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Speaker 1: Good day, superld. It's Wednesday, July third, twenty nineteen. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning into the Free Agents podcast. You found it.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and congratulate yourself. I'm Jay Skeets alongside me

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Speaker 1: a man who I've missed, oh so dearly. Haven't seen

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Speaker 1: him in like a week. It's past mellus.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Huh been too long man? You've changed your beard, got longer, yeah, differently,

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Speaker 1: got nice ten finally making all this magic happen live

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Speaker 1: from his basement here in Atlanta. It's JD back to

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Speaker 1: the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Wow, we have completely come full circle now, the three

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Speaker 1: of us recording an NBA podcast in JD's house.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's how we started back in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: Here we are now in twenty nineteen, because it's just

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Speaker 1: the three of us here today for the new Free

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Speaker 1: Agent's podcast. Trey is up in Illinois wearing Puka shell

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Speaker 1: necklaces and doing high platform cannonballs. Guys, getting risky with those.

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Speaker 1: Lee's over in London, England. I think is that right?

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Speaker 1: Keep tractably pretty sure. He's in London, England enjoying the

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Speaker 1: BJA life, bon Jovi, Billy Joel concerts and Mattie Owell.

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Speaker 1: He's here in Georgia. He's just got tired of us.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just he's trying to get a dog

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Speaker 1: out of his pool area that happened recently. He's probably

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Speaker 1: talking the management. So it's just the three of us.

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Speaker 1: The OG's here, tasks, JD and myself. Here's what this podcast,

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Speaker 1: It's a team by team look at every reported move

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Speaker 1: a free agency. We're gonna discuss the moves they've made,

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Speaker 1: maybe players they've lost, and sort of grade their overall

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Speaker 1: off season direction, talk about what they did. Mae Testin

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Speaker 1: I disagree on some of them. Who knows We're gonna

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Speaker 1: find out. We haven't talked about this in advance, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get it all down. So we obviously have tons

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Speaker 1: to talk about. But first again, it's it's about two

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern here the NBA still awaits word of what

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is going to do in free agency.

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Speaker 2: This is a blast. I'm literally watching Kawhi Leonard step

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Speaker 2: off of an airplane in Toronto on the tarmac and

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Speaker 2: now we're I'm hot JD. It is like we're back

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Speaker 2: in yere one. My mic is super hot. Yeah, Kawhi

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Speaker 2: Leonard is walking off a plane. Where is he going?

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Speaker 2: The helicopters are following him as he travels down the

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Speaker 2: highway in his suv? What a blast this is?

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is like OJ type material. Here.

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Speaker 1: We have helicopters following these cars, which we believe one

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Speaker 1: of them contains Kawhi. We don't know that for a fact,

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Speaker 1: but everybody thinks that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like there was a man limping off

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Speaker 2: of the airplane. It was very much a Kawhi limp walk. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it looked like him getting into one of the SUVs. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And so what he is He's going to go to

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Speaker 1: a hotel. Yeah, he's going to a hotel in Toronto

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Speaker 1: to meet in theory with what messiusierie Bobby Webster in

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Speaker 1: the Raptors organization and sure and have his final meeting.

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Speaker 1: We know he's had his meetings in la with I

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Speaker 1: he had his meeting with the Raptors in California.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this is the second meeting. What is happening?

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Speaker 2: It's July third and there's meeting. There's still meetings happening.

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Speaker 2: I imagine he is meeting with somebody. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's hanging with Drake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, this is like, it is funny

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Speaker 1: because of course we're following, so we're trying to follow

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Speaker 1: gonna wait. We were waiting, we were waiting, we were

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Speaker 1: waiting to do this. You know, all this news started

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Speaker 1: breaking on June thirty of Free agency news, of course,

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Speaker 1: and then the first and the second there's been a

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Speaker 1: million moves that we got to get to and signings

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Speaker 1: and all that. But we were like, ah, people, we

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Speaker 1: just wait for Kawhi. I felt like it was coming

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Speaker 1: today July third, you know, after we heard that the

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Speaker 1: gonna do it before the fourth, then we'll be good

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Speaker 1: though it's July three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely feels like it's been a long time.

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Speaker 2: But July fourth is pretty historic for guys signing Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprising if he goes to till July fourth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: definitely seems like forever. But Kawhi Leonard's going to take

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Speaker 2: his time, that is undoubtable. And yes, we're literally watching

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Speaker 2: the highway. But I don't think anyone should be surprised

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Speaker 2: by that. Raptors fans are buck nutty for their team.

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Speaker 2: because apparently reportedly that's where he'll be meeting Raptors Brass. Now,

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't sign with the Raptors, this is the

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Speaker 2: time that we will see a riot. There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: be It would kind of be expected of Raptors fans maybe,

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Speaker 2: you know, to turn it up a notch. Today.

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Speaker 1: Twitter is going crazy too with the helicopters and this

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Speaker 1: across Twitter and all that, because people are now saying well,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, isn't this what Kawhi doesn't want?

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Speaker 1: This like next level attention, Like you're hurting like people

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Speaker 1: are like you're the Raptors are hurting themselves here now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he should just say, hey, turn this plane back

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Speaker 2: and turn around, go to San Antonio if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want the attention. Yeah, he's gonna go play in Los

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Speaker 2: country behind him. I don't buy that. Yes, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: he's he is part of an industry where there are fans.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what that's gonna happen is it's a celebrity culture,

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Speaker 2: submurty lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think the good out far outweighs

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Speaker 2: the bad. If you were signing with the Toronto Raptors, do.

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Speaker 1: You think because of this? Because of him? Obviously it

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Speaker 1: feels like he's in Toronto now taking these meetings. Is

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Speaker 1: this a good sign for the Raptors or is this

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Speaker 1: just you know, the next little step in what he

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Speaker 1: a decision like do you I guess, do you think

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Speaker 1: this is like helping the Raptors' chances of retaining him here?

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Speaker 2: No, no, No, I think I think it's that. I

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Speaker 1: His first time he's been a free agent. I think

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Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, so I guess he signed a quick

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Speaker 2: I do find that, yes, he's he's meeting with Magic apparently,

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Speaker 2: he didn't watch magic in his heyday. He may have

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Speaker 2: grown up in the LA area. He did and maybe

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Speaker 2: been influenced as a kid by the lore of the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: because he wants to be in la I just don't

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Speaker 2: know the Magic thing plays all that much. Drake probably

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's I mean, this is like, it's

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Speaker 1: it is. It's like Magic and Lebron versus Jerry West

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Speaker 1: out and said, yup, I'm staying with Raptors or I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think that the Clippers are third because

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Speaker 2: And no, no disrespect to Daniela Gallinari, but when he

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Speaker 2: came to Toronto, the two questions that he asked Messiougeri,

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Speaker 2: as Messiougeri has has stated recently and in his postseason

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Speaker 2: press conferences, were what are we doing with this roster?

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Speaker 2: And are you staying with the team? And so the

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Speaker 2: Clippers may have had a meeting, but they struck out

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Speaker 2: on Jimmy Butler this offseason. And yes, it's Daniela Gallinari,

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Speaker 2: either la Or and the Lakers, I assume, or running

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Speaker 2: it back with this with this Raptors team, which could

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Speaker 2: be a short contract. I don't think that's out of

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Speaker 2: the question. I know the reports are he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to sign a short term deal because he's had some

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Speaker 2: injury woes in the past and wants to guarantee to.

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Speaker 1: G That makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't disagree with that, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I think he would be a guy to

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Speaker 1: He said they will riot, possibly Toronto, if he does

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Speaker 2: Are you going a plus plus? Really?

429
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?

430
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes. Now that they signed absolutely everybody that

431
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 2: they could, they have established a franchise and a culture

432
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: that would allow these guys that, you know, force these

433
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: guys to look at them and to think about going there,

434
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: because they've been opposite of the New York Knicks in

435
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: the way that they've slowly built up a culture and

436
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,959
Speaker 2: built up a team and a practice facility and all

437
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: that that they want to be there. So yeah, maybe

438
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: you take off a plus because they signed DeAndre Jordan.

439
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: And that's a little bit of a confusing move. You

440
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 2: got Jared Allen there, Why are you signing DeAndre Jordan?

441
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if Vire Jordan took to get because you

442
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we're going to take a little bit

443
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: less money. That's the other thing here, Katie and Kyriere

444
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: taking a little less money, yeah, to give to their buddy.

445
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: And DeAndre Jordan maybe he is. Listen, if you're playing

446
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: one game, you probably want him over Jared Allen. I

447
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 2: guess maybe this season he said, maybe a tiny bit

448
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: better of a basketball player.

449
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: It's tough to say with DeAndre Jordan because was he

450
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: just mailing it in for the last twelve months or

451
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 1: is he actually still have something left, you know? Or

452
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: is he was he sort of completely washed because it

453
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: was a bad season for him. But was that just

454
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: because he didn't care?

455
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible, and he'd probably he's going to be

456
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 2: a good locker room guy no matter what. I imagine

457
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: Jared Allen, if he ends up starting over him at

458
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 2: some point, I think that's fine. The question is this season.

459
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 2: Is Kyrie Irving good enough to lead this team without

460
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant around in his second iteration here as a leader,

461
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: as a number one guy on a team.

462
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: That's why I don't go a plus plus. I have

463
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: to be honest. That's why I'm sure I'm an A

464
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: plus or even an A because the Kyrie question is

465
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: still fair. He's gonna get another chance here to be

466
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: a leader with no KD there for that year, to

467
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: lead a team that now is going to be you know,

468
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't think people are gonna say, oh, they are

469
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: title contenders right away with no KD for a year,

470
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: even though I have some I have seen some people

471
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: say that like they're immediate contenders a low the role

472
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: on that they're not immediate contenders without Durant.

473
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

474
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: But Kyrie gets his chance here and can he and

475
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: and can he really salvage his you know, reputation a

476
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: little bit here as this as not you know, a

477
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: cancer in the locker room or a guy that can't

478
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: lead or just you know, complete weirdo and that people

479
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: check out like it works for a month You're like, oh,

480
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: this guy's so exciting. He says all these fun, fascinating things,

481
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: and it's like exciting for like a couple of weeks

482
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: and then you're like, this guy's just crazy, Like this

483
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: isn't Is this an act or is it not? But

484
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: he's got to, like he's got to bring it here.

485
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like, Okay, okay, this is this

486
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: is amazing. You got Katie and Kyrie a couple other pieces,

487
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: but woo, I mean, could you could you can squint

488
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: and see how it could go bad, especially with the

489
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: rant returning from injury as well. We were assuming he's

490
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: going to be just Katie of old when he comes back,

491
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: and that's we shouldn't really be doing that with an achilles.

492
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I think, but as you said, this year,

493
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 2: it's there's not a whole lot of expectations. So if

494
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: we're just looking at nineteen twenty, I mean the expectations

495
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: in Boston were a lot higher. So they made the

496
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: second round in Boston. If they were to do that

497
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, I think you got to be pumped. Y.

498
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: It's a good season.

499
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they went from conference finals to second round in Boston.

500
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, when Kyrie became their number one guy, So

501
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: it was a disappointment. But this team, yeah, even without

502
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, Garrett Temple, DeAndre Jerond great locker room guys

503
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: you add in to be added in with Jared Allen,

504
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: Joe Harris, a great shooter, Kyrie Irving, a money shooter.

505
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: Around Kyrie Irving, there's enough. There's enough there to be good.

506
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: And Wilson Chandler's brought in probably for that same reason

507
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: to be a good locker room guy.

508
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

509
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: That's it's a real real I don't think they messed

510
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: that up. You know. The good thing that Brooklyn had

511
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: going for them was that they had great camaraderie. I

512
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: don't think they messed that up because they brought in

513
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: some really good guys.

514
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: No shock that Kyrie picked Brooklyn in the end. The

515
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: writing had been on the wall for what felt like

516
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: weeks leading up to the June thirtieth, you know, free

517
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: agency opening. But Katie still a bit of a shock

518
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: to some that he ultimately picks Brooklyn.

519
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Over the year. You're a Knicks man.

520
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: I was definitely a Knicks man. And then we're hearing

521
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: now reports that you know, the the injury may have

522
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: derailed that because of the possibility, even though it sounds insane.

523
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just spin after the fact, but the possibility

524
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: that James Dolan and the Knicks were hesitant to still

525
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: offer him a max contract because he had the injury, again,

526
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: that sounds insane. I know the Knicks are, but that's

527
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: next level dumb. But yeah, you know, because but that

528
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: could just now be the spin of it all. It's like, oh,

529
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: we didn't get.

530
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: Them, well we were.

531
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: We're a little weird. Worry some of him coming back,

532
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: you know, to one hundred percent are close to it

533
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: because of the injury. But yeah, I thought Nicks, I

534
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Some people think him picking the nets is lame.

535
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that at all? That Katie going to

536
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: the nets is just?

537
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: What's that? What's the angle there? What's the lame angle there?

538
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, people are people are franchise I guess people.

539
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think people are projecting when

540
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: they say that for sure, because a lot of people,

541
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: myself included, are like, we wanted after he went to

542
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Golden State and teamed up with an unbelievable team and

543
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: then took it to the next level and won titles

544
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: and finals, MVPs and all that you wanted him to

545
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: his next chapter at least to be I'm the man,

546
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm the best player in the world. Yeah, Coyle Enard, Okay,

547
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: you had an awesome run, but hey, before I was injured,

548
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I was the best player in the world. And now

549
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: I'll go lead a franchise. I'll and I'll take a

550
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: franchise as at the bottom of the barrel like the

551
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: New York Knicks and bring them back to relevancy.

552
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be a solo act. To be a solo act,

553
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: I guess that's what people wanted. That's fair. I think

554
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: he's doing something. I know it's not the exact same

555
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: scenario as going to Golden State, but it's similar to me,

556
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: and that he's going to play with a guy he

557
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: really loves and Kyrie Irving going, He's going. All the

558
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: stories coming out now, you know, after he decided to

559
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: go to Brooklyn are about Kevin Durant being a great teammate.

560
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: Are about this is team friendship they've built here with

561
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: the Nets. It sounds like with Katie, Kyrie and then

562
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: especially DeAndre Jordan in the mix.

563
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was great friends with Steph and that's

564
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: why he went out and played in Game five there

565
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: in Toronto to try and help his guys win a championship.

566
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: He could have easily been selfish and not played. And

567
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: all these little stories coming out about him loving playing

568
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: with the Warriors. Yeah, this is this is a similar

569
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: thing to me, and that it is team friendship and

570
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: all the admiration he had for Kyrie Irving in about

571
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: his game and how he talks about how there's three

572
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: guys in the world that are extremely special when he

573
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: watches basketball, MJ, Kobe, and Kyrie. And I understand it

574
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: from a basketball perspective. You wanted to see him pull

575
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: a move like people want to see with Klay Thompson,

576
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: see him on his quote unquote own team. And now

577
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: it's not that, but it makes sense that he's in

578
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: another huge city and another great organization, and the Knicks

579
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: probably failed in that regard. They haven't been good enough.

580
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Not on the court, because the Nets haven't been great

581
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, winning anything, but just just

582
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: their organization that probably was was a huge factor.

583
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: It sure feels like it. It sure feels like it.

584
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: And again, unless you believe the idea that the Knicks were,

585
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: like now, we don't want to give you the max

586
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: contract Couzy of injury, which again still sounds.

587
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did. He didn't even take a max here.

588
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: Obviously it's pretty close.

589
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he has decided. I mean, look, we

590
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: saw the footage back at All Star weekend and we

591
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: were everybody's trying to read lips and figure out what

592
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: the heck they were talking about. When it was Kyrie

593
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and Katie in the in the hallway there and then

594
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: he's holding up the two fingers and two max slots.

595
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks he's saying, like is he telling him right there?

596
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: And then and they're like, no, we could do this

597
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn too. They got too too, we can do

598
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: it there, Like that's better or are they saying at

599
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: that point are they saying the NIXT like that's the thing.

600
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: We don't know how much changed here, but it sure

601
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: felt like they wanted, hey, we can figure out where

602
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: we can play together. Not all that dissimilar to you know,

603
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: the Dream Team, the Team USA guys of then the

604
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Heatles meeting up in Miami like deciding this, Hey, where

605
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: can we do this, where can we pull this off?

606
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Let's play together, Let's let's let's dominate on that note.

607
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: I think the secrecy of it all, the way they've

608
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: everybody in the league, every single scenario, Kawhi included, the

609
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: way they've been able to keep stories under wraps, their

610
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: their destinations under wraps, it has been pretty phenomenal. It's

611
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: been so dead silent in terms of leaks from July

612
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: first to July third, feels like to me when it

613
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: comes to Kawi's Kawhi for sure, Yeah and well, and

614
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: nobody had this inkling that Kevin Durant's gonna end up

615
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: on the nets.

616
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: They're just yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, I mean,

617
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: there's gained some steam there and what felt like the

618
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: last couple of days leading up to free agency.

619
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, there's just in a world where everything is

620
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: out there, it's been pretty.

621
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Quiet eight plus plus, says Tass. And then that's tough

622
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: to tough to argument. All right, Sixers were extremely extremely active.

623
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: They just come out change their team. Here they signed

624
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: out Horford four years, one hundred and nine million. That

625
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: it's really like ninety seven million. There's like twelve million

626
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: dollars in like championship incentives, so you know it's a

627
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: it's around four years, one hundred million let's call it

628
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: that that was the mystery team. It was the Philadelphia

629
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: seventy six ers. They retained Tobias Harris five years, one

630
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million dollars that's max. They acquired Josh

631
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: Richardson in the Jimmy Butler four team trade. They retained

632
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: Mike Scott two years ten million, retained James Ennis two

633
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: years four point one million, signed Kyle Quinn won your

634
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Vets minimum, and then Ben Simmons here is reported has

635
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: been offered a five year contract extension by the team.

636
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: They lost Jimmy Butler, who will get to when we

637
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: talk about the heat of course, and they lost JJ Reddick.

638
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: What's your grade for the Sixers?

639
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go okay, because they recovered really well from

640
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. You know, they gave up a huge package

641
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: for him. For whatever reason they decide going forward, we

642
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: don't want Jimmy a part of our team. Now there's

643
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: conflicting reports as to whether or not maybe they did

644
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: offer him a contract. Yeah, he left, but I think

645
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: they recovered extremely well. You bring in Al Horford, and

646
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: you bring in Josh Richardson for Jimmy Butler, who was

647
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: literally the guy that they were rumored to be trading

648
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: for when they were Jimmy Jimmy Butler rumors out there

649
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: at the trade deadline.

650
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: So I think that's when he was with the Wolves

651
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: and there was Wolve's heat talk, right, and it was like, oh,

652
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: will the heat include Josh Ridgson not always too valuable him.

653
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it was before the trade deadline, but

654
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: really yeah, you look at that starting lineup and it's

655
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, Josh Richardson in your backcourt and your forwards

656
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: are who's my small forward I'm missing? Oh, Tobias Harris

657
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: and Al Horford along with Joel embiads gigantic. It's huge.

658
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Now people are saying, well, they're going the other direction.

659
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: They're going big when everybody else is going small. Listen,

660
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is big too. They can shoot. The difference is

661
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: Philolf you can't shoot. That's the question. Will they be

662
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: good enough offensively? I think it's really all up to

663
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid getting in better shape now for all of

664
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: the Hey he was sick talk against the Toronto Raptors.

665
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: I think part of it was he just couldn't play

666
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: forty minutes a game as the number one option. I

667
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: think he's got to get lighter and then all this

668
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: stuff makes sense. Tyas Harris. If Joel Embid's not good

669
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: in the future, Tobias Harris at five years, hundred and

670
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: eighty whatever it is, five years max is not a

671
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: good contract. But if Joel Embid is great, this Al

672
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: Horford contract is phenomenal. This even if it's paid till

673
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: thirty seven, I don't care. It's all up to Joel

674
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Embiid is what I'm saying. Ben Simmons at five years,

675
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris at five years, Al Horford at four years

676
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: and one hundred million, all makes sense if Joel Embiid

677
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: is good. If not, then they fall back a step.

678
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: But but do you think there's more pressure on Embiid

679
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: to sort of go next level or Ben Simmons to

680
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: go next level?

681
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's it's a it's a fair question. I

682
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: think Embiid we know can get there, We've seen it.

683
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, I don't know. Rich Paul is somehow getting

684
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: him a five year max contract extension on being not

685
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: a great player. He's good, very good.

686
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: But great defender obviously a nightmare in transition, you know,

687
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: can fill up the box. Score, but he didn't take

688
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: a shot outside of the paint in twelve playoff games.

689
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: So Rich Paul is convincing that he's going to get better.

690
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I guess what else did I mean? They got to

691
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: give this a go. It's it's a ton of money. Yeah, right,

692
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: that's right.

693
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: But and then Josh Richardson is another guy. I think

694
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid is gonna be good enough to get Josh

695
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: richards in another step, being able to drive and be

696
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: good enough. Horford a step, and Ben Simmon's probably a

697
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: step in. Tobias Harris. Tobias Harris, there's pressure on him

698
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: to be the number one guy on the perimeter really

699
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: as a score, that's that's it's gonna be different for him.

700
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: But him in the third role instead of the fourth

701
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: roll behind Jimmy Butler, he could be there. He could

702
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: be good enough. That's why I give it a n

703
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: A minus. I'm I'm buying in to all these guys,

704
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: especially a great locker room guy in Al Horford.

705
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I buy it championship material here, Yeah you think so?

706
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Second round, Game seven, they lost to Kawhi's shot.

707
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: They're knocking, they're knocking on the door, and I think

708
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid probably understands that he's got to get healthier

709
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: and better, and now they have the ability to sit

710
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: him some games in the regular season. I think they're

711
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: deep enough with Yeah, Kylo Quinn is around, they got

712
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: rid of bowband, good move. Yeah, I think that's enough.

713
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Can they hit shots? Can they hit threes? Is there

714
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: enough of that on this team?

715
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: That is fair?

716
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Because J J Reddick was he scored a lot. I

717
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: mean we think. I don't know, I guess I do.

718
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: I sometimes think that JJ Reddick just as a glorified

719
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: role player. But guys like an eighteen nineteen point per

720
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: game score. I mean, he's pretty consistent.

721
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: He was taking out a bit in the postseason.

722
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That can happen. But the other reason,

723
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest reason why they lose to the Raptors.

724
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, not the quad bounce there because

725
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: otherwise we get overtime in Game seven, but and B

726
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: goes to the bench and they get hammered. The Raptors

727
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: just kill them. So you're right now in theory. You know,

728
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Brett Brown a little staggering here. They're gonna play together,

729
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. You can play Hordford and be

730
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: together be unbelievable defensive team. I think, oh, Josh Richardson

731
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: and Ben Simmons twice, Harre is your worst defender out there.

732
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: But you can put in bed, like you said, maybe

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't even play games in the regular season, and

734
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: even in playoff instances where he can sit, he goes

735
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: to the bench. And now, okay, hord for now you're

736
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: our five, and you're not in theory, You're not gonna

737
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have this huge, massive drop off where

738
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: you just get killed in like those five or six

739
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: minute where it happens, because that was happening in the

740
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Raptors series especially, just got crushed. So it's it's risky.

741
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 1: It's it's risky. But I guess if I believe Jimmy

742
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: Butler was like, I want to go to Miami. I

743
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: love the weather, I love Dwayne Wade, I love their jerseys.

744
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: This is cool, this is me. I want my own team.

745
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: I sort of believe it. I could see the Sixers like,

746
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they have offered him a max deal? We

747
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: saw what he did in the playoffs. He was the

748
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: only guy at times that like would step up and

749
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: take over games for them. They probably wanted him. But

750
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: if he's like gone the man did they recover quickly

751
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: here and what appears to be quite.

752
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: Well, yeahs Frescherson is a pretty good player.

753
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the people are just basically thinking Josh

754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: Richardson is you know Jimmy Butler light?

755
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. He's not a scorer at this point.

756
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he can put the ball in the hole,

757
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: but he's not. You can't rely on him like you

758
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: rely on Jimmy Butler. But I guess Light is, you know,

759
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: a nice.

760
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Great defender, and and and maybe it works better, Maybe

761
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: it works better as sure, you know he's you don't

762
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: look at you don't look at Josh Richardson and going,

763
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: hey man, we're gonna need twenty from you to No, no,

764
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all.

765
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Hey, and now they're expecting me to be their fourth score. Yeah,

766
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: that was Tobias's role last year.

767
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: He needs to hit the threes that JJ Reddick was hitting.

768
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: That's a lot to ask for, yes.

769
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But I've shown that he can can knock

770
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: it down for stretches. All right, Well, let's go to

771
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: the Celtics. Let's stick in the East, hen because let

772
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: me need some Eastern Conference teams making huge moves. They

773
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: son Kemba Walker four years, one hundred and forty one million,

774
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: and it's Canter two years ten million. They retained Daniel

775
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Tice same deal, two years, ten million. Brad Wanta Maker

776
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: He's still there one year deal. Fun fact, Brad was

777
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: the oldest rookie in the league last year, age twenty nine.

778
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: They lost Kyrie Irving, Al Horford, Terry Rozier and Bainsey.

779
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Gotta say Bainsy for Leeley. How do you grade the

780
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Celtics C plus WHOA not the biggest fan?

781
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: Nah? I guess why you would give him a higher

782
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: grade is because everyone expected Kyrie Irving to leave and

783
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: they recover very very well with Kemba Walker. But you

784
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: couldn't convince Al Horford to stay. Why is that? What

785
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get why he would number one

786
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: leave number two? Why you wouldn't pay him the same

787
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: amount of money that he got in Philadelphia. He's a

788
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: great great You're not.

789
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: You aren't worried in the in the slightest of like

790
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven year old Al Horford not being.

791
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's a guy you don't ask a

792
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: lot of to score. He just have to be his

793
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: perfect self, which is you know, getting people involved in

794
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, he's thirty three, so what sign him

795
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: for a few years? I don't know. I think he's

796
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: he's never going to drop off. So you know, the

797
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: if they're gonna go sign Kemba, who's I believe he's

798
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: thirty why wouldn't you want the best player possible? And

799
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: maybe they did, and maybe they but but it doesn't

800
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: seem like they offered al Horford the max. So they're

801
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 2: going to drop off because he was a very very

802
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: key player for them. They were covered well by getting

803
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Canter Uh to be their starting center. But what there

804
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: next year? Their ceiling? I think all depends on Gordon

805
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Hayward and if he can return to Utah for him

806
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: second year back from an injury, but.

807
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Or Tatum suddenly becomes the star that a lot of

808
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: people haven't paid.

809
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: For sure, But if you if you have that ceiling,

810
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: or if you have that those aspirations of having that ceiling,

811
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: I'd want Al Horford on my team. And maybe again,

812
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: maybe they did, but that's why I'm you know, Kemba's

813
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Kema's a great recovery for Kyrie Irving, and maybe he's

814
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: a little bit better off the ball with Jason if

815
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: you're like you're saying, Jason Tatum takes that next step

816
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: and has the ball in his hands more than he

817
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: did last year playing with Kyrie, and Kenva is a

818
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: better shooter without the ball then than Kyrie was. Literally

819
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: he is a better shooter when he doesn't have the ball.

820
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: So they could probably they could still have a very

821
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: good time.

822
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I think people think they look at it too and

823
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: go wow, just the addition, by subtraction and by subtracting Irving,

824
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: this team could get back to sort of maybe what

825
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: they were on their way to be coming with the

826
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: under a Brad Stevens team, just because of sort of

827
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: how you know, how torn it felt like that locker

828
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: room was, and it was by all reports, I mean

829
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: it had. It was ups and downs for sure. Every

830
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: time we wanted to write off the Celtics during the

831
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: regular season, they'd rip off a four or five game

832
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: win streak and couple of the guys would lok good

833
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, they figured it out, and then

834
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: something would happen and then we'd hear all like, oh,

835
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: he wants more vets, guys wants more vets all and

836
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: the Rooks don't respect him and all that and like

837
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: or not the Rooks, but the young kids. So yeah,

838
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: you could just by removing Kyrie, maybe there's like that

839
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: sort of like cloud is lifted from this team. Maybe

840
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: it just wasn't fun to go into to work every

841
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: day with this squad. And maybe that's that's helped out now,

842
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: especially when with a guy like Kemba, who you would

843
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: assume the Celtics fans and that and that organization are

844
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: going to embrace and he gets a chance to actually

845
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: play on a on a team that has any chance

846
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: of making some noise in a playoff series.

847
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: Sure, and Tatum gets back to seventeen eighteen form.

848
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's I mean that you're you're spot

849
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: on with Hayward and whether he can get back to

850
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: that level that he was with it with Utah on

851
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: he was a great player. A lot of people forget

852
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: how bad he was by the way markis Morris sounds

853
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: like he's signing with the Pistons. He's got to get

854
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: back to that level. But Jason Tatum, this Tatum has

855
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: to go. He's got to become like that borderline super

856
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: bower line like all Star Tatum, the twelve time Tatum,

857
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: like a twelve time All Star, twelve time Tatum, as

858
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Ben Gulliver calls him. He's got to get there, like

859
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: soon soon if the Celtics are going to really like

860
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: open some eyes and challenge the Box or the Sixers

861
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: or maybe or maybe the Raptors with Kawhi still we

862
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: don't know for them to be on that level. I

863
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: think he has to go to that next level.

864
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: That's fair, right, and we will.

865
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Say and it definitely possibly could. He's like, what, well,

866
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: kid's super supero.

867
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: He is extremely young, and he is he just seems

868
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: like he needed to be in a more predominant role,

869
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: and right it was tough for him, I guess, to

870
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: adjust from being the number one option he was the

871
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: number one option when they went to the conference finals,

872
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: to not being the number one option. But maybe that

873
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: was just being part of being a kid. And maybe

874
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: he bounces back. I was I thought the best package

875
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis would have involved Jason Tatum over anything

876
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: from the Lakers, and I still do. He's really great,

877
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: So maybe the c plus is a mistake on my part,

878
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know. If you have a championship team,

879
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: I'd rather have l Horford over Ennis Cantor or whoever,

880
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: because really what happened was, you know, you mentioned all

881
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: the sort of the smaller names, but out Irving and

882
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: Horford in Kemba and Cantor to me, really is what

883
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: really matters on this team.

884
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Well, let's quickly just address the Hornets, because they got

885
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys I said that left, Terry Rozier.

886
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: They acquired him in the sign and trade three years,

887
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: fifty eight million. They lost Kemba, Me, Lamb, Frankaminski, Tony

888
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Parker retired, what's.

889
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: The D Charlotte.

890
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was waiting for that.

891
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be kind, D might be kind? Huh.

892
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I agree? Kemba Walker said he would have taken less

893
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: than the Max to stay there and.

894
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: Right obviously up for the super Max that was in play.

895
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Instead, you get nothing for him because you didn't trade

896
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: him away at the trade deadline. You just let him

897
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: walk now and you signed Terry Rozier instead on Kemba,

898
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: why not sign him keep a guy who has been

899
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: with your franchise forever and then maybe down the road,

900
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 2: I think you can trade him. He's a great talent,

901
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: and maybe not. Maybe at thirty in four or five years,

902
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: depending on the contract, maybe he is untradeable. But you're

903
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: not going a good You're still not a good team,

904
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: and you probably overpaid Terry Rozier, you know, nineteen million

905
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: a year probably.

906
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Terry Rozier screams and this being kind maybe screams

907
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson two point out of me, Like, yeah, he

908
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: was the guy's coming off a disappointing season. First off,

909
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: Terry Rozier. He's like nine points a game and shot

910
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: thirty nine percent. He's not a great shooter. He really

911
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: made all this, you know, and they're banking on that.

912
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: He goes back to twenty seventeen eighteen Terry Rozier, where yeah,

913
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: he had a he had a good playoff run there.

914
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: He put together a pretty good string of games and

915
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's scoring like sixteen points per game and

916
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: they got to that Eastern Conference finals and he looks solid,

917
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: and that's what the Hornets are hoping in a lead

918
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: role he can give them. But I think he's going

919
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: to he's going to get points, like this team is bad.

920
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: First off, this team is just horrible, and they got

921
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of bad contracts and eventually those will, you know,

922
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: dry up and they will be off their books and

923
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: that's great and then they can start over again. And

924
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: not like they hit on anything in the draft anyway,

925
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: they never do. But he's gonna get points, He's gonna

926
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna like, he'll probably be like a twenty point

927
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: per game scorer. But it just won't be. It ain't

928
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty, is what I'm getting out here. It's

929
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be efficient. Yeah, and then I, I guess

930
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: I sort of questioned him as like your point guard leader.

931
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: I don't know that's fair. Baby proves me wrong. I

932
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: like him. We've had on the show back in summer.

933
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: I really liked him. Makes a weird spaghetti ranch sandwich,

934
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: but I could go for one of those right now, hungry.

935
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting paid for a couple months in twenty eighteen,

936
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: in that postseason run total. That's totally what he's getting

937
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: paid for. We've seen some historical examples of guys who

938
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: get paid for a little playoff run that doesn't work

939
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: out too well. I'm with you, and what happened in

940
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: that playoff run. Was that he had help in terms

941
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: of the offensive load. You know, Jason Tatum was taking

942
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: a lot off his plate, Jalen Brown was taking a

943
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: lot off his plate, and he looked good and his

944
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: percentages were good. I don't think he has that support

945
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: in Charlotte with Nicolo batoum Michael Kidd, Gilchrist, it's not

946
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: going to be the same look. So yeah, I think

947
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: they should. They should get ready to be a little

948
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: disappointed in Charlis.

949
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: Could the Hornets be one of the worst teams in

950
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: the league next.

951
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, yeah, I think so.

952
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I think it's in play.

953
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kemba kept him afloat. Yeah, and as I look

954
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: through this list of thirty teams, yeah, they're probably near

955
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: the bottom of your son's e's.

956
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it. You slipped it in there when

957
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: you said if the Hornets knew this was coming like

958
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: this whole like, Hey, we're gonna have to give him

959
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money in order to keep him, because

960
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: it's not like we've proven to him like oh wow,

961
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: we just build such a great team around you and

962
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: make all these playoff runs. They would barely even get

963
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: in there. We're gonna have to pay Kemba Walker a

964
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: lot of money before the deadline. And if you knew that,

965
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: then why didn't you try and get anything back? You know,

966
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: not Terry Rozier in a sign and trade to save

967
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: some face so you have a point guard. It's like, like,

968
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: what what did you think was going to happen?

969
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: And why not sign him now instead of giving nineteen

970
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: million to Terry Rozier per year? Sign him to thirty

971
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: and then maybe you can trade him. The Lakers could

972
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: be a destination if they said on Kawhi, I think

973
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: they would probably trade for Kemba Walker.

974
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they didn't trade him at the deadline?

975
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: The Lakers would trade Kemba Walker for but anyway.

976
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Do you believe they didn't trade him at the deadline

977
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: because they had the All Star Game? There's some people

978
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: believe that. It's like, you know, he's the face of

979
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: the franchise and he's he's an All Star. He's great,

980
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's such a great representative of the community.

981
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: It's possible. Also, I think they just wanted to take

982
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: a run at the eight seed and they're like, oh,

983
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: well we're in the mix. Hey, sure, we won't get

984
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: there without him, we trade him, we're not going to

985
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: get back enough.

986
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: And the trade deadline was so short. It was just

987
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: moved ahead of the All Star Game, right, mm hmm.

988
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: It used to be after, so they could have pulled

989
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: off both once once.

990
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: It's posible. I wouldn't put anything by the the MJ

991
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: led organization there. It's Oh, it's bleak. I apologize to

992
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Hornets fans, but it looks very bleak to me. I

993
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: mean just because they they need some, I mean they

994
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: are to pray that some of even these picks that

995
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: they do have on the roster, it can give them

996
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: something because it's just you see the odd flash and

997
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: then that's it.

998
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Now, there's got to be some d's keets. Yeah, gotta

999
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: be some, right, all right.

1000
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks retained Chris Middleton five years, one hundred and

1001
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: seventy eight million, Retained Brook Lopez four years fifty two million,

1002
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: signed his twin brother Robin two years using their full

1003
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: room exception. Retain George Hill three years, twenty nine million. Yes, retain, retain, retain,

1004
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: signed Wesley Matthews one year at the Vets minimum. I

1005
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: know Tass is happy about that. You probably gave this

1006
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: an eight plus plus because they signed Wesley Matthews. You

1007
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: love his game so much, but they lost Malcolm Brogton

1008
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: and Nikola Miritch is off to Europe. Shocked to shock

1009
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: some people there deciding not to play in the NBA

1010
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: any longer.

1011
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: This is neat. So what are you read like this team?

1012
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: It's it's in the b family, Okay, missing Losing Malcolm

1013
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: Brogden is definitely a hit. He was great in the

1014
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: in the regular season. He's your fifty forty ninety guy

1015
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: starting beside Eric Bledsoe. Will they regret keeping Eric bletso

1016
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: over him in the long run, possibly, but as as

1017
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: long as Yannis gets better, and I do believe he's

1018
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: going to get better. Trey has said he's going to

1019
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: add the hook shot, which probably would have killed the

1020
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: Raptors if he had any semblance of a hook shot.

1021
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: If he has a shot within five feet. Did all

1022
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: this prognant talk, I think is nullified. I think that

1023
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: goes out the window, and you replace him with Wesley Matthews.

1024
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: I imagine Wesley as your starting shooting guard now, and

1025
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Robin is solid in a backup role. Yeah, I think

1026
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: I think it's they're running it back essentially, essentially brognant

1027
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: for for Wesley Matthews plus Robin in for Nikola Miritich.

1028
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: As you said, I think you got to be pretty pumped.

1029
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: I think they're probably the regular season favorite in the

1030
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, if even if Kawhi is in Toronto.

1031
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Just because continuity and the little and the little pieces

1032
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: around the corner.

1033
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: And ye, this is young y. I think he's getting better.

1034
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in a they were in a tough spot

1035
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: because they almost had to keep these guys. I mean

1036
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: you also, you're you're looking ahead, you to keep you

1037
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: on as happy. You want to eventually lock him up

1038
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one when he's up for a possibility

1039
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: of his Supermax So you know, you want to keep

1040
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, even if you maybe are overpaying for him,

1041
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, is Chris Middleton a Max player? I

1042
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: don't think so, but I understand why you have to.

1043
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's closer. I'm more comfortable with that contract over

1044
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: Eric Bloodsoe's contract that they Okay, that's that they extended

1045
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: him to earlier this.

1046
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: Season, right, they maybe have jumped a gun on that.

1047
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's possible.

1048
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: But then we were arguing. I remember arguing that Eric

1049
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: Bludsoe was maybe more of a deserving All start at

1050
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: the time. I know he flamed out in the playoffs

1051
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: like he always does. But around the All Star selection

1052
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: we were debating, is it Middleton or is it Eric

1053
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Bloodsoe that deserves sort of that second spot from the

1054
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Bucks because they had such a great record and obviously

1055
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: we're probably deserving of two guys. In the end, it

1056
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: was Middleton.

1057
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a better player. Middleton is a far better

1058
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: play He can shoot the ball, yeah, and you get

1059
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: and he was clutch in a lot of situations and

1060
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: anti clutch at times, but I can score. Yeah, I agree.

1061
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not a max though, Brook Lopez, you were

1062
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: always gonna have to pay him. I mean he was

1063
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: on maybe the best deal in the NBA last year

1064
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: from what was he three million I think he got

1065
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: and what he was giving them and how important he

1066
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: was defensively and then being able to stretch the floor

1067
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: and hit threes around your honest, so you knew he

1068
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: was getting the payday four years fifty two. Okay, twin

1069
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: brothers there, that's great high comedy. I love it Robin

1070
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: and Brook on the same team.

1071
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: They should be hilarious. But and Lopez's Twitter account is

1072
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: on fire in the last few days.

1073
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, he's he's great, But it is this,

1074
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: It is I think you're right, it is it. Are

1075
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: you going to regret, you know, letting Brogdon go? And

1076
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: we should point out they did get picks back, you know,

1077
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: so they did did well there to get some some

1078
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: return back because they had given up some picks before.

1079
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: But they got a few. They got a future first

1080
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: and then a couple of second rounders back for Brockton

1081
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: from the Pacers. But will you regret sort of keeping

1082
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: the Bloodsoe and sort of running back with George Hill

1083
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: instead of maybe a Brockden. I think that's fair. But

1084
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: Brogdon has injury concerns and it's a lot of money,

1085
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: as we're going to get to here in a second.

1086
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: With the Pacers for four years, eighty five millions, it's

1087
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And then your small market and

1088
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: you're getting into the luxury and all that. So we're

1089
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. But they basically decided just to

1090
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: run it back as much as you possibly could, and

1091
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: that's what they did. You think they're the favorite still

1092
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: in terms of regular season in the Eastern Conference. You

1093
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: think so, you think this is a sixty win team again, Yeah.

1094
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't see why not. Outside of it, I mean

1095
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: Malcolm Malcolm, Yeah, I believe in all their guys. All

1096
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: their guys are good players, and they've made maybe you know,

1097
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: we're ragging on this Eric Bloodsoe extension somewhat, you know,

1098
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: questioning it somewhat, But on the whole, they just make

1099
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: great move after great move after great move to shed

1100
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: a lot of salary, to trade your John Henson and

1101
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: your Matthew Delvdova and your Tony Snell, you know, four picks.

1102
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: And I totally forgot that they got picks for Malcolm

1103
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Brogden because there's just too much to keep track of.

1104
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: But that sign and trade was a smart move. They

1105
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: make great, great moves. John Horst has made some phenomenal moves.

1106
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Is one of the gms in the NBA. I like

1107
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: pointing that out because he's under forty just like me.

1108
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: Sort of creeps me out when I see some of

1109
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: these young gms. Yeah, baby, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know

1110
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: one that always shocks me. Bobby Webster.

1111
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: Bobby with the Raptors.

1112
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: You never talked about Bobby Webster becase it's always Messiah.

1113
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: But Bobby's there.

1114
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Bobby's the GM, Bob Webster you seen him. I'm good.

1115
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: He just looks like one of these young looking guys like, yeah,

1116
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm in control of an NBA team. Yeah, we just

1117
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: want a championship.

1118
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Hawaii, Bobby Webster.

1119
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: Well, that's why it looks great. All right, let's go

1120
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: to the Pacers. Then they got Malcolm Brockton. It was

1121
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: that signing trade, four years, eighty five million, A couple

1122
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: picks going back to make it happen. They signed Jeremy

1123
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Lamb three years, thirty one point five million. They reached

1124
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: an agreement with Edmund Sumner on a three year deal

1125
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: after declining his team option last week. You know that guy, Edmund.

1126
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: Nope.

1127
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: They acquired TJ. Warren in a in a trade on

1128
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Draft night, and then they lost Darren Collison who retired.

1129
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I was joking about Nikola Miritiz surprising people

1130
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: going to Europe. Darren Colson just straight up retired.

1131
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: That's a real Maya more move to uh to.

1132
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: I guess focus more on his on his religion. He's

1133
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: Jehovah's witness, so he's focusing on that. He's out of

1134
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: the league. Darren Colson, he's like thirty thirty one. Yeah,

1135
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: they lost Thaddius Young, Bugdanovic, Corey, Joseph Tyreek Evans. Don't

1136
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: forget about him. He's suspended for at least two years.

1137
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: So that's who's out there from the Pacers. But brogged

1138
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: in Lamb you know, TJ.

1139
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: Warren.

1140
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, Edmund Sumner, what do you think? What's

1141
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: the grade for the Pacers?

1142
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not popped about this, Okay, interesting, I.

1143
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: Feel like the Pacers have gotten a lot of love

1144
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: here in the last couple of years. It's the Jazz

1145
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: in the West and the Pacers in the East for

1146
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: the moves they made.

1147
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: You're not that I'm worried about it. There's okay. The

1148
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: first locker room change is three starters gone. You're Thatteus Young,

1149
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: Darren Collison and Boy and Bogdanovic.

1150
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: Yep, that's tough.

1151
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, the locker room changes over. But

1152
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 2: at a locker room led by Victor Aldipo and Malcolm

1153
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: brogged In Myles Turter, maybe it don't have to question

1154
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: that fair A lot of good dudes in that locker room.

1155
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: But who's going to score? I understand. TJ. Warren can

1156
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: put it in the bucket. He is your classic guy

1157
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: that you'd never think about, but he can put fifteen

1158
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: twenty on the on the board. Brogden can also put

1159
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: it on the board to replace Boyan, who's you know,

1160
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: their biggest score that they left, So that left, I

1161
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: should say, and Jeremy lamp can also score.

1162
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's are those pieces enough to make

1163
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: up for your uh yeah, you know you're bugg dono itch.

1164
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: And yeah you guys just yeah, there's guys just do enough.

1165
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: Guys last year they just did enough to get them by,

1166
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: and sometimes they couldn't score. You know, I'm saying, who's

1167
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: gonna place her scoring? Sometimes those guys cann't score. Yeah,

1168
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: especially in the postseason.

1169
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: But you know, without old people. I mean that's the Yes,

1170
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: the huge cabage. Yes, expected back, possibly earlier than we expected.

1171
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: You know, So maybe it's fine. Maybe it's a sort

1172
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: of a lateral move here. Maybe I guess I guess

1173
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: that could be the case.

1174
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: You think it sounds like you think, even when Oladipo

1175
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: was back in the mix, that the Pacers are still

1176
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: like that second tier in the East. They're a good team.

1177
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: They're a playoff team.

1178
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: Somebody's got it. Somebody has to. Last year, I thought

1179
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: they could have been an elite team. Somebody has to

1180
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: take another step and that that somebody's probably Myles Turner

1181
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: for them to be top notch.

1182
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: Right, Oladipo, you got Sabonis, you got Turner, and then

1183
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: you've got all these new moves. I think the Jeremy

1184
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Lamb was a nice little He played well in Charlotte.

1185
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: He was the second best player in Charlotte.

1186
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: Is that more about Charlotte and more about Germany?

1187
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Not saying a lot, but he can give you a

1188
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: little bit scoring. It's really what Malcolm Brogden gives you.

1189
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: Zach Harper I think is right. When Oladipo returns. I

1190
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: saw him write this that you can picture Brogden as

1191
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: sort of that off the ball option, as like a

1192
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: super Patrick Beverly, Like he's gonna give you defense and

1193
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: he can hit open shots. He's the fifty to forty

1194
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: ninety guy. Everybody knows that he's super efficient, that he

1195
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: just works. It could work really nice nicely with Oladipo.

1196
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: I buy that.

1197
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: I like that.

1198
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: I think he's a complimentary player.

1199
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a very very good player.

1200
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: But for them to go to the next level at

1201
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree, Sabonis and Miles Turner just need

1202
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: to become better basketball players. And they're great. They're on

1203
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: their way. I like both of them.

1204
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to be a good team. They're

1205
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, four or five ish Brogden

1206
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 2: I just I wonder, can you expect him to be

1207
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: as good as Boy and Bogdanovics in terms of scoring.

1208
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: I know it's nobody cares about Boy and Bogdanovic all

1209
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: that much, but the guy when people.

1210
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Went down, Yeah, he didn't phenomenally. Yeah.

1211
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: I love Malcolm. Brock is a great dude, and I'm

1212
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: glad he's getting paid and he does a lot of

1213
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: great things off the court, and uh happy for him.

1214
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 2: Four years eighty five, he said, Wow.

1215
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: You ever had a Jehovah's Witness at your door here

1216
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood.

1217
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: Jays, I have, really? Absolutely?

1218
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't.

1219
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: I was not expecting that answer. No, I've never had it.

1220
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm in an apartment.

1221
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they come every few weeks, so I just tell

1222
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: them that fuck right.

1223
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: Oh geez, What are you doing that you couldn't talk

1224
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: to them for a second.

1225
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm busy, I'm podcasting.

1226
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. The Miami Heat, they acquired Jimmy Butler

1227
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: and assign and trade four years, one hundred and forty

1228
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: two million. Jimmy wants to play in Miami. Jimmy's gonna

1229
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: play in Miami. They also acquired Meyers Leonard in that

1230
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: four team deal. They lost Josh Richardson and Hassan Whiteside

1231
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: who goes to Portland. So not a lot here, not

1232
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,479
Speaker 1: a lot. But Jimmy a star player. What's the great?

1233
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: Not a lot. Not a lot of action on my end,

1234
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: not a lot of highs, not a lot of lows.

1235
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: It's a C for me. Okay, this is not gonna

1236
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: be a great team.

1237
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Really.

1238
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be very similar to last year. And

1239
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: they might lose Goring, dragage. They're going to lose some

1240
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: parts because of their financial situation. They're gonna have to

1241
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: trade somebody. So yeah, to me, it's is it like

1242
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: the Bulls and Jimmy Butler as their number one guy

1243
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: with Dwayne Wade and Rajon Rondo a couple of years ago,

1244
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: they might be a seven eight seat. That's what it

1245
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: feels like to me, Jimmy Butler's as your number one guy. Uh,

1246
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: especially when your two three four guys aren't exceptional. It

1247
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: feels like it's. Yeah, it's a sort of a running

1248
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: back of last year with Jimmy, who wants to be

1249
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: as you said with your with your Jimmy lines, he

1250
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: just wants to be the guy. That's what it is

1251
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: he does. I don't think he cares about winning as

1252
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: much as he leads on. He just he wants to

1253
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: be the number one option. Nick Fodell pointed this out

1254
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: a guy who covered Jimmy Butler in Chicago. Let's just

1255
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: drop the facade. You want to you want to be cool,

1256
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: You want to be you wanted to be. He's a

1257
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: great player, but he also wants the other stuff that

1258
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: comes along with being a celebrity, and he ranked he

1259
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: values that. He values he values the stroll on the

1260
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 2: South Beach with the glasses, the shades and the look.

1261
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: And that's fine. But he had a better chance of

1262
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: winning at Philadelphia. Figuring it out in Philadelphia and again

1263
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: mixed reports. Did they just give him the boot and say, hey,

1264
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, go down to Miami and hang out there.

1265
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I think they would have kept Jimmy

1266
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: around and he had a much better situation there. So

1267
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: when Jimmy Butler is at the end of this contract thirty.

1268
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: Four, uh, you know, his legs still work exactly exactly.

1269
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: How many how many more? How many? How much more

1270
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: can you expect from Jimmy? But you can expect him

1271
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: to carry a team. How you were surprised that I said,

1272
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be that good. They're not going to

1273
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: be that good.

1274
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: No, no, look, they're not gonna be competing for a title.

1275
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: But but you know they do have a star player.

1276
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: Now we can't I mean whether or not, you know,

1277
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: winning is the most important thing to Jimmy Butler. We've

1278
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: seen the guy. He can ball out, especially in a

1279
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: playoff series. We we just witnessed it where he can be,

1280
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, with a lot of talent out there, the

1281
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: best player on the floor at times. So you're gonna

1282
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,479
Speaker 1: be happy about that. You're always gonna happy about getting

1283
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: a star player, an all Star caliber player in a offseason.

1284
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: We should point out that the heat, we're not going

1285
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: to be able to do a whole lot because they

1286
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: just because of their books. There just wasn't like, yeah,

1287
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: pat Rally, can you know notoriously get a meeting with everyone,

1288
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: But well, we just can't pay you anything because we've

1289
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: tied up all these money into some of these crazy

1290
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: contracts and they got off the white side one and

1291
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: it's expiring now in a year, so who really cares.

1292
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: But they's they backed themselves into a corner with some

1293
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: of their signings. I think we can agree with that.

1294
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: So Riley gets Butler, you get the star. He should

1295
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: pair perfectly. You have to admit with the mentality of

1296
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: this Miami Heat team, this sort of with their training

1297
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: staff and just this just let's go to work. Let's

1298
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: go to work. Let's be the fittest team out there

1299
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: and just kill teams through fatigue sometimes and exhaustion. Is

1300
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: run him into the ground because we're just better fit.

1301
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: That works. Well, that's what Jimmy likes. He doesn't like

1302
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: when the coaches take it too easy on him in

1303
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: prior's spots, So Spolstra and that meant that Heat Riley

1304
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: sort of like we're dogs mentality that that sort of

1305
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: makes sense to me.

1306
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, it's fine.

1307
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Now will when some of the bad contracts, get off

1308
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: their books. Will he be able to draw a second star.

1309
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler cannot be the best player. I don't think

1310
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: on your team you're gonna need another guy and then

1311
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: pieces around them to really contend.

1312
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: Well. Then will Jimmy Butler get then get pissed if

1313
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: he's not the that's right, that's exact, that's right. If

1314
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: they can reel in uh, I don't know.

1315
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: That's the dance that you have to do with him.

1316
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: He wants to be the guy and he loves it.

1317
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: But I'm so you're not, like Fredell says, you're you're

1318
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: not gonna win anything with Jimmy Butler as your lead dog.

1319
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: And so him and he can help lead the pack,

1320
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: but he can't be the lead dog.

1321
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wants to be that, and so I

1322
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: don't see much changing. They also lose Josh Richardson, who's

1323
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: a really good basketball player and and and did a

1324
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: lot for that team. So yeah, you're right, Him and

1325
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: Justice Winslow and guys like who who want to grind

1326
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: it out and James Johnson could be fine. They they

1327
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: definitely can get get into the playoffs. But you know,

1328
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's an easy road in the

1329
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. I don't know why. Maybe it's just because

1330
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: it's time to be positive here and maybe they can

1331
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: squeeze in, that's for sure. But there's a lot of

1332
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: good teams in the Easton. I don't know, there's don't.

1333
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't see this four years going all that well,

1334
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: maybe the first year or two.

1335
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, out of respect for Jesus and Marrow and worldwide,

1336
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: wob and Ben Lyons, I've waited until what about an

1337
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: hour in here to talk about the Knicks, but we

1338
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: gotta talk about the Knicks. Now.

1339
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: Here's what they've done A plus.

1340
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: They signed Julius Randall three years, sixty three million dollars.

1341
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: They signed TODJ. Gibson two years, twenty million dollars. They

1342
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: signed Bobby Portis two years thirty one million dollars. Signed

1343
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: Reggie Bullock two years twenty one million dollars. Signed Wayne

1344
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Ellington two years, sixteen million dollars. Signed Elfred Payton two years,

1345
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars. Lost dere Jordan lost hisnia, possibly lost

1346
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: their dignity and their pride. Yeah, it went very quickly.

1347
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: From from Zion Williamson Katie and Kyrie to Julius Randall,

1348
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: who I like and I think a lot of people like,

1349
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: and then some other power forwards and some other shooters

1350
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: and Alfred Peyton who's having another chance at being sort

1351
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: of a star point guard or a lead point guard.

1352
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: I should say, what do you grade this?

1353
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna be positive. Okay, okay, okay, So

1354
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: guys don't come there? What are you going to do

1355
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: about that? Right? I mean that's I think that's on

1356
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: the management.

1357
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Convince your owner to sell the team, is what you

1358
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: try to about it.

1359
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to have a better organization. I'll go

1360
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: B plus Wow, I know.

1361
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, the reason we're alone in this I've seen this

1362
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: sort of meant to outlor this feeling about what the

1363
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Knicks ended up with being not atrocious.

1364
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: It's not. They're not making the playoffs at all. But

1365
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: they didn't commit money to guys, even though you said

1366
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of names there al for Payon Toash, Gips

1367
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: and Waite out Yeah blah blah blah. The only guy

1368
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: they signed long term past one year.

1369
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: Right, Because a lot of these are player options, it's one.

1370
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Plus an option for Peyton, Gibson Ellington, yep Portois Bullock

1371
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: and then guaranteed money to Julius Randall. That's it for

1372
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: long term. So they're basically in the same spot next year.

1373
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: If they want to be in exactly the same spot,

1374
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: which is, dump all these guys and we can sign somebody.

1375
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: Will anybody come there? No? Maybe not further So.

1376
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: There's barely anyone in the twenty twenty class unless they're

1377
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: going to be signing maybe Demato Rosen or Andre Drummond. Okay, yeah, okay,

1378
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: So now when I say it out loud, I can

1379
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: see happening.

1380
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be good for a long time. But

1381
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: in this offseason, I don't think they handcoff themselves. And

1382
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: they got a bunch of tradeable guys too. People want

1383
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: shooters in Wayne Ellington and Reggie Bullock, so maybe they

1384
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: can get a pick or something for them, you know,

1385
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: when inevitably they're going to be in twelfth in the

1386
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: Eastern car But the unfortunate thing is they didn't. They

1387
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: weren't a dumping ground for some of the bad contracts

1388
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: out there, as you see, like teams like the haw

1389
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah or Andre Goadala go to the Memphis Grizzlies gets

1390
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: a pick attached to him because you have to give

1391
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: give something to drop something off. Well, the Knicks had

1392
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: all that room and they did nothing with it, including

1393
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: getting draft picks, which would have really helped.

1394
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: Right, they could have taken on like that veteran salary

1395
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: and then picked up draft picks along the way, like

1396
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: these squads.

1397
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: Are that they didn't.

1398
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, than Nicks, right, and so we applaud them on. Hey,

1399
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: at least you didn't sign these very mediocre players to

1400
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: longer than possibly a year. Right, that's how that's how

1401
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: low the bar is. That's a good job. You didn't

1402
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: lock in Bobby Portis to a four year, seventy five

1403
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: million dollars deal. You didn't Joe Keem Noah him.

1404
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: That's the bar.

1405
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that is the bar. You're right. They actually

1406
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: have some players now, at least like actual players that

1407
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: most people know whether or not they're all going to drive. Yeah,

1408
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They I'm making a playoffs, but they

1409
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: should be editor. They're gonna be a little it'll be

1410
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: a little scrappier under David Fizdale with some of these guys,

1411
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: especially especially a lot of these guys are gonna look

1412
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: at this is like, you know, hey, only the Knicks

1413
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: wanted us, so to speak, and we couldn't even get

1414
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: longer than we couldn't get a two locked in your

1415
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: deal here, So with something to prove is what I'm

1416
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: getting at. Like there's gonna play with a chip on

1417
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: their shoulder. I think a lot of these guys now

1418
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: whether you can make that all work, you know, team setting,

1419
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: good luck with that.

1420
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: But I'm only tuning in for r. J.

1421
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: Barrett myself, right, Okay, And you don't think any of

1422
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: this like takes away from from the young guns getting

1423
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity be at a Barrett again, A Knox, a

1424
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson, you don't think so, Like you know, you

1425
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: don't worry Bobby Portis is like, hey man, I'm gonna

1426
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: punch you if you don't give me my shot.

1427
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, test me.

1428
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: I've done it before.

1429
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: It's you know, the the pushing each other is is

1430
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: good for those guys as a general rule, but when

1431
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: it comes to body Bobby Porters, it turns from pushing

1432
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: to punching. And that could be a problem with Mitchell Robinson,

1433
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: especially R J. Barrett's gonna play Kevin Knock's probably gonna

1434
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: play and maybe Mitchell Robson. I think there's enough minutes

1435
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: to go around though, you know, there's two spots. It's

1436
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: the power forward in center ninety six minutes for Bobby

1437
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: and Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randall to play enough, you know,

1438
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: so I'm not sorry. Maybe Tod Gamson turns out to

1439
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: be Eudonnis Haslman doesn't play.

1440
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it feels like they're bringing him to as

1441
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: a bit of a mentor.

1442
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying. They're trying to be the you know,

1443
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: they should try and be at Brooklyn Nets, but they

1444
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: need more. They should be what doing what the Nets did,

1445
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: and that's get some picks.

1446
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. But here's why they're a

1447
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: d because after we we learned that Kyrie is going

1448
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn and Katie is going to Brooklyn, and and

1449
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: and then even after it's announced that the Knicks are

1450
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: signing Julius Randall, Knick's president Steve Mills, he issues a

1451
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: statement in light of the team's free agency news that

1452
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: was going down on Sunday, Like this was hours after

1453
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, the six pm start on Sunday, And basically

1454
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna read the whole thing here, but he's like,

1455
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: we understand Nicks fans could be disappointed with tonight's news,

1456
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: but we're gonna continue to be you know, upbeat and confident,

1457
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna rebuild the Knicks and we're gonna compete

1458
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: for championships. We're gonna do it to the draft, and

1459
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna and our targeted free agency. I mean, that's

1460
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: gotta hurt a little bit if you're Randall or any

1461
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: of these other guys. They ended up siding because the

1462
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: team is coming up and basically saying sorry if everyone.

1463
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: James Dolan went on radio and he's like, we're gonna

1464
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: have a really good, really good offseason. I feel very

1465
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: very confident about this who we're gonna be get. Like

1466
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: that's what he said. I'm not putting words in his mouth.

1467
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: That's what he said. And it built U and like

1468
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: and look, the media is to blame. I get all that.

1469
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: We were starting to run with the Kd's going there.

1470
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he's going with Kyrie, Oh my god, maybe Anthony

1471
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: Davis at one point was gonna go there. But you

1472
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: know they came out. He said, well that whoops, that

1473
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Sorry, but hey, come on, we'll get there.

1474
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: That's that's I can't have ever seen that.

1475
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: That's you don't see.

1476
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: You don't see that.

1477
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: You don't see that. You also don't see an owner

1478
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: come out in February and say, and so I think

1479
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: that was in a response to that, Hey, our owner

1480
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 2: is not making good decisions. We gotta say something. I

1481
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: guess I think that's what it was. You gotta just

1482
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: shut the traps and keep going.

1483
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Because they sign all these two year, two year deals

1484
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: with the team option on the second year, we are

1485
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna go through this all over again

1486
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, right like it's gonna be. They're

1487
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: gonna get they're gonna try and get Giannis, or they're

1488
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna try and get you know, Paul George or even

1489
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there now. They're gonna try

1490
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: and get old Lebron. They're gonna have a good They're

1491
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: gonna try and get old Lebron continue to be bad

1492
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: so they can draft his son. And that's where it's

1493
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna it's gonna happen in New York.

1494
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: Just give us a meeting. Just give us a meeting,

1495
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: right all we need?

1496
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. But yeah, look it's because it's at it

1497
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: does as simple as it sounds. Just feels like a

1498
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are like, I don't want to

1499
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: go play there for this, for this organization with James

1500
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: Dolan as your owner, I don't want to do it. Yeah,

1501
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: And I love and I love how Knicks fans though.

1502
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: I love how quickly like they they'll like they turn

1503
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: it around like they're hoping for Katie. Of course they're

1504
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: hoping for Kyrie. And I love how quickly they turn

1505
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: it around when they don't get there the star player

1506
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: and they go like, they're not built for New York.

1507
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: Those guys don't. It doesn't he if you don't want

1508
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: to come to New organ you're not built for New York.

1509
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: I love that. I think it's so so charming. It's like, Ah,

1510
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: these guys just you know, basically shut the door in

1511
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: our face. Well you didn't. You weren't made for this city.

1512
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: You couldn't take it on exactly. That's what you see.

1513
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: That's what you see. All right. I'm gonna throw a

1514
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: couple more Eastern Conference teams before we jump over the

1515
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: West here at you. I'll give you some of their

1516
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: moves and then you can, you know, stop me if

1517
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: you there's the one you really really want to talk about,

1518
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: or even to throw the grade on the Magic. They

1519
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: kept Vah the Magic kept Vucevic four years hundred million,

1520
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: Terrence Ross four years fifty four million, Michael Carter Williams,

1521
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: and then got Alfa Rucumino three years twenty nine million

1522
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: B minus. So you don't mind it.

1523
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: They're charming. They're a charming bunch, and that's why I

1524
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: like them. There's something about them. They're running it back essentially,

1525
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: and they're bringing in Alfa Rucumino as another guy who's

1526
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: who's sort of like, uh, Jonathan Isaac heavy.

1527
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: They got a lot of big guys, Yeah, like lengthy

1528
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: three four five guys.

1529
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: It is. It's interesting they kept Fooch but yeah, there's

1530
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: something about that. You know, they're over under totals like

1531
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: thirty six and a half their playoff team last year.

1532
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: I think they are going to get better and for once,

1533
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: they had some good chemistry in that locker room and

1534
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: they're deciding to double down on it, which which I'm

1535
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 2: fine with.

1536
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: If which of it's for you know, twenty five a

1537
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: year isn't brutal either. It's not a brutal though. You

1538
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: saw what happened in the playoffs, so that's never a

1539
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: good sign. But they're running it back.

1540
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

1541
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 1: Wizards kept Thomas Bryant three years twenty five million, signed

1542
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas task ann Ish Smith. That's who they've brought in.

1543
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: Got a grade from them, D quick quick D. They

1544
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: didn't they didn't capitalize on Thomas Sataranski and in February,

1545
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: then capitalize on Trevor reza En in February. Just trade

1546
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: the guys and get something.

1547
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: The bulls, he said Sataranski, he's signed with them three

1548
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: years thirty million dollars, signed Fattius Young three years forty

1549
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: one million dollars, kept Archie three years nine million dollars,

1550
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: and they signed Luke Cornett. Bulls grade.

1551
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: Who the heck are these guys? No, that's fine, that

1552
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: is entirely fine. Moves I think.

1553
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: So I can't believe I'm saying this. I always Trey

1554
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: was here. So you're look them in the eye and

1555
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: say that's solid. That's I have no problems with any

1556
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: of them solid.

1557
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: But does it make it a playoff team, or.

1558
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: Well, baby Steps, it's all about it. Used to be

1559
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: the Baby Bulls Baby Steps.

1560
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: Now yeah, it's all about to me. We'll get to

1561
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings. It's similar to me. You're signed good

1562
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: role players. These guys are all good locker room guys.

1563
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: Or Sataraanski and Thattius Young primarily. I'm not that well

1564
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: versed on mister Cornette, but I love his ice cream cones.

1565
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: But the starters have to get better, just like the Kings. Great,

1566
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: it's great you got role players, but uh, the other

1567
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 2: guys you're lowry marketinens zach lavines, have to take another

1568
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: step for them to be good. These are they they

1569
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: you know, it's sort of like the magic I get

1570
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 2: they believe in. They are other guys. I guess is

1571
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: what's happening?

1572
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Detroy Piston signed Derek Rose to your fifteen million dollars

1573
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: and Tim Frasier that's minimum and now and that's it correct?

1574
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: And now was it Marcus or Markif I've already forgotten it,

1575
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: I know I gotta keeps. It's mart Morris.

1576
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: They got a Marquis this is I guess it's It's

1577
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: a C plus for me. At the end of games,

1578
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: it was Reggie Jackson and Blake Griffin trying to make plays.

1579
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: Now it's going to be Dereck Rose and Blake Griffin.

1580
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: What did that? What did that get you? In Minnesota

1581
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: last year? For as far as Derek Rose and Karl

1582
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Townsend just missing out on the playoffs in the East,

1583
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 2: you're in the playoffs right like they were last year.

1584
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: It's totally fine, but it's it doesn't excite me whatsoever.

1585
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing to keep an eye on is

1586
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: Derek Rose. Was that just an aberration where he could

1587
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: suddenly hit three pointers because he hadn't for his entire career?

1588
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: As their line drives and he had a good year,

1589
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: it went he tailed off at the end of the year.

1590
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: If you really dig deep into the numbers, but had

1591
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: a solid year from three. If you can give him

1592
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of shooting to pair that with him

1593
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: driving inside, then okay, then okay, two years fifteen, no problem.

1594
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 1: But does he just go back to you know, basically

1595
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: building houses with the bricks from three? Yeah, which is possible.

1596
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: It's not a really well designed team. Even if Markkeith

1597
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: Morris is chipping in, It's just the same old Andre Drummond,

1598
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: Blake Griffin in your front court and not a great

1599
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: ball handler to do things, and Derek Rose will be fine,

1600
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: and maybe he'll get into the starting line. And maybe,

1601
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: like you said, Reggie Jackson has not worked out there,

1602
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: has not worked out period. Maybe Derek Rose takes over

1603
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: for him at some point, but it doesn't It's not

1604
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: a great formula for me, and Blake's only getting older.

1605
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: And then finally in the East, it didn't really do much.

1606
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: We got the Raptors, Calves and Hawks. The Hawks did

1607
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: acquire Chandler Parsons from the Grizzlies for Solomon Hill and plumb.

1608
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: Lee a plus all three of those. Well, I like

1609
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: the Hawks are doing what the Nets were or the

1610
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: NETS data a couple of years ago, a choir assets.

1611
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: Their highest paid players are going to be Chandler Parsons,

1612
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: Evan Turner and Alan Krabb twenty five.

1613
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: Shout out to twenty sixteen, exactly.

1614
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: All twenty sixteen guys. And you know they traded Solomon

1615
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Hill and Miles Plumbly for Chandler Parsons showed out to

1616
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. That's fine, It's totally fine. Those are their

1617
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: highest paid players. They'll be gone in twenty twenty. They're

1618
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: slowly building. They're slowly building it up. The trajectory is

1619
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: bright is is very good for this team. I think

1620
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: the uptick is it's it's coming for this Atlanta Hawks team.

1621
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: By the way, we're about an hour fifteen in here.

1622
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: We still got Twitter humming along. No word yet on

1623
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. No word on whether or not he is

1624
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: going to stay with the Raptors, go to the Lakers,

1625
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: go to the clips. He's in Toronto. The helicopters are there.

1626
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: It's coming on there. We can't tell if he's loving

1627
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 1: it or hating it. Everybody thinks he's hating it. Maybe

1628
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: he secretly loves it. Yeah right, you know I started

1629
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: to think this a little bit for kind that just done.

1630
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, he never says anything, doesn't like the limelight.

1631
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 1: Well the guy suddenly he's like, he's got New Balance.

1632
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: He's got all these cool looking gear, he's taking all

1633
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: these promo shoots. Look, he's making some money. Don't get wrong,

1634
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: go make your money.

1635
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: The first time anyone has said New Balance is cool.

1636
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: But I think I like some of the stuff.

1637
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm thirty seven.

1638
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think he secretly likes all this.

1639
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I said. Yeah, turned to play

1640
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: around gold in San Antonio. If you don't like it,

1641
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: he played for a small market team. He wants to

1642
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: go to LA I don't think he hates it.

1643
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 1: All right, So we don't know yet. We got a

1644
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: lot to go here still, so maybe we find out

1645
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: by the end of it. All right to the West

1646
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. This this one was, This was I

1647
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: think one of the bigger shocks, no doubt, from the

1648
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: opening of free agency. They acquired D'Angelo Russell in as

1649
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: sign and trade four years, one hundred and seventeen million.

1650
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: They retained Klay Thompson five years, one hundred and ninety million.

1651
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: That's not a shock. They retained Loony three years, fifteen million.

1652
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: They signed Willie Caley, Stein and Glenn Robinson the third

1653
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, and so they lost Kevin Durant, Andrea Goodala,

1654
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Bell, Sean Livingston. Maybe we still don't really know

1655
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: what Sean Livson, I don't think. How do you grade

1656
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: this again? What I think is a fascinating bit of

1657
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: a shock free agency for the Warriors.

1658
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm pumped because it's it's really intriguing that you

1659
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: bring in a guy like D'Angelo Russell to play with

1660
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: Steph Curry. It's so I'm giving it an a just

1661
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: strictly from an enticement perspective. I'm pumped to watch this.

1662
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: I think they only got Dangela Russell because of Kevin

1663
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: Durant picked the Brooklyn Nets and they needed to get

1664
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 2: Apart back. Yeah, that's the part that they got back.

1665
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: So is Daniel Russell going to be their long term

1666
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: Maybe not. But I think Klay Thompson is gonna come

1667
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: back earlier than people expected. There's already, you know, little

1668
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: rumblings about him being healthy to go with D'Angel Russell

1669
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: and Steph Currey. You know, as as you're one, two

1670
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: three s.

1671
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, that's weird. That just like full stop

1672
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: right there. That's weird. But I don't know, it's just

1673
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: because I can't picture it or or what.

1674
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: Because Dan Angel Russell's you know, a guy who wants

1675
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands all the time, and Steph

1676
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: Curry is gonna have to have the ball in his hands.

1677
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: And so they go from a team that never ran

1678
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: pick a roll was thirtieth in the NBA Picker roll

1679
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: to D'Angel russells. That's all he did. But can they

1680
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: convince him? You know, he he agreed to this contract.

1681
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: The guy in assign and trade has to agree to

1682
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 2: going to the team that they're going to, so he

1683
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: understands what's going on. Steph is the guy there, and

1684
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: him and Willy cauley Stein will work perfectly. And that's

1685
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: why I give it an a too, because I mentioned

1686
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,879
Speaker 2: Willie cauley Stein and Glenn Robinson the third they recovered.

1687
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 2: You get Willy cally Stein.

1688
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: And Looney on a super cheap year. People thought he

1689
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: was gonna get way.

1690
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: More than that. They were covered really, really well. So

1691
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: you're second unit. Might you know Russell will be starting,

1692
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: but he'll run with Willie cauley Stein in your pick

1693
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: and roll. That's what Willy cauley Stein does. I'm excited

1694
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: to see how it all, how it all shakes out.

1695
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: They're young, They're very very young. Steph Curry is now

1696
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: the oldest Golden State Warrior, which is which is wild.

1697
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: They're trying to get younger as a challenge for Steph

1698
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 2: and Clay to make work. It's a challenge for Steve

1699
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: Kurr to change his style. This is I think it's

1700
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: gonna be fun for them in a way, and it's

1701
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: gonna be fun for us. And that's why I give

1702
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: it an A. It's an A for us.

1703
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm excited to see, you know, with with

1704
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: no Katie of course, and no Clay for at least

1705
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: a couple of months, you would think yeah and yeah,

1706
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: Dangelo will be there and if they look to move

1707
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: him at the at the deadline, which they could do, yeah,

1708
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: by then I am excited to see like a Steph

1709
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,560
Speaker 1: Curry Warriors team again. Like where it is. It's like

1710
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: when he didn't have Durant, well he was back to

1711
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: back m VP of the league. I mean it was

1712
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: incredible and like Will like he's hearing all this, he's

1713
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: seeing all this. There are people. I just saw an

1714
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: ESPN clip this morning, and I'm not knocking Bobby Marks,

1715
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, he was asked, well, who

1716
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: are the eight playoff teams? He didn't have the Warriors

1717
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and like the great actually wasn't you know?

1718
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: He went through it and you're like, whoa.

1719
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: Like you're right here, drived off all the teams and

1720
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: then you can say, Okay, maybe.

1721
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: Not, but man, you know, Curry and Draymond and then

1722
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: Clay when he's back, they are hearing that, like come on,

1723
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: They're like, are you kidding me? Like you you just

1724
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: got done saying when we didn't even have Durant, we

1725
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: could barely lose a game in the playoffs, that we

1726
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: were like invincible still and now you don't have us

1727
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

1728
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 2: Which is nuts. It is nuts to take what the

1729
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: Gold State wars missing the playoffs. But listen, listen to

1730
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: the teams in Denver running it back. Houston. The Lakers

1731
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: are going to be pretty darn good, the Pelicans, the Thunder,

1732
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: the Spurs are always around Jazz, the Jazz. I mean,

1733
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: it could be the number one seed. The Eicks are

1734
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: going to be really really good. Uh yeah, no, I didn't.

1735
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't list them all. I've got

1736
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: him listed alf I gotta listed alphabetical. So it's really

1737
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: ruining my flow. But there's there could be, you know,

1738
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: ten playoff teams. Again, it's it's not going to be easy.

1739
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: But you like the recovery of losing a guy as

1740
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: talented as Katie.

1741
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, they might not be done

1742
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: done for the season, like they may trade Dangel Russell

1743
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: at some point, but you got your franchise player and

1744
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: Steph Curry and they're not wasting his prime years. They're

1745
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: they're doing something. And yeah, Willie cauley Stein is really

1746
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: is he good? Well, he's a Duncan machine. I mean,

1747
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 2: what's happening is uh DeMarcus Cousins two point zero? I

1748
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: think with Willie cauley Stein, he wasn't getting a contract

1749
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: with the Kings, just like DeMarcus wasn't getting a long

1750
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: term deal. So he's got a one year trial run

1751
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: with the best team in the league and a pretty

1752
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: good team to run around with Kevin Looney. It's pretty

1753
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: pretty good Robinson. People are gonna take everyone would take

1754
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: a flyer on him. I think, yeah, yeah, I think

1755
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm betting on Steph and Steve and Clay.

1756
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah, why wouldn't you?

1757
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: The losing all hurts, there's no doubt. Make to make

1758
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: that all happen, to make the sign and trade happen,

1759
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: and basically totally they had to, and then they're going

1760
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: to make decisions. Yeah, and then they're going to have

1761
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: a decision coming up here with Draymond Green that will

1762
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: be fascinating at his age and sort of his He's

1763
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: a phenomenal player defensively of course, but has limitations on

1764
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: the Offenseven do they lock him up huge money?

1765
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: The situations where these are the two situations I had

1766
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: at hand, run it back Andre good dollars, getting towards,

1767
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: you know, the end of his career here, this could

1768
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 2: be so.

1769
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: He's writing books. You know, you're getting close to that's

1770
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: the shortel sign. Yeah, you're writing books, You're almost done.

1771
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: This is probably his last year coming up, and if

1772
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: he goes to the Lakers, that's a good idea. But

1773
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 2: do you run it back with him or do you

1774
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: give up a couple picks? You give up the future

1775
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: a little bit to probably to optimize Steph's prime, his

1776
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: his last couple of years here in his prime with

1777
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell, which could turn into something else.

1778
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: Right, I think, Yeah, that's the weird part. I get

1779
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: the recovery. You want to get the an asset back.

1780
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: You don't want to just lose Katie straight up. So

1781
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you get an All Star. I mean it's an Eastern

1782
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: All Star, but it's an All star and the lesson

1783
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: D'Angel Russell super young. I get all that it's weird

1784
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: that it's a guard. I think that's a strange part. Now,

1785
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I guess it helps the Clay's not there at the beginning.

1786
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: They're going into a brand new arena. Okay, you got

1787
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: Curry and d'angela Russell. That's your that's your backcourt. It

1788
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: it's a strange to me that ended up being a guard.

1789
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: But you know, they always says that they're light years ahead.

1790
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they are just flipping that they already know. Like,

1791
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no idea who, like is

1792
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: it Kevin Love or is it something like is it

1793
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: a a more talented big to then pair with the

1794
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Splash Brothers, because it feels weird to have anohing guard

1795
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: Splash Brothers.

1796
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: It is. It is very weird. But I guess that's

1797
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: the only thing that we're going to get from the nets. Ye,

1798
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: that's where give up. You know, it's time to move

1799
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 2: on to Kyrie and Kevin Love. That's interesting. Do they

1800
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: finally get Kevin Love. There was the rumor before the

1801
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: championship that Clay was going to be traded out.

1802
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: We debated that. Yeah, on one of the first drop

1803
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: podcasts when we were at NBA TV about the idea

1804
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: whether you would trade Clay for Kevin at the time

1805
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: when he was with Minnesota. Wow, okay, let's keep it

1806
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: moving here. Blazers. They agreed to the super Max with

1807
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard. Acquired Hassan Whiteside in that Butler four team trade.

1808
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: Retained Rodney Hood two years sixteen million, signed Hozonia two

1809
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: years league minimum. Signed Anthony Tulliver one year two point

1810
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: six million. Acquired Ken Bazemore in a trade from the Hawks.

1811
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: They lost a Menu Harkless, Seth Curry, Canter Meyers, Leonard,

1812
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: and Evan Turner. That's a lot of turnover for a

1813
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: team those in the conference finals. This is a bit shocking.

1814
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: But what do you think? What's the grade for this one?

1815
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: It's an interesting one. I think I'm in the b

1816
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: fam okay, because they got you know, you named all

1817
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: those guys that are going uh and and Seth Curry

1818
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: is a great shooter on that list, but you know,

1819
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: a little bit limited. They got a good shooter in

1820
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: Kent Bazemore. He still has that and he can start.

1821
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 2: And Hassan Whiteside his best year is always a contract year.

1822
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: So despite Enniscanter leaving, I think has On Whiteside will

1823
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: be fine there. So I don't know, it's kind of uh.

1824
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: I think they did gain a little bit and along

1825
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: with Anthony Tolliver, he can shoot the ball, he can

1826
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: give you something. He can give you probably what Seth

1827
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Curry gave you off the bench to some degree. Mario

1828
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: Zonia is the guy that everybody wants to take a

1829
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: flyer on, but probably isn't all that good.

1830
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.

1831
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they lost some of their depth, but I think

1832
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: maybe their top end got a little bit better.

1833
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are hoping like Baysmore and Hood are, you know,

1834
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: picking up the slack of guys that have their limitations,

1835
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, a menu and Harkless and stuff like that.

1836
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: But are solids solid role players around You know, your

1837
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Lillard and McCollum on the wings, both defensively and being

1838
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: at times being able to hit a shot like they

1839
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: were good players. We can agree with that. Blazer's team

1840
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: have proven they've been a pretty good team for the

1841
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: last couple of years. So you're asking, you know, Baysmore

1842
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: was in a tough spot with the Hawks.

1843
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean he got his pay day shout out to

1844
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen.

1845
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah again, but was fine and was fine, but you know,

1846
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's a little reinvigorated here now on a

1847
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: on a talented team, a much more talented team than

1848
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: the Blazers out there. I could see that. And Rodney

1849
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: Hood played really, really well and when it mattered in

1850
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: the in the postseason. So those are your your wing

1851
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: guys that are picking up the slack for some of

1852
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: the guys you lost. I get it when and Evon

1853
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: Turner if you want to throw him in the mix, though,

1854
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: he was more of like a backup point card. Yeah,

1855
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: the White Side's interesting. I mean, no, is there anyone

1856
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: out there as a song Whiteside fan? I'm dead serious.

1857
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: The Heat weren't.

1858
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Probably the only fans are Heat fans that can pick

1859
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: up his cool Miami Vice jersey for fifty off right now.

1860
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think they're going to be

1861
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: sitting there.

1862
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you, but they're not gonna be all

1863
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: that they It was Meyers Leonard who didn't really have

1864
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 2: a steady year, and Moharkless's who's totally a solid player.

1865
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they gave up a lot. It's it

1866
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: is an interesting move, but I think they believe it's

1867
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: on Whiteside's peak could be better than Ennis Kantor's peak.

1868
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: And again, it's a contract year.

1869
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Right, It's a contract year. It's not like you're locked

1870
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: into Whiteside for multiple years here. Anyway. You also are

1871
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: missing your center in Nurkic because of injury, who could

1872
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: be out for a while, being a giant dude and

1873
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: a severe injury at that You're hoping Zach Collins is

1874
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: better with more reps and more opportunity. I think that's fair.

1875
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think be is exactly right. I mean,

1876
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: I guess you're not banking on the Blazers being in

1877
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: the conference finals again just because of other teams getting

1878
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: a little bit better in the West and how it

1879
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: shakes out. But they're still a really good team. There's

1880
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: still probably going to be a solid team when you

1881
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: got Lillard as your leader, and then we call them

1882
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: and then whoever else you have around them and a

1883
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: well coached squad. At that they they proved me wrong

1884
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: a lot. You know. It feels like every season where

1885
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, they're gonna plateau here a little bit. Yeah,

1886
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: and then they and they and their plateau is just

1887
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: way higher than than I'm always shocked by it.

1888
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: And that's the worrisome part is that maybe they got

1889
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: to the conference finals because they had great chemistry and

1890
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: maybe you're tearing that down by trading a bunch of

1891
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 2: your guy basically trading half your more than half your rota.

1892
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric Eric Griffith noted on Twitter players departing Portland

1893
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: played more minutes in the playoffs last season one and

1894
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: eighty nine then those still on the team and seventy six.

1895
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: So guys that were playing in the postseason playing heavy

1896
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: minutes because of across the board there.

1897
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my spread. My most surprising one is

1898
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate for them. I'm sure they wanted to keep

1899
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Seth Curry and Nannis Kanter. He you know, he was great,

1900
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: he was really really good and has on Whiteside should

1901
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: be better than him on paper, but that never is

1902
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: the case.

1903
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, the way they play defensively with their bigs,

1904
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: that's what Whiteside does. Stay back, protect the rim, you know,

1905
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: we don't need you out here chasing. That's how they

1906
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 1: play within Terry Scott's system defensively, So that that that jives.

1907
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: That works that if they continue to play that and

1908
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: have the rest of the perimetery, guys run around and

1909
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: try and defend and get over fight through screens and

1910
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

1911
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: So Mario Hassan Whiteside was very pumped on Instagram, yelling

1912
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: and screaming, we got shooters, we got shooters. Ooh yeah,

1913
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: taking a shot at is at the heat? Fam? Is

1914
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: he going to pass it to the shooters?

1915
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, The Utah jass the darlings

1916
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen free agencies, So I'm excited to hear

1917
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: your take on this. They signed Bogdanovic four year, seventy

1918
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: three million. They signed Ed Davis everybody loves Ed Davis

1919
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: two years ten million, signed Jeff Green one year two

1920
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: point five million. Uncle Jeff with the Jazz, signed a

1921
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: manual Moodia one year deal. He's just twenty three years

1922
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: old by the way.

1923
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

1924
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And they acquired Mike Conley in a trade before the draft.

1925
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: So you know Conley and Bogdanovich and Davidson, Green and Mudia.

1926
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: They lost Derek Favors, Ricky Rubio and Nettu who was waived.

1927
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the jazz. What's the great?

1928
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Are you as high on the jazz as everybody else

1929
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: seems to go?

1930
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they are the darlings. What's another word for darlings?

1931
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: That seems like a played out word?

1932
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bells of the ball wins. Yeah, it just

1933
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: feels I can't even think of another word for I

1934
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: wanted more of a no what what do you mean darlings?

1935
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Darlings is fine. It feels like a bit of a

1936
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: negative connotation, like it's a bit of a sweetie for me,

1937
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: it's a bit the feminine tone.

1938
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, like the bells of the ball, which is fine.

1939
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't need a masculine word. But they're great. These

1940
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 2: guys are great. I mean you trade Ricky Riville's the funs.

1941
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the leather jacket. They're cooler. But likes them.

1942
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about like a bird. Isn't

1943
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: a faun of bird?

1944
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it is.

1945
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Mike Conley is a lot better than Ricky Ruby, period.

1946
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: I think that's what it really. That's what you got

1947
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: to get pumped up for. And then you get ad

1948
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: Boy and Bogdanovic instead of Derek Favors, who favors a

1949
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: good player, but he'll be better as a center. In

1950
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: New Orleans, you got a ton of scoring Conley and

1951
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: Bogdanovic around Mitchell and Rudy Gobert and Joe Ingles. Yeah,

1952
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: you got to be really really excited for a team

1953
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: that's amazing defensively. Now you've got some scores.

1954
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: I thought the Utah Jazz are gonna be the number

1955
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: two team in the West last year.

1956
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: Right.

1957
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: I was high on the Jazz last season, and now

1958
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm even arguably even higher on them now because they

1959
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 1: have offense to go with a great defense totally that is,

1960
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, led by Rudy Gobert at the back. There

1961
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: you got shooters. We saw them in the playoffs. They

1962
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: couldn't hit shots. They gut looks against the Rockets, they

1963
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: got a tunnel looks. Nobody can hit one fair. So

1964
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: and so in theory with Bugdanovitch and and Conley, who

1965
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: it's like he's he's such a he's such sort of

1966
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: a Kyle Lowry type of guy to me that he

1967
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: that he's slid on both ends of the floor. You know,

1968
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 1: he's he's not one of the elite players in the league,

1969
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: but he's so good and and and when you play

1970
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: with them, everyone seems to love him Conley even probably

1971
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: more than lowry guys winning like those teammate awards and

1972
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So it makes sense. This is great.

1973
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: I think this is so good for Donovan Mitchell as well.

1974
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh big time right to have just to have somebody else.

1975
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: That can hit a shot and can give you a

1976
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: little scoring, so it's not the pressure on you to

1977
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: Hey man, we're gonna need thirty to have any chance

1978
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: of pulling out this win.

1979
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: Mike Conley's gonna be amazing with Donvy Mitchell. Apparently they're

1980
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 2: already working out together. Yeah, this is good. And the

1981
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: last time Mike Conley was in the playoffs, many people

1982
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 2: weren't watching his playoff series against the San Antonio Spurs.

1983
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Kawhi was going off against Conley in twenty seventeen, but

1984
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Conley was also going off. He had a thirty five

1985
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: point game of twenty six at twenty six, at twenty four,

1986
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: twenty four, and a thirteen in six games. He was

1987
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 2: he was great. The guy is a really great player.

1988
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Now he's on the other side of thirty, he'd be

1989
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: He's comfortable giving Donovan Mitchell the majority of the shots,

1990
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: and then you have a guy like Boy and Bogdanovich

1991
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 2: you can fit a lot better in the third role

1992
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: in terms of scoring, and Joe Ingles the same. And

1993
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is gonna have space. He's not a great

1994
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: offensive player, but he's going to have space to make

1995
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 2: things happen on the lobs and the dunks. So their

1996
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: starting five is really really good.

1997
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then even you know, filling out the rest

1998
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: of the roster with Ed Davis and Jeff Green and Moodier.

1999
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these guys are taking a little

2000
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: bit of a flyer on. They're obviously hoping Dante Exhem

2001
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: can come back and actually play without injuries and be

2002
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: and live up to some of the potential that a

2003
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: lot of people saw in him early in his career

2004
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: and why he was drafted so high. That's it's it's good.

2005
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: They're tough to find holes right now with this team.

2006
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: It's one thing to see it on paper and then

2007
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: another thing to see them play. But you know, I

2008
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: wish we could have zagged here when everyone else ziggin

2009
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: with the Jazz and being high on them, But I can't, well,

2010
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: I believe it. I love love the Conley Mitchell backcourt

2011
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: and then to add some more shooting with Bogdanovic beside

2012
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: a Gobert. I means just the compliments that.

2013
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: Looked perfect, Yeah, perfect.

2014
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 1: It looks pray. By the way, Bogdanovic coming from the Pacers.

2015
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 1: Pacers have signed TJ McConnell, so they now have TJ Leaf,

2016
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell, and TJ Warren. TJ Ford also used to

2017
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: play in Indiana Crazy crazy, so they got another guard

2018
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: there in TJ McConnell, formerly of the Sixers. All Right,

2019
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks retained Kristaps Porzingis five years one hundred and

2020
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: fifty eight million. Retain Mexi Kleieber four years thirty five million.

2021
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Retain Dwight Powell Canadian Dwight Powell three years thirty three million.

2022
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I feel like that was the first signing am I

2023
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: crazy free agency. Felt like that one was retained JJ

2024
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: Burrea one year of Vets minimum. Retain Dorian Finney Smith

2025
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: three years twelve million. Signed Seth Curry, as you said,

2026
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: four years thirty two million, and just before we sat

2027
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 1: down to record, signed boban Marianovich two year seven million.

2028
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,839
Speaker 1: He has already tweeted out things are bigger in Texas.

2029
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: Just pretty good. That's a lot. He didn't really lose anyone.

2030
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: I applaud you for your enthusiasm in reading those off.

2031
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you're not that pumped, no, are you. I mean

2032
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 2: it's it's the same team as last year, essentially with

2033
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Seth Curray, which is great. Yeah, he gave him a

2034
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 2: he was a one year rental in Portland. They'd gone

2035
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: back and Boban, who was played off the floor in

2036
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

2037
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: Boban is just there for I mean little Yeah, think

2038
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: of the the Mavericks videos. They're gonna pump out.

2039
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

2040
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: They've got the best, you know, video production team probably

2041
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: in the NBA.

2042
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I lost Dirk incomes Boban. Yeah, to be the star.

2043
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: Smart, that's smart. Yeah, they're thinking that. That's next level.

2044
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: That's light years ahead. Start thinking of your social media accounts.

2045
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 2: Forget the wins, win the internet.

2046
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. So they're gonna win the internet with

2047
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: Boban and all these videos. But yeah, you're right, I

2048
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: just bring them back the same team.

2049
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: It's just incomplete. It's incomplete right now because they want

2050
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: a third star and maybe they get Gorn Dragic, which

2051
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 2: was rumored to be a part of the Jimmy Butler trade,

2052
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: which still could happen. They could still get Goran Dravich

2053
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: as their third guy behind Chris STAPs and Luka Doncic,

2054
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 2: another Slovenian star. There their team international right now, they're

2055
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: team Worldwide. There put their pit bull mister Worldwide. But

2056
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: right now, yeah, they're they're gonna be good. But they

2057
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 2: traded Harrison Barnes at the at the trade deadline because

2058
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: they didn't want to pay him, and now the Kings

2059
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 2: have given him a heck of a contract which we'll

2060
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: get to, uh, but they need something to replace him

2061
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 2: to be really great, to be the you know, part

2062
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: of the top four or five.

2063
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Do you think? Do you think that? But you think

2064
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 1: they're a borderline playoff team? Is healthy?

2065
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I just

2066
01:35:55,320 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 2: expected more from this. You trade Hair Barnes, what's the

2067
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 2: point of that to get a third guy in here? Right?

2068
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: I thought that was the point. And maybe they're waiting

2069
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: on the right guy, and in Dragic I think would

2070
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: be great. Yeah. You know, we named all those tough

2071
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: the tough teams in the Western conference. But if you've

2072
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 2: got Kristaps Porzingis and Luka Dancich, who are two of

2073
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 2: the best, whatever, I don't know. I can't. I don't

2074
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 2: have the number. I'm not I can't Bill Simmons it

2075
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 2: right now and pull out a number of top fifteen,

2076
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: top eighteen, top two young dudes. I do believe in Christaps, though.

2077
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get back to being incredible.

2078
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not worried that the guys missed what one

2079
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: hundred and forty games over four seasons, And I don't know,

2080
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: he's a giant.

2081
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 2: I didn't go to med school in the last three weeks,

2082
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 2: so I don't know. I don't know.

2083
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they well, look they don't make that trade without

2084
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: knowing the Mavericks I'm talking about right, Like, hey, we

2085
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: we're fine with it. We're locking them up. We love

2086
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: the idea of him with Luca cool. No, no problem,

2087
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: we're doing that. So yeah, they're confident. And he was

2088
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: like I was like an All Star at twenty two. Yes,

2089
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: it was in the East, but it wasn't then, which

2090
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: is not easy to do because you weren't winning a

2091
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: lot of games. So you know, he had great records,

2092
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: and he's just one of those rare like rare guys

2093
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: in today's NBA really of all time actually that can

2094
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: block a ton of shots and then hit threes. That's

2095
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: and like in today's game, what more do you want?

2096
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Protect the rim and as a big guy be able

2097
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: to stretch the floor and hit a bunch of threes

2098
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: for us, Like, okay, sign me up. So you're hoping

2099
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: he's playing, and you're hoping at seven foot three, he's

2100
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: just not one of these like I don't know, El

2101
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: Gauskiz type guys or other guys that are just because

2102
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: of size have foot problems and light problems. And then

2103
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: it's and then it's sort of like it's over from that.

2104
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess Dwight Palell Not to get nitty

2105
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 2: gritty here, but I guess Dwight Palell starts with him

2106
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 2: and is they're five because they're paying him like a starter,

2107
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: I guess. And Kris STAPs is the four and maybe

2108
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 2: finishes games at the five and so you don't have

2109
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: to play Kris STAPs forty minutes at the center spot.

2110
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: Kind of makes sense. But Toyd Powell also got paid

2111
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 2: like like he's a good player, but sometimes he can't

2112
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: stay on the floor.

2113
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, all right. Sacramento Kings retained

2114
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes four years eighty five million, signed Corey Joseph,

2115
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: another Canadian there three years thirty seven million, signed Dwayne

2116
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Deadman three years forty one million, signed Trevor Reza two

2117
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: years twenty five million, and signed with Shawn Holmes two

2118
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: years ten million.

2119
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: I know you like this, Skates, I know you like this.

2120
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I love the Sacramento Kings.

2121
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 2: I don't you don't I think they overpaid.

2122
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, on one of the majority guys.

2123
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: Basically everywhere. Harrison Barnes he signed in twenty sixteen. Shout

2124
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: out to twenty sixteen for that Monster Max contract. It

2125
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,919
Speaker 2: seemed like he was overpaid, and then the MAVs decided,

2126
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't working out. He didn't live up

2127
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 2: to it. Now he's getting four years.

2128
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: He's basically got the same thing.

2129
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, three years later, Dwayne Deadman three years for

2130
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: four Y're paying thirteen million for a guy who's never

2131
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: made more than six million in his career. He's never

2132
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: had more than a one plus one contract. I don't

2133
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 2: think in his you know, he's gonna be thirty soon.

2134
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. Uh, Corey Joseph love that guy. Yeah,

2135
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 2: great playoff performer. You're paying him thirteen million a year

2136
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 2: for the next three years. That's starter's money. Is he

2137
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: going to play a lot with the Aaron Fox? I

2138
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 2: guess Trevor Resa two years twenty five million? Do you

2139
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 2: need two years for Trevor Resa? I like the contract

2140
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 2: he signed with Phoenix Phoenix better last year. Maybe it's

2141
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 2: a tax for being a Sacramento King. You have to overpay. Yeah, maybe,

2142
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 2: but you're paying overpaying of four guys, I do think

2143
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: and now like the type of guys, type of players

2144
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 2: make sense. It's just we're just I'm just talking dollars.

2145
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, the Kings are one on making the playoffs

2146
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: next year. That's what this tells me, Like we need

2147
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: to end the drought and make the playoffs. We want

2148
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: to get our young guys, especially our lead point guard

2149
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: Star Fox, Daron Fox. We want him to get a

2150
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: taste of that. And that's good. You want that, I mean,

2151
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 1: I think we all agree with that. Get those reps.

2152
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: Even if you're out in the in the first round,

2153
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: you put up a fight or your sweat whatever you're

2154
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: in there, and it's different basketball. They are going all

2155
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: in with these moves to get there. I will it

2156
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: be enough? Will it be enough? Because it's still still

2157
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: a loaded West. I think it's in play. They were

2158
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 1: right there of course last year. I like, these guys

2159
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: are good players. They are whether or not you ever

2160
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: paid for them, they're good players and they're not going

2161
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: to upset your locker room by any means. I'm talking

2162
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: like guys like josephin Deadman and a Reza Rashawn Holmes.

2163
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: I think is a nice one, a sneaky nice one. Yeah,

2164
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: so you know, you pair it with your young guys

2165
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: here and you hope that you get in there. And

2166
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: I think it's in play.

2167
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 2: I hear you.

2168
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean Harrison, the Harrison, barn One, Barnes One. I mean,

2169
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 1: they get them, and this was like it appeared to

2170
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: have been, was decided when they got them, like, hey,

2171
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: you're going to opt out and then we'll come to

2172
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: an agreement and then you'll get longer money, but it

2173
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: will be around the same money what you're getting, you know,

2174
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 1: a yearly. So okay, that was the agreement they came

2175
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: to good on him's guy continues get paid and he's good.

2176
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 1: He's solid.

2177
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 2: He's solid, He's solid, if unspectacular for sure.

2178
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,839
Speaker 1: Well, is Harrison Barnes half as good as Chris Middleton?

2179
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean hmm, yeah, I think so half?

2180
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, so I guess.

2181
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: The money he's ultimately getting. Okay, Yeah, he gets good.

2182
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 2: I just like you said, there's they could be a

2183
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 2: playoff team with the Bucks and Chris Middleton. You know

2184
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: that that's a championship team. So you invest, yeah, right right?

2185
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Uh And and the Kings can invest and overpay in

2186
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes, Dwayne Deadman, Trevor Reza, Corey Joseph. Those are

2187
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 2: your top four paid players next year, which you would think, oh,

2188
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: that's not a playoff team. But they can do that

2189
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 2: because everybody else is on their rookie deal. Badley, Taron Fox,

2190
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Buddy Healed, bog Nam, Bogdanovich, and the list goes on.

2191
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: They're they're young, so that makes sense. But I do

2192
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 2: think they gave extra years and extra money to guys,

2193
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 2: and maybe it's going to bite them in a couple

2194
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: of years. Maybe not now, maybe not maybe not this year,

2195
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 2: not this year. It won't be You're right, I understand

2196
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: the thinking, and maybe it's fine, but maybe in your

2197
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: two or year three of Corey Joseph making thirteen, Dwayne Deadman,

2198
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: Dwayne Deadmon thirteen, it's just it's extra money for guys

2199
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: in Joseph in a Reason and Deadman, those three that

2200
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: are sort of at the closer to the end than

2201
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 2: they are at the beginning of their their careers.

2202
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: Now that the Raptors have won a championship, I'm putting

2203
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: my entire support behind the Sacramento Kings to get into

2204
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We'll start with that and then to ultimately

2205
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: win a championship. You know, once you once as a

2206
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: fan base, you get to experience that first championship. I

2207
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: truly want every other franchise that doesn't have one to

2208
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: experience it. There's nothing like the first one, nothing like it.

2209
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: So I'm all in. I'm all in on back in

2210
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: the Kings. That's my West Coast team. I said that,

2211
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: I believe last year and Canadian coach Roy Rana from

2212
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 1: Ryerson University coach there coached also some of the younger

2213
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: men's teams. National men's team's done a fantastic job. Unbelievable coach.

2214
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna be an NBA head coach one day. You

2215
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: can lock that in. He's on the King's assistant. He's

2216
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: a King's assistant. He's on their staff. Smart move there.

2217
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm giving him an A plus plus coach.

2218
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 2: Two thoughts. You mentioned the Raptors. We didn't even touch

2219
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 2: on the Raptors. They had a great signing Matt Thomas.

2220
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Matt Thomas. Three years. You got three years?

2221
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Guy can shoot, can't?

2222
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's apparently ninety uncontested on open jumpers. That's pretty good.

2223
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: Here's an idea, don't leave them open.

2224
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 2: I played in Europelus.

2225
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I do love that the Raptors have interior guy named

2226
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: Fred and Matt.

2227
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, great names.

2228
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: Who else do you need to get?

2229
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 2: You need?

2230
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Like? What are the just best? Well, if they ever

2231
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: got a Gord in Canada, you got a Gord, I'd say, like, uh,

2232
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: I guess myl not a mic a Michael, any other

2233
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: good classic names?

2234
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: Jad you got any classic names?

2235
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 3: I think you got it. Gordon is he's got to

2236
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:11,879
Speaker 3: go by Gordon.

2237
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Now you're saying we're never getting a Gordon NBA player?

2238
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not.

2239
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean that maybe a Gordy you can also bet

2240
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 2: on this is just a random thing. I don't want

2241
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: to don't want to miss out. You can bet on

2242
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 2: the first to officially report the signs like you're betting

2243
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 2: on that's nute as well individual guys. So you can

2244
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 2: bet on Adrian Wiji and Rescue shamp Erna, Mark Stein,

2245
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 2: Zach Lowe, Tim McMahon, or or the teams, which are

2246
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 2: good bets, the Lakers, Clippers or the Raptors that you

2247
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 2: would get the press release from them in Kauhi situation.

2248
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good bet, but it seems that

2249
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 2: it is just ripe. Yeah.

2250
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: The update here as of four o'clock Eastern time on Wednesday,

2251
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: July third, with this whole Kawhi back in Toronto is

2252
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: that he's in this he's in the hotel and he's

2253
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: meeting with the Raptors.

2254
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Brass nice.

2255
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: That's what we know. And now you're right, we're betting

2256
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 1: on who is going to actually break the news. Can

2257
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I bet on New Balance?

2258
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 2: No, not that I've seen. That's ripe for rigging though, right,

2259
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm a New Balance employee. Let me know.

2260
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, insider insider knowledge, all right, Uh, okay, couple more here,

2261
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I know, there's a lot of Western Conference teams, but

2262
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 1: some of them don't have a ton. But the Pelicans

2263
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 1: signed JJ Reddick two years twenty six point five million.

2264
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: They acquired Derek Favors in a trade with the Jazz

2265
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: that cost a few picks. They signed euro League stretch

2266
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: forward Nicolo Melli. I believe it is how you say

2267
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: his name. They added Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram in

2268
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: the ad trade, and they retained Darius Miller two years,

2269
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: fourteen million. They lost Ad Randall, Elfred Peyton, Solomon Hill.

2270
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 1: What do you think the big one is? Of course

2271
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 1: Reddick in Favors.

2272
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 2: What do I think?

2273
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 1: What's so great?

2274
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing? You like it? Yeah, regardless of what

2275
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 2: the Lakers players do on this team, because you know

2276
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 2: who the heck knows really what you're getting from Brandon

2277
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Ingram with the blood cloud situation, Lonso Ball, if he's

2278
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: really going to develop. Just the fact you've got Drew Holiday,

2279
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 2: JJ Reddicks, Zion and Derek Favors playing at the five.

2280
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: Those are that's a good starting four there. I would say,

2281
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 2: and put somebody on there like Ingram, Heart or Ball

2282
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 2: that that's pretty phenomenal. That's it's pretty exciting for New

2283
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 2: Orleans fans, and it's all of a sudden it's sort

2284
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 2: of a deep team who starts you know, I mentioned

2285
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 2: those guys. It's it's it's they've done really well to

2286
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: recover from a guy who said I'm not playing here

2287
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: to be an exciting basketball team in New Orleans. You know,

2288
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: they had a little bit of luck getting the number

2289
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 2: one pick, but they also did some great things including

2290
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, the first round picks that they got, and

2291
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 2: you know they've got that that Jackson what's his name

2292
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: from that they drafted.

2293
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Waz Yeah, something like that. Yeah.

2294
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 2: So in Texas, Yeah, things are looking bright after it

2295
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 2: looking pretty bleak in February.

2296
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: I'll say, what a turnaround. It's crazy. I like that

2297
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: they when they make they make the trade finally with

2298
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: with the Anthony Davis Gala pick, so they have all

2299
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 1: the Lakers picks from from here on until you know,

2300
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five or what the heck it is. But

2301
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: they didn't get a bunch of a shooting really back

2302
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: in that deal. You know, they get ball and they

2303
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: get Ingram, they get Josh Hart. Okay, but so they're like,

2304
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 1: well then we have Zion Williamson. Well what's the best

2305
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: thing to have around Zion Williamson. You want space. So

2306
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, well we didn't get a ton of

2307
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: shooting in the ad trade, so let's try and go

2308
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 1: get some. And JJ Reddick probably maybe the best shooter

2309
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: available in terms of free agency as a three point shooter.

2310
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 1: They get him on a great deal I think at

2311
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: the two years twenty six and then even Darius Miller

2312
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: gets you know, retaining him. He's a decent three point shooter,

2313
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: shoots a high volume and a high percentage. That's good.

2314
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: That's smart, and I think Zion's already pumped about the

2315
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: idea of playing with some space. It's like, oh, this

2316
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. College. You know, shortest three point line,

2317
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: not a lot of shooting out there. Teams can play

2318
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: in a particular way. Everybody can shoot in the NBA,

2319
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: or at least the guys on our team. For the

2320
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: most parking shoot you got, you're gonna I'm gonna be

2321
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: a terror. That's that's smart thinking. Let's see if it

2322
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 1: plays out now.

2323
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 2: I do think that there is definitely because of the

2324
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 2: Zion shine, it kind of overshadows or I guess you

2325
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: can sort of sweep under the rug what they got

2326
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis because you said Lonso Ball, brandon Ingram,

2327
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 2: Josh Hart and the picks, you don't.

2328
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Think that was a good it's a good Well you

2329
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 1: were because you were saying you would have prefer if

2330
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: you're looking at the players, maybe just players, get rid

2331
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 1: of the picks that you would have like a Tatum.

2332
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 2: The picks are good, but are any of those players

2333
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 2: going to develop into a star? I don't know.

2334
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: It turns out when you leave the Lakers you turn

2335
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: into an All star. Jela Russell, who knows what? Julius

2336
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Randall I believe in Lonzo Ball. I think it's possible. Yeah, point,

2337
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: they were in a pretty rough spots.

2338
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 2: And that's why it's a it's a hell of a package,

2339
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,839
Speaker 2: especially with it when you know that it's like at Carmrallo,

2340
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 2: Hey I'm going to New York. They still were able

2341
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 2: to get Gallinari and Wilson, Chandler and mosgov Or whoever. Back.

2342
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: They everybody in the world knew that he was going

2343
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: to the Lakers and they were still able to get

2344
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: a package back. Yeah, So kudos to David Griffin and

2345
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: everybody working in New Orleans.

2346
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the idea even of just keeping Drew Holliday,

2347
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: He's still our guy, he's the he is our leader. Yeah,

2348
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: it's going to be Zion's team, but maybe not right away,

2349
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: and that's good.

2350
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 2: I think.

2351
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 1: That's I think when you can do that, if you

2352
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: if you're in the position to do that as a

2353
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 1: franchise is trying to get back to a certain level

2354
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: to have like this number one guy come in that

2355
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,560
Speaker 1: everybody's saying is the next Lebron. I mean, if you

2356
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: can take off some of the pressure as much as

2357
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: possible in this sort of weird environment that we live

2358
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: in now, where you're instant fanously hoping like, oh yeah,

2359
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: this guy better be putting up twenty five and thirty

2360
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 1: every night. Like, if you can try and dial that

2361
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: down a little bit expectations, then that's great. That's gonna

2362
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: be great for your franchise and long run, and definitely

2363
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: for the player I think in the long run, even

2364
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 1: if he is Lebron from day one, which I don't

2365
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: think people are going to expect as much right now.

2366
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: But this is a good squad, this is they they

2367
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: could shock a lot of people. I think in terms

2368
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 1: of like coming out of the gate maybe and and

2369
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: like being right there and you're like suddenly like WHOA

2370
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:27,759
Speaker 1: is this a playoff team? Like this is a borderline

2371
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 1: playoff team because it's it's with Drew and if Zion's

2372
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: is as good as advertise, and then some of these Lakers,

2373
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: especially Brandon Ingram, I think is a potential one that

2374
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: could be that star you're that you're talking about. Wow,

2375
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 1: could they could be a tough vote. So they're gonna be. Look,

2376
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: they played super super fast as it was that the

2377
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Pelicans did with Elvin Gentry and that offense. Thinking about

2378
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 1: it now, I mean, JJ Reddick, he might be older,

2379
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 1: but he ain't slow. He ain't gonna stop moving like

2380
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: transition threes and Zion pushing the pace and Drew's still

2381
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,560
Speaker 1: doing that. I love, love the idea and ball he

2382
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 1: loves to push it. It's gonna be. I think there'd

2383
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: be a fun fun team to watch. So yeah, good

2384
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: on the Pelicans. All Right, we are waiting here still

2385
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 1: Kawhi watch twenty nineteen. But I guess almost in a

2386
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:15,600
Speaker 1: weird way, we can put these teams together. But the

2387
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 1: Clippers and Lakers both teams in La Clippers retain Patrick

2388
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: Beverley three years, forty million dollars. They got Rodney McGruder

2389
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: three years, fifteen million, They added Mo Harkless in that

2390
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 1: fourteen Butler trade, and then the Lakers have done nothing

2391
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: because they've signed basically Troy Daniels and Jared Dudley for

2392
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 1: minimums because they're waiting. They're like, this has been the

2393
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: crazy part with this whole Kawhi thing. It's these three

2394
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: teams and now the Raptors didn't have space to do

2395
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: anything anyway, but you know, they really haven't done anything

2396
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: because it's like, we just gotta wait and see if

2397
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: Kawhi is gonna pick us. Yeah, especially the Lakers and

2398
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: the Clippers.

2399
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: I would think the Lakers are gonna get Andre Goodolla.

2400
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm just specting that happens. Yeah, but I would think

2401
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies release him, and now they have a guy

2402
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: who used to guard Lebron really really well playing with Lebron,

2403
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 2: even though they're really shallow. Even though if if they

2404
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 2: don't get Kawhi, it's still a tough out, still a

2405
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: really good, really good team, as shallow as they are.

2406
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 2: If you're playing a D and Bron and Kuzma and

2407
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Igodala and whoever else you throw out there in the playoffs,

2408
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 2: and they're gonna get some guard that wants to play

2409
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: with them. That's a decent I mean they're shallow, no doubt,

2410
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 2: no matter what, no matter what.

2411
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: They've got to get somebody, some other players on their team.

2412
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: But they have to wait. I mean, this is this

2413
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: is why it will be a crazy. Look, they still

2414
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: have a d and Lebron to get that, but this

2415
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: will be a tough, tough blow if Kawhi picks the

2416
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Raps or the Clippers, and then the Lakers are like,

2417
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: all right, everybody's gone.

2418
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 2: But they still they still got Anthony Davis. Yeah, they still.

2419
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: And that's the risk you're going to take. If you

2420
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: even have a twenty chance set convincing Kawhi it come

2421
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 1: join your team. I think you do it a time, right, yep,

2422
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: even if you even if you did then miss out

2423
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: on the B level free agents or the CEA level

2424
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: free agents because you just had to wait. And they're

2425
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 1: all gone now for the most part, and there's some

2426
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: still out there, but nothing that's going to move the needle.

2427
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go get a Cousins. Maybe they pay somebody.

2428
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some guys who want to play with

2429
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis and Lebron James.

2430
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 1: If I stays with the Raps as a player, who's

2431
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: it look worse on the Clippers of the Lakers for

2432
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: not getting them.

2433
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: I guess that's the Clippers, just because they got Anthony.

2434
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 2: Because the Lakers got Anthony Davis, and.

2435
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: The Clippers recruited him for a year, like we're traveling

2436
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 1: to every game he went to, and they were really

2437
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: like traded half their team with the idea of, like

2438
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 1: we have a good chance of getting him and we're

2439
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 1: going to convince him to come here.

2440
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2441
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

2442
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 2: They were Rodney recruiting him for a while, no doubt.

2443
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 1: But I just want to find out. Okay, now now

2444
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm getting upset.

2445
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 2: Just tell us, just tell us that just wait, just wait. Now,

2446
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: this podcast has a little bit of shelf life.

2447
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:08,799
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true. True, Okay, you know and Clippers again, Beverly,

2448
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 1: no problem with that. Three years forty Yeah, Magruder, he's partless.

2449
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 2: He's still Yeah, Beverly feels like he's an old man.

2450
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

2451
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 2: He's kind an old man face he does he does,

2452
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 2: but he's still thirty. I don't think he's even thirty.

2453
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think they're all fine. They're

2454
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 2: all just wait and see contracts. As you said, right.

2455
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 2: They guaranteed Lou Williams end of his contract, which was

2456
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 2: a nice move. I think they were trying to convince

2457
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 2: QUI to come like, hey, we're going to guarantee this

2458
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 2: guy money at the end of his contract. Isn't that cool?

2459
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 2: It was like the cheapest deal. Yeah.

2460
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, what a favor they did.

2461
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll give you that eight million.

2462
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't wor about it. Yeah, oh yeah, Well I

2463
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I could be making like maybe like fifteen sixteen. No,

2464
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: I just we'll just give it to you. It's funny

2465
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: in advance. You can do whatever you want with it.

2466
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 1: You can triple that money if you're smart with it. Yeah,

2467
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 1: that's it. Probably was a bit of a play to

2468
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: entice KWHI, which we're still waiting to find out. Okay,

2469
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: A couple teams left here. Grizzlies traded for andre Iguodala,

2470
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: They retained Jonas Valancuno's three years, forty five million, and

2471
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: they traded away Chandler Parsons. He's a little more rapid, fiery.

2472
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: But what do you think you.

2473
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 2: Don't want to talk a while about U?

2474
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is looking here in the two two

2475
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: hour mark, they.

2476
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 2: Got a draft pick for Igodala. They get two, Well

2477
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 2: they did, didn't they?

2478
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: No?

2479
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: No, no, they got one, they get one. One went

2480
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 2: to the nets for the for D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, it's good.

2481
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 2: I think I think they're like I said, like we

2482
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: said about the knicks, they should they're taking on picks.

2483
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 2: They got younger, they got two first round picks for

2484
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: the Mike Conley trade. They're starting over, which is good.

2485
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: And they got out of the Chandler Parsons era, which

2486
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: was a terrible shout out to twenty sixteen was a

2487
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 2: terrible tarrit, terrible, terrible era for them. That guy barely

2488
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 2: played onto the Bachelor for him.

2489
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you've been calling that the Phoenix sun Son.

2490
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sign Ricky Rubio three years fifty one million

2491
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: and Frank Kaminski two years ten million. So the Sun's

2492
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: got their point guard.

2493
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 2: But do you like it cool? I think they overpaid.

2494
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a Phoenix tax as well. You got to overpay.

2495
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a little too much? Do you

2496
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: think Rubyo pairs nicely with Booker?

2497
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Don't defense is good? Yep, I think so.

2498
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean you're not high on the Suns making any noise? No? Still, No,

2499
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win a ton of games.

2500
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 2: Still, that's unfortunate for them. I mean it's up to

2501
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: DeAndre eight and getting better and Devin Booker getting better.

2502
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 1: Rubyo should Rubio could arguably help DeAndre eight more than

2503
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: he even helps Booker.

2504
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: That's fair, right, Yeah, that's just just bringing the ball up.

2505
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 2: He's got to be He's got to play to the

2506
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: potential of his contract or his potential because he's he's

2507
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 2: up and down. Yeah, and maybe being an older guy

2508
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: now on this team, he's definitely an older guy will help.

2509
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 2: That's a I guess you could talk yourself into being

2510
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 2: excited for this team because they're young. But are those

2511
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 2: young guys going to materialize? Is the question. Aiden's got

2512
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 2: to get Aiden's got to be great for them to

2513
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 2: even make the playoffs.

2514
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs retained Rudy Gay two years, thirty two million,

2515
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 1: signed to Mary Carroll to a two year deal. Spurs

2516
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: not doing a whole lot.

2517
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 2: Some talk about DeMarcus Cousins out there.

2518
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 1: And there is DeMarcus Cousins song. That's right.

2519
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: We've got the same agent as LaMarcus Aldridge. He just

2520
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 2: changed his agent strange on July third.

2521
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, was happy with the phone calls they were getting,

2522
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: or lack of them, right, Yes, so you would think so.

2523
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 2: And he showed that he wanted to play and play

2524
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:36,959
Speaker 2: it hurt and he'll be. I think he'll be. He'll

2525
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 2: get a decent deal, I think.

2526
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Really at this point. Yeah, I mean it could be.

2527
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: It could be from the Lakers, could from if if

2528
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 1: they strike out here.

2529
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. But as far as the Spurs, that's it, yeah,

2530
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 2: grade e h.

2531
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: But the Spurs are one of these weird teams. When

2532
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 1: we start talking about the Western Conference playoffs, it's like

2533
01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Spurs are always in it.

2534
01:57:59,320 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: They are.

2535
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: They're away there and John Tay Murray is gonna be coming.

2536
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Back, right. I totally forgot about that.

2537
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: And they still have all star, borderline all star guys

2538
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: and de Rosen and la Marcus Aldrich. They run it

2539
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 1: back with Rudy Gay. Fine bit of a payat I mean,

2540
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: two years, thirty two million, not bad. And then to

2541
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Mary Carrel to Mary Carroll's fits our system to Mark

2542
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Carey will be great again, watch in the spur system

2543
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: for sure. Minnesota will signed Jordan Bell and Noavonley.

2544
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 2: That was it really and missed out on D'Angel Russell. Yep.

2545
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, so not a not a good offseason for them.

2546
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at all. Houston Rockets retained

2547
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Austin Rivers, Gerald Green and Daniel House. That's about it.

2548
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 2: They're running it back.

2549
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, after it looked like there for a week where

2550
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, what's going on here? After

2551
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: especially even after the Warriors are getting injured left and

2552
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: right in the finals and you're thinking, oh, the Rockets man,

2553
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe now there's an opening. It's right there.

2554
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: And then suddenly there was like rumors, I guess, but

2555
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and James Harden don't like each other and

2556
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: maybe they got to move on from one of them,

2557
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: and is this ever gonna work? And now we're shopping

2558
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Capella and Eric Gordon, We're trying to get Jimmy Butler.

2559
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 1: And what effect could that the idea of trying to

2560
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: trade these guys could have any lingering effects on your locker?

2561
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 1: Room next year, because it's like, well, you didn't even

2562
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 1: want me here. I think there's something to that. But

2563
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: all that said, they should be like, hold up, everybody,

2564
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 1: chill out. We could go to the finals next year.

2565
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: We are good and if we all are together and

2566
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 1: we're all stay healthy. Now without the Mighty Warriors, yeah,

2567
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 1: there's some other great teams, but we're just they could

2568
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, they think they're just as good as unimproved

2569
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,839
Speaker 1: Jazz or basically the Nuggets running it back or the Lakers.

2570
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: They think all that they should be thinking like the

2571
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 2: Raptors when Lebronto went west, that they that they're Boogeyman

2572
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 2: is gone. They're DeMarcus Bogeyman cousins. The Warriors are gone.

2573
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: The only difference is the Raptors go out and get

2574
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: arguably the best player in the league.

2575
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 2: That's true.

2576
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Uh And the Rockets and.

2577
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 2: The turmoil was not good for their locker room and

2578
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 2: a whole coaching situation with Mike D'Antoni not giving him

2579
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 2: an extension. That's a very strange scenario. Do you want

2580
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 2: him or do you not want him? Yeah, the locker room,

2581
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 2: is is it good enough? Is it strong enough? Is

2582
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 2: it it's it's a it's a strange one because they

2583
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 2: should have already been to the NBA Finals. They should

2584
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 2: have already beat the Warriors. In theory, is their window closed?

2585
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to ask that two more teams.

2586
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder really haven't heard much from them at

2587
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 1: all in this free agency period, but they retained Neurlin's noel,

2588
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 1: They signed Alec Burks Alec Burks, fourth team in two

2589
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: seasons for Alec Burks, and uh just got Mike Muscala

2590
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 1: trying to get some shooting, some big man shooting. Yeah,

2591
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: that's it, really, that's it.

2592
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big man for me. But I'll always

2593
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 2: buy some Alec burk stock for no reason, for no

2594
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: reason of you and.

2595
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Every other team buy it's a little Alec burk stock everybody.

2596
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 2: It's a weird one. That's a weird signing because they

2597
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 2: need shooters, really, but maybe he'll do something the bench

2598
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:01,879
Speaker 2: because he's not a shooter, he's a slasher.

2599
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 1: And then a team that arguably did the least in

2600
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 1: terms of acquiring guys new guys, the Denver Nuggets is

2601
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 1: our final team here. They exercised Paul Millsap's thirty million

2602
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: dollar team option, and then they have agreed or reportedly

2603
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: agreed to the max extension for Jamal Murray. Canadians were

2604
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 1: getting paid on July first, or I guess June thirty.

2605
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 1: They were getting paid on Canada to Day. It was

2606
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 1: great then. So the Nuggets are really one of these

2607
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,760
Speaker 1: teams that are like, we are the exact same team

2608
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 1: for the most part, although they I guess they do

2609
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: have one new edition. We're gonna see him in summer league.

2610
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr. So does that make sense to you?

2611
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: Thirty million dollar pick it up with millsap, you know,

2612
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: look ahead to the future here with Jamal Murray. They

2613
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: really truly believe in Jamal Murray. It's a lot of

2614
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: money being their second guy. It's a lot of that's

2615
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money for a guy that only in

2616
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: his what second year, second or third year, third year?

2617
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, that looked great. I mean, these guys

2618
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: putting up back to back thirty point games in playoff

2619
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: series and then would have the duds where he couldn't

2620
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 1: hit a shot and was like the six or seven

2621
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: point game, the deads. But they they believe, they believe

2622
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:13,280
Speaker 1: in him, and I think rightfully so by the way,

2623
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 1: because I think I don't think he's going to be

2624
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: the guy that gets that extension and then it's like,

2625
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm good for life. No, he doesn't.

2626
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 1: He's not the Again, I've said it a million times,

2627
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: he's the least Canadian Canadian ever. His guy's wired a

2628
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 1: little differently in a good way for a basketball player.

2629
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a bit crazy, sort of a gym

2630
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 1: rat type of guy.

2631
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2632
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I like the idea.

2633
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 2: I get it.

2634
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: That's a bit of a risk. It's an early risk.

2635
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do it either, that's the other thing.

2636
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: But this squad is like, we're we're good enough with

2637
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: these guys.

2638
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're running back in the MALLSAP. They picked up

2639
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 2: Paul mallsaps option option. Man. I can't.

2640
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, we're two hours plus in here. This might be

2641
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 1: the longest podcast we've ever done.

2642
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can you can pay Jimmy.

2643
02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes. Well, I was saying we're talking more than ever

2644
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 1: because he got no help us out.

2645
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 2: Ye. Sis, we're back in two thousand and six. JD

2646
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 2: has to sit there and listen to basket real basketball time.

2647
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 2: Ye hate it.

2648
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 3: That's great, guys, I love it.

2649
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 2: I got a fake laugh.

2650
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 3: Everyone, It's totally authentic. Keep refreshing, just looking for Kohi's good. Nothing.

2651
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: You should's got a better fake laugh.

2652
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 2: Not j Jesus, he pulls it off fastast. Thank you,

2653
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 2: You're welcome. You gotta be pumped that we're not at

2654
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 2: Summer League watching Michael Porter and Bowl Bowl for the

2655
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets JD.

2656
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I'm not.

2657
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not missing it.

2658
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. Although I do like hanging out in

2659
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 3: the Cosmopolitan at three in the morning. It's kind of fun.

2660
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always fun. It's fun for a couple of nights. Yeah, somehow,

2661
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 1: Like look, we had been to Summer League for how

2662
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: many years? Five consecutive years, right, we got into a

2663
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: pretty good little uh schedule. Yeah, where we like we'd

2664
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: go have our cheap, cheap breakfast, our breakfast wars, try

2665
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 1: and find the cheapest breakfast possible. And we did a

2666
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 1: pretty good job at times. I guess we're you know,

2667
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,200
Speaker 1: we're what were we paying? We're being nothing. It has

2668
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: like five nine. Anyway, we have our breakfast, then we uh,

2669
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 1: everybody get like their workouts in people were hitting the

2670
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:22,880
Speaker 1: gym doing their yoga, doing their bar three and then

2671
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 1: it was that was a meet at the pool. It

2672
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: was the Bamboo Boys. That's where the Bamboo Boys started up.

2673
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 3: A couple of beers in the sun, that's right.

2674
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 1: I have a couple of early morning pops. Yeah, didn't

2675
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: have to go in till what three. Yeah, show wasn't

2676
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 1: on till nine o'clock at night the local time.

2677
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, West Coast. It was a great It's a great

2678
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 3: way to end the season.

2679
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 2: You guys want to go right, sure, let's do it.

2680
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 1: Yes, so fix fiks. Turns out you got to watch

2681
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: summer league basketball. Nah, it was pretty fun. It was

2682
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty fun. It was a lot more fun when we

2683
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 1: had to stay for five or six nights and not

2684
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: the Yeah, and we're there two weeks in Vegas. Tip

2685
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 1: if you ever go to Vegas, don't stay longer than

2686
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: I'll give you three days, three days max. You're ether

2687
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: do it Vegas wrong. If you if you need to

2688
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: stay it longer than three days, you're not You're not

2689
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: you're not capitalizing. You're not maximizing your time. And uh,

2690
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, killing your wallet as quickly as you could.

2691
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 2: If you need to stay long three days, go bankrupt. Yeah.

2692
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Also, don't go in July, you know, like uh like

2693
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 1: it feeling like there's a hair hair dryer on you

2694
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 1: when you as soon as you walk out of the

2695
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 1: hotel and walk across that pedestrian bridge to get that

2696
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: five ninety nine breakfast.

2697
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 2: No, I miss it.

2698
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:46,879
Speaker 1: I missed the nosebleeds for no pair, So goddamn dry Sorry, Paul.

2699
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 2: Back, just run it back you can. You can sign

2700
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 2: Jamal Brady to that contract because Nicoliokic just turned into

2701
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 2: a number one, right, you don't have to really worry

2702
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 2: because Jokich isn't gonna get fat again. I don't think

2703
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, like you talked about Jamal Murray, I don't.

2704
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's You're right. I do think he's

2705
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 2: gonna just get better as a twenty two year old.

2706
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 2: I also think Nikolai Yokich isn't going to be He's

2707
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 2: not going to regress. He's also a great young player.

2708
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, they should just run it back and when

2709
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:23,720
Speaker 2: Millsap is done after twenty twenty, maybe you get another

2710
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 2: great third option.

2711
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 1: Well, we've got another breaking trade here, breaking news. As

2712
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 1: we start to wrap this up. This is why you

2713
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 1: know you got to wrap it up Well says the

2714
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 1: Grizzlies are trading Kyle Korver and Javon Carter to the

2715
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 1: Suns Ford Anthony Melton, Josh Jackson, twenty twenty second round pick,

2716
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty one conditional second round pick. I'm

2717
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 1: so upset on myself because, like literally, when we were

2718
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: talking about the Suns what ten minutes ago, I was

2719
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 1: going to just slip in there, when are they ever

2720
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 1: going to trade Josh Jackson? I was going to say it.

2721
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:52,400
Speaker 1: It was on the tip of my tongue. I didn't

2722
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: And there he is. He's been traded to the Grizzlies.

2723
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: So Grizzly's going to take a somewhat of a flyer

2724
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 1: agains on like a Melton in a Jackson, get some picks,

2725
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: and the Sun's get Kyle Korver.

2726
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 2: The Sons are giving up on Josh Jackson. Oh right, right, No,

2727
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 2: that's what's happening.

2728
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah saying yeah, I'm.

2729
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 2: Saying that they're yeah, because they're that's one of the

2730
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 2: oldest players play in the league. But they're getting nothing back.

2731
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 2: Drawn Card is a good defensive player, but they're just

2732
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 2: giving up on Josh Jackson. What's just fine? You got

2733
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 2: to you got it at some point, So.

2734
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 1: There it is. That's probably the perfect spot to wrap

2735
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 1: up this super long podcast, breaking down as as as

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Speaker 1: well as we could all of the teams and grading

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Speaker 1: them and all their moves that they made, and trying

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Speaker 1: to keep our eye on Kawhi. Watch now, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for this. Murphy's law. We're gonna we're gonna turn

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Speaker 1: the MIC's off. We're gonna say goodbye here in a second.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna turn the MIC's off and say, oh, that

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Speaker 1: was fun, great stuff. G D's gonna start getting ready.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna, you know, whatever you gotta do. You gotta

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Speaker 1: piece it together a tiny little bit. Then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start uploading it. I'm gonna get I'll do a little

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Speaker 1: right up for it by the time I get home.

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Speaker 1: But by the time I get home from here on

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Speaker 1: about twenty minute, it's from you.

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Speaker 2: Jare just making this long.

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Speaker 1: No I know, I know, but I'm gonna get home.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk in or it's gonna be making some soup.

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Speaker 1: You know how the podcast go?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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Speaker 1: The Kawhi get traded now or did he did he

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Speaker 1: make his decision? No, not yet, And then I'll say, uh,

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Speaker 1: pull me down for a seven twenty Okay, seven twenty

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern here on July third. We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: the Kawhi is either staying with the Raps orre he's

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Speaker 1: going to the Lakers. That's what we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: seven twenty. It is just mur Murphy's. As soon as

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Speaker 1: we've upload this thing.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I can come back and record and talk about Josh

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Speaker 2: Jackson a little bit more. They just got Kyle Korver

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Speaker 2: for John That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I mean, Carter and Korver.

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Speaker 2: It's all they go.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I just cut the music. Jdkeeping going now we're doing,

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Speaker 1: Keep it going, Keep it going. Thanks so much again

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Speaker 1: to everyone that's already following our new Twitter and Instagram accounts,

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Speaker 1: The free Agents nineteen one to nine. You can email

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Speaker 1: us at The free Agent's two thousand nine teen at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. And uh, yeah, the idea. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a set schedule in terms of releasing some of

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Speaker 1: these podcasts here on this new feed throughout the summer,

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Speaker 1: but hey, look maybe we might have to do an

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Speaker 1: emergency Kauhi podcasts. Are you available on July fourth?

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Speaker 2: I think we covered it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta race the peach tree ten k in

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Speaker 1: the morning, so I'm gonna be too tired to talk

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Speaker 1: about kawhi you in your sleep. Oh it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: They already have like crazy warnings here because it's so

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Speaker 1: hot and humid even at that time in the morning.

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Speaker 1: It's just how stupid hot it is. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's serious. If like can get to the level, well

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Speaker 1: they're actually shut it down. I don't think they've ever

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Speaker 1: actually done that. I don't know how hot or human

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Speaker 1: it has to it for that, but anyway, cool, cool story,

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Speaker 1: Got a good quote for us or anything?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, are we getting the clips? Let me give it.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I remember, we'll see you around.

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Speaker 2: You can stay every day and I'd be happy every minute.

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Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the fun I've wait for.