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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is now available on video.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, well some heroes, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up boys? Sessler? Ferris buellerd out of

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Speaker 1: this one. He's gotta float somewhere downtown singing the Beatles.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was the Beatles, was it. Don't

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Speaker 1: make referenceships that our young listenership doesn't understand before their time.

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Speaker 1: That's why we Fris Buelers stay off. Come on, So

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Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't talk about the greatest editor of

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Speaker 1: the of the twentie century dying yesterday, Ben Bradley. Now

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Speaker 1: that that's why we're so popular with advertisers and within

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Speaker 1: the building, is that we are really nailing that twelve

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Speaker 1: to eighteen demographic. The kitties. The kitties love us, go

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Speaker 1: buy some. They have no idea what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: These kids today, I'll tell you what. We have a

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Speaker 1: great show. This is our Wednesday show, back for another

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Speaker 1: week of preview, this time previewing week eight. And we

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: um go over the We're gonna hit the Thursday night preview,

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Speaker 1: which probably the best Thursday night game of the year.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers heading up to Mile High to face the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and an a f C West showdown. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that game, give it some love. We are

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Speaker 1: going to go over Chris Westling's latest top ten list.

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Speaker 1: This time it is top ten Deserving Pro Bowl Players

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Speaker 1: or deserving players that deserve to go to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And uh, then we will play a little game, kind

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Speaker 1: of a new game based on a post we have

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Speaker 1: up on the Around the NFL site, which you can

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Speaker 1: access at nfl dot com Slash around the NFL. It

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Speaker 1: is the trades that we'd like to see ahead of

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Speaker 1: Thursday's trade deadl The pause before the slash keeps getting

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Speaker 1: longer and longer. It's kind of like your addition of

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Speaker 1: the old Pat summer all thing. You know that he

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Speaker 1: would say at the end of every game, you know

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Speaker 1: that one but murder She wrote, there we go. I

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Speaker 1: was always talking about that. I am he loves summer.

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Speaker 1: All I do love summer, all I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember him saying stay tuned for murder. Shop that was

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Speaker 1: his famous thing. He would do the promo this is

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Speaker 1: more stuff that our twelve eighteen demographic won't get. But

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Speaker 1: you know, let's shut up Lombardi and listen up. Um No,

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Speaker 1: he would do this. He would do the promo for

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Speaker 1: Murder shing Room before, which came on after sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: every Sunday night, and he started to have fun with

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Speaker 1: it where he would like take a long pause after

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Speaker 1: murder Murder, she wrote, and he would change the inflection.

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Speaker 1: That's because there's there's the ellipses work for t V.

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Speaker 1: I like that. No idea what he gets talking about. Really,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna get to all that big show, big

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Speaker 1: show before we do anything, though, we're gonna check in

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Speaker 1: formally with t D. T D. I want to issue

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Speaker 1: an apology. It seemed like I maybe rode you hard

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Speaker 1: a little bit on Sunday. Seemed to be some hard feelings. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just we demand greatness, and as at

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Speaker 1: certain points of the podcast, I didn't think you delivered it,

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Speaker 1: but on balance your excellent producers. So I want to

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Speaker 1: apologize kind of, guys, it's fine. You know you expect

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Speaker 1: greatness from the show. I expect greatness from the show

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Speaker 1: as well. So every now and then we slip up,

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Speaker 1: but we're here to get the show back on the road.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's great. I feel like we're in a

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Speaker 1: good place. That was very earnest. Surprisingly earnest. Let's do

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Speaker 1: some news. Yes, and I screwed up right there, and

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Speaker 1: then already I don't know, guys, all right, let's do

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Speaker 1: that again, doing it again. It happen in London. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's play the game. What what is that from? Because

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Speaker 1: I'm stumped. I have no idea. I don't know either, Greg,

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Speaker 1: in London. Happened in London, And you don't remember that

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Speaker 1: Joey Trubiani when he first finds out it's just Friends

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Speaker 1: for those who don't know, first, what are you? And

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Speaker 1: a great show there was? That was one of the

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Speaker 1: worst shows of all times. I'm sorry. It's not Mash West.

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Speaker 1: every episode of Friends got to be the formula mad lips.

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Speaker 1: alright awful by the way, t D, I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about now, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: that was an iconic line from the show. I think

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Speaker 1: am embarrassed for our listeners. Two teams in London with

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Speaker 1: he's her lobster. Way down the line, Well, are you

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Speaker 1: some news, gentlemen. Let's start with Percy Harvin. We haven't

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Speaker 1: was traded to the Jets, of course on Friday. Last

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Speaker 1: Wednesday said that Percy Harvon will have a minor role

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Speaker 1: I just want to throw it to you, guys. I

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Speaker 1: exactly kind of what they need. It's it's a roll

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Speaker 1: way the Seahawks handled it. You never heard anything bad

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Speaker 1: they orchestrate this message to the media. They disseminate all

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Speaker 1: the information to all the NFL insiders around the country

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Speaker 1: talking about the fights. He caused, talking about asking out

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Speaker 1: of games. It's just like a propaganda campaign, and teams

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just trade a player and move on

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Speaker 1: without the propaganda. Well people knew some of these stories.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense though, because the Seahawks knew they had

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's been a problem or not. It

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Speaker 1: That's the second part of have Brett Farve run around that.

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Speaker 1: I think Percy Harvin does well in the same way

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Speaker 1: Also the same way that Jeremy Curley does well, which

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Speaker 1: you might be killing them for this trade not understanding it.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, the some Patriots news will start with a

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Speaker 1: trade they pulled off on Tuesday. They acquired Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the league this year. We will not play

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Speaker 1: Jason Varette in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation,

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Speaker 1: He's been great, questionable to play with a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: and they have They're without a couple of pass rushers

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Speaker 1: to Peyton Manning is gonna have an easy time of it, Dwight.

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Speaker 1: They've also been without Dwight Freeney for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He started out the season oh well, has totally vanished.

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Speaker 1: And to flip it over to the Charger side, I

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Speaker 1: mean Rivers, that offensive line is not playing well. The

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Speaker 1: running game should be fine, but he's going up against

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Speaker 1: what's now one of the best defense in the league

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Speaker 1: and has a cornerback trio that I think is the

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Speaker 1: best cornerback trio in the league because Chris Harris is

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Speaker 1: playing incredible. Bradley Roby was a great pick by John Elway.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of out of left field pick. He's

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Speaker 1: playing terrific and then to keep to leave is doing

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Speaker 1: his thing. It doesn't set up well for this Philip

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Speaker 1: sets up like, after this game people are talking about, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just Peyton and the Broncos year. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Man was another m VP that would be insane. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's other people in the mix to this year, DeMarco Murray,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Roger who knows J. J. Watt they're a

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Speaker 1: lock in there. I don't know, so I think that

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Speaker 1: I think we're all picking the Broncos here, But it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be insane if the Charger woman were there. The

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Speaker 1: team of a t L, the team around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We love the Chargers this season. There's no reason to

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Speaker 1: think they can't. What's so funny our hearts are into

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Speaker 1: We're already sneaking out the back door and going down

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Speaker 1: the alley. We'll be a break. Who else gets away

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Speaker 1: from pressure better than Philip Rivers I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: love the little pocket rocket Brandon Oliver. He jumping around

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Speaker 1: like Frank Gore. That's my comparison. Basically, he's basically three

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Speaker 1: games and he leads all rookies in rushing yards. Right,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of this Frank Gore compared to

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Speaker 1: think he reminds me more of Maurice James Drew ten pounds, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can see that ten pounds lighter, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of power and a lot of that hopping. He always

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Speaker 1: finds the whole. He kind of waits weights and somehow

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Speaker 1: season That's will be interesting to see what happens when

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Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews comes back. What uh what they'll be doing

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Speaker 1: with that backfield, because obviously Oliver has proven himself. But

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not gonna pick him. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna pick the Chargers. Come on us, come on, no

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Speaker 1: way to it. But the Chargers first. The Bronco It

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Speaker 1: was better last year than any team all three games.

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Speaker 1: They essentially controlled the pace of play, even in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did a good job playing keep away and there

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Speaker 1: are more weapons for rivers to throw to this year.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Royal is playing very well, kind of shockingly, Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Floyd has been a big factor. Gates is playing better.

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Speaker 1: They can maybe still do that keepaway strategy if they're

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Speaker 1: good on through downs. To your point, Peyton Manning's career

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Speaker 1: passer rating fourteen points less against John pagano defenses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: since Pagano has got into San Diego, he is six

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Speaker 1: and six against the Chargers, which is kind of shocking

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Speaker 1: to me. That's a shocking stat. Here's to me, the

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Speaker 1: key to the game. And we saw it on Sunday

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Speaker 1: team early and all of a sudden, you look up

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Speaker 1: after half a quarter and it's one to three or

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Speaker 1: fourteen nothing or something like that. The Chargers have done it.

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Speaker 1: They can keep this thing close through a half and

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Speaker 1: they keep the balls. Were saying, control the ball. They

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Speaker 1: know how to win this game. They know how to

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Speaker 1: beat this team. We need them not to get the

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Speaker 1: blown doors blown off in the first Is it possible

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Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning playing at this Leagusier said than done.

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Speaker 1: I just think the Broncos defense is so much better

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Speaker 1: this year too. Al Right, guys, here we go, So

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Speaker 1: Chris westling Man, you do such a great job with

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Speaker 1: these lists. I'll tell you, I just get these. Are

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Speaker 1: you have never read one of these? One? That's what's

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Speaker 1: called Dan buying time as he finds the right And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what position Power rankings is what they're called.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't seem to be quite positional anymore,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you this. It is presented by

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Speaker 1: Lenobo sponsored the Banner Reads, presented Greg So. I had

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Speaker 1: it right initially a great friend and we know that

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Speaker 1: right off the top. And and you're doing them proud

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Speaker 1: because you're delivering great content. This week it is ten

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Speaker 1: players that Chris Westling believes deserves deserves to go to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Well, balloting started on Sunday, so it's

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Speaker 1: timely company, man, if you're feeling dot com to me,

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Speaker 1: I I enjoyed doing this series. But for me, it's

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Speaker 1: never about the actual ranking, which maybe that makes me

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Speaker 1: the worst person to do it. Fans like to talk

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Speaker 1: about the numbers where they're where they're actually ranked. For me,

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Speaker 1: it's always been about the analysis and shedding light on

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Speaker 1: how certain players are playing. So this is a perfect

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Speaker 1: opportunity for me to do that. Ten players who you

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Speaker 1: should at least consider for the Pro Bowl because these

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Speaker 1: guys are more under the radar, they've never been to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl or they're not like household names, well

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Speaker 1: except for you know, Jason Pierre Paul. But he's coming

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Speaker 1: back from Jason Pierre Paul, coming back from two seasons

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Speaker 1: where he was no good. I didn't know. Just so excited.

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Speaker 1: You're like up they opened up a Lenovo product. They

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get into and to use it. You

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get into this list. This isn't breaking

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Speaker 1: bad or something. It's been on the site hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of fans of Chris Wesley. They've already read it anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we'll start at number one, because yes,

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Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson is your number one player who deserves a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Not I'm pretty stunned he has not been

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl yet. It's an outrage. Got he's

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Speaker 1: gotta Goes of the year. Where is he by? Because

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver rankings, if you're making I know you

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Speaker 1: did one earlier this year West ranking the wide receivers correct.

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Speaker 1: I believe the summertime Greg and Mark shared boring while

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Speaker 1: I was out of tenn Okay, great so anyway, we

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Speaker 1: all thought Calvin Johnson was far and away. Our producer

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Speaker 1: TV said that Calvin Johnson was gonna have seven and

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Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns this year. It's not working out. He's hurt

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Speaker 1: for the second straight year. So it kind of opens

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Speaker 1: up the debate a little bit. Who's the best wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and Jordy Nelson. You can make a case for

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Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Well, I don't Calvin Johnson is the best receiver.

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Speaker 1: But if you're talking about whose place the bet Blues

547
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: played the best this season, if you want to say

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, that's fine, but I'm taking Jordy Nelson is

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in the NFL through seven weeks. DeAndre Levy,

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Speaker 1: the Detroit lines linebacker, is number two. Why Levy was well,

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Speaker 1: he was robbed last year. He was he was up

552
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Speaker 1: there with Thomas Davis and Lavonte David is the best

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Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL against the pass and this year

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Speaker 1: he's been awesome against the run. I think he and

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Speaker 1: Sue are the two stars on the number one rated

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. Number three Vante Davis and the

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Speaker 1: Colts cornerback. Famously, a famous Hard Knocks scene was where

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Speaker 1: he got traded to the Colts by the Dolphins, and

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Speaker 1: he uh interrupted Jeff Ireland to see if you'd call

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Speaker 1: his mother or grandmother to talk to her. This man

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Speaker 1: has grown up. He's a grown boy now and he's

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Speaker 1: making plays in the second feel so far removed from

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Speaker 1: the rest of American society because I was in the

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Speaker 1: nine thirty meeting today and that same exact story was

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Speaker 1: brought up about his mother or grandmother or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: I I had no idea like to atend you guys

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Speaker 1: to the different meetings around the corporate like things around

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Speaker 1: the NFL offices, there are a lot of fun I

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Speaker 1: have to say, Well, I think Vonte Davis he's on

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Speaker 1: here because the Colts are surprisingly good defense. They've turned

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Speaker 1: up some press pass pressure and they they're not They're

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Speaker 1: getting off the field on third downs, they're not allowing

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Speaker 1: third downs. And the reason why they've been able to

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Speaker 1: send so much pressure is because Vonte Davis and Greg

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Speaker 1: Toler are very good press man corners. Who can you

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Speaker 1: allow them to take two guys away and send the

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Speaker 1: rest at the quarterback right, They're gonna give up some passes,

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Speaker 1: but you have to give Ryan Griggs in a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit now for that Vonte Davis trade. I think

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Speaker 1: it's worked out, and and for Toler, who was a

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Speaker 1: free agent that no one thought was going to be

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Speaker 1: that big of a deal from Arizona. And that those

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Speaker 1: two guys are kind of the lynchpins of their secondary

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Speaker 1: and I will name of those are the top three

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Speaker 1: on West Less here the here's fourth through ten, And

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Speaker 1: we can just throw out any thoughts we want, because

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Speaker 1: that's all we do around here. Greg Olsen Panthers tight

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Speaker 1: ended four JPP of the Giants. Has he not been

589
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Speaker 1: to Pro Bowl? He's had, yes, But this is it's

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Speaker 1: not just guys who haven't been to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: What's he's coming back from two years where he's stunk.

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Speaker 1: No one's really noticed how well he's been playing. Golden

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Speaker 1: Tate lines wide receiver also known as one of Greg's

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Speaker 1: uh and his stable of boys Golden tapes that I

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Speaker 1: claim we had a scientific debate. I admitted that I

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Speaker 1: lose track of your boys stables. That sounds wrong. Wesselyn

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Speaker 1: had a lables best free agent bargains. We need to

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Speaker 1: move on from this line of discussion right now. Um

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Speaker 1: best Bargain's list Back in March number one on the list,

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Speaker 1: Golden he I mean he has made I think a

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Speaker 1: bigger difference in terms of his team winning and losing

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Speaker 1: games than maybe any receiver in the league. You can

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Speaker 1: throw a couple of drops in there, but no one's

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Speaker 1: made more game changing any free agent in the league. Sure,

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Speaker 1: he's been one of the best signings. Who knows. I

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Speaker 1: mean you could say he's should be higher on this list.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to play two receivers to Okay, you

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Speaker 1: gotta get him. He is a Pro Bowl player right now.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams. Nice to see him there. M m. Number seven.

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Speaker 1: Someone should represent that Buffalo Bills. He's the best Williams

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Speaker 1: on their defensive line. He's certainly gets paid less than

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Speaker 1: the other one. But Mary Williams is a player too.

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Speaker 1: But Kyle is just a guy that he said the

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Speaker 1: most dominant game by a defensive tackle I've seen all

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Speaker 1: year against the Chargers. In the game the Chargers won,

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Speaker 1: but Williams just toyed with their interior lineman. Alright eight

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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith of Minnesota, Rolando McClain Comeback Player of the

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Speaker 1: Year candidate Cowboys linebacker at nine and number ten uh

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Speaker 1: the the charismatic punter for the Indianapolis called the Electric

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. I put him on there just for your sake.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious and a great pudge his Well, you said

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Speaker 1: the best, by the way, the best defensive line plays

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Speaker 1: you know, by far, and it's not even close. Been

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Speaker 1: watching football like twenty years or so now. The best

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Speaker 1: on side kick in the history of on side kicks

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Speaker 1: was the one he did on Thursday Night Football against

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Speaker 1: the Texans. He had to kick at ten yards. He

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Speaker 1: kicked it ten yards and three inches and then recovered

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Speaker 1: his own kick. Was brilliant. He has three on side

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Speaker 1: the only punter I've ever seen with a celebration every

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Speaker 1: time he makes a good punt. Now, I know you've

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Speaker 1: heard my theory, Chris on the beef between Kansas and

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. Maybe I'll throw it by TD and and

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Speaker 1: see if he agrees with that. Dan. You know Dan

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Speaker 1: works here. Pat's on NFL am quite a bit, and

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Speaker 1: what Dan season. Pat is a guy kind of encroaching

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Speaker 1: on his funny man for the NFL media news group territory,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't like that. Dan is from New York.

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Speaker 1: You know they, you know all they are very competitive gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: So I think you're right, you all into something. There.

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Speaker 1: M just gonna's gonna put it out because let's just

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Speaker 1: let's face it, McAfee is going to have a podcast

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Speaker 1: someday here t D will be producing it. I'll be

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Speaker 1: ignoring our podcast for it. Probably. I think Pat McAfee

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Speaker 1: is a great talent in this industry untaps and when

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Speaker 1: he's out out of the game as a punter, I

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Speaker 1: would welcome him to the Media Umbrella for their record

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Speaker 1: play bying that theory. Thank you. I think there's I

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Speaker 1: think there's another reason. What I'll tell you off the

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Speaker 1: air byway, I do you have to have one problem

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Speaker 1: with your list? Harrison Smith gives up too many plays.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I watched the Vikings play, they're hitting a bomb

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Speaker 1: and Harrison's on Harrison Smith side of the field because

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Speaker 1: he runs up gives up too many I've seen that

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Speaker 1: happen once. Alright, Okay, let's wrap it up moving forward.

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Speaker 1: We will close out today's show with really a conversation

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Speaker 1: that started in written form as I said on our website.

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Speaker 1: We did a post trades we'd like to see. The

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Speaker 1: trade deadline is on Thursday, so tomorrow time next Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Cool good info by me. Next Tuesday is October is

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Speaker 1: a trade deadline. So we each of us for around

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Speaker 1: the NFL throughout a trade we'd like to see, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily and I very rarely dip into the comments section

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Speaker 1: to see what's going on over there because it's usually

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Speaker 1: human in sewers scenario. But I will say this that

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Speaker 1: people who were upset about some of these trades just

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Speaker 1: really upset. They didn't I haven't checked the comments, but

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Speaker 1: then you didn't get it, you know. Really that's and

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's it's it's something that's just stuff

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see, maybe not realistic, but fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: So let's maybe play a new game. And I will

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Speaker 1: give Chris Westling props. We were brainstorming downstairs. Oh we

675
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: got it's a fun way to get into this game

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00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: type thing. People like gamess. You came up with wife

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Speaker 1: like games. Well, it's a trade scenario, so it's which

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Speaker 1: team says no, who says no? Who says no? West

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Speaker 1: were Well, I was thinking if we can get uh

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Speaker 1: t D. I was thinking if we can get um

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Speaker 1: some women singers nineteen fifties like Chantels. If we could

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Speaker 1: actually get the Chantel's, that'd be good if they're alive,

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Speaker 1: and we could go who Says No? Something like that,

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Speaker 1: get more. It was one of my news drops months ago,

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Speaker 1: and it's from the Planet of the Apes and movie

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Speaker 1: when Caesar first talks in the first movie, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: definitely yeah, we got who is No? I like that. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's not Caesar from the Planet of the Ape six,

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Speaker 1: Planet of the You're gonna need a bigger plan, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll start. I'll start so to make the who says No,

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Speaker 1: it's not just throwing out a trade an actual trade.

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Speaker 1: The parameters of the trade have to be out there.

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Speaker 1: So I will start with Johnny Manziel, Cleveland, Brown's quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got an extension coming to Brian Hoyer

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Speaker 1: potentially if he doesn't lose to the Raiders this week.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna want to do that and make it

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Speaker 1: nice and clean, and they gotta get rid of the

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Speaker 1: first round pick. Now, the Browns known to make decisions

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Speaker 1: on a on a whim. They're gonna send They're gonna

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Speaker 1: offer or the Jets call up the Browns and they said, oh,

701
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Speaker 1: we got we got Percy Harving, now we're excited about it.

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Speaker 1: Got Eric Decker, we got Chris Ivory in the back field.

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Speaker 1: We've got some pieces. Now, now we just need a

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Speaker 1: quarterback to tie it all together. Gino Smith can be

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Speaker 1: a backup. Let's try to get Johnny Manziel from the Browns,

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Speaker 1: and we'll give the Cleveland Browns a number, a second

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Speaker 1: round pick in draft. And if that's not sweet enough,

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it out. I'll say sixteen draft a conditional

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Speaker 1: second rounder that becomes a first rounder if Manzel plays

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Speaker 1: the Jet snaps next season. Who says no, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this conversation never happened. The Jets aren't giving up a

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Speaker 1: second round pick for a guy who couldn't beat out

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer in August. Well, that's not exactly what the

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Speaker 1: situation was, though it's exactly what the thing wasn't purely

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Speaker 1: on play with that. It was always a situation where

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Speaker 1: the Browns were trying to establish that they were in

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Speaker 1: control of the situation. No, ran Hoyer left that door

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Speaker 1: wide open, and they were waffling for a little while

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Speaker 1: on who was gonna be. Manzel had a clear opportunity

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Speaker 1: to take it, and Hoyer played terribly in August. He's

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00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: played better during the season, but Manzel, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: easy to forget that in August everybody was trashing how

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Speaker 1: poorly he played. But then you're essentially saying that Johnny

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Speaker 1: Manziel is shot as a prospect in the NFL based

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00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: on I'm saying his trade value is shot until he

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Speaker 1: shows something. I think the Browns say no because this

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: is a pick. I think that probably came from on

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Speaker 1: high in their organization, or at least it was an

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00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: organizational pick. The city is excited about him. He's a

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Speaker 1: first round pick. No one thought he was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler right out the gates, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're far from wanting to give up. So even if

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Speaker 1: john Zick, you know, woke up out of his slumber

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Speaker 1: and returned returned to call within a few days, I

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Speaker 1: think they wouldn't want to wouldn't want to. It makes

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Speaker 1: us think that Manzel is gonna have a better career

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Speaker 1: than Gino Smith. Well, it's it's a hunch that they're

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Speaker 1: asking us. I'm saying the Browns think that I don't

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Speaker 1: think they've given up on Johnny. No, I'm just asking Dan. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's a huge it would be a

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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: huge gam buy the Jets, and it would be potentially

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Speaker 1: asking for outright disaster to bring Manzel to New York

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Speaker 1: City or close to New York City, and that could

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00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: blow up in their face. And as I fear with

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: all Jets moves that they will eventually go wrong, this

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: would just be another in the long line. But it's

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00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: just fun and Jess to need a quarterback. Though. Do

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Speaker 1: not get sucked into Geno Smith playing well in New

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Speaker 1: England on Thursday. He's way too inconsistent. We've seen what

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00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: we've seen. He's gonna be good sometimes and awful sometimes.

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: You gotta find someone better and more consistent than Geno

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00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Smith and Savior tweets. We don't really think Johnny Manziel

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00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: could get to the Jets. I'm actually gonna give Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling the password to my Twitter account and the A

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Speaker 1: t L just to block everyone that I'm staying in

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Speaker 1: on on Friday and Saturday night, because that's more fun

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00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: than I could possibly have elsewhere. All right, who says, now,

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: west you're when we play this game. We have to

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00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: remember that general manager's value draft picks like Scrooge McDuck

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: values his vault. So McDuck analogy in the off season,

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00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: and then on like draft day, they'll just trade things around.

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Speaker 1: They don't really care anywhere. Here's two thirds and the

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Speaker 1: fourth for whoever Darren Sproules goes for a special teamer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, all right. So Larry Fitzgerald has basically

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Speaker 1: been banished from the Cardinals offense. Bruce Arians hates him,

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Speaker 1: car Carson Palmer ignores him. He's the best receivers generation.

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00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. So since they have Michael Floyd,

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Speaker 1: Andre Ellington, John Brown, and FitzGeralds do twenty four million

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Speaker 1: salary cap number next offseason, Cardinals might be losing him. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: he solves the Patriots outside receiver problem, move him back

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Speaker 1: to the X receiver, which he used to play in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: They kind of moved him to the slide. Patriots give

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Speaker 1: up a sixth round pick and a conditional third rounder

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Speaker 1: that goes to a second rounder if the Patriots win

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Speaker 1: the a f C says, I'd say the Cardinals say no,

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00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: just because they don't want to face the fallout the

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Speaker 1: Patriots signed. Sign them up. Sounds great. Wait, second round pick,

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Speaker 1: what did the Patriots have to take on whatever? They'll

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Speaker 1: just take Rosie Dowling or something with that pick and

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00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: that option next year. No, they can just cut him,

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00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Well they I don't think. I don't think you do

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00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: it for a rental. The Patriots have uh more room.

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00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: They can be flexible, move some cap money around. I

784
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: think if you do it, you do it with the

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00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: idea that Fitzgerald is going to be there for three years.

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Speaker 1: Why don't they just wait? Wait out this season? The

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Speaker 1: Patriots wait till the Cardinals cut them and then just

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Speaker 1: sign them. How many Tom Brady is another year older another,

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Speaker 1: You're closer to the end. But you're gonna if you

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Speaker 1: trade for Fitzgerald. This is why I think the Patriots

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Speaker 1: say no, They'd be giving up draft picks and and

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Speaker 1: and I think that trying to get him up to

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Speaker 1: speed in the middle of the season it might not

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Speaker 1: be something where they could drive immediately. I'd rather wait

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Speaker 1: and get him and make one last push for both

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Speaker 1: guys next year. Well, you're not sure that the Cardinals

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00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: are gonna cut him. The Cardinals could restructure it's heading

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Speaker 1: in that direction, though, doesn't it. I don't know. They

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Speaker 1: love him there. I like this move. I like just

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Speaker 1: sending more superstars, especially in offense to the Patriots. And

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Speaker 1: what are the Patriots gonna do, you know with their

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00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: second round picks anyways? Draft Aaron Dobson or Rosi Dowling

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Speaker 1: or Bethel Johnson or something. Just go get go, get

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Speaker 1: a veteran Chad Jackson. All right, your turn, Greg Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is the whole trade is laid out in our article.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned six trades we'd love to see. I

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Speaker 1: think it has a vanity U r L. Did you

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00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: mention that one? No, I didn't. I didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I wish I knew it off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: We'll get back to that. That's a bad job. People

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Speaker 1: don't even know what a vanity r L is. And

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Speaker 1: then on top of you don't even know what it is.

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: Come on, boss Jake Cutler coming off disappointing performance. Chicago

814
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: fans are annoyed. My Mark Trestman not feeling good about

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Speaker 1: that contract that his front office gave Cutler in the

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00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: off season. They say, whoops, We're sorry. They send him

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00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: to Tampa for Josh McCown who's already done great in

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Speaker 1: Mark Trustman system, and they'll throw in Mike Lennon so

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Speaker 1: that they can have a nice young arm to develop

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. The Chicago gets out of Jay Cutler's big contract,

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Speaker 1: Tampa's got all sorts of cap room. Cutler would be

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback they've had since maybe Doug Williams, even

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Speaker 1: if he's only average. Who says no, this is a

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Speaker 1: people If people have accused you of being crazy for this,

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00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I think you might be a mastermind. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I think Trestman, if I remember correctly met with Mike

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Speaker 1: Glennon before the draft two years ago. I think Trestman

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Speaker 1: is a big Mike Glennon fan. We know he likes

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Speaker 1: Josh mccowny had him last year. Josh mccownt's numbers were

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00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: better than Cutler last year, much better. Seventeen million pretty

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Speaker 1: much a year guaranteed. So Tampa needs to spend that

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00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: money somewhere. It's got all that capri. You know what.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of the old famous and if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it before, find it on YouTube. When um

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Speaker 1: the Girl from melrose Place was on Conan O'Brien and uh,

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Speaker 1: Norm McDonald was sitting there and she was doing a

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Speaker 1: Carrot Top movie, uh chairman of the board. And Norm

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Speaker 1: kept on interrupting her while Coner was trying to be

839
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Speaker 1: nice and and was just embarrassing her about you quit

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Speaker 1: Melrose Place to do a movie with Karen Top. And

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Speaker 1: then at one point he he steps in it into Jecks.

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Speaker 1: He goes, uh, you know what they should call the

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00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: movie box office poison? And the girl, I wish I

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Speaker 1: remember her name, she was just like mortified. Well, Jay

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Speaker 1: Cutler is Lombardi Trophy poison. Everybody knows. By now that

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Speaker 1: everybody knows, the football world has to know. The Bears

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Speaker 1: got sucked in. Why would why would the Bucks? Why

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Speaker 1: why would the Bucks want to take on Jay Cutler

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Speaker 1: and they become the team that has to deal with

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Speaker 1: waiting forever for that promise to happen. It's just not

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Speaker 1: I love this answer because people who read this article

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Speaker 1: probably thought the Bears would see it right. Everyone said

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Speaker 1: that this was crazy, that the Bears would never trade

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Speaker 1: Cutler away. Here's why, because I went back through the

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Speaker 1: archives looked for the leading passer of the Buccaneers franchise,

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Speaker 1: in their history each year? Who are the Buccaneers quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: ever that have been better than Jay Cutler? Brad Johnson

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Speaker 1: for a year, Josh Freeman, give me a break. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the list. It's maybe it's probably back to Doug Williams.

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Speaker 1: He had a pretty good run in the they weren't

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Speaker 1: winning games, but he was terrible. He was okay, he

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Speaker 1: was okay. The football world has to be catching up

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Speaker 1: with what the fans have already had by now though

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Speaker 1: that Cutler is not gonna win you super boys. Throw

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Speaker 1: it deep to Vincent Jackson and Evans and maybe it works.

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Speaker 1: Do you wanna Do you want me to let you

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Speaker 1: inside the mind of a Bears fan? Yeah? So, my

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Speaker 1: buddy A J. Lives on Tybee. If you go to Tybee,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of listeners have told me they've

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Speaker 1: been to Huckapoos since we've talked about it. Go to

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Speaker 1: Sunday Cafe for lunch. Aj is the owner and head chef.

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Speaker 1: Huge Bears fan. Here's what he texted me this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Trustman is losing the locker room. Don't think he's an

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Speaker 1: NFL head coach. I know it doesn't help that you

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Speaker 1: have a QB, but he chose him. It's about to

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Speaker 1: get ugly. We're through for six years. M that's this

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Speaker 1: And that's similar to what Kevin Patro, Chicago correspondent and

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Speaker 1: said that Cutler just just really draws just the madness

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Speaker 1: out of people that he's frustrated by the faith by.

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Speaker 1: Like Courtney Thorne. Smith is the Melrose Place actress that

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Speaker 1: got normed on Conan O'Brien. I liked her in Summer School.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very underrated movie that no one's heard of

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Speaker 1: that listened to the podcast. Here's the vanity of the

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Speaker 1: U are out NFL dot com slash dream trade scenarios.

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Speaker 1: Dial that one. Though I didn't come up with that.

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Speaker 1: That is catchy. I'll tell you what alright to be

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Speaker 1: mentioned on NFL Total Access, will we be name dropped? Well,

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Speaker 1: they'll say around the league, around the NFL. Becuse. One

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Speaker 1: time a tweet that I had they got read allowed

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Speaker 1: on the air, was not used because they couldn't pronounced

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Speaker 1: my last name. I've been working here almost five years. Well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta step up your profile, do better work, be

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Speaker 1: like Vernon Davis and get concentrated on your brand, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's it for today's editional to be around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. We will be back tomorrow night where

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Speaker 1: we will recap the Thursday night football matchup we talked about,

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Speaker 1: and then we will go into Sunday's games and preview

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Speaker 1: every game on Sunday as we do every week. Uh

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Speaker 1: so get ready for that. Thanks for listening. This is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansens signing off for the Mailman, the Boss and

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Speaker 1: the Great t D behind the Glass until Thursday