1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Whether you love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan. Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, It's a Sunday 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: afternoon college football podcast. This is random, but I was 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: so into from Thursday on Ohio State Minnesota until every 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: college game until Notre Dame Florida State tonight. Now I'm 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: not going to cover that game in this podcast. I'm 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: gonna let the four Notre Dame football players who are 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: now part of the volume. They have a podcast called 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Inside the Garage, All American. Kyle Hamilton highlights it. Inside 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: the Garage It's a Notre Dame football podcast. It drops Monday. 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: They will talk about the Irish game seven and a 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: half point favorites over Florida State. I do like the Irish. 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: They're breaking in a new quarterback, but I still like them, 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: I think. But Brian Kelly is done at an academically 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: difficult university. Is bring Notre Dame back into prominence. I 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: think right now, if you take Alabama Clemson Ohio State 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: out There's an argument to be made that Notre Dame's 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: in a class of the next three or four, including Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: and then Notre Dame. That is a very elite class 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty Division one programs. None of the 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: top ten programs have the academic standards of Notre Dame. 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: It's a tough place to win, lousy winter weather, It's 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: about a ninety minute drive south of Chicago, but largely 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: considered a rural environment. Not a lot to do there. 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I think what Brian Kelly has done is I'm surprised 29 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: NFL teams have not come knocking. Now. He's not Sean 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: McVay young or Lincoln Riley Hip He's an older guy. 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: But I think Brian Kelly. You take out Nick Saban 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: and Dabbo Sweeney, not a lot of coaches i'd take 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: before in the country over Brian Kelly. That's I really 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: hold him in high esteem. I think he's done a 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,559 Speaker 1: remarkable job. A little bit of a turnstyle at quarterback, 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: but they all win, so he's doing something right. Let's 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: bring in Joel clapt Voice of College Football Fox. You 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: know I did think Joel It was interesting yesterday the 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks for Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama are all 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: California kids. And the starting quarterbacks for UCLA is from 41 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Nevada and USC is from Arizona. Part of me thinks, boy, 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: we've left some talent leave the state. I do want 43 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: to say this. I watched Bryce Young in high school 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: and I don't know how. I don't really care about 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: the Sunday part of his game. He's not a big kid. 46 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: But somebody told me something years ago about pro athletes. 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: They said, the great ones are easy to spot because 48 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: it's so easy. The game looks easy. And I can 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: remember watching Michael Jordan and sitting with a friend on 50 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: the couch going the league is full of six six guys. 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: They're all big with big hands and can jump. Why 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: does he make it look so easy? And anybody do that? 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: And I watched Bryce Young yesterday Joel just the feet 54 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: in the arm, and I'm like, oh god, it just 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: it's his first game, no jitters. I was taken back 56 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: by how effortless it looked. It's so fascinating that you 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: bring up you know, Bryce specifically, but in a sense Alabama, right, 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: and this is what you know, I've had these conversations, 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: so my buddies, you can imagine like the text chains 60 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: as soon as the football seasons start going old teammates, 61 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, like other broadcasters, we're just firing away about like, well, 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: what is it that makes Alabama the team that always 63 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: comes out and it doesn't look it doesn't look hard 64 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: for Alabama. It can just be their talent because other 65 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: teams have recruited at that level, you know, like why 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: why did they come out and make it look so easy? 67 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Is it just because of Nick Saban? And I think 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you're asking more specifically about Bryce, but 69 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I think it also I think we underestimate how difficult 70 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: it is to practice and win any job at Alabama. Right, So, 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: like I bet you Colin, well, I know this. I 72 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: know this to be a fact. Saturday's game against Miami 73 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: was easier for Bryce Young than winning the job, right, 74 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: Like playing his defense in spring or in camp before 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: you're in prep mode and actually prepping for the other defense, 76 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: like what he sees, what he has to play against. 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: That's easier than playing against Miami. The pictures are cleaner. 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Against Miami, the pressure is not quite as fierce. Fierce 79 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: against Miami. So I think he just looks way more 80 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: comfortable than a lot of the other guys that are 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: making first starts around the country. And so you're like, well, 82 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: what makes it different for a guy like Bryce Young. Well, 83 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: it could be the environment that he's in, you know, 84 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: And and sure there's some of it that that that 85 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: is just him, there's no doubt, and there's other guys 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: like that around the country. But I think we could 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: underestimate just how difficult it is to win any starting 88 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: job at Alabama and that might be why they roll 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: out there and they never have that flop early in 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: the year. Can you think of outside of the National 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Championship game against Trevor Larrence a couple of years ago, 92 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: can you think of a time when you just felt 93 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: like Bama didn't show I can't. I can't think of 94 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: a time and other programs. I feel like it happens 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: once a year, twice a year, you know, I mean, 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: how right, that's it? And that's what I'm talking about. 97 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, oh you, oh, use a great example. This 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: same thing started happening to them early last year. They 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: were up thirty five four team on Kansas State ended 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: up losing that ball game, you know, and they get 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: up big on two lane and then you just kind 102 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: of like like let them come back. Stuff like that 103 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: doesn't happen at Alabama. And I think a lot of 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: it is the environment that Nick creates and how difficult 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: their practices are, the high standard by which you have 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to play every single day just to be a starter, 107 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: and I think that that bleeds into the game. You know. 108 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I want to really zone in on UCLA's winner over LSU, 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: and I remember how disappointed ed Orgron was when he 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: was overlooked at USC, and I had said at the 111 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: time I talked to a USC administrator and they had said, 112 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: we just don't know if he fits. For five years, 113 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I've always thought of him as an elite position coach, 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: a good coordinator, but I don't view him as a 115 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: top ten program head coach long term, although I do 116 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: think it shows the talent of Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow 117 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: made a lot of people's jobs way easier at LSU. 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: But when I watched that game, we know LSU has 119 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: probably more five star talent than UCLA. UCLA has been 120 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: maybe fifth, sixth in PAC twelve cruding so far for 121 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: cham Kelly, when you watched that game, I mean I 122 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: was really taken back. Now, UCLA I think had ten 123 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: seniors on defense. It's a twenty two, twenty three year 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: old kids. But I was really taken back by the 125 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that I thought UCLA consistently one. And 126 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: it's not for lack of talent at LSU that the 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: big bodies everywhere. That's what jumped out to me is 128 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: at the schematics of Chip, is at the age the 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: returning starters. What did you make of the line of 130 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: scrimmage in that game where UCLA controlled it? Biggest difference 131 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: for UCLA and years, you know, and Chip has been 132 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: doing this now this you know, we talk about some 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: guys that are like, oh, they got to come in 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: and build a program where we all want it to 135 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: happen quicker than it really can, in particular when you're 136 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: taking over program like UCLA at the point in which 137 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: she took it over and if quickly, he had to 138 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: tear a lot of things down in order to rebuild 139 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: them at UCLA. And I think you know what I'm 140 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: talking about. You're close enough to Chip. You and I 141 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: have had those long conversations with Chip and I don't 142 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: want to get into the details, but there were times 143 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: early in his tenure there where they had fifty six 144 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: fifty seven scholarship players and that was his choice. It 145 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: wasn't sanctions, it was it was him kind of tearing 146 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: down the program in order to rebuild it in the 147 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: fashion in which he needed to and wanted to, Okay, 148 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of that was cultural in terms of 149 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: the culture he wanted to implement and build. A lot 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: of it was the chemistry style of things, but then 151 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it also was like this style of 152 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: player that he wanted in the style of team that 153 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: he wanted. And now we're starting to see the fruition 154 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: of that. It just goes to show you, like, if 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: you're really going to do that and tear something down, 156 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: you need two things in abundance patients and from the administration, 157 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and then time in order to do that. And he's 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: had it. Okay, So now we get to this point 159 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: he's built this team back to hear and now they 160 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: do have one hundred and sixteen guys out there in practice, 161 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: not just seventy eight. They do have their full complement 162 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: of scholarship players out there, so they're deeper. And then 163 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: this is what I think is interesting is that I 164 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: was texting with some people, not only fans. I've got 165 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a neighbor who's a big UCLA fan, and also people 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: that are around the program more closely than just a fan, 167 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: and they were at the Rose Bowl and I started 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: getting texts yesterday on the plane coming home, and it 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: was all the LSU people and calling. You know what. 170 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: They were all saying, Oh, we didn't realize UCLA was 171 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: this big. They got out there, I think they were 172 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: surprised with what they saw. They thought they were coming 173 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: out there to see kind of this middling back twelve 174 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: program in a conference that doesn't have a lot of 175 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: great line play, and that they were going to come 176 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: out there and bully Ucla. They rolled out there for 177 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: warmups and looked over there and they were like, oh wow, 178 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: Like this is not what we expect. I got that 179 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: text from a few different people, one very close within 180 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: the program. They thought, and he texted me he was like, 181 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: this is this is a little scary. They're real over there, 182 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's what you're talking about. It's not just 183 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: the athletes, it was the line player. It's a side 184 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: of the line. It was the physicality of the line, 185 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: and you're right they you know, it really wasn't that close. 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: And I thought that, in fairness to him, if Dorian 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson is a little more efficient, I think you 188 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: probably could have put up forty five or fifty points. 189 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: I feel the same, right, Yeah, And because it wasn't 190 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: that close, right, like Ellis, Ucla was going to win 191 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: that game eight out of ten times. They were the 192 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: better team. They were more physical, they were more dominant. 193 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is a little in the weeds, but 194 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: I follow recruiting. UCLA's best to recruits this past year 195 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: were defensive lineman. Then they stole Jay Toya from usc 196 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: who was their best interior recruit defensive lineman. So UCLA 197 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: got three elite recruits all in the same space that 198 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: PAC twelve teams struggle with interior defensive line. So again 199 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: that's that's a little in the weeds. But you know, 200 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: I'll throw this at you too, but yeah, but it's 201 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: also not though, right, like why is Utah won the 202 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: PAC twelve South two of the last three years. They 203 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: played great defensively on the defensive front. Yes, they're big 204 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: and they're physical up there, and it's a big reason 205 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: why I think they're going to be a successful again 206 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: this year. You know, it's interesting talking about the transfer portal. 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Chip's gotten the bag a couple of times from NFL teams, 208 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: so he's got plenty of money. You know. You can 209 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: see him on his bike in Manhattan Beach. He's living 210 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: the good life, right. And I think, and this is 211 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: not a criticism of him some coaches. I don't know 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: if he feels a kinship to high school recruiting. I 213 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: don't think he loves it. But the transfer portals different. 214 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: You get more mature players. It's more of administrative than recruiting. 215 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Can we get them in right? And a lot of 216 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: these players leaves Southern California because SC and UCLA are down. 217 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: They go to the South, they go to another program, 218 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and they're like, oh like it here, 219 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: and they circle back and reach out back to SC 220 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and Ucla. He got six six transfer portal players and 221 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I think five started. And I just I saw UCLA 222 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: basketball do this where they lost a great player to Kentucky. 223 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: The kids like, I'm not into this, I miss my friends, 224 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: goes back the transfer portal. I liken it to a 225 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: much higher end junior college without the whiffs, because you know, 226 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: the guys can play. And I do think I would 227 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: be issues a lot of time either, Joe. I looked 228 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: at those UCLA transfers and I'm like, oh, they've made 229 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: the running backs. That's the difference in that program. So 230 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to get over my skis here, 231 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: but I think you know, Chips a little contrarian as 232 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: a personality. He is not, It's true, he is, and 233 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I kind of think he just he needs patience and 234 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: I think it's going to work for him. Okay, So 235 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's just ship you're talking about the 236 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: transfer portal. People are using this really well. And one 237 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: of the things that all the coaches that I talked with, 238 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready and we did those two games, 239 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: and Ohio State doesn't really have to deal with the 240 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: transfer port because there you know, it's it's more so 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: their leftovers or where everyone else goes right to grab 242 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: to grab people. But all these other programs, you know, 243 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota had had Nile's pick me. He was a captain 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: for Clemson. He comes in he's a defensive tackle at Minnesota. 245 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Another Clemson kid, Jez Mullins was the running back for 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: Wisconsin in my game. He came out there, run for it, 247 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: ran for over one hundred yards. Arthur Atba Katie the 248 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: defensive end from Temple, he transfers to pin State. He 249 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: was a forced yesterday and it was a big reason 250 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: why they were able to win that game. That's just 251 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: in the games I did you know, say you're talking 252 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: more about like a Zach Charbonnet who comes into UCLA 253 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: and it is kind of clearly giving them a huge 254 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: pop at the running back position. The word that keeps 255 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: coming up from coaches and I can really relate to this, 256 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what in a moment is that 257 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: these players come in with purpose and it's and it's 258 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: a purpose and a sense of urgency that maybe isn't 259 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: there for a freshman because the freshman has just been 260 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: told for three years how great he is. And they 261 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: come in somewhat entitled and there's not as much of 262 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: a sense of urgency and a purpose there. Okay, they're 263 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: not up against it as far as graduation. They're not 264 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: up against it as far as like, hey, one year 265 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: until I'm draft eligible. So they don't know what they 266 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: don't know when they're young, right, that doesn't mean they 267 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: can't be talented. But when you get a guy in 268 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, he's usually got a tremendous amount of purpose. 269 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: He knows exa actually where he wants to go. He 270 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: puts himself into the right fit in terms of system 271 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: and coaching staff, and he's going to come there and 272 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: he has a mission to accomplish. So to your point, 273 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I think people are using it really well. Chip's going 274 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: to be able to use it very well. And I think, 275 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Charbonnet is a great example 276 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: of that, because it's just not quite working at Michigan, 277 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: decides to come home. You know, what is it twenty 278 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: miles from his high school. You know, he's playing in 279 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: the rose ball which is twenty fifteen miles from where 280 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: he played high school football. And he's more comfortable, and 281 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: he's playing like it, and he's more purposeful, and he's 282 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: playing like it. 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Gaming problem called one 305 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler or visit FanDuel dot com, slash RG 306 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: and Colorado, Jersey or Virginia or one hundred and nine 307 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: with it in Indiana? Is it one hundredandbl dot net 308 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. I want to shift. I'll come back 309 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: to USC later, but I want to shift to the 310 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: Big Ten. When I watched your game with Minnesota Buckeyes Minnesota, 311 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: my takeaway was, that's a lot harder than people think. 312 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: It's on the road. College doesn't never preseason. You've got CJ. 313 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Stroud's a kid. A lot of teams would have lost 314 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: that game. A lot of teams. Ohio State really uneven 315 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: in the first half. Then like a great program, they 316 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: kind of just speed kicks in, a couple of playmakers, 317 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: a busted coverage, You look up and it's over. So 318 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: let's talk second place in the Big Ten. Penn State, 319 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: for whatever reasons, they've had Wisconsin's number, and I'm looking 320 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: at there and I had Penn State losing. It was 321 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: a five and a half point line. I didn't think 322 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: they'd win there. James Franklin is I always hear this 323 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: about James Franklin. Good presence, great guy, couldn't recruit x's 324 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: and knows eh but I gotta tell you he beats 325 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: a lot of staffs where I hear how great the 326 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: coaches are, and I look up today and I'm like, 327 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't trust Michigan. Number two spot in that conference 328 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: is Penn State the second best team in the Big Ten. 329 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: They made a great argument yesterday in fairness to Wisconsin. 330 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was three snaps away from winning that game by 331 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Right, So if you just look at the 332 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: balcon again, they snapped the ball ninety five times. Their 333 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: defense was fierce, in particular in the first half. Penn 334 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: State's offensive staff did not adjust for a long time 335 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: in that game and kept trying the interior and didn't 336 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: get to the outside until that third quarterer and really 337 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: even late into the third quarter, you know, if you 338 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: capitalize on a few drives early. We were sitting in 339 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: for example, I'm sitting up there in the booth and 340 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking with Gus at halftime and I'm like, this game. 341 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, listen, Penn State's probably 342 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna win because this game should absolutely, at a minimum 343 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: be ten nothing. Wisconsin. Yeah, the way that the whole 344 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: first staff is going, it's zero zero. That usually means 345 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: to me, they'll end up losing somehow because they have 346 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: thrown away some good opportunities. And then even late in 347 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the game, first in goal from the one in six 348 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: point deficit with two minutes left and they lost the game. 349 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: That's insane. It's like they fumbled a snap. He overthrow 350 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: Grammart's overthrows a guy on the second to last play 351 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: of the entire games that should be a touchdown. So 352 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: Wisconsin played well enough to win, but they didn't. And 353 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: that's the credit that you give to Penn State. I 354 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: think that Penn State has to figure out some things 355 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: running the football. They could not run the ball, and 356 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: we will see whether that's just great Wisconsin d or 357 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: is there some sort of inherent struggle with this Mike 358 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: gerstch offense on the Penn State side. The one thing 359 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I do know about Penn State though, that defense, in 360 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: particular calling the linebackers and secondary play is excellent. And 361 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: their coordinator Brent Prye is excellent. And this is one 362 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: thing that you just kind of touched on briefly. I 363 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: think James is best, and this might be a kind 364 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: of an obvious point. When he has strong core dators, 365 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: his programs really take off when he had Joe moorehead 366 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator. You know, they were Big Ten 367 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: champions and people really respect Brent Prye and so I 368 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of pressure to be honest is on 369 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Mike Yersich and this offense. So Mike Yrsich and and 370 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Sean Clifford have got to deliver and if they can, 371 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: then they can be pretty good. And then, to answer 372 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: more specifically your question, I think the team and I 373 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: know you're gonna love this, it's the fake idea. College 374 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: is really good and they were really good last year 375 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: and dominant, but they lost early in the season, so 376 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: we all forgot about him. And that's a really good program. 377 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I think Iowa as it stands today is the second 378 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: best team in the Big Ten. Yeah, they go to 379 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: Iowa State this weekend, and you know that's obviously an 380 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: excellent rivalry now with the emergence of the cyclones, but 381 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: Iowa is favored. Are they still the fake id? Here's 382 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: the thing. They just had their twenty first birthday, so 383 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: they got a new idea. It's legitimate. They were fake 384 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: until like this weekend. Oh that's great, Yes, So my 385 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: daughter's churning twenty one in a couple of days, so 386 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: she you know, she's gone from fake ID to ID 387 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: here und yeah, the So you know, it's interesting. I 388 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: watched Georgia, Clemson and a couple of California kids. J T. 389 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: Daniels plays a little like Drew Locke to me, didn't 390 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: play with a ton of urgency. I don't always love 391 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: his body language. He's got a great little lively arm. 392 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: But I watched Clemson and I thought, you know, this 393 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: is the Joe Burrow thing. No, Trevor Lawrence, Like, you 394 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: know what's interesting about Clemson, as great as they are, 395 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: they don't have top five recruiting classes. This is about 396 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: a great staff and they've had insane quarterback play and 397 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: receiver play, but they don't they don't recruit like Alabama. 398 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: They don't recruit like Ohio State. They don't recruit like LSU. 399 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: And I watched them Yester Georgia. No, they don't. And 400 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: I watched him yesterday and I'm like, let's just be 401 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: let's be honest here. For six years we've had Trevor 402 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Deshaun Watson. It's like, you know, that's that's 403 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: pretty high stuff. Is it possible that they're going to 404 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: have a major pullback here because they couldn't move the ball. 405 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the front seven for Georgia totally controlled the 406 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: game and I didn't see a lot of separation with 407 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: any Acclemson receivers from that secondary for Georgia. I I'm 408 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: not gonna, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it. 409 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: And here's the reason. I think that their offensive line 410 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: is a struggle this year. I think that that's real 411 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: and that they may struggle offensively quite a bit. I 412 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: think trying to replace not only Trevor Lawrence, but Etn. 413 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a while that he's been there 414 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: dominating at the running back position and cal I think 415 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I brought this up last year. They used him in 416 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: so many different ways a year ago. Like just for instance, 417 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: I remember I was charting watching the film when they 418 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: played in Miami in their game last year, and they 419 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: threw et and eight different screen passes different screen passes 420 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: in the first half alone. Right. That's that's aside from 421 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: just giving him the ball just to show you, like, 422 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: when they got into any sort of a big game, man, 423 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: he was the ticket. So when he leaves that offense, 424 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Their offensive line I think is 425 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: like I said, is a struggle. Now, having said that, 426 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: while they're not battling for the top spot in recruiting, 427 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: they are still very competitive, formidable. And here's the evidence. 428 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: When I go I think that the most important chart 429 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: within a season in college football is I go to 430 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: the twenty four seven sports site, I go to the 431 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: NCAA Football and I say composite rankings. I want to 432 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: know what your roster is as a whole. Okay, so 433 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: that's going to take every player on your team of 434 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: what were they when they were recruited. The only thing 435 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: that this is not good for is like the programs 436 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: that can develop well and they'll take a three and 437 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: a low four and develop them. But this is just 438 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: the most talented rosters in the country as as it 439 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: relates to where they are recruited. Clemson's fourth in the 440 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: country in the composite this season. Okay, they've got ten 441 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: five star players. They've got forty one four star players. 442 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: That's way more than LSU, Oklahoma, Florida A and m Oregon, 443 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: USC Texas, Notre Dame like they've got the roster. The 444 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: problem is they played a team that's higher than them. 445 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: George's number two. They've got nineteen five star kids, forty 446 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: seven of them on the four defense, lots of them. Man, 447 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: I'd say those linebackers they were flying, weren't they? It was? 448 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: It was impressive. So I think what you saw is 449 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: similar to what you saw last year when Ohio State 450 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: all of a sudden right up against Alabama. It's a 451 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: really great program that ran up to a program that 452 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: was just at a different level that year. I think 453 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: Georgia is at just a little bit different level this year. 454 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: But having said that, George is gonna have to figure 455 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: out some things on the offensive side. And I think 456 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: you saw listen, Clemson's defense was insanely good. You know, 457 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: their defensive front seven is loaded, but they're going to 458 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: struggle on the offensive line most of the year. Here's 459 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: the other Oh, here's the other problem. Okay, so we 460 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: saw Clemson's weakness. Who in the ACC is threatening Clemson 461 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: even with that weakness that we saw, Well, I would 462 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: say Notre Dame plays five games in the ACC, that's 463 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the closest matchup to me, because their offensive line keeps 464 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: him in every game. Their offensive line has given Georgia. 465 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: They've gone tote toe with Georgia two of the last 466 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: times they've met in those games were really competitive games. 467 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's old line, they're not going to play, but 468 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: they don't play Clemson. I know, I know, but that's 469 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: the only thing. Like when I watch Notre Dame in Clemson, 470 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: I see NFL people up front, especially on Notre Dame's 471 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: offensive line. If you can't block Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio 472 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: State defensive lines, you can't beat them. You I remember, 473 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I remember Pete Carroll telling me this one time what 474 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: he went four O against the SEC, and he goes, 475 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: the key is we can block their fronts. We got 476 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: four NFL guy He goes Washington with Don James, would 477 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: have four NFL guys in the NFL tight end. We 478 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: could block their fronts out west. That's our problem. We 479 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: cannot block an SEC front or an Ohio State front. 480 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: We don't have the we don't have the bodies, our 481 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: receivers and quarterbacks and corners and why we're fine there. 482 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: But when I look at Notre Dame and they play, 483 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna release this podcast before they play. But when 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: I watched Notre Dame and let's pivot to that, I 485 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: think what Brian Kelly figured out, and you told me 486 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: this he figured out about two years ago. Listen, this 487 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: is not a track meet. We can't run. We're not 488 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: going to run with some of these schools, but we 489 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: can get in their kitchen. And I gotta take something. 490 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: When I watch Notre Dame play take Alabama out, I 491 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: think they match up with everybody. I think they'll be 492 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: at Florida State and I think they match up with everybody. Joe, 493 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: That's my opinion. I Okay, So I have this theory, 494 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know, I think the Notre Dame 495 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: people might not love it because they've got such a 496 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: rich history, which they do. There's there's no doubt. I 497 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: have this theory that only one of the like really 498 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: really tough academic institutions can be great at a time. Right. Interesting, 499 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm totally wrong, but you know, I think it's 500 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: really difficult for Stanford and Notre Dame to both be 501 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: great because they're they have to get the exact same player. Interesting, 502 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: by the way, and we've seen an ascension for Notre 503 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Dame last three to four years and an erosion at Stanford. 504 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and that's Exactly what I was getting 505 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: to is the fact that this Notre Dame, while not 506 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: identical to what Stamford was doing, it is similar in 507 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: that when Stamford was really good under harbonn Shaw, they 508 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: could bully everybody up front, they could run the ball 509 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: on anybody. They would have a good back, They could play, 510 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: you know, tough and stout on defense. They could have 511 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: a few guys here and there that could run, you know, 512 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: they didn't have to have a whole stable of guys 513 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: that could run all over the place. They would have 514 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: really good tied ends. But it was just a factory 515 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: of NFL offensive lineman. NFL offensive lineman, NFL offensive lineman. 516 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: Now Stanford doesn't have that. They're pitching the ball around. 517 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Got absolutely hammered by Kansas State. All those players are 518 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: back at an under Dame. Now it's an NFL offensive 519 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: lineman factory. When I talked with scouts and executives when 520 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm in draft mode in the spring, they say, you 521 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame and it's just different in their 522 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: offensive line room, the way that they coach them, the 523 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: way that they help them. These guys are sure fire 524 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: players in the NFL because they come from Notre Dame 525 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: and to a large degree, I think that's what he 526 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: kind of figured out. And I don't know if he 527 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: figured it out as much as it just took a 528 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: little time to develop to that point. And then now 529 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: here there are and they've got enough on the outside 530 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: where they're a really good team. I think Notre Dame 531 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: is better than people think. I think comb as weird 532 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: as this might sound, maybe a touch of an upgrade 533 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: over Ian book. I think in arms streams the last 534 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: full season we saw Jack Coomb, he was the Big 535 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Ten's leading efficiency quarterback because he's not a slouch, and 536 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: so like, this could be something. This could be a 537 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: year where I think Notre Dame actually exceeds that expectations. 538 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: I certainly think that they'll threaten and potentially win ten games. Again, Yeah, 539 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: I do too. Notre Dame is a topic of many 540 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: of my discussions. What do you think about that? Do 541 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: you think Stanford and Notre Dame can be great at 542 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: the same time? I just don't. I don't think there's 543 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: enough great students that are also great football. We wrong, 544 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Northwestern's going to peel off some so then you've got 545 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: three because Northwestern is a bull program, So Stanford, Northwestern, 546 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame, it's just simply more difficult, not only 547 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: academically but socially. The workload that Notre Dame, Stanford, and 548 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Northwestern ask of their student athletes, it's just harder and 549 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: I and I think there's probably in the country, probably 550 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: about twenty to twenty five really blue chip kids that 551 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: can handle that workload. This is not a shot at 552 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: other fine institutions. Wisconsin's a great academic power. But but 553 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: I do think Stanford. I mean, I've talked to I 554 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: know multiple guys who have played at Notre Dame a 555 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: dozen and they're like, man, like, the workload is no bullshit. 556 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: This is a real workload. You not only you have 557 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: to go to class, and it's hard if you go 558 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: to class. And so I I think there's a listen, 559 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm mister theory. I got a theory and everything. I'd 560 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: never thought about that. I think it's one of your gems. 561 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie nice. I like it talk about Okay, 562 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the games that I watched. 563 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: So I watched Georgia Clemson, I watched the Alabama Miami, 564 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I watched UCLA, LSU I watched the Ohio State, I 565 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: watched USC, and I'm always very critical when a coach's 566 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: side of the ball struggles. Clay Helton's an offensive guy 567 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: for six years. They can't run on first and second down, 568 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: they don't use the tight end. They become insanely one 569 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: receiver dominant. Drake London had like thirteen catches. I think, 570 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think outside of the bubble screen. They 571 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: have run two screens in a game in Clay Hilton's tenure. 572 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: And the defensive side with Todd Orlando, the former Texas coach, 573 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: is fine. He's an aggressive coach. They run around. In fact, 574 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: Dante Williams, who they got from Oregon, has really upgraded 575 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the secondary talent. Or USC's corners are really nice players, 576 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: Sunday players. But I look at that offense Joel six years. 577 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: They can't run the football. And I talked to a 578 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: friend in the Pac twelve. He said, you run the 579 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: air raid? What a lead offensive lineman wants to go 580 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: block for the air raid? Is it just that simple? Yeah? 581 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: And it's a pretty pure air raid. You know. There 582 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: are so many different spinoffs and I call it like, 583 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what the analogy is, but like this 584 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: is a pure form of air raid um as about 585 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: as close to leech as you can get, and that offense. 586 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: As successful as Mike has been, he's still never won 587 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: a division championship. And the part of the problem is 588 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: is because there's there's no width to it. And I'm 589 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: not talking about just like with as far as the 590 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: field goes with is a vers versatility might be a 591 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: bigger or a better term. There's still an element to 592 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: this sport where you've got to control the clock at times, 593 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: you've got to win the line of scrimmage and control 594 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: the edge on short yardage. You have to have that 595 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: at least in your toolbox, and they just don't even 596 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: care if it's in their toolbox or not. And I 597 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: think it's really frustrating for fans. I was frustrated at 598 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: I did back to back games last year. I did 599 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: their opener against a SU then I did their second 600 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: game against you of A and I can remember, you know, 601 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: you do their first game and they struggled on short 602 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: yardage because, let me get technical for a moment, they 603 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: don't go under center, which is fine, Okay, there are 604 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: teams that don't go under center, even in the short 605 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: yard game. But the teams that don't go under center 606 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: in the short yardage, they control the edge, the edge 607 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: player with a read or motion, or even someone that 608 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: just comes and blocks them. When you just sit there 609 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: and snap the ball and then hand it to a 610 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: back and don't control the inman on the line of scrimmage, 611 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: he's just going to crash down and make the tackle 612 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: in the short yardage, so they don't read it with 613 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. They don't do anything. It's why because they 614 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: have no wit to their run game. And again I'm 615 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: not talking about space. I'm just talking about They've got 616 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: such a few number of concepts and ability to do 617 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: different things that they can't. It's not in their toolbox. 618 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: And I finally kind of like lost it during the 619 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: game against you avails, like you can't do this, like 620 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: this is this is insane it seems and I know 621 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: this is a very hard knock against them, but they've 622 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: got to be better than that as coaches period. I 623 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: asked them about it between the games and our coaches 624 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: meetings and I was like, well, have you thought about 625 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: going under center? How do you want to control the edge, 626 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: And they kind of were like, well, it's just, you know, 627 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: it's not what we do. What do you mean? It's 628 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: like a carpenter that doesn't have a measuring tape like 629 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: it is, now what you do? You know? Measure like 630 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand. So I know that that's a that 631 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: is a scathing review, but it's true, and it's one 632 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I think UCLA is going to 633 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: be the better team in LA this totally because they 634 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: have more physicality and they have more ability. You know, 635 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: if you take something away that's their bread and butter 636 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: to go in a different direction. If you take away 637 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: their passing game at USC, they've got nothing else to 638 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: lean on because they don't have the creative screens, they 639 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: don't have the run game. And the evidence of that 640 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: was last year's back twelve championship. Jon Tibodeaux just wrecked 641 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: their passing game and they couldn't beat him, now, is it. 642 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: Clay Hilton's a nice guy, but he's a very limited coach, 643 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: and yesterday a prime example against San Jose State. The 644 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: score is not indicative of the game at which thirteen 645 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: seven late their defense failed him out that this basically 646 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about USC. In 647 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: the current state. They open the game passing to open 648 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: up their running against Santo Is a state they have 649 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: so little confidence in their ability. They do not have. 650 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: They have sixteen or seventeen offensive linemen in the program. 651 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: They do not have a single NFL prospect in their 652 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: upper class group junior senior, not one. Andrew Vorhis is 653 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: probably an undrafted free agent they do not have. They 654 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: don't have any, So their best offensive linemen are like 655 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: red shirt freshman Courtland Ford left tackle and Monheim at 656 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: right tackle. It's and I try to tell USC fans 657 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: they are okay in the weakest five years stretch of 658 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve of my adult life, and they're still 659 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: not dominating it. This is as bad as it gets. 660 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: So it's like there have been times in my life 661 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: when you had Terry Donahue and Don James and John Robinson. 662 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean you had like Hall of Fame coaches. I 663 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: could say six of these guys in this conference probably 664 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: aren't going to last. So I just watched them yesterday 665 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, it's rinse and repeat. I don't think 666 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: you're harsh. Coaches tell you a lot by their opening series. 667 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: They tell you what they see on film. We can't 668 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: run on San Jose State well, and they tell you 669 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: what they desire their identity to be. That's their entire 670 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: offseason desire on tape is their first series or two 671 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: on offense or defense. This is who we think we are, 672 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: This is who we want to be. That's what you get. Okay, Finally, 673 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: you were very outspoken. The world agreed with you. If 674 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: I got a parking ticket, I shouldn't get thrown in jail. 675 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: It's a little too punitive for the action I'm watching 676 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: two to three times every Saturday football. As you pointed out, 677 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: it's fast, there's a regulated level of violence. I'm watching 678 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: guys get thrown out of football games. This targeting, I 679 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: just don't get it. There's no context to any of 680 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: these penalties, right, not only that, So, yes, you're a 681 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: thousand percent right about the context. Trying to measure intent, 682 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, is how I said it on the broadcast, 683 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: And I know that it's impossible to measure or to 684 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: view or to officiate intent. But part of the other 685 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: problem with this is that this is the most punitive 686 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: penalty in our sport. The only other thing that is 687 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: as punitive is literally fistfighting on the field, Okay, like 688 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: that's the only other thing that will just get you, 689 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: like an auto EGPT. And and the problem I have 690 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: with it is it is officiated as erratically as any 691 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: call in the sport. You can put up two different 692 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: clips and get everybody in the room disagreeing about both clips. 693 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: Like there's no consensus about even how to officiate it. 694 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: So how in the world do we take something that 695 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: is that erratic in its ability to be implemented and 696 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: attached the most punitive action you can take against a 697 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: player to that said penalty That doesn't make any sense, 698 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: That is insane to do. And the problem is is 699 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: that these commissioners have no appetite to change it or 700 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: to try to roll it back towards something that is 701 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: much more palatable for the college football fan because they 702 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be seen as being weak on safety measures. Okay, 703 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's garbage. Let me tell you why. 704 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 1: If they were really if they were really serious about 705 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: player safety and not just protecting themselves from a legislative 706 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: standpoint or not legislave from a litigation standpoint, then they 707 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: would address the college game clock rules, in which we 708 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: stop the clock all the time during the course of 709 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: the game, which leads to a higher volume of overall 710 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: snaps than in the NFL. Ye. Okay, so you're following 711 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: me here. If you were really in the mold of 712 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: saying you wanted to reduce the occurrence of head injuries 713 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: or help with player safety, you would adopt the NFL 714 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: game clock rules, and you would limit the number of 715 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: volume of snaps and in some cases you would limit 716 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: it by about a hundred for the season, which is 717 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: basically an entire game. So this is what this is 718 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: what drives me nuts as they sit there and're like, 719 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: we're so serious about player safety. No you're not. No, 720 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: you're not. All you're doing is protecting yourself from a 721 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: litigation standpoint and a concussion standpoint. You're not doing that 722 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to the volume of snaps that players 723 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: are having to say, you haven't even addressed the kickoff issue. 724 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: The XFL at least tried to address the kickoff and 725 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: I thought had a much better rule than what's in 726 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: football right now. So they won't look at that, but 727 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to eject players. Again. To sum 728 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: this up, I am absolutely fine with both categories of 729 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: targeting having a penalty throne and a flagdown, and I'm 730 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: fine with awarding first downs in fifteen yards. I'm even 731 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: fine with having two levels of targeting where if you 732 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: can judge some sort of malice or intent in terms 733 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: of using your head as a weapon, then you can eject. 734 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: But the fact is is that when we're having normal 735 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: course of football plays end in an ejection of a 736 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: football player, that's, like I said, that's egregious. It's a 737 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: disgrace and it needs to be changed. All right, you 738 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: got to go to your stuff. It's a holiday week 739 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: and I never do these, but I was so giddy 740 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: with all these games. I just couldn't control myself, and 741 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I gotta talk about this stuff. How 742 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: about the scene at Wisconsin. I know there were several 743 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: out there, and I thought there were a lot of 744 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: great scenes. I know, and like Kyle Field was a 745 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: great scene. Well, we experienced Gus and I and Jenny 746 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: at Camp Randall for Jack Round. Oh. I mean, I 747 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: couldn't speak and I just wanted to give it, you know, publicly. 748 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: I know I did it on Twitter. Our producer Chuck McDonald, 749 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: it was his idea and thankfully, like everybody in our 750 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: programming department was like, yeah, you know, we're going to 751 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: come back early. Figure out where to put those commercials 752 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the game so that we can cover, you know, 753 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: jump around live, not on tape. Hey, this is what 754 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: happened during the commercial live, what they were doing there, 755 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: you were experiencing at home, and so Chuck, that was 756 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: an amazing idea. Everybody at Fox said, yes, let's figure 757 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: it out. Our director did an amazing job shooting it, 758 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: bringing you into the stadium, and so Chuck McDonald, Rich 759 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: Dewey did an amazing job. I just wanted to give 760 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: them a huge shot. I got like emotional watching that, 761 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: Like I was emotional. I was sitting there like goosebumps 762 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: and choked up watching it seriously as a fan, Yeah, 763 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: it was incredible, saying sitting in the booth as I 764 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: was shaking Jenny's spinning down there on the on the 765 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: pure joy good scene, man, you as well have a 766 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: good day, budd. The volume