1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexon and you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Drivers and Buck 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Sexon podcast Network. Hello and welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and today we have a very serious 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: conversation about the trans movement, and I'm really glad that 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Ali London agreed to join me. Alie is I guess 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: I would say maybe de transitioning. We're going to hear 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: exactly what that means, and we're hearing more about folks 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: de transitioning these days, but a lot of times that's 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: getting pushed out of the news to make room for 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: celebrating young people who are making permanent changes to their 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: bodies to transition. So we just want to get kind 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: of deep and real into Allie's journey. So Ali, thank 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: you for joining me today. Thank you. It's a real 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: pleasure to be speaking with you. Tuda Well, I am 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: really excited about it. You have a unique story because 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: you were a transgender person you still identify as transracial, 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: So I want you to talk a little bit about 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: what that means, how you decided to get there, and 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: what you feel life is going to be going forward. 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: So just give us a little update on how how 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: you decided to make these changes. Right, So what happened 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: as a kid, I was always a lot more feminine. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, some boys prefer girls toys and some girls 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: are tomboys, which you know can be very normal. So 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: I was always a little bit more feminine. And then 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: with what happened when I was in high school, I 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: started getting breakouts on my skin. And when you're going 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: through puberty, you really start to kind of hate the 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: way you look and struggle with your identity. And I 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: used to get bullied very severely every day because of 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: the way I looked a little soon because I was 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: more feminine than the other boys in my class. So 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I used to get picked on when we would go 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: to swimming class. You know, people would say I was 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: like a woman because I had kind of fat around 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: my chest so it looked like almost breasts. And I 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: actually later had the surgery to remove all that. So 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, I used to get bullied all the time, 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: being called feminine or ugly and you know, like a monster. 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: So I had a really really tough time. And then 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: when I became an adult, I actually moved to South Korea, 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: and I was living in Korea. It's an amazing culture, 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: and I kind of fell in love with K pop, 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: which is, you know, this really fun, energetic, happy music. 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's really as beautiful music, and you know, 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: it was a chance for me to reinvent myself. I 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,279 Speaker 1: saw all of these pop stars, all of these billboards, 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: and you know, as in America and maybe in Los Angeles, 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: people go to a plastic surgeon, maybe they have a 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: picture of Kim Kardashian, they say, doctor, make me look 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: like this woman. So I started out, I was like, okay, 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I need to you know, I need to have a 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: picture of what I kind of want to look like 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: when I go to the plastic surgeon. So I, you know, 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I started showing them a picture of a pop star 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: in Korea. I was like, can you try and make 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: me look like this if possible? And then what happened 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: is I had that initial surgery, which was my nose, 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: and then I started getting more surgeries over time, and 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: it really became like a snowball effect. I mean, it 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: was really kind of body dysmorphia. I had questions of 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: my gender, and then the more surgery I do, I 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: then started to still be unhappy, and I thought, you know, 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: everybody around me was telling me I was meant to 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: be a woman, I should be a girl. You know, 67 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: every time I went on TikTok tuned up, all the 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: videos I saw were trans people, not binary people. So 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: then I was just like, you know, maybe this is 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: something I do you think that was? Do you think 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: that was you were targeted because you had looked at 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: some of them? I mean, I know when I see something, 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: I just start to see that over and over again. 74 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: And generally I get these strange videos of how you 75 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: can decorate cakes, but then it once I watched one, 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I am constantly barraged with how you can decorate cakes? 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that algorithm really is affecting how young 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: people are thinking? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I wrote a 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: book about my kind of gender identity Strugs, and I 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: covered the effects of social media. So what happened? So 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: TikTok came about in twenty eighteen, and originally it was 82 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: just very innocent lip syncing videos, dance videos, and then 83 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: during the time of the pandemic, the videos started to change, 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: so not just for my algorithm, but for every younger's 85 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: interesting you know, they started to see videos of people 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: sharing their transition journey, so they have, you know, day 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: one of being a girl, then day ten, you know, 88 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: like a bit like this dyllermolphone and that's all I 89 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: started to see Tudor and you know a lot of 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: other young people, they're exposed to these videos day in 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: and day out, and it's almost indoctrination because when you 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: see something so many times, it becomes normalized. So I'd 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: seen as so many times and everybody around me was like, 94 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: you're more feminine. I remembered as a kid, people would 95 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: bully me for that. So then I thought, you know, 96 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: maybe the answer to my identity struggles is the fact 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm trans everybody's telling me, even TikTok was telling me. 98 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: So that's when I transitioned. And it's interesting because during 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: the time of my transition, I was literally addicted to TikTok. 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: I was spending eight hours a day, I was making videos, 101 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I was looking at videos, and I was absolutely addicted. 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: And you know, now I barely use TikTok because I 103 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: know it's it's become very harmful and toxic, and I'm 104 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: much happier. So I really think, you know, social media 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: does have a big part, certainly with me and certainly 106 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: with so many young people. Why do you think that 107 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: because you've said publicly that people were very supportive of 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you becoming transgender, and you just said that there was 109 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: almost a push like this is who you are, you 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: have to be there. But it wasn't that way when 111 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: you said I want to be transracial. Why do you 112 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: think there's their difference there? Well, you know, so I 113 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: used to live in Korean and I just love that culture, 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, all these people making 115 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: up these strange identities. You know, people identify in different ways. 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: It's just like, why can't I look like a Korean 117 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: pop star? And that was really how it started. She said, 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: why can't I look like them? Because many people in 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: Korea have surgery to look like Hollywood stars, And that 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: was it, you know, when people kind of made it 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: sound crazy and stuff, and you know it was kind 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: of interesting. It's almost like, you know, I was exposing 123 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: the woke people and the trans mafia because they were like, 124 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: you can identify as anything. Suddenly I'm saying I want 125 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to look back a Korean pop start and then they 126 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: went crazy, So you know, there's really really double standards, 127 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: and you know, really it just stemmed from my identity issues. 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: I was basically trying to reinvent myself, trying to change 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: myself completely because I really hated the way I looks 130 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: the way I felt inside. So you know, it was 131 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: obviously the wrong decision. Now I've kind of realized that. 132 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting though. I think it was Piers Morgan who said, well, 133 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: what if I were to come out and say that 134 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm a black female lesbian and people went, that's ridiculous, 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: and he's how is it different than and I mean, 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: this is you truly are coming out as transracial, and 137 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: people are not accepting of that. But I want to 138 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: ask you about your journey was to become a woman? 139 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: You have not ever you said it was. Let me 140 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: see the quote because I think it's it's interesting you 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: said when I when I had all that surgery, I 142 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: felt like a woman and looked like a woman, but 143 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was trans And I think that that 144 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: explains how so many women feel about this from the outside, 145 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: because we're saying, but you're you don't have the true 146 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: experiences of being a woman, and it feels from our 147 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: perspective that people are making fun of us. I mean, 148 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: you've been very critical of Dylan mulvaney, who has come 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: out and become a brand ambassador for all these different companies. 150 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: But I think that Tampas was really the biggest shocker 151 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: because it's not something that women celebrate. Having their menstrual 152 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: cycle is certainly not eat an easy time. Oftentimes people 153 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: have so many struggles with that part of life. They 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: end up with surgeries, they end up with problems getting pregnant, 155 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: And now we have a man saying I'm gonna advertise 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: something that there was a period of time women were 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: sent out of the entire community because they weren't seen 158 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: as clean during that time. It's like we have struggled 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: with menstrual cycles for centuries and here now it's a mockery. 160 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: So what do you say about folks like Dylan mulvaney 161 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: who seemed to be looking for fame? And I think 162 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, women feel like you're stealing 163 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: our identity because you're looking for fame rather than coming 164 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: around us and saying we understand you. It seems like 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: the transgender community doesn't really understand women at all. And 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the most hurtful thing from our perspective. Absolutely. 167 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: You know, I speak to women every day, I speak 168 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: to mothers, and they get so offended by this because 169 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: it is insulting. And you know a lot of these 170 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: people tudor. When you see these adult men dressing as women, 171 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: it's almost a fetish for them. You know, they're dressing 172 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: in lingerie. They want to go in the women's restrooms 173 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: to be seen. So you know, we have that as well, 174 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: and that's very very offensive when they kind of just 175 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, parody women, it's a caricature of a woman, 176 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: or it's you're fetishizing what the woman is without understanding 177 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: their lived in experiences. In terms of Dylan mulveny, I mean, 178 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: he is just incredibly offensive. It's so blatantly obvious that 179 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: he was just desperate for fame. You know, he was 180 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: on the Prices, right, he was on the Ellen Show 181 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: as this over the top melodramatic gay guy. He still 182 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: has the exact same personality now, only he's pretending to 183 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: be a girl. And what's really sad about that is, 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: you know he shared had his days of girlhood stories 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: and now you might have seen on Twitter today so 186 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: many women were saying, you know how many days they've 187 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: been a woman, you know, day ten thousand and being 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: a woman and sharing their experiences, and you know, women 189 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: should not be mocked. And the fact that Dylan is 190 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: profiting off this and all of these woke corporations like Nike, 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: bud Light, they are adding fuel to the fire because 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: they are completely insulting women. So, you know, I think 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: when trans people claim to be a woman, because even 194 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I was trans, I would call myself trans. I wouldn't 195 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: use women's spaces because I was always respectful. I just 196 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: wanted to look a certain way. But you know a 197 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: lot of these people, it's they're offending women and they 198 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: just don't get it. They think they can they're entitled 199 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: to using women's restrooms, women's spas, and it's very offensive. 200 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Is there a part of you because this is the 201 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: way I look at it. I feel like this is 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: a very sad situation for Dylan, and I'm very My 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: heartbreaks for him because I don't see this being sustainable 204 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: And what kind of a life is this? You know, 205 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I think that people find happiness in people. We that 206 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: I mean, biology would tell you that we are we 207 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: want to be around people relationships are important, that is 208 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: meaningful in the human experience, and it seems very lonely. 209 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that maybe people aren't 210 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: understanding is that when you, like you said, you're not 211 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: a woman, you give up being a man, you become trans. 212 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: And that seems to me like a lonely space because 213 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: most people are looking for a spouse, whether they are 214 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: same sex attracted or opposite, it's sex attracted. They want 215 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: to know what that person is and have a life 216 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: with them. Absolutely. I mean a lot of these young 217 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: people that become trands, they really you know, they struggle 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: with mental health issues, and a lot of them struggle 219 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: with the way they look their identity. They have body dysmorphia. 220 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of these cases are people 221 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: become trans because they want love and the tension. They 222 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: want validation. And then they see people like Dynamolphony that 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: is succeeding, you know, they've become fam' getting lucrative brand deals. 224 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: So a lot of young people look at that success 225 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: and they think, I wish I could be loved because 226 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: when you're trans. Tutor, I experienced this as trans, you know, 227 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I had brandsprowing deals at me. All the time. I 228 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: had so many people praisingly positive comments, and you know, 229 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of these kids, they just want a validation, 230 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and you know, they're turning to social media, and you know, 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: when you start to share your transition story, the more 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: extreme it gets, the more likes you get, the more 233 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: views you get, the more praise you get. So it's 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: really toxic. And you know, I don't hold anything against 235 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: these people. You know, I will pray for Dylan, you know, 236 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people do, because I believe 237 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: in the power of people can change, especially with the 238 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: power of prayer. And it's very sad, and I think 239 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: what he's doing is very offensive to women. But I 240 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: pray one day he wakes up from that, realizes the 241 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: harmy is causing, and you know, tries to become a 242 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: better role model for young people. I think that we 243 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: all know he's an actor. You know, this is an act. 244 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Now obviously he's this has been taken to the next 245 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: level and he's having these surgeries. Are there any surgeries 246 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: that you've had that you've looked back and regretted, because 247 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: I just wonder if this happens and then I mean, 248 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: having had breast cancer and going through reconstruction. I know 249 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, there's this is strange, this is different. 250 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever feel that way when you look at 251 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: surgeries you've had and say, it's just not what I wanted. Yeah, 252 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean I do regret. I did do a lot 253 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: of surgeries, so I had all the chest about the moves, 254 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: and my nipples are kind of messed up. My face. 255 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: When I had facial feminization, I basically had all of 256 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: my bones shaved down. I've had my jaw shaved, my cheeks, 257 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: my eyebrow bones, and it has made my face asymmetrical. 258 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I do kind of feel sad when 259 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I look in the mirror. I feel why did I 260 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: do that to myself? Because you know, it really upset 261 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: my family, upset my friends. But at the time, I 262 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: was just on this mission. I thought I have to 263 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: change myself. I have to be happy. So I do 264 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: regret what I did, But at the end of the day, 265 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: I know I can't take that back. So what I'm 266 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: trying to do is I'm learning from what I've done. 267 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to raise awareness and help other people. I 268 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: don't want young people. I don't want any teeny old 269 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: there was a sixteen year old going to adopt it 270 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and trying to change themselves. I want them to find 271 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: happiness from within, and that's what I'm focusing on now, 272 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, positivity and trying to help one parents and 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: want kids not to do these things to themselves. I 274 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: think what you just said is something people are afraid 275 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: to say, is that you can't change it back. So 276 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: often we hear that the puberty blockers are reversible, that 277 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: the surgeries are reversible. And I've said, from my own 278 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: perspective of having gone through plastic surgery, this is not 279 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: you can't change it back. But I don't think that 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: people really understand that you've obviously had a different experience 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: with the type of plastic surgery you've had. When people 282 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: tell you it's reversible, what is your response to that. Well, 283 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, the gender clinics like to tell you that, oh, 284 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: it's easy, it's reversible, there's no long term side effects. 285 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: It's part of the marketing pitch, because you know, if 286 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: they actually told the kids and the parents the long 287 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: term health consequences of taking hormones with the rest of 288 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: their life, they wouldn't have any customers. This is a 289 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: business they're making a lot of money, so you know, 290 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: it's very sad, and that's what I'm trying to do. 291 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: I'm trying to raise awareness. You know. I've wrote a 292 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: book Gender Madness, and I'm covering all these issues about 293 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: how these hospitals convince parents and what they like to do. 294 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: They like to use the tactic to coerce parents. They say, 295 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: your child will commit suicide unless you change their gender. 296 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: We need to do this straight away. And what happens 297 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: when the child de transitions. There is nothing you can 298 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: do once you've done a double the sect. To me, 299 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I know you can do breass reconstruction, but it's very difficult. 300 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: And once they take the hormones, you can't reverse that tudor. 301 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: And these clinics are not telling these kids, they're not 302 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: telling the parents. There's no informed consent. They're basically experimenting 303 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: and mutilating on these kids. And no, there's not enough research. 304 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: It's only a very recent there's not enough research, you know, 305 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: twenty thirty years down the line. What is the effects 306 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: of hormones and pubit blockers. There's some research that suggests 307 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: kids will develop issues with bone growth, bone density, increased 308 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: likelihood of heart attack, some hot palpitations, you know, and 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: so many other things that you know, incontinence. So you know, 310 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: we need to alert parents and kids that this is 311 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the real consequences of changing your gender. Let's take a 312 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast. 313 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: People get really mad at me when I talk about 314 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: this because they're they you know, they feel like I 315 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: have no business talking about this, But I have looked 316 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: at how this has affected kids. And you talk about 317 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: bone growth, and we've had stories come to us of 318 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: young men who were put on or young women who 319 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: were put onto stosterone and then blocked their estrogen, and 320 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: we know that estrogen is very important to a woman's 321 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: bone structure. And one of these young women ended up 322 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: in a wheelchair because of the of the vertebrae in 323 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: her back that were just crushed by this. That there's 324 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: just no strength in the bones left. And I this 325 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: because when I had cancer, my cancer is hormone receptive, 326 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: so that means that my cancer grows on hormones. So 327 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: they put me on a hormone I mean essentially a 328 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: hormone suppressant. And then we talked about a hysterectomy and 329 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: I was gosh. When we would have talked about the 330 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: HYS directory, I would have been about forty years old, 331 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and my doctor at the time said that even though 332 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: there is a risk of cancer again, that the benefits 333 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: did not outweigh the risks because of the amount of 334 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: osteoporosis that could occur if I had a hysterectomy at 335 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: that age. And I think Gosha's forty, you know, And 336 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: to think about these young kids. I mean, we're hearing 337 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: about teenagers that are having hysterectomies, But why is the 338 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: medical community not standing up and saying, boy, this is 339 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: really this can be very catastrophic to these children's systems. 340 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: And that these hormones they do more than just determine 341 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: your gender. They really run your whole system and keep 342 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: everything on, whether your metabolism, whether it's your metabolism, whether 343 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: it's your brain growth. It's so much more than just 344 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: determining whether you are male or female. Yeah, absolutely, I 345 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: mean the changes these hormones make to someone's body. I mean, 346 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: if it's given adminiscent to a teenage girl, you know, 347 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: the muscles grow completely different than bones grow completely different. 348 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: It also changes you know, body parts gender tailor and stuff. 349 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: So it's really really dangerous. But when you have people 350 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: like Rachel Levine, the transgender US Assistant Secretary of Health, 351 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: When you have someone like that pushing this, you know, 352 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: and they have been exposed. There was exposed emails with 353 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: the Daily Caller where Rachel talked about profitability and returning 354 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: investment with gender clinics in terms of transitioning kids, and 355 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: the Biden administration have made it very clear they want 356 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: to normalize this. So when you have the government health 357 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: service pushing this, it's really hard to push back and 358 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: actually try and expose what's going on. And You're right, 359 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: you get a lot of pushback. I get crazy pushback. 360 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: I even have journalists had to be death threats because 361 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to expose what's going on. You know, we 362 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: all have a duty. These are kids. We have to 363 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: speak up for them. We have to alert into the 364 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: long term consequences. And this isn't medicine and it's not exact. 365 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not like if someone breaks a 366 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: bone and you know how to set it again. When 367 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about removing someone's genitals, this is not there's 368 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: no real answer to this, and we've heard of. I mean, 369 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I actually have not heard of a lot of success 370 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: stories with that situation. You talk about incontinence, I've heard 371 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: horror stories and I'm just going to be really graphic 372 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: and honest with you, but we've been told. You know, 373 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: these doctors they create, they take the penis, they inverted, 374 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: they created a vagina. This is not how the human 375 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: body works, so that the female body has systems that 376 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: clean and lubricate in all of those things. We have 377 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: heard stories about feces getting up into this area. There's 378 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: no self cleaning is These people have to deal with 379 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: odors our whole lives, they have to deal with incontinence. 380 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is graphic, but I think that it 381 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: deserves to be told the truth absolutely. You know, I 382 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: speak with de transitioners all the time. I'm trying to 383 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: give them a platform and share their story, and it's 384 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: a horror story. If a girl is transitioning to a boy, 385 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: they actually have to cut a big chunk off their 386 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: arms to make into a penis. And you know a 387 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: lot of them have internal bleeding. They have bleeding every 388 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: time they use the restroom. It's very difficult for them 389 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: to walk. The clinics don't tell them that. And you're right. 390 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: There are so many horror stories out there and it's 391 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: absolutely shocking. Now you see on Twitter sometimes these graphic 392 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: images of women that have become men or vice versa, 393 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: and it's just shocking. It's actually like a science experiment. 394 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: So we really need to stop this now. It is 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: a science experiment. And you talk about this creation of 396 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: the penis, the other way around, you're removing the penis. 397 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: And I also think that this is something that people 398 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: cannot fathom ahead of time because you want to be 399 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: done with this, you want to be the other gender. 400 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: And so when the doctors, I think in cases where 401 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: the doctors are like, yeah, this is going to work. 402 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: There may be some complications, but it's going to work. 403 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: I think it's so easy to say I hear that 404 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: it's going to work and it's going to be good, 405 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: and not really understand what it means to have your 406 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: nerves them cut through, your nerves, have no feeling. I've 407 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: read stories of people who have no feeling between their 408 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: legs at all, and to me, this is horrifying. I 409 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: know what it is to have no feeling, you know, 410 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: I know what it is to have no feeling in 411 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: the chest area of my body, because that's what happens 412 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: when they do a double mussectomy. They cut through all 413 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: of your nerves. It's the same thing. But think, I mean, 414 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: this is the area of your body that has all 415 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: of your sexual receptors, you know, all of those nerves 416 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: that give you pleasure when you are having a relationship 417 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: with another person. And sex, to me is something that 418 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: you should not be robbing people of because it's such 419 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: a defining factor of intimacy with your spouse, of feeling 420 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: that love and connection. And you do you talk about 421 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: people searching for love and connection. How can doctors remove 422 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: the ability to have a sexual intimate relationship with orgasms 423 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: from people knowing that they will never have a Well, 424 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: they don't even tell the patients half of the time. 425 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: And you know when when you're doing this to teenagers, 426 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: they don't even think about those things. They don't know 427 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: anything about that. And also we have to know a 428 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: lot of girls that do transition transition into boys, they 429 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: can't actually have a baby. They're going to really struggle 430 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: to conceive in their later life. So now imagine taking 431 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: a person's right away to have a child. That is 432 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: just beyond horrifying. But again, the clinics to doctors, they 433 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: do not inform these kids. You know, in many you know, 434 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Democrat states across the US, they just get a prescription 435 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: very easily. They need one visit to a therapist, get 436 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: a sign letter, and then they start on a course 437 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: of hormones, and the hallmones change the body completely, even 438 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: without the surgery. These wholements changed the genitaium. They promote 439 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: breast gripe and boys and it's just horrified. But these 440 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: clinics are not informing anyone of the long term consequences. 441 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: We saw recently a person who was working at one 442 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: of these clinics and she is actually married to a 443 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: transgender person, who came out and said, I started to 444 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: see that this may not be truly transgender people that 445 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: are coming. It's young people who are having a social contagion. 446 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: Because she said, we had a whole entire class come 447 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: to the clinic, and the clinic was like, yeah, no, 448 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: this is good. And I think there are genuinely transgender 449 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: people out there. I mean, we've seen people who have 450 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: lived their lives as the opposite gender. But it's a 451 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: small The reality is it's a small number. We can't 452 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: lie about the fact that it's a small number. But 453 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: we also what you've said about TikTok and social media. 454 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: It is convincing people. But what do you think the 455 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: potential is that whole entire classrooms or friend groups are 456 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: getting convinced into this because, like you said, people were 457 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: celebrating the fact that you needed to understand you were 458 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: actually a woman. How many people are getting pushed into 459 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: that and they can't figure out how to back out 460 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: of it. You made a great point there. There's a 461 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: very very small minority of people that actually do feel 462 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: transgender the whole life. So you've got Kate and Jenna 463 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: is a great example. But the vast majority of these 464 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: kids would never have had these ideas about change their 465 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: gender unless they're being taught in schools, unless they're seeing 466 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: it on TikTok, unless they're going to drag story hours. 467 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: We need to look at what society is doing. Society 468 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: is pushing this on kids, and that reference you made, 469 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: I believe it's the Saint Louis, Missouri Clinic. I remember 470 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: there was a whistleblow and they said that entire groups 471 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: of girls. They're seeing an increase in girls from the 472 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: same schools with fame classes were being referred to the 473 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: clinic eleven twelve years old, and they're being put on 474 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: these hormones and stuff. And you know, if we look 475 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: at their graphs, if we look at the statistics, all 476 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: of these statistics have gone up very dramatically within really 477 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: a space of five to ten years. Prior to that, 478 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: you had very very small numbers, you know, across the US, 479 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a few hundred people per year transitioning. 480 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: Now suddenly it's in the tens of thousands, and it's 481 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: going on a very sharp incline. So we have to 482 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: look at what is behind that these gender clinics are 483 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: popping up everywhere when you've got the Biden administration normalizing 484 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: this and pushing it, and you know, you can't escape this. 485 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, talk about being in a pressed minority, 486 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: which is what transactivists like to claim. Literally, you have 487 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: trans flags painted everywhere, they have the Trans Day of Visibility, 488 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: and it's like it is a minority of people, and 489 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, I get that there are some people 490 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: like Kate and Jender that are, you know, feel trans 491 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: their whole life, but we shouldn't be catering for a 492 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: small minority, and we shouldn't be pushing other people to 493 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: join this well, And that seems like that's why I 494 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: think everybody's saying, whoa, what is bud Light doing? Why 495 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: is Kate Spade doing this? Why are we being why 496 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: is this being pushed on us? And why is it 497 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: in every movie and being pushed in every television show 498 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: when this is this is not necessarily a large community. 499 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: And also it's not really a satisfying life for someone 500 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: who is not truly trans and so pushing people into 501 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: a lifestyle that is not truly theirs is not going 502 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: to end well for society. But also I would say 503 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: I think that there's so many people who say, well, gosh, 504 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: if you say that, you're hateful you And so I 505 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: think that these companies are being pushed into this because 506 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: the last thing they want to be labeled as is 507 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: hateful or not inclusive. And you know, if you're not inclusive, 508 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: then you're like the worst person on the planet, and 509 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: so they can demonize you for talking about it. But 510 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: I think it has led a lot of parents to 511 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: be led by some of these radical physicians rather than 512 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: doing their own research. And that's why I think it's 513 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: important to have these discussions when you talk about the 514 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: realities of these hormone treatments. We're talking about kids as 515 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: young as eleven years old, who are girls who are 516 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: suddenly growing facial hair, their body their voices are changing, 517 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Their bodies are changing vice versa. Boys who are growing breasts, 518 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: they're not getting their voices are not deepening. But these 519 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: are permanent changes that cause sterility, and that is something 520 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: that no one is out there saying. And I've had 521 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: parents say to me, well, I'd rather they be sterile 522 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: and happy, but are you happy if you never You're 523 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: not At this point, it's getting younger and younger, so 524 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: you were in the situation of doing this as an adult. 525 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: But think about puberty blockers. So young these kids, the 526 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: boys are not even growing a penis that is large 527 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: enough to invert, and so they're taking skin from other 528 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: parts of their body and therefore they're never getting to 529 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: the point where they can have any type of romantic relationship. 530 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: It's the same with the girls. Why are we lying 531 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: about the fact that a may you're part of a 532 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: person's life is removed by these hormone treatments. They can 533 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: never have children, they can never have sex. They will 534 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: likely struggle to find a partner. Why is that something 535 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to say, right, Well, we don't acknowledge 536 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: gender at all because these gender clinics just want to 537 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: get so many customers through their doors. Is it money, 538 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money being made. In twenty twenty two, 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: it was estimated two point two billion dollars was made 540 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: via these gender clinics as a whole. But what we 541 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: need to look at a lot of these kids are 542 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: being misdiagnosed. So again with the case with the whistleblower 543 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, Missouri, most of these kids are struggling 544 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: with their mental health. Their teenagers, they're going through puberty. 545 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: It's a really difficult time. Some of them may be autistic, 546 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: some of them may have bipolar, some of them have depression. 547 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: And what's happening is clinics are misdiagnosing those things and 548 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: just saying, okay, well let's change your gender. That's why 549 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: you feel like this. And that's completely harmful because you 550 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: know these kids are going to feel ten times worse 551 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: down the line. They've already got these pre existing conditions. 552 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: So when you add hormones which completely change the completely 553 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: changed the chemical imbalance in the brain. It's only going 554 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: to make the mental health struggles worse. And like you said, 555 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: they can't have fulfilling relationships, like they're very limited to 556 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: what they can do in adult life, So you know, 557 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it's only going to make what conditions they have already 558 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: ten times worse. I think it's interesting because when I 559 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: went through my reconstruction surgery, reconstructive surgery, the surgeon went 560 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: through in great detail what we could do to make 561 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: sure that I still had range of motion, what we 562 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: could do to make sure I could still pick up 563 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: the girls, still have an active life, you know my age. 564 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: What that meant for how we would do the surgery. 565 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: And I think about that that was something that we 566 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: felt had to happen to protect me, to keep me alive. Right, 567 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: And here are these I assume these conversations are similar. 568 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: This is what we'll be limited by, this is what 569 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: we want to do to make sure you're not limited 570 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: by this. But how can doctors who sign an oath 571 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: to do no harm just start cutting into healthy bodies? 572 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't make sense when you're seeing this. 573 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: It's like a you know doctor Mengel from World War Two. 574 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: It's like a scientic. Yeah, these kids, and there's no 575 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: duty of care. We saw again with the Missouri case 576 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: some of the doctors when they had patients that were 577 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: complaining about the affection of the hormones or the surgeries, 578 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: the doctors basically said, it's not our problem anymore. They've 579 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: already done the surgeries. That's it. So the problem is, 580 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, these clinics, they're not doing their duty of care. 581 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: They have no morals or ethic ethical standards, which is 582 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: the basic thing you should be doing as a doctoral nurse. 583 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: That's your number one priority to protect the patient's health. 584 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's what people aren't hearing what you 585 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: just said, is the doctors kind of disappear on them 586 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: after if if something goes wrong, it's like, yeah, I 587 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: told you there could be a problem, suck it up. Yeah. 588 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's the common denominator we've seen time and 589 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: time again these gender clinics. They do not support de transitions. 590 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: We had this gender clinic in the United Kingdom, it's 591 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: called Tavistock, and it's being shut down because there were 592 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: so many horror worries and what happened is the clinic 593 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: wants the kids were out the door. They didn't do 594 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: any follow up studies. They didn't do any checkups like 595 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: one year down the line, two years down the line, 596 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: to see the effects of these all mental pubsy blockers. 597 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: And that's why the two do you see, the data 598 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: is skewed when they say there's such a low detransition 599 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: rates because they don't involve to check on their patients. 600 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: So you know when they say, oh see, that's how 601 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: medicine works. Because for example, going through cancer, the breast surgeon, 602 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't ever I never see the breast surgeon again. 603 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I see an oncologist, I see the plastic surgeon. I 604 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: never see the breast surgeon again because his job is 605 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: simply to get the cancer out. This is these plastic surgeons. 606 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Their job is not to come back to you and 607 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: say how are you doing and did you need anything else? 608 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Can I take care of you? They were trained in 609 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: medical school to do plastic surgery and then their patient 610 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: is gone. And so that's the part of this that 611 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Really, there is no follow up care, 612 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: and what are these clinics doing. Are they providing the 613 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: psychologists because psychiatrists are now just prescribers. Surgeons are just surgeons. 614 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: I think people don't understand that medicine is very very 615 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: segmented what your area of expertise is. You don't then 616 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: help the person afterward. You don't go back to the 617 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: person and say, well, how is that breast surgery? Doing 618 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: that I did? Because he's done with me, you know. 619 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: And so I think that's another sort of misconception of 620 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: having these radical surgeries is that that person that surgeon 621 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: cares about you wants to be in your life through 622 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: ust You're like, no, that's they did, that's their job, 623 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: and then they move on. Yeah. Absolutely. But with a 624 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of these gender clinics, you know they refer kids 625 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to therapists in order to get the gender dys for 626 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: a diagnosis, and you know, these therapists are basically on 627 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: the payroll of these clinics, so they're gonna you know, 628 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: sign the kid off for yeah, find for hormones, find 629 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: for surgery, and then that's that what happens when they 630 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: detransition or afterwards, they don't offer the therapists, They don't 631 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: off a psychologists, which when you're doing this to a job, 632 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: when you're changing their entire body. They're going through so 633 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: many changes, which is very difficult to cope with, so 634 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: it's very important for them to have follow up studies. 635 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Is there any adverse side effects? 636 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Because many of these kids are having side effects and 637 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: the clinics are just simply abandoning them. You know, they 638 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: should have a support system, but they shouldn't be doing 639 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: this in the first place. But now, a good clinic 640 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: would have psychologists, therapists on hands that I'm non biased, 641 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: that their only interest was protecting the patients. But sadly 642 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll 643 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. It's really hard 644 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: when you are a young person and you feel that 645 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: peer pressure to then back out of it. I think, 646 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we know this from centuries of people being 647 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: influenced by peer pressure. You've gone through this. You said 648 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: that you had a lot of the people saying that 649 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: you're just a woman, you need to go for this 650 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: and do this. We've heard a lot of de transitioners 651 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: come out and say once I said, it started this train, 652 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: and I could not get off the train, and no 653 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: matter what I said, people were like no, no, go 654 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: for this, because people around these folks have been so 655 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: trained to say support it, support it, support it, that 656 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: it becomes more than just support it's you have to 657 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: do this now. What do you What is your advice 658 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: to those young people who say, I feel like I'm 659 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: on a train, it's going too fast. I want to 660 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: jump off, but I don't want to disappoint everybody around me. 661 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: What's your advice? Right? I mean, there is so much 662 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: peer pressure because once you start doing more extreme things 663 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: to yourself, you can't really stop. And that was my situation. 664 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: I was just doing more and more and more. I 665 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: was on this train that was basically about to crash, 666 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: and I had to take a step back. I was like, 667 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. But yeah, a lot of 668 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: these kids are feeding peer pressures because when you have 669 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, Hollywood teachers, your school friends saying no, no, 670 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: this is fine, this is normal that you feel like this, 671 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: you are meant to be the opposite gender. It kind 672 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: of reinforces their belief and they're getting praised, They're getting 673 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: all this positivity that they've never experienced before. So it's 674 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: really difficult, and you know the problem of people de 675 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: transitioning is they're very scared to speak about it because firstly, 676 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: they don't have anyone to talk to. There's no one 677 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: out there that will speak to them and say, oh, yeah, 678 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: this is the right thing, all the trans community, and 679 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: they will literally abandon you. They will attack you, they 680 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: will harass you. If you dare to question the narrative 681 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: that oh maybe this wasn't the right decision for this person, 682 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: you get attacks. So now what is the duty of 683 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, all people like me you, We need to 684 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: speak up and make a platform for these de transitions 685 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: and give them an opportunity to share their story, removing 686 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: the stigma. We need to praise them for their bravery 687 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: and sharing their vulnerability, and you know, tell them it's 688 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: okay to do this. And there are various states. Florida 689 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: and several other states are passing laws the band genera 690 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: having care and several states are now allowing kids to 691 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: sue these clinics. So, you know, I think that's the 692 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: step forward. The more people that come forward, the more 693 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: we can stop this. I think it is amazing that 694 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: you've been so brave, that you've been willing to go 695 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: out there and have this discussion and really open up 696 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: what happened to you, how you made these decisions, and 697 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: be kind of a sounding board for these kids and 698 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 1: even for kids that are saying, gosh, it's going too 699 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: fast being there, that they can look you up, that 700 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: they can find out what you're doing. Just tell our 701 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: audience really quickly where they can find you what you're doing. Next. 702 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: About the book, all of that stuff, right, So I'm 703 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: very active on Twitter. I expose a lot of the 704 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: gender ideology, so that's at Holli London TV. Also on 705 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: Truth Social at Olli London and so I've written the book. 706 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: So the book is half of it's about my experience 707 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 1: basically what led me to that place, the bullying that's 708 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: influence on social media. The second half of the book 709 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: is really examining what is going on in the world 710 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: right now, Where has all of a sudden this pushed 711 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: to transition kids come from. Because it's a very recent phenomenon. 712 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I examined TikTok, I examine the history 713 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: of transgenderism, the first transgenderal operations where in the nineteen 714 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: twenties in Germany. I look at all that and look 715 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 1: at how did it get to where we are today, 716 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: where we're doing this to kids. I also look at 717 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: the attack on parental rights. I spend most of my 718 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: time in America, so you know, I've examined all the 719 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: different state laws and how parents can get involved because 720 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: many of these schools, these wont schools, are teaching kids 721 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: about changing the gender and the parents have no idea. 722 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: So I want to help the parents see the warning 723 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: signs and be more involved in the things that their 724 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: schools are pushing on their kids. So it's called Gender Madness, 725 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: and it's on pre order on Amazon, Bonds and Nobles 726 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: and other bookstores right now. Thank you so much. I 727 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: so enjoyed talking to you Ali London. You are doing 728 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: incredible things. We're going to keep following you. I'd love 729 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: to have you back on sometime definitely. I really appreciate it. 730 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: Thank you for the opportunity. Yes, thank you, and thank 731 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 732 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Tutor Dixon podcast dot com 733 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: for this episode and others. You can subscribe right there 734 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: on the website and make sure you join us the 735 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Thank you