1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? All right, we are here with Kathy 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: aang and today we had the most wonderful day running 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: around Manhattan in our Hyundai, having a fun day in 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: our Hyundai together. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: There's a dream. I'm so excited to have you here. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: I feel so grateful that I got to just spend 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: some time going around the city with you. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: This was really fun. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: I mean, no, we don't get this opportunity to just 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: like kind of hang. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: I know it. We're always gay. I am a busy 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: gebl so are you. 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: And when we're normally together, we're at work, so obviously 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: So it was really fun. 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: And now we're here at the podcast, which is also 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: really fun because I have so many questions. 19 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: For you, and I'm really excited to talk to you. 20 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Because Kathy, as I'm sure our listeners know, plays my 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: daughter on and just like that, and she plays Lily. 22 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Now Lily. 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: We were just reminded earlier by one of our producers 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: who watched the first. 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: Movie on the plane, Lily is. 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: The reason the first wedding didn't happen. 27 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: I know, kind of I mean. 28 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: You know, there's some magic juju around my character believing 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: that Carrie is meant for other things, you know, Like, 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: so I don't know why my Aunt Carrie isn't supposed 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: to be. 32 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: You do have a really special relationship with Aunt Carrie. 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel jealous. 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I have a relationship with her, but 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: I we have so much time together, and like you, 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: as a mom on this show are much like closer 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: to a friend in ways that like, I mean, like, okay, 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: it's true though, It's like you are kind of your 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: character is so open and communicative with Lily about things 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: that I think I would have been really uncomfortable talking 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: about with my mom for sure. Yeah, you know, and 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: and I think it's like it's a wonderful window into 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: what both someone who is protected protecting someone and like 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 3: truly also having to teach someone life lessons like how 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: you can balance also being their friend. It's it's a 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: it's they do it well, I'm so hard thing to balance. 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: So like I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah, I mean, 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Charlotte's motherhood journey is quite something and ongoing, ongoing, which 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: we love, we love so much. 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been doing the rewatch and it's like 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: so lovely to watch that. 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: To to go through that journey with you. 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Right, to know that you're starting way back and where 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: we've been able to go is incredible. Yeah, I agree, 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: I agree, it's. 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Incredible to player. 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: When people are say, oh, you know, doesn't it become 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: boring to play the same character, I'm like, no, not. 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: No, You're so different right, Like you have the same 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: dreams and goals and standards, but like we were talking 61 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 3: about in the car and our in our Hundai. 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Like. 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: You are so grounded in like a different way. Thank 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: you as a mom, and like watching it is different 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: than also experiencing it as an actress with you, which 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: is very fun. 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: But I love Shark. 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so glad you do. So let me 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: ask you this. 70 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Okay, so when did you first see 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Sex and the City? 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Okay, guys, I watched this in the city after I 73 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: know way what? 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had not seen it when you auditioned for 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: just like that? 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: No, did you tell us that you hadn't seen it 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: like before I auditioned? 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Am I gonna make you cry already? Wait? 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: What? No? 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So here's the thing again, It's like I 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: kind of grew up in a more conservative environment where 82 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: like my parents would not have been comfortable with me 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: watching the show, of course, when also I really wish 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: my mom had watched this show. You know, there's so 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: many things that I feel like, actually, I think my 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: mom is a Charlotte, you know, and so like there's 87 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: many ways where I feel like she could have found 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: like more freedom in her life, and like, anyway, it 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: doesn't matter, but I didn't get to watch the show. 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: And then watching the show, actually after already being cast, 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I was like, holy walk em holy you can say 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: whatever you want, sure, sure, but just like so so 93 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: kind of taken aback by the world that I was 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: about to enter. I kind of I didn't understand how 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: great of an opportunity I. 96 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: Had, honestly, like, you know, interesting, yeah. 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: And that probably would have freaked me out. 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: More fully known, yeah, because. 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: It was like it it's so revolutionary. 100 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: I mean everyone has says this, but you know, I 101 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: know it, like everyone knows that it has changed so 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: many women's lives forever. So like a lot of pressure 103 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: coming in in a good way, of course, No, but 104 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: I get. 105 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: That, I get that. I mean, it must be. 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: I can't really imagine what it would be like to 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: come in in the trajectory of the life of the show, 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, being Sex and the City, then doing the films, 109 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: then coming back to doing just like that. And so 110 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: you had auditioned, already gotten the part and then watched 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: Sex and the City. 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I watched. I watched the pilot because you know, 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: you do some research for sure. I watched the pilot 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: and the second episode okay, because also everything changes after 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: the pilot. But you know, you also just have to 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: get your self tape in of course, and. 117 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Your self tape was super brilliant because you played the piano, 118 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: which was one of the key parts of Lily, because 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Michael Patrick had already planned what was going to happen 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, and so Lily being 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: able to play the piano was so important. And you 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: were so impressive that you're acting and then you're playing. 123 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: And did you sing for us then or did we 124 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: not know you could sing that? 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 127 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: I mean my actions might have sent some thing in 128 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: with it, because they always like, you know, I have 129 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: pieces where I'm playing piano and singing right, But I 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: know that I played like a really beautiful jazz piece 131 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 3: for very happy ending the musical making and. 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: I just love that kind of music. 133 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: And it's different from what Lily plays, of course, but 134 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, I found some musicality and like I grew 135 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: up with music first. That was my first like art expression, 136 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: you know, and uh, it was very exciting anytime that 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: I could audition and like have a little music be 138 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: a part of it. And so Lily it was just like, 139 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: oh I am digging this and I didn't even know 140 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: how big this world, how juicy this world that she 141 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: was gonna like end would be. 142 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: So then you you do a deep dive on the show, 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then you were like, oh my gosh. 144 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: Then I was like, oh, but you can say anything, 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: oh whatever words. 147 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, But. 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: I think what was lovely is that, I mean, working with. 149 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: You every day. 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Thanks. 151 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: Okay, everyone's gonna come on the podcast and talk about 152 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: how lovely you are, but. 153 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: It's just true. 154 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: And like you, I pay them all you guys, secretly, 155 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm paying them under the table right now, go ahead. 156 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: But you know, like I hadn't ever been on a production, honestly, 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: I came from a theater background, So first of all, 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: it was like, this is just like a big change 159 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: in the style. Yeah, and then also the level of 160 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: production here. It's intimidating. 161 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I get it. It's big. It's a big show. 162 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: It's a big show, and everyone cares very deeply about 163 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: every little detail. 164 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 165 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but our first day together, I don't know if 166 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: you remember them. 167 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: Like our first day together was Future Burton. 168 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, on my chest, Oh my god. 169 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great day. 170 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: That was really fun. To have cute pictures from that day. 171 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: We'll put them up on the Instagram, okay, perfect. 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you just like immediately we're warm in 173 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: a way that like not everyone is as warm. Thank you, 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: and people, it takes energy to do that, and I 175 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: just could appreciate that, like you were making a space 176 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: for me. 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean you and Alexa were very 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: important and it was a it was a big deal 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: for us that you guys were now like functioning individuals 180 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: in our story after me my character trying to get 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: pregnant for so long, then having you as little children, 182 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: which was one thing and played by different actresses obviously, 183 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and like a whole thing, and now to have you 184 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: as like people we were planning to write storylines for. 185 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: It was crazy to think about. And you were so 186 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: perfectly cast, both of you, which was wonderful, Like you've 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: grown into you know the parts, and you're like so 188 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: at ease, and you know, it's wonderful to see. 189 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it took some time because it was also 190 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: like my my nerves, my confusion, my I I first season. 191 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: My goodness, you were not confused. 192 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: Come on, I I. 193 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: Didn't know who who I was. 194 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: And I felt so grateful for how patient everyone was 195 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: on Everyone was very patient on set, but also like 196 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: there were a million things going on. 197 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: First of all, I need to interrupt. You are so easy. 198 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: You might not inside feel this way, but you are 199 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: very easy. It does not take any work to be 200 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: patient with you or a little dream. All you want 201 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: to do is be perfect, which you know your Charlotte's daughter. 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: It's perfect that you want to be perfect. But also 203 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: like we just try to reassure you like you already 204 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: are perfect. That's all we have to do. 205 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: That's the only thing. 206 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: You're so easy. 207 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Kathy. 208 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I think something that has been really 209 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: lovely just being able to be like a recurring and 210 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: then now a series regular is like I get to 211 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: go on set and like. 212 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: I watch you guys. 213 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: I watched the Three Women, you know, and you're wearing 214 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: so many hats and you're like watching the way that 215 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: you are paying attention to everything going on, you know, 216 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: and like you just know everyone's job nowhere, every there's 217 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: just an awareness there that like I didn't have the 218 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: first season exactly how I was sharing was just learning. 219 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: We've been doing this thing for thirty years. 220 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: I know, but like it's like I'm so luck not 221 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: everyone can watch someone and like learn from them, like 222 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: you guys see, and so it's it's been an awesome 223 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: journey for me, just like Cappy to now feel way. 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: More confident season three. 225 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Like I'm actually like I feel good about season you. 226 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel really good about it. 227 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: It should absolutely, I mean I think you've been a 228 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: dream the whole time and you should be proud of 229 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: all of it. I know it's hard to watch yourself, 230 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: as we talked about earlier, but I love season three 231 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: and it's so great to see you kind of stretching 232 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: in different ways, you know, and getting to do different 233 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: things and you know, as your mom on screen I 234 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: am like. 235 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's like a woman. 236 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: You know. 237 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 4: It's so many. 238 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Crazy I know, I know, but it's really fun and funny. 239 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: And when we have those family scenes, it is a complex, 240 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, day and kind of picture because there's so 241 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: many people in so many different vibes going on, and 242 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's always a big day for the crew 243 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: for us to be in Charlotte's apartment because everything is 244 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: so wonderful and perfect blah blah blah. But like, you're 245 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: very very easy. You need to know that you're very solid. 246 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. We can stop complimenting each other. We 247 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: can just keep talking about it. I enjoy it. 248 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: I enjoy it. 249 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so you watched the show then you came on too, 250 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: and just like that, and then what was it like 251 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: to just go about your life and have the show on, 252 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: haveav you be part? Like? Was it weird? How do 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: people react in your life? 254 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: The show has opened up like so many opportunities for me. 255 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Good. 256 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just what happens. 257 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: Like it's there's a huge community, you know, and so 258 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: like I think, first of all, I learned about the 259 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: fashion world, you know, I just started to and it 260 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: was a whole other form of expression that like I, 261 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: as Kathy, was really uncomfortable with. Oh, I didn't really know, 262 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: you know, like I've been in costumes before, but I've 263 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: never really thought about myself like hey, this is who 264 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: I want to be today. I didn't really think about it. 265 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: Like from a creative yeah, yeah, thinking. 266 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: About like hey I can actually be an art piece myself. Yeah, 267 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: and that art that is on me can also actually 268 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: like let me be a different person. I mean like, okay, 269 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: that's obviously what a costume does, but then power, yeah, 270 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: when you get to choose it every day. And so 271 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: like I think it was just really cool to start 272 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: finding a new medium, you know, to express myself and 273 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: like coming from music and then going to acting and 274 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: then I don't know, it's just like I feel like 275 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: that's that's what every artist like wants to be doing, 276 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: just kind of learning about something new. 277 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: So there was that aspect of it. 278 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: And then it was also strange that like I would 279 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: ever be recognized. You know. 280 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 4: I went to a. 281 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: Bachelorette party in Texas and I gotta say I got 282 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: recognized like three times down one street and it was 283 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: really cool, and you know, like it's exciting. It's nerve wracking, 284 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 3: but like it's exciting to be a part of something 285 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: that brings so many people joy, which you just know 286 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: and no, it's true. Yeah, and so it was cool. 287 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: That part's cool. 288 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: I also just. 289 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: You know, I think, like I'm learning about acting. 290 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: Still, of course we are. 291 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely a lot, And like I think every 292 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: day just trying to be more grounded on set is 293 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: a fun experience for me. Everyone on the everyone is 294 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: like constantly trying to challenge us, And yes, I had fun, 295 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: especially this season ya testing. 296 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is the whole job I think 297 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: is showing up, being grounded, trying to deal with whatever 298 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: different thing that day is going on. It might be 299 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: the props, it might be that it's too hot, like 300 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier. It might be that we're 301 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: on Governor's Island and we're too hot. There's so many 302 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: different challenges that you don't necessarily know until that day 303 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: when you show up, right, So the whole work is 304 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: to ground yourself and to be able to be present 305 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: and then to do your part as best as you 306 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: can from a place of being present. 307 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: And you do that. It's a nice set. 308 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: Everyone is so supportive and you know, like it's a 309 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: high pressure environment, like time is money and so like, yes, 310 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: there's people who are like we gotta go, we gotta 311 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: do things, and like when things go wrong, I'm really 312 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: amazed just like how everyone so manages, so manages to 313 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: find a solution and also like be quite gracious, you 314 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: know as an actor too, Like you get some nice treatment. 315 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get some nice treatment. 316 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: And like I feel lucky to be on this kind 317 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: of production where like I can talk to the crew 318 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: and everyone just smiles. 319 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: There's so nice. They've been nice. Oh good, I agree. 320 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: I can't that they've like I mean they've stayed altogether, 321 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: like so many people have been here for twenty years. 322 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: It's true. I mean we're lucky. 323 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people have also. We were talking earlier 324 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: to another guest, John Benjamin Hicky, who you met about 325 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: people who have like gone on to be huge deals. 326 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Like we can't get them anymore on our show, you 327 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Which is wonderful, right because they're 328 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: so talented. Yeah, and we're just like, oh wow, they're 329 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: over there directing. They used to operate camera a you know, 330 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: but it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing. But but 331 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's been great just in New York City 332 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: to be able to you know, the crews here are 333 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: incredible and they've been together. Some of them are like 334 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: fifth generation you know Union. Yeah, Like, it's incredible teamsters. 335 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, so many, so many whole families, Like you'll 336 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: have brothers and cousins and you know, the dad will 337 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: have retired and you know, it's amazing. And also they 338 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: just work such crazy long hours. 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: Dude, I don't understand every time I get into a 340 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: car and have a conversation about just like being away 341 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: from your kids that long. 342 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: It's a huge commitment. 343 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: It's true. It's true. 344 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: So many of them have kids. 345 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: It's true. 346 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I know. The only good thing is that then you 347 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: get time off and you get to choose whether you 348 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: work or not. So that's the positive of the job, 349 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: is that you might, for instance, get a summer off 350 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: right or you might just choose to work. 351 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: So you can sometimes pick and choose, which is great. 352 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: And I know for myself as a mom, it's great 353 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: if you are having the luxury to be able to 354 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: make those choices. You know, sometimes it's just not a 355 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: great time, you know, so you don't do it, not 356 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: counting our show, of course, which I go. When I'm called, 357 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we will make it work. But obviously 358 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: our show is a special situation. So wait, talk to 359 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit about working with Sarah Jessica, because 360 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: you have some incredible scenes with Sarah Jessica. So you 361 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: had watched the show by the time you came, so 362 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: you knew, you knew, and were you scared? Were you intimidating? I? 363 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 364 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: Also, I feel like kind of embarrassed about the. 365 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: Friend what what? 366 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, just the. 367 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: First couple of times we got to work together again, 368 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: it's like I coming from like a theater background, and 369 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: she's just such a bro. 370 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know, like, oh I don't have to cheat out. 371 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: These like so oh my god, it's adorable. 372 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: Wait, I would never see you cheating out. 373 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's because Sarah Jessica knows how to help you, 374 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: like just like think we're gonna they're gonna be cute 375 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: little things. Oh my god, you know there was Okay, 376 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: So in our first scene together is after that we 377 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: shot together? Oh actually no, it was the recital scene, 378 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: but like one of our first like one on one. 379 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 4: Scenes that we shot together was. 380 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: I was talking about I was mad at you about 381 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm always mad at you, you. 382 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: See, I'm not. 383 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: I don't remember, but I went over to her house 384 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: and and. 385 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have those special scenes with an Carrey. 386 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're always so like you have these special scenes. 387 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, you get to wear the poncho. Well, okay, 388 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: so I don't even get to wear the poncho. 389 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: Okay. Let me tell you though. I made this comment where. 390 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: I was like, because I had been struggling to put 391 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: to figure out where the arms worried. 392 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: It on. 393 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: And then I told her I said like, oh, yeah, 394 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: that was a hard one to put on, don't I 395 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: think I even said like, don't worry about if, like 396 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: you can't figure I. 397 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: Don't know what I was. 398 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed about this. And I 399 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: said like, don't worry about it if you can't figure 400 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: it out. 401 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 4: I don't know what I was. He just came out 402 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: of my mouth. 403 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure she's Oh no, she was, and she was 404 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: so lovely and she was like laughing in such a 405 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: charming way, like, Oh, I don't have any problem with it. 406 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: She's the master of her clothes for sure. 407 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: But also the props, Like, give that woman twelve props 408 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: and she can handle it. I don't know how, and 409 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: she can match her continuity every single time. 410 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: What is that special gift? 411 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: So that's okay. 412 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: That was actually on our first day, or maybe on 413 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: a recital day, and I went over to video village 414 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: and I was like trying to figure out what I 415 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: had done with my left arm on what line? 416 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 4: And then I remember that's when I. 417 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: First oh, this was the time. 418 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: That was the time that Michael Patrick King was like 419 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: he wants everything to just be natural and real and 420 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: you shouldn't be thinking about how you look on camera. 421 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: And then he was like, no, no, no, I just don't 422 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: want you to think about anything and. 423 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: Just be Lily. 424 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: Hold on for one second. 425 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: Let's tell her viewers what we mean, because I do 426 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: realize we're using inside words. So video village on a 427 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: set is when so like the director and the writers 428 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: sit around in chairs around the monitors where they can 429 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: see what's happening on all the different cameras that are 430 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: rolling and the actors. 431 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: We're in the set usually, but then we also between. 432 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: Scenes, between action and cut, we can come over to 433 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: video village. But in sex and City World, and just 434 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: like that. We don't watch playback. Now some films, some 435 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: television shows, maybe an actor might say, hey, I want 436 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: to watch playback because they're going to learn from that, 437 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: like if they're happy with it, if they're not happy 438 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: with it, if they want to change their what they're 439 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: doing or recreate. 440 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: Something that they did. 441 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: None of us ever do that, and Michael Patrick doesn't 442 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: really want us to be doing that. 443 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: Also, we don't have time to. 444 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Do that, oh no, because it takes a lot of 445 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: time to roll things back and then rewatch them. Sometimes 446 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: the director Michael Patrick or Julie or Cynthia or whoever 447 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: it is, might need to watch something back to make 448 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: sure we did something correctly, like if we're moving the 449 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: camera correctly or some technical thing. 450 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: So sometimes they'll watch it back. But if I ever 451 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: hear my. 452 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Voice coming from video village, I run the other way. 453 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm so scared. A good actor, Yeah, I don't want 454 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: to see that. I don't want to see that. 455 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: But I did work with a director, Robert Rodriguez, where 456 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: he has these huge digital monitors, like kind of a 457 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: wall of them, and he would bring you over as 458 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: an actor and be like, let's watch it together and 459 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: be like no, no, You'd be like, let's watch it. 460 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: Together and be like, oh, I have to. 461 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: You'd be like I want you to watch it together, 462 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, Robert, So you had to watch 463 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: it very stress. 464 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: It's very like people. People like it, people hate it. 465 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, people. 466 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: I mean we were talking about this, like whether or 467 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: not you actually watch the final product too. It's a 468 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: very it's a very personal thing for every actor because 469 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: you don't want your performances to be about the final 470 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: product obviously, but also like you want to celebrate like 471 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 3: what you guys have all made together. 472 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: And like for me coming onto the show and like. 473 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: Not really knowing who Lily quite was at that moment, 474 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: I had to watch everything in season one. God it 475 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: was really painful, but like you know, like I needed 476 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: to learn more of Lily and also like to understand, 477 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: you hear a note from a director, you do take 478 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: a certain way, and like you don't always know like 479 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: why right right, And once you watch it later on 480 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: you can kind of understand, Oh, that's what they've got 481 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: cooking for her, or oh that's why he that's something 482 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: that he. 483 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: Keeps asking me or she keeps asking me to lean into. 484 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: So then now now maybe I won't watch myself. 485 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Right I do. 486 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I feel like there's different times in my career that 487 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: I felt different ways about it, and different jobs that 488 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I felt different ways about it, and for for and 489 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: just like that. Part of why I want to watch 490 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: is because I want to see what everyone else was doing, 491 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: because we're not always with everybody else, right, Yeah, we're 492 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: so sad. I want yeah, yeah, you want to see 493 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Sorita and you know that there's stuff that Nichole's in 494 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: that I'm not in, and I want to see it. 495 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: But sometimes it is hard to watch yourself. It really is. 496 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: It really is. I feel you on that. 497 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: Let's go back to you. 498 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: So we come, we come on the show and in 499 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: the beginning when it when we were first coming on 500 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: the air, and I mean this was right after COVID. 501 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Also like when we first started the show, we were 502 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: just getting out of COVID where people could work again, 503 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: and we were I think all felt so lucky to 504 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: be working. 505 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I know for. 506 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: Those of us who have been doing this job forever, 507 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: we were just so thankful to be able to make 508 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a new show, to come back together. And then when 509 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: it came on the air, we were so nervous about 510 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: what everyone would say, and of course people have. 511 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: A lot of things to say. 512 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: You know, how was that experience for you? 513 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so you know that I am like really 514 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: less on social media at this point, right, which I 515 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: think has been like good for my brain, good for 516 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: my brain. But also I feel sad about some of 517 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: the connections that I have like missed because it is 518 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: like such a thing to celebrate being a part of 519 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: a show like this. 520 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 4: But I mean, I think that like the reactions. 521 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: I don't really care as much why unless I feel like, 522 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's something where I feel like, oh, 523 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 3: that's something that we could work on. 524 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Later on, you know. 525 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, I that's not very. 526 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: Specifically, no, but that's it's well put, it's basically saying, 527 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: you know that it's not necessarily healthy for you to 528 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: be on to all the chatter because there's a lot 529 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: of opinions out there. 530 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I did feel as though like people, especially 531 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: right after the first season, honestly, like I didn't feel 532 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: like people were giving everyone a chance to be a 533 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: different version of themselves, right. 534 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: I think that's true, and I do kind of understand now. 535 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: I have to say, at the time, I just knew 536 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do, right, so my eye was 537 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: on that, like what our mission was. Yeah, But now 538 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: that I'm rewatching the show for the podcast, I have 539 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: a lot greater understanding of kind of what we've asked 540 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: of the audience over this time. 541 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a long time, right. 542 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: And so for people who grew up with us the 543 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: first time, or we're our age and coming along whatever 544 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: it was, or newer people who are just seeing it, 545 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, our characters have gone quite a distance. Yeah, 546 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: and you know, we killed the character that some people loved, 547 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: some people didn't, some people did. 548 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we really have asked so. 549 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: Much of our audience, and I'm so grateful that we 550 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: even get the chance, right, Like, it's so crazy that 551 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: we even get to do the show. 552 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: It is. 553 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: This feels like, I mean, it's unheard of exactly. So 554 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 3: I just try to I'm trying to think of like there's. 555 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: No there isn't no, especially if you count the movies. 556 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: These guys are just like everything all of my goodness, 557 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: I know. 558 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: But it's never easy. 559 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael and Sarah had to go pitch the 560 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: show like to HBO, like, you know, please, can we 561 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: explain the show to you? 562 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: This is what we want to do. 563 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: It's like whatever those who want to do. But I 564 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: feel like the world. 565 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: I agree, give it to them. 566 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: I agree, give it. Let me say this. Let me 567 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: say this. Kasey Bloyce, who runs HBO, who we've known forever. 568 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: To him, you know, we are a much much beloved entity. 569 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: So he really needed to know what is the new mission? 570 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Is there a new mission? How are we going to 571 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: push the envelope in this day and age? Right, So 572 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: he had some really really valid questions because he cares 573 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: so much. So it wasn't like, well, you guys have 574 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: to prove yourself. It was more just like what do 575 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: you want to do creatively? What is the creative idea? 576 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: And in that way, he's totally right, you know. 577 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, it's just like that's meeting already about production. 578 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Yet I'm with you, Kathy, all right? Are you a Charlotte? 579 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: I really think I am? No, Okay, so I didn't 580 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: think this before. Actually, I'm I mean, okay, there's but 581 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: the core, this desire of hers to like build a 582 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: family and take care of people is something that I've 583 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: always wanted to do. 584 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 4: I've like looked forward to that, and like. 585 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: There is something exciting about watching like a woman who 586 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: cares about that very traditional value who isn't really that 587 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: traditional in the end. Yeah, yeah, and just like she's 588 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 3: just so yeah, So I at least I aspire to 589 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: that kind of Oh I. 590 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: Think you absolutely are. 591 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew you there elements you know, I've come on, 592 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 3: I'm in New Yorker, so like I also now at 593 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: least and. 594 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: I am a working woman in this field. 595 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: So like, I feel like there's elements of me that 596 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: I've just pulled from each of these characters at this point. 597 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, that like core, hm, that's in me. 598 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. Yay. Kathy's a Charlotte. We cast her well, yeah, Charlotte, 599 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: you're you. 600 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: Are. 601 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: You're sometimes trying to pretend like you aren't, but you 602 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: really are. 603 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 604 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: Okay, good. This is going to conclude the first half. 605 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: Of our time with Kathy, and now we are going 606 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: to come back and we are going to rewatch a 607 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: really excellent episode called The Freak Show. Please come back, everybody, 608 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.