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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I'ls you live on a Tuesday edition of the program,

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Speaker 2: merely Bo the great Ze look at us back in black. Hello,

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Speaker 2: hello friends. They were like a month away from what

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Speaker 2: Hello friends. Oh yeah, sure sure, agusta beautiful tradition unlike

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Speaker 2: any other.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching the players or bay Hill, and I'm

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Speaker 3: excited for the players. Last week bay Hill was great.

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Speaker 2: Nbcuper is all over it too. He was really all

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Speaker 2: into the bay Hill.

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Speaker 3: A couple of sad collapses though, two weeks ago. And

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Speaker 3: then this week Burger was up five. Okhay is awesome.

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Speaker 3: He's very fun to watch. Yeah, the golf ball. But

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Speaker 3: Burger was up five, and really you could there are

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Speaker 3: a few things here there actually got red hot for sure.

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Speaker 3: But Berger on one hole was one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: yards out in the middle of the fairway and yanked

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Speaker 3: it left into a Friday line a bunker, ended up

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Speaker 3: making a boge where part should have been a burdier

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Speaker 3: apart worse. Yeah, and ends up losing in a playoff

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Speaker 3: full to Actua. Was very sad for him. I'm good

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Speaker 3: for Okha.

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Speaker 2: It's a that's a bigger discussion about how golf lays

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Speaker 2: out its calendar, because there was the players is this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, players?

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Speaker 2: So they had moved it at one point, they moved

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Speaker 2: it into May. It's always been around here, but at

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Speaker 2: one point they moved it into May, hoping and that's

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Speaker 2: when the PGA was back in August, so that he

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Speaker 2: would kind of have another bell cow thing. I actually

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Speaker 2: preferred that, I think that to spread it out a

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Speaker 2: little bit because bay Hill it's not obviously it's not

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Speaker 2: what it was when Arnold was alive. It wasn't a

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Speaker 2: great field for some reason. I mean, it was a

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Speaker 2: good field, doesn't great And it's got a big payday

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Speaker 2: to it. It's a twenty million dollars pay day on it.

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Speaker 2: Rory got hurt, Scheffler wasn't in contention. Yeah, yeah, and I.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think they just had riv which was awesome,

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Speaker 3: like you've had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's a lot of it's a lot going on

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Speaker 2: right now, and it's there's a lot going on in

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Speaker 2: the sports world right now. I find that in the summer,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for things, and I know you can't play

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Speaker 2: these Florida tournaments in the summer, but you can play

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Speaker 2: them in the late spring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty easily. So did you see some of the

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Speaker 3: merch they're having for the TPC, like the seventeen's and

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Speaker 3: all this stuff about the seventeenth And it's just it's horrible.

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Speaker 3: It looks like it was the worst that.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to do the waste management thing, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: And then now you have all these upside down letter

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Speaker 3: hats and people are unhappy about that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know. You get I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you this, like my kidsads are fads, it is

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Speaker 2: golf influencer is a massive business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I missed my calling.

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Speaker 2: I think NBC ordered a h he ordered a what

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Speaker 2: are the you know the alignment sticks? Yep? Okay, So

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Speaker 2: he ordered a carrier for his for the alignment sticks?

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Speaker 2: Why And I said, so, why did you do this?

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Speaker 2: I got the notification. I was in Kansas. He ordered

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Speaker 2: it on Beamsy's thing on his green card or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what are you doing with alignment sticks?

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Speaker 2: I go to be honest with you, there's two of

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Speaker 2: us in this conversation. One of us has covered a

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Speaker 2: bunch of PGA Tour events, the other one's never been

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Speaker 2: to a PGA Tour event. I've never seen anybody carrying

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Speaker 2: around alignment sticks in their golf bag. I've played with

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Speaker 2: good players, bad players, all of it. And he goes, well,

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Speaker 2: the guys on on social media do and so all

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Speaker 2: those range. Yeah, so I guess that's what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Is like, I don't know if he's going to put

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he had an alignment stick, okay, but he had.

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Speaker 3: Purchased well, alignmasticks don't need their own bag, which put them.

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Speaker 2: In You and I would agree on this is what

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Speaker 2: is not but the youth, well, no, it's like a

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Speaker 2: alignment stick car It's like a sheath. Think of it

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Speaker 2: like a sword. That's right, that's right, good use of funds.

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Speaker 3: Uh, All right, let's talk about the biggest news because

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Speaker 3: we got to do we got to do that. Uh.

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Speaker 3: There have been at least six sightings of bigfoot in

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Speaker 3: Portage County. Well, this is Bernie's neighborhood from March six,

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Speaker 3: loking around for us. He's already debunked that, and I

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Speaker 3: he's bigfoot. He doesn't have the build for it, at

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Speaker 3: least nine feet tall. We've heard ten feet running with

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Speaker 3: deep vibrating grunt that preceded a forest hush. Physical evidence

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Speaker 3: in the form of oversized muddy footprints were located at

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Speaker 3: the scene. That's in Mantua area, man Away, man Away area. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I feel like that should be Mantua.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but it's man Away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, based on what language I tell that Native American,

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Speaker 3: it seemed like it might be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I said that part in you know.

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Speaker 3: Guess feel like it seems right.

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Speaker 2: That was more of a Ron Burgundy question mark at

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Speaker 2: the end of it. But the first I know it

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Speaker 2: is man Away, Man Yeah, there is spread was memory'd

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it's over man away. Yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 3: feel like they get it. Mantua is something in literature.

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Speaker 2: You went to the private school. Brother, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna fit. I'm gonna look this up. Maybe my model. No,

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Speaker 3: what's Manchua?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get it like shakes quickly. I'm guessing if

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Speaker 2: there is a if there is some of that anyway,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think six percent of the chance that's

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Speaker 3: Is a rever and Bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: It was like a long way to come from the

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Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest. I wonder how he traversed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good do you get there?

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Speaker 2: Amtrak?

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Speaker 3: Maybe through Canada? Maybe went up through Canada, came down.

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Speaker 3: It's a long ways, brother, Well yeah, but he's got

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Speaker 3: he's got a long stride, and he's been walking for

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Speaker 2: We don't know that, we don't know that he isn't

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Speaker 2: what's the life expectancy on a Bigfoot?

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Speaker 3: How would we know? We haven't found any Bigfoot carcasses,

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Speaker 3: So maybe eternal just.

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Speaker 2: One guy, one mythical creature that's been alive for hundreds

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be Harry and the Henderson's. When I

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Speaker 3: was a kid, I wanted Bigfoot to come in.

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Speaker 2: Great fun movie, Yeah, great movie, really nice a TV shows.

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Speaker 2: I do not remember how it ends. I remember that

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Speaker 2: I think the government tries to get him and I,

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Speaker 2: but I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: He just like, no, man, let's go on, Let's go

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Speaker 2: Did they like, let him free? Is that how it goes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Was that a Charles Grodin, wasn't it? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Liftgal? Yeah, lift lift goal. He should be. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I could see him be curmudgeingly about having his

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Speaker 2: Has he ever been non curmudgeony? No, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: I picked up a wine.

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven, nineteen eighty seven on Harry.

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Speaker 3: And I picked up wine that I called the Curmudgeon.

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Speaker 3: My dad said that I had to drink that with him,

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Speaker 3: which I thought was appropriate.

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Speaker 2: He said, you, well, at least he owns it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he knows. Yeah, you know's how that goes?

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Speaker 4: What did? He says?

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Speaker 3: It was actually pretty funny. He said everyone eventually discovers

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Speaker 3: what they do best. That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: So that's good. I've always believed in Bigfoot and the

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Speaker 2: Yetti like my favorite, I believe in one. You might

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Speaker 2: as well have them both.

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Speaker 3: My favorite thing was and there's so much lore to

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Speaker 3: the Yetti and the Himalias.

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Speaker 2: What do you feel about luckness?

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Speaker 3: It's hard for me to think that there's a dinosaur

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Speaker 3: like a diplodocus, sure, just hanging around in a lake

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Speaker 3: that nobody sees. Yeah, you know, and you could.

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Speaker 2: Say, well, the more confined space I think makes it

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Speaker 3: Be able to go through there with throw a submarine

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Speaker 3: in there and let's see what's going on in there,

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Speaker 3: like the sonar, we'd get imaging. Whereas you're talking about Bigfoot,

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Speaker 3: he could be anywhere in the Great Wilderness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a vast and when you fly.

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Speaker 3: As people are wont to do from time to time.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say you fly from Ohio to San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: you realize pretty quickly that the majority of that flight's

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Speaker 3: over absolutely nothing in terms of civilization.

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Speaker 2: True, but the majority of that flight is also not

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Speaker 2: only overte a, great grass all of that. It's really

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Speaker 2: Floyd that you really get the opportunity to see. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is where you could really have a hard time

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Speaker 2: finding out. Of course, sure, but drop somebody off of

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Speaker 2: the Bob Marshall Wilderness. You're gonna have a big foot

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Speaker 2: disappear anytime he wants.

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Speaker 3: Anytime he wants. And then the YETI is in the hamalias,

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Speaker 3: which I like to say it that way. I know

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Speaker 3: you can go both, you know, Himalaya, I like Kamali.

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Speaker 3: That's how many of the great explorers called it. The

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Speaker 3: name of a pepper ghost. Yeah, it was a name

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Speaker 3: of pepper Carolina reaper. Also sure zam pepper. We can

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Speaker 3: we could do that for the bell, red bell, green bell.

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Speaker 2: You get a lot of pepper.

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Speaker 3: Bell, orange bell. Orange bell is a nice bell. Pepper

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Speaker 3: doesn't get enough run. I never understood inherent sweetness as

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Speaker 3: a kid. We were a green pepper family, the worst

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Speaker 3: of the peppers. Well, of course we're fiscally responsible on

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Speaker 3: the Ponderosa. I mean, my mom was out pepper, but

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Speaker 3: also pretty remote, so it's not like you had a

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Speaker 3: big pepper option. So yeah, it was rare that you

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Speaker 3: Red Pepper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what there's really, that's where your favorite is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a spot. I did love the the the

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Speaker 3: Matter Horn right at Disneyland as a child. That was

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Speaker 3: like my favorite rite ever and those Bomble Snowmen they're

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Speaker 3: my favorite. And then now ever Sexpedition also great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, those are good and we have

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Speaker 2: some action since we got off the air. You and

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Speaker 2: I no the team per Jordan Schultz. Quincy Williams comes

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Speaker 2: into the mix his eighth season in the NFL. Spent

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Speaker 2: Now I feel like I should you will as soon

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Speaker 2: Of course, the g man knows. Yeah, John Morant. He

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Speaker 2: There's a yeah, Oh, I think maybe they just missed

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Speaker 3: So how about it?

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Speaker 2: Football is a small world, man, Yes it is. It

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's it. That's that's it, and Tyson Campbell's good.

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Speaker 3: You don't bring in Geno Smith in? Yes, you could say, well,

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Speaker 2: But you had mentioned this yesterday. Romeo Dobbs, what's he

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Speaker 2: On yes, on every level, on a level founded Michael

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Speaker 2: Obviously fell out of favor a little bit with Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Quincy's He's still a good player. I think you

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Speaker 6: you could just see the sideline to sideline speed. That's

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Speaker 6: what he brings. He is. He is one of the

435
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Speaker 6: fastest linebackers that I've seen. You could look at all

436
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Speaker 6: the GPS tracking, I think that'll probably confirm that. And

437
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Speaker 6: he gradually got better and better, and then he finally

438
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Speaker 6: made that first team All Pro, which you know, he

439
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Speaker 6: got a contract extension and then went out and made

440
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Speaker 6: first team All Pro and had you know, some really

441
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Speaker 6: good years for the Jets. This year, it just didn't

442
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Speaker 6: click for a variety of reasons. But I think they're

443
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Speaker 6: getting a good player. I think Rudy will tailor the scheme.

444
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Speaker 6: You know, they're going to put him in good spots.

445
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Speaker 6: Let's put it that way. I think the Jets tried

446
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Speaker 6: to make him more of a downhill linebacker as opposed

447
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Speaker 6: to a sideline to sideline guy. And he's not a

448
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Speaker 6: downhill linebacker. He's only five ten if that, and he's

449
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Speaker 6: about two hundred and thirty pounds. He's he's a smaller

450
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Speaker 6: type guy. You got to get him moving horizontally east west,

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Speaker 6: and I think Rudy will do that.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Rudy a couple of times. Mike Gruenberg our

453
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Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator over here. He had a meeting with

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Speaker 2: the media last week. Obviously you know him pretty well.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this opportunity for him and

456
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Speaker 2: what do you think he does with it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's a great opportunity for him. He's paid,

458
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Speaker 6: he's paid his Dues as a position coach, you know,

459
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Speaker 6: I you know, he left Sala to go to take

460
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Speaker 6: this job, you know, to get the bump up, you know,

461
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Speaker 6: to be a coordinator. You know, we didn't have a

462
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Speaker 6: lot of exposure to Rudy, you know, because he was

463
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Speaker 6: a linebacker's coach with the Jets. But you know, they

464
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Speaker 6: did their defense was really good under Salad. They had

465
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Speaker 6: a couple of years there where they were, you know,

466
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Speaker 6: in the top five and defense and you know, scoring

467
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Speaker 6: and the yards allowed, and a lot of it was

468
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Speaker 6: because of their linebacker played. And he had a couple

469
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Speaker 6: of good ones. He had. He had Quincy, and he

470
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Speaker 6: had CJ. Moseley for a couple of years. So CJ, yeah,

471
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Speaker 6: unfortunately got old and had a neck injury and had

472
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Speaker 6: to retire. But he was a tremendous stabilizing force in

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Speaker 6: that locker room. And I know, I've talked to Quincy

474
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Speaker 6: a number of times at how much CJ meant to

475
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Speaker 6: him and meant to that group. So Rudy was surrounded

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Speaker 6: by some real good players and they and Rudy was

477
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Speaker 6: responsible for, you know, partly responsible him and Sala for

478
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Speaker 6: converting Jamie Sherwood into a safety from safety to linebacker.

479
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Speaker 6: He was a college safety at Auburn. The Jets drafted

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Speaker 6: him in the fifth round in twenty twenty two, and

481
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Speaker 6: he was really completely out of his elements that first

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Speaker 6: year as a linebacker. But they gradually, you know, they

483
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Speaker 6: they made him. They got him bigger, and they got

484
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Speaker 6: him playing linebacker and to the point where the Jets

485
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Speaker 6: gave him a three year, forty five million dollar contract

486
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Speaker 6: extension last year. And I think if you asked Jamie Sherwood,

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Speaker 6: he would say a lot of that. You know, he's

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Speaker 6: entiled a lot of gratitude towards Rudy for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're excited to have Rudy a lot of good

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Speaker 3: energy and we'll see how that translates. Obviously coming into

491
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Speaker 3: a pretty good system or a pretty good situation where

492
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Speaker 3: we have a lot of talent on that defensive side

493
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Speaker 3: of the ball. Quincy Williams now adding to that, replacing

494
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Speaker 3: the departed Devin Bush, I want to ask you about

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Speaker 3: the Jets. What do you kind of make of what

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Speaker 3: the Jets are doing right now because they're bringing in

497
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Speaker 3: a lot of older guys who have been productive in

498
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Speaker 3: this league to try to maybe be a little bit

499
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Speaker 3: of a stop gap here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, you look at it from like

501
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Speaker 6: thirty thousand feet and you say, what the heck are

502
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Speaker 6: they doing? I mean, they're not a win now team.

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Speaker 6: I think we can all agree on that. I mean,

504
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Speaker 6: they're three and fourteen last year and they still have

505
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Speaker 6: major questions, so they're not a win now team. But

506
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Speaker 6: yet they're going about it as if there are a

507
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Speaker 6: couple of players away by plugging in some veteran guys

508
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Speaker 6: like Damario Davis and make up Fitzpatrick. And today they

509
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Speaker 6: traded for Gino Smith. So you're looking at it and say,

510
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Speaker 6: what the hell are they doing? But I kind of

511
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Speaker 6: get what they're doing. On defense in particular, they needed

512
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Speaker 6: to change the personality of their defense. There were a

513
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Speaker 6: lot of guys last year there was no leadership on

514
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Speaker 6: that defense. There was no accountability, There was a lot

515
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Speaker 6: of lack of discipline. They just didn't have a guy

516
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Speaker 6: who could kick butt, you know, and get everybody in line.

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Speaker 6: And now they do. You know, they have Jamario Davis

518
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Speaker 6: coming in, who's really one of the great leaders I've

519
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Speaker 6: been around in football. Of course, he's been with the

520
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Speaker 6: Jets twice before, and so and then they get Mika Fitzpatrick,

521
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Speaker 6: and so I think they'll be better from a character standpoint,

522
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Speaker 6: the leadership standpoint, The Gino Smith move today is just

523
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Speaker 6: sheer desperation. There's no other way to say it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: there's just not a lot of quarterbacks out there on

525
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Speaker 6: the market who were starting guys. They traded for him

526
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Speaker 6: because they were afraid he might sign elsewhere when they

527
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Speaker 6: when he gets cut tomorrow. So it's I never would

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Speaker 6: have imagined Dino back in New York. It was a

529
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Speaker 6: very turbulent time about a decade ago. Is a very

530
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Speaker 6: unlikely football reunion, to say the least. But here he is,

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Speaker 6: He's back. He hasn't played well in a couple of years,

532
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Speaker 6: So I'm not sure where this is going to go.

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Speaker 6: I think it's, really, like I said, a desperation move.

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Speaker 2: Rich. We know you got to run. You got to

535
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Speaker 2: get out of here. Last thought from thirty thousand feet,

536
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, from my vantage point, I go boy,

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Speaker 2: five first round picks. If I'm Jets, if I'm the Jets,

538
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Speaker 2: if I'm the fans, I want to make sure I'm

539
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Speaker 2: picking number one in twenty twenty seven in that draft.

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Speaker 2: Where is the fan base with where this team is

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Speaker 2: now and where it's going.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's split. You know, there is this.

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Speaker 6: It's just weird. It's a weird. It's going to be

544
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Speaker 6: a weird dynamic all year because I mean, look, the

545
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Speaker 6: Jets are trying to thread a needle here. The coach

546
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Speaker 6: has got to win some games this year. Aaron if

547
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Speaker 6: Eron goes three and fourteen again, he's getting he's getting

548
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Speaker 6: kicked out there. So he's got to win, you know,

549
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Speaker 6: six or seven or eight games just to show progress.

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Speaker 6: So he's trying to win. Now. I think if you

551
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Speaker 6: ask the fan, I'd say fifty percent of them would say,

552
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Speaker 6: I don't want to win now. You know, I want

553
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Speaker 6: to get the first pick in the draft and take

554
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Speaker 6: Arch Manning or Dante Moore or one of those guys.

555
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 6: Is supposedly going to be a loaded quarterback class. And

556
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Speaker 6: so because even though you have three first round picks

557
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Speaker 6: in twenty seven, that doesn't guarantee you to get to

558
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Speaker 6: number one. What if the team who's picking first, like

559
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Speaker 6: this year with the Raiders, you know, you could offer

560
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 6: them the sun and the moon. They're not moving, so

561
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Speaker 6: they're going to take the quarterbacks. So it's it's the

562
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Speaker 6: Jets are trying to do something. It's a very delicate balance.

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Speaker 6: I think half the fan base is thrilled that they

564
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Speaker 6: got Geno Smith because they think he's a terrible quarterback

565
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Speaker 6: and he'll he'll get him the first pick in the

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Speaker 6: draft next year. And the other half is thinking that

567
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Speaker 6: maybe maybe they could squeeze a halfway decent year out

568
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Speaker 6: of him and get back to being a five hundred team.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. It's a confusing time around the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Rich are the best. We know you're busy. We'll let

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Speaker 2: you go. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 6: You're welcome. Take care by Now.

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Speaker 2: There's something he said there in that answer that deserves

574
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a bigger examination. We can do that.

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Speaker 2: Get into the most recent mock draft from Field Yates

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Speaker 2: interesting about the needle that the Jets are trying to thread.

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Speaker 2: And this is why NFL team building can be so difficult,

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Speaker 2: because you have to have alignment from the top all

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Speaker 2: the way through football ops, through coaching, through all of it,

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Speaker 2: and you have to be able to withstand the suffering

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Speaker 2: of losing. If you do so, it can net results

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Speaker 2: for sure. Sometimes though even with all of the right

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Speaker 2: plan it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And when I was listening to him talk about the Jets,

597
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Speaker 2: I look at the Jets from thirty thousand feet and

598
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: if I'm Woody Johnson, I say, I don't say this publicly,

599
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: but I say, I really don't care if we win

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, because what I want is you

601
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Speaker 2: to land two blue chip prospects with their two first

602
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: round picks in twenty twenty six, and then I need

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Speaker 2: three and twenty twenty seven, and one of the three

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty seven. Better be the face of this franchise. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I better make sure that I get the pick

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Speaker 2: of that quarterback class. I don't want to have to.

607
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Rich made a great point about, like Mendoza, this notion about, oh,

608
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: we're stockpiling assets to so we can trade up to

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Speaker 2: get a quarterback. No one ever trades a quarterback the

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Speaker 2: ability to draft a quarterback if it's if you don't

611
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Speaker 2: have one, you don't already have one, You do not

612
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Speaker 2: trade out of one. If there is a draft that

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Speaker 2: has the dude in.

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Speaker 3: It, well, you need You need to have a situation

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00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: like the Bears had Justin Fields, yes, or the Titans

616
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Speaker 3: had just drafted Marcus Mariota Mariota yep, and so the

617
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Rams are able to get Jared Goff that you need

618
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Speaker 3: that situation. Now. I think history would show, in the

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Speaker 3: case of both Marcus Mariota and in the case of

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields, that you would not do that. You would say, no,

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Speaker 3: let me just take if I think this guy's better,

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Speaker 3: let me just take this guy. And I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to trade out now. From the Bears standpoint, though, it

624
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: also worked out.

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Speaker 2: Great, Oh my gosh, yeah, they hit, But you.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't count that franchise than not giving you the number

627
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Speaker 3: one pick the next year.

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Speaker 2: But that franchise has probably had the worst. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they've had among the worst. Now they have a Super

630
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Speaker 2: Bowl championship in eighty five, But you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about missing on picks, they've had a lot of that

632
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Speaker 2: in their history. Not the worst, but it's in the

633
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Speaker 2: vicinity if you think go back up the last in

634
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Speaker 2: our lifetime, think about all the misses that they've had,

635
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Speaker 2: a ton at quarterback, all of it. And somehow the

636
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Speaker 2: timing was right where they still weren't all the way sold,

637
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 2: they weren't all the way out on fields. Yep, they

638
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: had seen enough that they wanted to see more. And

639
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Speaker 2: the bounty they got back from Carolina was so immense.

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Speaker 2: And then what you didn't realize, of course, was that

641
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Speaker 2: no one would have ever guessed the Caroline is going

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Speaker 2: to be the worst, even for me right back. And

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Speaker 2: then it was a situation where if you're with them,

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Speaker 2: you're like, well, now I got five years of Caleb

645
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Speaker 2: Williams versus having to make a decision on paying justin

646
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Speaker 2: Fields or not. Yeah, Williams was a much cleaner prospect

647
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Speaker 2: than Fields. Was coming out of college, even though Fields,

648
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Speaker 2: you know, was thought well of coming out of college,

649
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: not like Caleb. Like Caleb was the one, and that

650
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: was it. And so now all of a sudden, the

651
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: Bears are set up for the next ten years really

652
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: to be contenders in the NFC, legitimate contenders in the NFC.

653
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: But if I'm Woody Johnson, that's where my head's at.

654
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: I am not in the business of trying to win

655
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: six games. So that with a bunch of veterans like

656
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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

657
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: It as a team that's kind of lived through that.

658
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: The hard part about that is that is not going

659
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: to be the mindset of any coach. No, and you

660
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: can look at you know, Kevin Stefanski and I don't

661
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: know if you ever even talked about this, but there

662
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: was Kevin's fancy on pardon my take, said that he

663
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: was told the Thursday before the season finale that he

664
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Speaker 3: was going to be let go at the end.

665
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Speaker 6: Of the year.

666
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: That's no, you and I have not talked about that.

667
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: No, that was at the combine.

668
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: At the combine he said that with Big Cat and

669
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: PFT and then off. How did I not you were off?

670
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Because it was that Thursday, you was oh, oh yeah,

671
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: okay at the end of the combine week.

672
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: End of the combine week.

673
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, and he still went out there and coached his

674
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: team to win. Lovey Smith knew he was going to

675
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: be gone in Houston. Yeah, and he went out there

676
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: and coaches to win. And now that those out too

677
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: for sure. But I'm just saying, if you go back,

678
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: if you go back to twenty and sixteen, now now

679
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: you're on yeah with us, Like I don't think Hugh Jackson.

680
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: I know Hugh Jackson at the time didn't understand really

681
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: what was going on. Yeah, in terms of he was

682
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: coming in here in his mind like to win. What

683
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: do you mean we want to do all these things

684
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: and then be able to win, Not that we were

685
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: actively not trying to win, but then you're you're threading

686
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: a needle. You're trying to accumulate assets, You're trying to

687
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: get to yourself position to get those people that are

688
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: the franchise changers. And with the way that the NFL

689
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: is set up, the only way to get a franchise

690
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: changer is to hit on drafting a quarterback at any

691
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: point in the draft. But typically as we've gone through

692
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: ad nauseum that comes from the top of the first round.

693
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: The only way to pick at the top of the

694
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 3: first round is to be bad yep. Or to have

695
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: made a trade with a team that ends up being

696
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: bad yep. Yeah, that's it. Or the top guys do

697
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: not become available, they just don't. They don't get traded.

698
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: The Browns out because of off the field issues, an

699
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: opportunity to get who was at the time a top

700
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Speaker 3: quarterback in terms of performance, Deshaun Watson. That just hasn't

701
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: manifested itself. But that's really what it is. So if

702
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: you have an ownership and a fan base, that really

703
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: is like, well, certainly an ownership, because the fan base

704
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: can say that they don't want to win and we

705
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: want to get the next year. But it's miserable going

706
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Speaker 3: through it.

707
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Speaker 4: Dude.

708
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Speaker 2: You and I have talked about this, and it's easy

709
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: for a fan base to say, let's make sure we're

710
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: picking number one overall. But when you go to the

711
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: stadium on a Sunday, they're not rooting against the home team.

712
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: They're rooting for wins. Yes, you've been in that stadium.

713
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: I've been in that stadium where you're a big picture

714
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: because you can't help. But this is what we do.

715
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: We're prognosticating, all right, what's a better I'd rather be

716
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: picking number one in this draft than six. Yep, Like

717
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: that's just it. You would And so the reality is that,

718
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: But as you're sitting there and a lot of those

719
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: fans are thinking, they have the same information we do,

720
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: you know that when it comes down to it, once

721
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: the season is lost, it's better to lose than to win.

722
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: Unless you have a young team that you're trying to

723
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: build character and you're trying to build culture and all

724
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: of those things. Then, like for us in eighteen with

725
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: Bake his rookie year, like the last six to seven

726
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: games of that season were instrumental in building momentum for

727
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: what should have happened in nineteen. It didn't, but that's

728
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: that was critical in that moment. That was a critical time. Now,

729
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: if you think about the people who are in the arena,

730
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: if you think people go down to the stadium and

731
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: sit there in December, they want to go home happy,

732
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: having money well spent to watch a win. Yes, even

733
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: though the smarter play is to not in many instances,

734
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: once you're not in the playoffs, what's the point of chasing.

735
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: But then you, you and I come on into victory

736
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: Monday and we're like, God, that was fun. It's fun

737
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: to win. So when Rich said that, and I thought

738
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: his I think it's the number is the correct number.

739
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: He said about fifty to fifty half the fans are

740
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: saying what are we doing? The other half just wants

741
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: to win some games one hundred percent. It's really tough.

742
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: It's hard.

743
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: I do think it's easier to rationalize, like towards the

744
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: end of a season that has gone away, to say, okay,

745
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: let's just but that's not the players don't play oose. No,

746
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: you risk way too much. You're risking significant injury. Like

747
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: we love Jeremiahusu Cormo. But and it appears not But

748
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: and it appears that his career ended in an instant.

749
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: You know, you hope that's not the case, but that's

750
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: what it appears right now. That can happen in any game,

751
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: whether it's a game that you're going out there trying

752
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: to let's just get through it and lose. When you

753
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 3: don't play hard people, that's how people with football players.

754
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: So that's when you do get her, you get her

755
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: playing hard. Obviously, as we know that as well. It's

756
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: just it's not a game that lends itself that basketball

757
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 3: guys that go through the motions, collect their stats and

758
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: just like let it go. Football is not like that.

759
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: And so it's the it's so easy to say in

760
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: a simulation where you can just be like sim the

761
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: next season, all right, we're gonna tank the season. Sim

762
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: the next season. Now we got arch manning. But there's

763
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: a lot of pain that goes along the way trying

764
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: to do it. And Aaron Glenn, he's probably waited a

765
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: long time to be a head coach. He feels like

766
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: he got he got embarrassed last year. Yeah, has fired

767
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: everybody around him and now he knows it's it's sink

768
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: or swim and he's been able to and good for him.

769
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, convince a front office that this

770
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: is what we're gonna do. We're gonna bring in all

771
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: these old guys who are pretty good that we can

772
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: you know, cobble together a winning team.

773
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Speaker 4: We're going to be.

774
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: Competitive, We're gonna we're certainly a try. Here's the other

775
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: thing on that. As you were talking about the players,

776
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: even the ones who are long term invested, I don't

777
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: think they think beyond the season. They're in the moment,

778
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: they're in the game, they're in.

779
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't think beyond the week.

780
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: Right now.

781
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: They're not thinking about like they're out there surviving. This

782
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: is a collision sport. It's not a contact sport. It's

783
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: a collision sport. You're every single time that there is

784
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: a play, it might be your last. You don't ask

785
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: Jeremiah to your point, and you don't know when it's

786
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: all going to go away. And so they're not thinking.

787
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: They just want to feel good on a and do

788
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: their job well. So this it goes back to, you know,

789
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: something that I think the NFL ought to look into.

790
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: I know you're against it, but I do think a

791
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: draft lottery would be a beneficial thing for the league.

792
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun for starters to have one

793
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: awighted lottery, and I do think that it would keep

794
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: this kind of it would minimize this a little bit. Now,

795
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: as I say this, I acknowledge that the NBA right

796
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: now has a draft lottery, and this is a truly

797
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: this might be the best NBA drafts And so three

798
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: the Lebron Draft, the talent that's in it and It's

799
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: very possible that there are upwards of six or seven

800
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: teams in that league who are actively tanking for better odds,

801
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: so it doesn't eliminate it at all. But I also

802
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: think basketball and football are a little bit there are

803
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: little apples avocados in the standpoint of the physical toll

804
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: that it takes with it with basketball. So I don't

805
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: know if the tanking, I don't know if the lottery

806
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: would fix it or not.

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00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: Here's my biggest issue with the lottery, and this is

808
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: going to be you can you can go ahead and

809
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: I'll be you know when Bill Simmons conspiracy Bill conspiracy

810
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: date yeap at the end of the day. Yeah, this

811
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: is a league that's purpose is to make money, and

812
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: clearly business is good. Salary caps we talked about is

813
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: going up and up and up. You cannot convince me.

814
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: I will not be convinced. You can try. I won't

815
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: be convinced unless you were actually someone that was in

816
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: that room, and then I could also we could verify them,

817
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: you know the veracity of your statements. You cannot convince

818
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: me that these lotteries happen in a above board manner.

819
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: And I know that sounds crazy. To say, but you

820
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: cannot convince that Patrick Ewing just happened to end up

821
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: in New York. You can't convince me Lebron James just

822
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: happened to end up here in Cleveland like they are

823
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: making it just happened. It's a business.

824
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: Why do you think my kids buying every bait set

825
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: of basketball cards on the planet right now?

826
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: Flag, you're gonna trade Luke at La and Oh Cooper,

827
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Flag's gonna magically. And they didn't have the best hope,

828
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Speaker 3: Oh god.

829
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Speaker 2: They weren't even that. They were so competitive.

830
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: So to me, that's why you can't do it, because

831
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: ultimately they're gonna put those things where they think they're

832
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: best for business. I think that's just the reality of

833
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: the situation. There are cases were maybe.

834
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: Not Yeah, I mean the NBA sent Zign Williamson to

835
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: New Orleans and John Moranto Memphis, and so there are

836
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: examples of well, this isn't probably where we ideally like

837
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: them to be. But yeah, I think your overall point is.

838
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: And I think the NFL that is too big of money.

839
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: It is too big a business. The temptation could be

840
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: too great.

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Speaker 2: What if there was a lottery among like let's say

842
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Speaker 2: three teams three and fourteen lottery, those three.

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844
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845
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846
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847
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Speaker 4: Yep.

848
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Speaker 2: So I think you solved it. We were so before,

849
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: we were so rudely interrupted by our own undoing.

850
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Speaker 3: We don't even know what was there.

851
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: We don't know if what was But.

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00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: I think I think you nailed it. Yeah, that's that

853
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: solves it. I'm with you on that. You are you

854
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: went one in sixteen. You have ten balls. Count them.

855
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: Here's ten, that boom, here's nine, here's eight, count them,

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00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: pop them out the end, live, let's go. I'm in

857
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: all on.

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: It's all TV shows anyway.

859
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: That's all it is. You imagine we already.

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Speaker 3: I needn't rephrase that. I'd say something that you're not

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00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: going to go. I tell where you're going.

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00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: You manage. If you had an NFL Draft lottery before

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: the combine TV, yeah, it would.

864
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Be awesome bonanza, of course, but it's gotta be that

865
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: you're coming around. You just want it all disclosure.

866
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I can do that I'll work on

867
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: my people.

868
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: And it needs to be still heavily weighted. It needs

869
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: to be well. I like to me, if you're the worst,

870
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: you still should have like a fifty percent chance.

871
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: But if you're only the worst by one game, then

872
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that if you're two and fifteen and

873
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 2: the other ones three and fourteen.

874
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: Like, if you're like tenth, you get like a ball.

875
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but like there's not much of a dip.

876
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: Tho I find fifty forty eight, But then all of

877
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: a sudden you have to do the mask. Gotta be

878
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: like the teams that are okay, then maybe the three

879
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: bottom team should have two thirds of the balls, and

880
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: then you can figure out after those if your.

881
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Fourth case, that would really stink for us because some

882
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: point you have to pick six and it's one game.

883
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: So then the next three would get of the remaining

884
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: thirty three percent, they would get twenty five percent, and

885
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: then down the line. It's like anything you have a cutoff,

886
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: its something it's got. The college football playoffs can be

887
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: eighty eight teams like at some point like sorry, I'm

888
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: your team eighty nine, Sorry about it?

889
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, the good news is I think all this

890
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: news today crashed the internet. Re signed Tevin Jenkins.

891
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go, all right, and Adam Schefter,

892
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: So there's news. Adam Schefter lots of nuggets. On the

893
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: Pat McAfee show today, he said, number one about us,

894
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: there are people out there who believed Deshaun Watson's gonna

895
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: be starting quarterback for the clean Browns on opening day.

896
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: About Brian Thomas, why don't you just give me a

897
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: go ahead and kick me, he said, is in fact,

898
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: they are not interested. The Jags are not at all

899
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: interested in trading Brian Thomas. That that is fake news.

900
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: Do you read anything into the the Jenkins re signing

901
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: with Joel No.

902
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: I think he was. He's gonna be the swing anyway.

903
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Swing, okay, field the eights with a quick top ten

904
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: mock draft into free agency. Not really many changes here.

905
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: The only thing that that kind of jumps out is

906
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes go three four, five, Reese three to the Cardinals,

907
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Tape four to the Titans, and the Giants with Caleb

908
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: Downs at five. I'm gonna have to get used to

909
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: saying this guy's name, say it out loud so that

910
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: then I'll never mess it up. Again, Malui Noah, Maui Noah,

911
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: Francis Francis mau Maui Noah from the kind of like Mantua,

912
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: a little bit like Manoway.

913
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: That's right.

914
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: So there's not even in the name.

915
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, that's that's yeah, Malui Noah, there's no

916
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: there's no w in what do you call it? Man Away?

917
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: There's no w in there.

918
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: No, there's not, No, there's not.

919
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: It's also like Russia being called Rushie here in Ohio

920
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: to that.

921
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: We do a lot of those.

922
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: There's a.

923
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Ohio, there's a Rustio Highend it's spelled Russia.

924
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: Yes.

925
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a Cold War thing, don't you think

926
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, we don't want to do We're

927
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: gonna change the change the way we pronounce it.

928
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: It is interesting, though, if you have a town here

929
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: that's spelled like the town of Manchua, man Away from

930
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: Romeo and Juliet.

931
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

932
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: Yep, I would have it feels like likely that predates

933
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: man Away. I would say, yeah, so how do we

934
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: how does that happened? Man Way just.

935
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: Out here trying to get to five o'clock. Brother, that's

936
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: a heavy one.

937
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: Man Away, who's the person that founded man away and

938
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: why have they called it.

939
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the bottom of it, Ohio. I

940
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: bet Young Gabriel knows he'll get to the bottom of it.

941
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Rounding out the top ten the Comedies with Jeremiah. That

942
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: would make a lot of sense for them at seven

943
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: based on what they've done in free agency, and that'd

944
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: be a nice fit for them. Sunny Styles to the

945
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Saints at number eight to replace the Mario Davis absolutely

946
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: Monsieur delaying the corner out of LSU to the Chiefs.

947
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: So now they can do this because they've already addressed

948
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: everything else.

949
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Yep, and this is replaces the corner they just traded yep.

950
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: And then Reuben Bain to the Bengals at ten, so

951
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: that would replace Hendrickson theoretically. Maybe they got a boy

952
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: a Mafe you need one, Yeah, and they have Shamar

953
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: Stewart too, are they just drafted last year?

954
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: So all right, there you go.

955
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little fun here. In the final

956
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: hour of the program, a Cleveland Browns Daily Fan Vote

957
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: bracket will go around the sports world. This is your

958
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: weekend and review, right because we'd have time for it yesterday. Yeah,

959
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: did take We've taken a few things things out, all right,

960
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: so we'll get into all of that. It's coming up

961
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,359
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Speaker 2: for true Browns fans. All right, it is March. We're

973
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: gonna have a bracket. That's right, This is the CBD

974
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Fan Vote bracket. We're gonna do this weekly. Is that

975
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: the plan?

976
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: That's our game plan? All right, I'm gonna do this one.

977
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: By the way, as I watched the IT people run

978
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: back and forth, that pretty much verifies what's going on

979
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 4: in our building.

980
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: Right now.

981
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: From an Internet standpoint, I'm like, all right, great, it's

982
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 4: not just limited in here. Let's hope it all everywhere.

983
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure Kevin, you're hanging out. I mean, you're

984
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: doing the best you can.

985
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: Buddy.

986
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

987
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: This week's topper and honor free agency best Brown's off

988
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: season acquisition since returning in nineteen ninety nine. We will

989
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: determine the seating. We have twelve players, four buys the

990
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: first round. We will be made live when seating is determined.

991
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: All right, so how do we define best?

992
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 6: I know it.

993
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: I swear I'm going right away this is gonna be

994
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: really true.

995
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 3: How do we I think it? To me, it's more

996
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: most exciting.

997
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: So I think there's two silos you can put these in.

998
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: It's about It can either be the buzz buzz.

999
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: When acquired, or it can be boy, that was a

1000
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: great signing. And in fact, I think you can look

1001
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: at the two LSU receivers we had the buzz. I mean,

1002
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: there was certainly juice for Jarvis. Absolutely, Like you knew

1003
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: at the time, he had accumulated more receptions than anybody

1004
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: in NFL history to start a career. So he was

1005
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: actually incredibly productive at Miami, and then I think he

1006
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: is as responsible as anyone for flipping the culture in

1007
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: this building. And you think about the contagious line from

1008
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks all that went with that. We saw his

1009
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: leadership every day, like he held people accountable, like he

1010
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: was a one man culture tornado. But Odell, the acquisition

1011
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: of Odell Beckham Junior felt in the moment like that

1012
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: was the final piece.

1013
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: To a Super Bowl cover of Sports Illustrated.

1014
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like number one podcast in the world. You and

1015
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: I on phones for twenty minutes.

1016
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. It's riveting.

1017
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: It was.

1018
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: It was. I think it deceds it. I think that's

1019
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: really the problem is if it's on Buzz, that's gonna win.

1020
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: He's a one see, but I think he's unbeatable. Yeah

1021
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: so I think, but I kind of think it should

1022
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: be ranked on Buzz.

1023
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: So maybe it's can you factor in everything or no?

1024
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: If you factor in everything, then I think Odell is,

1025
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: like I mean, factor again, anything makes it very I

1026
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: think Jarvis is the one seed of factor in everything.

1027
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Then if you think about the acquisition, time of acquisition,

1028
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: and then what he brought while he was here, to me,

1029
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: he feels like the one seed of my time here,

1030
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: he's a one seed.

1031
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: I can't argue with that.

1032
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter if he's a one or

1033
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: a two. It really doesn't matter, because they're gonna be

1034
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 3: the top seeds on the other sides of the of

1035
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: the the brackets. So to me, Odell is a one.

1036
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Joe Omari was was Was it Amari a trade?

1037
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1038
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 2: This is best off season acquisition trade. Yeah that's right.

1039
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Odell the one, Jarvis is the two.

1040
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: I think.

1041
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: Beyond that, Yeah, how do you do that? How do

1042
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: you factor in?

1043
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: So they're on opposite sides of the bracket, which is

1044
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: all that meant?

1045
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 4: Like, didn't Jarvis, didn't Dorsey go? He went full dors

1046
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: on a Friday night. It was Mac Tournament. He got

1047
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: to Marius Randall for Deshaun Kaiser out of Green Bay. Yeah,

1048
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: he got Landry and I feel like he made a

1049
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: third trade there as well on that Friday night. It

1050
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 4: all happened on a Friday. Yeah.

1051
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing this at that time, but I do

1052
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: remember being like, wow, that were his first moves. Yeah,

1053
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: that was a haul of a weekend. You're right, it

1054
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: was around this time when he did all of it. Yeah,

1055
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: you'd have to speak to us on Jamal Lewis, I can.

1056
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: I have to imagine that felt like a big deal.

1057
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: He had two one thousand yard seasons. He was the

1058
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: first one since I think one of the Pruets to

1059
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: go back to back one thousand yard rushing seasons, and

1060
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 4: at the time of acquisition, it had to felt two

1061
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: thousand it's the season of dreams. Yep, like the third

1062
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: season had fell off. He reached the end. But Jamal

1063
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: Lewis was a big acquisition, all right.

1064
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: So was he a free agent?

1065
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: I believe so.

1066
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: So first year, so his last year in Baltimore. I

1067
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: mean it started to fade in Baltimore. It's three and

1068
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: a half yards of carry on the average the last

1069
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: two years, and then he comes here seven. He goes

1070
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: nuts to ninety eight, two hundred ninety eight carries for

1071
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: thirteen oh four four and a half a carry. Then

1072
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: the next year he's one thousand and two three point six,

1073
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: and then it's then it's kind of cooked at that point.

1074
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: But he is a part of the magical season of

1075
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, of course, which doesn't even manifest

1076
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: in a playoff. But he went ten and six and

1077
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: a fun season, Derek Anderson and all of it. Okay, Like,

1078
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I guess we should get to work of trying to

1079
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: see these out.

1080
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: So and if we decide that we only want eight

1081
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 4: because we're a day late because we wanted to hopefully

1082
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: launch this yesterday, but obviously there was a lot going on,

1083
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 4: we can only do We don't have to do all twelve,

1084
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: we can do eight. We were just coming up with, Yeah,

1085
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: you know, these are the these are the.

1086
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: Ones defense to Chris Gardaci.

1087
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 6: But I mean.

1088
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: Chris Gardaki at one point was the MVP of this

1089
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: football team.

1090
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: That's that's more. Yeah, yess how do you want to

1091
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: do this?

1092
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: If I'm doing I'm just writing, I'm just going to

1093
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: do eight. Jamiir Miller, you'd have to tell me about

1094
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: that one. So Jamiir Miller was the Browns first Pro bowler. Okay,

1095
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: when since the team came back, he had over one

1096
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: hundred tackles. He had thirteen sacks, so that would be one.

1097
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: Though.

1098
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: Was it a massive EQUI did it feel like a

1099
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: massive acquisition, But that would be more once he got here,

1100
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: he's a dude.

1101
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: No, because he had he was good at Arizona record

1102
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: he was it was like he was better than anything

1103
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 4: we had gotten in the expansion draft. It was his

1104
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: last three years. He only missed one game in three years,

1105
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: and he was good his first two years, but it

1106
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: was two thousand and one. He played in every game.

1107
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: He had fourteen passes, defense, four forced fumbles, thirteen sacks.

1108
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 4: He had one hundred and one tackles. Okay, all right,

1109
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: so he's on the list. So the only I guess eighteen.

1110
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: Let me ask eighty five and one hundred and one

1111
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: in three years.

1112
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, he's on. Let me ask you guys this, if

1113
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: you had to pick one of because I have I

1114
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: have seven that I feel very strongly about it. If

1115
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: you have to pick one of these three I have eight,

1116
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: you can have treder Steinbacher, Zeitler, Seiler. He had this

1117
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: conversation yesterday, Zeitler.

1118
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: I think it's particularly close because then he and he ends.

1119
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Up being all right, So Zeitlerzeitler, that was a big deal.

1120
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: All right.

1121
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: So my eight in order off the top of my head,

1122
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: although maybe Jamiir Miller deserves to be a little bit

1123
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: higher here. Jarvis odell Amari, Jamal Clowney.

1124
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: I have Clowny fourth, So.

1125
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: I have him five. So you and I say it

1126
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: the same way. First, well, right, and it was Jason.

1127
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 2: We're gonna have hold on a second. We have Miles

1128
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: Garrett and Genevian Clowney.

1129
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1130
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: I had to interview a massive conference room in a

1131
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: hotel Isla, Marada. It was that big of a deal, right.

1132
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: And then I have Conklin, Jamiir Miller and Zeitler. Yeah,

1133
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 2: we have the same at So we have the same ete,

1134
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: no prep, no talk about what it could be, but

1135
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: we have the same eight.

1136
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 4: All right, so we're doing eight?

1137
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you do eight.

1138
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: Who's number one?

1139
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter because that one

1140
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: and two are Jarvis and Odell. It doesn't matter.

1141
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: All right. Well, then who's number three is?

1142
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: I let's go Jarvis one, because he's I think I'll

1143
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: break the Jarvis. Yeah, he's doing this.

1144
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: He's just going right back, all right.

1145
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: So oh, there it is there.

1146
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 6: It is.

1147
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: Jarvis, Odell, Amari or Jamal Lewis.

1148
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: I think Amar because you went to the playoffs with

1149
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: the Maury Well so and Amari.

1150
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: Maury had the single season, He's got the single game record,

1151
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: he was the isn't he the first Browns receiver ever

1152
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: to have back to back thousand yard seasons. He was

1153
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: a four time Pro bowler by the time we got him.

1154
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amari three.

1155
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: I think Amri's three, Jamal four.

1156
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: Or you went Clowny four. I could do either one there.

1157
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Clownyfoo was a big deal man. That was a big deal.

1158
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: So Jamal Lewis by the time we got him was

1159
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: coming off of a good season eleven hundred and thirteen yards.

1160
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: Ran for thirteen oh four and nine the first year,

1161
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: then one thousand and two, then five hundred. His best

1162
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: season was two thousand and three when he led the

1163
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 3: league with two thousand and sixty six yards, and he

1164
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: was the first team.

1165
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: Five hundred yards against US.

1166
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: But it's three and a half yards of carry last

1167
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: two years in Baltimore, like my hunches that it kind

1168
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: of felt like he was wearing him now. Yeah, and

1169
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: then he exceeded. Yeah, totally for sure. I'm good with

1170
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: Clowney at four. Yeah, I'm good with Clowney. Was when

1171
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: we sat Clowney was a three time Pro bowler and

1172
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: he was Clowny. Like everybody knew Clowny.

1173
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 3: Everybody knows the famous play from South Carolina against Michigan

1174
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: was against Michigan.

1175
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: Was against Michigan. Yeah, and it was also it felt

1176
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: like one of the final pieces to it all coming together.

1177
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: Opposite that was another one. Didn't that happen? Like at

1178
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: the end of May almost June.

1179
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: You were on vacation, vacation, Yeah, I thought it was.

1180
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 4: It was it was warm and there was nothing going

1181
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: on in the building, and I.

1182
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: Think like I was out. I mean, I don't even remember.

1183
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: We may have both been out. I don't know what

1184
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: was going on. I remember you doing it.

1185
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: I do remember that.

1186
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: Uh do we feel like jamal Lewis five? Yeah, okay,

1187
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: then Jamier six? Then I think Conkland seven was an

1188
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: all pro Yeah, Conkland seven. Uh, Zeitler eight, I would

1189
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about that eight. No, Treader, I don't

1190
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like I mean, you got I wasn't

1191
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: here for the acquisition of JC.

1192
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

1193
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

1194
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember being like I'm not compared to these

1195
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: other guys.

1196
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: Correct.

1197
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: That's why I said to me, like, Treader, Steinbach, Zeitler,

1198
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: you tell me which one felt like the biggest in

1199
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: the moment my hunches Zeitler did.

1200
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: It was April. It was right around April thirteenth for Clowney. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1201
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: I Zeitler was a big Zeiler was a big deal.

1202
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: Remember that was broken Albright. That was like Albright's claiming

1203
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: of his first year doing that hit with us on

1204
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: the opening day of free agency was like the rounds

1205
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: are gonna get Zieler, and then we did. Yeah, oh

1206
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: that's pretty good.

1207
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: He was a monster in the weight room, that's all.

1208
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: I remember, strong strong club Jordan's as well.

1209
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cool with those eight.

1210
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. All right, So we'll figure this out and we'll

1211
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 4: get everything up and running here.

1212
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: With so no buys, no by no, no buys, no buys.

1213
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: Just get right to it one verses eight, two versus seven, three, six, four, five,

1214
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: and let's see how it all plays out. And then

1215
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: we can leave it to the great fans of Cleveland

1216
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Browns Daily to determine how they want a weigh the

1217
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: buzz of the signing versus the production while they were

1218
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: there and try to find the sweet spot.

1219
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: We'll get you to the quarterfinal results tomorrow onto the

1220
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: Semis then, so.

1221
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: We'll we'll the results will be like you're gonna have

1222
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: on the poll. You'll have to put it so it

1223
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: ends at like four thirty or whatever, so that we

1224
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: can have the results, you know, talk about it during

1225
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: the show, but then close it.

1226
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: I may let this one go. We may post this

1227
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 4: obviously since it's four fifteen. Uh yeah, we'll put this

1228
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: one up probably right after the show ends. Yeah, and

1229
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 4: then tomorrow we'll cut it at like three, announce it,

1230
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: and put the next one up at three thirty. Yeah,

1231
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 4: So just something fun.

1232
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're gonna we're gonna put this up after yeah, okay, Well,

1233
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: then let's go the what are the matchups? So is

1234
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: it Jarvis versus Zeitler's.

1235
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: The one eight?

1236
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so jervis heate is Zeitler.

1237
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: And then.

1238
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 2: The four five, which would be on the top side

1239
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: of that racket, would be Clowney, bless you, Clowney and Jamal.

1240
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: My God.

1241
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: And then the two seven would be O b j Conklin,

1242
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: Jamir no no, Nonlin, You're right, and the three would.

1243
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: Be May and Jami.

1244
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So then the one plays the four five, the

1245
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: two plays, the two seven plays the three six. We're

1246
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: not recedinglays out the way it plays out, all right,

1247
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: there you go that'll be fun interesting to see how

1248
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: it all happens. You you can't even wrap your head

1249
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: around when you got the news that you were getting

1250
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham June.

1251
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, it was awesome.

1252
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1253
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: My phone was vibrating so much it fell off of

1254
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: the counter. I remember that, and I was like, what

1255
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: was going on?

1256
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: And it was like that six Was it like seven

1257
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: thirty at night? Seven to fifteen something like that, Yeah,

1258
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: it was.

1259
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: It was just after seven because NFL Network was live

1260
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: and Joe Thomas happen to be a guest that week

1261
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: on set at NFL Network and Joe was losing his

1262
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: mind on set.

1263
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was also so fun because they had

1264
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: the flirtation at the combine totally so like and they

1265
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: both like Dorris really was a full Dorse mode at

1266
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: that moment, Like he was very chesty, and I think he,

1267
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, he had fun with it totally.

1268
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: He loved it.

1269
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: Like our friend, our friends at NFL Network wanted the

1270
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: first Odell jersey for Nate Burleson, our good friend Nate Burlason.

1271
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: So literally I had to go to the higher ups

1272
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: and be like, I know, the first jersey is supposed

1273
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: to be for the player. Yeah, we need to overnight

1274
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: this to New York, New York because they wanted which one.

1275
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 4: Was it a white one or a brown one? That

1276
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: he brown won? Was it a brown one?

1277
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: Yep, that Nate had.

1278
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that was beautiful. Yeah, that was crazy.

1279
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: And then when we launched the new uniforms, they gave

1280
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of them to media, like the new uniform variety.

1281
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: You ended up with the odell, didn't you.

1282
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: I had I delivered and I delivered delivered mine. Yeah,

1283
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 3: in COVID, I delivered one tar.

1284
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun.

1285
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: Door.

1286
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: You had to let you put it down at the

1287
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: end of my sidewalk because he could a touched good

1288
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: God all the time feels like a blink and a

1289
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: million years ago, all at the same time.

1290
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 4: By the way, that anniversary was like six years ago.

1291
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: Yesterday the go Bear thing, Yes, either yes, coming up

1292
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: it will be Gobert press conference. I think that was

1293
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: either yesterday or today. The day the world stopped was

1294
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: the Big Ten tournament. I'll never forget it because they

1295
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: had gone like and they had gone out to start.

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01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: It was on a Thursday. They had played the Wednesday games.

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: Fred Hoiberg collapsed. He was coaching Nebraska still is now.

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: They're good. They weren't then, but they were in one

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: of the playing games he collapsed and we're like, oh

1300
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: my god, he have COVID and it was and it

1301
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: was something else, and then they were going to play

1302
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: the noon games. And I'll never forget. The first thing

1303
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: to cancel was the Ivy League Men's basketball tournament, and

1304
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, if the IVY, that's the

1305
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: go Beart, go Bear.

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01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: And that night it was when we got back from Mexico.

1308
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: That night was when they canceled. I think they the NBA.

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: That wasn't that night, it was by Friday. It was

1310
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: by Friday because it was a big ten thing happened

1311
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: on Thursday. I'll never forget that. The following Thursday, the

1312
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Big ten thing happened. Gobart had the presser. But the

1313
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: week before the Ivy's canceled. I thought, they know those guys,

1314
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: they're just connected as anybody. Like if they're saying this

1315
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: is going to be a problem, we got a problem

1316
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: on our hands.

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: YEP.

1318
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: And the Big ten teams like went out and warmed up.

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: They were on the court. It was yes because the

1320
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 4: ACC was getting ready.

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01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was the noon tip and it was

1322
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: everyone's on the court and then they're like, yeah, we're done,

1323
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: shut it down.

1324
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Speaker 4: And then.

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: We said goodbye to you on a Friday. I'll see

1326
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: it in a year, your year. I don't even know

1327
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: when we saw you guys again. A long time long

1328
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: training camp that year or was that the following year,

1329
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Now that was the we didn't see you.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 4: Jen and I were allowed to be on this side

1332
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 4: of the wall, the great wall that was built down

1333
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: the middle. The girl was in there. I was in

1334
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 4: here there. I don't know why they built a wall

1335
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 4: because there was no one on this side.

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01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: No, this was empty.

1337
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: There was no one over here. They took out everything somehow.

1338
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: I might have finaggled the microwave in here because they

1339
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 4: took out all of our we were we didn't have

1340
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: access to anything, nothing wise, nothing. Jeez, crazy, here's a

1341
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 4: little swab. We're going to stick up there and scramble

1342
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: your brain to see if you have it or not.

1343
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: You have to test every day. You'd get I remember

1344
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 4: doing that.

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 2: Come on, crazy times, we'll go around the sports world

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Speaker 2: play a little agree or disagree. Coming up next. You

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Speaker 2: We've got a little we little game show. We got

1356
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: a little agree or disagree, Gibb, I believe in front

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01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: of us here.

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 4: Sure, and obviously this is before the Browns re signing

1359
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 4: of Tevin Jenkins. Mike Clay from ESPN who literally there's

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 4: a freadsheet he posts every morning. Here, I'm gonna I'm

1361
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: gonna walk in and hand.

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Speaker 6: This to you.

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1364
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: This is his updated list of free agents every day.

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 2: Hell okay, Hi also real quick pull voting his life,

1366
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: poll voting his life.

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't have it.

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: Look at that. So he does it here you go.

1369
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: So he does it every day. That's a lot of names.

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he updates it every day. So anyways, he's

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 4: a good jump. He's projected the offensive line for every

1372
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 4: team through the first day of free agency, and again

1373
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: this is before Tevin Jenkins. His left tackle was Dewan Jones,

1374
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 4: his left guard was Zion Johnson, center was Luke Whippler,

1375
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: right tackle was Titus Howard our new tackle, and the

1376
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: right guard was Kingsley Igkin sure sure the rest everybody else.

1377
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: The tackles were kat Levinston, Jeremiah Byers.

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01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: I think if you're going on our current roster, the

1379
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: people who would be in competition for the guard spot

1380
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: would be Tevin Jenkins, now back, Zach Zinner, and I

1381
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: even think that kt Leviston would get an opportunity at guards.

1382
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 3: I think he's built more like a guard.

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01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised that he went the way

1384
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: he went and Zack Center was not the starter, Well said,

1385
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: I just I thought it was Do you think that

1387
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: we will go into this and this is of no

1388
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: fault of his own, we love him, But do you

1389
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: think we will go into this season with Dwan Jones

1390
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: as the starting left tackle based on the health? I

1391
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: just don't believe that.

1392
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: To be true.

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01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so. It's not his fault.

1394
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: But I just there's no way you could rely on that.

1395
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: No, but I think he's going to be one to

1396
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: get him healthy. I think he's a great swing tackle.

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have an opportunity to start games.

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01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: He can be a franchise left tackle. It's just the

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01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: health and it's not again, it's not his fault. We

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: love him, Yeah, I just don't think in the NFL,

1401
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: like when you have this injury history, that you could

1402
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: go into a camp counting on him to be your

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: left tackle and not worry about it.

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01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: That's and I mean, we believe Whippler will be back,

1405
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 4: but you better get some people behind him.

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, we still Yeah, we got a lot of

1407
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: work here, still a lot of work to do.

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: So that's the deal with the Browns estimated offensive.

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01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: Why around the sports world do we go the best

1411
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 4: players still available? Quarterback? Why are you looking at me

1412
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 4: like that? Gim like that? Oh? Around the sports world

1413
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: do we go at quarterback? Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins.

1414
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: Prediction time, Where do the following players still available in

1415
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: free agency end up? We'll start with Kyler Murray.

1416
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 3: Where do you think he goes Minnesota, Minnesota.

1417
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: Where's Kirk Cousins go.

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01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to go to Pittsburgh, That's right,

1419
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: Cousins is that Arizona.

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01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: They got Gardner Minshew and they got Brissette. I don't

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: think there's a starting job for him. I don't think

1422
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 4: so either.

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Speaker 3: I just don't end up as the backup mentor to

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Speaker 3: Mendoza in Las Vegas. Does he want to be a backup?

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01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that he has that choice. Indy, Indy's

1426
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: pretty well into Danny Dimes. I mean he could.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what I mean, Like maybe you bring

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01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: him in the way they had Flacco last year, Like

1429
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: you get a sharp chance to start till Dimes comes back.

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Speaker 4: I saw something this afternoon that was interesting. Would you

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 4: rather pay Kyler Murray like one point eight million or

1432
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: Danny Dimes fifty million?

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hyler Murray of course. Well that's why I mean, yeah,

1434
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: he hasn't signed it. They could pull the tag if

1435
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't signed it.

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01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: All right, NFC East Buffalo, no Jets, no with you

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01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: know Smith now knowingly, no Miami, no AFC, AFC.

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: North INDI is the only one.

1439
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: Buddy Baltimore. It feels like that's it, that's it if he.

1440
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: Wants a chance to start, I mean, it's it's really

1441
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: only there. And then beyond that, it's like okay, I

1442
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: mean like I don't know, maybe does he think about

1443
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: like Kansas City? Yep, until Mahomes comes back, like captain

1444
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: that ship for five weeks, until Mahomes gets healthy. I

1445
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: couldn't even tell you. I couldn't even tell.

1446
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: You that's it.

1447
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, are we sure some of these they are

1448
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: going to be back? They are behaving in a way.

1449
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: The Kansasity Chiefs are behaving in a way that they're

1450
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: going for the Super Bowl share clearly. So you also

1451
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: want to make sure that whoever is watching the shop

1452
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: until Patrick comes back is competent. So like that would

1453
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: be a spot for cousins to me Kansas City and

1454
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: Indie and then like there's no shame in losing, like

1455
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes, Like you get to play six seven

1456
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: games or whatever it is until Mahomes gets back. That's

1457
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, and you back up Mahomes.

1458
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 4: Yep.

1459
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1460
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 4: The other big wild card that has not fallen yet

1461
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 4: is indeed Trey hendrickson any predictions supposedly he wants. The

1462
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: divide between what he's asking for and what teams are

1463
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: offering is approaching eight to ten million. That's a big difference.

1464
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: I like them.

1465
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: So I'd have to look at what I mean. I

1466
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 2: don't have this at the top of my head because

1467
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: we're doing grounds daily, not every team in the NFL daily. Yeah,

1468
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: but my hunch would be the usual suspect. So I

1469
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: would think about Detroit opposite Hutchinson that they're always in

1470
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 2: the mix for this. Philly lost a ton of defensive

1471
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: line talent. Yeah, yep, So I would think about Philly.

1472
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: I would think about Buffalo, but they don't I don't

1473
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: know if that they would have the money to pay

1474
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: Philly into t roight jump out to me, Well, green

1475
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: Bay's got to pay somebody, and they lost a ton

1476
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,959
Speaker 2: of defensive line talent.

1477
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 3: To the paying Parsons.

1478
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. But I

1479
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: think it go opposite him. But I mean, the problem

1480
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 2: is is he needs he wants compensation totally. He's not

1481
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: trying to go win.

1482
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: A The problem is clock's ticking, buddy, you know, I mean,

1483
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: spent a lot of money spent already.

1484
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: Does spot track update in real time.

1485
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: Captain, I think over the cap does too.

1486
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: Chargers, Washington, Washington.

1487
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: Pretty they signed, you know, they signed somebody away. They

1488
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 3: gave big money too. He's got to have a markt

1489
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: let's say, suitors.

1490
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, I guarantee he's got a market,

1491
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 4: but I don't know if it's what his value is.

1492
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: And again that money pot shrinks daily. Yeah, I don't know.

1493
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: Something to the Los Angeles Chargers are the betting favorite

1494
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: to get him.

1495
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 4: Well, there you go. That's even after they got Khalil

1496
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 4: mackback play.

1497
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: All that money the Raiders spent.

1498
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 4: They spent a lot. They were still I woke up

1499
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 4: this morning, like, oh they're still spending all.

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: That money they spent. They still have fifty million in

1501
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: cap space.

1502
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: Says Raiders. Chargers, Cowboys, Bills, Eagles, Titans, Bucks.

1503
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, because he want I mean, he wants

1504
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: to get one big, more payday. He's not trying to

1505
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 2: chase a Super Bowl.

1506
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 3: At this point.

1507
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: He's trying to get paid one more time.

1508
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 4: Some of the big name wide receivers left, Juwan Jennings,

1509
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs, Deebo, Samuel Hollywood Brown Okuwonko. The tight end

1510
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 4: is available still on the offensive line, Paul McKai, Becton,

1511
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 4: Rashid Walker, Jenkins, Jenkins as well, someone to watch Jens

1512
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 4: you know defensively, wreekwoll and Leo'shanal Nick Cross safety. They've

1513
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 4: got some names still out there, but.

1514
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: Pretty back MJ. I want mj Emerson back.

1515
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

1516
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: That's an easy one.

1517
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: From the weekend. Something we didn't get to the Sabers

1518
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 4: in hockey defeating the Tampa Bay Lightning score of eight

1519
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 4: to seven. There was one hundred and two penalty minutes

1520
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 4: yep given out in this one. Yeah, just fight after

1521
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 4: fight after fight. The fans only cared about the fighting

1522
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 4: by the time it got said and done. Like Buffalo's

1523
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 4: playing for like a playoff spot for the first time

1524
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 4: in GM man, how long fifteen years?

1525
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: There you go, NFL. The NHL got away from fighting

1526
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: about a decade ago. Basically, the idea was, we're not

1527
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: going to waste a roster pot spot on someone who

1528
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: can't skate and can't score. So they kind of got

1529
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: rid of it and there weren't many of them left.

1530
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: There's a player two or three years ago for the

1531
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: new York Rangers, young guy who came up who kind

1532
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: of brought it back single handily, and you are seeing

1533
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: a little more of it now than you did maybe

1534
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: four or five years ago. There is a faction of

1535
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: hockey fans who love the fights and that's what they

1536
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: love and it's been a part of the sport forever.

1537
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: Marty mcsorly, Yeah, but it's it is It is crazy

1538
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: that it's legal. I mean, it's nuts. And then in

1539
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: the middle of a game, like you can just two

1540
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: guys can just square off and throw haymakers at each

1541
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: other and it's like, okay, two penalties. That's it. It's

1542
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: nuts that that's that's.

1543
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 4: Part of it for all of it. It's free agency

1544
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 4: week in the NFL. Just as importantly it's college basketball

1545
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 4: Conference Tournament week. I don't know if you got to

1546
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 4: watch it on Friday night, but the RedHawks overtime against

1547
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: Ohio University Miami finishes thirty one and oh they're the

1548
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 4: number one seed going into the MAC Tournament. I'll face

1549
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 4: U mass to kick off the quarterfinals on Thursday, and

1550
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 4: then they'll get the winner of Bowling Green in Toledo.

1551
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: They are not the favorite to win the MAC Tournament.

1552
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a better team. Well they are right now.

1553
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: Miami's really wounded. The Scaljack kid is beaten up, and

1554
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: I mean he's a Brexfeld kid and he's stud but

1555
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: he's he's been beat They're really banged up. Miami is.

1556
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: They're in no matter what. In my view, I don't

1557
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: want to hear any dialogue about how they have to

1558
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: be thirty one and oh it's enough.

1559
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1560
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: The cool thing was.

1561
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 3: Sixty nine thousand teams in.

1562
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, there's sixty eight teams. It's ridiculous. Like they

1563
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: should get in. Akron wins the MAC. They should get into.

1564
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: They both should be in, and I don't want them

1565
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: in the play in stuff like y're not going to Dayton.

1566
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: They should be in the tournament. I've actually covered Dayton.

1567
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: I've covered the instrumental in a lot. Dayton does a

1568
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: tremendous job with that. But it should not be for

1569
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: teams like teams out of the MAC. It should be

1570
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: for teams like Auburn bottom dwellers of the Power four

1571
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: conferences that you go playing Dayton for the right to

1572
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: be the ten seed. In Chattanooga, we.

1573
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 4: Talked about nine man I talked about this the other day.

1574
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: Stop penalizing the sixteen seeds.

1575
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

1576
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 4: You've earned that right to go play on Thursday.

1577
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: I covered that once with Florida and m They were

1578
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: a sixteen seed, the first time they've ever been in

1579
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: a tournament. Now they won. Their reward was getting Kentucky

1580
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 2: and talent in Columbus. But they but they shouldn't have

1581
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: had to be there. They should have just went right

1582
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: to the tournament. That's right, And that's a big time flaw.

1583
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 4: That the last four in should be the ones playing

1584
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 4: each other.

1585
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: You guys go play each other. Yeah, absolutely, it's ridiculous.

1586
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: So one of the things that was cool about I'm

1587
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: one of the million things, but like we were our

1588
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: hotel in Lawrence was on campus and Friday night, after

1589
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: we went out to have dinner, we went back to

1590
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: the hotel and we were They had like a sports bar,

1591
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: nice restaurant in the lobby of the hotel and as

1592
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: we walked in, all the TVs were on and they

1593
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: were all watching Miami Ohio basketball.

1594
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

1595
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a basketball town.

1596
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: This is what they do.

1597
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: So like when we got done with the Kansas Kansas

1598
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: State game. We get back to the hotel. Half the

1599
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: TVs are on Carolina Duke. There were three or four

1600
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 2: of them that were on Ohio State and Indiana. And

1601
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: when Bruce Thornton broke the all time scoring record at

1602
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State, a record that had held from Dennis Hopson

1603
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: since the eighties, and d hop was there a record

1604
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: that will never be broken again. Like there were people

1605
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: clapping for it because they follow it like that. I

1606
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: appreciate it. So it's like Columbus on a football Saturday,

1607
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: you not only watch the Buckeyes, you watch everybody else

1608
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: who you're contending with. Here's a little stat for you

1609
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: guys on the weekend blitz. Here as we take a

1610
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: look at things, can you guess how many players in

1611
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Division I college basketball played all four years in the same.

1612
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: School of the this year's senior class, this year's senior

1613
01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 3: class four.

1614
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: Years one school, three hundred Division one teams.

1615
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: I was gonna say ten.

1616
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 4: Say I'll go higher than that just because of the

1617
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 4: number of teams. I'll say, like fifty five.

1618
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: Meet in the middle. I mean you went, I kind

1619
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: of led you there. At twenty two. Twenty two players

1620
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 2: in Division one played from the day you were recruited

1621
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: through your senior year at the same school. At twenty two,

1622
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: I watched a senior day in Lawrence where the place

1623
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: went nuts for a kid named Melvin Counsel junior who's

1624
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: a senior Beamsy knows the roster front and back. And

1625
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there asking. I'm like, I'm like, wow, is

1626
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: he He's had a great career here he goes dad,

1627
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: he just got here. He played at Saint Bonaventure last year.

1628
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 2: I said, how did he create that type of beloved

1629
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: in eight months? Crazy? But of the kids who played,

1630
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: none of them were even guys who had been there

1631
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: two years. So like the senior day, stuff's great. So

1632
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: like when I say no one is ever beating that

1633
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: record that Thornton had put down on I'm telling you

1634
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 2: it ain't ever happening. That's done. Yeah, I mean in

1635
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: Hops had had that record from the eighties.

1636
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: Again, like you've they've got to figure out the whole

1637
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 4: transfer portal. Either you can do it once and that's

1638
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 4: it unless your coach gets fired.

1639
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: Let's play the game, though, Let's play the game. Let's

1640
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: say we put that on them and we say you

1641
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: can only transfer once. And an attorney takes the player

1642
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: who tries to transfer a second time, and he gets

1643
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: in front of a court of law and he says,

1644
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: why can he only transfer once? If the judgell asked this,

1645
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: why can he only transfer once? He could can? Is

1646
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: that all a regular student can transfer? Can the coaches

1647
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: only change jobs once? That's why they all think you

1648
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 2: have to put in, you have to sit out.

1649
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 6: We got to go.

1650
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Why coaches don't have to sit out? Why should a

1651
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: kid have to sit out? The coach go anywhere they

1652
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: want without sitting out and get all their money. Why

1653
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: can't a kid get that? There's only one thing, And

1654
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: as you can tell I do this all the time,

1655
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: there's only one There's only one thing that I think

1656
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 2: would put curb this a little bit and get back

1657
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: to some of the collegiate aspect of it. And that

1658
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: is an age limit on the age with which you

1659
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: can play a college sport. So if you just say

1660
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: you cannot turn twenty four during your season of competition,

1661
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: you have to have this wrapped up by the time

1662
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: you're twenty three. We have this in high school sports.

1663
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: You can't turn is it nineteen or you can't turn

1664
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: twenty there's something in high school sports there's an age

1665
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: limit to it, and to me, that would curb some

1666
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 2: of this. You have to be done by the time

1667
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: you turn twenty three. You cannot turn twenty four in

1668
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 2: the year you compete because all the rest of it.

1669
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: As soon as you get into court of law, they

1670
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: do what I just did to you, where you say, well,

1671
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: is that if little Timmy's playing violin and he's at

1672
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 2: Ohio State and the next year he wants to go

1673
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: to Vanderbilt, In the year after that he wants to

1674
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: go to Santa Clair, and the year after that he

1675
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: wants to finish at Berkeley, you can't stop him his

1676
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: credits transfer. If he wants to do what he can,

1677
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: why would you stop an athlete from doing that? And conversely,

1678
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: if you're not gonna put any restrictions on coaches getting

1679
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: different jobs, why can't we put a.

1680
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 3: Restriction on players.

1681
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: So that's why they lose in court all the time.

1682
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: It's over and over and over.

1683
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,879
Speaker 4: Yep. So what's going on with the old miss quarterback.

1684
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: The NCAA's getting it, they'll lose again. They're just wasting money,

1685
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: just wasting it. Just when you think that's over that's

1686
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like the age limit, I think would

1687
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: curb it a little. If you just said you've got

1688
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: to be you cannot turn twenty four and still compete

1689
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: in college athletics. You got from eighteen to twenty three

1690
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: to get it done. The old four years to play five.

1691
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: There was a while ago where they were talking about

1692
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 2: five years to play five. Just get five years of eligibility. Okay, fine, whatever,

1693
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: but have an age limit on it. And then that

1694
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: would And that's something that I think that would hold up.

1695
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 4: In a court of law.

1696
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: Is the age limit thing? Yeah, because that doesn't get

1697
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 2: challenging in high school. That doesn't get challenged much. Just say, look,

1698
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: this is college athletics. There's an academic component. You gotta

1699
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: have it done in five. You gotta have it done

1700
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: by the time you're twenty three. Buckeys are going to

1701
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: make the tournament.

1702
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 4: By the way, do they have to do anything this

1703
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 4: week or non? Think so?

1704
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: I think they're in.

1705
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 4: They're twenty and twenty and eleven.

1706
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: Twenty and eleven, they're twelve and eight in the league.

1707
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, who are the four one seeds? Duke Arizona, Michigan

1708
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: point guard today, I know I'm aware Michigan.

1709
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: Michigan and Florida would be my Florida. Yeah, I would

1710
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: go Duke Arizona, Michigan and Florida.

1711
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1712
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: Their center is hurt Is Houston. Good very Yeah.

1713
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve's crazy.

1714
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: It's a basketball conference though.

1715
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really loaded. I mean, Kansas is the three.

1716
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: They can win a national title. Iowa State could win

1717
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 2: the national title. I mean that that league is a

1718
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: full day.

1719
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 4: I will tell everybody, like, if you want to go

1720
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: see good college basketball this week, go down to the

1721
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 4: Back Tournament. Oh, it's so fun, Like you're going to

1722
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 4: see some of the best. Like, I think there will

1723
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Speaker 4: be an added thing. I wouldn't be surprised the ESPN

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: elevates they're announcing team Saturday night if Miami's in the

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01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: championship game. I would hope so. Given what they trotted

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Speaker 4: out Friday night for the Ohio University game, I don't

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01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 4: know what the hell that was probably better for you.

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to throw stuff at the TV. G Man

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 4: and I were going back and forth on it. Oh,

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 4: it was bad. I didn't analyst was King Cliche? Oh? Really?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder who it was? Well, we don't need

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 4: to bury him, but it was brutal. So that's I

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be. I think that Friday night, I

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 4: mean you gonna you could have Akron and Kent playing

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Speaker 4: each other.

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Speaker 2: Well, that would be nice. Yeah, if you get an

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01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Akron Miami Final, when do they play that Saturday night?

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01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: So they compete with the ACC Final or the Big

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: twelve Final. The Big Ten is always Sunday because that's

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: the last The Big Big Ten screws up a lot

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 2: of things, but they make sure their football teams play

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01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: the last Saturday of championship weekend. They get the eight

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01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: o'clock slot, and they get the basketball right too, because

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01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: that's the game that leads into the selection show.

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01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the mac's always been like a six

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 4: o'clock or seven o'clock start.

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably an ESPN two production, I'm guessing because the

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01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: ACC Final usually on Saturday, too, isn't it it?

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: Probably ECC's probably at eight o'clock.

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so there you go. All right, we'll

1752
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: take a look at where we stand two days into

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Speaker 2: Zach Bryan is bringing Is with Heaven on world tour

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01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: to Huntington bank Field on May ninth. Here all his

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01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: classics witness his new album Live in Cleveland. Don't miss

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Speaker 2: out on an incredible night of country hits. Get tickets

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Speaker 2: now by visiting Huntington Bankfield dot com slash Zach Bryan.

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: Is he old enough to be a classic? I don't

1765
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: mean how old is this most recent? His biggest stuff

1766
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: is like from twenty twenty, isn't it.

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 4: I'd like to think, so when did he burst on? This?

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01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Ain't Waylon Jennings.

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01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: No, you know what I mean. This isn't not the

1770
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: highway correct on all of this.

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01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: We're not singing bo Cephis. I mean, what is wow?

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01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 4: What a pull there? I mean, come on, that's a

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: classic right there, That's a classic.

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01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: I'd like to spit some beach nutting that dude's eye.

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01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Excuse me, uh no, but I mean he's a massive star.

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, you want some pull.

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Jack Bryan was born in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, he ain't George Straight, No, Nope. His

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01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 4: first big album that made he draws, he played h

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 4: he played the Big House was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so his so when his classics are literally four

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01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 2: years old.

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: Something in the Orange was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That revival is another big, big one too, Like, isn't

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01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: that a big hit for him? The revival song that

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 2: was because he was discovered on Instagram?

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: Wasn't it Something in the Orange Man?

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01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: Yes, Revival.

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01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 4: Revival twenty eighteen.

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01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: So that's the one that he's on the Instagram and

1791
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: he's looking it up now.

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01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: His His first year of getting nominated for any type

1793
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: of awards was twenty twenty three.

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01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 4: Revival was twenty twenty covid eh.

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01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 3: His first tour was really that he headlined was twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two.

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 2: Oh it's heading South. Zach Brian was initially made famous

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01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: online by the viral success of his song Heading South,

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01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: which he recorded in twenty nineteen outside his Navy barracks

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Speaker 2: and uploaded to YouTube.

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: How about it?

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01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's that.

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: First time I saw him? He showed up on Yellowstone YEP,

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: like season four or something, and he's sang motorcycle drive

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01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: by and twenty twenty two summer Summertime Blues showed up

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: in that played those two songs you said, twenty twenty

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01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: two like up a season four maybe blew up. Yeah,

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01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's ver. And guess who else was in

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01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: that scene at the same scene that he sang Laney Wilson.

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01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Wilson was in ITEP.

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01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: So that I have to imagine that show catapulted both

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01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: of them in terms of people being because at that

1813
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: time twenty sixty million people were watching that show every week. Yeah,

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01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: it was a massive hit.

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01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: Got some poll results in the early going here still

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01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 4: and they'll be up until tomorrow right when our show

1817
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: starts at three o'clock. These are the semi finals of

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01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 4: the first topic. Not are free Agency. Top Browns offseason

1819
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 4: Acquisition since ninety nine. The number four seed Jdavian Clowney

1820
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 4: getting smoked by the number five seed Jamal Lewis eighty

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01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: two to eighteen. How about it. Jack Conklin is crushing

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01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: the number two seed Odell Beckham Junior sixty eight percent

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01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 4: to thirty two percent. Amari Cooper the three seed, that's right,

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01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 4: beating Jamior Miller way to pay attention eighty nine percent

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01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 4: to eleven percent. The number one seed Jarvis Landry ninety

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 4: one percent, Kevin Zeitler nine percent.

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Speaker 3: Hold you just said.

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01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: Jack Concklin's sixty eight percent, Odell thirty two percent. It's

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01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 4: twenty seven upset in the making. There where's our four

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01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 4: or five battle? Jamal Lewis beating Gendavian Clowney. Jamal Lewis

1831
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 4: the five seed eighty two percent, Clowney eighteen percent.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, feely the people that feel scorned, well, I think

1833
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 7: that's the Beckham one too, clearly, clearly, yeah, yeah, In

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01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 7: terms of what is your correct answer to this?

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01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: Like the way this plays out, who is of since

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01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine? What's the greatest offseason acquisition from Buzz? It's Odell,

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01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 2: But it's Odell or Jarvis and delivery buzz hype and

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01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: then yeah, I still I think it's Jarvis. The hype thing.

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01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: The hype on Beckham was so crazy though that it's

1840
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: like if you did like the like Madden attributes, of course,

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01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: hype would be one hundred hundred hotel, which was I

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01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 2: love you had to live it. You had to live it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amari probably.

1845
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 3: Was better than Mary, had better numbers than any of them.

1846
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Amar was better than we all realized at the time

1848
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: of acquisition. He really played and balled out.

1849
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 3: Landry was a two time pro bowler with the Browns.

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01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we got to run. I'll have all

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Speaker 2: of this tomorrow. Thanks for listeningbody Cleveland Browns Daily presented

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