four to three yearlier season so like but anyway, yeah, 492 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: and they both kind of we're talking like a month 493 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: and a half ago about how the f C North 494 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: was so down and nobody was emerging. Both the Ravens 495 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: and the Steelers have played pretty darn good football since then, uh, 496 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: to get to this point. So I still think there's 497 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: a very good chance that whoever comes out of the 498 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: North is gonna at least end up in the a 499 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: f C Championship. I feel pretty strong about that. Yeah, 500 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: we're not surprised me one bit. So I think that 501 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: leads us to how much compos do you have that 502 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna win this game? I don't. I'm 503 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: not gonna go out and say that. I feel like 504 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: it's a gammy, you know that. I'm I'm super confident 505 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: that there's no doubt the Ravens can lose this game. 506 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it is Raveins have had one 507 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: how many straights they have won four straight? Now. It's 508 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: always funny though, when you look at that, because people 509 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: in Baltimore kind of tend to gloss over the fact 510 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: that one of those games was was with Michael Vick 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: as a starter. And then this year's game, and yeah, 512 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: this year's game, Ben had come off missing two games 513 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: and it was his first game back from injury, and 514 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: he really hurried back from that injury, so he wasn't 515 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: quite himself in that game. So like, look, four straight 516 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: is four straight. You deserve credit where credits do, but like, 517 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: just look at the entire picture there. Um. So I 518 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens always play the Steelers stuff no 519 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: matter where it is. I think that they will go 520 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: out there and play really really well. Now again, how 521 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: much confidence you have. I think it's gonna be a 522 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a dog fight. Yeah, absolutely, I think 523 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: the Ravens. The thing about it is, you never know 524 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: what could happen in this game. I mean, it doesn't matter, honestly, 525 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: it sounds cliche. It means nothing what's happened before or 526 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: after even sometimes who was on the field. I mean 527 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: how many times and backups played or whatever. The Ravens 528 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: beat the Steelers and this pretty much situation. Last situation. 529 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: The Steelers came to Baltimore in Week sixteen with a 530 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: chance to win the division and go to the playoffs, 531 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: and the Ravens beat him with Ryan Mallett and who 532 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: knows how many backups on the field that day. So 533 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, we can talk about Jimmy Smith not being 534 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: on the field and all that stuff. They beat him 535 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: with Ryan Mallett and a bunch of backups last year, 536 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: so let's not forget about that. So it doesn't matter 537 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: who's on the field, who's playing. This game is gonna 538 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: be a close, highly contested game. And uh, you know, 539 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: you just have I think it's a coin flip. You 540 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: have no idea who can win this. Yeah. I think 541 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: Also the good thing about this, I think this is 542 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: the type of game that has the ability to kind 543 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: of you know, last time these two teams played, we 544 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: kind of had spent all that time talking about is 545 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: the rivalry not as great as it used to be? 546 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: And all? This is the rivalry game. Yeah, Like, this 547 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: is one of those To have a great rivalry, you 548 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: need to play big games and key situation late in 549 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the season and this is that. And I think it 550 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: has the ability to kind of reinvigorate things, especially after 551 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals season. They kind of had down seasons. So 552 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: it's Ravens Steelers once again, and we love it. So 553 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Make sure you email 554 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 555 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Tell me how much I kicked Gars but in the 556 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: Christmas shot, UH and Lee was a rating and review. 557 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. We'll be back with you later 558 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: this week. We're talking to Ladarius Web. Great guest, there's 559 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: a lot about the Steelers. You have played a bunch 560 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: of time, so make sure you've tuned in later this week, 561 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: and thank you for listening.