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Speaker 1: What's happens way up with Angela? Ye, and look who's back.

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Speaker 1: A lot has changed since the last time that Joe

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, young Legend, young Boss?

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Speaker 2: Yes, som good, I'm good. I feel good. I feel great. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm actually tired.

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Speaker 1: I've been You've been on the road and you've been

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Speaker 1: taking long flights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you did a tour that started in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Australia, Australia, we did Europe and we've done a

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Speaker 3: And those time zones will kill you too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I feels like two three times.

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Speaker 3: How was Australia? I've never been there.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful. That's actually somewhere I can't decide to go

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Speaker 2: set to down.

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Speaker 1: Wow, are you telling you you would move to Australia?

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Speaker 2: I would. Actually there's one particularity already, like Perth. Like

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Speaker 2: it's just it's not like you're missing out anything as

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Speaker 2: well developed like this fun stuff to do. The weather

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Speaker 2: is nice.

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Speaker 1: I heard the women are beautiful in Australia too. I've

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Speaker 1: definitely heard that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How long is that them?

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Speaker 3: From Legos?

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Speaker 2: Okay from legos. It took us like three flights, so

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Speaker 2: i'd say about two days.

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Speaker 3: That's commitment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so how was it? What did you learn

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Speaker 1: from all this? And the reason I call you young

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Speaker 1: Legend is because you now are on your own label.

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Speaker 3: Yes, young legend, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And you're only what twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Now twenty eight?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just clip twenty like how many days ago?

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Speaker 2: Like ten days ago?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What, happy birthday?

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Let me see what sign is that?

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Speaker 2: Gemini? Oh? Yeah, white people always give me that when

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Speaker 2: I say I'm Germinine.

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Speaker 1: Like Gemini for being like multiple personalities is that bad thing?

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't even say multiple personality. I think we

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Speaker 2: just mirror, mirror mirror, based on kind of energy we

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Speaker 1: Okay, I will say this. There's like good geminis.

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Speaker 3: And evil ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm the good one.

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Speaker 3: You're the good one hopefully okay, innocent.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so talk to me about what that's like

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Speaker 1: for you now, just being your own boss but also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd see, I'd see. It's really like brought out

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Speaker 2: a different level of discipline for me because now I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, like it's not just about me anymore, like

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Speaker 2: more sense of responsibility. So I don't see that as

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Speaker 2: even the bad thing. I think it's definitely helped me

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Speaker 2: Like I'm reading books now, I'm doing accounts, like, so

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: How many artists do you have? Science?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so right now we have just one person that

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Speaker 2: we're working with. His name is King Vidar. I was very,

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Speaker 3: How did you find it?

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Speaker 2: I mentioned through one of my closest producers, bits back

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Speaker 2: Kill was about four years ago. I was about four

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Speaker 2: story and like you let's work together. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is a little scary too when you have

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Speaker 3: Somebody who knows what you're going through. It can open up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was also signed to an artist, it's easy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the game. And yeah, I think it just gives you

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because even when your career took off, you

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Speaker 2: Definitely, because now now I'm not understanding the importance of

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Speaker 2: the course I studied that studied industrial relations and personal management.

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Speaker 2: So now I know to like talk to people, deal

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Speaker 3: Like I finish school, Made Everybody twenty.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen and Baby drops and the first Victor single drop Down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's crazy because even it's interesting when people put

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Speaker 1: Usually people are like constantly, was that the first Like,

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Speaker 2: Then I had one song with mister Easy Faji. Then

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Speaker 1: How do you think that development was like for you?

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Speaker 1: Because before a baby came out and then being signed

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Speaker 1: And its pain off because it's something that you love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely yo. Like the reason I start making

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Speaker 1: I've seen you even say with the video for Baby,

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Speaker 3: You gotta let people see what you look like.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a big unveiled too, because I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: But she's black, And sometimes people categorize you based off

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Speaker 1: if people could just hear the music, it shouldn't even matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely, And I'm happy that people like got

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Speaker 2: it just really helps you like clearly really cool fans

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Speaker 3: But the ladies do like you, So that's a class.

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Speaker 3: How have you been dealing with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen the new album Viva la Vida sounds

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Speaker 1: like you're having a good time. Viva Lavida means kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, living life, giving free, And that's the space because

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Speaker 1: Even thinking about like you start the song off with innocent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I try to like be observant of like

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Speaker 2: So I just like to see things from an action

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Speaker 3: At least at least I can more intentions or.

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Speaker 2: Intentions, but we keep it going as it goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what for you, what are your like when you

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Speaker 1: think about what you want when it comes to not

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Speaker 3: What are the things that you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: I'd see somebody that just understands the kind of person

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Speaker 2: I am. Somebody that also like wants more for themselves

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Speaker 2: so we can also like push each other. And somebody

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Speaker 2: And and so I'd say I don't really really have

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Speaker 2: like the speck, I don't have spec if our energies aligned.

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting to me because even you just

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Speaker 1: you know, Streets are Lonely. That's another song that's on

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Speaker 1: the project that People, and I really like that song too.

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Speaker 1: So where did that come from and what was your mindset?

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Speaker 3: No, I just want to I need that crazy what's

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Speaker 2: No, it was all that way around. Like sometimes they

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Speaker 2: Lucia is vibes, vibes. I really enjoyed that. The weather,

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be dope. Yea, So Viva la Veda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, visualize that there's a lyric videos like forty to

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Speaker 1: And so that's something that is a unicorn in itself.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely no, I think I think that's a slippery slope.

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Speaker 2: as like it's like a story, like a story, you

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Speaker 3: What would you say is your baby on this album?

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Speaker 2: because I'd say, I'd say I've not done that Temple

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Speaker 2: So shout out to Temple Temples. Temple is producer, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And whenever I would started to create something, there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was actually but it was actually the

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Speaker 2: He sent me the instrumental, like you, Joe, let's do

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Speaker 3: You felt like being a boss.

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Speaker 2: Like everybody, like everybody goes through some stuff Like I

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, everybody, And everybody sat there and had a

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Speaker 1: I've had literal cab drivers like talk to me about

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Speaker 1: He was telling me all his business like, and I

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Speaker 3: And who has no idea who you are exactly.

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Speaker 2: Just makes you more honest. Yeah I'm more expressive.

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Speaker 3: Yah, So yeah, cause who can you talk to now?

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes you also have to think, like I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, And it just feels good to just

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Speaker 1: Now, there's also some very I would say as far

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Speaker 1: as this album, we know you have a background in

446
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,840
Speaker 1: church and everything, and you never let you always make

447
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: sure that's something that you pay a mass to as well,

448
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 1: like on a song like hey father, can you talk

449
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 1: about that and why that is so important to you

450
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 1: for people who are listening, because I feel like you always,

451
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,719
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, you still are who you are.

452
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 3: You're not trying to like adjust to you know, being.

453
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Speaker 2: Lit or yeah yeah yeah wild yeah. So like I say,

454
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,919
Speaker 2: I decided I've decided to like.

455
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Speaker 3: Today too.

456
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah. So for me, I say,

457
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: God has always been like a very important factor in

458
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Speaker 2: my life. Like whenever I'm going through stuff, I just

459
00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,840
Speaker 2: pray on my mind. I get clarity and calmer, you know,

460
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 2: Like there's a situation I'm going to and I feel

461
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 2: like I'm overwhelmed. When I pray, I feel better, you know,

462
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 2: And I just really like it makes me. I'm just

463
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Speaker 2: happy that I go exposed to that, to that part

464
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: of spirituality. Shout to my parents, out to my family.

465
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: And it's really helped because because in this industry is

466
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 2: very very vulatile, it can get very very intense and

467
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 2: you look to different vices to just like overcome me,

468
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 2: like drugs and all of that. And I say, drugs

469
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 2: just slippery slope. It's not something I won't ever want

470
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Speaker 2: to get into. And I'd say being spiritual and praying

471
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 2: helps me like not focus on those other aspects because

472
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's the industry get exposed to so much.

473
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,120
Speaker 2: You get exposed to so much, and you're going through

474
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 2: something you might just want to just you know, just

475
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 2: like get lead. So I can't forget about my emotions

476
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: and feelings. But for me, praying and just like being

477
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 2: spiritual really helps me just like overcome that. And that's

478
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: why God will always be an important factor in my life.

479
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: And like I said, I like to make music about

480
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 2: things that I believe in, and so every album, every project,

481
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,479
Speaker 2: I always have to talk about God on like one

482
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Speaker 2: or two songs.

483
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the fact, because even the song sip, it's

484
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of like you're you're not just having a sip,

485
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: but you're awesome like talking analyzing.

486
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lord, save me, don't I lost my conscience, like

487
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: you know, like I just like I don't want to.

488
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 2: I always say that I'm going to finish this game,

489
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 2: like this game of music or this carrier with my

490
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: soul intact. I'm not going to end my career and

491
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to retire and now be damage or

492
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: something because of our all the industry can be. I've

493
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 2: always said that when I love that, I always made

494
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 2: a promise to myself before I started making music, like

495
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Speaker 2: like I'm not going to lose my soul to this

496
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 2: because I've seen I see so many people like at

497
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Speaker 2: the end of the day when they're doing all they

498
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: said and don't like they're not happy. Even with all

499
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: the money, all the fame and all that, they're still

500
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: not happy. They just they still don't feel fulfilled. I'm like, no,

501
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Speaker 2: that's not going to be me.

502
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Speaker 3: Man.

503
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Speaker 1: Listen, we every day covering this Diddy trial. Do you

504
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Speaker 1: Is that like a big type of a conversation internationally? Yeah, yeah,

505
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: it's everywhere they talk about it.

506
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Speaker 2: No, No know that news is that news is everywhere,

507
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: Like as long as you're involved in the entertainment scenes everywhere.

508
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: That's a good warning right there. Like when you see

509
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Speaker 3: something like that.

510
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 1: And you like whatever, regardless of whatever happened. I can

511
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: never see like Joe Boyce.

512
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: Showing up to that's not that can't be me, you know.

513
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: Like I said, like I don't feel like I'm missing

514
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: out on anything. If I go somewhere, I feel like

515
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: the energy is off. I'm out.

516
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: So what is fun for you?

517
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: Fun for me? Yo? Fun for me is like eye

518
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: energy stuff like I love like stuff that makes my

519
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: heart jump, skydiving, sky diving, bungee jumping, chara gliding, jet skiing,

520
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: That's my kind of stuff. Like I could travel like

521
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: the long time we went to Surya, went to sura

522
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Speaker 2: and and we just decided going to the jungle.

523
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Speaker 1: Wow, like like an a doulte like to experience all

524
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Speaker 1: of those things.

525
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. Those are things I love to do

526
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: and I love to read a lot to I read

527
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: every day.

528
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Speaker 1: Ready, What are your favorite types of books? I love

529
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: like autobiographies and biographies the most.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so for me right now is biographies of like

531
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: like very very powerful and famous people that I really

532
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: really like just want to know your story?

533
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: Does it make you think about telling your own story?

534
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: Like one day you're going to put.

535
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Speaker 2: Something I'm going to do that. I'm just like making

536
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: sure I'm keeping everything down so that I can always

537
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: go back. And that's why I also I also decide

538
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: to not do jokes, so I want to remember everything.

539
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't want things to be a blur. I want

540
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: to remember every single thing. When I'm like sixty seventy,

541
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: I can talk about what into me like forty years back.

542
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: He can so nose shrooms or nothing.

543
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Speaker 2: Nothing nothing. Worst case is like just.

544
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Speaker 1: Some wine it, you know, me, just on a simple

545
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: little wine, have a good time. I feel you on

546
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: that because it's also scary. You don't know if you'll

547
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Speaker 1: try something.

548
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to find out.

549
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Speaker 3: Right, Listen, they raised you right at home.

550
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Speaker 2: I want to tell you shout out to my parents

551
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: for sure.

552
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Speaker 1: All Right, So when you think about this new label,

553
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, that's a big responsibility. So

554
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Speaker 1: what is the goal, Like what do you see happening

555
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: with young legend? Because again, people will tell you, like

556
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: the music business is a tough one to break into.

557
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: And it's not just the music that makes money now, right,

558
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: it's also you've got to figure out other streams of income.

559
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 3: So how is your business structured?

560
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so for me, I I like my business manager,

561
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 2: have like my team that owns the day to day

562
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: of everything, so like there's not too much pressure on

563
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: me to show up every day sometimes because there's people

564
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: that just different stuff. So there's a structure. So for

565
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: label Young Legend, I wanted to be like, like, the

566
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: plan is for it to be a very very big

567
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: entertainment label that not just focuses on music, definitely going

568
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: to delve into like movies, into festivals, into parties, into

569
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: like different events that I just like that just revolves

570
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: around entertainment, so it's not just the music. And I'm

571
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: already putting steps in place to make that, to make

572
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: that like to make that happen, you know. And i'd

573
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Speaker 2: say Young Legends like my ten year twenty year projects,

574
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: you know, like, and I'm just happy I'm starting really

575
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: really young and we're just building gradually gradually. It's not

576
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: something I'm not delusion. I'm not going to say, well

577
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm delusional. Sometimes it works, yeah, but I'm not just

578
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna say, oh, I want your learn to be the

579
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: biggest labeled tomorrow or next year.

580
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be tomorrow.

581
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you never know. Yeah, you know, you

582
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: never know. So for me, I just like I like

583
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: to like, what are things like creating and building like

584
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: a strong for relation to be able to carry whatever

585
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: like moments or wins that we have and we can't

586
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: extend it and make the legacy. So that's so I'm

587
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: just making sure I'm doing the groundwork. Now, I'm learning,

588
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm reading books, I'm taking advice from people I see

589
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: as mentors and just building from there.

590
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Speaker 3: So it's been the biggest challenge.

591
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Speaker 2: You think the biggest challenge is let me see, let

592
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: me see, let me see being able to What was

593
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: our biggest challenge? Yeah, to keep evolving. Yeah, that's the question. Yeah,

594
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: because the game is so I think one of the

595
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: biggest challenges is being like being ahead of the cove,

596
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: making sure I head of the cove because it's like,

597
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: oh this thing. You know, there was points where all

598
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: you have to do is like push your music on DSP's.

599
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: Now he went to TikTok. Now TikTok is not really

600
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: working like we used to. Now everybody's looking for the

601
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: next means and markets, and so it's just about like

602
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: learning and looking for patterns that we can used to

603
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: grow to say, yeah, evolving for sure.

604
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: All right, well listen, best of luck to you with everything,

605
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: and congratulations on an amazing album to thank you.

606
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, you know, and.

607
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Speaker 1: I always appreciate you for coming through because having me. Yeah,

608
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: I know you're busy.

609
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: I know you've been on to it.

610
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I know you had shows last night. What what's coming

611
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: up next? Like immediately?

612
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so in two days for traveling back to the UK.

613
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I have a show in Manchester on the fifth on

614
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: the seventh, on the seventh of June, and then we

615
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: have London. Yeah, that's the next two days, next two days.

616
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Speaker 2: Then we going to Canada.

617
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Speaker 3: After Oh wow, you're not stuff stuff.

618
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Speaker 2: I'm still on the roof for like two more months.

619
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Speaker 3: All right.

620
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming by every single time.

621
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Speaker 1: And and your new artists are ready.

622
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring them and I'll bring them in you know,

623
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: let me know we would love to. Yeah, thank you

624
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: so much for having me.

625
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: All right, Joe Boy, thank you.

626
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Speaker 2: Wall Up