1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: I am your host, Tatum Everett from the Vikings Entertainment Network. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: The Purple are gearing up for a. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Huge NFC North showdown against the Chicago Bears this Sunday 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: at us Bank Stadium. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: The Vikings come in at four and. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: Five, looking to bounce back after a tough loss to Baltimore, 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: while the Bears are riding high at six and three 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams leading a string of late game heroics. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: We've got a great lineup for you on this show. 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: ESPN's Courty Cronin checks in to chat about the Bears, 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: who have been four and one since the bye. 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Plus, we have Eric Nordquist. 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: From nine to noon to give us a Roubs perspective 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: into Sunday's divisional game. We'll dive into key matchups and 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: all the storylines heading into Sunday's Mattenee matchup, bringing us 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: in on this lovely Thursday. Although we record this on 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: a Tuesday, it is Eric Nordquist from nine to noon. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: I like to preface these with that because it's it 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: is so. 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Hard sometimes to really focus on the game ahead when 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: we are sitting here recording on a Tuesday. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Do you find that a more difficult? 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: You mean, like we're still reeling a little bit on 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: a Tuesday, right, a little bit. Wow, everything that happened 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: against the Ravens game was within reach. But it is 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: theater of the mind though, because there are those out there, 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: wonderful listeners of the fan. 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: It's a Thursday for you. 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: So I'm going to say, happy Thursday. 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it? All those beautiful weekend here? 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Well, now that we're entering week eleven and I have 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: only played two division games, So as much as maybe 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: the four and five record isn't pretty. 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: They're not out. No, you're not, because you could still 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: win all these divisional games. 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Get the birth right, So like that's the positivity optimistic 38 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: outlook right then and there. But when you think about 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: this Bears team that we've only faced, what ten weeks ago, 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: it feels like they have had a shift and identity 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: the more that they have played. How have you seen 42 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: that play out? 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Well, not necessarily as much as shift, but an evolution 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: and the creation of an identity where Ben Johnson, you know, 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: what are you going to get week one out of 46 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: your team? First chance leading the team? What are you 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: know behind the scenes. He talked about tearing Caleb Williams 48 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: down to the studs and trying to rebuild him after 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: his rookie year last year with a different coach and 50 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: ebra flus. How much can you really take from Week 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: one in terms of the QB you saw on Caleb 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: Williams different, the running attack that you you know it was. 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: It was fine at times, they got swift down to space, 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: but overall really not very effective against the Purple Week one. 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: The only game that they lost to the Ravens was 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: the one game in which they weren't able to really 57 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: get things going on the ground. So the Bears we'll 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: see on Sunday are different than the Bears we saw 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: week one. But I think in the spirit of what 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson wants to do, it's still going to come 61 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: down to some similar principles where if you can limit 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: the run, talked about that a lot this year. But 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: then then in terms of Caleb Williams, the playmaking ability, 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: second chance opportunities, He's making fewer mistakes, the play actions 65 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: working better, and they're finding some aggression through the air 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: with some explosives. This is a different team than what 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: we saw. It's also a team. I think specifically from 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: a yards perspective, I'm excited to see JJ McCarthy get 69 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: up and down the field nicely on Sunday against these Bears. 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: What did you make of Jalen Naylor's emergens in this game? 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: And can you how confident could you be at this 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: point to feel like the Vikings have may have found 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: their wide receiver number three? 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think I think Jalen Naylor in some 75 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: ways it shouldn't be a new revelation, at least in 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: the regard where I think when when Jordan Addison a 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: year ago was out for a game, may have been 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: like Week two. Let's just say he was out the 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: Niners game. I forget there was one or two games 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: there early on where Addison missed. Naylor started the season 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: off with a touchdown in three straight games to begin 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: the season, and it felt like the season turned for 83 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: him with the Lambeau muff on the punt and in 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: that game late first half, teams up like twenty eight nothing, 85 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: it got way more interesting than it should have been 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: and Vikings get out with the victory. 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: So we dig that. 88 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: But then he just kind of he kind of disappeared, 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: and so you know, I think with JJ McCarthy, you 90 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: see whether it's the Ravens game. I mean, how about 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: how about seven total catches for Addison and Jefferson this 92 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: last Sunday on twenty three targets. Meanwhile, right out of 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: the gates, how about Naylor? And and that's that's a 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: play by the way where the kid QB who's made 95 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: some mistakes, also does some cool things where he identifies 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: coverage sees he's going to have that opportunity Addison with 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: the legal yet kind of if you pick play to 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: get one one v one on Naylor and then you 99 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: just have to have the beautiful, gorgeous fade ball that 100 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: you saw that we would be lauding the Mahomes and 101 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: the josh Allens of the world for seeing the same 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: pass we saw that from JJ. And then he makes 103 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: the play Naylor does after the catch to to make 104 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: you know, a thirty yard catch sixty two. So you 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: dig that, Yeah, I mean I think he he right now. 106 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: And speaking of cricket sounders, in lieu of TJ. Hawkinson 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: being productive in this offense, the third best option for 108 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy absolutely is Jalen Naylor, a guy that the 109 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: coach is lauded, you know, and again he's he's not 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: lighting up the statue, but he's running the routes. I 111 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: would bet Jalen Naylor's probably been missed on three four 112 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: five touchdowns this year just by being in a just 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: a high end route runner, consistent production coverage being drawn 114 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: to number eighteen and number three, and Naylor's been that 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: guy and it was cool to see him have that 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: jump out game. Love it. Man, what a roller coaster this? 117 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 118 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, Marto. 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It's Bears week, so that means we 143 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: get the pleasure of having ESPN's Courtney Cronin on our channels. 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: Courtney obviously used to cover the Vikings man now and 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: you cannot miss her on ESPN. She'll be covering the 146 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Vikings Bears game at us Bank Stadium for ESPN NFL 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: countdown on Sunday, Courtney, wonderful to say you're excited to 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: come back to Minnesota. 149 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: Anytime I get to go back to Minnesota, which was 150 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: home for so long, and to play a game indoors 151 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: where I don't have to stand outside early in the 152 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: morning and freeze, I will sign up for that ten 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: out of ten. 154 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing I'm sure you missed a 155 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: little bit about this place. But speaking of the Bears, 156 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: who have been really turned their season around, they only 157 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: have one loss in the last seven games. What's really 158 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 2: led to their success in recent weeks. 159 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: Well, I think Vikings fans can resonate with this because 160 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: they remember all those one score games their team was 161 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: in back in twenty twenty two, and this sort of 162 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: has a little feel like that here in Chicago. Given 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: the way that the Bengals game went, and then this 164 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: last weekend against the New York Giants, and of course 165 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: Washington in Week six and the Raiders before that, there's 166 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: been a little bit of this like heart palpitation sort 167 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: of thing that the Bears have given their fans over 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. Given that they're now a 169 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 4: six and three team and they've gotten by on the skit, 170 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 4: by the skin of their teeth on a couple of 171 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 4: these games, and certainly the key to that has been 172 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams putting this team in position with four fourth 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: quarter game winning drives this season, tied for the most 174 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 4: in the NFL currently. But beyond that, like big picture wise, 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: this team is winning games that it would have lost 176 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: a year ago, and players have admitted that. Ben Johnson 177 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: has said just as much too, that you learn how 178 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: to win like you you learn how to shrink the 179 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: margins when you can close the gap on teams that 180 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: you might have let hang around far too long in 181 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: a game, that you didn't put away when you had 182 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: an opportunity to when you let penalties come into play, 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: when you let teams back in games the way they 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: did two weeks ago in Cincinnati. But being on the 185 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: winning end of those, you're not going to apologize for wins. 186 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: Certainly they wish that they could, you know, and hopefully 187 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: for that their sake, to be able to carry this 188 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: thing forward, to be able to win games far sooner 189 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: than the final two minutes. But they've shown that they 190 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: can pull it off, and so far it's worked and 191 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: has them sitting tied for first place in the division. 192 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how how much of that is the 193 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson effect? 194 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 4: I think that's a big part of it, And there 195 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: seems to be a different level of coaching acumen and 196 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: decision making when it comes to late game situations. And 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: the play that I like to point out comes from 198 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: Cincinnati two weeks ago. It's not just that the defense 199 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: gives up two touchdowns in a forty nine second stretch 200 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: and then Caleb Williams goes and hits Cold Loveland for 201 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: that fifty eight yard touchdown. To me, it's the plays 202 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: beyond that. In the final sequence for the Cincinnati Bengals, 203 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, who has a bum shoulder, is getting ready 204 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: to launch a hail Mary pass, and unlike the hail 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: Mary of last year, that torpedo the Bear season, they 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: rush the pass or this time they send for they pressure, 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: they're aggressive, they're on the attack. That to me, is 208 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: emblematic of what this coaching staff is bringing to these 209 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: games and bringing to their players that their players are 210 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: then taking into games. It's a competency thing that I 211 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: think boils down to the very nitty gritty level from 212 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: play to play, where they've got coaches that trust their players, 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: but players who also know that their coaches are going 214 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: to put them in a better situation than we would 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: have seen last year at this time, and that has 216 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: carried over to the belief that they have in each other, 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: the belief that this locker room has. That you've got 218 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: a quarterback who has a switch he can flip in 219 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: the two minute mode, whether it's at the end of 220 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: the first half end of the second half. He has 221 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: the second high QBR in the NFL right now two 222 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: minutes or less either half. So clearly they've got the 223 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: right people in place right now to be able to 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: be sitting at six and three. But I also know 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: that they talk about the fact that nothing is clean 226 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: enough just yet. You got to put together like they 227 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: have not played a full complimentary football game this year, 228 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: and that still remains to be seen how and when 229 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: they will do that. 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is does feel like some of the Vikings games. 231 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: When you speak about this team, some of the Vikings 232 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: teams from twenty twenty two and even some of those 233 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: games last year, very very familiar, And someone who's very 234 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: familiar with this Bears offense is Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores, 235 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: who said today that Caleb Williams thrives in these late 236 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: game situations. Now, how have you seen that play out? 237 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: He's right, he does thrive. And I know that Caleb 238 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 4: made this remark a couple of weeks ago that his 239 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: heart great actually drops in those moments, So I just 240 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 4: figured I was like, let me ask him about this. 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 4: Do you measure your heart right? He's like, well, no, 242 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 4: it's not like he's wearing an Apple watch, but it's 243 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: more of a feeling where I actually do think like 244 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: in more pressure packed moments he performs better. And maybe 245 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: it's because of a processing he doesn't have to process 246 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: as much. Maybe it's just seaball get ball sort of 247 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: thing for the receivers in that moment, and it feels 248 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: like the game, like I don't want to use the 249 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: cliche term, slows down for him, but it feels simpler 250 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: because it's a do or die situation. And really, the 251 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: last two weeks we've seen him get this team in 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: position with his legs to go win games. Like that 253 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: fifty eight yard touchdown pass to Colston Loveland does not 254 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: happen in Cincinnati unless he converts that critical third down 255 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: with his legs. Last week, the twenty nine yard scramble, 256 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: which was the longest of his career, sets up the 257 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: two yard touchdown pass to get the Bears back in 258 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, and then the go ahead scores 259 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: him running in a seventeen yard touchdown. So we know 260 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: that he can make plays out of structure and he 261 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: can make throws on the run. That's his bread and butter. 262 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: That's what one in a Heisman Trophy at US. But 263 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: I think him tapping into his legs as a weapon, 264 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: Like I talked to Dj Moore, bearside receiver about this 265 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: on Sunday and he said, I feel like he's got 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: the green light more because he's seeing defenses playing two 267 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 4: man quarters man to man. It's giving him more running 268 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: lanes to be able to attack a team that he 269 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: might not have shown on tape at previous points of 270 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: his career. 271 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: He's twenty plus games into his career as a starter 272 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: by now, and a lot of talk is made about, 273 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, working quarterbacks coming in they need that time 274 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: to develop. You've watched this process play out for Caleb. 275 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: How do you think the process is going to play 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: out or what are you seeing from the process with 277 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy now four games in and really just finding 278 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: that consistency. 279 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: I think for JJ it's different just because it's been 280 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: stop start with injuries and he you know, he has 281 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: a great game here in Chicago in Week one, and 282 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: then the setback happens against Atlanta week two, and then 283 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: he's out, he misses a significant amount of time and 284 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: then to get back on the field. You know, for Caleb, 285 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 4: he's had a clean bill of health, which I know 286 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: is not a guarantee by any stretch in the NFL, 287 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: and that has helped him stay consistent out there because 288 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: he's not missing time. We know that Kevin O'Connell has 289 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: done a really solid job throughout his career of developing 290 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: different types of quarterbacks, older, established veteran in quarterbacks, younger 291 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: quarterbacks who you know, have shown that they have the 292 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: capability but haven't put all of that potential together yet. 293 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: So I still think that. 294 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: The you know. 295 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: What he's doing with JJ McCarthy, it's you get an 296 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: incomplete grade on it right now because there's just not 297 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: a big enough sample size to see the development in action. 298 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: I think that JJ had some good moments against the 299 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, and that win, But then what happened against 300 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens and the two interceptions that he threw 301 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: early and some of the off target passes. Those are 302 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: things that you work through as a young quarterback. And 303 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: when you have a play caller who is so who 304 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: was dedicated to your development, will you were the guy 305 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: that he chose, there's going to be that different level 306 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: of emphasis on I'm going to help sure or I'm 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: going to help make sure that you get it right. 308 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we saw it here with Caleb Williams. Ben 309 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: Johnson looked at Caleb the day he was hired in 310 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: the audience and said, I came here because of you, 311 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: but it's going to take more than just you to 312 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: make this thing work, which I think is the case 313 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: for any young quarterback. But it's unique to see around 314 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: the league right now the play callers and these second 315 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: year qbs, the six of whom were drafted in the 316 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: first round. Bonix has already had proof of concept because 317 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: he got this team to the playoffs last year. He's 318 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: had a quieter couple of games. Their offense is kind 319 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: of in a rut, but I saw it up close 320 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: when I was on the call for Eagles Broncos back 321 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: in Week six, like there is a belief from play 322 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: caller to quarterback to go win the game in critical moments. 323 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: We're starting to see it here with Ben Johnson and 324 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. We are seeing it in New England with 325 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels and Drake May. I think with time you'll 326 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: see that more with Kevin O'Connell and JJ McCarthy. But 327 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: you know, you have to have that level of consistency 328 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: of consistent games in which the quarterback is able to 329 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: be out there and playing in order to know if 330 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: it's working. 331 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even though it's a small sample size, 332 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: he has played the Bears before, which is kind of 333 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: ironic for him moving forward, and that was a very 334 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: different game. And obviously Week one you almost have to 335 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: like wipe the slate clean now that we're heading into 336 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: what week eleven, and so as you go into this game, Courtney, 337 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: what is like one of the major storylines you are 338 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: now following heading in. 339 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: It's so interesting anytime the Bears played Brian Flores, and 340 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: particularly Caleb Williams, because I remember his first game last 341 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: year was at Week twelve at Soldier Field when they 342 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: played week twelve or week thirteen when they played the Vikings, 343 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: he was anticipating, you know, Flora's sending every blitz he's 344 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: ever drawn up in his entire coaching career at him, 345 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: and he called him king of Cover zero and he is. 346 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: But then it's like there's this perception out there that 347 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: obviously carried into this season. Week one and twenty six 348 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 4: of his dropbacks, Caleb Williams face like standard for man pressure. 349 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: So it's I think that that's so fascinating the chess 350 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: match here where somebody in his emo of being an 351 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: aggressive dial it up, send the kitchen sinkatchew sort of 352 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: defensive play caller versus I might these might be simulated pressures, 353 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: it might look like a blitz, it's not. That's the 354 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: cat and mouse game that I think was. It really 355 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 4: does test an offensive coordinator in a play caller. And 356 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: so for Ben Johnson, he said it reminds him of, 357 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: you know, early on in his career when he was 358 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: with the Dolphins and they played the New England Patriots 359 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: as often as they did twice a year because they 360 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: were in division. Because flow comes from that system when 361 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: a team can change its identity week to week and 362 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: what they're going to do that makes it so challenging, 363 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: And certainly Flora's defenses have done that throughout his time 364 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: in Minnesota, throughout his time in Miami as well. Like 365 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: he he can make it really tricky. So I'm very 366 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: curious to see how differently, now that this is their 367 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: second time playing the Bears this year, how differently that 368 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: game plan will look from Week one, Because you obviously 369 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: have to account for Harrison Smith wasn't playing week one, 370 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gernard his status, his availability with the shoulder injury. 371 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: We don't know if you might have your best edge rusher. 372 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of cool things that 373 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: come into play about what the defensive game plan could 374 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: look like for the Vikings against this Bears offense, which 375 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: you know is a cool part of the chess match 376 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 4: that we really won't get to see until it starts 377 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: to unfold on Sunday. 378 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: It's a very fair evaluation. I think. When I was 379 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: speaking to Blake Cashman after the Lions game, he was 380 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: talking about how they were focused on reverse psychology, Like 381 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: we know that Jared Goff plays us and knows what 382 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: to expect with this, and so we're going to do 383 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: the exact opposite, but make you still think we're doing that. 384 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: And so it's all about that chess match, which of course. 385 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see. 386 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: But before I let you get going, I just want 387 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: to ask you, since you also just look at the 388 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: league for me from a bird's eye view as well. 389 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: The NFC North is again one of the stronger divisions. 390 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: There are several teams going up and down the leader 391 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: board in that division. How do you evaluate where this 392 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: NFC North is? You know, halfway through the year? 393 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I mean that game on Monday night in 394 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 4: Green Bay was it's not gonna be one. It's a 395 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: burn the tape game of how ugly that one looked. 396 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: But it's November in a cold weather part of the country. 397 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: Those games are going to happen. And to see Green 398 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 4: Bay lose. I remember going into last week thinking there 399 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: could be some significant jockeying of positioning based on some 400 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: of the games, obviously Vikings Ravens and where the Bears 401 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: were playing the Giants and getting the win, and you 402 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: know what Detroit did against a Washington team that doesn't 403 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: have its starting quarterback. Like to see the shift take place, 404 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: to see Detroit and the Bears with identical records. Obviously, 405 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: Detroit currently has the tiebreaker because you know, if it 406 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: ended today, they have the one win over Chicago. And 407 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: then to see where the Vikings and the Packers are, like, 408 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: I tell people like, just you know, don't don't expect 409 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: it to stay this way. I think it remains like 410 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: a very competitive division division. I think that the NFC 411 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: West is certainly taking the cake on that this year. 412 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: They're in my pick for the division that gets three 413 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: in like the NFC Nor did last year. But I 414 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: still think in order to get into the postseason for 415 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: any of these teams, a division winner and for the 416 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: wildcard spot, I think it does take double digit wins 417 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: in this division. And you know, a team like the Bears, 418 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: they've got the Vikings coming up, They've got Green Bay twice, 419 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: they've got the Lions the end of the season, you know, 420 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: to start in an O two hole, whereas the Vikings 421 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: are on the opposite side of that with a couple 422 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: early division wins. It's this is about as critical of 423 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: a game as it could possibly be in a week's 424 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: eleven scenario for a team that has to show we 425 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 4: can beat the teams that you might call the you 426 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 4: know a different categor slorry the bad teams in the 427 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: NFL go beat a good team and do it in 428 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: their place and gain some ground in what's a competitive 429 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: division just about every year. 430 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: Awesome. 431 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Courtney, and we appreciate you 432 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: making your media rounds here with Minnesota Today. 433 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday. 434 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 435 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: A big thank you to Courtney Cronin again. 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