1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Rivers on her center takes the hand off looking left 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: that wants to go up top as Tyrrell Williams hits 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: some in stride twenty five, twenty fifteen ten touchdown Chargers 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Rivers to Williams. That was Mett money Smith's call of 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Tyrrell Williams is seventy five yard catch. Last Sunday on 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers Broadcast Network. Hey everybody, Chris Harry with you 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: on Chargers Weekly. A great show today. ESPN Giants reporter 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Ronan joins me in a bit to give this 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: week's opposing view. Chargers dot Com reporter Helly Elwood also 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: stops in to share the latest surrounding the team. Both 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: owner off the field, but we kick things off picking 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: some of Week five's biggest games with NFL Media's Dave Damashek. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: Dave Damashek joins me on Chargers Weekly. You can follow 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Damascheck. Make sure to download the 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Dave Damashick Football program on iTunes or NFL dot com 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: slash podcasts. Dave, how are you, sir? I'm fine And 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: one little amendment I would say, don't do it on 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: iTunes or NFL dot do both do both. Yeah, it'd 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: say it's extra fun. Yeah, absolutely, we'll do both. And 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: if you watch NFL Network as much as I do, 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: you know there's a great show on the weekends called 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: NFL Pick Them and I just got the air times. 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: It airs six am, eleven am eight pm on Saturdays 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: and then three am on Sundays. Yeah, for that late 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: night crowd. Right, Oh, I see, I was thinking about it. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: See that shows in our age. Yes, about fifteen years ago, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I would have been in your headspace like, oh, that'll 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: be a perfect way to cap off a terrific night 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: on the town. In my head well, I mean I'll 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: be in bed with the kids, you know, probably I'll 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: fall asleep on the couch by nine pm. I might. 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: I could see being up early and excited for football. 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: It'll be it's kind of like a mixed demo. You 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: get the people coming out from from like the diners, 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, the interesting. Yeah, that'd be funny to see 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: what age group is watching the show more. But Dave, 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: this is a fun show, right, It's it's the whole 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of NFL podcast crew picking games here at Culver 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: City the week before. Just tell me a little bit 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: more about how it goes down. I was talking last 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: year before the season kicked off about the fact that 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: my show Around the NFL and Move the Sticks all 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: three shows, like any other football show, in front of 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the games, is going to spend some time picking what 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: the games are. And sure, you know it's not calculus 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: that you know, a football fan the closer you get 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: to kick off is interested to find out what people say, 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: who they think is gonna win the game, and who's 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna perform well and all that sort of thing. And 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: so we said, listen, we have we're making these videos. 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: We're recording the sound of us making our game picks. 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Why not turn that into a TV show? And so 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: they did, and now the rest is history. People seem 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: to like it quite a bit. That's awesome. Well, hey, 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: I have a six pack of games that we're gonna 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: pick here. But before we before we get to that, though, 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: we're at the quarter point of the season, four games in. 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: What's caught your eye in this NFL season? A lot 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: of a lot of weird stuff has happened. I think 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: that we always feel like every football season, like, wow, 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: these standings, no one predicted this. This is the wackiest 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: football season ever, But I think if you look four 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: games in more, very often you would see some teams 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: that don't don't strike you as what anybody would have expected. 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: But that being said, twenty seventeen has really gotten to 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: be very weird very quickly. I mean, I think that 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought the Giants were going to 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: win that division this year, and I didn't. Don't count 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: me in that group. I thought the Eagles were going 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: to win it. And that pick is looking pretty good. 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: What pick doesn't look so good? As I had the 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Chargers winning the AFC West, And I mean, it's a 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: shame for the kid that he missed those two kicks 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: because they could be writing the mix right now, and 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's still a chance that they can get 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: into the playoff mix. But I didn't see either one 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: of those teams being oh and four at this point, 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't see the Rams, conversely being three and one, 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and I didn't see the Jets winning two games all season, 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: let alone two in a row. So anyway, I guess 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: back to my original premise, which is that I guess 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: people are right to be, you know, looking at the 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen season thus far, and uh, and thinking what 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: gives is this is this thing I get? You know, 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: what what does rise above who? I mean, when would 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: you really think, as long as Tom Brady still in 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: the league, when do you think you would ever see 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: the Patriots be one in two in their first three 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: in Foxborough? I guess we should have really seen a 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: weird season coming with the with the season kickoff game 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: with Alex Smith, you could have dropped out the Houston 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Texans games exactly right. I mean, you know, if they 93 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady doesn't pull off a miracle on the 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: last play of the game, they're owing three in fox 95 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Burrows wild all right. It was a it's a nice 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: segue into Chargers Giants because these teams are owing eight combined. Dave, 97 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: I looked at these rosters, Rivers. You got Eli, you 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: got Beckham, you got Keenan Allen, you go Bosa Ingram, 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: all this star power, and these teams collectively have not 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: won a game. Can the Chargers get their first win 101 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of the season at midlife on Sunday? Well, definitely they 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: hand get the win. What they what what has broken through? Um? 103 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Some of the other things, the injuries, I mean, Verette 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: and Perryman and Mike Williams. Those are that that has 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately become um to too regular for the Chargers over 106 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Is that just you know, 107 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: bad luck is all you can ascribe to I think. 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: But the one thing that has shown through as a 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: bright spot, along with the way Melvin Gordon's looked when 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: when he's right, is Bosa and Ingram. You know I 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: talked to by the way, it is nice that Gordon 112 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: and Ingram too Melvin's I spoke with both of them 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: in advanced eminems well that they liked the M and 114 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: m's They want an endorsement deal and I am happy 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: to try and participate in that. I've in fact, I've 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: offered to UH to script out and come up with 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: like five different commercials that they could do to try 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: and because you know, I don't think enough sports celebrities, 119 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: celebrities in general take this step of like I'd like 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to endorse that will then make a commercial and then 121 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: maybe the product will come to you. So anyway, we've 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: we've flirted with that id In the meantime, I've asked 123 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: them both because I am not afraid to ask the 124 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: tough questions, isn't it weird to think that your team 125 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: can be competitive when you have not won but two 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: guys named Melvin on it. Melvin in football, if it's 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: if it's a chess off, then yeah, all right, then 128 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: then okay, I'll take the team that has the most 129 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: Melvin's on it, but football Melvin's. But listen, that being said, 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: Ingram's look dynamic, Bosa has two, and you know it's 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: it's like you have to almost say, like, you know, 132 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: it's surprising that their own four given those, But it 133 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: really is. With the specifically with the Chargers, it is 134 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: a couple of kicks away from being right in the 135 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: mix in the rugged AFC West. They've lost three of 136 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: those games by three points or less. You know, you 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: mentioned that that Dolphins game where Coom misses two field goals. 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, Eagles twenty six, twenty four, you get a 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: kick blocked Week one against Sobroncos. I say, you win 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: that game in Denver, it could be a momentum changing 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: kind of a catalyst for for the rest of the year. 142 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't. I think these guys just haven't. They haven't 143 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: won close games recently and they don't know how it fuels. 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I think once they once they finally win a game 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: and win a close game, I think that that kind 146 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: of can set the tone for the rest of the season. Yeah, 147 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: and I you know the Giants, Um, you know that 148 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: we know what they are, which is a one dimensional offense. 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: We know how dangerous Odell Beckham is, Brandon Marshall not 150 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: as much. But um you know with Sterling Shepherd and 151 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the rest that they are potentially a dangerous offense, but 152 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: probably not a consistent one. And the specific matchup to 153 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: just boil it down to one area on this coming 154 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Sunday is give me me Bane and uh and um 155 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Legion and boss uh and yeah and and and Ingram 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: against that offensive line. I mean Eli Um as much 157 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: as any successful quarterback in the league, we know his 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: success is predicated on eepen him cleanly. If you if 159 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: if he's feeling heated up on a given Sunday, he's 160 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna thrive. And so you think that 161 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers with with those pieces, like like I said, 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I think Verette's a big loss as well for that defense, 163 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: But still I like some of the pieces on the 164 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: back end and uh and I absolutely could see the 165 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Chargers getting off to Schneid this week. All right, it's 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly, So I'm picking the Chargers? Are you picking 167 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers? I'm gonna take the Chargers, all right. I 168 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: like that when I'm on Giants Weekly, though, I'm gonna better. 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be listening if you know Giants Weekly this 170 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: week and change your pick, all right? Some of the 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: big games, Dave Panthers Lions, and I didn't think that 172 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: this was gonna be a big game going into Week five. 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Both three and one Lions should be four and oh 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: really well back to back to where we started and 175 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: and how this season so far feels pretty weird. But 176 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: really look through all the Week five games and tell 177 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: me if you do an if anyone out there does 178 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: a confidence pool, which is not just picking the games 179 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: but ascribing a number of value to each one, and 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: how confident you are, tell me which one you're sixteen 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: and fifteen and fourteen games are? They all seem really tough. 182 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: They're all tough. They really Nothing jumps out of you 183 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: is like, well that one is a gimme for the 184 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: home team, but there really isn't this time around. And yeah, 185 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: like you say, the Lions at home could be undefeated. 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Like you say, Pandler's cam seems to be turning it 187 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: around a little bit right against the Patriots. You know, 188 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people wrote them off going 189 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: into that Patriots game, and he looked like his old self. 190 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: The thing that hasn't looked as good the last two 191 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: weeks is the Panthers defense. First couple of weeks, you thought, wow, 192 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the smoking mirrors, what tricks 193 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: they're pulling here to be repressing those offenses. Then you 194 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: look back and realize that the teams they played didn't 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: have very good offenses, and that explains that in the 196 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks it seems like they've been a 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: little bit exposed there. That being said, is Matt Stafford 198 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: and offense gonna really expose that defense? Give me the 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: Panthers by a whisker an intended between two two fee lines. 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: Who would win that fight? In the Ana lion or 201 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: a Panther A lion, I would think it's the king 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: of the jungle. So I guess, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go. 203 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Lions buy a hair just because there 204 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: at home in that Lion's defense has been playing really well. 205 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: The secondary's great ziggy Ansa is blown up the last 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: couple of years. He's one of those guys that when 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: he's been healthy since he got to the league, you 208 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: can see the talent there. I know you like uniforms. 209 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I do this this matchup. What do you think? What 210 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: do you think? He's Lions uniforms. That's gonna have to 211 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: be one of those ones I see with my own 212 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: two eyes, because the two shades of blue may clash, 213 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: but then again they may compliment one another. That's let's 214 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: take a weight and see approach on that. The one 215 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: thing I will say about the Lions uniforms, which are 216 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: upgraded from last year. I think there's a weird self 217 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: esteem issue. If you're a pro football team and you 218 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: feel obliged to label your jersey, let me know you're 219 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: the Lions, You're in the NFL. The helmet, Yeah, you're 220 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: a Lion. Like just so you know we're the Lions. 221 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Leave that to the Browns who write Browns on their 222 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: pants in orange. As a side note, but yes, all right, 223 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Nicks game, Jags at Steelers and this is your squad. Dave. 224 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Ravens last week. He be a little 225 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: heated on the sidelines. Yeah, I'm not gonna get too 226 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: caught up in the whole Antonio Brown history. Onics That's fine. Um, 227 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, give me as I said, And that's not 228 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: just because it's Antonio Brown. I always say that same 229 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: thing as Odell Beckham last year. To listen, if the 230 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: guy's punching a hole in the wall, you can't have 231 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: it both ways. He can't, do you not? What what 232 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: is it going to be? Football America? Do we not? 233 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Do we not like Jay Cutler because he h his 234 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: sitting face seemed to be apathetic? Or is it so 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: do we like that? Or do we or not like that? 236 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Or do we not like Odell Beckham punching holes because 237 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: he's too upset about a loss? Which is it? Choose 238 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: everybody one way or the other. You can't have them both. 239 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Give me the the passionate guys AB's business. Notwithstanding, I 240 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: was very happy with the Steelers victory, of course I 241 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I you know, the Ravens remain the chief foe in 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: trying to win the AFC North. The one asterisk I 243 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: put next to what appears to be a pretty impressive 244 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Steelers win is that the Ravens came back from London. 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Remember when it was a thing. You got a week 246 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: off after that, the Ravens have to come back and 247 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: play an important division game. I would not be happy 248 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: if I had been Baltimore there and then and then 249 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: how about the Jags. They go to London, then they 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: come back. Last week, you have to go to New 251 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: York to play the Jets. They have a road game, 252 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: then they have another road game. It really is screwy 253 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: for them. And it's kind of to this point in 254 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the season, the story for the Jags has been the 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: roller coaster. One week on, one week off, and and 256 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: this would be the week presumably for them to rise 257 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: back up. And you know, the Steelers have been a 258 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: little careless. Not Levy and Bell, but you know there's 259 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: there's a sense of which way is this thing going 260 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: to go? With the Antonio Brown stuff on the side, 261 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: I have a hunch, just based on the way Roethlisberger's 262 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: played since Todd Haley got there. He seems to get 263 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: into those hot streaks. And I don't know if it's 264 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: going to be in Week five or soon after, but 265 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a storm brew in favor of Roethlisberger 266 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: and company. I mean, how long can you really repress 267 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that overwhelming firepower that day? It's just a matter of time. 268 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: And I think Big Ben at home, we know how 269 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: he plays in Pittsburgh, and Levion Bell got right last 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: week against the Ravens and the Jags got gassed against 271 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Below Powell and Company in New York. So give me 272 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: the Steelers too. I like what the Jags are doing. 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I like Leonard Fournette and I think he could run 274 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: on the Steelers. But Pittsburgh at home, I think is 275 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: just too tough. All right, Ravens at Raiders, battle of 276 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: two and two teams, no Derek Carr, and even with EJ. Manuel, 277 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: they may be better offensively than the Ravens. Yeah, the Ravens, 278 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: you could you could sort of see that from a 279 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: distance that they're that what they have and had going 280 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: into the season on offense just didn't stack up with 281 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or Cincinnati. And you know, maybe Flacco. I've talked 282 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: to a lot of people who say Flacco, I don't 283 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: know if he's right or is that just Joe Flacco. 284 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe, Joe Flacco is not a guy who 285 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: for sixteen regular seasons, sixteen games, is going to carry you. 286 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it. It must be vexing, it must 287 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: be bemusing to the Ravens fan into the Ravens organization, 288 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: because there was no way you couldn't keep Flacco after 289 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: that special month he had four or five years ago. 290 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: But that's getting pretty far in the rear view mirror, 291 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: and you couldn't you know, you wouldn't want to go 292 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: into the great abyss of trying to figure out your 293 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: quarterback spot. But then again, Flacco is not good enough 294 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: to cover up any other deficiencies that you have on offense. 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: And for that matter, Burchard Perriman hasn't really broken out still. 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: I was waiting for that breakout this season. It hasn't 297 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: come so far in this season. So yeah, I mean, 298 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the bottom line is they don't have much of an offense. 299 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: The question is, of course, can that generally good defense 300 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: in Baltimore go out to the East Bay and give 301 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: ej Manuel trouble. It doesn't require, generally speaking, hasn't required 302 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: a high grade defense to get an ej Manuel's head. 303 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Let's see if he can turn the corner with upgraded 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: talent around him, and then Marshawn Lynch, I mean he 305 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: goes six for eighteen against the Redskins nine for twelve 306 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: against the Broncos, kind of looks like a shell of himself. 307 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: And I get it. Listen. You know, with no Derek 308 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Carr coming into this game, the offensive line hasn't played 309 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: that great. I kind of like the Ravens, like you said, 310 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: ej Manuel versus Joe Flacco, give me the Ravens by 311 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: a hair. I just don't see ej Manuel pulling out 312 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: of victory against this Ravens defense. I absolutely will not 313 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: be surprised if that's the way it turn turns out. 314 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: If the if the defense is close to healthy for Baltimore, 315 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: then yeah, definitely against ej Manuel, what's he ever shown 316 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: us you can point to. I mean, the praise for 317 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: how he looked against Denver is kind of damning that 318 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: that people say like, well, you know, he made a 319 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: couple of good throws, and they're like, all right, we 320 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: he's an NFL quarterback. I would hope he can make 321 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the ball spiral when he throws it. That have we 322 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: located Amari Cooper and Michael Crapch Are they playing? Are 323 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: they playing? I mean back to where we were ten 324 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: minutes ago. I mean, that's in a long list of 325 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: things that are hard to figure about this season. Amari 326 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Cooper can't catch anymore. Can't catch I mean Josh Normans 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: shut him down a couple of weeks ago. That was 328 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: a resounding loss. What's weird is that? I mean, I 329 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: guess it isn't that weird. It's just Father time come calling. 330 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: It comes for everybody this side of Tom Brady. And 331 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, it feels like Marshawn Lynche and Adrian Peterson 332 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: are the latest reminders that, for whatever reason in football, 333 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: when it goes for somebody, even if he's a future 334 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, when it goes, it's not a gentle decline. 335 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: It just is there one day and then the next day, 336 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: oh nope, they're not good anymore. Brandon Marshall, like we say, 337 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: is another guy who maybe fits that description. But yeah, 338 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: out of the out of that trio of if Jamal 339 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Charles counts as a future Hall of Fame er, out 340 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: of that trio, Jamal Charles is the clear cut best 341 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: of the three, and he hasn't done anything that great. 342 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, Peterson and Lynch have been next to 343 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: zero for their teams. I know, I think people were 344 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: kind of overestimating what Lynch was gonna be coming off 345 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: a year off of the NFL. I mean, you can't 346 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: just get back in the league and become your old 347 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: beast mode self. We're actually in the Beast Quake conference 348 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: room right now, that's true. Right over your head, I 349 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: can see those Neon Green leaders Rios saying, beast quake. 350 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: There's the old beast mode, all right, Dave. Two more 351 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Packers at Cowboys. This has been a lot of fun 352 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: rematch of less season's NFC Divisional playoff game. Cowboys, they 353 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of have to win this one. The Skins look 354 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: good on Monday night despite the loss, and like you said, 355 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: Philly three and one, they're rolling right now. Yeah, I 356 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: like Philly, as we say, but I m the Cowboys, 357 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: you know again just looking from a distance, just like 358 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: we say, the Jags seem week to week, one week up, 359 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: one week down. The Cowboys are in danger of falling 360 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: into a season version of that, which is I mean 361 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: with Garrett one one season up, one season down. You know, 362 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: a month into every season, you you scratch your head, 363 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: like I can't believe that the Cowboys lost at home 364 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: to the Rams. But you know, by, you know, around 365 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and you're sitting around the table, you might look 366 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: back and be talking to your uncles and saying, remember 367 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: when we thought the Cowboys were gonna be good this year. 368 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: Maybe they're just not a good team this year. You know, 369 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the the pieces don't really add up to a great team. 370 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Dez Bryant is still good, but do you 371 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: put him on par with Antonio Brown, Julio Jones or 372 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: anybody else? And no, and he's their one high end 373 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: pass catcher that Dak has da Dak I believe is 374 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: the real deal. I think Zeke's the real deal. The 375 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: offensive line is just slightly last than what it was 376 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: a year ago. Everybody points to that as the as 377 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: the virtue. And then you know there's a couple pieces 378 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: on defense, but there's no reason with Rod, Mary d 379 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Mayor and Ally as good as he's been, like, there's 380 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: no reason to assume that that is a really good defense. Yeah. 381 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: And the Packers, hey three and one, they do what 382 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: they do every year and win football games. Give me 383 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: the Packers, You're like, yeah, I like the Packers too. 384 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I think the pack win this and the Cowboys could 385 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: be in trouble. I think this would be their third 386 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: NFC game that they've lost through the first five games 387 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: of the season. And like I said, I think the 388 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: Eagles are rolling. I think the Redskins were for real too. Yeah. 389 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen hard to argue with the 390 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Redskins and imagine you got to be a little bit. Yeah. 391 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: I guess you can feel good the moral victories and 392 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing with the performance in Kansas 393 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: City on Monday night, but you also got to feel 394 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a little sick. Man Dotson did everything he had to do. 395 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: He had all the hard of that catch. Oh threw 396 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a great yeah, great play call. I thought that was 397 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: a little I don't I how did that sit with you? 398 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, Tony Romo's been one of the breakout stars 399 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: this year in the broadcast booth predicting what is about 400 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: to happen in the game. I didn't know about John Gruden. 401 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard him do that on 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: Monday night' say, like, you know, if I were the 403 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Skins here, I have a hunch, say, might U try 404 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: to throw the ball up in a one on one 405 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: spot like ing about that? Come on, Grude, that's cheap man. 406 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: Romo's not related to any of the guys, and he's 407 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: still calling the play. He can't just do it when 408 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: it's your brother Jay. No, John, Actually I think there 409 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: was a holding call to that. John said, Oh that 410 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: was fine, you know, good good noe call there. I mean, 411 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: Romo's been fantastic. I mean, he's been maybe the highlight 412 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: of the twenty seventeen seasons. So kind of yeah, yeah, 413 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: you can make a case. I wonder if he's he's 414 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: received I would say in a month of broadcasting, he's 415 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: received more love than he received over the course of 416 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: his entire playing. Was so dead about that? All right? 417 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: Dave last one Chiefs who we just mentioned at Texans. 418 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: This is kind of a sneaky game of the week. 419 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: And you remember two years ago when Brian Hoyer was 420 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: under center. This is a wildcard game and it was 421 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: like the driest playoff game of all time. Now you 422 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: add Deshaun Watson and Cream Hunt of the mix and 423 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. Yeah, you know, you could 424 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: make a case that the Texans, I'm not you know, 425 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: it's not positive or negative. Have maybe what's a negative 426 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: overall statement, The Texans maybe have played the most boring 427 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: collection of playoff games of any franchise ever. Remember, yeah, 428 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: when they've got into that thing of the Bengals every year, 429 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: those games were always dreadful and forgettable. The only thing 430 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: you remember about them is that they were forgettable. Um, 431 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: and now they're in a run the same thing with 432 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: the Chiefs here. Um. I will take the Texans only 433 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: because there's something called parody in the NFL, and I 434 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs are about to break this seventy 435 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: two Dolphins run of being the only undefeated team. And 436 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: the Texans defense man, you know, that was an easy 437 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: one to see. If JJ Watt was healthy, you knew 438 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: that that defense would be in the top three. I 439 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know statistically, just in terms of talent out there, 440 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and you know, Watson made sense for them at the draft. 441 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: Watson made sense as far as I'm gettcerned. He should 442 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: have been the first quarterback off the Blair board. And 443 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: that's not twenty twenty hindsight either. I said that all through. 444 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: You know, listen that it does matter if you win. 445 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: If you show an aptitude for being clutch in college, 446 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: that does carry through. I'm not saying that AJ mccare 447 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: and is guaranteed to be an NFL winner because he 448 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: was on a powerhouse team. Same thing with Matt Liner. 449 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: But if you show propensity in the fourth quarter to 450 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: make special plays, that does transfer into the NFL. And 451 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: on that team, with that defense, with Lamar Miller and 452 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and the other playmakers they have out there, 453 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: you just need a couple of special plays. It's sort 454 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: of the Niners formula from when they were a Super 455 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Bowl contender for those few years with Jim Harbaugh be 456 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: able to run the ball. You know, and imagine they 457 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: don't have Dwayne Brown yet at left tackle. Let's assume 458 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: he gets in there, then they become a really good 459 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: offensive line on top of everything else. I mean, they 460 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: might be with Dwayne Brown and some more reps for 461 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and he's a rookie, and no rookie has 462 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: ever taken his team to a super Bowl. But you know, 463 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: the Texans might be the best team in the AFC 464 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: outside of the Chiefs if they can it's an interesting spot. 465 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: If they beat the Chiefs then this weekend, then that 466 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: that's the talk you're gonna be hearing. Why do coaches 467 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: delay the inevitable? I mean, especially with these two teams. 468 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: You look at Kareem Hunt, if Spencer where had not 469 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: gotten hurt? Are we talking about Kareem Hunt right now? 470 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Why the Texans start Tom Savage, the Saints start and Peterson? 471 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is starting to get reps when these guys 472 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: are good. I saw Alvin Kamara break off a four 473 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: yard touchdown in the second preseason game of the year, Like, 474 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: why what are these guys waiting for? Just good? Put 475 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: the guys in. I don't know. I guess, I guess, 476 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: And I've asked a bunch of different players and coaches 477 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: that this question and what I've divined, and it's not 478 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: the same answer every time. I feel like though that 479 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: it does. First of all, you have to show respect 480 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: to the incumbents. So if you're if you're an established 481 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: running back, if your spencer ware to announce to you 482 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: after a good season in twenty sixteen, like yeah, hit 483 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the hit the bench guy, because we got somebody more 484 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: talented than you. I think it running back, you owe 485 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: a guy the reps. I think with the quarterback thing, 486 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, did the Texans really go out and get 487 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson not to start him over? Deshaun Watson I 488 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: felt like they always knew that, and I think that 489 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off the kid. I think to 490 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: not go through the entire offseas season because by the 491 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: time things kick off, then you're the man like you well, 492 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: the season you know, rises or falls on your shoulders. 493 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Kid is maybe a little bit too much for somebody, 494 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: Whereas if you bring him off the bench even a 495 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: half into the season, one half into the season, I 496 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: think it allows mentally, I don't know, I don't I mean, 497 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: part of the thing of being a professional athlete, aside 498 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: from the superhuman physical gifts, are that you know, I'm 499 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: sure you've experienced this too. Every player thinks they're the 500 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: best player in the world, so they all they all 501 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: believe that they're really good. So I'm not imbued with 502 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: that same level of confidence. But I would rather be 503 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: in a position to come off the bench and save things. 504 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: Then I would have the pressure of like do it 505 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: or else we got somebody else who's going to come 506 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: in and do it. That's that I think. If you're 507 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: the starter, if you're the guy who gets the first 508 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: crack at it, there you you then might look over 509 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: your shoulder, whereas like, hey, this guy doesn't look good, 510 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: so come in and see if you can fix it. 511 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: It gives you a breezier approach. Lad, he's the toast 512 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: of the town now and kind of brought a shot 513 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: in the armed to the Texans and they're riding high. 514 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: So hey, I have the Texas, Take the Texans. Yeah, 515 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: we both have the Texans, all right, Dave, it's NFL 516 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: pick them six am eleven am a pm on Saturday's 517 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Pacific and then three am on Sunday. What else you 518 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: got going on? What do you want to promote here? Um, 519 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat a whole bunch of food between now 520 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: and Sunday, so we'll be on the lookout for me 521 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: and some restaurants. So do we be eating burgers usually 522 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: with some cheese on them? Um? I, Uh, there's a 523 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: new Uh, there's a new Cajun crab joint in my neighborhood. 524 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna hit that and uh that you know, 525 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch them TV um and uh, I mean 526 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: outside of I'll probably sleep somewhere in there and uh, 527 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, outside of that, you know, we'll see how 528 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: we'll see how the rest of the thing plays out. 529 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: All right? Downloaded Dave Damage Football Program on iTunes and 530 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com Slash podcast. Dave can't think you a 531 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: f your time, sure thing, and come on, Chargers, let's 532 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: go already, let's get it. Let's sweep the month of 533 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: October and go from there. If they win your good 534 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: luck charm, we're gonna have to have you back. Oh, 535 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: I like it all right, thanks Dave. Hey, fans, be 536 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: there live to support the LA Chargers this season. Always 537 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: buy your Chargers tickets from our official ticketing partner, Ticketmaster 538 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: and the NFL Ticket Exchange. Only. Ticketmaster has verified tickets 539 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: that are one hundred percent guaranteed to get you in 540 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: every time. Other sellers can only guarantee they'll give you 541 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: a refund if they sell you a fraudulent ticket. So 542 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: go with a trusted source and our official partner, and no, 543 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: you're going to the game, okay. To get this week's 544 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: opposing view, we bring in ESPN NFL Nation Giants reporter 545 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: Jordan Ranon to Chargers Weekly. You can follow him on 546 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jordan Ranon and Jordan Somebody's getting the first win. 547 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: Sunday at Midlife, what are the Giants saying about facing 548 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: these Chargers on Sunday. They know what the Chargers are. 549 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: They have Philip Rivers and a passing attack and they 550 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: played everybody tight. So hey, look, the Giants know that 551 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: they can't overlook the Chargers just because they're in the 552 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: same spot there when this team as well. So they 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: see a team and an NFL team that had some 554 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: strengths and that can do some things, and they've played 555 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: fairly well at least in some areas against some pretty 556 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: good team. The Giants understand that if they don't play well, 557 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, they especially their defense, needs to play better. 558 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: I think they realize that, and that's where they think 559 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: that they could have trouble. And also they've mentioned you know, 560 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. Those are two 561 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: guys are going to keep a very close eye on. 562 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: They see the damage those two guys are doing. And 563 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: what the Giants weaknesses are the Giants. Everybody knows the 564 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Giants offensive line, it just has not played well. It's 565 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: not very good in general, and it was a big 566 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: question mark coming into the season. So handling big pass 567 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: rushers is a problematic thing for this team. And then 568 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: look over there and where they see they see two 569 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: really really good pass rushers and two guys that can 570 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: really cause havoc and give this offense problems. I think, 571 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: so there'll be a lot of attention on those two 572 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: guys this week. Yeah, George, I would actually was going 573 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: to get into that later on, but let's just get 574 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: into it now because I think that's one of the 575 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: things that's going to decide Sunday's game is Melvin Ingram 576 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: and Joey Bosa versus this Giant's offensive line, and those 577 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: struggles that you mentioned, they've been well documented. How do 578 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: they slow Bosa and Ingram? Yeah, I mean that is 579 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: just a good question. The Giants haven't been that willing 580 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: to keep their tight ends in and help and chip 581 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know how they could sit 582 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: there and not have a game plan where they give 583 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: them consistent help on the edges. I mean, Eric Flowers 584 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: at left tackle has been a problem, and if they're 585 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: gonna leave him one on one with either of those 586 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: guys at any point it's for a significant amount of time, 587 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big problem for the Giants. So 588 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: they have to, you know, at least consider giving their 589 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: tackles help. I mean, we don't really know how the 590 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Giants are going to configure and line their offensive line 591 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: at this point, because they just it's been, as you know, 592 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: the guard Justin Pusai, it has been like musical chairs 593 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and their centers now brushing protocol. Justin Pugh was the 594 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: originally their left guard. Now he's playing right tackle. Is 595 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: he going to stay there with Bobby Hart who was 596 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: their starting tackle Week one and now he's back healthy. 597 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: So the Giants and it's really gonna be interesting to 598 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: see how they configure their offensive line for this game. 599 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: And you have to think that keeping Justin Pugh on 600 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: the outside is going to be a priority because he's 601 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: their best offensive line And let's be honest, and if 602 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: they have Eric Flowers and Bobby Hart, two young guys 603 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: on the edges, I just don't see how they're gonna 604 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: be able to handle Melvin Ingram or Joey Bosa at all. 605 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: So I assume Qugh is gonna stay on the outside 606 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: in some way, and then they have to consider heavy, 607 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: heavy help for the other guy, likely Eric Flowers, on 608 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: the left side throughout this game. Otherwise Hells just get exposed. 609 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean he was exposed already a couple of times. 610 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: This year and the same thing last year, and just 611 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing to say that he's going to be able 612 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: to block those guys consistently in past protection. And the 613 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Giants they can't really run the ball well. I mean, 614 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: they ran for ninety one yards last week and it 615 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the running game was amazing. You 616 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: know this, this was like a big thing for them. 617 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: So they have they have I think got like two 618 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: hundred right around the two hundred and fifty yard mark 619 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: of rushing in four games combined. So they're averaging around 620 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: sixty plus yards running a game and it really have 621 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: no running game to speak of whatsoever. So it puts 622 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on the tackles and you know, 623 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: the bosses and the and the ingrams can just sort 624 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: of pin their ears back. They really don't need to 625 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: worry about the run very much. The Giants leading rusher, 626 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: by the way, has somewhere around sixty yards or I 627 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: think it's sixty one yards rushing. Wow, that's the state 628 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: of the running game right now. Yeah, sixty one yards rushing. 629 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: And you know, Jordan, one of the things that these 630 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: two teams have in common is not being able to 631 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: run the football and stopping the run. I mean the 632 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: Chargers are twenty ninth and rushing offense, the Giants are 633 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty eighth and rushing defense. And then the Giants are 634 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: thirty first and rushing offense, the Chargers thirty first and 635 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: rushing defense. How do you expect this running game to 636 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: impact what happens on Sunday? Yeah, I mean, look, it's 637 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. For the Giants, it's just they need 638 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to run with a little success so that they can pass, because, 639 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: let's be honest, that's what their offenses. They are a 640 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: pass first offense and their run is sort of to 641 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: complement the pass, not the other way around. Like, there's no, 642 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: this is not a running team. And then they play 643 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: off that they're passing team and just trying to keep 644 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the defense honest with the running game. So look, they're 645 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: not going to go out there and run the ball 646 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: thirty times. But it's really and you talk about the 647 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: other side, it's really that this is the real one 648 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: of the real head scratchers of the season for the 649 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Giants is why they haven't been able to stop the run. 650 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: This was one of that I believe the first versus second. 651 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: I believe run defense in the league last year, so 652 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: they really didn't lose. They lost one player on defense, 653 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: one significant player. To see them drop that much has 654 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: really been staggering. Uh. And but still I would caution 655 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: that saying that even though there I think would you 656 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: say they're twenty eighth right now, I think there there 657 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: were thirty So even though they're twenty eighth right now, 658 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: I would say this is not going to be a 659 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: team that is very easy for the Chargers to run against, 660 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: especially since the Chargers running game has struggled. This is 661 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: not a team that's going to finish in the bottom 662 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: half of the at least in the in the twenty 663 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: five twenty eight range and run defense this year, at 664 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: least not as long as David Damon Harrison plays. It's 665 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: still hard to run the ball up the middle against 666 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: this giant team. Where you can have success and where 667 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: teams have proven they can have some success is on 668 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: some stretch. Play has been running towards the edges against 669 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: this team. And I think that if the Charger they're 670 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna have any success, that is where they're gonna have it. 671 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: And but I would be surprised that they were able 672 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: to really run the ball that much against the defense. Now, 673 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: the Giants have played some decent running attacks. You started 674 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: the Eagles last week. They ran the ball really well 675 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: against the Both the Chargers and the Giants, their running 676 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: games picked up. They play teams like the Cowboys and 677 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: really the Lions. They kind of shut down the Lions. 678 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: They broke one big run at the end of the 679 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: game that kind of tilted those numbers. So I don't 680 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: think you should look at the Giants defense and say, oh, 681 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: we could have a ton of success running the ball 682 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: against the defense. I still think that's a little bit 683 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: of an anomaly. Yeah, the Chargers had problems running to 684 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: the football last week. I think this game is gonna 685 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: be won in the passing game. But one of the things, Jordan, 686 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: these teams have started slow in every game they've played. 687 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: In fact, the Giants haven't scored a point in the 688 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: first quarter all year. I have to imagine that's whole 689 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: point of emphasis entering this week. Yeah, it really, it 690 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: really is. I asked just a few their guard tackle 691 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: what everyone to call them at this point? I said, hey, 692 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: do you have any theories? Why can you not? You know, 693 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: why are you not having success early? And no points? Granted? 694 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: The Giants had a chance at some points this past 695 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: week and they passed on it, but they tried to 696 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: go for another fourth down. But what he said is, look, 697 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: their fast paced offense and sometimes takes a little longer 698 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: to get into rhythm, and they're more successful later in 699 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: games because they're able to wear teams down. So that's 700 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: something definitely to keep an eye on, is that the 701 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: Giants have been more successful because they're running this fast 702 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: paced offense, trying to play tempo offense and has been 703 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: more successful for RELI minning that they can have more 704 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: success later in the game. But yeah, I mean, I 705 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: don't know what they can do to have more success 706 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: early because it's not like they can you know, like 707 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: how they how can they can't just scheme and say, look, 708 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna go run the ball, because they just can't 709 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: line up and run the football right now, they're just 710 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: not eating their repertoire. So I mean, but they're gonna 711 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: have to commit to it early. I think that's going 712 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: to be a key for them and saying, look, we 713 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: have to commit to this early. This way at least 714 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: we can have we can have the defense respect to 715 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: run a little bit and then maybe that'll open things 716 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: up early in the game for this team, that they 717 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: could hit a big fast play here there. But right 718 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: now teams are just sitting back on it and saying, hey, 719 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: come on, run the football earlier. We don't care. They 720 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: can go ahead, let's see you run the football. Prove 721 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: to us you can run the football. And so far 722 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: the season they have not been able to prove that 723 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: early in games. The Giants offense did come alive in 724 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: spurts these last two games. You had twenty four points 725 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: against the Eagles in the fourth quarter and then you 726 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: took a lead into the fourth last week in Tampa. 727 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: What have you seen offensively these past two games that's 728 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: different from weeks one and two. Yeah, really what I 729 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: talked about before the Tampa They've played a lot faster. 730 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: They've gone allow no huddle, try to get things moving quickly. 731 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: And also, let's be honest, you know what the biggest 732 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: differences with this Giants team. Odell Beckham Junior is healthier. 733 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is their best player, this is their 734 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: best offensive weapon. He is an absolute force. He changes 735 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: everything for this team in this offense and he instantly 736 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: makes them better. Teams are paying more attention to him 737 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: and opens them up for other guys. So really having 738 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham junior back is key and the biggest difference 739 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: for this team. He scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, 740 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: as you mentioned in Philadelphia when they finally woke up, 741 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: and then this past week he bought six passes for 742 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: ninety yards, you know, significant improvement for him, actually nine passes, sorry, 743 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: nine passes for ninety yards and including a big play 744 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter where he got down field really 745 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: for the first time this year. So Odell Beckham is 746 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: really changing their offense. That's what it's coming down to. Now. 747 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how healthy he is now 748 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: this week because even though he was getting healthier now, 749 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: he just located his finger in that game last week 750 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: and he's sort of tweaked that ankle injury that forced 751 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: him to miss the first game and be limited in 752 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: the second. So it'll be interesting to see how he 753 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: comes back. He's not going to be out there and 754 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: be one hundred percent on Sunday, I think that seems unrealistic, 755 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: and so it'll kind of just be a matter of, 756 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, how healthy he is. I mean, I think 757 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: that's something he's gonna have to deal with now going forward, 758 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: is that the Giants are gonna be dealing with Odell 759 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: Beckham being a little bit banged up pretty much for 760 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: a good portion of the season now and then they're 761 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: just gonna have to see what they can get out 762 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: of him. And I'm sure, look, seventy percent of Odell 763 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: Beckham is still really, really good. He's still a top 764 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: receiver at seventy percent, almost say, one of the top 765 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: receivers in this league. So anything above that that they 766 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: get from Odell Beckham is still a big boost to 767 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: this offense. Oh, he's a problem when he's healthy. And 768 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: believe me, the Chargers are gonna have eyes on Odell 769 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Hey Jordan Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, They're always 770 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna be tied together. Going back to that two thousand 771 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: and four NFL draft, Owen four is unfamiliar territory for 772 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: both of these guys. How has Eli handled this Owen 773 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: four start? I mean, Eli is exactly what you think 774 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: he is. He doesn't you know, he shakes off everything 775 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: that all stucks. Eli persona that you see publicly, that 776 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: really is the way he acts, and that's the way 777 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: he operates. You know he's looking at the next game. 778 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: You know every cliche you can sign, that's what he's 779 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: given you. The mellow, even keel, so you don't see 780 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: much panic in Elimanga. He went and said it in 781 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: a radio