WEBVTT - REPLAY* Confronting Both Sides of The Gun 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:05.960 What's up. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.600 Family, it's your girl to Mika D. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.280 Mallory and it's your boy, my son the General. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.120 And we're your host of street politicians, the place and Holst. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.400 We've got our. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:23.840 Good old orange T shirts on today which represent Gun 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:25.479 Violence Awareness Month. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.280 This is the first week of gv. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.760 A M, which is a time in New York City 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:38.400 where anti violence organizations, advocates, partners, families, people who've been 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.560 impacted on either side of a gun, the shooter and 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:48.040 or the victim all come together to focus on UH, 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:54.120 the anti violence movement, to bring attention, awareness, and support 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.560 to the movement, UH, and really to just to put 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.800 some some attention on the fact that there are models 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.000 that work, and in New York City, we have a 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.759 model which we've you know, we'll be talking much more 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.680 about called the Crisis Management System. And we know that 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:17.120 over many years, the number of violent crimes and violent 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.080 incidents have been reduced by the work of so many folks. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.000 You all will see and hear the footage of the 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:33.600 press conference that happened today where hundreds of anti violence activists, experts, organizers. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.280 We're at City Hall with the city officials, city council members, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.000 and other government officials and of course the Mayor of 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:48.720 New York City, and you know, standing there announcing some 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.600 important things that we'll talk about later on the show. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.160 We have been doing this for a long time, and 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:03.160 history is going to show that the first crisis management 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.880 funding came from an idea I had in the State 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:15.280 Senate called snug gun spelled backwards first, allocation of money first, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.840 and it has moved into the movement you see behind us. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.400 And so when people believe that folks of. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:29.880 Color want to normalize gun violence in their community, they 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:30.720 are wrong. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:32.040 They are wrong. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.760 This is a real issue that we want to attack 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.320 head on. But what we don't want to do is 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:47.040 minimize the complete picture that must be addressed. By the 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.960 time a person picks up a gun, we've already failed. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.840 We've already failed. Now I said this over and over again. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.800 There are many rivers that feed the sea of violence, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.040 and it's time to damn every river, not just one 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:04.519 with law enforcement. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.679 Damning every river is what we're going to do. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.880 The epidemic of gun violence is not a New York problem. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:19.800 It's not a Democrat Republican problem. Tulsa is a red state. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.519 The shooting that took place there was a red state. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.720 An announcement came over just a few minutes ago of 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:34.080 a sixteen year old attempting to recruit others in Berkeley 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.400 to go in and shoot up a school. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.000 Every day we're hearing about this. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:45.120 It's breaking our hearts, breaking our bodies, and breaking our communities. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:50.800 When a bullet hits the target, the physical bullet stops, 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.400 but the emotional trauma rips apart the anatomy of our 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:56.480 entire community. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.320 And there have been more mass shootings. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.480 Think about this for a moment, more mass shootings in 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:08.880 America than days of the years. Some unbelievable. And we've 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.080 normalized it. We say it's okay, and I think we 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.520 often dismiss it because the victim of handguns violence, for 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.719 the most part are black and brown, and then the 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.720 inner cities all across America. So we've normalized it and 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.000 stated that that is just the way it has to be. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.360 And we're saying today, your damn right is not going 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:29.120 to be that way. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.200 We can turn it around and make it happen. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.600 And yes, instead of gu n s, let me give 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.320 you another four letters. How about jobs. Let's get our 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.680 children jobs. Let's put them on a pathway of employment. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.679 That's why we have one hundred thousand sem of youth jobs, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.560 first time in the city history. Thank you Jomini Williams 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.320 for pushing this for years. That is why we're pushing 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.920 the tail corporate America. We want a one hundred percent 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:01.160 paid internship program throughout the school year leading into our 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.800 fosdy care children to give them the support they need 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.440 so they don't age out at twenty one, give them 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.640 mentors until their twenty six. All of these things are 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.480 gonna help us deal with this issue in a real way. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:13.880 Time to take our. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.360 City upstream and build real partnership with people who are 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.440 tired as I am, of pulling people out of the 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:21.480 river downstream. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:22.839 This is our moment. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.880 You do not elect me to do what everyone has 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.800 done in the past. You wanted a different outcomes and 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.680 you picked a different mayor. And trust me, it's a 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:40.320 lot of noise out there. Everybody's gonna critique us. Everybody's 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.120 gonna start telling them, why didn't you pick this one, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:47.159 Why don't you pick that? Because I'm the mayor and 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.320 we're gonna make the decisions now to save our children 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.719 with the level of urgency that we deserve. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.120 Today, what you see behind us is not just the 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.880 government may to happen, because to be clean, we were 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.720 told no every time that we asked for resources. When 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.080 we first started, we met with the mayor at the 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.880 time and he looked Erica Ford and not dead in 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.760 the face and said, there is no proof that what 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.520 you're trying to do will work. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.400 But we proved it. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.000 They sent us back. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.960 They told us to get data. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.600 And all that Erica has mentioned in terms of how 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.280 many days, weeks, years, months went by without shootings in 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:36.080 this city, we did that together. Now, once the pandemic came, 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.720 it changed a lot for everybody. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.120 So stop trying to act like. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.600 In media who you are here, if you have any 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.359 moral conscious, tell the true story. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:53.120 Violence is up everywhere. In fact, in nineteen. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:57.400 Sixty three, Malcolm X got in big trouble for saying 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.200 something that we see today but is that the chickens 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.640 are coming home to ruths. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:04.840 As we see. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:10.040 Shootings happening across this nation, shootings of all types, mass. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:14.400 Shootings, violence everywhere. Remember that this. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.600 Group we told you, we told. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:18.320 You what would happen. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.960 We gave you the forecast of what would happen to 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.080 this nation. If we did not deal with mental health, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.920 if we did not deal with the lack of jobs 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:33.400 and resources, if we did not address food, deserts and 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.320 other concerning issues in our community. We already told you 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.240 that today would come, and so if we are to 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:46.040 go forward and this nation is to be better, this 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.240 group is an example of what must come together in 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.760 order to address those concerns. The police force cannot do 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.040 it alone. If they could have, CMS would have never 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:58.680 been needed. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.400 The government cannot do it alone. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.360 Half the time, they can't figure out from one side 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:06.640 to the other what to do. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:08.880 It takes all of us. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.520 But the main thing is that the people must. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:13.360 Be centered here. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.960 Your title is your title. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.840 I'm a part of a very robust group of advocates 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.880 that I'm very proud to be a member of, and 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.680 a lot of us know each other respectfully. But thank 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.680 you to Mayor Adams for naming me to be the 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:39.400 gun violence Prevention Czar in New York City. A new title. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:46.480 It's the first ever, and it should be. As he mentioned, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.480 we should want some things that are different. We've been 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.360 dealing with this issue for far too long, and we've 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.880 been using the same tactics over and over again, and 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.320 we've been getting the same results. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.920 So no one should have a problem. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:05.840 With us trying something different, right, give us a chance 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.920 to prove our self work. We are the people who 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.680 are closest to the problem, right, so quite naturally we 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.720 have the answers to those problems. There's nobody that wants 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.600 gun violence to in more than the young people that 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.960 come from the neighborhoods and the people who live in 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:28.480 this community every single day. And so this is a 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:33.599 community driven approach. When you hear about the state or 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:34.560 the FEDS and. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.920 Now the city, now include the community. That's the fourth 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:39.959 leg of the chair. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:47.760 That you're sitting on, MARCHA. The community that we represent. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.000 Can create. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.400 As you heard mentioned that this podium solutions for themselves, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.880 and we're going to work hand and sync with that 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.400 community to make sure that we deliver the things that 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.960 they say that they need, the things that they said 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.319 that they want, and these men and women behind me 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.719 are trained to deliver those resources into. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.320 Those neighborhoods where other people cannot go. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.400 You know, I'm proud because I was one of the first, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.559 very very few. There was three of us who were 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.199 the main leaders, and no more than maybe six to 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.160 seven in the room at any given time. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.240 Who put the crisis management system together? 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.200 Architect artist. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.320 We were the architects of this movement. Erika Ford was 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.960 really the brainchild. She threw all of her thoughts on 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.559 the board. And Richard gup Glover, who at the time 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.400 I think was at Columbia, I think he was at Columbia, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.000 he was a professor. He worked to help organize her thoughts. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.040 We did the advocacy work, our brother at Mitchell and myself. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.560 We worked together with Erica pulling it and putting it 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:03.320 and focusing and holding it to make the crisis management 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.160 system a real thing. And here we are over a 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.880 decade late later, you know, and the christ and the 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.680 Gun Violence Awareness Month came along later where we decided 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.960 that we had to have a month that really every 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.679 single day there'll be educational opportunities and other moments for 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.960 people to get together. So I was happy to be 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.040 in the hot sun today with all our brothers and sisters. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.400 Yeah, I was definitely happy to be there. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.920 Our brother at as you mentioned he was he was 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.640 announced to be the bizarre of gun Violence and Prevention 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.680 from New York, So that was a big thing. You know, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.839 just he's somebody that I think his mannerisms, the way 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.000 they carries itself, you know, it's it's just somebody that 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.800 I look up to that called for advice a lot, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.720 and he's been a mentor, you know, he's been doing 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.600 this work longer, way longer than I have, and he's 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.920 and he also respects my leadership at a lot of times, 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.440 and we just have a beautiful relationship. So seeing him, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.800 you know, pointing to this position, knowing that it's in 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:12.319 the right hands. He's somebody who definitely takes this work serious, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.080 sleep and wakes up with this work, who calls me, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.160 you know, and whenever something is going on, it's like 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.120 what are we going to do? Like that's this is 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.480 what we need to do. He comes up with strategy. So, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.440 you know, I was happy to see that. And then 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.680 there was a plethora of other individuals that I've known 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.480 throughout the years through different channels, some just being in 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.480 the streets, some from hip hop, some from just different channels, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.440 and just seeing that they've invested their lives in this 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.560 work and I've seen them really transition with something good 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.280 to see. And just our family, you know, we've been 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.120 doing this work for so long. All of our friends 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.360 and family was out there in the sweltering heat. You know, 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.520 some march all the way across the bridge. We didn't 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.440 make it to the full bridge march. But I also 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.679 see the young kids that I worked with at Van 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:02.800 Sickla Middle School. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.480 They were there at the march we put together. They 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.640 actually put together it's dope. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.280 Anti gun violence song that they allowed me to feature 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.680 on that we're actually gonna be shooting a video for 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.520 in the next couple of days. So that's something I, 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.080 you know, was happy to see. And the principal, principal 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.679 camp was there. You know, they have a beautiful program 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:33.000 in which Wednesdays is like career day everywhere you able to. 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.880 Every Wednesday for the first two hours on first two 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:44.440 periods you go to either music program, video program, any 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.320 kind of program that you want to do and you 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.400 want to invest your time. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.520 And they take the first two periods of every Wednesday, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.080 and then there's an after school component till where you 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.960 can go to after school. But these people have the 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.240 state of the art studio. I'll tell you their studio 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.640 is better than the studio that I work. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.360 Like, they had a food, the kids got a great 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:07.520 studio today. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.480 Studio in that school, it was just amazing. I've been like, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.960 I've seen different music rooms and they have a little 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.880 mic here and there set up, but this is a 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.440 full fledged studio. So shout out to in Sickly Middle 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.120 School and principal camp who who really invests in those children, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.560 Like you can see and you can see the investment 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.480 playing off because they're happy to be there. You know, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.360 they're happy to come. They really are enthused. They're doing 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.440 something they like. They're not just learning in this mundane setting, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.479 you know, to where it's boring and looking at the chalkboard. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.080 They're doing something that they like to do. So shout 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.320 out to them. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:48.920 Yeah, that's great. I mean, you know, the evolution, if you. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.160 Will, of. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.560 Different entities within education and. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.920 Community and government and what have you beginning to know 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.680 that there has to be a different way to educate 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.680 our children, a different way to bring our young people 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.440 along and help them be successful. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.400 That's that's happening. But it's slow. It's a slut drip, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:15.840 but happening. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.880 Like you said, a career day every single week. That's 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.440 very different because in the past it's just once a year. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.960 Right, career day is not just them talking about careers, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:33.360 showing courses and classes to where it's just creativity, it's music, 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:39.280 it's arts, is cooking and hands on, hands on and 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.280 you just in that for two periods of the day, 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:43.680 for the beginning of the day. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.280 You start your day off with something that you like 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:46.640 to do. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.520 You're not just going into a classroom and listen, and 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.840 you start in your day of doing the activity that 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.840 you've chosen that you want to be a part of, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.440 and you're learning and your creating and it's just dope. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.040 But that's great. It's great. It's great. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.920 So there's a lot out of when we're talking about youth, 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.160 we're talking about violence, we're talking about you know, getting 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:12.320 ourselves organized, and there's a lot of really really dangerous 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.880 and serious things happening where I think. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.320 We It's probably one of the reasons. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.480 Why the evolution is such a slow drip, because it's 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.720 like you're moving forward and there are people who are 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.160 pushing to change the culture and to you know, really 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:38.840 sort of I really want to be intentional about my point. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.600 There are people who are really fighting to get the 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:49.160 government to come out of its old and sort of 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:55.760 archaic ways of thinking about educating youth about dealing with 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.479 mental health and other issues. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:16:58.800 Right. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.480 You know, you are one of. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.960 Those people that constantly talks about how no one can 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.200 just sit you down for two hours and just talk 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.040 to you. Want back and forth about your issues. To 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.399 help you with your needs. You need people from a 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.359 therapeutic perspective, Yes, you could sit down and talk to 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.359 them sometimes, but also that they may be able to 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.080 come into your world, see what you're doing, work with 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.399 you from a very hands on perspective. Now, maybe the 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.240 fact that we're now in our forties we can sit 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:34.679 still a little bit different. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:39.280 But certainly a young child will not be able to learn. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.440 The same way that other communities learn. We know that 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.720 and to be you know, to receive therapeutic services and 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.399 other things in those ways. And so with that being said, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.200 there are folks who are sort of pushing to change 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:58.119 the culture. But when you have such traumatic events like 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.080 what we see happening across this country going on, it 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.000 takes us back. So even if you go forward, you 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:10.520 go back because people get afraid, people get you know, traumatized. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:11.959 It's a lot. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.080 You've got four people killed, he had just you know, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:21.000 in the last four to twenty four hours. Obviously, we're 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.640 taping this show, so when people hear it, it will 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.080 be a week old. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.560 And that's a thing that it's a week old. By 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.400 the time, you know. 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.280 Several days passes, we're like, well, that happened a week ago. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.800 Buffalo shooting happened. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.000 You know now, I don't know, probably fifteen sixteen days ago. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.880 It's not a long time, but in media time, the 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.720 cycle just keeps changing. 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.200 Four people shot in a medical center. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.960 Then you have the police doing what police do, shooting 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.439 an unarmed black woman who was suspected to be in 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.679 a stolen car. She was with a guy, allegedly the 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.880 guy I ran and the woman when they told her 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.439 to get on the ground, trit to explain that she 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.720 was pregnant and that she could not lay down, and 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.800 the police shot her multiple times. She wasn't in a pocket, 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.800 she wasn't None of the witnesses have said she grabbed 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.400 for anything or did anything that should have caused her 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.880 to be shot as a pregnant woman. But again, police 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.480 will be police, and so that happened. And then you 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:32.920 have a situation where other governments are catching on quicker 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.440 than us because in a place like Canada, they are 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.600 banning or at least they are new regulations that will 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.560 ban the sale of purchases for certain types. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.400 Of handguns, right or maybe all handguns. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.159 So people are like, yo, we're seeing what's going on 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.240 in America, and we're not gonna sit by and allow 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.040 our nation to be riddled with the same types of 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.600 watunate traumas. 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.160 I don't know what the hell they're doing in Washington, 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:04.480 d C. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.600 We ultimately have no choice but to fight for and 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:11.200 fin for ourselves. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.000 Actually, you know. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.280 And and now I'm hearing that there's going to be 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.200 legislation passed in New York City. 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.960 Will be an open cab state. I mean New York state. 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:23.480 I apologize New York State. 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.280 That seven worse like when we when we look and 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.080 see that gun violence is up, and then we're gonna 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.520 make it more easy to access guns. I don't even 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.960 understand how we don't realize that's a recipe for disaster. 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:35.760 You know. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.920 The reality of situation is everybody shouldn't have a gun, 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.679 you know, And that's what the problem is. Obviously, the 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.720 guns are getting into the hands of people who shouldn't 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.440 have guns. When you look at these mass shootings. These 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:52.919 aren't you know, cultable, you know culpable ready, you know 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.359 informed people, it would have packed the background check and 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.800 should be able to have guns. So when we understand 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.639 that something is not working, why do we continue to 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:08.159 exacerbate the mistake. It doesn't really make sense to me. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.760 You know, New York is on fire with gun ViOS. 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.320 People who don't are getting illegal So now you're gonna 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.800 make it a lot easier for somebody who shouldn't have 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:17.480 a gun to get it. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:23.640 I just don't understand the logic. Just don't. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.640 We don't need people on the trains in New York 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.680 that are already suffering. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.760 From like all types of traumas. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.639 I don't even know what it's called. That's going to 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:35.560 go on the train. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.119 People fucked up people. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:45.560 People, and they buy a gun. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.000 People fucked up out here, Jack. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.800 And the thing is you we look at our police, 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.880 who supposedly are trained to deal with situations, and they 0:21:58.920 --> 0:21:59.720 say they fear for. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.280 Their life and they make mistakes and they shoot. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.240 So you gonna give guns to people who got nothing 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:09.520 near what the police got and hope that in situations 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.520 such as road rage when somebody cuts you off and 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.640 they get out and they got a gun name blowing 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:15.000 your head. 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.119 You see, we literally seen sick people. 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.280 Driving on a highway and shoot a cause because they arguing. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:27.000 So yeah, but I mean your point is so valid, 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.040 my son, because when you think of the fact that 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:35.879 young kids sat in the classroom for over an hour, 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:42.520 some shot, some almost dying, others who I've been told 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:47.080 was shot a second time because there was so much 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:55.320 room for additional horror, you know, sat there for over 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:55.720 and out. 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.280 And now, I mean, I don't even know. 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:04.240 How you talk about kids, babies who for one second, 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.199 if your baby is lost from you in a crowd 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.960 for one second, it can turn into a complete meltdown 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.560 and break down for a child. So imagine people bloody, 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:23.600 you know, big boom, sounds of shots going off, and 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.840 there was no help. So these police officers who stood, 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.200 they said at least nineteen officers were in the hallway 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:37.320