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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one, and

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Speaker 1: today on the show, we're joined by white Tail Properties

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Speaker 1: land specialist and renowned deer hunter Gabe A. Dare, and

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Speaker 1: we're chatting with him about how he killed his biggest

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Speaker 1: buck ever this year and his tactics for late season hunting.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by sit Ki Gear, and today we've got

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Speaker 1: a great show for you as we're gonna be joined

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Speaker 1: here shortly by Gabe A. Dare. And Gabe is a

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Speaker 1: land specialist for white Tail Properties and he's been he's

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Speaker 1: been a long time member of that team. If you

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Speaker 1: follow their TV show or just the white Tail Properties,

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Speaker 1: you know, real estate and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: you've likely seen his name around a lot. Because on

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Speaker 1: top of all that, he's just one of the most

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Speaker 1: consistent and renowned big buck killers out there in the country.

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Speaker 1: So um coming up here shortly, we're gonna chat with

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Speaker 1: him a bit about his two thousand seventeen seasons so far,

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Speaker 1: how he killed his biggest buck to date, and spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: is a two hundred plus inch buck. It's like two

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Speaker 1: hundred and a lot plus. So we're gonna dive into

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Speaker 1: that and spent a lot of time talking about his

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Speaker 1: tactics and philosophies for hunting the late season. So we're

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Speaker 1: talking about what's coming up here in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: But that's our agenda. But before we do that, I'm

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Speaker 1: very pleased to say that we are back this week

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Speaker 1: with our pregame show featuring my good buddy, the nine fingered,

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Speaker 1: big bearded hammer dropping Dan Johnson. I'm good, but you

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Speaker 1: set me up for failure every time you throw one

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Speaker 1: of those intros out. It's like whenever whatever. People see

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Speaker 1: a picture of me, they just look at me like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that guy looks like a huge pussy. He's big. All right.

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Speaker 1: It's been too long since we got to chat together here,

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Speaker 1: I know, man, Just crazy crazy schedules. Yeah, not slately,

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Speaker 1: I apologize, And it's not really like just you've been

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Speaker 1: doing on a crazy schedule and I've been on a

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Speaker 1: crazy schedule. It's just this time of year. Man, it's crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a challenge to line everything up between us

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Speaker 1: I don't know about what I think I know, Um,

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Speaker 1: but I've been on a little break from hunting just

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Speaker 1: still today I've finally hunted for the first time in

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Speaker 1: ten days. Um. But how about you? Have you been

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Speaker 1: what was it last Sunday or the Sunday before last

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Speaker 1: would have been Yeah, it would have been two sundays ago. Good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know Ben Harshein from hunter maps Man, he's a

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Speaker 1: jokes and you know, finally we saw some deer, and

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Speaker 1: And uh, it was just fun. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: Like I wanted to throw her in time out, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: well we were giving you some crap, but um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Further was on and I told him about my

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Speaker 1: latest exploits with holy Field. Um. But long story short,

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Speaker 1: UM did a podcast and we went squid jigging, which

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Yeah. So so what does squid jigging entail? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dare welcome the show? Gabe? Yeah, I appreciate you have me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been like for you. Um. Yeah, So I've got I'm

428
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: a sales agent for him. UM. Simple that I work

429
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: in south central Iowa. I'm the last so grown up there,

430
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: which I think he goes hand in hand with the

431
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: real estate and hunting. You know, I grew up in

432
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: this type of hunting environment my whole life. Um. So

433
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: when it turned into more of a business, you know,

434
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: it's already something I've lived so um, very fortunate for that. Um.

435
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: But I've got, like I said, Um, i share a

436
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: territory with Derrek grimsdrewd We work south central Iowa. Um.

437
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: You know. And and it's about it. They know them

438
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: since day one, kind of helped them build it up,

439
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: knew about it when it was the idea on a napkin,

440
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: so to speak. Well, it's gonna be kind of amazing

441
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: for you to see what it has become now. Isn't it.

442
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's from going to Napkin Stage to uh,

443
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, such a leader in the space now. Yeah, No,

444
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's grown really fast. We've got tons of

445
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, really good guys on the team. Um, and

446
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I think it's balanced. You know, we've got the right

447
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: owners and the right people in the right places. Um.

448
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're not all exactly the same. And it

449
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, some guy's strengths, you know, pick

450
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: up for other guys weaknesses, so to speak. And so

451
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just a great balance. Got a really

452
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: smart business crew. Um. Yeah, it's blown up and it

453
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: went really fast. And when I got in real estated

454
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised by you know, I've been self

455
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: employing my whole life. I got out of high school

456
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: and started a construction business and did that and kind

457
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: of started guiding and you know through my twenties and

458
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, love the outdoors, and you know, it kind

459
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: of worked out because I had a bunch of guys

460
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: working for me and I could leave in the fall,

461
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: in the winter and kind of do what I love

462
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: to do is a side job, so to speak. And

463
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: then and then the whole you know, the whole real

464
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: estate ball started rolling, and I went and got my

465
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: license before we were even a company, and kind of

466
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: got my feet wet, so to speak. Um, you know,

467
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of work, kind of getting

468
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: getting my toe into the water and uh, and just

469
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: took on, you know, and it really quickly. I knew that,

470
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, with the team we had and what we

471
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: were doing was you know, I knew this guy was

472
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: a limit. Yeah. Now as I understand it, I don't

473
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: know the details of it, but I believe you own

474
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: some you do own some deer hunting ground of your own,

475
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: and we get a lot of questions about how to

476
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: get started with that, you know, how can I get

477
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: my first property, especially for guys that maybe don't have

478
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: a ton of expendable income but they want to start somewhere.

479
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend your whole time talking about this,

480
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: but do you have any quick tips off the get

481
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: go for people that want to explore that options someday

482
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: to become a property owner. Yeah, it's it's like anything,

483
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, the big ones, just that down pain that

484
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: that first year, you know, so you've got to be

485
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: able to you know, save ups in cash. You gotta

486
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: get yourself in the position. But you at the same

487
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: time start small. You know, start out with something. You know,

488
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: um improve it, you know, document it, do all the

489
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: little necessity so to speak, to make it a better

490
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: hunting farm. And you know, and for the multipart rights.

491
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: I'm from land, you know, appreciates pretty well. I mean

492
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: there's some spots in the road where she went flat line.

493
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: But you know, if you get into one, do some work, UM,

494
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: give it a few years, it's gonna appreciate, roll that

495
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: thing into a little bit bigger, and so on and

496
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: so forth. I've got a lot of clients that started

497
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: out with twenties and forties and you know, four or

498
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: five six huntred contracts now. So it's doable. You know,

499
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: I got a lot of guys that got average jobs

500
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: and don't have millions in the banks, so to speak.

501
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: But it's like anything, if you really want to do it,

502
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: if you're passionate about it, you know, you work hard

503
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: at it and it'll come around. Yeah. That's that's the

504
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: truth that, like you said, just about anything in life,

505
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: so put your mind is something you can make it happen.

506
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: So speaking to speaking of making things happen. Um, from

507
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: what I've seen from the outside, it looks like you've

508
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: had a really good two thousand and seventeen season. I

509
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: think I saw If I'm wrong, but I think I

510
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: saw that you killed your biggest buck to date. Is

511
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: that true? Yeah? I got lucky this year. Man. It

512
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: was a good one. Um, it was. It was a

513
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: big non tiftical that we passed last year as a

514
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: four year old, and it just all lined up. And

515
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: it's a long story. Yeah, I mean, I'm more nappy

516
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but it lined up and and uh,

517
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, we dug in on and real hard. Once

518
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: we got him in the area of the farm we

519
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: wanted him and we expected him to get into and

520
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: we just borrowed in like a tick and and got

521
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: him killed. It took about a week, you know, from

522
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: from what we really got after him to killing it

523
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: took about a week. And we we played the edges

524
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: and we were smart, but you know, we dug into

525
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: that farm. I didn't go anywhere else. I had zero

526
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: interest and hunting. We're looking at anything other than him.

527
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: We dug in and it all worked out in together,

528
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: you know, just uh, an awesome hound gotta got a

529
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: good pre role, come out fed the food plot bumps

530
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: some does you know past you know, a couple of

531
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: forty five yard shots which I had no intention to

532
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: take in and ended up at thirty And we got

533
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: a good hit on him and he didn't get out

534
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: of food plots. So it was awesome. That is awesome. Now,

535
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I like long stories, So can

536
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: you give us the full detailed kind of saga of

537
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: this buck how it went from passing him last year

538
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: to your plan coming into this year, and how it

539
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: all kind of worked out in detail? Yeah? No, absolutely.

540
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Um So last year he showed up on the farm

541
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: late November. Um, couldn't I've gotten in my later years

542
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: the last few years, I'm not as good about keeping

543
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: some of the pictures I probably should. I deal with

544
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: such a high volume, and then I'm starting to I

545
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: don't know, don't I call a snob, but I'm getting

546
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: to wors sometimes I'll maybe not save some of the

547
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: stuff that I should. Well, anyways, last year we went

548
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: back here. You know, when he showed up, I started digging.

549
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't place him. Um, I knew he wasn't a

550
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: five year old You know, it was one of those

551
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: year I was he was a four year old UM

552
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: and he showed up I'm gonna say November eighteen twentieth

553
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: right there when we started getting pictures of him, immediately

554
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: decided to pass the news on the farm. He spent

555
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the year there. You know, he was

556
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: there all fall, all winter after that. UM never did

557
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: find his sheds. And I'm not a big shed guy,

558
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't spend a lot of time. I

559
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: got other stuff like doing the spring was going. Never

560
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: got his shed, but he was in there all when

561
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: we knew that. So and in that in that part

562
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: of the farm has got some really good betting and

563
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of going to that deer do gravitate. So

564
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: this year, you know, he was on the radar, so

565
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, but I was worried he was gonna show

566
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: up later November like last year. Last year, he had

567
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: UM a nice standpoint frame, good mask, good time length,

568
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: and he had to he had a G two and

569
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: G three on his uh right side that we're deep

570
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: four like deep porch is in common base. I mean

571
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: they were big deep for you know. So he had

572
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of really big split times

573
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: there and uh, you know, we got this thing could

574
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: really be something cool next year. Well, this year rolls

575
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: around saying, get we didn't get any pictures of them.

576
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to. You know, you hope too, but

577
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: we're not expecting to. Um. We finally laid eyeballs on him,

578
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of glass, and we finally

579
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: got eyeballs on him. And then once we've seen him,

580
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: and I wanted to say, I was around November one.

581
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: He was really close. And so now my wheels returned,

582
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I wonder if last year, maybe you know,

583
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: he was in here earlier, and I you know, realized, well,

584
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: sure enough, we got the right wind to check a

585
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: couple of cameras on the third and he had already

586
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: been in there. And so immediately, you know, once we

587
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: got the new pictures, you know, we've already seen him,

588
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: so we knew what he had done, not with detail,

589
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: but we do he was bid. When I was figuring

590
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: he was a two hundred innch animal, um, you know,

591
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: right in And so once we started getting pictures of him,

592
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: it was a lot easier to really start critiquing and

593
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: digging and looking, and we knew he was really good.

594
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Um didn't realize that he was as good as what

595
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: he actually is, but we knew he was two hundred

596
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: plus and and so we got after it. Um the

597
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: first the first night, the night we pulled the cameras

598
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: and got pictures of and then next morning my first move, Um,

599
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: we went and jumped in the set that was on

600
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: the edge of betting. Wasn't in the thick betting, but

601
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: it was on the edge. We had the right wind,

602
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: it was easy to get into. Hadn't been in that

603
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: stand all year. I got him be twoint of five years.

604
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: So my first move was like you know, moved upon

605
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: up one step and foom, he was the first year

606
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: we've seen that morning. Um, he come up the crick

607
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: bottom really fixed uff and he got to a point

608
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: where nada scrape. And I thought, Okay, if he keeps

609
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: coming up as crick he's gonna be right in the

610
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: power out you know, anywhere from a twenty to forty

611
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: yards shot. If he he turns to his right, it's

612
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be good. Hey, he's gonna be I mean

613
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: exactly dead down wind of us and you know, fifty

614
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: yards once he makes that direction and two. There's just

615
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: no shooting lens there. It's all hedge and nasty and

616
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: it's just thick. And so sure enough, he goes the

617
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: wrong way. And I'm a big ozonics guy, um you know,

618
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: we've ran him for years. I swear by him. Um. Well, anyway,

619
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: he gets to directly down wind at thirty forty yards

620
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: and he does what most of all do your do

621
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: when you're using them correct lazy stops kind of looks

622
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: over in our direction and you can see that, you know,

623
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: like always they know something there. He's kind of looking around,

624
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: trying to feel things out. And as you know, I

625
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: thought that here's our moment of truth. Ensure enough, you know,

626
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of sitting there look in our direction,

627
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: he flickers his tail, starts walking, goes right on through them,

628
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: like perfect, Okay. When that happens to yeah, at that point,

629
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we just dodged the bullet. We're good.

630
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: You know. Now out I needed to make a move,

631
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere to get a shot. So he comes

632
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: down this trail. I knew at one point if he

633
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: pops out of this trail to kind of heeps it

634
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: out of the brush and go up into the field.

635
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: I knew right when he hit that other that other trail,

636
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: that was gonna be my shot twenty five yards. And

637
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: so I'm at full draw along before he gets there,

638
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: and I'm tippy toning up and down out and rubbing

639
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the tree. And later on looking at the camera, it's

640
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of funny because I was all over trying to

641
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: just find a hole and there and there wasn't so

642
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: and so I I let him go. I didn't even

643
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't about to force it. You know, this animal,

644
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: I I knew once he got in here, his days

645
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: we're probably numbered with me. Um. So I wasn't gonna

646
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: push it. I wasn't gonna take a chance. Um. You know.

647
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get in with a boat, of course,

648
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna push it. So we let him

649
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: walk and uh, and he went right up into the main, Betty,

650
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: and he was headed in the same direction of all

651
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: the food sources and food plucks. And I thought I

652
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: killed him on that food pluck. Tonight, I know I can,

653
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: but the wind was dead wrong. When I say dead wrong,

654
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: like dead wrong, and then we can't get in, you know.

655
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: And that's what worried me. Is you know, once I

656
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: get into a blinder stand, I'll push the limits anymore

657
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: because of our seeing control. And it was Onyx and

658
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: I really will. I'm pretty pretty ballsy when it comes

659
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: to making a push on a big deer. But we

660
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: couldn't get in. I mean, there's just no way to

661
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: even get there, you know. I mean so which I've

662
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: walked to those NICs in my head before, but I

663
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna thirty. He wasn't gonna push this too early.

664
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: So the next day we slipped in there wind turns around,

665
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: we slipped into that food and plot pull the camera

666
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty yards in front of blind it like four or fifty,

667
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean tons of daylight left. There's just point right

668
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: front in front of the ground life. So you know

669
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: now now you know, I know he's in my wheelhouse

670
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: and I'm worried. You know, he he didn't have a

671
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: dough at this point. I'm worried. You know, man, he's

672
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna get dough here and it's getting you know, it's right,

673
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: he's moving a lot to find one. Well that next morning, um,

674
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: we didn't hunt, you know, I didn't want it that

675
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: we'll closh it the window isn't right, and I'm big

676
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: on that. I'll I'll take my shots. I'll be patient,

677
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and I don't really go to glass something then to

678
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: go for some a move. And so you know, we

679
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: that next morning we did a little drive around shure

680
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: En else he's with a doll, um you know, so

681
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: we uh, we basically held off. You know, at that point,

682
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna get a little cover because

683
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: he'd gotten with a doll and so you know, we

684
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: browed into the food. I thought, you know, at this point,

685
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: I hope she dragged into the food or he breaks

686
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: loose and uh, you know, they end up on this

687
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: food source. So we literally dug in, and I mean

688
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: dug in. We were leaving all of our equipment, all

689
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: of our bows are you going? We took out with

690
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: batteries and and so we we were able to get

691
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: in and out of this food source. Um literally with

692
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: deer in the field getting in during the field getting out, um,

693
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, multiple days in a row about ever getting

694
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: any sort of you know, busted. How do you how

695
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: do you think you're able to do that? Which is

696
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: just because you had planned out great access and entry

697
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: routes already or were you doing something different now that

698
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: that was pretty content. I mean when I get these

699
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: big year, I started making plans for next year this,

700
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, and so and so we were lucky enough

701
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: to have corn on the farm, and you with corn,

702
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: you know these ground blinds. I mean we can just

703
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: walk down rows. I'll even going with machette and we'll

704
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: just trim back maybe one road to give us extra room.

705
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: And and you can get right up in the back

706
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: of them blinds, you know. And it's funny because I

707
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: knew cameraman this year, and I don't think he'd ever

708
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: experienced I like, but you know, we can get in,

709
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: we can get out, you know, you wait till good

710
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: and the dark. There can be thirty deer in the field,

711
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: and you know some of them are only twenty arts.

712
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't get out. And it's kind of

713
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: funny if you get away from the blind you start

714
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: walking down the trail and you almost start laughing because

715
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: you know they don't have the flue. You know, it's

716
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: just because so so I've gotten really good at that.

717
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: That's a big part of the strategy. I I uh,

718
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm huge on in and out, you know, I feel

719
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: like if a lot of these big beer, if you

720
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: can consistently sit on them and not booger it up,

721
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: they're good. And you know they're not gonna be there

722
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: every time, but if you can consistently get in and

723
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: get out, they're gonna eventually be there. And that's you know,

724
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: that was the case with this. And I knew he

725
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: would come to this food source. So we hunted a

726
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: couple of evenings in a row and no side of him,

727
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: no pictures of him, but we were scouting in the

728
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: morning and and you know, and laying eyeballs on it,

729
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: so I knew he was around. Um, he was just

730
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: with this dough. Well, the night before we killed him,

731
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: we should have been November nine, we were sitting on

732
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: that food and sure enough, famous every night the herd

733
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: comes to us. Everything's coming out to be little bucks

734
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: are bumping and chase and you know, we even't had

735
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: a really good solid ten pointer in the field. Um,

736
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: and sure enough he goes out the back door and

737
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: I can see him with his dough going across just

738
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: a grass hayfield, and he takes her the whole completely

739
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: different direction. And then and so the next morning I

740
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: thought to myself, we gotta go there and I gotta

741
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: check this out. We went over and pulled the camera

742
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: and he wasn't in the food food clock at night,

743
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: you know, so we hadn't hadn't been in there since

744
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: he hooked up to this dough. And we went over,

745
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: you know, kind of where he where we've seen him.

746
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, I could probably get on

747
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: this edge and hang a set real quick and wins right,

748
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: and you know, we could roll the dice and I

749
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and I thought about and I thought about it, and

750
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I like to gamble. I'm gonna come a gambler,

751
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: and you know, and so when I played black jack,

752
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: if I hit off fifteen, I hit every every one

753
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: of them all my long. I don't get it. And

754
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: so and so I literally told myself, I thought that

755
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, stay on the food, don't chase.

756
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna be to the food. Just stick there.

757
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: This is you know, if this is the same dough,

758
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be breaking loose anytime. So we didn't, you know,

759
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: it could have went hung and we didn't. Thank god

760
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: we didn't, because that night we went right back in

761
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: there and got in the blind and sure enough he

762
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: popped out at you know, twenty five. Um had a

763
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: dog just kind of bumping around on me. He was

764
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: with her. I think he broke loose from the other one.

765
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: And this is a different here worked his way out

766
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: into the plot, you know, good good light left Um

767
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: fed a little bit, actually fed hard, you can tell you.

768
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: And you know he's been out running for a few days,

769
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: fed hard, and then ended up actually bumping a dog

770
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of down the fence line and out of sight.

771
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: I thought, oh no, you know, he's got it all ready.

772
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's the warrior this time of the year.

773
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you start getting into you know, that

774
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: part of the rut. It doesn't take these big deer

775
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: very long to get to get back with the dough.

776
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: And I thought, he's gonna push her off down on

777
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: these fence lines and he's on. Sure enough, he got lucky,

778
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: he'd come back. Um, you know at this point, and

779
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: I had a couple of forty five yards shots. I

780
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: told him I'm not gonna you know, I wanted forty

781
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: yards are and I'm not gonna push this deer. It's

782
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: I just felt too too good. I felt like we're

783
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: going to get him killed, and we got lucky and

784
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: he he got two close, he got the thirties, you

785
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: know at that point obviously you know, put a good

786
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: hit on him. He barely got out of the food plot,

787
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't even get over the fence back into the cover

788
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: and fell that on camera. So that's that's the long

789
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: of it. That's awesome. It's it's a it's a great

790
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: it's a great example of of playing it smarter on

791
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: deer like that, taking advantage of the data points that

792
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: you were able to collect, and then you know, taking

793
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: your shots at the right time. We talked about that

794
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: so much and this is just a perfect illustration of that.

795
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: So how what did he end up scoring game and change? Wow? Yeah,

796
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: so he grew up. I mean I remember in the

797
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: in the garage, my buddies were taking him and and

798
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: I remember once they got done with the tape and

799
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: one of you know, my buddy Scott, was adding him

800
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: up and I looked at because I was hoping he's

801
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna be in the nineties, you know, before we started

802
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: adding that fractions. I'm like, please tell me mid nineties,

803
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: low nineties, you know, And and Scott looked at him.

804
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: He goes on the two four teams. Still at that

805
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: point I knew I was in really good. He was

806
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: way bigger, you know, it just just to tremendus. He

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: put fifty inches on, you know, and you never know

808
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: what you're going. I knew this year, you know, from

809
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: looking at him had the juice. I mean, it was

810
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: obvious that he had what it would take to blow up.

811
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: But um, you know, he just he put a ton

812
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: of inches on drop time, split stickers, all the faces. Um.

813
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Frame wise, he wasn't a framing year. He's a hundred

814
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: and seventy five inch main frame ten or a seventeen

815
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: inch spread twenty four inch beams. But he had fifty

816
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: inches trash, you know. So he started adding up seven

817
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: eight nine inch splits and eight inch drop times with

818
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: kickers off those and triple brows on one side and

819
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: little stickers on his brind and he just he just

820
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: kept adding. Know so, well, was there anything that you

821
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: took away from this experience, any lesson learned or was

822
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: there something that was just you know, driven home again

823
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: for you? Um? I don't know what was your takeaway

824
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: from this whole deal? You know, I don't know, I've

825
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of it. I mean I've been, you know, I

826
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: was there again. I'm fortunate to grow up, you know.

827
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean where I hunt is where my my dad's

828
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: father homestead, you know. I mean it's it's ground that

829
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: I've grown up my whole life hunt. And I watched

830
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: these deer and I don't know, I feel like when

831
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: I get my eyeballs on them, you know, and I

832
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: know and they're in the wrong spot, which is on me.

833
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: I just anymore. I I you know, I feel like

834
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: I've got the tools and knowledge and I can lay

835
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: things out, says something up, and I can be patient.

836
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: That's another you know. And I'm fortunate. I'm blessed to

837
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: have a situation where I don't you know, rather than

838
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: go and chase another beer around or all, I gotta

839
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: be in a stand night because I got a week

840
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: to hunt, I don't go, you know, I'll go blasts,

841
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I'll try to get some work done over the day

842
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: and we'll take our shot. So I'll be real patient

843
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: and all push real hard too. You know. It's just

844
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's everything you know, you've got. Every

845
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: deer is different. Um, you know, like a couple of

846
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: years ago, I chased around a big one that he

847
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: was kind of a unique buck because every time we

848
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: hunt him, we've seen him, you know, and and and

849
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: that's not very common. You know. You get these five

850
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: and six year old deer that you're hunting. You know,

851
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: some of them you're lucky to see him once and

852
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: that's when you kill him. And others, you know, like

853
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: like this year, you see him here and there, and

854
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, and finally catch up to him, and then

855
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: there's deer or you know, like the the unicorn bucks

856
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: a couple years ago. I mean, I bet we filmed

857
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: in fifteen huns. You know. He was always an eight

858
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: or a hundred, you know, it just but it was cool.

859
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: It was cool because we were on it and he

860
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: had no idea and and that's and that's probably what

861
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I'll take away from it, I guess. And you know,

862
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: the more I talked things about it is these big deer,

863
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: they don't know you're on their tail, and you can

864
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: consistently stay on them. It's a matter of time. And

865
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: that's what I try to do. You know, I'm really

866
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: really big about sending control of my boots. I'm big

867
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: on I was onyx Um. We've used him for years.

868
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: You know. I'm in the huge on setups and scenarios

869
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: of getting in and getting out, you know, And I

870
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: think that's the big one. When you can consistently take

871
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: shots at them and not bogger it, you know eventually

872
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: you're going to connect, you know, when you when you

873
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: take that shot, like you know, when I was younger,

874
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: I might take that shot and dig in there really

875
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: hard to get aggressive and blow something up, you know,

876
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, it sets your back so far that you know,

877
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to recover sometimes from. But you can

878
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: get in and out. You know, when you're on them

879
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: and you know what they're doing, you know you're gonna

880
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: connect it sooner or later. Yeah. Other than the other

881
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: than the setup like you had on this food plot

882
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: you were talking about where you've got the standing corn

883
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: trimmed out that you can come in and out of.

884
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: Do you have any other tricks or things that you've

885
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: done the past to just help with that in and out? Um?

886
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: Because this is something that so many people struggle with

887
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: and it's so important though, Um, anything else you know

888
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: that you during that on that on that front everything

889
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, And it's funny because I drive around my

890
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: neighborhood now. And you know it's funny how you know,

891
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: it's just knowledge kind of grows, and you know, and

892
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: people learn and find out and it everything from planting

893
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: grasses to stacking hay bals too, you know. I mean,

894
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: I've even put camo netting on the bottoms of line

895
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: so we're getting down they can't see us getting, you know,

896
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: down the ladders, and and so yeah, I use all

897
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: kinds of things, hay beals or but I love using

898
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: hay bells, you know, if I last minute kind of deal,

899
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: and you know, I'll go stack some hay bells up

900
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: in front of the blind just so that I know

901
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: I can get out of there and not you know,

902
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: because that's really all it is. I mean, it's you know,

903
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: for the most part, these scenarios, and we set up

904
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you can get down and twenty or

905
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: thirty yards down the trail, you're you're done, You're gone,

906
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that's the big one, just

907
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: setting stuff up to where you can get out. And

908
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: it usually doesn't take much, you know, I mean, if

909
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: you can block visibility like a good good and dark,

910
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, and some of these spots we put food

911
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: so close to bedding that you can go get in

912
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: at noon and there's gonna be eight or ten deer

913
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: on the feeling. And it's just it's just how it is.

914
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Just you're just you're in the right you know. That's

915
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: when you know you're in the right spot. When when

916
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: you're going in and hunting stuff that you know at

917
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: neon one two o'clock afternoon and there's already de in there,

918
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: you know you're doing something right. And that's where even

919
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: getting in you gotta have you gotta have a visual

920
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: barrier to be able to slip in and slip out,

921
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and that's you know, on this dear

922
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: was everything. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I've I've definitely experienced

923
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: on the same things. And I've got a five and

924
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: a half year old buck that I've been hunting here

925
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: in Michigan, and it's been similar to that unicorn buck

926
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: where I'm seeing him almost every time and going after him.

927
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: You know, this this first couple of the first couple

928
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: of weeks in November, when I was hunting him hard,

929
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: I was seeing him all the time, but you know,

930
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: just out of range, that kind of deal. But I

931
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: attributed much of that continued. You know, the fact I

932
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: was still, you know, seeing him. I attributed a lot

933
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: to that, to the fact that I was able to

934
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: get in and out carefully without buggering it up. I

935
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: think that's it's just so important. Um. So before we

936
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: move on, let's take a quick second to thank our

937
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: partners at white Tail Properties. This week with white Tail Properties,

938
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: we were joined by Tom James, a land specialist out

939
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: of Central Indiana, and Tom is going to be telling

940
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: us about what the first habitat improvements should be for

941
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: a land manager. Good question, um. Some of the first

942
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: key things the fundamentals if you want to think about,

943
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: is when you think in terms of what a deer requires,

944
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: the food, security, covering, water and the q d m

945
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: A has a great analogy of the thinking about the

946
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: lowest hole on the bucket that you need to plug

947
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: up to keep the water from leaking out. So what

948
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: could be missing on your property that the surrounding land

949
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: may have, and so you want to do a quick assessment.

950
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Maybe it's food, maybe it's water. Maybe if you can

951
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's cover. If you can look through your woods

952
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: and see two hundred yards, then you've got an issue

953
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: with with too much shade, not enough sunlight, creating new

954
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: potential brows and cover for your deer. So maybe it's

955
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: a timber a timber either stand improvement or a harvest

956
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: or a combination of two that's gonna allow some more

957
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: new growth to come in and picking up your property.

958
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it's as simple as you're not leaving an area

959
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: alone as a sanctuary. If you're trapesing all over forty

960
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: acres and pushing deer off every time you go, then

961
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: that's that's obviously an issue. So maybe just an adjustment

962
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: in the way that you move around and hunt the

963
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: property and approach things. Uh. If food is your lacking

964
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: ingredient or your lowest hole in the bucket, then even

965
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: in timber, it takes some work, but you can certainly

966
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: clear out some openings and plant food. Um and I

967
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: would suggest considering both perennial food and annual food stuff

968
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: that you can leave in like clover and chicory as

969
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: a perennial coming back every year and do some fall

970
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: planted cereal grains and brassicas for the fall time, so

971
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: you've got a year round program going on. And typically

972
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: it's not an issue in the Midwest. But if if

973
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: water is a lacking ingredient, then maybe you can create

974
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: a water hole or even some of the new systems

975
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: like the banks water watering tanks that you can set

976
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: up that are mobile and fill up and provide water

977
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: sources for your deer so that they don't have to

978
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: leave the property to water. Again, it's fairly rare, but

979
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: that could be a consideration. If you'd like to learn

980
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Tom currently has

981
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash James,

982
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: that's j A. M. E. S So. So I want

983
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: to transition a little bit now because we've been talking

984
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: about your success there in early November. People have been,

985
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to November all year and now

986
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: it's it's came and gone in a flash. It's always

987
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: shocking to me how fast it gets here and then

988
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: it's done. Um, So now we're staring December in the face.

989
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: From your perspective, is the best behind us? Or do

990
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: you like the late season? Do we have some good

991
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: things still ahead for us here? Yeah? I love late

992
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: season anymore. I don't like November. I mean, I know,

993
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: I killed my two biggest year been killed, you know,

994
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: in November. My my two archery two hundreds of both

995
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: November ten and twelve. Um, but you had when when

996
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: I killed them off the wall, boy, it real quickly

997
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: goes to late October, late late November and later. You know. Um,

998
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: I struggled a lot in November, and so you know,

999
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: I started getting into that tent and twelve and I

1000
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: haven't got anyting killed. I almost start, you know, looking

1001
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: towards the twenty one and on, because I just we

1002
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: really struggle, you know with these bigger gear once they

1003
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: start locking down with those, And so yeah, I love

1004
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: late season. I'm a you know, I don't farm actively

1005
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: right now, but I've grown up farming, you know, and

1006
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: so we've got equipment, We're fortunately got a lot of food,

1007
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: and so I love late season. Um, you know, I

1008
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: would rather give dear a place to live and hunt

1009
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: them on the edges and hunt him on food. That's

1010
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: you know probably you know what you know, you you

1011
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: put that together with interns and exit, and I think

1012
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: he got it picked at that point, you know, I

1013
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: think he gotta made. And so um, you know, with

1014
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: with late season coming up, you've got good food sources,

1015
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: good grain. I'm a big grain guy when he gets late,

1016
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: i'd really have corn beans. Um. You know, when you

1017
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: get to that late season hunt and you've got good

1018
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: food and you can get in out, it's as deadly

1019
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: as any part of the year in my opinion. Uh So,

1020
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: so if someone you know, right now, it's it's today's

1021
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: last day November. So we're just starting to make that

1022
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: transition into December into that late season kind of phase

1023
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: of the year. Um. Is there anything that should be

1024
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: done that people should be thinking about or or even

1025
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: actually physically doing right now to prepare for this late season? Um?

1026
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: Or would you say, you know, just get out and

1027
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: start hunting food or I don't know, is there any

1028
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of transitionary things they should be doing right now

1029
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: to get ready for that best late cold weather and hunts,

1030
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: you know? And I would say, you know, if you've

1031
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: got to do something, you're buying the eight ball, and

1032
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: it always got to be done ahead of time. You've

1033
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: got to kind of prepare and have your stuff set up,

1034
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: because at this point I just locked down everything. I

1035
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: keep everything do a minimum. Um. And I really watched

1036
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: my cameras. You know, we'll we'll run a bunch of cameras.

1037
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, they start coming back with the scrapes real

1038
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: hard once the red lines and it seems like the

1039
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: signpost kind of, you know, so you can run some

1040
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: cameras back on the scrapes and a lot of food

1041
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: and sore stuff, a lot of time lapps, you know,

1042
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: I run a lot of time laps cameras so I

1043
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: can see the whole food plot before the sun goes down.

1044
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm doing, you know. And and

1045
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. You know, a lot of these

1046
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: food plots, I may have them set up to where

1047
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: you know, they are tight to the bedding, you know,

1048
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: which is when you get those beer in the real early.

1049
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: You know, I've killed a lot of here in lots

1050
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: of years. I've killed a lot of ear at three

1051
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, you know, five, six, seven year

1052
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: old and hex uh two years ago I killed the

1053
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: nine and a half year old and it was like three,

1054
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, so but that yeah, but that's kind of

1055
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: getting back into that. You know, the foods where it

1056
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: needs to be. It's close to the bedding. They don't

1057
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: have to move very far to get to it. But

1058
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: then I've also got that you know component of if

1059
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put some food here. You know, how can

1060
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: I monitor? How can I check it? Well, you know

1061
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the blind deal. I tried to

1062
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: set it up to where, you know, as long as

1063
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I got the right wind, I can get in there,

1064
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: pull some cards, get out midday or early late morning,

1065
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, and not having the issues. Um, you know,

1066
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: we're big on vehicles too, you know, Well, I'd much

1067
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: rather pulling somewhere like a farmer, would, you know, just

1068
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: in case something is on the food, you know, the

1069
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: middle of the a I'd really pull in there. And

1070
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: you know sometimes I'll even take the tractor and you know,

1071
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: just because they're used to it and it doesn't bother

1072
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: them as much, you know, but I'd much rather you know,

1073
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: take a risk with a vehicle or attractive and you

1074
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: know walking up the hill and blowling out of fields

1075
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, on foot. So a lot of things with

1076
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: the with the trail cameras you were talking about, you know,

1077
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: monitoring these and you talked about using vehicles to access

1078
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: it and things like that. Um, how often do you

1079
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: go in to check these cameras? Because that's always something

1080
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: I struggle with, is to your point earlier you want

1081
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: to keep everything, all your impact as minimal as possible.

1082
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you need to monitor these

1083
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: somehows that you can make sure you're hunting at the

1084
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: right time. So how do you balance that? Um, you know,

1085
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: if the wind's right and I'm cautious, I'm not going

1086
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: into their bedroom to get these and so I I

1087
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: don't worry about that as much. Not what that said.

1088
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: I'm not checking them every day, but I don't worry

1089
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: about it too much. I'm really careful with my feet. Um,

1090
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'll really take care of my boots. But

1091
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: if the wind's right, you know, I'm not leaving a

1092
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: munch of boot tracks, which I'm there again, that's kind

1093
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: of one of my my deals. I really watched my

1094
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: my fliot tracks. Um, it doesn't bother me too much.

1095
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'll slip in, slip out. You know. I

1096
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: think I think deer expect a certain amount of pressure.

1097
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: I think that they can they live with the next

1098
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: amount of pressure, and I think that's a pressure that

1099
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: doesn't bother them. You know, you're not going into their bedroom,

1100
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: You're not bumping them out of bed, You're not you know,

1101
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: as long as you're not flowing wind right down into

1102
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: a drawer or ditch or block. The woods are in,

1103
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, and you're careful that's your feet. I'm big

1104
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: on feet. Um. You know, I don't think it really

1105
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: hurts me too much, you know. So you know, if

1106
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: I know there's a good one in there and I'm

1107
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: really monitoring, I mean, I I may check camera, you know,

1108
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: like that big one this year. We were checking the

1109
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: camera every couple of days, you know. But we we

1110
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: got in, got out. You know, we didn't do on

1111
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: the wind at all, but if we had the right wind,

1112
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: we'd go. We'd slip in, slip out, check it, you know,

1113
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: and make a decision from there. Yeah. Do you do

1114
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: any other scouting of any kind this time of year?

1115
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: Maybe glassing or literally walking around at all, anything else

1116
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: other than the cameras. Yeah. Glass, I'm a big I'm

1117
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: a big glass. I've got all kinds of places. Most

1118
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: of my farms, you know, they're tough, but you know

1119
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: we've got advantage points. Um. You know that we can

1120
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: go park and just glass and sit and watch and

1121
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, and I like doing that because I can

1122
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: cover a lot more ground. Growing up, my father was big,

1123
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: you know that was one of the things we did.

1124
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: You know, we covered a lot of ground. We had

1125
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of ground to hunt grown up um, you know,

1126
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: and so rather than being stuck or can find in

1127
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: one spot, you know, we could bounce around and cover

1128
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: multiple farms and look at stuff and you know a

1129
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of deer I kill. I mean that's kind of

1130
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: where it will start. You know, a lot of times

1131
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: it's all I'll pick them up from glasso or scouting,

1132
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, their picture. But when you can lay eyeballs

1133
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: on and watch them for ten minutes, you know, making

1134
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: natural movement, and then you can really start to you know,

1135
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: connect the dots at that point. And so while was

1136
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: the deer I shoot, you know, that's a big part

1137
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: of it, is his glassing, scouting from the road, pulling

1138
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: into high points, you know, anywhere you can get away

1139
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: with it. So so would it be fair to say

1140
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: that you are doing that more often than maybe you're

1141
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: even hunting during the late season. Yeah. Absolutely. My cameraman's

1142
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: love me. They love you know, because I'm not the

1143
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna just pound it out for seven straight days.

1144
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean I may hunt one day in seven, you know,

1145
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: if that's you know, because I'm not I'm not big

1146
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: on blind hunting. I don't like to just goes all

1147
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: that's going here the winds right, you know. I like scenarios.

1148
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: I like no big here and there. I like to

1149
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: have a game plan. That's what gets me fired up anymore,

1150
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, And so when I can really start, you know,

1151
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I like going into a set because I've got a

1152
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: whole bunch of data getting me there. I don't like

1153
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: going and just setting all day and a set somewhere

1154
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: to say I'm hunting. You know, I would rather go

1155
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: go pick in points apart and start putting them together

1156
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: and be really fired up going in somewhere because I

1157
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: know he's either there or closed or he's been there,

1158
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: you know. And so yeah, I do have tons of scounting.

1159
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: I would. You know, this year, we we weren't hunting

1160
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: mornings much at all because I didn't want to go

1161
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: take the chance. I knew I had his I had

1162
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: his kitchen, you know, I can hut him in the bedroom.

1163
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: But I knew I had the food. I knew that

1164
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: we could get in and out super super easy. It

1165
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: was like a dream set up for in and out,

1166
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: and so I just you know, mornings. We we took

1167
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: a couple of shots seen him once, you know, about

1168
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: killed him that first move I made on him. But

1169
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, in the mornings, i'd go run around the

1170
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: sections and part and watch and just see if I

1171
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: put eyeballs on him. And and we did. You know,

1172
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: we've seen him quite a bit. Yeah. So so in

1173
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: the late season then what what has to be present

1174
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: as far as conditions or data for you to take

1175
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: that shot? Um? Like right now, I'm struggling with after

1176
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: that year. Um, I've got a handful of five year

1177
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: olds that didn't grow much. Um. And so I'm really

1178
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: struggling with him. And I'm rolling the dice and maybe

1179
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: all of them, but one for letting them go another

1180
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: year to see what happens. Um. But you know it

1181
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: like that one deer, I'm gonna want to I'm gonna

1182
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to get it. You don't where he's did, right,

1183
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, I know where he likes to bed. I

1184
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: know kind of where his home is. Um, But I

1185
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: wanna I want to get him in on that food plot.

1186
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: I want to see him on camera. I'd like to

1187
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: see him in daylight, you know, whether it's scouting that

1188
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: food plot, from a distance or slipping in and pulling

1189
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: a card. Um. But yeah, I won't, you know. I

1190
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: talked to Adam, a cameraman just earlier today, and he

1191
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: asked me what's going on? I said, absolutely nothing. And

1192
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: it won't be the weather's warm, I said, once it

1193
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: cools off, I said, I'm gonna keep watching camera's'mna keep

1194
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: scouting and once I really get one, you know, once

1195
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: you know one's in there, and then then I'll get

1196
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: after it. But if I don't know there's one in there,

1197
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: I'll leave it alone, you know. And so between cameras

1198
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: or or glassing you know, a field, I'll sit back, um,

1199
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: rather than take a shot and go up in there

1200
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: and you know, just on a whim and and you know,

1201
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe something happens and and figgure it up and you know,

1202
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: and set yourself back. So so would you not even

1203
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: go in if we got a great set of conditions.

1204
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: So let's say you haven't gotten eyes on him, you know,

1205
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: recent in daylight or something like that, but we just

1206
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: get this mega cold front and snow. Will something like

1207
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: that dream scenario be enough to get you to go

1208
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: in there even though you don't have the sighting or

1209
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: the picture to tell you to go or is it

1210
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: you I gotta have that, yeah, yeah, And that's if

1211
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: you get a you know that that big cold push

1212
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: coming down, big front, cold temperature, snow, you know, the

1213
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: perfect storm everybody wants and looks you got all roll

1214
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: the dice on those average conditions. Now I'll just sit

1215
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: back all way. You know. Now I've killed a lot

1216
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: of deer in average conditions because there again I went

1217
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: full of the card or glass the field and wow,

1218
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: he's in there, you know, fortyfore dark and and then

1219
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, the next night getting there on very fair

1220
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, conditions that are fair at best, you know,

1221
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: warm or wind whatever, and get up killed. But yeah,

1222
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 1: if I get that perfect storm of big front moving

1223
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: in cold camps some snow combined, yeah, then then what

1224
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I do is if I don't have one, really you know,

1225
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: a beat on one, then I just used my gut up. Okay,

1226
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is where he's gonna be, this

1227
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: where he's always been, this is where he likes to

1228
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: be this time of the year. And then I'll take

1229
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: my shot, you know at that point, So weather, we'll

1230
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: get me, We'll get me on a food source even

1231
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: without you know, getting some sort of data knowing they're

1232
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah. Do do you pay attention at all

1233
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: to things like like an annual pattern, Like if you

1234
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: saw a certain buck, you know, show up in daylight

1235
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: last year on December fifteenth and seventeenth and eighteen, would

1236
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: you think about that this year and say, hey, I

1237
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: think it's likely he might start showing up around the

1238
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: same time him. Do you pay attention to anything like that? Oh? Absolutely,

1239
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: the moon, the pressure recently, you know, because I'm that year,

1240
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, like that nine and a

1241
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: half year old, like he may have been ten a half.

1242
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: We had pictures of him from either too to nine

1243
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: or from three to ten, so you know, it's kind

1244
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: of at that point is to know it's in the

1245
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: nine or ten year old. But but like that there,

1246
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, once we didn't get it killed and we

1247
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: and we've we've seen him the year before killed him

1248
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: for the first time. But yeah, you know, once I

1249
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: look back at him, I mean his patterns spring and

1250
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: summer and falling winter were the same for eight years,

1251
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, And so yeah, I I had a lot

1252
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: of here that way, where you know, if they do

1253
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: something one year at a certain time frame, there's a

1254
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: lot of there's a good chance that you know, they'll

1255
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: do the same thing in a similar time frame the

1256
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: following year. And and a lot of us do it

1257
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: sing too. You know. On my farm, we've got we've

1258
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: got river bottom, you know, which is always early season.

1259
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: That's where they're at, you know, you can about bank

1260
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: on it. And then I've got these you know, wintering

1261
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: farms or you know areas where they just transition, you know,

1262
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: And so you know, year after year, I've learned that,

1263
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, if there's deer on this bottom and when

1264
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: it when they start looking for that warm spot on

1265
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: the hill, they're gonna be right up here, you know.

1266
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: And so you know, a lot of that weather will

1267
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: dictate that. But then also, like you said, you know,

1268
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: four year old one year, you know he's up here,

1269
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, seting doing whatever. Following year. It's funny how

1270
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: more often than not about the same time they'll do

1271
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah. So another thing that I've personally

1272
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: been trying to to look at kind of similar to this,

1273
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: see if I can identify pattern with this buck that

1274
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: I keep mentioning that I've been trying to figure out, Um,

1275
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: I've started to wonder, you know, does he show up

1276
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: in a certain food source or in a certain area

1277
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: with a given wind direction and try to correlate that.

1278
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: So so, no, Okay, when there's a southwest wind, it's

1279
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: probably my best chance he'll be on the south side

1280
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: of farm with the southwest wind. But then when I

1281
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: got the northwest wind, then it's most likely he's gonna

1282
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: be over here. Do you see common movement with a

1283
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: common wind direction over the years, And then he's dear too.

1284
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't that one. I would say, No, um, you know,

1285
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: I that one. I've not dug in that. Um. Sometimes,

1286
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, and this isn't I mean, I'm not. Sometimes

1287
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: I actually getting too much, you know, I really do,

1288
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: And I mean I I sometimes I listen to people

1289
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: and kind of their theory and stories, and it's like

1290
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I remember there an animal, you know, and so

1291
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: is there are there bucks out there that get just

1292
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: so ridiculously smart they don't move unless the winds. Yeah,

1293
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are. But you know, I'm fortunate up

1294
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: there again to being an area where there are pressure.

1295
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: We keep the pressure low. I just don't I don't

1296
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: see that, you know what I mean? And I'm not

1297
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: saying doesn't happen, but it's it's not something that I've

1298
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: taken note of over the years and thought, you know, wow,

1299
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: this Bucks. I mean with the north Wind, he's gonna

1300
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: go off this side, and with this album when he's

1301
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna go off this you know. Um, that's one I

1302
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: really haven't dealt with personally. Yeah, I think your point

1303
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: about sometimes we take it too far. I think there's

1304
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: something to be said about that. I think you can

1305
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: get And I'm guilty of this because I'm such a

1306
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: data driven guy. I want to analyze things so much,

1307
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: but sometimes you can get that paralysis by analysis, I think,

1308
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: And that's you gotta walk this fine line between being

1309
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: smart about it and making informed decisions, but at the

1310
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: same time not just going overboard. So that's that's tricky.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not my agree, and it's all calculated. It's just

1312
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes you can get taught up and give them

1313
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: a little bit too much credit, you know. I feel

1314
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: like that happens a lot anymore. To be honest with

1315
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta remember their creature have If they

1316
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: don't reason, you know, I mean, it's they're gonna do things,

1317
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, to survive and they sometimes I think we

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Speaker 1: so what about this scenario. Then, Let's say you've got

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Speaker 1: a handful of different types of food sources on your

1345
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: property in the late season. Maybe you maybe you've got

1346
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: a grain field somewhere, maybe that's corner beans. And then

1347
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe you've got a green food source, maybe it's brassicas

1348
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: or something like that. Uh, and who knows what else.

1349
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 1: Maybe then there's a natural forage area. Maybe there's still

1350
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: some akecorns or something along those lines in another section

1351
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: near farm. I find myself in this to lem him,

1352
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into a late season hunt. Conditions seem good,

1353
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, which food source should I focus on?

1354
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: Because so much late season hunting is focused on food?

1355
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: How do you choose the right food? Is there any

1356
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: set of conditions that you said, Okay, now i'm gonna

1357
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: focus on green. Now I'm gonna focus on grain. Now

1358
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something different. How do you think about that? Um,

1359
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: that's corn? Is king? That is easy. I mean, I

1360
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: just I've always lived like and here's late season. You know,

1361
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: you get your guys that a diehard being guys, and

1362
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: I always laugh and say, you better hope my corn

1363
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: plotting across the sense or across the road from me,

1364
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna own them in And I truly believe that.

1365
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: I just don't. I think beans are great. I think

1366
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: they've got this place. I think they're they're awesome food

1367
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: source for a longer time frame. You know, it's like alfalfa.

1368
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I think alfalfa is probably the one I've taken off

1369
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: my farm and I'm putting it back on my farm.

1370
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: And I think alfalfa's, you know, if you want to

1371
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: hold dear, is one of the most important, you know components.

1372
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: I think beans have an awesome place. But when you

1373
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: get right down to late season hunting and what they

1374
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: really need, it's it's cars, it's corn. You know they're

1375
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna come to you. You know you've got a food

1376
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: plot that's half corn, half beans. I'm not saying they're

1377
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna go all, you know, but that corn is gonna

1378
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: own the majority of them. And I think with consistency,

1379
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna there's gonna be some nifer. Yeah, they're gonna

1380
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna hit. You're gonna see dearing the beans a

1381
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: little more in the corn. But I think consistently, day

1382
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: in day out, when you're hunting, you know, in our

1383
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: region where you're snow and cold and their survival mode

1384
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: corns game, do you give any do you have any? Um?

1385
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? Green food sources like turnips,

1386
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: Brassica's rape kill, all that kind of stuff. Does that

1387
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: do much for you? Yeah? We use them, Yeah, we

1388
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: use them. And I think there's some you know, like

1389
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: post right like right now, you know, first gun season

1390
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: for us early December. I think it's phenomenal, um, you know,

1391
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: because it's the last green rang else has done turned.

1392
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: And you know, if you've got some green and everything

1393
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: else has already turned, yeah, you're you know, you're you're

1394
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: in the chips and so and so that's where you know,

1395
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these different you know, food sources have

1396
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: their spots, you know, and out on them and I

1397
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: love them. But when you start talking consistently, day in

1398
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: day out, corn is king. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to

1399
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: beat that. Um. Now, how about we're actually out there hunting, though, Well,

1400
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious about your actual stand set ups

1401
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: for the late season. Are you are you are you

1402
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: hunting on tree stands? Are you just doing ground blinds

1403
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: or box blinds or if you are in a tree stand.

1404
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'd be interested in the details of how

1405
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: you make a tree stand set up work in the

1406
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: late season, given you know some of the challenges with

1407
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: cover and stuff like that too. What's what's your take

1408
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: on that the only time I hunt stands laid is

1409
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 1: if it's the only option, you know, whether it's topography

1410
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: or or there's a deer somewhere you didn't expect and

1411
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: there's just no way you want to risk putting the

1412
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: blind in there. Um, But that there again, you know,

1413
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I prepare well enough that that really

1414
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. Um, it's been quite a while.

1415
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: But know, we're technically hunting, you know, some sort of

1416
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: a blind. We're either in banks or in a you know,

1417
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: a hay bell blind ground blind. Um. But you know,

1418
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: i'd say my go too is for the most part

1419
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: of my banks blinds and hay Bell blinds, you know,

1420
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: I love in cattle country, they're used to Hey, bells.

1421
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we get in the room and we like them.

1422
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, they work out really well. Um, once in

1423
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: a while we'll run to pop up, just quick and easy,

1424
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: you know. But I like my banks blinds. They're they're

1425
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: they're pretty tough to be when snows on the ground

1426
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: and it's in the teams for highs. Yeah, a little

1427
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: more comfortable too, yeah, Yeah, office chairs or night Yeah.

1428
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: My dad whenever he uses one of my box blinds,

1429
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: he always brings a little Mr Heat, Mr Buddy heater

1430
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: and there too, you can get real luxurious. Yeah if

1431
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: I if I'm in the right spot, I'll do it.

1432
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: We do it too, you know. But if we're we're

1433
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: flirting at the edge, will hold off on that. But

1434
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: if we're in one responses bulletproof and you know we

1435
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: don't have any worries, and yeah we'll fire for heater.

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: You know. Now when you're in a blind like that

1437
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: or maybe your hay L blind. Um, you talked about

1438
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: how much you you use thosonics, which I do too. Um,

1439
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: how do you set up your asonis in that situation? Uh,

1440
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 1: to to still maintain that you know that that stream

1441
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: of scent elimination of sorts well, I mean we we

1442
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: just mount them. You know, it's like it's it's you know,

1443
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: figure out where your winds at and get them mounted.

1444
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's blind like a hay bell or ground

1445
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: by even that's even you know, like a tower blind

1446
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: of banks that's got you know, like ours as mintoles.

1447
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, if you can then ventury or force your

1448
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: your wind through one spot and wash it. And so

1449
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times yeah, we'll leave you know, part

1450
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: of the door on a zip or not, you know,

1451
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: completely shut, or we'll crack a window, or in the

1452
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: banks blinds, we'll put our those omics right over that

1453
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: vent hole to where you know you're really really doing it.

1454
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're washing your sense so to speak,

1455
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: in the best way possible because you're were snarling down

1456
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: to a tight little spot and then you're putting that

1457
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: those ms fry on top of it. So you know,

1458
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: in the in the bank's lines, I'll just walk it.

1459
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: When I get up get up in there on the platform,

1460
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: I'll just put it up on the roof once I

1461
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: know where the winds at. Um. A lot of kids

1462
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: loopen a window, mount one to the window and then

1463
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: shut it, you know, so that it's going in the

1464
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: same way with like our hay bells. Um. You know,

1465
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: I'll just screw the same tree attachment, you know, I'll

1466
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: just screw right into the wall on the outside. Once

1467
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: I know where the winds at and turn it on

1468
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: turbo and and so so it's just about wherever your

1469
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: winds going. Just you know, what I've always told people

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Speaker 1: and the doubters is it's more of a washing mechanism.

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: It's not you know, going on the insinality. You want

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: wherever your winds going, you want you want it going

1473
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: right through that that o zone, you know, And so

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: we just set it up accordingly. Yeah, do you have

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: a specifically made mount to use the with a with

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01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: a box spline like that or do you make something custom? No,

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: I just put on the roof, um and if and

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: if it's if it's flick or something, you know, then

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: then I improviseed. I mean earlier the year I took

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: a you know, I always carry kate, you know, my backpack,

1481
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: and I really just took a piece of guerrilla tape,

1482
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, and roll it over stuck on the bottom

1483
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: and just you know, and then and then it just

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: stuck to the top now on the windows, they do

1485
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: make that mount word to Cliff on the windows, which

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: is I think it's actually designed for your pull in

1487
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: a pop up wind and you're you know, in those

1488
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: in the pop ups, they've got that one mount um

1489
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: that same mount will hook right on the window bracket

1490
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: of them banks. I know, there's hook right in and hand,

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: you know. So and now I even went extreme before

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: and just screwed a hole right on the side of

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: the line, you know. I you know, if that's what

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: it takes, and I'm on a big one, then I'm

1495
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: gonna screw a hole on the side of my blind.

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. So we just find a way

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01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: to make it work. I guess, you know. It's like

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: it's it's like a throw camera. It's awesome if you

1499
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: gotta you know, though a trail pod or you've got

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: some sort of mechanism to you know, get it all perfect.

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of times I don't have that.

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm using twigs STIGs, and you know, it's just whatever

1503
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: you can get to to get it where you need.

1504
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: And that's kind of thing with once I figure out

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: my wind is I just you know, try to get

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: up above us and downwind yea, do what you gotta

1507
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: do exactly. So is there is there anything else in

1508
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: the late season front, uh, that we haven't talked about?

1509
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: Is there anything you're doing at this time of year

1510
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: throughout the end of the season, um that has led

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01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: to success for you that we haven't talked about now?

1512
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's basically food and you know,

1513
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: evening hunts very very very rarely morning and I mean

1514
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 1: I can't even remember the last time. It's been years,

1515
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, But mainly it's you know, take your shots,

1516
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: you know, add up all the data, take your shots,

1517
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: and you feel good, hunt the weather, you know, don't

1518
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: get busted. I mean that's you know, good food. That's

1519
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: and that's the key, you know. And that's tough. I mean,

1520
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: not everybody's got the availability to you know, get you know,

1521
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: the food needed, you know, on farms and they're getting

1522
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: anfortunate up to they do. And then we get tractors

1523
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: and planners and I want a plant ten acres and

1524
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: standing corn somewhere. I go to plant ten a tan

1525
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: acres standing corn and you know, at that point and

1526
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna make it through season. And then

1527
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: we run the combine through it when it's over, so

1528
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: you know it's it makes you know. So, so that's

1529
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: the big one, you know, basically taking your shots. And

1530
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: if you don't have food, you don't have deer. You know,

1531
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: you're around my area, so you gotta have food, you know.

1532
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: And anymore everybody seems like, you know, food is becoming

1533
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: more prevalent, you know, So if you want to hold

1534
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: your deer, you know, if you lose, if you run

1535
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: out of food, your neighbors are gonna be holding your deer,

1536
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: you know. So you're just trying to You're trying to

1537
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: get them through season with enough food on your farm.

1538
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: They ain't looking somewhere else. Yeah, that's the trick. That

1539
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: is the trick. Sure, absolutely well, I guess you know.

1540
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: Here here's one final thing um that we hadn't mentioned,

1541
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: which is just getting a shot off in the late

1542
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: season when you're wearing more clothing or it's just colder.

1543
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: Is that something you think about when it comes to

1544
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: whether you're still bow hunting or using fire arms or

1545
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: anything specially you think about when it comes to that

1546
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: moment of truth here in the later part of the year,

1547
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: as conditions and and just you're what you're actually wearing

1548
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: out there might be differ. Yeah. I mean, if I'm

1549
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: bow hunting, absolutely, you know, I'm a big fan of

1550
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 1: heater body suits. You know, if I'm bow hunting late season,

1551
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: I just don't like shooting really bulky and I'm not

1552
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: one of those guys that can do it. I don't

1553
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: like to do it, you know. So yeah, at that

1554
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: the point, if I'm bow hunting late season, you know,

1555
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: i'd much other being a heater body soon with light

1556
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: layers underneath, so that you know, I can I feel

1557
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: normal shooting my bow. Um, you know, that'd be the

1558
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: big one. If I'm gun hund I'm not not worried

1559
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: about it all. I can be as bulky and heavy

1560
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: as I want to be and it doesn't affect me.

1561
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: But with the bow, I like to get in the

1562
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: heater body suit and try to keep you know, my

1563
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: layers to a minimum so I'm not all bound up. Yeah.

1564
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: You know, another thing I've always recommended to folks too,

1565
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 1: is you know, regardless of what you're wearing, when you

1566
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: get up into your tree, you're blind wherever you're at,

1567
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: make sure you you just test it out. So make

1568
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: sure you draw back and feel how it's gonna feel,

1569
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: and make sure nothing's bunching up, you know, unexpectedly that

1570
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: that you know, if you hadn't practice through that routine

1571
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: wearing your late season gear, you wouldn't have noticed that,

1572
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, I got all this huge bunch up on

1573
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: my left arm that maybe would mess up with the

1574
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 1: with your cables or something. So that's good, just to

1575
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: practice make sure that's happening. Um okay. And then and

1576
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: then I don't even I don't know if this is

1577
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: something you ever do, but I find myself on those

1578
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: really cold days that if you sit if you're sitting

1579
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 1: there for three or four hours in the evening maybe

1580
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 1: and it's seven degrees or ten degrees or something, you

1581
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: kind of stiffen up a little bit. So if you

1582
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: if you find yourself where there's for sure no deer

1583
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: in sight, and and of course that's not always a given,

1584
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: but if you can find yourself a little second where

1585
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: you can just draw that bow back just to warm

1586
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: yourself up and stretch those muscles out, sometimes that's a

1587
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: good thing to do too. Yeah. I've even climbed it

1588
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: down the stand on because I was beyond because I

1589
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: was beyond the point of worried about my bow. I was,

1590
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: I was in freeze mode, you know. So I've even yeah,

1591
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you look around, if you feel comfortable

1592
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: and it's early, I've even climbed down the tree. And

1593
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: by I mean that will get to warm up in hurry. So,

1594
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: especially when you're in a thirty three stand like most

1595
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: of mine, are you you got mounting up once seriously

1596
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: warmed up for a while. Yeah, and and taking that

1597
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: little risk of going up and down, that's that's better

1598
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: than having to leave completely right and complete. Yeah, I'd

1599
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 1: rather do that and sit there and like you said,

1600
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: stove up and make a bad shot or you know,

1601
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: not be able to get your bow back or you

1602
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: know whatever. But yeah, I'd rather I'd really take that

1603
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: chance and be able to sit there for another hour

1604
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: and to you know, not be able to get my

1605
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: bow anchored back ride or be stoved up and leave

1606
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: type of deal. So sure, well, Gabe, I'm gonna try

1607
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: to take some of the things we've been talking about

1608
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: today and put them into action. Actually right now I'm

1609
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna I'm down in Ohio for the last couple of

1610
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: days of their firearm season, so I'm gonna wrap this

1611
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: up and try to kill a very late November buck.

1612
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: But for anyone out there who has heard this conversation

1613
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 1: and wants to get in touch with you about about

1614
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: land or anything else, you know, where can they learn

1615
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: more about what you've got going on or possibly get

1616
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: in touch with you, Well, they can obviously give me

1617
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: a call. I mean, our website, you know, White cell

1618
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: Properties dot Com is gonna have about everything you could

1619
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: ask for, contact territories, you know, regions, states, all that.

1620
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be on there for information. Um

1621
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: But email, text, phone calls specifically wants to talk to

1622
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: me about something in my arie, and I will you know,

1623
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: um by keep an eye on all those and so phone, call,

1624
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: text or email and get a hold of me. Awesome. Well, Gabe,

1625
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you taking the time out of your

1626
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: busy schedule to do this with us. And uh and

1627
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much and good luck for the rest

1628
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: of the season. Yep, no, I appreciate it. Good luck

1629
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: to you and hopefully hopefully your Ohio works out for it.

1630
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: I got my fingers crossed right on and that will

1631
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: do it for us today. Thank you guys for tuning

1632
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: into this one, a couple of quick things before we go.

1633
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: First off, I just want to thank everyone who's left

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Speaker 1: you know, we're definitely one of the highest rated hunting

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Speaker 1: So big, big thank you. If you haven't left a

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Speaker 1: couple of quick seconds to leave a few thoughts or

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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,439
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1644
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,360
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1648
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Speaker 1: And finally, thank you again to everyone out there listening

1649
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: taking time out of your day to spend with us, ma'am.

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01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: That means a lot. We appreciate it. So if you're

1651
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: still hunting, which which I hope you are, I'm wishing

1652
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: you all the luck in the world, and until next time,

1653
01:18:54,680 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: stay wired to hunt. It can be that