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Speaker 1: Levels to.

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Speaker 2: This is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? It's your girl, Srica Foster Brassby,

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Speaker 1: what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Cheryl Swoops And this

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Speaker 1: is the levels to this podcast.

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Speaker 3: This is the show where we share that it's levels

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Speaker 3: to the shit that women go through. And I love

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Speaker 3: today's episode. We are definitely gonna talk about the WNBA Draft,

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 1: Going on around that. But first, what's up, Cheryl? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? Girl?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what it means when it's draft time.

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Speaker 3: Draft time means and that I do. The season is

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Speaker 3: here right around the Kona.

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Speaker 1: So let me just tell you.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that the draft happened like when it did

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Speaker 2: because I'm needing some basketball in my life.

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Speaker 1: After the NCUBLEA Final four. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: talked about this in great depth.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping for a bit more out of the

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Speaker 2: final four, and so because I didn't get everything that

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Speaker 2: I wanted, I need some more basketball action.

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Speaker 1: In my life. So the draft came right on top.

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Speaker 3: I love that, and I get what you mean. I

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Speaker 3: think I was expecting and you know, we just had

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Speaker 3: a show about the NCAA Championship. But I too was

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Speaker 3: hoping for a little bit more as it relates to

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Speaker 3: the game action. But what I will say is I

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Speaker 3: attended the draft, and just from the layout as it

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Speaker 3: relates to the space, the location, I think the WNBA

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Speaker 3: nailed it. The location was beautiful. The Shed is a

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Speaker 3: very nice venue. There was different levels for everything. There

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Speaker 3: was so much space on the floor for fans. There

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Speaker 3: was space back where you could see the ESPN set,

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Speaker 3: you could see where the draftees were going, and then

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Speaker 3: there was a balcony upper level. Like it was giving

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Speaker 3: what I get when I'm looking at like an NFL

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Speaker 1: Other than the fact that it's not.

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Speaker 3: Like a theater or like an arena venue, which I

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Speaker 3: actually prefer. I'm glad they don't do the draft at

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Speaker 3: like of arena type venue like the other sports. But

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Speaker 3: this year just really felt like the fan activations were

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Speaker 3: really nice. The orange carpet and we can talk about

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Speaker 3: how they was killing the game on that orange cart Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because they was bringing it. But it's just I was

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Speaker 3: just really proud of the product that they put forth

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Speaker 3: this year as it relates to the WNBA Draft. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think people realize how far the draft has come,

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Speaker 3: because I remember when I first covered to the draft.

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Speaker 3: They was in a little room in ESPN and Studio E.

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Speaker 3: That's the first draft.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm glad you said that because I was going

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Speaker 2: to say this. I try not to live my life

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Speaker 2: like having any regrets or any of the things. Yep,

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Speaker 2: but I will tell you this and it's not a regret.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I do miss about my draft experience

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Speaker 2: or non draft experience is just that being in the.

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Speaker 1: Room with your friends, your family and waiting to hear

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Speaker 1: your name call.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care if that's the first player or

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Speaker 2: the thirty eighth player, but waiting to hear your name call,

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Speaker 2: like as a kid growing up, and especially one who

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Speaker 2: plays sports and you want to go play professionally, Like

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Speaker 2: that's a dream of yours to someday hear your name

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Speaker 2: being called with the first pick in the twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five draft.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Houston comments select out of Texas Tech University. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: I so miss that I didn't get to experience that,

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Speaker 2: and I love this for all the players.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, the draft has come.

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Speaker 2: A long way from the venue to where it's being held.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, let's just say it like it is. The

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Speaker 2: outfits have come a long, long way.

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Speaker 1: Long way, Okay, long way.

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Speaker 3: The WNBA did a video where they did the first

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Speaker 3: pick of the draft starting with Tina all the way

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Speaker 3: down to last year, and you could see, first of all,

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Speaker 3: just the fact that some of these outfits look like

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Speaker 1: Like I know, I know it was like they were

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Speaker 3: That's how we dress, That's how we had to dress

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Speaker 3: I we we need to have a show about this

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Speaker 1: Sins inception, I know the truth. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like I know why and how, and you know not.

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Speaker 3: As well as you obviously, but I understand the reason

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Speaker 3: And even though I might not agree with the reason,

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Speaker 3: I do know why that existed, right, But now players

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Speaker 3: get to really just do them. They get to wear

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Speaker 3: They popped out this year, y'all. So, first of all,

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Speaker 3: Rakia Jackson was hosting. Y'all know, Rakia was a twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four dress. Yeah, so Rakia was hosting and she

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Speaker 3: had this slow black dress on.

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Speaker 1: It was lace with the gloves. It is the gloves.

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Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent unfair for someone to look

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Speaker 1: it's dropped. She just dropped dead, just gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you walk in a room and you're like,

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Speaker 3: I don't see anybody else here at this moment because

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Speaker 3: the first thing that I did is go straight to key.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy what I just first of all, and

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Speaker 2: her personality makes her that much more gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Love so love, love love.

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Speaker 2: But before we take it to the next level, can

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Speaker 2: we just talk about the outfits a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Yes, what was your faith? Who was your fade? So

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Speaker 1: I had a couple at a couple?

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Speaker 3: I can't lie I didn't have one. I had a

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Speaker 3: couple me too, So Kiki Eria finn baby. She brought

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Speaker 3: Nigeria to into York, didn't she? She bought Nigeria to

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Speaker 1: Fast dress, the hair, the embellishments, like totally.

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Speaker 2: So the designer of her dress is the same person

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Speaker 2: that designed SNE's wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. And I was at SNE's wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that everything about it and she represented her

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Speaker 2: culture to the fullest about Kiki, I love it and

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Speaker 2: who was your second?

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Speaker 3: I also because I can't rank them, but exactly I

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Speaker 1: They were just so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought page looked amazing and she switched the

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Speaker 3: fit between the carpet.

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Speaker 1: And the switched the fi. I got a shout out Russell.

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Speaker 3: Westbrook because designs for Georgia with bananaus the embellishness was dope.

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Speaker 1: T you said, too, You're that's already three. I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Like they looked good, Like they looked good

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Speaker 1: what I said, No, I think this was for me.

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Speaker 2: This was the first year, like in probably the past

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Speaker 2: four or five years, that I thought every drafty like

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Speaker 2: brought it.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a one where I was like, oh boo,

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Speaker 1: that ain't it me saying I loved it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a there with you. It's the same for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not ranking them, but Kiki just brought it.

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Speaker 2: She looked gorgeous, representing her culture. The fit was fitting,

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Speaker 2: the dress was dressing, all the things. I'm there with

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Speaker 2: you on page. But I'm gonna go with Aziah James.

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Speaker 2: Aziah was fresh.

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Speaker 1: That was it. It was just fresh.

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Speaker 2: But you know I have okay, So I was talking

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Speaker 2: to have this conversation with you.

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Speaker 1: There was one thing though, that did.

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Speaker 2: Bother me, okay about Aziah's fit. No, not Aziah. There

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Speaker 2: were four of them. It was I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: This is so Paige's second outfit.

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Speaker 2: Aziah James, uh huh, Sonya Citron Okay, Madison Scott. I

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Speaker 2: think it was Madison Scott. Do you know what they

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Speaker 2: all had in common? Because they all had on black suits. No,

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Speaker 2: they did have auits, but Jordan called it the booths

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Speaker 2: and blazers. Oh yeah, because they all had like the

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you why.

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Speaker 2: I love the look. But if you're going to wear it,

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Speaker 2: own all of it. The thing that bothered me, that

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Speaker 2: made it uncomfortable was all of them kept their hands

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Speaker 2: up to their chests. Oh really Yeah, Like when Paige

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Speaker 2: or come off. Azaiah did the same thing, Madison Scott

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Speaker 1: They all had their hand. Okay, do you know what

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know what you am here

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Speaker 3: for it, but own it, So I know what you mean.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't see that because after I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say but my job at the draft was after all

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Speaker 1: So when they were talking to me, they owned it

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Speaker 2: The I don't know because even when they were walking

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Speaker 2: this because I don't want nothing to fall out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see, I ain't see. I ain't see that

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Speaker 3: They were pretty comfortable. But I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna do it like go all out. Also,

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Speaker 3: that's also some shit that little titty girls can do,

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Speaker 3: because I can't.

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Speaker 1: You ain't lying about that, girl, You ain't lying about that.

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Speaker 1: Put on a blazer. God, that blazer. It's like like that.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna say it like that.

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Speaker 3: If even a single button pop on that blazer. Girl,

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Speaker 3: charger girl, it's an all piece show. At that point,

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Speaker 3: they better pay me forty nine ninety nine stupid.

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Speaker 2: And the last thing I will say it did seem

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Speaker 2: with the exception of Kiki and.

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Speaker 3: Oh hold on, we got to shout out Snaya Rivers

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Speaker 3: because she had the white one with the bag and

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Speaker 3: the bag was like ben popping.

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Speaker 2: Popping all of that. She yes, yes, did it. But

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Speaker 2: overall I thought every drafty that came through there, I like.

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Speaker 1: Leather. Yes, And let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: I thought Hayley van Lyst looked just dropped dead gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: She snapped.

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Speaker 3: She I heard her say pre game she wanted to

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Speaker 3: give like a Marilyn Monroe kind of with the hair.

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Speaker 1: She knel it, she knowed it beautiful. I did. I

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Speaker 3: It was a vibe for sure. Shout shout out to

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Speaker 3: And it always irks my nerves right because I don't

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Speaker 1: You ain't have no draft picks. There are some losers,

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Speaker 2: But that's why Phoenix had to try and make some

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Speaker 2: the obvious answer is Dallas, because Dallas and Page and

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Speaker 2: They needed guards, they got Sonya. They needed a body

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Speaker 2: got Kiki eriea Fen and then because they needed a shooter,

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Speaker 2: they got Georgia Amore. And I was just like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not even mad at y'all, Like, y'all did what needed

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Speaker 2: to be done. Sydney and the gender new general manager,

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Speaker 1: In that first round.

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Speaker 3: And I think they, to me, were the real winners

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Speaker 1: And then if I had.

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Speaker 3: To do a top three, my three would be Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: You got a Mesa and Sinaya Rifvers.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Those those are absolutely my picks, you know, to your

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Speaker 2: they got to steal at number twelve with Asiah James.

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Speaker 1: I love her game, I love her athleticism, like she

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Speaker 2: Putting her in the mix with Irique and Paige, I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas also made some noise in the draft,

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Speaker 2: but I wholeheartedly agree with you with the mystics.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they could have done differently. You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: You get Citron, you get Area Fin, you get Georgia Amore,

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Speaker 1: Guard y and she's a shooter.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, Washington in addition to the pieces that they

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Speaker 1: They just might.

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Speaker 2: And no question, Connecticut, I mean you got Anissa Morrow

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Speaker 2: I love how hard they play and listen, no, Anissa

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Speaker 2: Morrow is not Alyssa Thomas, but she's an undersized post player.

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Speaker 1: Yeap, that is going to rebound the ball.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna compete, she's gonna play hard, she's gonna defend,

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Speaker 2: she's gonna give you all the things that an Alyssa

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Speaker 2: Thomas gave you right as far as.

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Speaker 1: Her ability to compete and play hard.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think you can go wrong with adding

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Speaker 2: my mom just to say, quiet is it's kep. I

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Speaker 2: think some people sleeping on Senaya rivers. Mama, Si, quiet

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Speaker 2: as it's kept. I think some of y'all are sleeping

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Speaker 2: on Senaya rivers.

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Speaker 1: That kid is nice. She's going to be a hell

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Speaker 2: I liked her when she was at South Carolina right

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Speaker 2: it is what it is. But I love me some

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to Sonaya after the draft and I said,

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Speaker 3: rebuild mode, but you got players like Tina Charles that

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Speaker 3: you can learn from. And she countered and was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, this isn't unfamiliar to me because when I

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Speaker 1: So that is true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in a situation like Connecticut where all of their

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Speaker 3: who's to say that we can't make some magic happen

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Speaker 3: with what we got. You know, she seemed very excited

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Speaker 3: to play with Tina very excited to play with Anissa,

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Speaker 3: who she's played with previously. She said, you know, I

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Speaker 3: lot that can be learned. But I also feel like

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Speaker 1: To me instantly, a starter, Oh gosh. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And it's all about where you go, right like the

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Speaker 2: fit her going to Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: Great fit, great place, great opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, you got nothing to lose at this point.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to lose.

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Speaker 3: It's a new coach, it's your system, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a new day. So you really have absolutely nothing to

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Speaker 3: lose at this point. So yes, now I'm gonna look

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Speaker 3: mind first to me was the Golden State Valkyries.

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Speaker 1: It's your first drafts.

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Speaker 3: It's yours, it's your first opportunity to grab yourself a young,

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Speaker 3: bona fide star. And I'm looking at this draft board

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Speaker 3: and when I heard a name that was not Anissa Morrow,

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't matter who you picked, it was the

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Speaker 3: fact that you didn't pick Anissa kind of blew me away.

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Speaker 3: I was expecting somebody, as you just you know, alluded

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Speaker 1: Her ability to play inside. She's a walking double double.

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Speaker 3: I strongly think she's gonna lead the league in double

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Speaker 3: doubles as it relates to rookies. And this is an

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Speaker 3: opportunity for you to add that and learn alongside of

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Speaker 3: Kayla Thornton and a Mobile and like just just be,

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Speaker 3: just be a dog.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised, and.

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Speaker 2: I am too, because when you look at the players

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Speaker 2: they got an expansion draft like Anissa to me, would

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Speaker 2: a fit right along based off of what it looks

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Speaker 2: like your identity is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, a Mobilings, a Kayla Thornton, even a Kate Martin,

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Speaker 2: like an Anissa Morrow, like those are all dogs that

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Speaker 2: are just gonna compete every single play.

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Speaker 1: And it's not to take anything away from I don't

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Speaker 1: know what hers her name.

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Speaker 3: It's you stay Yoyssete, you stay yoyste. I had to

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Speaker 3: go get the draft pronunciation guy.

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Speaker 2: Like, it's not to take anything away from her. I

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Speaker 2: just I agree with you, Anissa Morrow could have been

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Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, Tee. The other thing I

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Speaker 2: look at is I also know the Valkyries, with the

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Speaker 2: so maybe they're just trying to go with the whole

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but we'll see.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I was quite surprised, but I did like

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Speaker 3: even when she was playing in Princeton. She definitely got

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Speaker 3: was a good pickup for them. And again, Chyenne Sellers

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Speaker 3: is going to be Chyenne Sellers. I would have been

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Speaker 3: cool with seeing Chyanne in Washington. I just thought it

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Speaker 3: that she went to Maryland kind of would have you know,

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Speaker 1: So there was that.

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Speaker 3: But I was just really surprised at Golden State. And

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Speaker 1: A part of me is like, Okay, maybe I get.

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Speaker 3: It right, Like Sadona got some shit with her right

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Speaker 3: I ain't really you know, but I was surprised that

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Speaker 1: Were you? I was? I was not.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. I don't care where you are,

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Speaker 2: So if if we're not going to overlook baby's situation,

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Speaker 2: just for like, I don't want to touch it. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to touch it. Let's just leave it alone. Also,

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? Her age and her injuries? Yes? And so

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Speaker 2: You're twenty five, like you should be really dominating your

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00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 2: opponents in college, and she really didn't.

440
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Right.

441
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of gms are like, listen,

442
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: you got these allegations out there, you're twenty five, you're

443
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: prone to injuries. We just don't want to touch it,

444
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, what I mean, and so that just kind

445
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: of left her out there like that. But I want

446
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: to ask you a question. And I'm asking this question

447
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: because I read it on social media. So somebody said

448
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: they're there's no way in hell Sadona Prince is gonna

449
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: get drafted with all the things, all the allegations against her,

450
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: and Kennedy Carter's not getting another shot, right.

451
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: I read that.

452
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: Here's my response to that. I get it, and I

453
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: probably tend to agree. You know, I felt like Kennedy

454
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: Carter's second chance in the WNBA was last year with Spoon. Right,

455
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 2: Spoon was the only coach that was like, Nah, I'm

456
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: gonna bring her back. I'm gonna give her a shot.

457
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: And let me rewind and be very very very clear

458
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: on something. Kennedy Carter is a top five guard.

459
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: In the WNBA.

460
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: So does she deserve to be in the WNBA one

461
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: hundred percent? Yeah, Why isn't she in the league?

462
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's reputation more than anything, right, Because

463
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: keep in mind, I had the same question and conversation

464
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: years ago after Courtney Williams between her and Crystal Grafford.

465
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I remember having a conversation.

466
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: With Courtney after that, and like, I don't mean it

467
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: had none to do Accordy. The situation obviously did, but

468
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: I mean, like that was one situation.

469
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: But I agree with you on that.

470
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: Courtney has an entire individual and Crystal as an entire individual,

471
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: were labeled and there was a reputation out now and

472
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 3: there was this whole thing because they talk a certain way,

473
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: and they dressed a certain way, or they act a

474
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: certain way, or they you know, all of that played

475
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: into well, you know she got into a fight, blah

476
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and you know they did this, and

477
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: it was just like that was one incident.

478
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: Fact, that's not the fact.

479
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: Like that's just one thing, and that one thing ran forever.

480
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: And so I know that there may have been multiple

481
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: situations where people would say, well, she didn't get love

482
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 3: in La, she didn't get love in Atlanta.

483
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Speaker 1: I will say this, there's more than one side to

484
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Speaker 1: a story.

485
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 3: But I know a few sides to some things that

486
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: happened in one of those stops, And honestly commend Kennedy

487
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: for keeping her mouth shut and keep on some things

488
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: that she could have blasted some folks for. But with

489
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: all of that being said, though I don't think that

490
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: Kennedy did herself any harm last year. I think that

491
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: number one, folks were overly sensitive because the one thing

492
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: that she did get into was the collision with Caitlyn Clark.

493
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: Now I agree with you on that.

494
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, folks got pissed about it. I don't think that

495
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: she did any harm to herself. I think her reputation

496
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: has people shook and it shouldn't be.

497
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: And Spoon was the one person that was willing to

498
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Speaker 1: take a chance on it because she understood.

499
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: She understood what she was doing and I don't know

500
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: what these gms are doing. So now have Kennedy on

501
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: the roster because Kennedy instantly makes her team better.

502
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: She does without question.

503
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Speaker 2: I personally didn't see anything wrong with my own eyes

504
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: that Kennedy Carter did that would warrant her not being

505
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: in the WNBA. So I guess when I bring that up,

506
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you know, just things that you hear

507
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: and you read about how she was an issue in

508
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: the locker room and things like that. I don't know

509
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: that because I wasn't there. But my point being, if

510
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: gms are willing to overlook the these Sedona Prince allegations

511
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: and say, yes, she should be playing, then damn it,

512
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Kennedy Carter should be playing too.

513
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nope, that's all I'm saying. I totally understand your point,

514
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's a very valid point.

515
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: It's a point well taken. Again, I'm always surprised because

516
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: if I'm keep it a buck, as I always do

517
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: on this show, white players don't always get the same

518
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: treatment as black players, and a lot of shit get

519
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: overlooked from white players that don't get overlooked from black players.

520
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: So it did surprise me that people were not willing.

521
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that I don't disagree with them

522
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: for it, because I think you're absolutely spot on.

523
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: If you're gonna treat one player one way, treat them

524
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: all that way. But you're right.

525
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: But I do know there's a history of certain players

526
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: getting a little bit more leeway than other kinds of players.

527
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: So I was surprised by it.

528
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: But when we come back, we will continue to talk

529
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: about the WNBA draft, and I got something else that

530
00:27:54,440 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: surprised Mi Chael, So stay with us, you know, Cheryl,

531
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Speaker 3: I was also surprised.

532
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: You know what.

533
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: Let me preface this by saying this, I love the

534
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: fact that players have an ability to hit the transfer portal.

535
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: We talked about this before in our last episode and

536
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: just be able to like kind of do what they

537
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: feel is best for them in their careers.

538
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: But I do think there may be a time where

539
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: sometimes I already know where you hit it.

540
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: I think sis, but there may be a time because

541
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 3: there's always an exception to the rule where maybe transferring

542
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: ain't always the best. Sometimes staying where you are, persevering

543
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: through that final year maybe what's best for your career.

544
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: And that could have been the case for Dejah Kelly.

545
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I was sure that Dejah Kelly was going to be

546
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: drafted on draft Day, but then I looked back over

547
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: the impact. Great player, incredible in the communications space. She's

548
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: definitely going to own being a reporter whatever she does.

549
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: But I was sure she was someone who has a

550
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: skill set that can translate into the WNBA. But I

551
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: think that there may have been gms and coaches who

552
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: looked at her career with North Carolina versus the year

553
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: she spent at Oregon and didn't quite feel the same,

554
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: And in my head I just kept thinking, what would

555
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: have happened had you stayed at UNC.

556
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was.

557
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I was shocked when maybe not shocked, but I was

558
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: surprised that I didn't hear her name.

559
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: And then I immediately thought the same thing.

560
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: Did her transferring to Oregon affect her draft stock? Yeah,

561
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: because I'll also be honest with you, T I heard

562
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: more talk and conversation about Dejah Kelly when she was

563
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: at North Carolina than I did with her being in Oregon.

564
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I didn't really hear a lot of.

565
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: People talking about Dejah Kelly this past season.

566
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's when I, you know, I asked

567
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: the question.

568
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: Of to your point, be careful, right, like, be careful

569
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: when you're making decisions in the moment to transfer whatever

570
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: it is you're gonna do, because you don't know how

571
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna affect you long term.

572
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Now, well, someone invite her to a training camp.

573
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure she'll get invited to training camp,

574
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: but absolutely, I don't know. I was surprised that I

575
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: did not hear her name get called.

576
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised at that as well. Was she there, Yes,

577
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I believe Danjiel was there. Wow, I believe she was

578
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: at the drafts. But yeah, I didn't hear her name called,

579
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and that surprised me.

580
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, let me just also say this though, and

581
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: this is something that you know, for those who did

582
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: not get drafted, that does not necessarily mean that your

583
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: career is over. There are so many incredible players. I mean,

584
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: look at Becky Hammond, look at you know, Erica Wheeler.

585
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: Just there are so many players that have an opportunity

586
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: to play at the next level and play incredibly well

587
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: without ever being drafted. They make a training camp roster,

588
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: they battle it out, they fill in, and the next

589
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: thing you know, they're on a spot, they're on a roster,

590
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: they're on a team. So I don't want anybody out

591
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: there listening who may have a friend, a sister, a

592
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: soor more, a brother or whoever, and your girl did

593
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: not get her name called on draft night, don't think

594
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: that your dreams are over because you can very well

595
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: still play at the next level in the WNBA as

596
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent.

597
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: So just keep working. It absolutely doesn't mean that it's over.

598
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: But can I just bring up one point and I

599
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: ain't gonna say surprise, I'm gonna say disappointed in this one.

600
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: And for those who don't know and maybe didn't watch

601
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Diamond Johnson from Norfolk State. Yes, that kid deserved to

602
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: have heard her name called at the draft. So to me,

603
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: it raises the question of did you not draft her

604
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: because she went to an HBCU. It's a question I

605
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: don't know because don't talk to me her high. Talk

606
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: to me about how she gets buckets and how good

607
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: she is and how competitive she is. That one disappointed me,

608
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: and especially when I look at this. Isn't to take

609
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: anything away from the players who were drafted, but you

610
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: can't tell me that there were thirty seven players that

611
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: got drafted that are better than this kid.

612
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I won one hundred percent agree, and to me, raised

613
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: her draft stock with her performance against Dylan And yes, yes,

614
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: like did y'all not see that?

615
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: I was completely shocked, And honestly, I don't think there

616
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: was only but one HBCU player who was drafted. And

617
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: when I say one, it wasn't even that she was

618
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: drafted from an HBCU. She graduated from an HBCU and

619
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: then went to Alabama as a graduate transfer and was

620
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: drafted in the third round I believe from Alabama, So

621
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: her credit ain't even going to.

622
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: Be the HBCU.

623
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, No, But isn't that the case with Diamond Johnson.

624
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to get the school wrong, but didn't

625
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: she go to.

626
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: Rukers? Yeah, she transferred to to Norfolk State.

627
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: Right, she transferred from a Power five to at HBCU.

628
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: Now this is a whole different conversation for a different day, Errol,

629
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: because I could go all day.

630
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: But I needed to bring it up because I'm in

631
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: my feelings about it, and I almost say to.

632
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: Diamond Johnson, I don't know if you're gonna.

633
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: Ever hear this podcast, this episode, but I just want

634
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: to say to you, keep doing what you're doing. Keep

635
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: your head up because somebody is going to find you.

636
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: See you, recognize your talent and your basketball career and

637
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: journey is not over.

638
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: So keep doing what you doing.

639
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: Since absolutely agree with that one hundred percent love it,

640
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: and I mean literally for all of you, you know,

641
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: for most of you, let me say, oh, for most

642
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: of you who were undrafted, who were snubbed, use that

643
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: as fuel. Like a journey does not end just because

644
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: you don't hear your name called on draft night. I

645
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: believe that, and I just think there are so many

646
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: talented women who can still play in this league if

647
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: given the opportunity.

648
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: So just keep working and keep grinding.

649
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I'm excited to see what

650
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: the WNBA is gonna look like. In twenty twenty five,

651
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: it was a fun night. Everybody looked good. So yeah,

652
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and just say that I still

653
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: think that I have no idea who's gonna win the

654
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: WNBA Championship. I ain't ready to go that far yet.

655
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: Draft Day and Draft Night ain't changed my mind on nothing.

656
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: I still ain't ready to say nobody's doing nothing in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Holl let me on May sixteenth, when

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Speaker 3: the season started, I might have something.

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Speaker 2: Then I agree with you on that one. I just

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Speaker 2: think it's up for grabs right now. When you look

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Speaker 2: at all the different moves that teams made in free agency,

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Speaker 2: and then you look at the draft and the other

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Speaker 2: pieces that they added, and you know, t at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, there are two things that always

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Speaker 2: has to happen.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a little luck and you gotta stay

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Speaker 1: injury free. Yep, that's it.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a big reason why team succeed

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Speaker 2: and why they don't.

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Speaker 1: So I'm there with you.

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Speaker 2: I ain't ready to call it either, but I probably

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Speaker 2: got a few teams in mind, but I am college.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same saying, well, when we come back, we will

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Speaker 3: level our show on out with some words from our

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Speaker 3: good homie Shirl.

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Speaker 1: She always got some gems that she drops at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show, So I try, I try.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this episode, Cheryl, because I really cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: Like I always feel happier than maybe I should.

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Speaker 1: I know, as a reporter, I'm supposed to be kind.

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Speaker 3: Of neutral and like not having a favorite and all

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Speaker 3: that other stuff, but like, I genuinely am happy for

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Speaker 3: these young ladies, for the opportunity that's presented for them.

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Speaker 1: I guess so excited.

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Speaker 3: Like I get so excited for them just seeing their faces,

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Speaker 3: seeing their families, the coaches that show up to support them.

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Speaker 3: And then now since they've added the fan element, you

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Speaker 3: can see the fans getting a hats and bringing in

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Speaker 3: the jerseys and everything, like they're just really so ready

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Speaker 3: for these young girls. And then when we're seeing them

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Speaker 3: play in college and we've covered them for years, it

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Speaker 3: just feels like it feels like one.

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Speaker 1: Of your own. It's like moving on to the next part.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really excited to see like how they make

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Speaker 3: the best of this opportunity moving into the WNBA.

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Speaker 1: Me too, I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for all the players that were drafted, but

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Speaker 2: I'm also excited for the players who will get their

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Speaker 2: invites to training camp, because even if you don't make

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Speaker 2: a team, there are so many other opportunities for you

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Speaker 2: to still play. Going overseas, you got athletes unlimited, you

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Speaker 2: got to unrival But just getting that opportunity to be

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Speaker 2: in a professional training camp will give you that experience

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Speaker 2: that you need.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited, and my.

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Speaker 2: Quote for today hopefully will touch some of these young

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Speaker 2: ladies who didn't hear their names called in the draft.

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Speaker 2: You might be feeling down a little bit, so hopefully

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Speaker 2: this will uplift you a little bit. And also even if

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Speaker 2: you're not playing sports, hopefully if you're feeling some type

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Speaker 2: of way, this will uplift you. This is a good

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Speaker 2: one for me, and it's from Henry Ford, and it says,

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Speaker 2: when everything seems to be going against you, remember that

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Speaker 2: the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it.

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Speaker 1: I love that like that.

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Speaker 2: I like to love that perseverance regardless of what's coming

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Speaker 2: or going against you. As long as you persevere, you

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Speaker 2: keep going, don't give up. You two can get to

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Speaker 2: where your destination is. So keep going.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely love that. That is a perfect way to end

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Speaker 3: today's show. So thank you all everybody for listening to

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Speaker 3: this week's episode of Levels to This. We will be

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Speaker 3: back next week with more next level conversations, just talking

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Speaker 3: about the real shit that we go through as women.

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Speaker 3: And remember that this just isn't our show, it's our show,

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Speaker 3: and so we want.

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Speaker 1: To hear from you.

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Speaker 3: at Levels to This Podcast at gmail dot com. Tell

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Speaker 3: us what you thought of this week's show, maybe what

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about next. We love getting topics, recommendations,

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Speaker 3: and suggestions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, follow us on Instagram at lttpod So until then,

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Speaker 3: keep your mentals ground level and we will be back

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