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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy's team

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Speaker 1: tasker in Orchard Park. Snow is let up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We got a decent day here today, happy, happy with

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Speaker 1: all of fame running back Thurmantown from the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: regular weekly. How cold is it going to be when

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Speaker 1: Miami comes here? Way cold? December thirtieth can be cold

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Speaker 1: and dark like my heart. Welcome to the show, Thurm. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it good? Happy it's going okay, open it up

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Speaker 1: for you. Yes, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's nice. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we could fit our show around you schedule. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna come in and talk to uh Craig

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Speaker 1: have long thought, and we've talked about this tumor, how

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Speaker 1: They did it a couple of years ago in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: We're built. Buffalo went down to Nashville, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: had your antena, Oh I have all the time, all

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Speaker 1: the time. Every week we played him, Yeah, every time

425
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Speaker 1: we played him twice a year for something. Yeah. Pro

426
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Speaker 1: athletes are also notorious for for twist and stuff into motivation.

427
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Speaker 1: You know, whether it's intentional or not, it's it's just

428
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Speaker 1: something you do. And yeah, that would have been easy. Man.

429
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Speaker 1: See those guys get out of the limo. Yeahs from

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Speaker 1: the Fat Pig golphinsive line and get out of that

431
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Speaker 1: in them so I could see it. You got the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Is Buffalo's current biggest right I think so? I think

433
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Speaker 1: so if you continue to play them, you're in and

434
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Speaker 1: you're out. And I mean with their division and how

435
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Speaker 1: is structured. I mean they could meet in the playoffs

436
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Really, Yeah, what about your current

437
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: top right? Yeah, that's good. I would say it has

438
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Speaker 1: to be somebody in the division that the Patriots um

439
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: for me or I kind of separate them from from everything.

440
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be either the Jets

441
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: or the Dolphins. I think it's the Dolphins. I still

442
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: think it's the Dolphins because I still think there's that

443
00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo cold snow belt versus the Miami beach. Uh. You know,

444
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: they're glitzy kind of lifestyle and our family more family,

445
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: down to earth out lifestyle up here. Uh. It's everything

446
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: that you know makes you hate celebrity people that goes

447
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: on down there and everything trust about being family members

448
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: up here. You know, it's all of us. You know,

449
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with. This is the guys who

450
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: I was hanging out after the game, Zach Thomas, uh

451
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Speaker 1: and Larry Izzo. Those were the two guys that were

452
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Speaker 1: hanging with right, and we're like Fort Lauderdale. All other

453
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Speaker 1: guys were down in South Beach somewhere, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was like that every single

455
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Speaker 1: week we couldn't get no more than five or six

456
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Speaker 1: guys to hang out. It's so big that everybody was

457
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: doing their own thing. Everybody was going to the way

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Speaker 1: And that's how I became really good friends with Zach

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Speaker 1: Thomas and Larry Izzo. Right, Okay, Yeah, like a term.

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Speaker 1: We gotta ask you about a fundraiser that's coming up.

461
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,959
Speaker 1: We touched on it the other day last week with us. Sunday,

462
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Speaker 1: December fourteenth, the Therm and Thomas Family Foundation a scholarship

463
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Speaker 1: Night at Sunni Erie County Campus, downtown Buffalo, one twenty

464
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Speaker 1: one Ellicott Street. Ticket start at one of the dollars.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about this and where this money goes. Uh,

466
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Speaker 1: it goes to disadvantage students going into their second semester.

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Speaker 1: We're going to clear all their costs their tuitions, yeah, exactly,

468
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Speaker 1: which which you know runs about anywhere five to six

469
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Speaker 1: grand yea. And so we're covering the whole cost for

470
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Speaker 1: those students and we're doing uh three students a year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They have to be within the Erie County, UM, Erie

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Speaker 1: County and UH yeah, it's a partnership that we've had

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Speaker 1: with uh just started with Soon a Erie uh this

474
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Speaker 1: past year because I started a scholarship fund with them

475
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Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety four and all the way up

476
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Speaker 1: to now, it was like to cover some books for

477
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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, you know. But now with all the

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Speaker 1: sponsors that we've had that we have now throwing this

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00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: function UM December fourteenth Friday down and soon an Erie

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Speaker 1: campus downtown. UM. The sponsors that really helped us. And

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Speaker 1: so now we're doing it more. We can do more. Now,

482
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: we can do more. Now, what a great idea like

483
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: if you're coming out of junior college ECC in this case,

484
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Speaker 1: either you're going on to another college or maybe you're

485
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: getting out in the working room, but they basically wipe

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Speaker 1: the sleek clean financially. It's a great way, right just

487
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Speaker 1: to have the fact that you know what, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to well, even if I was worth here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much money I have to save

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Speaker 1: up to cover this cost. You're just going like Hey,

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Speaker 1: I could just study now. Yeah, and that's why we're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this is what we need to do,

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Speaker 1: is Zach Allison. Community College is a great way to

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Speaker 1: go for a lot of it. I went to a

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Speaker 1: community Yeah, I went to a Dodge City community college.

496
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Speaker 1: It was a great move for me. And to this

497
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: very day, those are us and all those guys. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A couple of my buddies would drive the state during

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Speaker 1: the summer. They have Front Street where Dodge you know,

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Speaker 1: gun smoking all that. It was a it's a tourist

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Speaker 1: thing where they had the stage and they do a

502
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Speaker 1: thing where they robbed the stage coach, you know stuff.

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Speaker 1: Couple of my buddies got shot twice a day as

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Speaker 1: a stage city for summer job. It's true. Well, hey,

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00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: I gotta read this right here, go ahead, please uh

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Speaker 1: go to Instagram Thermo Thomas thirty four, thirty four, Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Thermo Thomas four. Information to purchase tickets, okay, cocktails, hottails, food, dancing, celebrities, singings, celebrities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: murs can be there, are you? I don't know you're

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00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: gonna be there. You're gonna seeing He's im saying you're

510
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Speaker 1: the speeches so there's speeches. There's a couple of speeches,

511
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: but you know, the night it belongs to, you know,

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Speaker 1: the sponsors and the three kids or individuals um that

513
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: are getting the scholarships. That good stuff. I'm opening that day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll go. I just work to account. You're you're invited.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't go because you declined, and take

516
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Speaker 1: just one hundred dollars, I know, I know you're I

517
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Speaker 1: know you're not Howard Timing. Leave that there, just leave there.

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Speaker 1: I got before you go, Before you go, I got

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Speaker 1: one question out yesterday. We had this great question that

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00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: Murf came up with. So the Saves are on a

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00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: ten game winning streak, Bill's got a two game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: Youb's going in the MAC Championship tomorrow night. So which

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00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: of those three teams is gonna lose first? First? Because

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Speaker 1: the Saves got Tomorrow tonight and tomorrow I got two games.

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Speaker 1: Ubi's got a game in the MAC Championship on Tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills play the Fins on Monday, and then

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00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: the Saves play on Monday. On Sunday and the Fins

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Speaker 1: play on Monday. It's a negative question. I know you

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Speaker 1: don't want to say. Yeah. I mean it's hard because

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Speaker 1: I had to pick one, it would be you be Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean you don't want the saves of

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00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: the Bills to right exactly, I don't want And plus

533
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: you got real day baseball team play baseball. So now

534
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: that's a whole lot of stuff that can go on today.

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Speaker 1: So that's your own personal for you. Bulls are lower

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Speaker 1: on your priority lists. You know what, you guys coming

537
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: here setting me up a lot of I just take

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Speaker 1: the beat like there's no to morow easy target though,

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00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: thanks Derman. I still want to go to U B

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00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: basketball games though, Yeah, yeah, we'll go to We're gonna go,

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00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Murph and I are going to Kenisius some point. Derman,

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Speaker 1: thanks all right, Buddy Man. Derman, Thomas Hall of Fame

543
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: running back joins us every week. By him again next week,

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Speaker 1: come on back. We're gonna check in on practice. The

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00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: Bills are underway inside the ad Pro Sports Training Center.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up next to practice update with Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: One goes Live just getting started from One Bill's Driving.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. John Murphy s Tasker One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live on this Thursday afternoon Bills getting set for

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00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: the road trip to Miami. Got a lot of ground

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Speaker 1: to cover today. John Shallen's gonna join us a couple

552
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: of hours from now after practice. Armando Salguero of the

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Speaker 1: Miami Herald's gonna join us next hour. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: want to get you involved too a little bit talking

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Speaker 1: about who's the biggest Bill's rival? Right now? Who do

556
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: you think? That's our Twitter poll? We just got started

557
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: with that as Thurman about up. We'd like to get

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Speaker 1: your calls on that, and maybe you can tweet in

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00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: a response. It's up on our Twitter poll right now.

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Speaker 1: Who is the current Buffalo Bill's top rival? Is it

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Speaker 1: that we just threw out a few names there? Is

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Speaker 1: it the Jacksonville Jaguars? On Twitter? Some people have responded

563
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Speaker 1: that yes, it's the Jaguars. Is that the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: this week's opponents? Some people say yes the Dolphins? Fifteen percent?

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Speaker 1: Is that the New England Patriots? Fifty one percent of

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Speaker 1: you think the Patriots are Buffalo's biggest rival? Seven percent

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Speaker 1: of something else in mind. Let's hear your phone nine's

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Speaker 1: open eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting that the take on this because obviously there's a

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Speaker 1: kind of goes probably with the age group as much

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Speaker 1: as anything in this percent, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: because anybody who's been born after nineteen what eighty, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of probably the Patriots right now, right, Yeah, even

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Speaker 1: though the Bills, you know, can't beat him right twenty street.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the one they hate the most. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Bills getting set the head to Miami and

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Speaker 1: on the practice field as we speak. Chris Brown, Bills

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Speaker 1: inside of Buffalo Bills dot Com is going to join

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Speaker 1: this right now from inside the at Pro Sports Training

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Speaker 1: Center on the practice field as the Buffalo Bills are

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Speaker 1: on the practice field today getting set to play the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Chris. Good to have you with us. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing today? Doing okay? Back inside, you know

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Speaker 1: with the weather snowy outside, or at least snow on

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Speaker 1: the ground outside, So back here and Tarn Johnson still

587
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Speaker 1: in that red non contact jersey, as we discussed yesterday,

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00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: probably will be that way in the practice setting the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year. Charles Clay, though in full pads,

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Speaker 1: excellent limited yesterday, seems to be on the road to

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Speaker 1: returning to the lineup. Probably limited again today, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's in full pads and going through contact

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Speaker 1: and whatnot certainly a good side. Hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you two weeks ago, two games ago, anyway, Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott made a pretty big move on the offensive line

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Speaker 1: putting Wyatt Teller in there. I know the Bills are

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Speaker 1: interested in getting to look in some of their young

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen. Is there a chance that maybe they worked

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Speaker 1: us some new guys in through the offensive line this

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Speaker 1: week against Miami? Well, I mean John Miller's injury with

601
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: the oblique strain is an issue with the starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: He's not out here again today, at least as far

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Speaker 1: as I can see, not ready for practice anyway, So

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Speaker 1: I'll be two straight days he's missing practice, So that

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Speaker 1: doesn't spell well for him being in the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And we saw Ryan Groy was the guy who stepped

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Speaker 1: in during the game when he left with the injury

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Speaker 1: last week against Jacksonville. But it looks like it might

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Speaker 1: be Jeremiah Searles this week manning that right guard spot

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Speaker 1: for them. We'll have to see how the rest of

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Speaker 1: the week plays out, but he's gotten some reps in there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he came to the Bills most of

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Speaker 1: his experience as an offensive tackle. He is six foot six,

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Speaker 1: so he might look a little tall to play guard,

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Speaker 1: but guards are getting taller and taller these days. It

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Speaker 1: seems anybody without great superior feet to play left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Seems like more and more offensive coaches aren't shy about

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Speaker 1: moving them inside to guards. So I think he's got

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Speaker 1: a shot to line up there this week for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and that would be a little bit, I mean, be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise or not. I know,

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Speaker 1: the injury is there, but Searles is, like you say,

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Speaker 1: he's a little tics kind of a is he a

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Speaker 1: tackle moving down? I mean, tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about him. Yeah. I mean he's spent most of his

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Speaker 1: time in the league as a as a reserve tackle.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's spent most of his time with Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: got some starts up there due to injury over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. But you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that has bounced around a little bit and he was

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Speaker 1: available the Bills grabbed him, and you know he's lined

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Speaker 1: up at tackle here. He has also lined up at

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Speaker 1: guard so it might be just the difference of opinion

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Speaker 1: where this coaching staff sees him as a more viable

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Speaker 1: guard than tackle because his feet are an elite. Most

636
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: of the time he's spent at tackle has been on

637
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: the right side, So you know, it looks like he's

638
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: going to get a shot at right guard here, So

639
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see if in fact he

640
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: gets the nod. We'll talk to coach after practice today

641
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: to see where that's headed at the right guard's by

642
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: with John Miller not out here again today, and whether

643
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Searles will be the guy that they tabbed to replace him.

644
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Ceiles claimed by the are picked up by the Bills.

645
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Signed by the Bills back in late September. And he's

646
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: not a rookie by any means. Chris in his fifth

647
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: year in the league, and as you mentioned, he's I

648
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: think it's ten starts with the Minnesota Bikes two years ago.

649
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: This guy's played a little bit, so it's not as

650
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: if they're throwing a raw rookie in there, as they

651
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: were they did with Wyatt Teller two weeks ago. Huh right,

652
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: And his play in those ten starts with Minnesota was

653
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: a little uneven. Talking to some people up there that

654
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: cover the team, you know, they said he wasn't always

655
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: super out there, especially when left in one on one situation.

656
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: So you kind of wonder if the Bills think, well,

657
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: let's see what he can do with the guard position.

658
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a better player in that role than he

659
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: is out on the edge. So that could be the

660
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: thinking here in terms of them giving him giving him

661
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity in that role. All right, moving on to

662
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Speaker 1: some other stuff. Is there any surprises out there? I

663
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: know you said Charles Clay is back on the field

664
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: given some work in his hamstring. I know Charles Clay

665
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: will probably be probably be pretty motivated. He could go

666
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: back and play his old team. He came from the Dolphins. Also,

667
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Speaker 1: Derek Anderson still in the concussion protocol. Any reason to

668
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Speaker 1: think that he's going to make any progress towards Sunday

669
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Speaker 1: hard to say. I mean, I don't have to tell you, Steve.

670
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Speaker 1: Every concussion that every person has is different. This one

671
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: seems to be really troubling him in terms of making

672
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Speaker 1: that next step in the concussion protocol. He's practiced on

673
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Speaker 1: a limited basis. He did that last week. He's doing

674
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Speaker 1: that this week, we'll see if he ever gets up

675
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Speaker 1: to being a full participant. That's the final hurdle he

676
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: has to clear to get full medical clearance and be

677
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: clear to play in a game. Should it come to

678
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: that and he has to step onto the field, that

679
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: will also present another interesting question. Where does the depth

680
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: chart fall behind Josh Allen. You know, Matt Barkley's performance

681
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: against the Jets was certainly an impressive start with what

682
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Speaker 1: he was able to do in that game. Did that

683
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Speaker 1: alter you know, what the pecking order is behind Josh

684
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Speaker 1: Allen even when Derek Anderson is medically cleared and healthy.

685
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's another question for coach as to whether,

686
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Barkley moves up to two and Anderson's

687
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: the three. We'll have to ask coach on that. As

688
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: far as Clay Goes, I talked to him after practice

689
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Speaker 1: yesterday and he said it's feeling good. As we know,

690
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries are tricky. You know, we can feel good

691
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: when you're moving and building up to top speed. The

692
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: key with a hamstring and coming back from it, the

693
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: proper way is can you burst and make that rapid

694
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Speaker 1: jump of acceleration and does the hamstring hold up. Then

695
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: that's the true test, and you really don't want to

696
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: test that too early because you are victim to potential

697
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: injury again to that same problem. So they've taken their

698
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: time with it. He's been out a month counting the

699
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: bye week, so you know, I would think it's close

700
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: to time for him to get back on the the field.

701
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: He said, Look, all signs are encouraging for me this week.

702
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: I just want to wait and see until we get

703
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Speaker 1: to the end of the week. I don't think he

704
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: wants to count his chickens just yet, but he is

705
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: getting reps with the ones out here this week, so

706
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a good sign. Chris Brown, Bills inside

707
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: of Buffalo Bills dot Com, joining us from the practice field.

708
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: The other side of the wall over there is the

709
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Bills are on the practice field getting set for the Dolphins.

710
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Speaker 1: And on the topic of quarterbacks, Chris Josh Allen. As

711
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: we watch him and you're watching him out there, it's

712
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: clear to see he still has that black sleeve on

713
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: his right elbow and going down his forearm a little bit,

714
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: and he talked about that a little bit yesterday. I

715
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: think he sounded almost comfortable with that black sleeve on

716
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Speaker 1: his right arm. What do you think I think, based

717
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: on what he was telling us yesterday, it's purely for

718
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: peace of mind. I mean we asked him, like, do

719
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: you really need that on your arm, you know, to

720
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: make all the throws that you're making. He said, look,

721
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: I could probably take it off and my arm's fine.

722
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the athletic trainers and the medical staff

723
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: have told him the same thing. You don't need to

724
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Speaker 1: wear the sleeve, but if it gives you peace of mind,

725
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: then leave it on. I mean, it certainly isn't impacting

726
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: is throwing as we saw last week, and I think,

727
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, knowing how that injury occurred with basically his

728
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: elbow getting sandwiched between two helmets, maybe that little extra

729
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: sleeve provides an inch of cushioning should he take a

730
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Speaker 1: knock on it again, And maybe he believes that reduces

731
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Speaker 1: the risk of re injuring the elbow. If that's gonna

732
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Speaker 1: make him feel more comfortable out on the field, put

733
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Speaker 1: the sleeve on. Yeah, there's no reason to get cray.

734
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Speaker 1: If it's just if he can throw it, leave it on.

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Speaker 1: He did have a he wore something a little bit

736
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Speaker 1: different on game day. I don't know whether it was

737
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: just different color or whether it was the same just

738
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: a different sleeve over the top of the brace, but

739
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: certainly it didn't inhibit his ability to throw the ball deep.

740
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: He did it on a couple of occasions and was

741
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: pretty accurate doing it. Brownie talked a little bit. I mean,

742
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Speaker 1: what do you think about this game plan for the Bills?

743
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: How is it going to be different than it was

744
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. The Miami defense is not as formidable

745
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: on paper as as the Jaguars defense was a week ago.

746
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Where does this take our offense? And what's the next

747
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: step in the game plan? Yeah, it's gonna be interesting

748
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: because I see I think if there are a couple

749
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: of things that the Dolphins do have that's similar to

750
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the Jags, as they have Kiko Alonzo and ray Kwon McMillan,

751
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: who are two linebackers that can cover a lot of ground.

752
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: So I think Jacksonville, at least in that area of

753
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense, may serve as good prep for the

754
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: players on the offensive side of the ball for the Bills.

755
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is this, the Dolphins are having

756
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: all kinds of trouble up front stopping the run game.

757
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, opponents are averaging almost one hundred and forty

758
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: yards on the ground. If ever there was a week

759
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: to have Lashawn McCoy go off, it would be this week.

760
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: And why not have a run game actually support the

761
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: pass game instead of the other way around. It's been

762
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: a problem all season long. And I know you may

763
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: be having a change at the right guard spot if

764
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: John Miller camp play, but I think you try to

765
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: ride you run game early in this one. Control the clock,

766
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: control the pace and tempo of this game, and hopefully

767
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: you're opening one or two possessions. You can really establish

768
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: the run game, get down into scoring territory and put

769
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: some points on the board. I really think that Miami,

770
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: they're psyche, is very fragile right now. They've lost four

771
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: of their last five. They're a very streaky team. If

772
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: you watch last week's game against the Colts, you know

773
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: they're down early in that game. They come back, score

774
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: seventeen straight points to take the lead, and then give

775
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: up the final thirteen points of the ball game and

776
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: lose by a field goal at the end. I don't

777
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: know about the mental toughness of this team. It's hard

778
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: to gauge them. Talking to some reporters down there in Miami.

779
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: It's a very mercurial team, just kind of up and

780
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: down all season long, sometimes within the scope of a game,

781
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: from quarter to quarters, sometimes even series to series. So

782
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: you really don't know what you're walking into down there

783
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: in Miami. I mean, maybe they could be up because

784
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: it's a division game, or maybe after losing four of

785
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: their last five and that window in terms of margin

786
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: forever for them to keep playoff hopes alive is shrinking

787
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: so much that they just say, oh the hell with it. Hey,

788
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: last question I have for you, Chris, and our next

789
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: guest coming up after the top of the hour, Armando

790
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Speaker 1: Salguero has written this. Jordan Phillips, former Dolphin and released

791
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins, signed immediately by the Bills, and he's

792
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: been a contributor, not you know, a great contributor, but

793
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: a contributor in the Buffalo defense, plays with a lot

794
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: of passion. What do you think he's thinking about going

795
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: back to play the team that let him go, that

796
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: gave up on him a couple of just a couple

797
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Yeah, my intern Kyle Sialagi talked to

798
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: him just the other day about that, And let's just

799
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: say he's fired up to go face his former team.

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he was happy with the way that

801
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: it ended. He's a guy that talks a lot on

802
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: the field. He's an emotional player. So I think he's

803
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: gonna be loaded for bear on Sunday. So if coach

804
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: Frasier wants to give him an extra ten or fifteen

805
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: snaps on Sunday, I don't think he's gonna blink because

806
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: he knows he's gonna be getting, you know, high RPM

807
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: play from Jordan Phillips on Sunday, because I think he

808
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: wants to prove something to that coaching staff. He felt

809
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: that he was not getting enough playing time down there.

810
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: He felt he deserved more and didn't get it, and

811
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: things ended kind of sour down there for him, and

812
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: I think he wants he feels he has a point

813
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: to prove that hopefully will benefit the Bills on Sunday.

814
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: That'll be fun. Yeah, Hey, Chris, thanks for this. You

815
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: got guys, Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo bills dot

816
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: Com joining us from the practice field where the Bills

817
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: are getting said, Remember we had Jordan Phillips on the show.

818
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I believe after his first game he did not want

819
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: to talk about his time in Miami. Member He's like,

820
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: that's in the past. I mean, he's got a problem

821
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: with this. Listen. Yeah, And I think you're right. I

822
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be really motivated to play well against

823
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. In fact, I would not be surprised at

824
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: all if he starts the game, Okay, you know, I mean,

825
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I think I think Sean mcdermam would have his finger

826
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: on the poll elson he say, listen, you're in fact,

827
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: I'll bet he's an honor a captain for the game,

828
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I think I

829
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: think I kind of put the guy out there and say, Okay,

830
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to let's go, let's see it, and we're

831
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna support you. You know, we're there with you. Let's go.

832
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: I think you give that guy a chance to to

833
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: u to shine. And I think this coaching staff having

834
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: you know this the guy that you know they gave

835
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams a touchdown here down here last year. You know,

836
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: they there, they got their finger on the pulse of

837
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: guys who are really invested in a game or have

838
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: something going on in it. And I think the fact

839
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: that Jordan Phillips is one of those guys this week,

840
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: you can bet they're gonna give him some extra reps

841
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: at least, if not, if not, give him a prominent role. Yeah, Hey,

842
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: what do you think? What's the bills biggest rival? Is

843
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: it the Dolphins, the Patriots, is it the Jaguars? Somebody else?

844
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Give us a call. We'll talk about it when we

845
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Speaker 1: come back after this break. One Bill's Hive from One

846
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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

847
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Speaker 1: to the show. Those are you on MSG watching? That's

848
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen throwing the football around at practice with his

849
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: little black sleeve on. Actually it's kind of a big

850
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: black sleeve. He likes it. You get that thing yesterday

851
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: during the looks cool too, Yeah, it does look cool.

852
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: You can sell advertising space, you know. I like his approach. Hey,

853
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about rivals. The Bill's Dolphins. Some people think

854
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: that's Buffalo's biggest rival. What do you think? Give us

855
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: a call or participate on Twitter eight three fifty toll

856
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

857
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: or you can do it on Twitter, sent us in

858
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: a tweet or voting on a Twitter poll. Elane from

859
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Arizona on the line with us to talk about this, Elane,

860
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: where in Arizona? Are you Masa Mesa right outside Da Phoenix? Right? Yeah,

861
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: I love that part of the country. What do you think, Elaine? Yes,

862
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: it is Kelley versus Marino's biggest rival of the Dolphins

863
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: on today because there's so many changes in the teams

864
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: today that you don't have the rival that you had

865
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: in the eighties in early nineties. Yeah. But here's the thing.

866
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Here's a thing, Elane. What happens when you start playing

867
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: a team in like as a division rival and then

868
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: also in the playoffs? You know, I mean, isn't that

869
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: when you get meaningful games when you're when the division

870
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: lead is on the line and things are going that way,

871
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: And isn't that kind of what makes a rivalry you

872
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: when you guys played, Yeah, well it was a rivalry

873
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: when we played, no question about it. And part of

874
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: it was because of what you said, Because the game

875
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: seem to always have meaning. They always seem to mean something.

876
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Many times they meant well, they meant a trip to

877
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: the super Bowl at one time, right right, We played

878
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: him in an AFC Championship, We played him in the

879
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: in the division round of the playoffs one year here

880
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, the AFC Championship game in Miami, we played

881
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: him for the you know, the lead in the division

882
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: on a number of occasions, and this also that was

883
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: after the nineteen seventies where they won twenty straight games

884
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: against the franchise, and that really, I think you can

885
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: imagine when if the Bills ever get to the point

886
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: where they're gonna start beating the Patriots on a regular

887
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: basis half the time or sixty percent of the time,

888
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: you can bet that there are a lot of fans

889
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo they're gonna relish every win after what

890
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: they've been through the last seventeen years. Those's biggest rival.

891
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: Who do you think it is? Tom? On the West

892
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: side of Buffalo? Go ahead, Tom, you're on the air

893
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: with this. Hey, guys. I was born in fifty nine,

894
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: and like Elaine, she's probably retired in Arizona, beautiful. I

895
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: wish I could anyway. My first game was at the

896
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: rock Pile against Green Bay. I still hate green Bay

897
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: to this day. During the day, it was Miami and

898
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: that was a great rivalry back then. Yeah, like all,

899
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: like all rivalries, I believe that one died. It is

900
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: now the Patriots, because the Patriots are the rival of

901
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: every team in the NFL. Okay, I don't think there's

902
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: a question. I mean, and there's a little bit to

903
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: be said about this, not certainly not to the extent

904
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but back in the in the team that

905
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: you're referring to, back in the nineties of the Buffalo Bills,

906
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: we felt like every team treated us a little differently.

907
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: They viewed that team. You know, teams who win consistently

908
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: and win big, and particularly if you go into a

909
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: place and beat them soundly in their building, they remember it,

910
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: and I think their fans remember it. So yeah, a

911
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: team like the Patriots could have like maybe ten teams

912
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: around the NFL that think, man, that's the team that

913
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: we want to crush, you know, so they can feel

914
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: like everybody feels like the Patriots are their rivalries. There's

915
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, and we had a little

916
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: bit of that back in the day. Certainly with the

917
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: rest of the teams in our division. It went that way.

918
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, for fans when I said this earlier,

919
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: it's it's personal, you know, like you like, like Tom mccaller,

920
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: he remembers green He hates Green Bay because he was

921
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: there with the first team he saw play the Bills

922
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: in a rock pile, and he still has that. So

923
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: for fans, it's got to be personal, right, Do you

924
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: have a personal Jets? Really? Yeah? I did say that

925
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: that is something with you is And I've noticed that

926
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: in our conversations. Every time the Jets come up, you're

927
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: like them, You're like hate them. I don't like them.

928
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: That's I don't I don't care. That's everybody's no. I

929
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: don't think so. Yeah, but it's but I'm introduced here.

930
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Lay down on my on the therapist couch here and

931
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: tell me why why you have scarred mental and emotional

932
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: scar tissue concerning the New York Jets. You know, there's

933
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: just I don't like going down there. The stadium is

934
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: not you know, it's an expensive stadium that's not that good. Um,

935
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: which that bothers me. But I don't care. They can

936
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: spend their money any anyway they want. But it's still

937
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: there is the Jets. I don't know if that goes

938
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: back to name it. Maybe there is just a little

939
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: bit of angst there about their stage, even though it's new.

940
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: The whole attitude down there. You know, they think they

941
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: invented pro football down there. And is there any sense

942
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: of envy on your part? Oh god, no, No, I

943
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be the Jets. Never, never wouldn't be

944
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: the Jets. No, sir, I don't know, You're not. I

945
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: don't think it doesn't sound convincing. Amateur amateur cycleanalysis going

946
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: on here? Did it go back to Joe Namath a

947
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: little bit little bit? Yeah, And I didn't hate Nameth

948
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: in fact, I rooted for them in Super Bowl three,

949
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: But um, you know, they got a lot of attention

950
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: back then, and the and the Buffalo Bills just two

951
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: years prior to their big year or three years anyway,

952
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: should have been there where the AFL champs. I mean

953
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: they twice. I mean the Bills had really a great

954
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: team that they've got a fraction of the attention the

955
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Jets got in nineteen sixty eight. So I think that's

956
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: probably the root of it. Yeah, I get it, am

957
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I done. I'll come back from more analysis. I think

958
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: our appointment, I think I think one of the things

959
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: about it is and we've we've skirted around this too.

960
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: The Jets have been around the playing the Bills a

961
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: long time. There's a lot of history, deep history. Same

962
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: thing with the Patriots, same and same same thing with

963
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Since their inception, they've been they were hit

964
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: in the league what five years after the Bills got

965
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: in sixty seven, yeah, seven seven or eight years seven,

966
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: eight years, seven years. So for the entire length of

967
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: their history, they've been an opponent twice a year of

968
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So there's a lot of water under

969
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: the bridge between the Jets and the Bills and the Dolphins,

970
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: and and as certain and the Patriots as well. So

971
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I I can see that it's gotta you know, you

972
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: kind of revolve around those and you can say the

973
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars here of late have certainly had a couple

974
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: of big games, but I think it when you go

975
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: down deep into the history, it's got to be one

976
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: of those three division teams. The Dolphins first year was

977
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six. The Bills played him in Week three

978
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixty sixth season, beat him fifty eight

979
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: to twenty four. Exactly. I'll go for that. Let's do

980
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: that again. We gotta break here. Armando Salguero of the

981
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Miami Herald gonna join us and we return. We'll get

982
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: an some insight into the Dolphins twenty eighteen season that's

983
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: coming up next. Stick around one Bills Live from One

984
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Bills Radio

985
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: Network Stories update. The update comes from One Bill's Drive.

986
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills on the practice field inside the at

987
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center their Thursday practice, getting set to

988
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: go against the Miami Dolphins coming up on Sunday in Miami.

989
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: The team's meeting for the first time this year. The

990
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: Bills swept the Dolphins last year, and that was the

991
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: third time in five seasons that the Bills have swept Miami.

992
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo is seven and three against Miami since twenty thirteen,

993
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: and they've been close ones two. Each of the last

994
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: four games have been decided by eight points or fewer.

995
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: On at practice today, the Bills hope to get Charles clayback.

996
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: He was limited yesterday's he recovers from that hamstring injury,

997
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: is in full pads today and may not be limited anymore.

998
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: Terrence Johnson looks to be limited, although he is wearing

999
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the non contact red jersey as he recovers from a

1000
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. John Miller not available to practice today. Did

1001
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday with an oblique muscle injury. The Bills

1002
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: are maybe looking at Jeremiah Searles, a right guard at

1003
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: right guard in place of John Miller. Searls signed back

1004
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: in late September. Former Minnesota Vikings started ten games for

1005
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: them a couple of years ago. Bills and the Dolphins

1006
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday in Miami, one o'clock kickoff. You can

1007
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: catch the game right here on our flagship radio station

1008
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, w g R Sports Radio five fIF Thursday

1009
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: Night Football Tonight. The ten and one New Orleans Saints

1010
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys. The Saints of one nine of

1011
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: their last eleven against the Cowboys. They've gone five and

1012
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: two against him. With Sean Payton is head coach, and

1013
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans has won ten in a row. They lost

1014
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: their season opening game to the Buccaneers this year. Ten

1015
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: game win streak by the Saints the longest by any

1016
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: team in a single season since Dallas won eleven in

1017
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: a row two years ago. Saints Cowboys at eighteen T

1018
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Stadium in Dallas, eight twenty Tonight, Thursday Night Football coming

1019
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: up tonight. Ruben Foster is now with the Washington Redskins

1020
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: when he plays. That's another story. Redskins coach Ja Gruden

1021
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: says the team understands the public outcry over the Redskins

1022
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: signing of the troubled linebacker Off Waivers. We're gonna let

1023
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: the NFL investigate a situation before they make any decision

1024
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: on the future in Washington. Sabers Hockey Tonight, game day

1025
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: in Tampa. The Sabers one point ahead of Tampa Bay

1026
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: and the standings. Savers going for their eleventh win in

1027
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: a row tonight, which would set a franchise record. And

1028
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: that's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve

1029
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: Tasker in our One Buffalo Studio Bills Dolphins coming up

1030
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: Sunday in Miami and to talk about the game. Joining

1031
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: us on the Subway Fresh Day Highline. Happy to have

1032
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins reporter for the Miami Herald, the Pro Football

1033
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: of Fame voter, he's covered the Dolphins in the NFL

1034
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: for more than twenty seven years. Armando Solguero of the

1035
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: Miami Herald on the line with us. Armando, Welcome back

1036
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: to the show. John Murphy and Steve task are up

1037
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining US. Yes, I have

1038
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: covered the Dolphins way back when the Dolphins and the

1039
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Bills would get together at the end of every year

1040
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: and the Bills would come to South Florida. The Dolphins

1041
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: would have high hopes and then the Bills would squash

1042
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: those hopes. It was wonderful, Armando, It was fun then

1043
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: while it lasted. What talk a little bit about this team.

1044
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's back in the SATLLUS quarterback What does that mean?

1045
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Did it mean anything? Was it noticeable? Did the team's

1046
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: demeanor performance? What changed when Tannehill got back on the field. Well,

1047
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: I would say that a significant part of the offense

1048
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: in that they ran a lot more routes that receivers

1049
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: could get deep on. That was apparent, although they didn't

1050
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: really connect on any of those. But you know, Ryan,

1051
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: regardless of his shoulder injury and it's still injured, it's

1052
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: not a hundred, he does have a better arm than

1053
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler, and so that that opened things up a

1054
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Also, he ran the ball a couple of times,

1055
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: so he's a lot more mobile than Osweyder. But other

1056
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: than that, not a whole lot change. Least of all

1057
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: and most importantly by the way the result they lost

1058
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: the game. And so you know, some people they they

1059
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: resigned themselves to not judging a quarterback based on wins

1060
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: and losses because it is a team game. But let's

1061
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: face it, the team game revolved around that one guy,

1062
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: and if that one guy can't can't help you win games,

1063
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: that one guy is a question mark. Well, with m

1064
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Armando Salgaro, the Miami HEROLD talking about the Dolphins, Buffalo's opponent,

1065
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Armando Stephen, I had this discussion in our office earlier today.

1066
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: And you've seen every game that Tannehill has played in

1067
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: the NFL. Where would you where would you put him?

1068
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Is he average quarterback, better than average, slightly less than average?

1069
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Where would you rank him among NFL quarterbacks? That's part one.

1070
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Part two is what does his future look like with

1071
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. So if you're if you've got thirty two teams,

1072
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: which obviously you do, and that means you've got thirty

1073
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: two starting quarterbacks, Ryan and somewhere in the sixteen seventeen

1074
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: on some days, maybe fifteen on other days. But he's

1075
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: a very middle of the pact type of guy. He's

1076
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: not an elite quarterback. You know, he is not the

1077
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: guy that's going to give you hope at the start

1078
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: of the season that you're going to contend for a

1079
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl title. And that's been the problem because he's

1080
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: thirty years old now, he's been with the team seven years,

1081
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: and up until the start of this year, there were

1082
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: still questions about, well, can he improve to the next level?

1083
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: Can he be the next guy? I think those questions

1084
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: have been answered. And the fact that he's missed so

1085
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: many games. He missed all of twenty seventeen, he missed

1086
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: five games this year, and he missed four games at

1087
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: the end of twenty sixteen. That kind of is affecting

1088
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: the opinion of Ryan Tannehill down here. And the effect is,

1089
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be the starting

1090
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. That they went into Indianapolis last week,

1091
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: they lost by three points after you know, kind of

1092
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: having to dig out of a hole early to the Colts.

1093
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: And you were a little bit critical in one of

1094
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: your articles about the play calling going down the stretch.

1095
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: What is the opinion of most Dolphin fans, Adam Gaze,

1096
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: how he handles the offense with or without Ryan Tannehill. Right,

1097
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: So here's the problem, Adam is a great person. He's

1098
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: he is a leader. I'll give him that. He's a

1099
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: guy that guys want to play for and and respect.

1100
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: But they were tied with three minutes to play in

1101
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They were at their own six yard line,

1102
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: and they faced a third and ten situation, and with

1103
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: his starting quarterback in the game, the game on the line,

1104
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Dolphins had defense had just

1105
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: collapsed to Andrew Luck who had you know, erased a

1106
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: ten point deficit, and now the game was tied. In

1107
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: that situation, the Dolphins handed the ball off and decided,

1108
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: we're not we're not going to try to throw on

1109
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: this the Indianapolis Colts. And this is the part where

1110
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: I dare you guys to name me two players on

1111
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts defense, because frankly, most people can't, and

1112
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: much less their defensive front. What people down here in

1113
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: South Florida have decided is, dude, you basically curled up

1114
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: into the fetal position and didn't attack. And that's not

1115
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: who you've been and that's not who you say you've been.

1116
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: So that was a problem and that that's where the

1117
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: criticism came from. Now I understand that the book and

1118
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: the odds and all that stuff. It was against the Dolphins.

1119
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: It was bad, really bad. Like the Colts have stopped

1120
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: ninety plus percent of third and ten plus situations the

1121
00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: last all all seasons, and so the odds were bad.

1122
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: But you know, just because it went poorly for other teams,

1123
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: you're accepting that it will go poorly for your team.

1124
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: And again, the Dolphins defense is wretched. I mean they're

1125
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: really bad. And Andrew Luck had him on their heels

1126
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: and that was the unit that Adam Gays showed more

1127
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: confidence in. Huh I mindo, I have an opinion about

1128
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: Adam Gates. I want to run by you. I think

1129
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: he's probably a really good coordinator of offense and your

1130
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: last example not with standing in a pretty good play caller.

1131
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a head coach. What do

1132
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you see there? What do you see from Gates? Now?

1133
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: So he works his way through his what third year

1134
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins? Right? Right? Well, I would say that

1135
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: the jury is out and you know, so he's been

1136
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: here three years. His record as a head coach is

1137
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: twenty six and twenty seven. By the way, you want,

1138
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: you guys want a stat Yes, we love stats since

1139
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. In other words, a quarter of a century.

1140
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins record has been one ninety six and

1141
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: one ninety seven. Wow, since twenty four years? Well is

1142
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: it twenty four? How many seasons is that? Is that

1143
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: almost twenty five seasons? Yeah? Yeah, So So the thing is,

1144
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: folks down here they don't like mediocrity. They hate mediocrity because,

1145
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: as Jimmy Johnson one said, the enemy of great is good.

1146
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Good gets you the number sixteen draft pick in the

1147
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: first round. Good, maybe you get into the playoffs. Probably

1148
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: you don't. But either way, you're not doing anything. You're

1149
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: not competing for a championship. Good means that you're not

1150
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: winning any division titles. Good means that basically you're irrelevant.

1151
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: You got no shot. What's the point? And so down here,

1152
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: that's the debate that's going on right now. Look, the

1153
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts who just beat the Dolphins, they were really

1154
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: great for over a decade with Peyton Manning. In fact,

1155
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: for fifteen years with Peyton Manning, and then they had

1156
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: one horrible, catastrophic, awful, terrible seasons and that put him in,

1157
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a position to pick oh yeah, Andrew

1158
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: Luck and now he's gonna be great for fifteen more years.

1159
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: That is the way to do it. And I know

1160
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: that there's certain amount of luck in that, but let's

1161
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: face it, if you don't have an elite quarterback, a

1162
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: great quarterback, you don't have a chance to win a

1163
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And if you don't have a chance to

1164
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl, what's the point there? Ego, Armando,

1165
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: you said at all I want and I wanted to

1166
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: ask you as well. When as the Buffalo Bills come

1167
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: down to face the Dolphins this weekend, what is the

1168
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: opinion buy and large of Dolphin fans and maybe the

1169
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins team about the Buffalo Bills, where they are right

1170
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: now and where their roster is. What's their opinion about

1171
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: how this game is gonna go? Right? So, the Dolphins

1172
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: expect to win, their fans expect them to win. If

1173
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: they don't, it'll be armageddon, because frankly, the Dolphins are

1174
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: good at home. They're four and one at home right now,

1175
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: and they're terrible on the road. They're one in five.

1176
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: If you ask me the last week in December, what

1177
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: fans expect will happen when the Dolphins visit Buffalo. I

1178
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: would say to you they expect to lose, but this

1179
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: week they expect to win. And where the Bills are

1180
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: it goes back to the conversation we had before. Look,

1181
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: the Bills are not a good team. I'm sorry to

1182
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: say this, but they're just not just just they got

1183
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: that they got a lot of work to do. But

1184
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: the Bills have something that the Dolphins don't in that

1185
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: they've got the hope that a quarterback that they picked

1186
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: this year will develop into something great the next Jim

1187
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: Kelly maybe. And I know that's asking a lot, somebody

1188
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: that will head and be the face of the franchise

1189
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: and be a guy that other teams will go, oh crap,

1190
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: we got to play him this week. The Dolphins don't

1191
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: have that. The Dolphins have a thirty year old guy

1192
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: that they're still trying to make a decision on. The

1193
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Bills have hope. The Bills have a foundation that they're

1194
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: gonna have salary cap room next year, and they're gonna

1195
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: have fairly high picks next year. None of those things

1196
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: applied to the Miami Dolphins. The Miami Herald is with us.

1197
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: He covers the Dolphins beat reported they're also a Pro

1198
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame Arando do us a favorite. Steve

1199
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: and I had a disagreement the other day about was

1200
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: it yesterday about Frank Gore fourth all time rusher? I

1201
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: know that, but is he in fact a Hall of

1202
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Famer Frank Gore the Dolphins running back? What do you think?

1203
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: I believe he is? And the reason that I believe

1204
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: he is is again I know the argument, Well, he's

1205
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: played forever and so that's the reason he's number four

1206
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: all times. Well, longevity is a thing. Yeah, that's a

1207
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: great thing. That's not You don't ding guys for longevity.

1208
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: You you raise guys up for longevity. And the bottom

1209
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: line is over his career, I believe his yards per

1210
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: carry average is about four point four, which again is

1211
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: better than most guys in the Hall of Fame. Now,

1212
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: so I don't understand who wasn't that was against Frank

1213
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: or oh that was that would have been me? Yeah,

1214
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: I know better, and I did back down, although I

1215
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: don't know today. I woke up and had second thoughts

1216
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: about back and you know what, Armando, I said the

1217
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: exact same thing. You'd yeah, he's he's got all those yards,

1218
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: but he's he's thirty fight played for fifteen years, I said,

1219
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: that's you know, you see other guys in the Hall

1220
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: of Fame and that was kind of their their way

1221
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: too great statistics over their careers because they did play

1222
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: a long time. That is a thing. And I'll tell

1223
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: you what, players really respect longevity as much as they

1224
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: respect statistics. That's that's as big a thing for players,

1225
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: and I guess from what you're telling us, it's a

1226
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: thing for the Hall of Fame voters as well. Absolutely.

1227
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: And again it's not like, you know, he's averaging three

1228
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: point four yards a carry throughout his career. He's a

1229
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: four and a half almost pop. Well, don't you you're

1230
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna get into the Hall of Fame meeting, you know,

1231
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: five six years down the road, Armando and his name

1232
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: will come up, And don't you think somebody's gonna stand

1233
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: up and say, hey, this guy was never the best

1234
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: running back in the league during his career and he

1235
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: never led the league in rushing during his career. That's true, um,

1236
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: And they will say that. In fact, it has been

1237
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: said of many players that have been coming up lately.

1238
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: You know why Terrell Darrell Owens didn't not Terrell Owens,

1239
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: the kid from Denver, What was the running back from Denver.

1240
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: Who oh, Terrell Davis. Terrell Davis, you know why he

1241
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: didn't make it his first year. The guy rushed for

1242
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: two thousand yards one year. He was amazing. He was

1243
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: the best from in a three year span, maybe ever.

1244
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: But he only played like six years and he was

1245
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: only good like four and a half of those years.

1246
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: He was a shooting star, right, Frank Gore, He wasn't

1247
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: a shooting star. He was the Sun and he melted

1248
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: defenses away for a long time. All Right, I pumped

1249
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: the brakes on the Sun thing. But yeah, I get it. Yeah,

1250
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: I understand that completely. One last thing I want to

1251
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: ask you about Romando before we come back. We've got

1252
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: a guy on the Bills team up here named Jordan

1253
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: Phillips who may just be a hair more motivated than usual.

1254
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: Not that he hasn't played well for the Bills up

1255
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: this far are but there's no question he's got to

1256
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: feel like he's got something to prove by the to

1257
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. How how does that get viewed from the

1258
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Miami end of the equation? So the Dolphin. Yeah, motivation

1259
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: is the thing for Jordan. When he's got it, he's

1260
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: dangerous when he does it. Um. Look, the Miami Dolphins

1261
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: are taking the high road on Jordan Phillips. They're not

1262
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: going to say anything negative about Jordan Phillips, but their

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Speaker 1: actions speak loudly about what they caught. They cut the

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Speaker 1: guy after a game in which she and his position

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Speaker 1: coach got into a heated sideline discussion. Let's put it

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Speaker 1: that way. And you know they they used words that

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Speaker 1: are not used in mixed company at each other. Right.

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Speaker 1: They sided with the coach. They decided that his career

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: was not worthy of continuing here. And they had really

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Speaker 1: put it on Jordans because Jordan's in a contract year

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: and so he had that motivation to use and he

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Speaker 1: really wasn't using it the first four and a half

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Speaker 1: games or so that he was here. I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: he's done a whole lot better in Buffalo, But let's

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Speaker 1: face it, what is Jordan Phillips. Jordan Phillips is a

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Speaker 1: rotational defensive tackle, twenty five snaps the game, solid backup.

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Speaker 1: He's not you know, the guys, let's not. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Donald, right. I wonder I have one

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Speaker 1: more question for you, and this one is about a

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Speaker 1: former Buffalo bill I always appreciated Keiko Alonso love the

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Speaker 1: way he played here. Two part question, how is Keiko playing?

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Speaker 1: And is he in fact a dirty player? I get

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Speaker 1: the sense. I try not to put too much, you know,

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Speaker 1: wait under what you eat on Twitter? But there's a

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Speaker 1: person option. Maybe it's just a Buffalo thing that Keko

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Speaker 1: is somehow some kind of a head hunter and a

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Speaker 1: dirty player. Is he a dirty player? And now's he

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Speaker 1: playing in general? Well? Okay, so he's playing, Well, he's

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Speaker 1: making plays. We're all speaking in the context of the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins have September twenty nine ranked run defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So understand that, right, He's not. He's not, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a Buffalo favorite Brian Cox or somebody like that, Thomas.

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Speaker 1: But as far as head hunter, if you talk to Keiko,

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Speaker 1: he is a very shy, introverted kind of guy. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: say a lot, doesn't like to say a lot. His

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Speaker 1: dad has told me Keko doesn't talk to the family

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Speaker 1: very much. He's had a lot of fun around the

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Speaker 1: dinner table. Yeah, let me let me just end his

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Speaker 1: dad AROUNDO. His dad told me when he played here,

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Speaker 1: he said, we have to listen to your radio show

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01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: because Keko never calls home. We don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: on up there exactly exactly. You know, the dad has

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Speaker 1: a great personality and and Kiko got zero percent of that.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, is he a headhunter? Is he

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Speaker 1: a I don't see that. Look, he's been in some

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Speaker 1: plays like Jordan's. Uh not Jordan's, Um Joe Flacco last

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Speaker 1: year that everybody saw on a prime time game. I think.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Flacco is sliding at the last moment and

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: Kiko was in mid air. Unfortunately for Kiko, he cannot

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: defy the laws of gravity and physics. He just couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Uh So he landed on you know, he went at

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01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: the guy's head. I didn't see an elbow, did you know. Um,

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: I didn't see him giving him the business afterwards, So

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01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: I don't you know. And and bottom line is Kiko

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: is is a speed type of player. He's not a

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Speaker 1: bulk Earth type of player, right, And so I'm not

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: sure that he's doing a whole lot of damage. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, and this is pretty funny. Earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: somebody jacked him up on a play, and yes, and

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Speaker 1: he ended up going to the jet sideline. Yeah, he

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: was so mixed up that she went to the jet

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Speaker 1: sideline afterwards and they're like, get out here, dude, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh, that was probably like the most paragraphs

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Speaker 1: he has spoken this year. But he's a good natured kid.

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Speaker 1: He really is. I think so too. Armando, great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Thank you for spending a few minutes

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Speaker 1: with us. Year today we appreach it. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: Sunday down there, all right, man, thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Armando saw Garo from the Miami Harold Beat, writer covers

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Longtime a Dolphins reporter since nineteen ninety, he

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Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh State Hotline, presented by

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Speaker 1: Subway Restaurants, probably locally owned and operating. Armando was right

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Speaker 1: about Kiko. It was that. I think it was Thursday

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: night game against the Ravens quest year when he drilled flak.

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh it was. He got penalized for it, as he

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01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: should have. But I don't think it is a history

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: of cheap hits or going after quarterbacks. Now. He's a

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: fast guys. He's a little bit like the Bills fans now,

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: and don't forget you know, the Bills. He started his

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: career here and remember the legend of Kiko Alonso. I

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: mean it was a big thing that he was a

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: rookie that came in and started playing well right away.

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: But he's a little bit to me, he's like Matt Milano. Yeah,

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: currently right. I mean they kind of fall into that

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: same category where they were kind of playmakers. They were

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Speaker 1: always around the ball, they were fast guys. They weren't

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: like big a big gritty run stuffers, but they were playmakers.

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's exactly what Kiko Alonso is

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: and has been throughout his career. He's on his third

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: team now and it's the Mammi Dolphins. You seem twice

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: a year. Yep, Hey, thank you, Tarmado. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back with more One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bills Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: the show, The Big Show, John Murphy's Steve Tasker here

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: until three o'clock today. We're halfway through it and it

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: feels like we just started. What a good show this

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Speaker 1: is really? Don't you agree? Yeah, it's it's been fun

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: so far. It's been really Amandouero so Gara, I was correct? Algara, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you. Armando was great. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: good friend of the show, I guess coming on. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he has. He's been covering the NFL since eighty two,

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Speaker 1: it said, I thought, yeah, that's wow. He cried he

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Speaker 1: crushed the Dolphins on a couple of occasions, but imreshable. Yeah,

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he's a beat writer, so they

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Speaker 1: do that. He's they're crushable. Hey, we want to know

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Speaker 1: from you who's the Bill's biggest rival. That's the topic

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Speaker 1: of the day. It's our Twitter poll. Who do you

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01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: think is the one team that really gets Bills fans

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: worked out? On Twitter? We've asked that question since noon.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of responses in and on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one percent of you say it's the Patriots, the

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Speaker 1: Bills have always struggle against. Twenty five percent of you

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01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: say it's the Jaguars, and just fifteen percent say the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Let's know what you think eight h three five fifty

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Speaker 1: to three one eight eight eight. Got some tweets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have not read any any responses from the tweet sheet,

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: but here's a couple of them from Joe Nataro. As

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Speaker 1: much as I'd like to say the Dolphins, which was

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: definitely the answer when I was a kid. That rivalry

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: is all but dead today. I don't know what the

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: Bills really have that their Bills really have a rivalry

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01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: these days. Maybe the Jets. That's from Joe, Okay, from

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: Diehard Dan. I think the number one rival is still

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The decade of Miami's dominance, leading to Kelly

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: into Kelly versus Marino, the Snow Game, and most recently

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01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: the high scoring give and take of wins between teams

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots two. But honestly, a lawnmore doesn't have a

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: rivalry with the grass. That's good. I never heard of

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: that before. That's really good. The Lawhard doesn't have a

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01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: rivalry with grass. That's pretty good. I gotta tip my

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: hat to die Hard Day. One thing that happens now

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: and it happened back then in the nineties two when

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: when the Bills were and the Dolphins are going at it.

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: Uh these games in South Florida. I'm telling you last

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: January it was New Year's Eve, maybe a third of

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: the stadium were Bills fans. And that'll happen again Sunday.

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: Maybe not, Yeah, probably it will be percent will be

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: Bills fans. There's a lot of people headed down there. Yeah,

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: people headed down there, people to live down there, people

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: all over Florida, Rance plants, people all over Florida from

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01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 1: from western New York, and Bills fans, and they traveled

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: to this game. And they make this a part of

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01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: their regular annual calendar. Bills that Dolphins, That'll that'll happen

1404
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: this Sunday. And it used to be as well that

1405
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: the team, because it was always that rivalry and it

1406
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: was always going to be an important game. Even the team,

1407
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: the business development people, the PR people, they would bring

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: clients and partners, corporate sponsors down with them, take trips

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01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: down there to the Miami and they, you know, they'd

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: have a couple of parties, a couple of social events

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: in conjunction over the weekend with the game, because you know,

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: Miami is a destination at this time of year, and

1413
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: they'd take advantage of it. Yep, Joe and Jamestown, Bill's

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: biggest rival right now, Who do you think it is? Joe? Joe?

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: Do we lose you? I believe we lost him. Joe,

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: call back. That might have been my fault, but thanks

1417
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: for calling. I got the wrong My phones keep cutting out.

1418
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: See what are you laughing about I'm trying to run.

1419
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm laughing with you, Murph, not at trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Here is Robin Rochester Bill's biggest rival. Rob Are you there?

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: I think you are? I am. I am here, guys,

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: And I was going to call and talk to you

1423
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: guys about why I think the Dolphins are the biggest rival.

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01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: I was going to give my point, but I had

1425
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: much rather just say that you guys both Steve Tasker.

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01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker did a lot for me with the Bill

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: when I was growing up. He helped me find the

1428
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: magic of the Bills. And I also think that you John,

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: You gave me a lot of passion for the Bills.

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: So thank you for that and welcome. Thank you. Can

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: you guys, can you guys say that joke about the

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: lawnmower again? Because I had missed the I didn't get punchline, Well,

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: the lawnmower doesn't have a rivalry with the grass. That hard.

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: Dan was trying to make the point that he hates

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but to say the Patriots have a rivalry

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: with the Bills or vice versa. He says, honestly, a

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: lawnmower doesn't have a rivalry with grass, the lawnmore chops

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01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: down grass. Yes, but the lawnmower positions the Patriots or

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: the lawnmower, And that's in that joke, so you can

1440
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: figure the rest of it out. Rob. Did you ever

1441
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: hear when you have to explain a joke that all

1442
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's not funny anymore. I think we've

1443
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: just proved that theory. What else did you want to

1444
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: talk about, Rob, Because we only had to squish the

1445
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: fish thing going on, even when we had to kill

1446
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: spikes and we were bad, like all those years where

1447
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: we were seven and nine and stuff like, we always

1448
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: had the Dolphins to sort of like say, Okay, we're

1449
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: not gonna make the playoffs. We're horrible, but like the

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: at least we beat the Dolphins, and the Patriots were

1451
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: good at that Dolphins. Everyone agreed we're still the biggest rival.

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that with us being like mediocre

1453
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: with them that it's sort of the same thing now,

1454
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: like we can rekindle that or you don't have to

1455
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: speak to that. Just what do you guys think of

1456
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? Does our arrival even though we're not good?

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: That's what I would like to hear you speaking, they're

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: not good either. Yeah, they're not good either. And I

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's for it to be a

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: really a real rivalry, there's got to be something on

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01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: the line more than just one win or loss. There's

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: got to be playoffs on the line. There's got to

1463
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: be division crown on the line. There's got to be

1464
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: important things on the line. For it to be a rivalry,

1465
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: the fans have to feel the importance of the game

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: rather than just there's just one more game on the schedule.

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: And at this point for both these teams, them at

1468
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: what to five and six, the Bills at four and seven,

1469
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: you know this is you kind of got to think, well,

1470
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, in this big scheme of things, this is

1471
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: just another another notch in the long history, because this

1472
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: is not one of those games that's going to mean

1473
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: something at the end of the season to either one

1474
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: of these teams in the playoff run or the division title. Certainly,

1475
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: the Bills want to want to extend it to a

1476
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: three game winning streak. The Dolphins want to do more

1477
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: than just lose four out of their last five. But

1478
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: until these games get meaningful for both teams, then I

1479
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: think you got you gotta think that's not really the

1480
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of rivalry we're talking about. I don't know about that,

1481
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: I think, and you can there's plenty of examples of

1482
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: a long time I'm thinking college football here, mostly long

1483
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: time rivals have played each other every year, and the

1484
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: games don't have a great amount of importance other than

1485
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: the game. You know, Harvard and Yale, where are they

1486
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: going nowhere? When they play? It's a rivalry game, you know.

1487
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: So I do think you can have a decent, not

1488
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: great rivalry, but a decent rivalry against a long time opponent.

1489
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Bills and Dolphins qualified

1490
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: for here. I get it. It's more fun where there's

1491
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: a lot on the line. Hasn't been between these two

1492
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: for a while. But I mean, I'll to be honest

1493
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: with the Steve. That New Year's Eve game last year,

1494
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills of course had to win to get

1495
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: a chance at the playoffs. They did, and we all

1496
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: worked out that was fun to do that against the Dolphins,

1497
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: and to have Kyle Williams score a touchdown against the Dolphins,

1498
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: and to win in Miami on New Year's Eve with

1499
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: the place almost half full with Bills fans, that was fun.

1500
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: The fact that it was the Dolphins, I think last

1501
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: last year, last New Year's Eve. The fact that it

1502
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: was against the Dolphins added to that. I'm sorry, go ahead,

1503
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: what'd you say? I forgot about that game? That game? Actually,

1504
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: that pumps me up a lot about this game, because

1505
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: do you remember the fights they were having and Kyle

1506
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Williams finally scored a touchdown and that was awesome. Yeah,

1507
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: somebody got out of the game. There was a couple

1508
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: of scuffles. The receiver got thrown out of the game.

1509
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this. We talked about this earlier in the show,

1510
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: and I had spoken to the Bills this morning about

1511
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: this rivalry and game, a kind of a history lesson,

1512
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, there there is some animosity there.

1513
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: And Sean McDermott showed the plays in which there was

1514
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: a scuffle last year. He showed a couple of us.

1515
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: They've got it does mean something, This is something different,

1516
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: This is there is an extra level. Yeah. So right,

1517
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: so it was important. And I think another thing that

1518
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: gets lost in this Bills fans go down to see

1519
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: Miami play, to their Bills play against the Miami Dolphins.

1520
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: You say it's because of the weather, and because it's

1521
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: a great destination, that's fine. But they're going down there

1522
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: because their team is down there. You don't see that

1523
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Miami doesn't bring fans up here with them.

1524
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: And you can laugh at that and say, hey, yeah,

1525
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: well of course they don't because it's not adinate. Hey whatever,

1526
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. I didn't hear any outrage in Miami fans,

1527
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: their their writers, anybody associated with a team that was

1528
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: all that upset with them getting beat by Buffalo last year.

1529
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: They were they were not and they were not emotionally

1530
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: invested in that game, and they were an absolute mess.

1531
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I was thinking going back to Chris Brown,

1532
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: who joined us about an hour ago from the practice field,

1533
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: talking about the current Dolphins problems, and yes, they've lost

1534
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: two in a row, tough loss at Indie last week.

1535
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: Yes they've lost four or five, they were three and

1536
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: oz and now they've lost what seven of their last six,

1537
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: of their last seven I think it is maybe seven

1538
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: or last date. But Chris talked about how maybe the

1539
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: Dolphins are done. And I said this to you last

1540
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: week about Jacksonville. I've learned over the years, painfully sometimes

1541
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: never to count on a team just mailing it in.

1542
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: I just don't think you can. In the NFL. The

1543
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: only team that, in my mind will do that more

1544
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 1: often than not are believe it or not, my favorite

1545
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: New York Jets. I've seen the Jets cave and I have.

1546
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: I've seen them just kind of. They did it a

1547
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago against Buffalo. I've seen them do it

1548
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: more than any of the team over my entire career.

1549
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: Seeing the Jets maybe the only team that you can

1550
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: count on for just saying add we're out, we're done.

1551
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on that against the Dolphins. I think

1552
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: they did last December. Did they do it again? I

1553
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: don't know. There's five games up to play. I don't

1554
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: think they do. Most teams don't do that. It was

1555
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: the end of a bad season, last year's last game

1556
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: of the Year's eve, you New Year's Eve, they were done. Um,

1557
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: this is a different scenario than that you think. You know,

1558
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: we've been we've you know, you get snark on Twitter

1559
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: and and there was a lot of it after the

1560
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: game last week where the Bills obviously climbed in They're

1561
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: like in the hunt on the television graphics because they're

1562
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: not mathematically eliminated. The Dolphins are far from their game

1563
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: ahead of the Bills. Do you think we're not that

1564
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: that is like not even on their radar. They are

1565
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: so off, that is so off their topic of conversation list. Um,

1566
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: that's where they're at there mentally. I don't think they're

1567
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: even to the point where they're thinking about big picture.

1568
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: I never count on that. I never I think you've

1569
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: got to think they're gonna come in and play hard.

1570
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: Most teams play hard. They're gonna play hard, So why

1571
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: the games are pretty good most of the time. Here

1572
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: is a Colin in California. Hello, Colin, go ahead, you're

1573
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 1: on the air with this. Hey, what's up guy? They're Colin?

1574
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: What happened? Yeah? Go ahead? At you? Yeah, go ahead? Okay.

1575
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: So my first thing was, so I can add to

1576
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: how many beers I can get to drink this week

1577
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: during the Bills game? You do the Hall of Fame?

1578
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh all right, vote? What is that? A vote for

1579
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: Steve for the Hall of Fame? Said? How many beers

1580
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: do you have to drink and vote for me to

1581
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: for the game or something like that? What else you got, Colin?

1582
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: My wife and me have a bill that However, many

1583
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: uh people give votes for Steve for the Hall of

1584
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Fame as how many beers I get to drink there

1585
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: in the weekend. So okay, no, that doesn't count. Fun couple.

1586
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: You can't count that as another vote. You just had it.

1587
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: That's eighty six. Here we go. Yeah, okay, what a

1588
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: fun couple. That's very nice. Thanks Colin. We're having trouble

1589
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: hearing you. I think, uh, let's go to one more

1590
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: call here, Jim on the line, Jim, go ahead, What

1591
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: do you got who's the Bill's biggest rival currently? What

1592
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: do you think? Well, I think it's the Dolphins, I

1593
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: really do. Of course. On another note, there a Steve Pasker.

1594
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: I want to say to you that you were one

1595
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 1: of our greatest special teams players where you followed you

1596
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot. We think you're quite a quite a player there.

1597
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. The person and I want

1598
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: to say is the super Bowl that was one with

1599
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: the soft football with Tom Berdie. This this really hit

1600
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot of us hard. Yeah. That wasn't a super Bowl, right,

1601
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: it was a playoff game against Indianapolis. Yeah right, Well,

1602
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. You have a playoff, but we

1603
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: figured that should have been played over again. Okay, We're fine,

1604
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: then brought. I mean, it's just a personal thing that

1605
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: makes you think, hey, these guys cheated, and you know,

1606
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: and they got away with it more or less. And

1607
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: now he's put on a pedestal, you know, in one

1608
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: of the biggest quarterbacks, which is fine, but I think

1609
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: we have one that's going to be a Jim Kylie rival.

1610
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen is going to be one of

1611
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks that the Bills have had. I really

1612
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: do believe that. Okay, I hope you're right. Thanks very

1613
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: much for Colin. Jim. Josh Allen schedule to join us

1614
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: when practice ends. Practice probably gonna end of a fifteen

1615
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 1: to twenty minutes or so. I just want to go

1616
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: back a minute. He started out talking about you as

1617
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 1: a great special teamer. But I think we have a

1618
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: voting irregularity here. We do. He never actually said I'd

1619
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: want to vote for Steve for the Hall of Fame,

1620
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: and for some reason, the voting counters we've employed vote

1621
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: counters in the other room accidentally. I believe it's the reality.

1622
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: The reality of how far fetched it is is starting

1623
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: to say, you're starting to just count votes that don't count.

1624
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: That was not a vote, So we'd like to take

1625
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: that vote off the board, if that's possible board. I

1626
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: don't think that counts as a Steve Tasker Hall of Fame.

1627
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: Reality of the hill that you've chosen to climb is

1628
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: starting to sink in. Now, what are you talking about.

1629
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: You're starting to get their counting votes in the back

1630
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: that don't even don't even votes. They're desperate, see nobody,

1631
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: see no, no, no. I just want to have I

1632
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: don't want there to be any question when you're officially

1633
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: voted into the Pro Football of Fame by Bills fans.

1634
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't want any questions. I don't want any challenges.

1635
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't any recounts or anything like that. I think

1636
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: they want to have an active votes. So we're going

1637
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: to take that gyms they did. They say they're they're

1638
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: selling us. They officially took it away. I guess we

1639
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: don't have the graphics and the show we're not going

1640
01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: to do. They're not gonna put it up there because

1641
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: I think they're having struck. They can't count backwards. Tell

1642
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: us they did more of this coming up, come on

1643
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: back one Bill's Live from One Bills Drive. Josh Allen

1644
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: gonna join us after practice today. This is Buffalo Bill's

1645
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: Radio One Doll's Live from one Bills Drive. John Murphy,

1646
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker from Orchard Bark got a big show coming

1647
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: up tomorrow as well. Great Coat all will join us

1648
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: the Runzo Alexander. I believe we have Mark Kelso back

1649
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: on the show, our Friday routine. We got the Josh

1650
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: Allen schedule to join us moments from now when practice ends,

1651
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk more about rivals. Who's the Bill's

1652
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: biggest rival currently? Give us a call eight oh three

1653
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight fifty two

1654
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: five fifty Steve, this is interesting. Came across this Tampa

1655
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers are gonna give away free tickets to their

1656
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: game this week against Carolina. Season ticket holders from Tampa

1657
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: Bay got notices they are eligible to receive two free

1658
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: tickets Sunday. They have until today to opt in a

1659
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: limited number of seats, so not all season ticket holders

1660
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: got the offer. Being done on a first come, first

1661
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: served basis the reason they're not selling seats, say at

1662
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: fifty thousand, four hundred last week against San Francisco. The

1663
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Bucks won that game. The actual attendance accorded by recorded

1664
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: by the Tampa Sports Authority was closer to forty thousand,

1665
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: six hundred Raymond James Stadium and Tampa seats sixty six thousand.

1666
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: The Bucks deny that it's poor turnout. They say it's

1667
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: a gift for the holidays of those season ticket holders.

1668
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: The Bucks averaging fifty five thousand fans per home game

1669
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: this year. That in a way, I don't want to

1670
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: overstate this, alarm bells go off of my head when

1671
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: teams have to give away free tickets because of poor attendance,

1672
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: give them away to season ticket holders, their best customers. Obviously,

1673
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: I have to say I'm alarmed by that. I think

1674
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: that's not right. I don't know if that's a good precedent.

1675
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: Your thoughts plea when they're what I got to give

1676
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: them to their season ticket holders. Can you imagine giving

1677
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: them to just anybody and having a season ticket holders go,

1678
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: why'd have to pay for mine? Right? But to give

1679
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: The only reason it's smacks of something different is because

1680
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: it happened now in the middle of a season where

1681
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: they're struggling. If they would have said back in July, say, listen,

1682
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: when the holidays ruld around, we're gonna give some tickets

1683
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: back to our season ticket holders for their support and

1684
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: all that. Well, they didn't do it, then they did

1685
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: it now. Because they're averaging fifty five thousand people a game,

1686
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: that's only seven thousand. Last year they averaged fifty nine

1687
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: sixty thousand. Okay, well, yes, that's a pretty pretty significant drop. Yeah,

1688
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: and they're not good. We know that the bucks sound good.

1689
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I think alarms me a little bit. And

1690
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm not going crazy about this. There's always been talking

1691
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL that it's the stadiums might become TV studios,

1692
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: that the game is set up for TV, whether it's

1693
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, primetime TV or just Sunday. I mean the

1694
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: game the financial base of the game is network television revenue.

1695
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: And this to me kind of smacks of um. You

1696
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: know how if you've got a game show in Hollywood,

1697
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: you give a free studio audience, the audience you'd like

1698
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: free tickets to come in and watch Jeopardy send sending

1699
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: a cardio. This is a little bit of a step

1700
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: in that direction, just a little tiny step, but it's

1701
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: a little alarming to me. It's just to make the

1702
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: game look better on television. Yeah, yeah, you're part of

1703
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: the show. You're part of the TV show. I don't know, though,

1704
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of bad stadium looks, Miami Dolphins

1705
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: being one of them, some games down there where that

1706
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: place was an empty yeah, you know, comparatively speaking, And

1707
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: it's uh, and it happens once a while around this,

1708
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, and for here in Buffalo, I mean, who

1709
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: knows it better than the Bills fan base. I mean,

1710
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: they used to have an eighty thousand, two hundred and

1711
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: fifty seats stadium here and over the years it's dropped down.

1712
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Now it's about seventy seventy three. Is still one of

1713
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: the bigger stadiums in the league. And you know, you

1714
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: get down in the midst of a bad season around

1715
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Christmas time. Yeah, there are some empty seats sometimes, but

1716
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: the fan support has always been consistently really good here

1717
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and even and so I but I do

1718
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: get it. There are times are the year Christmas being

1719
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: one of them where people, you know what, I'm spending

1720
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: my money someplace else this time. They were also the

1721
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: Bucks said to be concerned with the opposing teams fans

1722
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: um coming into their stadium. The Steelers Monday Night Football

1723
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I didn't know. Listen, in

1724
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: recent years, the Bucks began to revoke season ticket holders

1725
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: memberships if they continue to sell their tickets. Came on,

1726
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and that's crazy, that's crazy talk to me. Plus, you're

1727
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: telling me that the ownership group doesn't want those tickets

1728
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: whether non no know who they're for. I know and listen.

1729
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers franchise, and I'll tip my hat to them.

1730
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: They travel better than any franchise in the National Football

1731
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: You always have. However, since the seventies when they were

1732
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: winning all those Super Bowls, their fans go on the

1733
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: road and show up in stadiums big time Bill's fans

1734
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: have seen it here in Buffalo and the occasion when

1735
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: you play them, I've seen him when I've covered them

1736
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: on the road. The Steelers fan base travels consistently. And

1737
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I come on, like Tampa Bay's gonna get insulted by

1738
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 1: the fact that they've got another fan base and wants

1739
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: to see their team on the road. Come on, that's

1740
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: crazy talk. That's that's it. That's marketing, that's pr that's

1741
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: not truth. What you don't think they revoke I'm telling you,

1742
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm reading this item from ESPN. In recent years, the

1743
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Bucks began to revoke season ticket holders memberships if fans

1744
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: continue to sell their tickets to opposing teams. Fan here's

1745
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: the thing. Now, you know there's ticket brokers out there,

1746
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: guys who buy blocks of twenty. Maybe they revoke those.

1747
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, you're talking about

1748
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: a guy who buys two tickets, he's gone, he's gonna

1749
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: They're not gonna revoke his. But those those places that

1750
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: buy like a block of fifty seasons in news, I

1751
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: think it's contrived a little bit. Yeah, why would it

1752
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: be contrived because they're trying to make the Tampa Bay

1753
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Buccaneers seem like they're really competitive at the top of

1754
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: their organization, like they want it more than anybody. They

1755
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: want to support their guys more than other teams would.

1756
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: In fact, they don't even sell tickets to people who

1757
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: don't cheer for their team. Come on, give me a break, Okay,

1758
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I'm reading here. I know,

1759
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you how they're spinning it to make

1760
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: you think spending it the people who wrote the article

1761
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: the Table of Bay Buccaneers espy. Come on, Jenna Lane, ESPN,

1762
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: she's spinning it is that what you're saying? Yeah, why,

1763
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe her boyfriend works for the Buccaneers.

1764
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm telling your Let me just put

1765
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: my little tin foil hat on. I'm put where is it?

1766
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Give me my tinfoil hat, because it's a conspiration. You

1767
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: can't tell me that the Buccaneers front office is so

1768
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: averse to having one a bunch of fans from other teams,

1769
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: like one other team, the Pittsburgh Steelers or any other team,

1770
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: they're still averse to having other fans in their stadium

1771
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: that they're gonna revoke season tickets because they don't want

1772
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: the money. Seriously, I'm telling you what I read on

1773
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: an ESPN story, which I have no reason to doubt.

1774
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: It's voracity. I assume it's true. I'm giving you the

1775
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: reason of doubt. It's veracity because Jenna Lane's boyfriend works

1776
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: for a Buck. Now I was being I was exaggerating

1777
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: to make a point. There's no way the come on,

1778
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: come on, the Bucks are no more competitive at the

1779
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: top end of their franchise than any other thing. They're

1780
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: not revoking seat. They're not revoking Bob. And you know

1781
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Bill and Barb and their little their season tickets they've

1782
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: had for thirty years and they can't go to the

1783
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Steelers game, so they sold them. Might be true, might

1784
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: be false. It's reporting there. Maybe maybe there's an epidemic

1785
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: down there. They've got like all these thousands upon thousands

1786
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: of people who only buy season tickets so they can

1787
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: sell them. I'm sure there's an enormous a market for

1788
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: home games in Tampa Bay. Tom I was telling you

1789
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: what I read. We're gonna take a break. Josh Allen's

1790
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna join us after practice today. Stick around for that.

1791
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo

1792
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Bow Bills Radio Network Storyingday comes from One

1793
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive with the Buffalo Bills have just wrapped up

1794
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: there Thursday practice as they get set to play the

1795
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins on Sunday in Miami, the first meeting between

1796
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: these two teams this season. They'll do it again a

1797
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: month after Sunday. Buffalo beat the Jacksonville Jaguars last week,

1798
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: posting consecutive wins for the first time the season, trying

1799
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: to make it three in a orrow this season. This week,

1800
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: they'll swept the Dolphins last year for the third time

1801
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,839
Speaker 1: in five seasons. They are seven and three against Miami

1802
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen. Close games two. Each of the last

1803
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: four meetings between these two teams has been decided by

1804
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: eight points or fewer. As far as practice today, the

1805
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,799
Speaker 1: Bills hope to get Charles Clay back in the lineup.

1806
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: He seemed to be practicing in full pads today after

1807
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: being limited yesterday. Guard John Miller not observed at practice today.

1808
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: No post practice report out yet. The Bills maybe getting

1809
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Searles, a free agent signe from late September, maybe

1810
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: getting him ready to jump into the starting lineup at

1811
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: right guard in place of John Miller again. We'll get

1812
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: the post practice injury report later today. Bills Dolphins Sunday,

1813
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 1: one o'clock at hard Rock Stadium in South Florida. Can

1814
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: catch the game right here on our flagship in Buffalo.

1815
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,879
Speaker 1: You g our Sports Radio five fifty. Thursday Night Football

1816
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: gets the NFL weekend started tonight. It's the New Orleans

1817
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 1: Saints ten and one at the Dallas Cowboys. New Orleans

1818
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: has won ten in a row. They lost in Week

1819
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: one to the Buccaneers and havn't lost again. Ten game

1820
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: win streak the longest by any team in a single

1821
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: season since Dallas won eleven in a row two years ago.

1822
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: Eight twenty kickoff tonight at eight and T Stadium in Dallas.

1823
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: The Cowboys home against the New Orleans Saints. Hockey Tonight,

1824
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers start back to back games in Florida.

1825
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: They play in Tampa. Buffalo one point I had of

1826
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in the standings, tied with Toronto for first

1827
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: in the NHL. Savers already beat Tampa back in mid November.

1828
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo going for it's eleventh win in a row, which

1829
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: would set a franchise record. They've already run ten straight

1830
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: for just the third time in franchise history, and with win,

1831
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 1: the Savers would have their first eleven game win streak

1832
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 1: in the NHL since the Columbus Bluejackets won eighteen consecutive

1833
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: in two seventeen. That's an update from One Goal Stripe,

1834
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: John Murphy's Team Tasker, Ready to Go, hour three of

1835
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: the show. We're here in our one Buffalo studio, happy

1836
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Phone lines open eight oh three

1837
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01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: two five fifty, or on Twitter at one Bill's Live.

1839
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Josh am not going to join us momentarily, just coming

1840
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 1: off the practice film with the rest of his teammates.

1841
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: We'll get him in here and talk with him for

1842
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, and I'm looking forward to that.

1843
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: Steve here, I don't think you said josh Aden since

1844
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: well early in the season, right, a couple of weeks

1845
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: into it, maybe in training camp even No, we had

1846
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: him in the regular season the week all yeah, yeah, seriously, yep, yeah,

1847
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Well I don't remember that either. So it's been a while.

1848
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Let's call her from David, Florida. Dave has some thoughts

1849
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: on the Bills on the Dolphins this weekday. Go ahead, good,

1850
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: how you guys doing today? Great? Great? All right? Put

1851
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: a vote in there for Steve Casker for the Hall

1852
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: of Fame. That's how you vote for the Hall of Fame. Okay,

1853
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: another vote for Steve. We're up to eighty eight. See

1854
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: they didn't take that other vote down. I think there's

1855
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: a descript I think that the conversation you guys are

1856
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 1: having is you got to go by the age bracket.

1857
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: You had to take by age group of people. And

1858
01:35:53,960 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 1: we grew up, grew up what No, we grew up

1859
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: watching the Dolphins beat the Bill. Yeah, for ten years.

1860
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned it earlier, and that's why there's a

1861
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: big patreod toward him, and we call them our arrivals. Yeah,

1862
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm here in Florida. Yeah, I mentioned it a little

1863
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 1: bit of a while ago, Dave. Where it kind of

1864
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: is you can see the percentages on the question on

1865
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: Twitter where it's kind of you know Twitter, you kind

1866
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 1: of perceive social media's being for the younger crowd. The

1867
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: younger crowd thinks it's the Patriots. They they hate the

1868
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 1: Patriots because you know, they've watched their teams struggle against

1869
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: them for so long, mostly some of these people for

1870
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: the entire lives. So you kind of get the sense

1871
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: that all the young crowd, the young Bills fans who

1872
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: are just coming up through all this, who grew up

1873
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: during the drought all of that stuff, they kind of

1874
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: hate the Patriots. And then you get into the older

1875
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: crowd and they go back and they look at they

1876
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: look at the Miami Dolphins, and then there's always the

1877
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, the Johnny come lately, the people who are

1878
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: of the moment and saying, listen, it's the Jaguars last year,

1879
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: this year, the Doug Marone thing. That Flinard Fournette is now,

1880
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, the villain here. So there's a little bit

1881
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 1: of that as well. So you can see that I

1882
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you, Dave the caller, that there

1883
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: is an age component too. You know, you're where when

1884
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: you grew up as a Bills fan as to which

1885
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: team you hate the most. I agree, and you know,

1886
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think most people of a

1887
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: certain age And would you make the line at anyone

1888
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: born before eighty I could grab that out of I

1889
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 1: was that was totally arbitrary, that number. But it's you know, yeah,

1890
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: that that puts some you know, sub forty, and that's

1891
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 1: kind of where they're at. You know a lot of

1892
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: them think that it's it's not the same team. It's

1893
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: the people who born before that might be eighty five,

1894
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: though I think of it. Who's the Bill's biggest rival?

1895
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll. Let's check the results on Twitter

1896
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: as people chime in on Twitter, who do you think?

1897
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Who do you like as the Bills biggest rival. They're

1898
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: getting set to play one of the candidates anyway, the

1899
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: Dolphins this week. But fifty three percent of you say

1900
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots are currently the Bill's biggest rival. Twenty four

1901
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 1: percent of you say the Jaguars, sixteen percent say the Dolphins,

1902
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: seven percent say somebody else. And you kind of we

1903
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: we joked about it when Thurmon was here. Who do

1904
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: you think Patriots fans would consider New England's biggest rival?

1905
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: I would say probably Jets, I would know. I'd say

1906
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: they probably think it's like uh uh goes all the

1907
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: way back to Peyton Manning. Probably the the uh Colt Colts,

1908
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: And it might be for them, might be the Pittsburgh Steelers. Um,

1909
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, they've met the Steelers a couple of times

1910
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Maybe the Baltimore Ravens. They've met them

1911
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: in a couple of in a playoff games, you know,

1912
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: So I think yeah, for the Patriots, I think those

1913
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: it's those meaningful games. So they keep they keep kind

1914
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: of rotating through which team gets good and meets them

1915
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Right, So you know, it's interesting to

1916
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: think about. We'll put that back out there to we

1917
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: get it. We'll get a beat writer from Boston. When

1918
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: we play at We'll find out on the tweet sheet.

1919
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: When we asked the question who's currently the Bill's biggest rival,

1920
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: Jason Crandell responds with some interesting thoughts. Who's the Bill's

1921
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: biggest rival currently? Jason Crandell says Patriots, mostly because I

1922
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: hate them more than any other team. History repeats itself.

1923
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: The same thing happened between the Dolphins and the Bills

1924
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies and eighties is about to happen

1925
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: between the Patriots and the Bills. We are about to

1926
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 1: go on a long winning streak against them. Okay, you

1927
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: know it can start any time, it would like, you know,

1928
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: what are you waiting for? I'm just trying to remember.

1929
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 1: And again, I was younger. I wasn't a kid, really,

1930
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: I guess I was a kid in the seventies when

1931
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: the Yeah, it was, when that twenty game Dolphins win

1932
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: streak over the Bills was going on. Did I consider

1933
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: them the biggest right formative years? Yea, as my wonder years.

1934
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: I guess I did think of them as the biggest

1935
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: right it was. It was because back then, in the seventies,

1936
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were still a relatively new franchise three four

1937
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: years old, and I remember thinking early on, like, what

1938
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: the heck is this new team in Miami is going

1939
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: to beat us every year twice a year. And as

1940
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: the decade went on, it was like, yeah, it's the Dolphins.

1941
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: The Bills don't beat the Dolphins. I mean, it was

1942
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: a long stretch. It was ten years. I went to

1943
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: the game. Now the Bills beating him in nineteen eighty.

1944
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: I went to the game in nineteen seventy nine season opener.

1945
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up, you know what? Yeah, with

1946
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: a wide right with Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey. Yeah, how

1947
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: do you know that? Listen? I had guys that were

1948
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: on that team that I played with that five years

1949
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: later in eighty six, six years later, eighty six, and

1950
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 1: they were still talking about it. Opener Bills and Dolphins,

1951
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: September two in nineteen seventy nine. I want to hear

1952
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: my quick story about that. Let's hear. I'm at the game.

1953
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: I think I was. I was. I was in school,

1954
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: still college, law school, and I'm at the game with

1955
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 1: my buddy, who is a basketball coach, John bee Line, right,

1956
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: and I had season tickets. I bought season tickets, and

1957
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: we were sitting almost even Bill's bench side, even with

1958
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: the goal posts. So if you look straight ahead, you see,

1959
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, upright upright, all right. So imagine Tom Dempsey

1960
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: goes out there to win the game and the streak

1961
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, now it was a nine years streak,

1962
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: opening day, beautiful day. The kick goes up. You couldn't

1963
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 1: tell if it was good. Myself and my buddy Bee

1964
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: Line are like, yeah, the streak is over. And then

1965
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: you look at the you know, you couldn't tell if

1966
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: it was wrong. Yeah, that was it was. It was.

1967
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was like, oh they beat him,

1968
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, they didn't. Last play listen And for what

1969
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: I heard from the players on the team said, they

1970
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: did everything right. I mean, they managed the clock, they

1971
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: got down their last play of the game. They even

1972
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: got it on the hash mark they wanted to in

1973
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. They knelt down here and

1974
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: it was a chip shot. I mean, I guess it

1975
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: was a short one, right thirties maybe right, It was

1976
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: like not that, so it is, and he kicks it

1977
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: and that's the shot he had it, Tom Dempsey when

1978
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: he kicks it and he grabs his helmet with both

1979
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: hands and Ben's back over and well one hand. Anyway, Yeah,

1980
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: it was. That was but still when you asked me,

1981
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I still feel that one again. Think about it. And

1982
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 1: during the eighty or seventies, the Dolphins were the Patriots.

1983
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: They were the team that went undefeated and won the

1984
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They went to two straight Super Bowls and

1985
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: one him got to the third one and then got

1986
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,879
Speaker 1: beat So they were they were a dynasty. So everybody

1987
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 1: had the target on the on the Dolphins, and and

1988
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,839
Speaker 1: like a lot of people said, it was a rivalry

1989
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: worn out of the hatred for a team that was

1990
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 1: so successfully against your own team, which is why I

1991
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: think the percentages on our Twitter poll put the Patriots

1992
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. Everybody hates those guys.

1993
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: Here's a call from John and Wheatfield on this question,

1994
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: who's the bills biggest rival? John? What do you think?

1995
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: What do you have? Well, well, I went to my

1996
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: first game in nineteen sixty five. My father took me

1997
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: in and the Bills are playing the Chargers, and the

1998
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: Bills were seven and all at the time, and they

1999
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: lost to the Charges at home, thirty four to three.

2000
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: And what I used to since following the Bills. During

2001
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: that time, before the Miami came in the league, I

2002
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: used to think the Bill's biggest rival was the Jets,

2003
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't consider the Bills Bills a Miami rivalry

2004
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: until the Kelly Marino air when they started going back

2005
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: and forth, because I think when one team dominates the

2006
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: others at really a rivalry, it's more of a domination.

2007
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: So I don't even consider the Bills and the Patriots

2008
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: are robalty because the Bills aren't even in the game.

2009
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: So if they were going back and forth like Marino,

2010
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Marino and Kelly were then in the eighties and the

2011
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: early nineties, I would consider that arrival be right now,

2012
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: I still consider maybe the Bills and the Bills in

2013
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: the Jets. They keep it close, But when one team

2014
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: dominates the other, I just consider this domination, not even arrivals. Well,

2015
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: there's no question that Jim Kelly versus Dan Marino, Don

2016
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Shula versus Marv Levy it was a rivalry, and for

2017
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: good reason. Both those teams were really good. Both of

2018
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: them had aspirations to go to and win a Super Bowl,

2019
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: and they were in the same division and they played

2020
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: twice a year and the games were close, and there

2021
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: was some talking that went on back and forth. You

2022
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 1: remember a lot of people remember the Brian Cox incidents

2023
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: in those games. There was a lot of extracurriculus. And

2024
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: I know that when the Buffalo Bills finally got good

2025
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: under Marv Levy in the late eighties and nineteen eighty eight,

2026
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: when the Bills went well, eighty seven they split with

2027
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and eighty eight they probably I think we

2028
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: swept them. In eighty nine, Don Shula had made public

2029
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: pronouncements about getting back at the Buffalo Bills and saying, listen,

2030
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat and we're gonna you're gon, We're gonna

2031
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,520
Speaker 1: beat him on special teams. We're gonna do all this yigniac.

2032
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 1: And that was the eighty nine opening game seasons when

2033
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly tucked the ball and the last play the

2034
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: game and bowled into the end zone for a t

2035
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: D And that's when it was on. You know, it

2036
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: was on for everybody. So I believe Shula's last game

2037
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 1: was a playoff game in Yeah, and I got a

2038
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: TD in that game, did you really? Yeah? Excellent? So

2039
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: I can't I can't see how a team can call

2040
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: another team of rivalry when they're beating the pants off you. Ever,

2041
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: you know, as much as the pages I have done

2042
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: for the build, I mean like I would consider like

2043
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: like maybe the Cowboys and the Redskins rivalry, or the

2044
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: Giants at Philadelphia rivalry, but not when one team totally

2045
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: dominates another team. I got you. You make a good point.

2046
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for calling, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We're

2047
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: coming to you from our one Buffalo studio. Bills practice

2048
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: is just wrapped up and we are very happy to

2049
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 1: welcome into the studio Buffalo Bill's quarterback John h Allen.

2050
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Josh, Thanks for coming by, Thanks for having me.

2051
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: We haven't. I was just saying to see we had

2052
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: John maybe a month or so ago, right when after

2053
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 1: a couple of games, maybe after the Minnesota win. I

2054
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: think it was, yeah, yeah, so we bring in after

2055
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,560
Speaker 1: another win, congratulations on the win against Make it a

2056
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: weekly thing then, yeah, get you in every week. How

2057
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: are you feeling feeling good? You got the sleeve off,

2058
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: he said, I noticed yesterday in the in the practice thing.

2059
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: He said he thought it looked good. On does it

2060
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: look do the guys give you a trouble about your

2061
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: sporty sleeve. A few of them do a bit of

2062
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson games for me myself. Now I'm just playing.

2063
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: They got a yellow with Michael Jackson got one sleeve,

2064
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: not two sleeves. He had one glove. You have one

2065
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: sleeve something like that. Yeah, there you go. We're with

2066
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen and Josh. I don't know if you

2067
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: saw this on on on TV the other day NFL

2068
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Network Good Morning Football, they presented you an award. Did

2069
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: you see this, the uh the Angry Runs Award. Take

2070
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: a look at this. This is just yesterday, I believe

2071
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. I'm on a rookie quarterback, Tom Baker,

2072
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: not Rosen. I'm talking the big dude had a day

2073
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: against the Jackson jack That's what used to be Watch

2074
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 1: the extracurriculus. I lived for the extra curriculus. To us,

2075
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: we do a little bit of this. And now he's

2076
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna flex on him against the free and seven team

2077
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: and look at the crown. I watched this. He comes

2078
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: over the superstar running back, he does the handshake naked

2079
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 1: in here. We're gonna go thank thank bad. Yeah, Totaly

2080
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 1: my watch ninety nine yards rushing. He decided about six

2081
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: am that morning he was going to run in that

2082
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: play and the celebration. Josh Allen, I told that fires

2083
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: me up. This gets me out of bed in the morning. Josh.

2084
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: If we send you the trophy to Western New York,

2085
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 1: I'll be very happy. There you go, Kyle Brand from

2086
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: NFL Network. He's a big fan, obviously, And Josh, here

2087
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: it is. I'm gonna pass the Angry Runs Award from

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Speaker 1: Good Morning for they sent us the ex trophy. He

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Speaker 1: had hole in his hand. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I gotta read a note that came with its Dearest Josh,

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01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 1: we are beyond enthused who announced that you have joined

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01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: the elite group of players who've been crowned champion of

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01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: Angry Runs for your furious touchdown in week twelve. While

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01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: you're brash an ambraci playing sound maybe looked down upon

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01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: by some, we had Good Morning Football embrace it. You

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Speaker 1: are the newest inductee into the Ring of Anger. Please

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: enjoy this commemorative trophy from Kyle Brand and the fine

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Speaker 1: folks of going Good Morning Football on the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Angrily yours, Good Morning Football, Congratulations Yeah, thank you. That's

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01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 1: a that's a big honor. Um. You know, I don't

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01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: think many quarterbacks win this award and hopefully don't ever

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Speaker 1: have to win this award. And we got a guy

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Speaker 1: who might be able to answer that for you on

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01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: the phone line right now. Kyle was on the line

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Speaker 1: from New York. Hi, Kyle, Welcome to the show, Josh.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy streaming in that clip. This is

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01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: the guy who sent you the award. I am thrilled

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Speaker 1: to welcome you to a fraternity that includes legends like

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Speaker 1: marshn Lynch, Rob Grimes, Houseki Smels, and Gordon. You are

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01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: the first quarterback, Josh, to receive the Angry Run Trophy.

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01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 1: How does this feel? Yeah, it feels great. You know

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Speaker 1: obviously you mentioned those names. I mean some really good

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01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 1: company there. You know, I really appreciate you, you know,

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01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: going on and uh, you know, doing mine and Shady's

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01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: reenacting of our handshake and everything like that. Um, so yeah,

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01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a special one. I'll definitely remember this

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01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,919
Speaker 1: one for sure, Josh. It was an incredible run. Decided

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01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in no matter what. Take me through

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01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: it if you don't mind, because there was a run,

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01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 1: and then there was and then let you especially want

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01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: to hear about the flex. Yeah, so you know I

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01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: went over to coach Dabele and coach McDermott, and we

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01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: were talking about which play we wanted to call, and

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01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: we wanted to call a QB run um you know

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01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: in Dabie McDermott, you know, they thought that the QB

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01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: draw was the best one we had. Uh. You know,

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01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: I looked out. We had a fake little dummy signal

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01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: to try to get that mic move into his right um.

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01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, that d N kind of fell off and

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01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I was able to use my left arm there and

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01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: you know I met forty four at the goal line

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01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: and I was able to just kind of fall fall

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01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: into it. I'll get to the flex and then the flex.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I felt a little strong after that, you know,

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01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: the stiff arm and everything. So, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: played with a lot of personality, and you know, I

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01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: got to get my teammates involved and that was pretty

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01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 1: awesome and the crowd was going crazy. Yeah you could.

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01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this while you were running that

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01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: and I listened to this a couple of different times

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01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: when you stiff armed in Gockway. The crowd roared huge,

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01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: and then when you sidestep Telvin Smith it roared again,

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01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: and then of course when you bowled your way in it,

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01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: there was like three roars in that, and of course

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01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: the third one was the roof came off the entire joint.

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01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 1: Could you feel that, Oh, absolutely absolutely, And that happened

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01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: right after really the block or the missfield goal, and

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Speaker 1: after we kind of turned that momentum around three plays

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01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: later we were down. Obviously the quarter ran out, but

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Speaker 1: that's when we got together and you know, just the

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01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: energy that the crowd brought that game was unbelievable and

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01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 1: it was just exhilarated on this play a little more.

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01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 1: And Jess, I think Kyle Brand wanted to know about

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Speaker 1: the celebration right with Shady tell us about that, what's

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01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: the origin of that? That's something we've been working on.

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01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: After the Jets game, you know, he had a couple

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01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: of touchdowns and I was really bad on the first one.

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01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 1: I was way too early on the celebration. It looked

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Speaker 1: real bad, and so we worked on it and we

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01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 1: got a little time in between it now and we'll

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Speaker 1: probably add something every week or so. Kyle tell me

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Speaker 1: is he the first quarterback to win it? Did you

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Speaker 1: have other quarterbacks when the Angry Runs, you know, early

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Speaker 1: early in the season, Matt ryding on it, but he

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Speaker 1: did not get the trophy because we weren't handing out

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Speaker 1: trophies yet. So Josh is the first trophy. And let

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Speaker 1: me say this, he's got I'm a huge Graniteors. I

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Speaker 1: love the way you play. I think you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a lot of trophies in your career. I want you

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Speaker 1: to take this. I want you to put it on

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Speaker 1: the show. Next to that, I had a Hope Potato

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Speaker 1: Bowl MVP and someday my friend a Lombardi Trophy. I

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Speaker 1: believe in you, man, I'm really happy for you. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really do appreciate that. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: thanks for checking in. Good any time, guys. Kyle Brand,

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Speaker 1: host of Good Morning Football on NFL Network, who just

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Speaker 1: awarded Josh Shannon with the Angry Runs Trophy for this

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Speaker 1: past week. You could win it again. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to run eleven times every game to win it? And

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Speaker 1: are you up for running it that much on a

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Speaker 1: week to week bas whatever helps us get a w

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Speaker 1: obviously about being smart and protecting myself, but you know,

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Speaker 1: whenever my numbers called, to do anything to help the

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Speaker 1: team is what I'm gonna do. You gotta know, though,

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Speaker 1: and I found this out late in my career and

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Speaker 1: you're finding out in your first year. I really carry

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Speaker 1: the ball very much early in my career. When you're

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Speaker 1: holding the ball in live action football, it kind of

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01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: tends to attract violence. Yeah, it does. You notice that, right,

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Speaker 1: So listen, I know you wear every pad you're supposed to.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got enough pads to last fifteen years running

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Speaker 1: for you know, sixteen times a game. Correct, you know

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Speaker 1: you can, I mean you can't. Get listen, treat me

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Speaker 1: like your grandpa's son. I want you to take care

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Speaker 1: of yourself and just you know, make sure that you

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Speaker 1: can line up every week, sir, because like in college,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be academically eligible, it's good to be

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Speaker 1: physically available. So it's good. But you did run. You

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Speaker 1: ran it really well. The forty seven yard run that

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Speaker 1: you made, which really put your numbers up, like made

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Speaker 1: it look like you ran every time you had the

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01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: ball in your hand. That was that was something that

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01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 1: wasn't called No, it was not. It was a pass

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01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: play and I got off to my first reading. My

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01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 1: second reading, UM felt the pocket collapse a little bit

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Speaker 1: and they brought too off the edge. Logan Thomas did

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Speaker 1: a good job of just kind of pushing them both

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01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: out there and laying open up our offensive blinding and

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Speaker 1: a great job. We got some blocks down field. UM

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01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: probably should have went out of bounds right here instead

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01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: of taking another hit, but we got there eventually after

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01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 1: you got taken. The thing that got me what Telvin Smith?

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01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 1: And they got Telvin Smith and Miles Jack the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense. Those two guys are as fast to linebackers

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Speaker 1: they are on the league. And on that run, Telvin

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: Smith took a bad angle. I mean you outran the

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Speaker 1: angle on him, and I think that really says something

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Speaker 1: about you know, you're catching guys by surprise, I think

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01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: with your speed and your athleticism. Yeah, I hope, so

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01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: hopefully you don't catch on. Yeah, You're not going to

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Speaker 1: surprise him forever, but for the time being, hey use it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely big win though, right, I mean it was it

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01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: was huge for our team. Um, this is when we wanted.

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01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Obviously we met them in the in the playoffs last year.

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01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a rivalry, but you know, there's

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01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: a lot of motion in that game, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: the crowd brought it. We came up, we stepped up

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01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: to the play as a as a team, and we

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Speaker 1: played good, complimentary football. One more question about running. I wondered, um,

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate based on your performance last Sunday that

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01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: future opponents might be looking for that, like maybe they

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01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: even assigned a spy to you. You've actually seen some

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: of that already this year, right, Yeah. I mean if

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01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 1: they do that, if they decide not to you know,

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01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: really go split safety and they keep someone on me,

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01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: that that's just gonna open up something in the passing game.

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01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: So um, you know there there, you really can't guard everything.

2238
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: It's a deference. You're gonna have weak points. And um, Jacksonville,

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01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 1: you know they decided to to you know, match three

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Speaker 1: with the mic and left the middle of the field

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01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: open a little bit, and you know, I just found out,

2242
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, there's time to take advantage of it, and

2243
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: we did a good job of doing that. So everybody

2244
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: the big question runs like, you know, they want to

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01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: see how you know much you develop, how much better

2246
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 1: you're playing, How do you feel when you're back there.

2247
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: What's the big difference when you're back there in your

2248
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 1: own mind? What's bet getting better and better for you?

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01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously still allow to improve on. Um, there's

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01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,600
Speaker 1: a few throws that you know got away from you

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01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 1: that game, but I feel like I'm seeing it a

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01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: lot better and helping the help with you know, Da

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01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 1: and Matt and the things that they did on the

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: field and getting through their reads quickly, finding their answers

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01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, getting the ball out and just

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01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: on time. Um, you know I've been doing a better

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01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: job of that. You know, Um, we had zero sacks

2258
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: this last game, and that that starts deal line. But

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01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: you know Da and Matt and helped me through that,

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01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, just as far as timing and routes, getting

2261
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,839
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly, and like I said, finding answers

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01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 1: when answers are needed. So yeah, I owed them a

2263
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: lot of credit too. And I found myself, Josh, during

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01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: your four game stint on the sideline watching you during

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01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: games sometimes and it seemed like you had a pretty

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01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: regular routine. Play would come in, you would look at

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: your wristband, you would watch the play charted, And I

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01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 1: asked Brian dabb about it a week ago and he

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01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 1: said it was all pretty structured. He said, in fact,

2270
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: he would talk to you during games about what was happening,

2271
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: the plays going in and yeah, charting everything, how many

2272
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: touches people were getting. If it was a big play,

2273
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: we can get back to it. I'm watching the corners

2274
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: to see if we can maybe get a double move

2275
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: on someone. So yeah, that's just part of football and

2276
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: part of the progression. I think sometimes. You know, that

2277
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: was necessary for me to sit with Da and get

2278
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: to see how Matt would do it, and like I said,

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01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: chart all the plays and kind of run through the

2280
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: plane in my mind before it actually happened. Somebody said,

2281
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: during practice you would almost mimic the footwork, right, you're

2282
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: staying behind the play and mimic the four work. What

2283
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: did you get out of that? I mean, just staying

2284
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: in a mental reps and then you get to do

2285
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: the mental reps and match along with your feet and

2286
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 1: in turn, you know, when I got back on the field,

2287
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't sore from doing all the drops, but

2288
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, my feet we're still in tune. So that

2289
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: was big. So you're playing they played that Jacksonville Jaguars

2290
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: last week got the They had the number four defense

2291
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: overall the NFL. They were salty bunch out, they were

2292
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: good defense. Now this one you're playing this week, the

2293
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, a division game, a team that you've this

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01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: team plays a lot, you haven't played a many. This

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Speaker 1: is your first time. But it's also the twenty ninth

2296
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 1: ranked defense in the league. So do you feel an

2297
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: extra And I don't want to say, hey, this is

2298
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a great week, is we're gonna do it,

2299
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 1: But it's almost an extra sense of pressure that in

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01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: that this is a place where you got to take

2301
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: advantage of a defense that's struggling. I mean, yeah, it

2302
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: comes down to that. Obviously, it's whoever pence more points

2303
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: on the board than the other. We're looking to win

2304
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 1: a football game. Um, you know, whether it's with seven

2305
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: points or thirty points, whatever it takes. Um, you know,

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01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: this is still a good defense. I don't care what

2307
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: anybody says. They're coached by a really good coach, and

2308
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: you know they've been in this thing for a while.

2309
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: They're five and six now, they're still in the hunt.

2310
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 1: They want to win this one too. They're four and

2311
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 1: one at home. So I mean, we we got a

2312
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 1: lot of work to do on them. Still watching a

2313
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of film. Um. You know, Coach Dabel's gonna have

2314
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: a game plan ready for us, and you know, trusting

2315
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: in what he calls, and we got to go out

2316
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 1: the next few with Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. Um, I

2317
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: wonder as you as you look at this game and

2318
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: look at what's left this season. I thought this last Sunday,

2319
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: you came back to kind of a different lineup than

2320
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: you left, especially in some of the skill positions, especially

2321
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 1: in terms of the speed and younger players. It's a

2322
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 1: different lineup than the one you left back in Houston.

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01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: Kind Of all right, it is, um. You know, I

2324
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't say we've switched much of what we're doing, um,

2325
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: but we're trying to use our tools appropriately. You know.

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01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Coach Babel's done a good job of adjusting and we're

2327
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 1: just trying to find, you know, matchups and you know,

2328
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 1: just trying to run the ball and execute and go

2329
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: out there and just move the ball and put points

2330
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 1: on the board. In the last couple of weeks, you've

2331
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: seen that. Yeah. One of the things about having different

2332
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: guys on the fields there they have different skill sets,

2333
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 1: which opens up different parts of the same playbook that

2334
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: you've been using. It makes you look for different things

2335
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Has that been like noticeable for

2336
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: you when you're dropping backer in practice, when you're dropping back,

2337
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: you see the guys doing different things, and it gives

2338
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: you the ideas maybe to put different things in the

2339
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 1: game plan. Yeah, you know, And like I said, coach

2340
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Dable does a great job of game planning. And it's

2341
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: literally just trying to find out what what our guys are,

2342
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, first good art and what they can do. Um,

2343
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: so we're trying to put them in positions where they

2344
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: can be successful. Um in turn help this offense be successful. So, um,

2345
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, we got a good thing going right now.

2346
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: We got to keep on working hard, continue to execute

2347
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: when we step on the field, Um, you know, protect

2348
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 1: the football, play good, complimentary football. You know, our defense

2349
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: is we've been playing outstanding, you know, and they've kept

2350
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: us in some games this year, and um, you know,

2351
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: they're getting the job done. At the same time, they're

2352
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: going against a good you know, Miami offense, and you

2353
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a good game. I definitely think that,

2354
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: and um, we just gotta go out there and play together. Josh,

2355
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about matchups. You understand you had a ping

2356
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: pong matchup with Hitty yard Row that maybe didn't go

2357
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: the way you wanted it to. You're you're giving me

2358
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: the stink. I hear like I thought. Next question, did

2359
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: Yarborough beat you? Look at here we so some of this.

2360
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: We got a little footage of it. So this is listen.

2361
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 1: And first of all, I'm gonna answer that question. It's

2362
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: not me. I'm not the best ping pound player in

2363
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: the locker room. Neither is Eddie, so don't give him

2364
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 1: as much credit as he deserves. Um or neither once

2365
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Um, there's some good players in there though.

2366
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: Pat DeMarco one, you know, Kyle is probably the best

2367
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 1: that we got in there, and there's some good players.

2368
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm not to that level. Here's the thing that here's

2369
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: the thing a lot of people don't know about. First

2370
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: of all, there's a ping pong table every so often

2371
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: in the in the locker room. But no matter what

2372
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: it is, when you're an NFL locker room he probably

2373
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: you know this too. Even though you're rookie. Everything is

2374
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: a competition. No, absolutely, Like I mean, things that you

2375
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: never thought like bawling up your tape, throwing or all

2376
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: that stuff becomes a competition. And when they put anything

2377
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: that is of a competitive like a ping pong table

2378
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 1: or a dark board or what have you, a cornhole, yeah,

2379
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 1: you set up. I mean, is it's a death match?

2380
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 1: It is, you know, And that's the nature that we're

2381
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to build here is a super competitive um type

2382
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: of culture. And I think that just kind of adds it.

2383
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: And you know, Coach McDermott loves it, loves it because

2384
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: it does add that competitive edge. You know, Guys, after

2385
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: they get done compete on the field, they come in

2386
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: locker room, they're like, all right, let's strap it on

2387
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 1: again and start playing ping pong. And I guess he did.

2388
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: There's some battles in that. You compete all the time

2389
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: every day. Hey, we've been talking to fans and caller

2390
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: city about Bill's rivals. Who's the biggest Bill's rival? I

2391
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 1: understand mister Taster came in and talk to the team today.

2392
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 1: What did he tell you, guys about the Dolphins rivalry,

2393
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: the history of the rivalry. What does that mean to

2394
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: you guys? I'm in a lot, you know. He says

2395
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 1: some things I'll keep in house. Um No, he just

2396
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to let us know that, you know, especially

2397
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: a division game the Miami Dolphins, you know, going way back,

2398
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: knowing the history of what has happened between the Bills

2399
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins in the past year. So, um, you know,

2400
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 1: I appreciated him coming in and saying that to us,

2401
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: and you know, really really helped us. I think we

2402
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 1: kind of understand now, um, you know, and until we

2403
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: get there, we won't know, but at least we kind

2404
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 1: of have an understanding of what's gonna happen. Hey, Josh,

2405
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: thanks for coming in. Congratulations and appreciated well. Thank you, guys.

2406
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Bill's quarterback, joining the sinceudio. Steve and I

2407
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 1: back with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show.

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02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 1: It's good talking to Josh Allen. He always impressed with

2411
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: his approach, Steve, his demeanor and his um. Look. Yes,

2412
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 1: part of the game is saying the right thing, but

2413
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: I think it goes beyond that. I think he believes

2414
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 1: the right thing. He didn't just say it, you know

2415
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, I think in any sense, Yeah,

2416
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:50,839
Speaker 1: I you know, I know. It's it's kind of cliche

2417
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 1: and buffalo here to compare every great quarterback to Jim

2418
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: Kelly and say that's the guy we're looking for in Yadia.

2419
02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 1: The one thing that I done that he does that

2420
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: reminds me of guy of Jim is that when he

2421
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: was out there, When he's out there, he'd like other

2422
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks kind of you can tell they're thinking about stuff,

2423
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 1: they're thinking about big picture stuff, they're all, you know,

2424
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:14,400
Speaker 1: they're kind of above it all in certain ways that

2425
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 1: Jim never was like that. And Josh seems to be listening.

2426
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't care what's going on. I want to win

2427
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: this play. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna try and win

2428
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: this play. I'm gonna do whatever it takes, and whether

2429
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: I have to tuck it and run or make some

2430
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: impossible throw whatever, I'm going to compete right here, right now,

2431
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Let's win this one. And that was a little like that,

2432
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 1: Like Jim, you see all these some other quarterbacks who

2433
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: are you know, just they just want to play quarterback.

2434
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: That their mindset is different. Yeah, And I don't know

2435
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: if I if I'm articulating exactly what I mean, but

2436
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: there is I think a little bit of that that

2437
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: I just want to win. Yeah, you know in him,

2438
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's what personabout Jim when you say that.

2439
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: And I've been trying to articulate this for months now

2440
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen about the most impressive thing to me

2441
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: so far, and he's pretty impressive overall, but the most

2442
02:01:56,600 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: impressive thing about him so far is its competitiveness. I've

2443
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 1: said that to you probably a dozen times this week,

2444
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: this competitive fire, and I think you just articulated exactly

2445
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 1: how it's a play by plaything for him. It's every

2446
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: play he wants to win, he wants you said, See

2447
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 1: the look he gave me when I mentioned about the

2448
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 1: ping pong He's ready, Oh we're gonna talk about me.

2449
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: He was ta bro for beating him in pak ball,

2450
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I like that. I do too. I

2451
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 1: may think I think it's a it's an enormous plus form.

2452
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe you know, maybe I'm reading

2453
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 1: too much into it, but I do see it in

2454
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 1: his play, and I think it's an I think it's

2455
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: a great quality for him to exhibit for, you know,

2456
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:39,800
Speaker 1: for a football team. I've said this to people that

2457
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 1: I've spoken to. I don't know if I've ever said

2458
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: it on the show before, but football is about moment

2459
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: to moment, winning each and every moment. You know you win,

2460
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 1: you win this little you win this release. You know

2461
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 1: you win this release. And I'm gonna try and run

2462
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 1: my route after I win that release and and use

2463
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: that to my advantage. I'm gonna win this and then

2464
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win at the end. I'm gonna win the

2465
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: during the catch, I'm gonna battle for the catch, and

2466
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,120
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna try and get lose. I'm gonna win

2467
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 1: that moment. At the end of it, I'm standing in

2468
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 1: the end zone with a ball in my hand. I

2469
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: got a touchdown because I won each and every moment.

2470
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 1: And that's what football is. You say, it's a week

2471
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 1: to week league, and in a big picture, that's how

2472
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: the sharpest. You got fifty three guys who are trying

2473
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: to do it week to week, and they're trying to

2474
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 1: do it practice to practice, and they're trying to do

2475
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 1: it rep to rep, you know, moment to moment, and

2476
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: that's you know. That's what I see. And when you

2477
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: want to win, you got to do it a little

2478
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 1: bit at a time. And that's I see a lot

2479
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 1: of that in Josh Bill's Dolphins Sunday. Are they the

2480
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: Bill's biggest rivals? Who do you consider Buffalo's biggest rivals?

2481
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this all day, taking phone calls

2482
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: on it. One here from Bill in Tampa, Florida. Hello, Bill,

2483
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us. Hey, guys, hi, um,

2484
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: I just you can you hear me? Yeah? Go ahead?

2485
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: Or ken? Okay, that's trying to tell you that thanks

2486
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: to you, guys, idea yesterday that me and my son

2487
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 1: hopped on a plane yesterday afternoon. How we're sitting out

2488
02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 1: in front of the Tampa Lightning Arena. Oh wow, and

2489
02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. Yeah, thanks to us. We're gonna

2490
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 1: do the dalk or the Tampa game to night, the

2491
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 1: Florida Panther game tomorrow night, and we're doing the Bills

2492
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Oh that's great. That is a great idea.

2493
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: Good for you. That's I wish I wish we were

2494
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 1: with you. Yea, right, that sounds like fun. That's all.

2495
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: How old is your son. My son is twenty and

2496
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: he's friends with John Murphy's note Ben, Oh wow, how's he? No, Ben,

2497
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 1: they went to school, gather to played hockey together. U.

2498
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm the college team. Excellent, awesome, all right, we'll have

2499
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: a blast man bell I got a place for you

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Speaker 1: to get a great sandwich. You got time before face

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Speaker 1: off tonight, writes Deli on Dale Maybury Highway. It's ten

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Speaker 1: minutes ten minutes outside downtown Tampa. Great sandwiches, writes Deli

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Speaker 1: Gourmet House. They call it you line up. They make

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Speaker 1: great Deli sandwiches. Check it out. You're looking for a

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Speaker 1: place for a pregame meal or something. Hello, we are

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Speaker 1: actually right now. We're just kind of hanging at the stadium. Yeah, rights,

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Speaker 1: w R I g HTS right Stelli and Dale Maybury

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Speaker 1: Highway and jump in a ride share and go over there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's really good place. Yeah, thanks for checking in. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks, and have a great weekend. That's also

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great weekend for Hey. Time now for NFL.

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Speaker 1: True and False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New

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Speaker 1: York's artist in Cheefe. How are you ready to go?

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Speaker 1: Steve I am so rich. How about that guy taking

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Speaker 1: our advice? That is, you think he probably had a

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02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 1: planned out? All right? Man? I wish I could do

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02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 1: spur the moment stuff like that. What's wrong with my life?

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02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: I could never say much. I'm going to Tampa and

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Speaker 1: then to Miami. Let's calling you. Hey, you want listen,

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Speaker 1: Let's get a flight, let's go down. I gotta do that,

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Speaker 1: like okay, I won't be in tomorrow. Wow. Uh NFL

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Speaker 1: true and false. This was this showed up on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk. Ben Roethlisberger on the radio two days ago

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02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 1: called out James Washington for a past attempt to pass

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02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 1: that he missed. Roethlisberger says he's earned the right to

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Speaker 1: be able to do that calling out teammates because he's

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Speaker 1: a captain and as long as he's been there, call

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Speaker 1: him out teammates part of being a captain. True. False

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Speaker 1: Steve former NFL player, that's true. That's so tered to elaborate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I listen that that's part of being forget captain,

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02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: that's part of being a quarterback. You call guys out.

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02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 1: The league is notorious for having guys who were not

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02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 1: real friendly on the field when they call guys out.

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02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean they Peyton Manning. I've seen Peyton Manning call

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02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 1: guys out. I mean, he's part of being a quarterback,

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02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 1: he said, captain. It's part of being a quarterback and

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02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: and a team leader doing it on a radio show,

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02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: not doing it to the guy's face and doing who

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02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: says he didn't you know, I mean that's a part

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02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 1: of it. That's okay. And I don't have a problem

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02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 1: with the most guys and me include I didn't mind it.

2542
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 1: You can call me if if I was wrong, I would.

2543
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 1: You gotta be man enough to admit it, known up

2544
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: to it and make it better next time and get

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02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: better from it. So yeah, it's cool, Okay, I'm gonna

2546
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 1: say true as well. I do think it's part of

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02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 1: being a captain. Yeah, maybe not a teammate. Here we

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Speaker 1: go number two NFL true or false. Matt Patricia Lyons

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Speaker 1: coach is right to make the Lions practice outdoors. Yesterday

2550
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: he held an outdoor practice for the Lions. The Troit's

2551
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 1: going to be playing at home indoors on Sunday against

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02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: the Rams, but he made him practice outdoors. He was

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02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 1: asked about it, didn't have much to say about it

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02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:17,919
Speaker 1: is Matt Patricia right to make the Lions practice outdoors,

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02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 1: and I go first. Yeah. True, he's the head coach.

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02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 1: That's his call. If he wants to practice outdoors for

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02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that's his call. Yeah, I'm not going to

2558
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: second guess that. I'd say true, it's absolutely, it's true.

2559
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 1: It's his call, it's his team. He's got a reason

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02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 1: for it, and it's probably a pretty good winning If

2561
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 1: you want to change things in a town that has

2562
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: been you know, has never been very successful in a

2563
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 1: large scale way, and you want to change that culture,

2564
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, you do what you think is right, and

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02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: that's what Matt Patricia's doing. Yeah. Absolutely, that's true. He's

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02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:49,400
Speaker 1: right to do it, all right. NFL True or false

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy, New York's artist in chiefs.

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Speaker 1: The Bills Thursday injury participation report is out. No practice

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02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 1: today for guard John Miller, still with that oblique muscle

2570
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:01,879
Speaker 1: issue and a second straight day he has not practiced.

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02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 1: No practice today for Logan Thomas, not injury related. Kyle

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02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 1: Williams and Lorenzo Alexander both returned to practice today. Limited

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02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: work today for tight end Charles Clay limited for quarterback

2574
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson, who I believe is still in concussion protocol,

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02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 1: limited work today for cornerback tarn Johnson, and limited for

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02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 1: cornerback Offiett Pitts, who's also in protocol right concussion protocol. Yes.

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02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: The interesting note is John Miller now has missed two games.

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02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: As Chris Brown kind of reported, he didn't kind if

2579
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 1: he did report at the top of the show. Bill's

2580
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:35,839
Speaker 1: look to be taken an eye at the Jeremiah Searles,

2581
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 1: five year veterans signed to the roster in late September

2582
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 1: at that right card position many John Miller after Ryan

2583
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 1: Groy finished up the game this past Sunday. That'll be

2584
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on tomorrow. Yeah, all right, great,

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Speaker 1: We're back with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

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02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 1: Presented by Advanced Alarmed providing Western York's homes and businesses

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Speaker 1: with the finance and security in home theater. He preferred

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Speaker 1: Alarment home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. Thurman Thomas

2590
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 1: Hall of famer. Have you heard of him? He was

2591
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: on the show with us today. We asked him the

2592
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 1: question today he was currently the Bill's biggest rival. Here's

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02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 1: what Thurman had to say. I think if you're looking

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02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: at right there, I think it's in Jacksonville Jaguar. I

2595
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 1: think with Jalen Ramsey saying what he said last year,

2596
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Johshon Allen, the playoff game last year, the scuffle of

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02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 1: this year. Hey, you know what, Let's put these teams

2598
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: on the schedule every single year. Yeah, here on out yea. Yeah.

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02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 1: I think that's what you have to do if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at a rivalry, because you know, like Pittsburgh and Baltimore,

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02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: you know that's a heat, a rivalry. We don't have that.

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Speaker 1: We've lost that with the Dolphins. And I can't say

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02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: it's even a rivalry with the Patriot because they beat

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02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 1: us what twenties seven out of thirty times. I ain't

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02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 1: think about what Thurman said that. The problem with that

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02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: is the Jaguars is gonna be playing home games in

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02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 1: London in the near future. Hard to hard to have

2608
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 1: a rivalry with a team that puts tarps over their seats,

2609
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: exactly that idea. Also on the show today, Armando Sugaro

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Speaker 1: from The Miami Harold, longtime beat reporter, down there covers

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02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:18,400
Speaker 1: the NFL and the Dolphins. He was asked the question,

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02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: what do the Bills have with their four wins that

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02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins lack with their five wins. Here's here's his answer.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have something that the Dolphins don't in that

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02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,280
Speaker 1: they've got the hope that a quarterback that they picked

2616
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:39,080
Speaker 1: this year will develop into something great the next Jim

2617
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 1: Kelly maybe, and I know that's that's been a lot, uh,

2618
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: somebody that will head and be the face of the

2619
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 1: franchise and be a guy that other teams will go,

2620
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 1: oh crap, we got to play him this week. The

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02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't have that. The Dolphins have a thirty year

2622
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 1: old guy that they're still trying to make a decision on. Yeah,

2623
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: the Bills have hope. We do have hope. Hope is

2624
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: a good thing. Maybe the best thing. Name that movie

2625
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 1: success is better? Never mind, what is that movie? Shank Oh?

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02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? There you go. Hey. Steve, as we

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, spoke to the Bills in their morning meeting

2628
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: today about the nature of the Bills Dolphins rivalry, the

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02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: history of the Bills Dolphins rivalry, and you let your group,

2630
02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 1: your core group, the five president five presidents know that.

2631
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 1: And you got some interesting responses, right. You asked, Hey,

2632
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 1: what would you tell these guys about the Bills Dolphins rivalry? Right, yeah,

2633
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:34,800
Speaker 1: Thurman Chia and I did this early before I went

2634
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:36,680
Speaker 1: over to the stadium and spoke to the team. I

2635
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: did it early, put it out there early to them,

2636
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 1: and Thurman got back to me and said, hey, how

2637
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 1: they beat the Bills twenty in a row. But the

2638
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 1: hatred was through the fans and it made us that

2639
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 1: players want to beat the heck out of them. It

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02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you said. He didn't say heck, I

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02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 1: didn't do that quick. He said he wanted us, wanted

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02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: us to beat the heck out of him. Bruce Smith,

2643
02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 1: Bruce Chiming, And he said, hey, was Paradise versus the

2644
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: snow Belt. It was Kelly and Marv versus Marino and Shula.

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02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 1: They didn't want to play in Buffalo. We loved playing

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02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 1: in Miami. It was the competition of the best teams

2647
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,120
Speaker 1: in the AFC. That was Bruce Smith. That's a good one. Yeah,

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02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 1: he's right, and it was it was that's a rivalry

2649
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 1: right there. And you relay that to the current Bills

2650
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 1: and then Darryl Tallet also said, Darryl, this is typical DT.

2651
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 1: They start fast, but they don't know how to finish.

2652
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: If you take the fight to them, you will win perfect.

2653
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:28,880
Speaker 1: That's Daryl Tallet. It's great and that's you know, that's

2654
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:31,240
Speaker 1: what those guys you know, they still carry you carry

2655
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 1: it with you. You know the rivalry, and you know

2656
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't wasn't like he didn't respect those guys. In fact,

2657
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot of us. You know, Marino's a friend of

2658
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 1: mine and Jim, Jim and Dan are real close. We

2659
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 1: know that, Bruce too, so but you know, when you

2660
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 1: think back to it, it was really it was really

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02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 1: important to you to win those games, and it was

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02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:50,240
Speaker 1: fun being a part of him. I was gonna say,

2663
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 1: we didn't have time to ask Josh. I was gonna

2664
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 1: say to him, and he's never been through this, but

2665
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking, it feels like there's a lot at

2666
02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 1: stake for the Bills down the stretch here five games

2667
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 1: left right, You could argue that, and you could argue

2668
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,320
Speaker 1: convincingly that they are out of playoff contention. And yet

2669
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 1: when you sit with Josh for some of the other players,

2670
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 1: we've talked to her in the coaching stuff. You feel

2671
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 1: like there's a lot writing on these final five games.

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02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: I feel that, Yeah, even for I think sitting here

2673
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 1: looking at it like that, I think we need to

2674
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:20,320
Speaker 1: look good. We need to look better and better. We

2675
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 1: need to play good to validate this trip that we're

2676
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 1: all on together. That's you know, I want to look

2677
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:31,360
Speaker 1: good doing it, and that's I think it's important. Talk

2678
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 1: more about the Bills on the Dolphins on the show tomorrow.

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02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: Great co Sell will join us, Mark Kelsi will join us,

2680
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander with the lowdown. Make sure you join us

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02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 1: twelve noon tomorrow. Production assistants George Blast, Jeff Colton, Like,

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Speaker 1: Thomas honald Or, Kelly Rude, j j Arito, Kevin Cargis,

2683
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 1: and James Roebel. Our producer Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow

2684
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Speaker 1: at noon. One Bill's Live, presented by Collaida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio