1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is media Match, 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, rumping wisdom and offering sizzling 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: your host, new He scrugs. Let's right media match on Tuesday. 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: New He Scrugs rolling with John Machoda of The Athletic 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: our friend, mister exclusive Exclusive. What they call me they 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: always have. We got we got somebody like put out 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: the fines. Put out the fines. Okay, Bobby, we've got 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: we got a late one. We got some. We got 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: a late one. We got some. Actually, there's an excuse. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I saw a big boss man, the Big Dog, Big 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: q Dog had a meeting upstairs. I saw a bunch 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: of people in there, Derek Eagleton. So I was like, 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: uh oh, now we're silent job. So okay, I'm here, Okay, okay, okay, 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I didn't I haven't gotten escorted up yet. Patrick Walker 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Downs dot Com joining us right now here on the 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: media mat Yeah. Science all right, gentlemen, it's it's real simple. 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go around the room. Jerry, you want 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: to talk about James Washington? Who James Washington? Jennis want 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: to come close to open up? You talk about Dennis Houston. 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about Nannisy Houston? I do. 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: With a matter of fact, Do the fans want you 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: to talk about Dennis Houston? That's a different to it 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: exactly the fans want you about James Washington. Or do 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the fans want you to talk about Odell Beckham Junior? 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: You know what the facts what Jerry Jones had to 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: say on your radio station three the fan. Yeah, I 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: mean techn question technically that you are gonna have to 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: talk about Dennis season because this isn't he wearing three now? 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to get that out. We're doing 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: or now Anthony Brett. Yeah, but at the offensive side, 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: he's he's got it on the practice squad right now. 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: So but mister Smith, you know, I don't know. No, 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm I can jump the gun a little bit, but no, 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: this is uh Yeah, the Jerry sounds genuinely interested in 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the idea. I don't think he'd entertain three questions about 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: it and talk as long as he did. I even 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: when I asked him the first question. I felt terrible 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: listening back to it. I was like, oh no, I 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: gave him an out because I had said I asked 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: him about Odell and I kind of couched it, and 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: I said, in the rest of your receiving Cord. I 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: was like, crap, he's gonna answer about their siving corn 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: and blow off the Odell question. And he didn't. He 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: went receiving Cord and he made sure to come back 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: to Odell and he took two more questions on it. 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: And so there's genuine interest there. Now you know, at 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: what point does their interest wane a little bit based 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: on price or anything else. I don't know. That remains 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: to be seen, but they definitely are interested in him. 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: First of all, fantastic, a lot of question. I don't 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, you nailed it. You didn't waste any time. 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Really get into the meat of what everybody wanted to 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: hear about, which was the Odell interest. And I mean, 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: the interest is obvious, and it was obviously even before 57 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Jerry came out and doubled and tripled down today and 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: speaking with one or five point three of him the fan. 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: But it's interesting the what I call the yo yo comment, right, 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: and you've done. You've seen this dance before where it's like, oh, well, we're, 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, very pleased with our guys, and we believe 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Ceedee lamb Is has everything that we could want in 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a wide receiver one, and Michael Gallup is approaching getting 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: back to Michael Gallup status. And then you got the 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: trio of tight ends who contribute as well. And then 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: you will have James Washington coming back here Paul's other 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: side of the mouth. It's so much appreciation for Odell. 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Beckham in the helmet with the star on his head 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: would look really good in Paul's come back to the 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: other side. And so it was a lot of that. 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, the Cowboys would, 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I believe, love to have Odell on the roster, but 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: they're not going to be the only team that feels 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: that way. The team that they're about to go and 75 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: play on Sunday really needs a wide receiver and they're 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: probably going to be willing to throw a bigger bag 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: at Odell than the Cowboys probably would, because the Cowboys 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: are not in dire straits at wide receiver. But a 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: team like Green Bay is now free agency is a 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: two way street. Odell has to choose his team, and 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: I think it would take much more money for a 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: thirty year old coming off of a second tour in 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: ACL to choose the frosty confines of lambeau Field versus 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Arlington in a dome. Last year he had that same option. Yeah, 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: and he went to LA. And in his text to 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons today, what do you mention? Waitning? Yeah, what's 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: not going on in green Bay right about now? Not 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: going on in LA or Green Bay? He mentioned he 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: mentioned his family too. You know he's like you, yeah, really, 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: when's the last time we saw Brian Goodkins come out 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: here and try to show anybody back at wide receiver? 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Fair aunt? It still wants you? Like, No, it makes 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: me wonder because you know, Aaron is throwing fits up there, 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: and if I'm if I'm La Fleur, I'm throwing fits 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: as well, because La Fleur is now I won the 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: hot seat. So I'm like, come on, man, like you 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of help put us in this situation, like give 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: me a guy. I mean literally, I don't think they 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: care Green Bay what coaches or players say. I just don't. 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: That's that's how they operate. And while the GM gets 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: a lot of grief. The man up top. It was 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy for Washing dB. He's the one in charge. 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's throwing. He's like, he go throw 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: Patrick Walker out there to go take the heat. But 105 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: you know he's up there running this thing and you 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: don't care. They don't care. Yeah, I would say so. 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Watching the snippet of his Complex magazine interview when he 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: talked about wanting to be somewhere that for the next 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: two or three years. For me, that took out Green 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Bay Buffalo no offense. I mean, I feel like I 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: can talk about this because I'm from Detroit, Like it 112 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: sucks being up in the cold like that, and if 113 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: you can and you have a lot of options, I 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: don't know why that would still be in there. The 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: winning part, obviously, I get all of that. But when 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: I heard him say that to me, and then the 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: winning part, it came down to cowboys and in chiefs, 118 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: just because in both those situations, you're you're in a 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: winning situation. Obviously, playing with Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, 120 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: I can understand why you would rather do that than 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: but the cowboys. It's also the star on your helmet 122 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: and there's no question that he would enjoy that. That's 123 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: something that I think will even lead to him maybe 124 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: taking a little bit less from the Cowboys. My concern 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys perspective or for Cowboys fans is is 126 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: this Cowboys organization has not been one to outbid anybody recently. 127 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, they outbidden for Randy Gregory, They're not outbidden. 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: They didn't even outbid for a Mary Cooper. Mark Cooper 129 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: took less to go to the Cowboys over Washington was 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: offering him. So this isn't a team that necessarily is 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: going to give you the highest dollar amount Dion Sanders 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: style deal. It's been a long time since that happened. 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: So but the other positive is that when this team 134 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: has made their biggest investments outside the building, it has 135 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: been why receivers, whether talking Galloway, Roy Williams, Umari Cooper 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and wide receiver has been the position and the way 137 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: everybody's been talking about it. While you talk about Jerry 138 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: on the radio today, Mike McCarthy yesterday, there's been nobody 139 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: completely shutting the door on it like they would if 140 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: it was somebody that they weren't really interested in. So 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: there's no question that there's interests there, but it will 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: be about, you know, which which one of these teams 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: are they going to have to bid against the most, 144 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: you know? And I heard him mention the Giants towo. 145 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand why the Giant. I don't understand why 146 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: he'd want to go back to the Giants that that 147 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't And then and then obviously there's the La perspective. 148 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I guarantee he likes that La lifestyle, right, And they're 149 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: not waiting and they are you talking about the teams. 150 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: It's got no care, right, they don't happen. I just 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: think with his like he's mentioned many of times and 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: conference calls with us before the Cowboys played whoever, the 153 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Browns and Giants. Whenever he's talked, it's always been about 154 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: how big part of his families from Dallas. There are 155 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboys fans. And then when he, like 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: I said an interview, when he started talking about going 157 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: someplace that he can get, you know, be home to 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: him and could be there for two or three years. Man, 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: that knocked the Cowboys really high up on the list 160 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: for me. And I probably rule out the Chiefs just 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: on the strength that they traded for Cordarius TONI right, 162 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: So they don't really have a knee there. I mean, 163 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd want to stack, because Kansas City is 164 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: a team that likes to stack a whole bunch of talent. 165 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: But they don't have like a dire need. So that 166 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: means that they're probably not going to get into a 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: bidding war anymore than the Cowboys would get into a 168 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: bidding war. So it might be a sleeper out there 169 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: somewhere because of a team. If people are throwing Buffalo 170 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: in the mix, then I wouldn't rule out a team 171 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: like Miami who wants to go all in. And now 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: you have Hill and Waterloo and OBJ, And then from 173 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: an OBJ perspective, Okay, well maybe he doesn't want to 174 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: go to Buffalo for the same reason. I don't believe 175 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: he'd want to go to Green Bay. That knee and 176 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that cold think about it, but from La to Miami. 177 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons has joined Twitter to express his interest in 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Michael recruiters. He tweeted, man, OBJ, talk to me, OBJ, 179 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Let's do this ish That's what he tweeted out. Then 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior responded, Lol, she you tell me you 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: know all the fam on my daddy's side down there. 182 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to win wherever I go. That's what 183 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior sent back to Michael Parsons. We had 184 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: this conversation on the players. Linda would ask you because 185 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Barry Church, former Cowboys safety, said I would have a 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: problem if I were Noah Brown or another player in 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: the receiver room. That here's Michael Parsons out here openly 188 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: trying to give my job away. John. I'll start with you. 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, well from me as a sportswriter or as 190 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: me as if I was a player, just your thoughts 191 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: on a period. I'm not that worried about Brown's feelings. 192 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: If I'm trying to win a Super Bowl, Wow, I 193 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: mean if we're talking about I mean me as a player, 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: I might feel a little bit different. But I'm trying 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: to get the best players out there. And that's not 196 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to sit here and say that NOA Brown doesn't have 197 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: a role. You just you go from being a number 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: three guy to the number four guy. And at the 199 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, this is a talent business. And 200 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: if somebody's better than you and your team has a 201 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: chance to get that guy, that they think is going 202 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: to put you over the top. I mean, I don't 203 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: know how you're in this business if you don't understand that, Like, 204 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: that's just part of the game, you know, it just 205 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: it's always going to be like that. From a player perspective, 206 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: a human perspective. If you Noah Brown, I get it. 207 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Of course you probably feel a way about it. But 208 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I liken it too. What's going on the defensive side 209 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: of the ball, Right, dan Quinn has that defense so 210 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: freaking stacked that there are guys, Hey, Tristan Hill just 211 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: got cut because they were so stacked. Right, you got 212 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: guys like Dante Fowler trying to crack the rotation at edge, 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Sam Williams trying to get more reps at the edge. 214 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Look at the safety unit, how deep they are the 215 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: linebacker courts your Bill Cox can't crack into that rotation. 216 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: But Damon Clark just did to help with the run defense. 217 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: So I say that to say from a coaching perspective, 218 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, you need to 219 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: be able to do with dan Quinny is doing on 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball and get everybody to buy in. 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: It's a buy in. Hey, I understand that these reps 222 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: would normally go to you. You'll see a reduction in 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: reps if we were to go and get OBJ. But 224 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: what's the greatest what's the greater good? Here? We're trying 225 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. So you're either completely bought 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: into this or you're nut. And if you're not, it's 227 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: time to find out. Okay, Robby, what's your favorite Jerry 228 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: McGuire quote. Nui, it's not your friends, it's your business. See, 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: I know, are you exactly? See? That's what it is. 230 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: It's it's business, all right. And so I think that 231 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: you know, Noah Brown, yeah, may bruise his ego a 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit. No Brown's got to recognize he's Noah Brown 233 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: and he's Odell Beckham. And Odell Beckham helps this football 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: team a lot more at this point. And look, they're 235 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: one thing that they they desperately need, I think on offense, 236 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: not just the receiver room, but something more specific than that. 237 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: They need like game breaking, like playmaker type of guys. 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: And that's Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham is a genuine playmaker, 239 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: not like that they have on this offense right now. 240 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: And so to me, I think that they need to 241 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: all have that realized I shouldn't recognize this is what 242 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: we need and this is what's best for the team. 243 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: In disrespect to Gallup. Just so, so here's my thing. 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I need to see it since he's come back from 245 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: the injury. You haven't seen it yet. Thank you, thank you, 246 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: thank you for mentioning it. What you said. Okay, you 247 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: need to see it because Gallup's coming back from a 248 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: kne injury. Whatso do Beck Junior come back from back? Charness, 249 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: he can come back from knee injury. Okay, I'm shown 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: he can come back from two because this is his second. 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying Gallup hasn't trying to see him back from one. 252 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: So so what I'm I'm looking at two guys we 253 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: we we say doubts. So maybe seventy percent right now? 254 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: No healthy, He's got to get over the hurdle. Okay, 255 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you've seen the fleshes of it. But but right he's 256 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: not where he was. He's still it, right, Okay, That's 257 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: why I'm so I'm saying he's about seventy percent of 258 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Michael Gallut that I'm used to see. You know, he's 259 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: getting there, but he's not where He's not where he 260 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: left on. He needs more game reps to get there 261 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: right right, And I don't think he'd have any problem 262 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: with this because he already got the bag and and 263 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: he's putting right back in a situation where he was before, 264 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: where it's it was it was a Marid and him, 265 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: and then it would be Odell him. I mean, but 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: here's where I'm going. So we got Michael Gallup, you 267 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: know right now, seventy percent getting trying to get to 268 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: a hundred. Here's gonna be Odell Beckham June. He could 269 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: come in a hundredercenty. So you may have two guys 270 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: that are running around maybe seventy percent of what we 271 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: know they can be. So you take twenty I'll tell 272 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I'll take seventy percent Odell Beckham over seventy percent Michael Gallup. 273 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: And again I think kind of what to what John's 274 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: talking about there, Michael Gallup's one hundred percent healthy. The 275 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: seventy percent that that remaining thirty percent I think in 276 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: a lot of ways is just in within the control 277 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: of him adapting to coming back. Like I mean, I 278 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: think you're talking about just different approaches and different players, 279 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Like we don't know that maybe Odell Beckham comes back 280 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: and he's further away from seventy percent of himself, but 281 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe he's further along because I think that's just a 282 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: personal feel for the game returning. And so to me, 283 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's done it once, I think he can do 284 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: it again if he's a hundred percent health. He's one 285 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, and I'm not worried about it. I mean, 286 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: there's certainly the aspect to it us as far as 287 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: experience goes, and it helps you hit the ground running 288 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: a lot quicker, and that Jerry alluded to when Jerry's 289 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: not wrong in that and saying, well, you know, when 290 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: you talk about the kind of experience that Odell Beckham has, 291 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: it kind of deletes the ambiguity when it comes to 292 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: is he an immediate fit? Fair enough, I agree with 293 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: Jerry on that point. But to your point, Nui, And 294 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: if we're talking about Michael Gallup, let's say Michael Gallup 295 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: is seventy seventy five percent now one, he's one hundred 296 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: percent healthy, so let's stake that again for the fans. 297 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: But but overall, let's say he's seventy seventy five percent 298 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: in comparison to what prime and Michael Gallup is right, 299 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: I would assume that give him another couple of weeks, 300 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: let's say by Minnesota. If not right after Minnesota, he's 301 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: back two hundred percent, Michael Gallup. So you might not 302 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: get one hundred percent od B O B J or 303 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: close to it until late December. And I get that's 304 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: the most thing. But you just temper your expectation, is 305 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's that ram? Anybody knows that though, 306 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and That's what I'm saying. So, but you got to 307 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: you gotta take a little bit of a gamble here, okay. 308 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: And I just think that that's a player that is 309 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: worth gambling. Okay. So so as we go around the 310 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: room right now, everybody raised in hand. It was Odell 311 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. Right now. I we've been talking about this 312 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: for weeks now, you're the one that we're trying to convert. 313 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Listen kar Rock with it. But here and I will 314 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: also say this, and I said this on Talking Cowboys 315 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: this morning. I would also need to make sure and 316 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be in on those talks, but 317 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: if I'm the Cowboys front office, a conversation needs to 318 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: be had to make sure that he has not necessarily 319 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: the Jason Peters thought process, but at least in that 320 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: same vein where it's like, look, CD is our one, 321 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Gallup is our two. We're going to award you three 322 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: because you're OBJ, but no one's gonna get rep set 323 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: you know as well. So just understand that you're not 324 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: coming into a situation like you were in New York 325 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: or in Cleveland, and you're not going to be expected 326 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: to be the guy. So you're not going to get 327 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the targets that the guy would get. And if you don't, don't, 328 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: don't you start. I want you to be von Miller. 329 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: If Vodell Beckham comes to the Cowboys, I would like 330 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: him to be Von Miller from the standpoint up von Miller, 331 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: who'd want to ring in Denver? Went to Aaron Donald 332 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: and said, it's too quiet a guy with your talent, 333 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: you need to be more vocal. You need to lead 334 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: this team were we can only go where you take 335 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: us to. The just unlocked the thing and showed him 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: what he needed to do. Yeah, I don't see him 337 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: having any there. I don't see any problems with this 338 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: receiving corps, with with him jumping into that room. I 339 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: just don't see that anybody button heads with him. I 340 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: think they I think they could use the juice anywhere. Yeah, 341 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: if anything, they need more of that because they do 342 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: miss the disc aspect of depression that's in the w Yeah. No, no, no, no. Look, look, honestly, 343 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I think I think people inside the organization will tell 344 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: you they've missed that. In practice, they missed They've missed 345 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: that Monday through Saturday. Absolutely, they missed it. They missed, 346 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: they missed the plus plus. I'm just one of these 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: people that I've been saying all season long, and I'm 348 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: sticking with it. I just feel like for this team 349 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, they're gonna have to add 350 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: a piece outside the building. I just don't think they 351 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: will one hundred percent draft, develop and win a Super Bowl. 352 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: I think that it's does it and I think that 353 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a that is a that is one of those pieces. 354 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I know you were there on a couch uh with 355 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: a member of the front office at Boo UH and 356 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: we were talking about some people getting a guy might 357 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: put you over the top. Remember you mentioned von Miller. Uh. 358 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I think that this has the potential of being something 359 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: like that. That's why, that's why it more intriguing than me, 360 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: especially with the trade deadline pass your chances of adding 361 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: somebody to this team, to a league that's wide open, 362 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: that this, this is this is the best possibility I 363 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: can see. Okay, you're okay, of course I don't know 364 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: the details on what the contract will be thought oboted, 365 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: That's fine. That's when I worked in I was out 366 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: voting with Shock and everybody else who wanted Dinnis Robin. 367 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I was against Dinnis Robin. 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Back to Mediamash 409 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Mediamash on a Tuesday, joined by Bobby Belt one oh 410 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: five three the Fan. He helped interview Jerry Jones today 411 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: for the Jerry Jones Show it which you can catch 412 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: every Tuesday at eight thirty am. Then you got John 413 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Shoulder of the Athletic Nobody is writing and tweeting out 414 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: everything that happens from that pressure, like my man John, 415 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: He's on it. I gonna lie, I've been lazy the 416 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks I have I've slept or I've 417 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: been doing my schoolwork and I just go check John's 418 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: Twitter page for us. We all do. That's the dirty 419 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: secret of the media. We just checked John's Twitter for 420 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: what he's what he's put together, and I also check 421 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: your your Twitter page as well. Patrick Walker, I checked, 422 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: as I learned also after press conferences not to talk 423 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: to John because he's immediately rolling. Then he gets in 424 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: his own so I'm like, okay, let him, let him 425 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: do his thing, and then after he's finished, you know, 426 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: posting some of that stuff, then go have that conversation 427 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: with him. Now I'll just talk with Claire's afterward, because 428 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Claire says, ready to you know, he's not tweeting Johnald 429 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: cussy out until you get out of his face. Yeah, 430 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: that's cool, man, that's cool. So it's all good. So um, 431 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Michael Keelkin broke him. He broke him on Monday, 432 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: got him to tear up talking about going back to 433 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and I thought he said something I found 434 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: pretty interesting when to get everybody's thought on this, where 435 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: he said, all right, I spent that year away in 436 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: his barn in Green Bay, so he doesn't recommend a 437 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: body stay of the town, but you would let go. 438 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: But he said he got a lot of advice, and 439 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: he got a lot of advice that was bad that 440 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: he should not have listened to. He would not go 441 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: into detail about what he got that was bad. Let's speculate. 442 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll start, Oh my gosh, friend Mike Nolan calls and says, 443 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: I can run there. I got this, you owe me. 444 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: That was my first thought, Like, oh so, and we 445 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: got Jim tom Seweller to come with us. That was 446 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: my first thought. But anyway, that was just me. I 447 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: did I did want it, because Jory Epstein followed up 448 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: with the question of you know, can you tell us 449 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: what what what? What was wrong? So anyway, I was 450 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: just my thought. I was curious about that. I'm aren't 451 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: there with you. As soon as he said that, my 452 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: brain went right to Mike Nolan and Jim Thomsela. And 453 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: for me, it I don't I can't imagine that whatever 454 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: advice he received in that year off could have been 455 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: worse than being convinced to bring on Nolan and Thompsela. 456 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: And credit to him because it only took a year 457 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: for him to be like you know what, you're out 458 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of here, like big mistakes might have had some help 459 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: from the Jones. Jim haslet as his defensive coordinator coach 460 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: in the barn with him, so I thought, hazlet allow 461 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: him to be here in some form or fashion. But anyway, 462 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that was that was just my thought. Did you do 463 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: you even think about it? I mean, you're tweeting away. 464 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I think about it, But I don't think anything would 465 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: be close to that, Okay, I mean, I mean he 466 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: obviously said that, you know, the way everything ended in 467 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay left a dent, which I thought was interesting. Um, 468 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: but the idea of him staying up there I think 469 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: was probably his biggest regret, just because it's not like 470 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: like let's say, you know, you get fired as the 471 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys head coach, but you still live in Dallas. 472 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Well that's or Plano or Frisco or Arlington or four 473 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Allen or something. Yeah, that's It's there's Green Bay and Buffalo? 474 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: Are there just the two teams that you're just you're 475 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: right in it? You know. When I think he mentioned 476 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: yesterday about when he was getting rehab for some type 477 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: of injury, heads, yeah, he's like sitting there right next up. 478 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Because there's probably only so many places that you can 479 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: get that done in Green Bay and so, but in 480 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: terms of coaching and between then and then taking the 481 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys out, I don't think there's anything that's as close 482 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: to what you mentioned. It was funny Broadus and I 483 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: were doing our podcast and he was telling the story 484 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: about when he worked in Green Bay that he can 485 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: still hear the snow plows at five in the morning, 486 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: that the maintenance guys for the team would put on 487 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: their trucks and go by to everybody's house and shovel 488 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: snow out of their driveway in order for them to 489 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: get to work, Like that's the type of small community 490 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: that they were in. And so, yeah, I bet that's 491 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: part of it. I bet the whatever bad advice he 492 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: got was it's probably advice we It wasn't about to 493 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: hire anything some of I'm sure Mike Nolan and Jim 494 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: tom Lula he regrets that. But I bet a lot 495 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: of the advice was just ways he's operated in his 496 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: first year back that he learned from when everything went 497 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: really wrong, and he just went, Okay, this leadership style 498 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: needs to be different, or maybe I need to approach 499 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: this relationship different. It's stuff we probably wouldn't know about 500 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: unless he told us, But you know, I think that 501 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: it's clear he probably that there were things that he 502 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: changed up after his first year, because I think just 503 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: the culture around here, regardless of the results, I think 504 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: you can tell the culture is different. And obviously that 505 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: was a COVID here where we weren't in the locker room, 506 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: but you could see it wasn't healthy in twenty twenty 507 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, I think, And so I 508 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: think he learned from that because it's it's functioned a 509 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: lot more different, I think in these last two years. 510 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Also a lot of free agents, particularly in defense that 511 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: he added that first year. We're a lot of swings 512 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: and misses that typically the Cowboys haven't had. You know, 513 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: there's oh yeah, all of them, Don Terry Pose, Jerod 514 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: mccour don Terry Poe, Gerald McCoy, Aldon Smith, Everson Griffin, 515 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Daryl Worley, go down the line. It was everybody. And 516 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: then it's funny because they bounced back the next year 517 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and they hit almost everybody under one. 518 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Uh said dan Quinn Guy. That dan Quinn Guy might 519 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: know what he's doing over there coaching matters, but also 520 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: just how about a guy who says, hey, let me 521 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: see what Patrick Walker does well, and let's do that. 522 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: Because one of the things that frustrating me after listening 523 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: to McCarthy the first year. You guys remember the press conference, 524 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: It's about players, not about scheme. That's what Mike kept preaching. 525 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan came in and here's my scheme. You guys 526 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: fit it, and people were buying into this. I mean, 527 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: you take Layton Vanderesh Okay makes makes the Pro Bowls 528 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: a weak side lineback. We're gonna throw them in the middle. Guy, 529 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: make you what are we doing the right? So so 530 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: for me that was that I was frustrated by watching 531 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: Nolan do that, but also frustrate because Mike McCarthy you 532 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: said it's going to be the players over the scheme 533 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: and that was not. Defensively, here comes Dan Quinn and 534 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: I was I was skeptical. It's like, you know, look 535 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: at what happened in Atlanta and you know what you 536 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: I was head coach though, you know what dope? But 537 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: but he remember I've said this before, I gotta say 538 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: it again. I'm sorry. But like being a growing up 539 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: as a Detroit Lions fan, like I get annoyed when 540 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: people say, look what he did in Atlanta. He took 541 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: him to the pinnacle. It's the Atlanta Falcons. Like what 542 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: he did for the Atlanta Falcons. But if you if 543 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I go to Detroit right now and go, hey, would 544 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you sign up for dan Quinn doing him what he 545 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: did with the Falcons, for the for the Lions for 546 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: next five years, everybody would get lines say yes, absolutely, 547 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: where do we sign up? Like it? Like it like 548 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: like I don't. I'm sorry, I'm just saying, like, people 549 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: bring that up so much. He took he took the 550 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl. High so we grew 551 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: up with a high stand. Okay, I say, literally, he's 552 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: a North Carolina guy. No, but that was actually when 553 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: thanks to seventy said with that station forth Hood, that 554 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: was when I first learned about professional football. So you've 555 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: got you've got high so North Carolina fan around the Cowboys, 556 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: around the Lakers front runner. I knew he was. Hey, Hey, 557 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: as a guy that likes Duke basketball in Florida State football, 558 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: you need a little you need a little Matt Patricia 559 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: and Matt Millen in your life to just straighten you 560 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: out and know what rock Bottom is OK. I'm with 561 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: John a Yankee. Oh yeah, look like I think I think, 562 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I think I think the dinged reputation of Dan Quinn 563 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: was kind of outrageous, but like I mean, because you 564 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: saw what not only what he did, just his long 565 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: history of just the way people talked about what he 566 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: did at Florida and Seattle when he got to Atlanta. Like, 567 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: I think it was just you know, Brian, Brian brought 568 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: us this quarter before. Tom de Mitroff told him this, 569 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: and he talked about on the air. Tom to Mitroff 570 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: told him, like we were a quarter away from all 571 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: keeping our jobs. But like if we went that Super Bowl, 572 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: we have you know, credibility built up. That thing don't 573 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: fall apart as quickly as it did. It just it 574 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: didn't work out that way, and account was benefited from it. 575 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: Looked at the Rangers, but Josh Hamilton, you know, hit 576 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: two run Homer. They should have been an iconic home run, right, 577 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. He has a contract, he's never an 578 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: angel washing. I mean, so a whole lot of stuff 579 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: finish it off too. But my thing was just simply 580 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: say his name with Atlanta. It fell apart and people 581 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: were saying this defense is good, and you have the 582 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: mojo had been lost, and then he likes they're trying 583 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: to get him back to do a show. Can't help himself, 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: He can't help him. So but dan Quinn went and 585 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: did a deep dive with himself and he came out 586 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: a better head coach. And I think that's been you 587 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: know what, what's really we've seen from him? And I 588 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: expect him to get a call from the Indianapolis Scults. 589 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: By the way, well, I just and I'm right there 590 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: with John on when it comes to assessing dan Quinn. 591 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: I said this win because initially Georget was a front 592 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: runner to be defensive coordinator here. And then the only 593 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: thing I believe that really could have bumped Georget, which 594 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: would have been an acquisition like Dan Quinney, because that's 595 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: a whale as a defensive coordinator. And then when that happened, 596 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people were like they were pointing at Atlanta. 597 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: O would look how poorly things went in Atlanta. And 598 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: my question to those people have has always been, well, 599 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: who was who was calling the defensive plays and who 600 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: was calling the offensive place? Because for all this chagrin 601 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: that gets thrown at Dan Quinn for the failure, the 602 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: epic failure in the Super Bowl when they were only 603 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: one quarter away. But everybody keeps praising the offensive. The 604 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: former offensive coordinator of the Falcons who was responsible for 605 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: getting away from the run, and they suddenly want to 606 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: become passed at, passed out, blamed three. That's Quinn and 607 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: and Shanahan. But at the same time, when the winning 608 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: was happening, he was getting praised for the defense. But 609 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: you know that, so so if you're getting the pre 610 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: you gotta take the blame. That's But but the whole 611 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: the whole program fell off. That's which is not surprising. 612 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: You lose an epic fashion like that, it's really hard. 613 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, very few people can do it. Pull a 614 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Don shuland go from a twenty four to three laws 615 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: and go go undefeated the next year. Most folks are 616 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: going down. And he did, and his things suffered, and he, 617 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: in that process of having watched it all fall apart, 618 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: said let me go and figure out what do I 619 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: need to do. What He talked to enough people and 620 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I get the guy a whole lot of credit, which 621 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: is why I think it was foolish for the Denver 622 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Bronc goes not to hire last year, here's the guy 623 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: that clearly went in did the dive, and she said, 624 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: I need to do this differently, and he came out 625 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: of monster. And I think somebody, they don't hire this 626 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: man next year. National Football League folks are trying to 627 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: win the hard What I mean, he said it, and 628 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean I recognize, like, you know, it could just 629 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: be coach peaking. I mean, he said consistently for the 630 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: last you know, eighteen months, he's happy where he's feet 631 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: are planning, and then he's happy where you I just 632 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how much I know. I know, But after 633 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: the experience he had in Atlanta, I don't, I just 634 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: I wonder, is he totally eager to just go jump 635 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: back into that. No, No, for the right I'm sure. 636 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure for I'm sure for the right job. But 637 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: who's to say, like if we look at the jobs 638 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: to come up, and is like, is he just dying 639 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: to get to Dye. No? No, I don't think he's 640 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: far enough removed from what happened, which is why I 641 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's far enough removed. I don't think it's enough. 642 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: And then there's this added aspect of the talent that 643 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: already exists. So I think what would also play a 644 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: large part in that is number one Michael Parsons. So 645 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: obviously the coach have Shaq Leonard, right, So but as 646 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: as elite as Shaq Leonard is, Parsons is generational, okay, 647 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: and you haven't Michael Parsons. If the Cowboys can retain 648 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Trevann Diggs, I mean, you this this personnel, 649 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: it's not something that you want to walk away from 650 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: if if you already have the blank check, as it 651 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: appears that he might. So the only thing that could 652 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: really wool him away is the guy was going to 653 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: Denver last year the GM wanted to hire. Yeah, they 654 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: pull up the rightest type they pulled the guy was 655 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: going to put the road. Then you get where they had. 656 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson didn't, right, So if he and I'm just saying, 657 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: if he, if he thinks he can Russell Wilson, he's 658 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: around him, that might even want him to go there 659 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: even more. He knows Russ. But but John Elway and 660 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: and I think it was Joe Ellis, but they pulled 661 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: the Ruggs. So the man is gonna go. Ye, I'm 662 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: sorry you you you have a twenty eight to three 663 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: lead and you lose that, do you want redemption? All 664 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: day long? I read Jimmy Johnson's book Swagger, and he 665 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: talks about that Fiesta Bowl loss to Penn State, how 666 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: he was crying on the floor and he came back 667 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: that made me a better coach. And I'm sorry, I 668 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: just think we gotta do. You know, Listen, I'm not 669 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: saying Dan will never be a head coach again, So 670 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: don't take what I'm saying as that. I'm not saying 671 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: that bonny stretch of the imagination. My statement is simply, 672 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if whatever might come available next season, and 673 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: it might be Denver again, because as heck's gotta get 674 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: about it. Heck, it's gotta be gone. He's got to 675 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: be going, and obviously he's gonna be here next year. 676 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: So but thin he's gone there, he ain't gonna be 677 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: like special assistant or something on this staff that happened, 678 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: don't you well, you can only have one John, Don't 679 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: you put that evil. I'm just saying, no, No, I've 680 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: already before he's gonna be here. He will be here, yeah, Oh, 681 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean unless he unless he has like another like 682 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: an OC or a quarterback job or something like another team. 683 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: But he will he will be on some staff, and 684 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. He was like, he's some staff, Yeah, 685 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: Kellen More, I wouldn't be surprised if it's here, he 686 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't get that job. But I'm just saying, can I 687 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: remember that Devers the organization on the table? Denver's the 688 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: organization that didn't walk away from Van's Joseph either, like 689 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: we're one and done in alway, refuse I'm talking about 690 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: like I'm talking about that consulting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, 691 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: there's just no I just I'm saying this. I think 692 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: it is for the right job, he'd go. I don't 693 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: think there's any guarantee that the right job it will 694 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: be one of these ones that comes over there. You 695 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: go a few fifth book, you're you're correct. But I'd 696 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: also say this, if there's ever a guy who can 697 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: sell a job properly and could recommend other people to say, 698 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty good guy to work for, it's Jim Ursay. 699 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: Pick up the funny called Tony Dungeon, the guy who 700 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: just put Saturday. He he's yeah, they got their coach 701 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: what are you worry about? You know what I'm saying, 702 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: we're applying a whole lot of credibility to Jim Er. 703 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm willing. I don't. I don't 704 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: know that necessarily. Yeah, I don't know that. If Saturday 705 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: thing doesn't work out, he might go for Jim Nance. Yeah, 706 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: if the Jeff Saturday thing don't work out, you know 707 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: what you really are? Dan? What do you need? Yeah? Dan? What? 708 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: But but there's also the aspect of there's this Sean 709 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: Payne guy. The coach might be willing because it obviously 710 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: they're going to put in a call to Dan Quinne. 711 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: I thought we can all agree, well, if they tank 712 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: like it looks like they're going to, and they'd actually 713 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: be an organic or otherwise Sean, Sean will get his 714 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: quarterback because it'll be a top pick in the draft. 715 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: I I think there's a strong possibility that mister mister quinns, 716 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: mister unlamited coaching, you would be crazy singing in the 717 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: world him. But I do think he's he's gone Norwood 718 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: Payton up there. I'm just saying, I just I don't 719 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: say why, I don't I'm not hearing Sean Payton connected 720 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: to the coach, and I don't know why this is this. 721 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why he's on the contract. No, they 722 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: the Coats at this point. If things continue to deep 723 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: be derailed as they look like they will be, they 724 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: will be willing to give compensation to New Orleans for 725 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: show one like Sean. So that's what I'm saying, Like 726 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: that's of no consequence. They will throw that get the 727 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: man a quarterback. I'm telling you it might be the 728 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: top picks. 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Back to media mash, 770 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: maybe a mash On a Tuesday, As the Cowboys get 771 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: ready to face the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field, 772 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy makes his return trip to Green Bay since 773 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: he was let go buy the team. John showed to 774 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: the Athletic we got Patrick Walker doas Cowboys dot com, 775 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: we got Bobby Belt one five three the fan Healthy 776 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: interview with Jerry Jonees today. Nice job, I know exactly 777 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: how that feels, and um, I'm so glad I don't 778 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: have to look at the fan text anymore. I wasn't 779 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: during the interview, didn't bother during the interview. It is 780 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: a no win proposition trying to do that interview. Um, 781 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: hold him accountable? Yeah you saw, Oh he showed. Let 782 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: me tell you what I'd ask him? Shut out? Yeah? Yeah, 783 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: so that for his autograph? Do you finally hold him accountable? 784 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: That's what they'd ask him for his autograph? Yeah, exactly. 785 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: When we talk about Mike partly real quick, sure, just 786 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: because he broke down yesterday and we don't tend to 787 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: see that side of him. There is a pretty good 788 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: article up right now on The Athletic from our Packers 789 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: writer Matt Schneidman. Yeah, he got a one on one 790 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: this morning with Aaron Rodgers just to ask him all 791 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: stuff about Mike McCarthy, and it was really good. The 792 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: one the quote that really stood out to me is 793 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: he said that, Um, where was it? He said, He's 794 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: an extremely bighearted person. He has a tremendous heart for people, 795 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: and really and he really cares and underneath that Pittsburgh 796 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: toughness grit is a big softie, a guy who really 797 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: has a big heart. And cares about his people. That's 798 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: how I describe him. And but the other thing that 799 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: I really thought was interesting too is and Mike kind 800 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: of mentioned this yesterday but he didn't really get into it, 801 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: is that Aaron said that him and Mike would there 802 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: be times where they would always come to each other 803 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, we need to talk. Whether 804 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: it's you know, you come up to my office, we're 805 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: talking about practice, whatever like that, and they would always 806 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: kind of have a back and forth, and he said, 807 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: sometimes to be calm. Sometimes it would get heated, but 808 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: always at the end it would end every single time 809 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: with a hug and him saying I love you, I 810 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you, and thanks for this conversation. And man, I 811 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: hate that I bring this up because it makes me 812 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: forget about this. He has a sign in his office 813 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: that he had back in the barn too, and I 814 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: can't remember exactly how it's worded, but it's basically how 815 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: he embraces the confrontation. He wants you to, uh, you know, 816 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be all perfect and and you know, 817 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: everything going smoothie like. He likes that, you know, guys 818 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: will go back and forth and he wants to have 819 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: those arguments and things like that because I bring it 820 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: up because I don't think we really see that side 821 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy. You know, we see a guy that 822 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: he jokes around a lot in the media. I mean 823 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: even more so over the last couple of years, especially 824 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: when he's doing press confers and stuff like that, and 825 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: you really don't see him on the sidelines. How many 826 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: times have you really seen him other than maybe like 827 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: screaming at a raft like you never see him do 828 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: that with like a player, and you can tell that 829 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: just part of his persona that he's not going to 830 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: do that in front of the cameras that but he 831 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: does have those moments, you know, kind of behind the 832 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and I bugs me. Now I can't 833 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: remember what what the exact science saying is. But we 834 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: had a coach here once who really enjoyed confrontation and 835 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: he would talk overlying the press conference about hey guys, 836 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: hey fellas, a little confrontation is good. And that was 837 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels, and I I think you have to have 838 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: that as a leader. Um was listening to a gentleman 839 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: always have to be in like in front of the camera. Though, 840 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: I think true this is true, gentleman and kin boyer. 841 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: He gave a great talk over to TCU and he 842 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: said leadership is a contact sport. And that's what makes 843 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: me think of what you said about Aaron Rodgers and 844 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy. I'm sorry, if you're coaching a football 845 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,479 Speaker 1: team and you're coaching a high level quarterback, you're gonna 846 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: have some times you gotta get into it. I think 847 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: about the times when Phil Simpson sitting there yelling at 848 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: the Bill parcels, or when when Bill would get frustrated 849 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: with Drew blttsoe, this happens. Had their moments too, Yes, 850 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: and this happens. And you know, Lord knows w you 851 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: talk about with swagger, Jimmy Johnson had it. So I 852 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: do think that that's what you have to do. You 853 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: can't be afraidse you go do it. If you're not 854 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: the kind of person who doesn't want to do it, 855 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: you need to have someone else who got who goes 856 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: and dies. Um, conflict is good, that's the sign. Sorry, 857 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: I was driving him crazy. Great great payoff. It was 858 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: driving him crazy. Well what did you text McCarthy and say, Hey, 859 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: what's the sign your office? Se? No, I just h 860 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: there was a couple of different videos that he are 861 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: a couple of different interviews he did with Peter King 862 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: and Tom Pellisoro after Green Bay in the Barn, and 863 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: so I knew that there were some pictures of the 864 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: barn online somewhere. So John would have been a good PI. 865 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: Just didn't first forty Dog with the bone, Dog with 866 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: the bone that John could have been good at the 867 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: wire working the bunk, Yeah, John and working together, good 868 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: stuff he could have worked. It could have worked for 869 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: string too. John's play from cranbrook snoop walking rolling around 870 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: with snooping John right here? What they're going to do 871 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: over there, Joe? So who's Marlow win that equation? That's 872 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: a good question. Hang out, Weed Bay. You want things 873 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: to be one way, but they're the other way. Your 874 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: thought level about this Green Bay game? UM, I hate 875 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: to be this way because I'm usually not but really 876 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: not worried about this game. From the standpoint, if the 877 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 1: Cowboys just go out and play their game, they should 878 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: win this football game. Green Bay's got a lot of 879 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: issues right now that that I just don't see being fixed. 880 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: Before the season, I picked Green Bay and missed the playoffs, 881 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: and I had Minnesota win the division. Dallas's best game 882 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: beats green Bay's best game, and there's a much better 883 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: chance Dallas plays their best game. I think think green 884 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: Bay does, just from what we've seen from the Packers lately. 885 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: And so to me, to me, I just think I 886 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: don't see I think you're right. I don't have the 887 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: normal concern I would have about this, and maybe that's 888 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: lulled into a confidence ultimately we're gonna be going, well, 889 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: how did this one fall? Apart? In that Lambeau Aaron Rodgers, 890 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, you just you doubted him too much. But 891 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: to me, it's like I've been waiting for the Packers 892 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: to wake up for three weeks, and every time it's like, Okay, 893 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: this is the one Nope, Okay is this one no? 894 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: And so it's like yeah, and I don't know. You've 895 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: got Aaron Rodgers throwing two picks in the red zone 896 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: and just not you know, making three in the red zone, 897 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: two within like the two yard line. I think he 898 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: had three red zone picks through the air in the 899 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: red zone, but that first toss was outside the twy. 900 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: But either way, like you're talking about like passes that 901 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: were intercepted when the ball was caught, it's inside the 902 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: five yard line, and that's totally unlike him, and so 903 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: I just I'm not worried about this one. Really. The 904 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: only concern I have is because Aaron Rodgers is on 905 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: the field. That's the only concern I have. And I 906 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: feel like Aaron Rodgers is going to make a couple 907 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: of plays into Bobby's point. You know, just the NFL 908 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: as a whole, we know too much of Aaron Rodgers 909 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: to not believe that sooner or later he's going to 910 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: have the game. The only question for the Green Bay 911 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: Packers is is it going to be too late in 912 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: the season four to even matter? And for the Cowboys, 913 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: you're just hoping that you're not the team on the 914 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: opposite side of when it happens. I don't I don't 915 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: know that that happens this Sunday in Green Bay. This 916 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: defense is just it's maniacal. Uh. The only thing that 917 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: they really need to improve upon is the run defense, 918 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: which is why they brought in Jonathan Hankins. I think 919 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins is going to improve that the interior run defense, 920 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: But that's not where they were really getting beat at 921 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: anywhere as far as the rushing attack of the opponent goals. 922 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: It's on the age of edges, which goes to the 923 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: linebacker corps. But you know, Aaron Jones is banged up, 924 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: got banged up on Sunday. You're talking about left tackle 925 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: David Botier. He's still battling knee injury, knee issues. He 926 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: might miss some snaps in game, might not miss some snaps. 927 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: Even if he doesn't miss snaps and plays one hundred percent, 928 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: he's not healthy and he's going against the best pass 929 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: rush in the NFL. The secondary is one of the 930 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: best secondaries in the NFL. Trayvon Diggs, and you look 931 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: at that safety unit. Donovan Wilson being able to drop 932 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: down and help Malie Hooker is coming back. For me, 933 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to get a couple big plays. 934 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be enough. I think 935 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 1: the Cowboys win this game, not necessarily off the strength 936 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to beat the you know, the bricks 937 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: off of Aaron Rodgers, which is possible with this defense, 938 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: But for me, it's because I think Dak Prescott with 939 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: the return of Ezekiel Elliott in that tandem with Tony 940 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: Pollard and more chemistry. We've seen it starting to ramp 941 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: up between Lamb and Gallup. This is a Packers defense 942 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: that can be had. It can be had on the ground, 943 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: it can be had in the air. They lost Eric 944 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: Stokes for several weeks last I checked. They most certainly 945 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: lost Rashaun Gary to a tourin ACL. He was leading 946 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: the team in sacks at six sacks. He was third 947 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL in pressures. So that's where the Cowboys 948 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: are going to dominate, I believe, and then from there 949 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: the defense can just pick the meat off the bone. Yeah, 950 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: it's just an Aaron Rodgers thing for me. If he 951 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: if he had his best game of the season, they 952 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: can beat the Cowboys. But that Aaron Rodgers that I 953 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: saw last week, I mean, the Lions are a team 954 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,959 Speaker 1: going into that game. When he started and finished games, 955 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: he was eighteen and three against the Lions is absolutely 956 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: on them. And it wasn't just the interceptions. It was 957 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: how he threw the interceptions. It was the miss wide 958 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: open receivers that looked nothing like the Aaron Rodgers that 959 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: I've seen for the last teen plus years. One matchup 960 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: that I do think will be interesting is that Anthony 961 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: Barr is supposed to be back for this game. Let's 962 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: remember Anthony Barr's sack on Aaron Rodgers is the reason 963 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: why that they have the rule of why you can't 964 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: land on top of a player. And if you guys 965 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: remember that, that's when he broke his collar bone and 966 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: exchanged some words with Anthony Barr after that particular play. 967 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: So that'll be one to keep an eye on. But 968 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: certainly I don't know how they will keep this pass 969 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: rush off Aaron Rodgers. But if he plays anything like 970 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: he did on Sunday, the Cowboys will blow them out. 971 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, John Shu, Patriqualker, Bobby Belt, the media 972 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: match for two day Annue scripts will do it again 973 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow right here, oh on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Rady. 974 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 975 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club,